Evan Ratliff: Our Future with Voice Agents

Episode 139
I spoke with Evan Ratliff about:
* Shell Game (open.substack.com/pub/shellgame), Evan’s new podcast, where he creates an AI voice clone of himself and sets it loose.
* The end of the Longform Podcast and his thoughts on the state of journalism.
Enjoy!
Evan is an award-winning investigative journalist, bestselling author, podcast host, and entrepreneur. He’s the author of the The Mastermind: A True Story of Murder, Empire, and a New Kind of Crime Lord; the writer and host of the hit podcasts Shell Game and Persona: The French Deception; and the cofounder of The Atavist Magazine, Pop-Up Magazine, and the Longform Podcast. As a writer, he’s a two-time National Magazine Award finalist. As an editor and producer, he’s a two-time Emmy nominee and National Magazine Award winner.
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Outline:
* () Intro
* () Evan’s ambitious and risky projects
* () Wearing different personas as a journalist
* () Boundaries and acceptability in using voice agents
* () Impacts on other people
* () “The kids these days” — how will new technologies impact younger people?
* () Evan’s approach to children’s technology use
* () Techno-solutionism and improvements in medicine, childcare
* () Evan’s perspective on simulations of people
* () On motivations for building tech startups
* () Evan’s outlook for Shell Game’s impact and motivations for his work
* () How Evan decided to write for a career
* () How voice agents might impact our conversations
* () Evan’s experience with Longform and podcasting
* () Perspectives on doing good interviews
* () Mimicking and inspiration, developing style
* () Writers and their motivations, the state of longform journalism
* () The internet and writing
* () On the ending of Longform
* () Outro
Links:
* Evan’s homepage (cazart.net) and Twitter (x.com/ev_rat)
* Shell Game (shellgame.co), Evan’s new podcast
* Longform Podcast (longform.org/podcast)

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