4th and South - T.O. DISRESPECTS Mike Evans, Jets’ Garrett Wilson SNAPS, Jonathan Taylor OUT? | NFL Week 7 REACTION

0:00 Wah!

0:01 Listen, listen.

0:01 I'm going to tell you this.

0:03 My boy Jarvis came with the Harley Davidson jacket. My boy looking right.

0:07 I had to pop out on him.

0:09 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Shades. Who made the shades?

0:14 That's Gucci, baby. That's Gucci, baby.

0:17 All the way on fourth and south. That's Gucci, baby. You know, come on here with the Gucci shades. Mm-hmm. The Harley jacket. And he feeling good. And I'm feeling good.

0:25 You feel me?

0:26 No complaints. Listen, everybody know I am a 49ers fan. But today, the boys went down.

0:37 And that's the thing.

0:38 I expected that. Why? Deebo hurt. CMC went out. LaMichael hurt. They have the offensive weapons. So I can't be mad. But just know this.

0:52 Just know this.

0:53 We are coming. We're about to go into a bye week. We about to get healthy.

0:58 And we about to go on the run.

1:00 I know if y'all had signed T.O., y'all would have had a chance.

1:04 Listen, hold on. I'm so glad you brought that up because I was waiting until the last.

1:09 Unc would have been ready.

1:10 Now, Unc, man to man, when LaMichael's hurt, do you think you would have came in and replaced him doing the things he is doing right now at your age right now?

1:22 Let's be real. Let's not be right.

1:24 Let's be real. Oh, you tripping, bro.

1:29 But let's say this. Let's say T.O. still take care of his body, right? Let's say, obviously, he got the height. He probably got a little speed. I'm not going to say he's going to be the fastest person on the field. That shit probably the slowest out there. But, you know, Mike Evans is not a blazer either. Does he have a case?

1:48 No, he does not. He don't have a case.

1:51 Hall of Fame T.O.

1:52 Bro.

1:55 That's like saying Coach Prime coming out there and checking.

1:57 Somebody right now. With the five, four toes he got. And guess what? I talk to Coach, Coach my man. But we not about to do that, dog.

2:10 Yeah.

2:10 You talking about these young boys. Bro, these young boys are moving.

2:14 Yeah. Yeah.

2:16 Jarvis, even you know, the game has changed even when you was playing.

2:19 No, for sure. The routes changed. Man, it's too much, bro.

2:24 But that's his thing, though. His thing is that Mike Evans don't run crispy routes. That he can come off the couch at a, what? I think he's like 50 years old or 52 years old. Let me see how old he is. But he's saying he can come off the couch and essentially just do what Mike Evans is doing. He's saying what Mike Evans is doing is not oppressive.

2:44 I'm saying this, though. Them boys out there hitting.

2:49 Stay on the couch. He's 52. He's 52. He's 52. Stay on the couch. Don't come in that world.

2:58 Man, that man going to put a couple of them steroid shots in his knee. What you call that? A cortisone shots in his knee, in his shoulder, in his hips.

3:06 Shit going to break down mid-play.

3:09 So you don't think T.O. can give you red zone and third down at his age?

3:17 Nah, bro.

3:19 I don't know, bro. I don't know. I feel like if his hand's still there, bro, with his height in the red zone, he a threat, especially with what the San Francisco 49ers do with packages, personnels.

3:33 You know what I mean? Right, right.

3:35 You can't tell me that if you give T.O. 10 balls, he ain't going to catch at least five.

3:43 I can tell you this. The 49ers can't win without Mike, and they damn sure can't. They damn sure ain't going to win with Teal. So I don't know what the difference is. Yeah.

3:57 Well, they needed one of the other one of them today, bro, because it looked bad, bro. Like Brock Purdy didn't look, you know, he didn't look like he had his spurts there, you know, looking like the MVP. But he also, bro, they had four turnovers, bro. And I don't care how good you are as a football team. Like when you turn the ball over four times, like you're beatable. Of course.

4:19 And Atlanta, they look like they play with fire. I don't know what Kevin Stefanski had been telling them boys over there for the last couple weeks.

4:27 I don't know.

4:27 They'd be keeping them out of Magic City or Chocolate City or whatever. I don't know what's been going on, but the Atlanta Falcons, they're right in the ship. You know what I mean? And it was an ugly loss. I'm going to say that.

4:40 It was. It was. It was. And also, they had costly turnovers, as we know. But with this ugly loss, we still playoff bound.

4:49 100%.

4:51 Just got to get healthy. I've been a 49ers fan since I was a little boy. Listen, I've been a 49ers fan. I've never been the same friend in my life. My grandpa, my daddy got me hooked on that shit. So that shit's in my blood. Damn.

5:05 Yo, you weren't the same fan growing up? Just naturally?

5:07 Bro, listen. Them people had trash bags over their heads. Why would I want to do that? Why would I want to be a part of that bullshit?

5:17 No, I feel you. So you just went to the other coast.

5:19 Yes.

5:21 Say fucking went to the other coast.

5:23 I didn't know better, right? All right, but listen.

5:26 We need a kumbaya right now.

5:29 We need some encouraging words from my brother, Trevon Diggs, bro. What happened? I ain't seen him since the Jersey issue with Mike. Damn.

5:45 What do you mean?

5:47 Where he at?

5:49 Let me see.

5:50 He ain't been playing the same. I don't know what's going on.

5:52 Let me see.

5:54 All I'm saying is the big game tonight, they play against KC.

5:59 You got this.

6:01 It looks like he was.

6:07 Cut, maybe. No, I don't think he was cut.

6:10 You don't think he was cut? Let me see.

6:11 No, I don't think he was cut. But I'm going to say this. He going to come back strong, bro. Right. Matter of fact, no, no, he was cut.

6:23 Was he cut?

6:23 He was cut. Damn. Yeah.

6:27 No, no, he's still on their roster as of today. I'm looking at something. He got him third. But nevertheless, oh, he's on practice squad. Okay. So they brought him back. They cut him and brought him back on pass, which probably was a roster move.

6:45 Yeah.

6:45 You know what I'm saying?

6:46 But, I mean, listen.

6:48 When he was in Dallas, he was doing his thing, bro. Obviously, when you get hurt and you get injured, it's so tough to come back from things and be yourself. And people have this expectation for you. You have an expectation for yourself. I know I've been hurt before and I've had an expectation for myself to come back and be even better than I was. And sometimes that's just not the reality of it all.

7:09 Right.

7:09 You know, but at the same time, what he does have is he has experience. He's made plays in his league. You know what I mean? What people and teams and his teammates and himself can rely on is those experiences. And if I was a GM or a coach, you can't you can't. I always want the guy with experience. I don't I don't always need the young and energetic new kid. I need the guy with experience. Somebody had been there before that. Somebody had been fourth and one.

7:38 Somebody that I could put on an island by himself. You know, and I hope that comes back to him. Because he's a great player, man. But injuries has taken the best of us away from this game, bro.

7:51 100%. My brother, shake back. Do your thing. You got our sport here on 4th and South, man.

7:58 And yeah, and don't let somebody play with you like that. Next time Mike play, Mike in the same division, so you're going to see him again.

8:05 You feel me?

8:05 Next time somebody play with you, bro, you got to Yeah.

8:08 Back the piss out of that. Michael, my brother, y'all going to be out there banging. I'm like, no, you put your hands on him. You're going to put them back on you. So be ready. Be ready.

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9:37 I believe that. I believe that. If y'all didn't listen to me last week when I could have got you some easy free money, listen to me this week. Take the Cowboys. Jalen Hurst, not taking the field. We're still praying for you, my brother. Saquon Barkley, I believe, is still out. Devontae Smith is out there, but he ain't got nobody to throw him the damn ball. So it's not going to matter. Take the Cowboys. As bad as the Cowboys has been, as underwhelming as the Cowboys and underachieving, the Cowboys, as much as the Cowboys are underachieved this year, they definitely pulling out this divisional game versus the Philadelphia Eagles.

10:18 So listen, you heard it here first. You heard it here first. I'm the man to make the legend mouth. Jarvis Landry.

10:24 Y'all want y'all money? I'm just telling y'all.

10:27 Cowboys.

10:30 I used to love, bro. Speaking of Mike, bro, I used to love when the Saints played Tampa and him and Marshawn Lattimore used to get into.

10:39 It all the time, bro.

10:40 That's personal. Them boys were real life brawling on the field, bro.

10:46 Like Mike Lokey from the city.

10:48 Mike Lokey from the city.

10:49 Yeah, we need that.

10:50 We need that.

10:51 We need more excitement like that in the NFL. So listen, all this swapping jerseys at the end of the day, nah, nah, nah, nah.

10:57 We gonna bang.

11:00 We gonna fight to the death in this game. After the game, I don't know what's gonna happen. But in between these whistles, man, I'm trying to take you out, man. Yeah.

11:11 I used to never trade my jerseys with people after the game. If you want my jersey, I'll send it to you at the locker room, especially if we lost. Yeah. I ain't come and shake no hands. I ain't come and send no love. Like, I'm out of here. And if you want my jersey, I get that shit to you in the off season, my guy.

11:26 Look, bro, I promise you, one game, bro, I was supposed to give my mama my game jersey. We lost to the Jets. We went my first year at Jacksonville. In 2017, we went to New Jersey and lost to the Jets. Mama, I'll send this bitch to you when I can. Right now, I got to get back on this plane. and reevaluate how we lost to these dudes.

11:50 You hear me?

11:51 Moms, I love you, I'ma send it to you. She probably was coming back to my crib after the game anyway, so just put it in my bag. But you know, like after a loss, I don't got time to be playing and all that. You hear me? Like, you know, your first year in the league, especially when you used to win it, man, you wearing your feelings all right here.

12:09 They all on here. Man, yes, yes. So I don't know how it is now. But listen, bruh, y'all need to take that losing shit serious. I see a lot of people be smiling after the game, the camera be on y'all from above, y'all dabbing at y'all. Nah, nah. I'm going to see y'all again. That's what I was on. I'm going to see y'all again.

12:25 Facts. Who's your favorite jersey that you.

12:29 Got? I got a Tom Brady Patriot jersey and Tampa jersey. I got Michael Thompson, Michael Thomas. I have Tyron. I have Pat Peay. I have Jamal.

12:45 What's your favorite one out of all of them? If you had one. I know you can't put it, but I'm just saying for the sake of, you know. I'm going to say probably my favorite one.

12:56 Yeah. It has to be Tyrants because we both from the same hood. Yeah. Same high school. Went to the same college. You know, we kind of was superstars in college. Them boys. Neighborhood superstars. So I got to say it's me and Tee. Yeah, 100%.

13:12 Was it an Arizona one?

13:13 Arizona. Arizona.

13:14 Oh, the original. 32?

13:16 Yeah, 32. Oh, that 32 was stank, though.

13:19 I ain't going to lie. But he had it popping. He had it popping.

13:24 What yours was?

13:25 Mine was Drew Brees, bro.

13:27 Drew gave you a jersey?

13:28 Yes, bro. Autograph, sign, to me. Got the juice, man. I love you. Wish I could have threw it to you.

13:35 Like, perfect.

13:38 Drew Brees was like, you know.

13:39 You know, being out that city... Being from Louisiana, that means something.

13:43 Bro, it meant everything. I mean, like, you know, I watch. I was in New Orleans when they won the Super Bowl.

13:48 Yeah.

13:49 And in Miami. They was in Miami when they won the Super Bowl. I was in New Orleans, still in high school. And I remember.

13:55 We had a week off. We had a week off of school.

13:57 Bro, I'm like, bro, Drew, you don't even know what you did for your boy, bro. You was looking out before you even knew you were looking out.

14:06 When the Saints won, y'all, when the Saints won, we had a week.

14:09 Off from school.

14:10 Hell yeah, bro.

14:12 Now, what the hell a Super Bowl got to do with us learning our education?

14:16 That shit was crazy.

14:17 I'm not going to lie. Everything.

14:19 That's why Ms. Benson mad as hell right now. Ms. Benson tired of talking. If I knew a Louisiana woman like I knew a Louisiana woman, bro, Ms. Benson tired of talking. And Aaron Rodgers showed up as the piggy blindness tonight. Today in Paris.

14:36 And Ben.

14:37 Listen, was that fire or was that flop, though?

14:39 You know what I'm saying? Listen, for those who at home who don't know what Peaky Blinders are, it's fire, but can I tell you this, Mr. A-Rod? Wrong country. The shit was in England. I don't know what the hell that was thinking about. The cosplay, I love it, but wrong city, wrong scenery. I don't know.

15:02 Who taught y'all that shit?

15:03 Who told y'all to do that?

15:04 But y'all was absolutely wrong, my brother.

15:06 Yeah, dog. Listen, at least they got the dub to go behind it. You feel me? Like if they don't get the, if they show up cosplaying in the wrong city and lose.

15:14 Boy, listen, my city hot right now. Bruh.

15:17 No, no, no.

15:19 I ain't talking about, I'm talking about the fans. The fans, the fans travel out there to see y'all lose like that. Listen, my partner Corey with the kid, he's a big comic from New Orleans. That man told her, my man, my man said.

15:32 Brother, don't even come on the plane. Y'all stay out there.

15:37 Boy, the city is on fire with the Saints right now.

15:41 Bro, what you think is going on? Like, what's the problem over there? Like, you know, after the game, they talk about the run game not being there. But we watched them, what, last week play a good game against the Giants and figure it out, find a way to win. The defense played great. And then today, you know, they lose, what, 16 to 10.

16:00 But that's the thing, though, Jarvis, right? I'd be mad too if I was a Saints fan because guess what? We losing close games week in and week out. Jarvis, as a player, you know how aggravating that is. Yeah. And I can only imagine from the fans spending their hard-earned money going to the Saints play and they coming up short. Please, God, build my city because y'all know in certain cities, y'all know when y'all start losing, the crime rate go up. Yeah. So, listen, everybody back home, I love y'all. Please, bruh. Yeah.

16:43 Be safe out there. Be safe out there, bruh. Protect each other, you hear me?

16:47 Please do, because guess what? We all know when the Saints winning, everybody's happy. Right. The people on the sidewalk not giving no tickets.

16:56 Nope.

16:57 The homeless somehow finding homes. Bruh. Please don't start that drama now, though. I love y'all too much, bro.

17:07 For sure. Man, look, I don't know. Ms. Benson's tired of it, though, bro. It's time for some changes down there. You know what I'm saying? Because I just think that as much as I believe in this Kellen Moore, you know, we gave Tyler Shuck his props a couple weeks ago.

17:24 Yeah.

17:25 And he must be listening to the show and got an airhead from it.

17:29 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:31 So, you know, hopefully they can figure it out, bro. I feel like they always got some shit going on that they never just could figure. Like, I can't figure out why they're so bad. They got good players. Like, Chris Olave is a good receiver.

17:47 He is.

17:48 Juwan Johnson is a great– is one of the best tight ends in the league. Yeah. Evan Kamara is riding your bench. Not riding the bench, but Evan Kamara is not even your leading guy. Travis Etienne– It's not even doing what we brought him here to do. I know he's been hurt and this and that, but, you know, young defense. But, I mean, how many more years are the New Orleans Saints going to be in the rebuilding stage?

18:13 And I think that's what Ms. Benson frustrated with. She see that.

18:16 You know, Ms.

18:17 Benson been around New Orleans for a long time.

18:19 100%. Guess what?

18:21 Looking fancy in her Chanel, looking fancy in her Gucci, Fendi.

18:26 Yeah.

18:27 We not mad with that.

18:28 No, at all.

18:29 When I was in New Orleans, Ms. Benson showed up in a whole Chanel suit out of the back of a Maybach.

18:35 Different money. It's a different money.

18:39 Chanel earrings. She walked in Chanel and said, let me get that mannequin right there.

18:46 The earrings.

18:48 I want all.

18:49 I want all.

18:50 Bro, I'm telling you. Head to toe.

18:54 Head to toe. Let's stay in the division, right? Shout out to my Buccaneers beating the Panthers today. 43-13. And guess what? Ty Bowles just saved his job. And right now the Bucs could win a division. Yeah.

19:14 The Bucs could win the division.

19:15 Listen, this division is so crazy because we went 8-9 one year and we still won a division. Right. So it's like I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

19:29 I say this, right?

19:33 To you, does dropping 43 points on the Panthers get them out of the hot seat? Yes or no?

19:39 No, a win period gets them out of the hot seat. They haven't been winning. So by them winning, that does good for Todd Bowles and his team, obviously getting Baker Mayfield back on the field. that was huge, even though he didn't throw for much today, but he's still dealing with an injury.

19:56 But no, no, no, that is a weird stat, though.

19:58 Right, that's a very weird stat. 64 passing yards? That's going to change. I believe that's going to change. They did what they needed to do to win. I think Baker, in his presence... It means something. What tells me that Tampa Bay could really do this and tie balls, man, you might be the luckiest guy in NFL football right now because they're 1-0 in the division. Everybody else in the division has lost a divisional game. So everything is looking up for Tampa if they can find a way to turn it around. And like you say, going eight and nine and winning the division, at least you make the playoffs. You make the playoffs, you got a right at your seat the next year. To me, to me, what do you feel? You feel like if they make

20:40 the playoffs, he's still staying his.

20:42 Job, right? Well, I would say this. By me playing under Coach Bowles, right, I'm not quite sure how he deals with pressure. He's a different coach. He's not rah-rah. He'll say a few words, but he's very quiet, right? He goes off here and there, but it's quite hard to say those offers. You know? He kind of... You know, he's a black belt, obviously.

21:07 What does that mean?

21:08 So, I don't... I don't know how the black belt affects his mind mentally.

21:16 Like a karate black belt?

21:17 Yeah, he's a karate black belt. He is a karate black belt.

21:21 No way.

21:22 So, maybe his.

21:23 From the mental standpoint, he goes toward the jujitsu way. I'm not sure. So he's a different guy when it comes to.

21:32 Be water.

21:39 He's a different guy when it comes to his emotions. He gets pissed off here and there, but it's not too crazy how it was with B.A. But I don't want to go too long. Shout out to the Bucks. What are they, 2-5 now?

21:53 Yeah, the Bucs now are 2-5.

21:58 Ugly-ass record. Right.

21:59 The Carolina Panthers are 3-3, and the Atlanta Falcons won today. They're 3-4, but the Atlanta Falcons are 1-1 in division. The Saints are 0-1, and Carolina is 1-1 in division, and Tampa Bay is 1-0. So they've been good with that. Yeah, man, they're good with that. I would say this, too. Tampa Bay has lost all their home games. Yeah, they've won two road games, but lost all of their home games. So, you know, they got to figure that out. If you want to be if you want to beat anybody, if you want to make it to the playoffs, you got to be able to win at home. You know, winning on the road means everything, you know, and based on their schedule and probably if they do make the playoffs, how are you going to be positioned in the playoffs?

22:47 They're going to have to probably play on the road the whole time. But shit, you win a division, you know, you might, Rose might, you know, you might get a game home or two, you know. So, you know, they're on the right track, man. Shout out to Todd Bowles, man. Baker Mayfield, welcome back, my guy. It was good to see you out there, you know, with the one glove like Michael Jackson. You know what I'm saying? I know them numbers going to go up, my boy. I ain't even weird. Bucky Irvin, keep doing your thing, man.

23:11 Salute Bucky. Salute to my young boy Bucky doing his thing out there with the KDs on his feet.

23:15 Hey, he got that seven rolling. I ain't going to lie.

23:19 Listen, bro, I'm telling y'all. Mark my words.

23:23 It's something about guys winning seven, bro. Myself, Michael Vick, Brian Leftwich when he was in college, Ronaldo. I'm telling y'all. This shit going on.

23:35 Nah, he doing his thing, bro.

23:37 Oh, I can't forget Melo. Come on now. Camelo, you know what I'm saying? Camelo, you remember that 7-0?

23:43 You know what I'm saying?

23:45 100%.

23:45 He going 4.7 yards per carry right now, 120 carries in the season, close to 600 yards, five touchdowns.

23:52 Let's do it. Let's do it. Man, the Giants and Texas was out there banging.

23:58 Yeah.

23:59 And J.J. McCarver is going to be QB1 from here on out. I'm telling y'all, we told y'all last week. That job in New York is up for grabs. Yes, Jason Dart is him. Jackson Dart is who he is. But guess what? When you not playing up the part, everybody's job is on the line. Yeah, yeah.

24:21 No, he like, J.J. McCarthy is a remixed Jackson Dart. Like, he like a remixed version of, because at the same time, you still getting the vanilla ice. The vanilla swag, right? He still got the arm. He still got the passion. He got the mobility. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, that's something that their team needed. Like, they wasn't getting that with Jameis. No offense to Jameis. Jameis is, again, man, his career was a good one. And his career is not over. He's going to be a backup. He's going to be a good player and a good leader to be on any team that is lucky to have a Jameis Winston.

25:02 But.

25:03 you know, the Giants trying to win right now. What I will say is, I love that Harbaugh said what he said in the media and did what he did to Scadaboo, because Scadaboo came out that big running like a juggernaut. Man, bro, he truck old boy. I didn't know if he was knocked out or dead.

25:22 Listen, can we talk about that?

25:26 Listen, let's talk about it.

25:28 Can we talk about that? They called Unnecessary roughness. Ruffs, do y'all want him to just run and get hit? At some point, we got to protect ourselves too.

25:45 That was football.

25:46 What the hell? Like, we have to protect ourselves. What y'all calling that for?

25:52 That was football.

25:53 And I promise you, if I was playing today's game, I'd be playing free for four, five weeks. Right. Because I'm dropping that hat. I'm going to protect myself no matter what. You've been trained and taught that since a little kid. Yeah. Yeah. So, when y'all replay and look at this game, I pray to God y'all do the right thing. Yeah. Let that man keep his money.

26:20 Yeah. Nah, that was football, bro. Like, him... When I saw that play, all I could think about is he. Bobby Boucher, when he was putting other people's faces on other people's heads to get mad, to run harder, he put John Harbaugh's face on that safety and ran through that shit. I'm like, yo. And then when they call a flag, I'm thinking to myself, this game has gotten too soft. I get protecting defenseless players. Defenseless players? Damn, my tongue twisted. Defense, damn, defenseless players? Defenseless players?

27:04 Right, right, right.

27:06 But, but, oh, but he came down like he was going to do the job.

27:11 He came down like a missile. So guess what? You don't know what to do.

27:15 But look, look, look, look. I can say this. Scatterball, running backs, whatever message Harbaugh gave y'all last week, that shit got y'all going. Hey, hey, hey. Whatever the message was, y'all made it clear. Yeah.

27:31 I don't give a.

27:32 Damn about Derrick Henry or Saquon Barkley. Right. Right? And then, it's not only that, to score the winning touchdown in overtime, y'all grouped up together as a unit like, coach, yeah.

27:46 Like, coach, this what it is.

27:49 Let the four become one.

27:51 Man, listen, I love that.

27:53 I love that shit.

27:54 I ain't gonna lie.

27:55 Hey, has Nachi Harris got picked up yet, by the way?

27:57 I don't think so.

27:58 Damn, he's looking like the bad guy right now. I ain't going to lie.

28:01 Yeah. Don't you hate that, though?

28:03 I do hate that.

28:04 Don't. Listen, bro.

28:05 He didn't trust the prospect. Damn, bro. He didn't trust the prospect.

28:16 I want y'all to understand this. Sometimes in the NFL, you can end on your terms or on their terms. Right now, it's looking like on their terms for him right now. So, let's hope.

28:28 Damn, bro.

28:29 He prove him wrong, get picked up and do his thing. But right now, it look like he was the problem.

28:35 Man, it did, bro. And listen, I watched this Houston team play over the last few weeks. And Houston, their record don't reflect how good they actually are. Houston is a good-ass football team.

28:46 100%.

28:48 So for the Giants to bounce back after coming back on the Saints last week, to bounce back like this and go to Houston and get a dub on the road, And the running backs do what they did, bro. Like, Harbaugh, to me, is the coach of the year. I don't care what nobody say.

29:04 All right. Yeah.

29:06 Again, I'm a fan of Cleveland. We going to talk about Cleveland later in the show, right? Todd Munkin and what he doing is amazing, right? But Todd Munkin inherited a team in a way, right? They picked up some draft picks here and there with Boston Kid and KC Concepcion. But John Harbaugh went and built a little team. He brought Isaiah Likely over. I was going to say he brought my guy in, but then he brought the running back Singletary, all these guys together, and they found a way to put the defense together. pieces together.

29:41 You know what I mean?

29:42 So I think it's a tight race, but right now, man, I'm a big hardball fan and what he's doing with the Giants. It's definitely tight between him and Todd Monken out in Cleveland, but for them to go get a win like that, not even convincingly, but it was a hard-nosed win. It was a hard-nosed win. overtime finish, the running backs did what they did, and the message was heard loud and clear in the running back room.

30:05 Listen, we got a segment for the running backs. You got my back, I got your back. Right now, I got y'all back. Appreciate y'all boys, man. 100%. 100%. Listen, the Colts lose to the Vikings. Another close game. 10-6. Jonathan Taylor needs to get out Indy and me and his wife agree on But we agreeing on 4th and South.

30:30 She agreeing on Instagram. The Colts are 2 and 5. Should they trade my boy right now? Should they trade JT? But before I get into that, JT, tell wifey, keep in-house business in-house.

30:50 But you don't believe that sometimes you got to do your own bidding?

30:53 Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

30:55 You don't think so?

30:57 Not my wife, at least. I do my own bidding.

31:04 Right.

31:05 I wouldn't, my wife, I don't want my wife no parts of what I got going on. Because guess what? This game we play is already hard enough.

31:13 Right.

31:14 So you know how the GMs are.

31:15 They talk. Nah, man, his wife, you know, his woman talks too much. Nobody ain't going to deal with that job. But you know how this shit go. Yeah.

31:25 Wifey, don't put a target.

31:26 On my boy.

31:27 You know what I'm saying? He's an elite back.

31:31 Well, there was rumors that he was... I think there was rumors that he was on the trade block before the trade deadline, maybe last year, and then now this year again with the team not being in the right position to win games at 2-5. So, rightfully so, Jonathan Taylor is still one of the best running backs in the NFL. 100%.

31:50 Hands down.

31:50 He's top five. Hands down.

31:52 Right?

31:53 But at the same time, you know, When it come that close to home, that mean there's some conversations going on in the background. And whether she was right or wrong, I'm not going to say she was right. I'm not going to say she was wrong, but whether she was right or wrong, I think that there is something to really be said for Indianapolis as an organization and Jonathan Taylor as a player. to get on the same page.

32:22 We saw this with Miles Garrett in Cleveland. Where, you know what? This is the best time to get rid of one of our best players to help restart our organization. And now look at Cleveland, Cleveland five and two.

32:34 But damn it, Wifey, you're wrong. Wifey, you're wrong, Wifey.

32:40 Hey, like you always tell me, when you're right, I'm going to tell.

32:44 You you're right. But when you're wrong, I'm going to tell you you're wrong.

32:49 Hold on, so what you saying right now? I'm not going to say she right or wrong. I think, I think, you know, I've seen players. I've seen other people do this in the media.

32:59 Wait, before we go, have you seen any one of the greats wives come out and do this? Um, no, no, no, no.

33:11 They've done it other ways. They've done it through publicists. They've done it.

33:14 That's fine. That's fine.

33:16 They've done it through platforms like ours, but not on ours. I'm not saying ours, but they've done it through platforms.

33:22 Yeah, these spaces. Correct. But she came from the direct effect.

33:27 She looked like she was sitting on the porch too, like stressed out, smoking a cigarette or something.

33:31 So I'm going to say this, right? It was me and my wife knows. Leave the football shit to me. We got enough shit going on with these chairs. Right. But this is my career.

33:45 This is my life.

33:48 Your wife is a good thing for you, but not always. All the women, they don't understand the business side of this shit. This shit real. This shit get real, y'all. From politics, from blackballing, y'all better know what y'all doing.

34:03 Right, but you don't think that your wife in it with you too? You come home from having a bad game, she know damn I may as well don't even cook because the food ain't going to taste the same. May as well don't even try to give him a kiss because he ain't going to kiss me back.

34:17 May as well. You know what I'm saying?

34:19 She's going through the ebbs and flows that you're going through too because she's supporting you.

34:23 You feel me?

34:23 So imagine her seeing Jonathan Taylor come home every day. He throwing his bag on the floor, moping around the house, sad. He injured a little bit, but he's still giving it his all. She feel bad for him. All she want to see is her husband. you know, being put in the right position and not be talked about in this light?

34:42 We all going to be talked about. You've been talked about. I've been talked about.

34:45 What the hell? What makes JT's very hair been talked about? Saquon was talked about in the Giants. They was losing their ass off. And look at him now.

34:53 And then he went and get a championship.

34:54 But understand this.

34:55 Say this. Your husband gets traded and you find out at the same time as the NFL, Twitter, you say our record is two and four and we just lost to a winless Titans team. What the hell? Girl, slow down. And hence, they just probably get Chris Baller. And players that once seemed untouchable may now be on the table.

35:19 What if JT doesn't want to leave?

35:20 That's not up to JT.

35:23 But she's making it even more.

35:27 Up to the team to get rid of him now. Yes. I agree. Maybe. Maybe.

35:34 It seemed like, listen, it seemed like we got a wife that's paying attention. She ain't just a wag and just trying to show up and pop out and do her thing.

35:44 Well, we gonna do this, wifey. You got a problem, you go out there, run around, go catch the ball.

35:50 Figure this shit out.

35:53 You think they're gonna win some games then?

35:54 Never know.

35:56 Man, I don't know if they can get it fixed. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. We talked about it last week. You know what I mean? Like, Chris Ballard was one of the pieces that needed to come off the board, no doubt, right? He's the guy that's building the teams. But who's calling the shots over there right now? And who's ever calling the shots over there right now, you got to know that they gun shy specifically about getting rid of their best players. So I don't think this is a year to try to deal with a Jonathan Taylor, maybe in the offseason, but– with all of these talks.

36:30 Going on and going around.

36:32 Also, Leonard, I played on a couple of teams where we wasn't good. And at some point, you want to think about your legacy. At some point, you want to be a guy that's known for being the best player on the team and winning.

36:46 So I'm glad you said that. Were you ever a part of trade rumors?

36:54 Was I ever a part of trade rumors?

36:56 No.

36:57 Maybe one time. One time. To the Eagles when I was in Miami. To the Eagles.

37:03 So in that moment, right, being a player, because guess what? You broke records at Miami during that time in the NFL. How did that make you feel?

37:13 That shit got shut down so quickly. I'm not going to lie to you. Miami shut that down so quickly. They shut it down so quickly because When I actually had a conversation and I was talking to my agent, like, yo, what's going on? Like, we good? We straight? Like, and we was in a good team. We was just, you know, coming around and about to make the playoffs. We made the playoffs the next year. And it was a situation where I'm thinking to myself, like, shit, I just want to play football. I don't really care. You know, I'm still young in the league. So I didn't really have a idea of like how it really worked.

37:52 Right.

37:52 I just want to do my job. But Jonathan Taylor as a guy in year seven, you know, the Indy ain't really been doing nothing in the last seven years. He'd been the best player, one of the best players, if not the best player on the team. Like I'm sure there's some frustration there too. So I don't blame wifey.

38:07 You know what I'm saying? If she came out, I got, she came out in a way, you know what I'm saying?

38:11 Also, I want you to understand this though, right? When I was going through what I went through at Jacksonville, Bro, you know the coach disrespected me and said nobody wanted me?

38:21 After coming off a 1,000-yard season. He said nobody wanted you.

38:26 Nobody wanted me.

38:28 I know you didn't believe that.

38:30 But you know how it is, right? They have the power of your career in their hands. So I don't want that to happen to him. And especially to go to, and I was just blessed to get released and I went to Tampa.

38:48 Imagine he go from Indy, what's worse than Indy right now?

38:55 Tennessee Titans, the Chargers.

38:58 Thank you. Right? Situation go from worse to terrible. JT, tighten it up at home, button up a little bit, right? Until the final say so is said. Yeah.

39:12 Look at my situation. They say nobody wanted me, which was a lie.

39:17 But when you alpha male, you know, you stand up, you speak for yourself, that what happens yeah and and not by any means it's not JT fault but not saying it's gonna happen but it can so JT tell wife it chill for a minute yeah let us figure this out right now and then whatever happens happens we're.

39:37 Gonna move on from now you know the power of social media is crazy bro it is JT don't even have that type of personality at all I trained with JT for about three years and down at Adam Bully's place, System 8 here in Fort Lauderdale. And, bro, he's the quietest, most humblest person that you ever want to be around, you know? So I don't suspect that this is too much of him and frustration. I think there's more frustration from, you know, maybe his family, his wife in particular, you know, just kind of in the comments too much. You know what I'm saying? And you're right. I think it is a.

40:16 A conversation that they need to have to get it squared away about how to move forward with addressing stuff like this. Because now, you know, he got an answer to it after the games.

40:26 And guess what? Everybody in y'all business. Right. That's what I, hey, that's me and my woman. Don't tell no brother nothing. Mm-hmm. Don't say nothing. Mm-hmm. Not the world of y'all business. The owner's going to tell you they want to talk to you. The GM, the coach, they're going to want to talk to you. And guess what? All this trickles down to the family. It goes from owner, GM, coach to you, and you got to go lay the law down on the wife. And we all know when the house not happy, nobody eat. When the house not happy, nobody eat. Oh, man.

41:06 Happy wife, happy life. JT, get it right, my guy. I know you will, bro. He's a stand-up guy, man. Speaking of who can't get it right, I have told you time and time again, the Baltimore Ravens cannot win without Lamar Jackson on the football field. If Lamar Jackson is not the guy, again, I'm not disrespecting Snoop, but nobody respects this team the same way that they do when Lamar Jackson is the one that's taking the snaps.

41:38 And Baltimore, and we've seen it, they started hot. I thought there was going to be the Super Bowl champs. They're going to be competing at the AFC with Kansas City Chiefs. And then you lose a guy like Lamar Jackson. And now y'all can't get right. Mine is having one of the best defenses in the league.

42:00 Listen, not only that, one of the best running backs in the league.

42:03 They gave up 35 points today against Joe Ice.

42:07 But listen, listen, let's not– Let's not act like we don't know who they playing. Joey B. Listen. Nah, nah, nah, nah.

42:17 Damn that.

42:17 Joey B and Jamal. And Higgins. Woo. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. We gonna act like that's the first time they went crazy on Ravens.

42:29 That's true.

42:31 Jamal. How many skeletons on the Raven boys you got in your closet?

42:38 He did Marlon Dirty a couple years ago. Now Nate?

42:44 T Higgins going crazy bro 35 to 13 yeah listen I think Lamar can save this season when he comes back he comes back against.

43:00 Buffalo yeah maybe next week.

43:03 And the run starts now the playoff run that's when it starts right so should we be panicking yes.

43:10 Or no I think they should be panicking, you know, because Lamar has missed a multitude of weeks. It's not like he just missed one week, you know. And he's an MVP candidate. Obviously, he's been there before. He's played on all of these stages. But, you know, sometimes working back into the mix is tough, and it takes a week or two. And you can't lose to a team like Buffalo. You can't lose to a team like Cleveland again.

43:38 Pittsburgh is 5-2 right now. You know what I mean? Like, their division isn't laying back. The AFC North, bro, is pushing. They just dropped one to the Bengals. They 0-2 in the conference. Yeah, bro. So, you know, again, I'm not going to say it's time to.

44:01 Panic.

44:02 But if Lamar is not back next week, I don't care how– Jack, listen to me. Listen to me, Jack.

44:12 Come listen.

44:15 I know you a little bit hurt and you was close to playing this week, but this is a moment where you got to look ahead. You got to kind of see the future and foreshadow. Like if you want to be playing come January, February, my guy, this may be a little injury and I don't know the specific other injury, but this may be one that you might have to push through to get your team where they need to go. My guy, you know what I'm saying?

44:39 Like, So I'm glad you say that, right? We all know he's a scrambling quarterback. Now, what if he's out there and his ankle's not 100% and he's trying to give it all he's gotten, right? But we're not getting the same Lamar we used to see. Now, this one comes in place. Or he's not as fast as he used to be. Or he's not making the throws. But you know that this game is predicated amongst that. Me personally, I'm going to say this. You get healthy right now because, guess what, it's still early in the season. Well, we midway in the season right now. Get healthy and come back and run the tables. Don't rush.

45:20 And guess what?

45:21 If he get hurt trying to play on a nagging injury right now, it's over with. The season for the Ravens is over with.

45:28 Get healthy. Come back 100%. You know what I'm saying? Because guess what? Y'all going to have to see Cincinnati again and the Raven killer.

45:37 Huh. Jamal Chase is a raven killer off the ripper. He is a raven killer and he's killing y'all ass. And y'all need some help, which is you.

45:46 Yeah, but again, I think you're totally right. But if he tries to get healthier and miss a few more weeks, it's going to get ugly. I'd rather it look ugly. I'd rather it look ugly with our guy back there, even if he's not healthy. We can find ways and find ways to be able to, you know, not put so much on him, right? But his presence alone can change the whole landscape of how defense has to prepare for a team like the Baltimore Ravens. Right now, they're not afraid of Huntley.

46:22 Yeah.

46:23 All we have to do is stop Derrick Henry, limit Zay Flowers, and that's probably a team's game plan going into all of this. When you add a two-, three-, three-dimensional player like Lamar Jackson back to the field, 60%, 70% are not. it's a game changer for defenses to try to prepare for. If they still had Harbaugh as a coach, I would say I'd be worried about where Lamar Jackson and contracts and all this stuff is at the end of the season. But with Jesse Minter there, the new coach, you know, you want to build around a guy like Lamar Jackson and continue to grow a team, like grow this team around Lamar Jackson. So he could afford to miss more games, but I don't think he should. If he wanted to go to the playoffs this year, I

47:05 saw his face when they lost to Cleveland. When Cleveland kicked the game when they field goal, the camera didn't go to Deshaun Watson. You know where the camera went to? It went to Lamar Jackson. Because without him on that field, in pads, wearing that number eight, the Baltimore Ravens aren't the same. They aren't a playoff team. I don't care how you try to mix and cook it. It don't matter.

47:33 The Ravens cannot win without Lamar Jackson. And we've seen it week in and week out. This is like the third week we've seen it. They almost lost to Atlanta. 100%.

47:45 We're going to move on, right? I think I owe you $ 500.

47:50 Man, listen, everybody owe me. Everybody owe me. Listen, if you didn't get on Polly Market last week when I said, take Miami over the Jets, you're foolish, you're churlish. And you're wrong. You're wrong. And you need to run me my money.

48:13 Period.

48:15 I said this to you, Miami coming off a bye. I watched the Jets play the last two weeks, one against Cleveland, then double back against the Patriots. And I'm like, hmm, this is definitely a team that are well-rested, healthier Miami Dolphin team can beat. And lo and behold, Our guy, Malik Willis, steps up and get the job done. Get the job done. How you feeling, brother?

48:46 Hey, it's a great team win. A great team win. Both sides fought hard. Malik was making some big throws and some clutch downs. So, HN played? No, he hurt.

49:03 Y'all for the season.

49:04 Yeah, y'all for the season. Man, listen, especially with a guy like that, that's out and you still won? Yeah.

49:13 I think they can win at.

49:15 Least three games.

49:17 Nah, I think they don't.

49:20 You think it's the only game they're going to win?

49:22 Yeah, I think so.

49:23 Nah, bro.

49:24 I'm pulling up their schedule right now.

49:25 They can't go one. They can't go one and whatever. Nah, I don't think that. Jarvis, that's... Nah, nah.

49:31 Hey, but at some point, too, you got to tank, bro. At some point, you got to think about your future.

49:36 You know what I'm saying?

49:36 Like, you keep winning games. You sliding down the draft board. You know what I mean? Like, your team needs all the picks and high versions of them that we can get. We can't be winning games that... You know? I know the guys out there working hard, but listen, guys. Y'all going to have to hold on because... You know, we need all the first-round picks that we can get next year.

49:57 You know what I'm saying? Oh, my God.

49:59 Let me see what they got. So they came off a bye. They got Patriots.

50:04 Lost.

50:05 They have the Detroit Lions.

50:07 Possibly win.

50:08 They play the Colts in three weeks.

50:11 Possible.

50:12 That might be the win you're talking about. Then they go Buffalo.

50:16 Jets.

50:18 Win.

50:19 Denver.

50:21 Chicago. Lost. Green Bay.

50:25 Loss.

50:26 Chargers?

50:27 Win, probably.

50:31 Or maybe the Chargers are still winless at that point, and the Chargers get their first win. And then they close the season with Buffalo and the Patriots again. I look at this schedule, and I'm just thinking to myself, yeah, maybe one or two more wins, but if it's close, lose the game. Because... And I have a lot of pride as a player, but if I'm putting on my GM hat, if I'm putting on my owner hat here, like we don't need to win six games, five, six games.

51:01 Like we need to be monitoring the league. Obviously the 0 and 5 charges are a thing. So we know we don't have first pick right now. So we're in the top five of picks. But you don't want to be outside of the top 10. You miss on your franchise changers. Am I wrong on that? Or are you just like, fuck it. We winning any game we can win.

51:24 Well, from a coaching point, I'm going to say you're wrong. But if I put my GM hat on, you're absolutely right, Jarvis.

51:31 Man, I feel like you have to think about that. You know what I'm saying? Like, is Malik Willis... I know we just paid Malik Willis, but they didn't give Malik Willis QB1 money. They gave him Miami Dolphins QB1 money. But, you know, they gave him backup money. So, in a way... you need the top 10 pick being the top 10 to get your franchise quarterback.

51:53 So listen, I understand all that, but there also another take we took upon ourselves. We say this earlier, Garrett Wilson needs to get out of New York city. Immediately ASAP, you know, it's bad when QB one and why receiver one are going at it as a, as a, former wide receiver one what what did that indicate what did that tell you on the sideline what.

52:21 Was going on no that's ultimate frustration yeah like like at at that point you know the you got to either try to find a way as an offensive coordinator as a head coach with which you know we've seen Aaron Glennon thinking that he getting the ball in the second half and he not getting the ball in the second half so we've seen a coach that in some ways, have shown that he's not really paying attention to certain things.

52:46 But this is one of those things that you got to be paying attention to if you're a New York Jet. Because Garrett Wilson is a player that is not expendable. I'm taking Garrett Wilson over Geno Smith on my team any day. And I know how important a quarterback is. But, you know, I feel like for Garrett Wilson as a receiver, I think my man went through the first half without a target. And that's just something that You don't do. Like, when you're the best player on the team, you have to find a way. If it's not the offensive coordinator finding a way, it has to be the quarterback deliberately finding a way to get your guy a touch. And this has been something that we've consistently saw. And I don't blame Gary Wilson for being frustrated. You know, I'm

53:28 surprised it didn't happen sooner, if I'm honest with you. You know what I mean? And these outbursts and things will only get bigger. They will only get bigger. Especially with losses.

53:42 It's one thing.

53:42 I think Gary Wilson had three catches today.

53:45 That's embarrassing.

53:47 Bro, if I had three catches and we win, all right, cool.

53:52 Maybe, maybe.

53:54 No, it's cool. It's cool. I'm going to still chop it up with you. I still want to holler at you. All right. But we have three catches and we lost? Oh, my God. We got a problem. Bro, we got a problem. Leonard, you can't tell me if you leave a game with six carries for, let's say, you going six yards a carry, you got 56 yards, and you ain't touch the ball in the second half in the ranked game perspective, and y'all lose?

54:28 Jarvis, listen. I don't want to be the dead horse. And I bet you something similar to that. Jarvis, imagine this. A thousand-something yards, three touchdowns. Bro, when I was in Jacksonville, I rushed for over 1,000-something yards with three touchdowns.

54:51 You know how frustrated I was?

54:53 In a season?

54:55 Yes, in a season.

54:57 So they was giving the ball to somebody else in the goal line?

54:59 We couldn't fucking score, dude. We got to the goal line. We could not score. So I finished the season 1,000-something yards with three or four touchdowns.

55:13 As a running back, you know how embarrassing that is?

55:15 That's tough, bro.

55:18 Look it up. I think it was probably, look up my 2019 season.

55:20 Stats. Read it. What it say?

55:21 I think it was like 1,034 yards.

55:23 What year? 2019. 2019 stats. What is it?

55:47 Okay, hold on. Let me see. Career. My shit tripping. 2019, you had 15 games played. 15 game plays. You had 265 carries, 1,152 yards, three touchdowns.

56:12 That, listen, Jarvis, as a player, right? You think about that. Is that insane or what?

56:20 Yeah, that's insane. You at least have six, six tuds, at least.

56:30 Three, over 1,100 yards, and I had three touchdowns, y'all. So y'all, listen.

56:36 Damn, they was giving you that rock, though, bro. 265?

56:41 How many catches I had? I was getting a ball, bro.

56:43 I was all, we had our offense.

56:44 What the fuck? Damn.

56:46 And then you had another 76 catches?

56:47 What?

56:48 Bro, here. Hey, bro. You was the whole offense.

56:57 Yes, bro. Yes, yes.

56:59 You was on some CMC shit.

57:09 I've been doing it. I've been doing it. This is the difference, y'all. I've been producing that dumb numbers, except nobody cares when you're on a losing team.

57:19 That is true.

57:20 Nobody gives a damn what you do when you're on a losing team. I was averaging 70-plus catches on a losing team. Now, all of a sudden, I get to the Buccaneers. I'm averaging 70-plus catches.

57:32 Oh, he can catch.

57:33 No, motherfucker.

57:34 I bet he can catch. Y'all just didn't care.

57:37 Right.

57:37 What the hell? Nobody's paying attention.

57:41 You ain't care. Well, listen up.

57:43 Damn, bro, you had almost 1,800 yards all purpose.

57:48 Yes. Yes, I've been doing it. Listen, bro. Listen, we need a pass for a reason. I don't want to get mad, right? So, Jarvis, I'm going to ask you this because we're skipping on to the next. No, no, no.

57:56 Before we skip on to the next.

57:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:58 I will say I saw a clip of you this week. You coming out the backfield. And I texted you and I gave you your flowers because I know you've been watching. You was watching Jarvis Landry, Juice Landry tape all summer long. Because you came on that backfield and you hit that boy with that.

58:15 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

58:18 I couldn't believe it, bro. But what was.

58:20 The giggling for? Listen, man.

58:23 That's just who I am.

58:25 You don't give me that vibe. I'm going to be honest with you.

58:27 I don't?

58:28 No.

58:29 But once again, I was doing this in Jacksonville. The only difference was what I just said. We were losing.

58:37 Right.

58:39 Nobody cared.

58:40 So now... I'm on a winning team on a winning program. Oh, he's the Joker all of a sudden.

58:46 Why is he laughing?

58:48 No, no, Leonard Fournette been laughing his whole career.

58:51 What's the craziest shit you ever said mic'd up? And you realize you was mic'd up after you said it?

58:58 Oh, bro, listen. Man, listen, listen. I told somebody I was going to fuck their girl. Yeah, yeah. Like, no, no, no, no. Like, he, I ain't going to say no names, but... listen. You know when you're catching a screen and they can hit you? See, he got me with a good hit. But at the same time, it doesn't count because I wasn't looking. So he like, you had bitches all day. I said, boy, I'm going to fuck your girl. Bro, that's the first thing you came to? Bro, listen. I flashed out.

59:36 You went with the thing that would hurt him the most.

59:37 Yeah.

59:38 That's crazy.

59:40 Yeah. Like, I flashed out. I flashed out. I'm like, you know what? He got a good look on me, right? And guess what?

59:45 I wasn't even looking.

59:47 See, I hate, like, and I hate plays like that. When it's predicated, like, oh, he hit me hard. Bro, I got to worry about how many steps I'm about to take. I make sure I don't run over the hash mark off my line and catch the ball. And not only that, my back turned, and I got to worry about my office alignment blocking y'all. And guess what?

1:00:07 Big guys in big spaces is a bad thing.

1:00:11 Yeah, it's tough.

1:00:13 They don't move.

1:00:13 He got his nigga on me, bro.

1:00:15 He said what he said.

1:00:16 I said what I said.

1:00:17 Fuck it. Move on to the next play. But guess what? He was mad as shit, though. Yeah.

1:00:21 I think I had a moment, too, where I ain't saying nothing crazy like that, but I definitely cursed a lot. And I could hear it just being like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Like the whole time I was saying shit.

1:00:32 See, I'm a petty guy. I'm a petty guy. Especially I'm playing against somebody that's good. I'm going to go on your Instagram. Yeah, you know everybody got family pictures. The wife tag. Oh, what's up with Brittany? What? Yeah, I'm taking it up.

1:00:46 Fuck it. Yeah, what's up with Brittany?

1:00:49 I'm like, Brittany?

1:00:50 Who's Brittany? No, your wife.

1:00:51 What's up with Brittany?

1:00:53 And guess what? We in the game, right? And also understand this. The stardom we have, the guys will believe it. Because guess what?

1:01:00 I got more followers than them. My name is bigger than them. So they're going to be like, oh, this motherfucker talking to my wife. So now I started a whole whatever at his house.

1:01:12 And I'm bullshit. I don't know what's going on.

1:01:13 Red Freak. Ray Free. I'm letting y'all know, if y'all playing this game, do what I do. Get them boys off their game now. Now, if you do catch after the game, be ready. Be ready.

1:01:26 I don't know what's gonna happen after that, but be ready, bro.

1:01:29 Oh, shit.

1:01:30 That's why you getting all of them fights after the game, bro. You staying wild shit out there.

1:01:35 That's crazy. So, Jarvis, after week seven, who are your top three teams?

1:01:42 Ooh, top three teams.

1:01:44 Top three teams.

1:01:45 Got to go with the Chiefs. I'm going to say Buffalo. Josh Allen, he's that guy. And then, man, I'm going to say the Browns, bro. The Browns, bro.

1:01:58 Let me throw this.

1:01:59 You say what?

1:02:00 The Browns. The Cleveland Browns. Dog check.

1:02:04 Oh, my God. People have one good little season, and they're a top three team all of a sudden.

1:02:11 Listen, bro, it is what it is. Them boys playing well. Again, I told you John Harbaugh and Ty Monken, Alpha Coach of the Year. He got, I mean, he was able to fix Deshaun Watson, bro. Ty Monken was able to fix Deshaun Watson. This Cleveland Brown team is doing what hasn't been done in over a decade. People can't, you know, you can't overlook this. Like, this is a historic moment for the Clevelanders. And for me to have worn the brown and orange for a few years and understand what it means to the people of Cleveland, they are in the top three in the league right now. And number one, might I add, in their division.

1:02:58 Who are you talking about?

1:03:02 The Cleveland Browns.

1:03:03 All right. You know what, bro? I ain't fussing with your ass today. I'm going to.

1:03:08 Let you have it. I see a lot of news outlets. I see a lot of sports analysts talking about the Cleveland Browns being a team that's good, but they not make the playoffs. I'm going to say right here on Forty South, you're wrong. Cleveland Browns making the playoffs this year. Guaranteed. If not, I shave my head bald like Lenny Head.

1:03:30 Don't do that, bro. You got a couple summers left already on top of your head. Don't Don't, don't. Pick another bet. Please, please. Oh, shit. So, my top three, 49ers. The bang gang is real. Right now, we're in the bang up, but we gonna shake back. I gotta put my boys in the Bengals. Sneaky.

1:03:57 They put 35 on them boys in.

1:03:58 Baltimore, man. Come on, man.

1:04:03 And I got to go with the Vikings.

1:04:06 They're undefeated, though. They're doing something right right now. So that's my top three. No, that's real.

1:04:13 That's real.

1:04:15 That's my top three.

1:04:16 I think we hit. I think that's six of the best teams, honestly. You had three different teams than I had. I think that's six of the best teams in the NFL. Obviously, the Niners went down today. The Bengals doing what they're doing. The Vikings up. And. The Cleveland Browns is not the same Browns, bro. So it's an exciting time right now in Cleveland. I'm going to ride this wave.

1:04:43 He's stuck on that shit, yo. I promise you.

1:04:45 I'm going to ride this wave as long as I can ride this wave because, you know. You got to put your mind in the mind of a Cleveland Brown fan at this moment.

1:04:56 Right. I understand. Right. And then I knew something was going to be different. You come on here looking like Morpheus. The glasses, the jacket.

1:05:04 So I knew you was going.

1:05:05 To be on some bullshit today. So I'm going to let you get on your high horse and keep riding. That can only be one.

1:05:13 Red pill, blue pill. Hey, but that's a real question, though. Is Cleveland red pill, blue pill, man?

1:05:23 We'll see. We'll see, man. Can we get into some college football? Hey, Miami looking like number one right now.

1:05:31 They are, and they should be.

1:05:33 Malachi Tony.

1:05:35 Animal.

1:05:35 Five what?

1:05:36 I don't know, but you know this kid was 16 years old, 17 years old when he was playing in the college playoffs last year? He was a child. He a man.

1:05:48 Yeah, child playing like a man.

1:05:49 Bro, man child. Last week he went off again for another one buck something.

1:05:54 So right now, is Miami the best college football team?

1:05:59 I think they are, bro. I think they have the players. The men secure at quarterback. He doing what he got to do. You know, get the ball to Tony as many times as possible. I ain't seeing nobody that could really beat Miami. I'm looking around the college landscape of things.

1:06:15 Go to their schedule. Go to their schedule. Because this is where me and you going to bump heads.

1:06:20 I'm going to tell you this. To me, they're not. They don't play nobody. They haven't played nobody yet.

1:06:25 They just beat Florida State.

1:06:28 Fuck Florida State. Don't make me jump through this.

1:06:31 Why don't you make me jump through the screen, boy, and tackle your ass?

1:06:33 You talking about Florida State. Florida State ain't been the same since Jalen Ramsey and them.

1:06:39 The hell?

1:06:39 Let's see. Let's see. So they beat Stanford. First game of the year. They beat Florida and they'll wait for Central Michigan. They beat Clemson and they beat Florida State and Pittsburgh. They got Notre Dame on their schedule. Notre Dame is in.

1:06:55 No, no, no, no, no. We're not talking about right now. We're talking about the games you just said. They are not.

1:07:00 The number one teams.

1:07:03 In my eyes. I just think these boys ain't lost a game since the national championship and even before that.

1:07:11 I don't give a damn what they did.

1:07:13 They're like 13-1, bro. In the last 14 games. Miami.

1:07:17 Miami. The Tigers catch my Tigers.

1:07:20 Not no Clemson. LSU Tigers catch on the playoffs. Michael Irvin. We can go belt for belt.

1:07:33 I don't see y'all beating us. Yeah.

1:07:37 Last time LSU played Miami.

1:07:39 Go to bed, Baba. Go.

1:07:43 Last time LSU played Miami, we won 33-17. Lord have mercy.

1:07:48 Lord have mercy.

1:07:51 So, you know, I think they know who we are, right? But I also think at the same time, they're playing great football. They're led by an extremely impressive coach.

1:08:01 You know?

1:08:02 And they winning the games that they're supposed to win. If I'm going to be real with you, you know what I'm saying? Like they ain't put themselves in a position.

1:08:08 They struggled. No, I ain't going to say they struggled because at first it was, right? Then towards the end of the game, like, you know, third, fourth quarter, it turned it up, right? Pittsburgh 23, Miami 52. Respectable. Yeah. Now watch this. Watch this. Jeremiah Smith was offered $ 10 million for Miami to come back home.

1:08:28 Man, if he would have took that and came back home, I'm telling you right now, Leonard, that wouldn't have been nobody if I go Miami, bro. I'm telling you, them boys on the same team. I mean, you talk about it now that there's only one football, but every time one of them touched the ball, it's a house call almost.

1:08:44 So it would have been impressive to watch.

1:08:47 Hey, y'all, listen, listen. Can we clip this?

1:08:51 I have to come closer. Who will win the Heisman?

1:08:53 Malakai Tony or Jeremiah Smith? Let's start this right now. Who will be the Heisman winner? Because guess what? After every touchdown, both of them hit the Heisman poles.

1:09:07 And this is the thing.

1:09:08 Nobody telling them nothing. When I hit the Heisman pole, I.

1:09:10 Was the back.

1:09:11 Come here.

1:09:14 Come here, Leonard.

1:09:15 So listen, I'm respecting what's going on. But Jeremiah, if you were to sign with Miami and both of y'all are from Miami, oh, my God.

1:09:24 That would have been crazy.

1:09:27 Oh, my.

1:09:27 No, I ain't talking about football. I'm talking about the money.

1:09:33 Oh, yeah. I mean, being from Florida and playing there. Yeah. Look, excuse my language, but listen. I can only imagine the young leader that's wearing Malachi Tony number. Oh, my God. Girl. All right, I'm doing something.

1:09:52 Go.

1:09:54 Why you not sleeping?

1:09:58 So look.

1:09:59 Ooh, she mad at you.

1:10:00 Yeah, she slamming the door, y'all. She slamming the door. I'm going to get her ass. I'm going to get her. So listen, not only that, they're.

1:10:08 Going to have jerseys with each other on Jeremiah Tony.

1:10:11 Ha, ha, ha.

1:10:14 Bro, just think about the money they could have made together, right?

1:10:16 I'm going to say this.

1:10:18 Me and Ben Simmons was at LSU together. We had a cup. They made a cup with me and Ben Simmons. We're selling it, and it sold out.

1:10:24 It's called 25-7. That's dope, though. Yeah, the cup was called 25-7. So imagine, imagine if them boys got an opportunity to play with each other being from the home state and ripping.

1:10:39 Oh, my God.

1:10:41 Yeah, that'd have been crazy, man. But also too, like, I think Jeremiah Smith knew, like, you know, being around family and all of that, you know what I'm saying? With that type of money, being that he was away and to come back home, it would have been a lot more pressure on him.

1:10:56 You know what I'm saying?

1:10:56 A lot more hands out, you know.

1:10:59 What I'm saying?

1:11:00 So, you know, I think he made the right decision. Plus, he the number one guy in OU, so why leave a place that already value you in that way? Opposed to, and obviously... You know, I play with Odell, so it's definitely possible to have two guys on the same team that are essentially wide receiver ones, but will have success. Like, that's not an impossible thing, especially with the quarterback mincer that they have, you know? But at the same time, you know, if you in your position, bro, I'm going to meet you at the top, my boy. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to see you at the top.

1:11:35 Them boys probably going to be one and two. While Jeremiah Smith going this year, right, and then Malachi, Tony going next year. But at the same time, they're going to be both first receiver taking off the board from the same place, man. Shout out to Florida, man. Florida do be putting them receivers out. I ain't going to lie, boy.

1:11:53 Them boys got them ankles and them knees, and them boys be bending like I ain't never seen nobody bend before. I ain't going to lie.

1:12:01 Yeah, you're right. And guess what? Speaking of our receivers, there's a young guy, Jesse, from Oregon State who hold a press conference saying he's staying. Another year.

1:12:11 He had a press conference.

1:12:12 Yeah.

1:12:14 He's signing back.

1:12:18 Wait, he had a press conference to announce that he's signing back to the same school?

1:12:23 Because essentially, you know this, you have a good year, everybody and their mother going to be calling for him to come to their school.

1:12:29 He's only a freshman, Jarvis. So I think he's keeping it political.

1:12:34 He did it right. I think they offered him two to three million dollars. That is life-changing money for anybody.

1:12:40 So, he did it big.

1:12:42 He did it.

1:12:43 Man, what?

1:12:44 Man, I ought to put myself on the market. If y'all want me to return back here to Oregon State. Oregon State, you say?

1:12:52 Yes.

1:12:54 Y'all better call Chad Ochoseko and get some money from him and put it in the pot.

1:13:00 Oh, my God.

1:13:01 I'm going to the highest bidder. Y'all know what I could do? What, uh... What's that thing say? What's that Shaq? He say, Kobe know what I could do. Shaq know what I could do. Y'all know what I could do? If y'all ain't going to match the, you know.

1:13:17 What I'm saying? Then I'm out of here. You ridiculous, though. Right.

1:13:20 It is what it is. As a receiver, as a receiver, especially how, you know, especially how people value receivers now in the NFL. And then, you know, you put good numbers up. You go to a school like Oregon State. you might drop out the first round. Even put numbers up like that. But you go to a school like LSU and do that. You go to a school like Miami University and do that. Boy, your ass ain't going to be the, by the time they say your last name, you're going.

1:13:51 To already be on the stage.

1:13:54 100%. 100%. You ain't even got to work out at the combine. You go to Oregon State, now they got to prove your height, weight, speed and all this, you know, based on who you play.

1:14:02 You know what I'm saying?

1:14:03 So like, it is a balance to it, but if I was that kid, man, look, I'd have been sitting back at the end of the year like Johnny Manziel.

1:14:13 The highest bidder. What?

1:14:15 Where's my guy, Jerry Maguire? Show me the money. Say it louder. Show me the money. I'm not playing around.

1:14:26 Listen, sometimes here on 4th and South, we can receive, you know, some fake news. Um, Jarvis thought Devil Sweeney got fired today.

1:14:38 Man, when I heard that he wasn't fired, I was like, what? Damn, why not?

1:14:44 So in long term, what's going on with Clemson Jarvis? Do you think it's the coach?

1:14:50 What is it? What's going on?

1:14:53 I think the jig is up, bro. I think it's finally over. You know what I mean? I feel like Dabo has put himself in a position where he didn't take advantage of the portal. Now all these things coming back to bite him. You know what I mean? It's one of those things where get out while they're getting this good. Even though it's not great right now, but you were a Hall of Fame coach in my book at Clemson. You probably can go and coach another prestigious organization, man.

1:15:24 Go take some rest. Go take some R & R, bro. Go talk on TV, man, and decide if you want to. I know he still want to coach because he got that fire about him. But I think for Clemson moving forward, man, they need to find a new direction to go in. You know what I'm saying? And we've seen it, and it's hard to do. Sometimes, you know, with Clemson, you also got to understand, too, it's hard to replace, you know, a coach like Dabo Sweeney with the track record that he has. But when you look at how college football has grown– Bro, if you're not winning a championship or in a college playoff football, you know, college football playoffs within two, three years.

1:16:01 Bro, one or two years. There's a no-go.

1:16:04 You're out of here. You're out of here. Am I wrong about that?

1:16:08 You're 100% right.

1:16:09 Yeah, like, you're out of here. And I feel like, you know, it's no disrespect to Dabo Sweden. He's a good coach, but I think the time is up. It don't even feel right. It don't even look like the same Clemson. It don't feel right. It don't look right. And I know we're not the only people that's sitting here and can recognize that.

1:16:31 So you're saying right now, Dabo should be looking for a podcast career.

1:16:38 Not a podcast career, but I definitely think that.

1:16:41 He belongs on TV.

1:16:43 No, for sure. On TV, until him and his agent can work out another deal at an SEC school, I think would be great for Dabo. Somewhere where You know, he can get better players automatically, somewhere they got a little bit more money. Who knows whatever happens to the, you know, the situation out in Texas with Sarkeesian. Who knows what happened with the situation out in Oregon. Oregon's been losing, fumbling the bag over the past couple, you know, games, year.

1:17:12 You know, so things might fall out, but if it don't, man, people would love to hear Dabo's passion and hear the things that he got to say about football today. you know, talking about it, you know, whether that's on a network or whatever it is. But, you know, I think the arrow is up, man.

1:17:29 So I can say this, Coach. We also have a spot on here for a fake Tiger. For a fake Tiger to join a real Tiger. So you're welcome, baby. You are welcome. I got a chick next to me, y'all. I got a chick next to him. Come join the 4th and South Pass, baby. Come join us.

1:17:47 He saw the real Death Valley when he played in it.

1:17:49 Oh, yeah.

1:17:50 I know he felt it.

1:17:51 Belt.

1:17:53 I know he felt that.

1:17:55 Speaking on that value, the Tigers are back. Hey, I feel it.

1:17:59 Hey, I feel it.

1:18:00 In my soul, y'all. 38-17 over a confusing Auburn team that just beat Georgia. As I'm watching the game, I'm like, this can't be the same team.

1:18:17 Can't be.

1:18:18 Who the hell is these frauds?

1:18:22 So, say this, right? Can LSU make the playoffs with two losses? I think we can. Everybody's schedule is about to be harder and harder. And y'all know, towards the end of the season, SEC on SEC playing, that's what we need. Yeah. So, I say yes. Jarvis, what about you?

1:18:45 I say yes, too. I think, you know, the college football playoffs also has experienced and a lot of these teams have went down over the last couple weeks. So, you know, it's very much open. And we have a bye week this week, and you know before that bye, every time after that bye, who we got?

1:19:04 Roll them.

1:19:07 Roll them tight. You know, so that's going to be a big win for us. Alabama is ranked 10th right now. And then, you know, we got a tough next three games.

1:19:19 We could do it, though.

1:19:20 We could do it. Two out of three is at home. We at home against Alabama. We at home again against Texas. And then we go away against Tennessee.

1:19:30 Listen, I will be at the Texas game.

1:19:33 Yeah.

1:19:34 So, man and family, get ready.

1:19:36 You talking shit?

1:19:39 Come on now, man.

1:19:40 Oh, man, that's crazy. Come on, man.

1:19:43 So I'm looking at this. Sam Leavitt has been executing well.

1:19:48 No, he has been. He has been.

1:19:50 No turnovers. No turnovers. He's not scrambling as much. He's trusting his guys. He's trusting his footwork. He's trusting his eyes. He's throwing the ball. He's getting the ball out quick. We need that.

1:20:00 We need that.

1:20:02 Do you think he wasn't comfortable enough like the first few games? Like let's just say like the first half of the season. You think that, like, obviously he came from, what, Arizona, right? Arizona State?

1:20:12 Arizona State. Right?

1:20:14 Like, the game speed, the atmosphere, all those things, like, he hadn't caught up to it. Obviously, he got paid. He got paid enough to, like, we ain't trying to hit no damn excuses, right?

1:20:25 Yeah.

1:20:26 But for the last two weeks, he looked so much calmer.

1:20:31 But as you know, when you play... in the SEC, right? The games get slower. You notice, I notice, from my freshman year into the middle of the season, I started catching up to the speed of the game. Right? And when you study the playbook, when you're out there, you're feeling 100% about the plays you're running, and you're not second-guessing certain calls, certain throws, you're on target.

1:20:55 You can't be stopped. And yes, I'm looking at the schedule right now.

1:21:00 The rankings, Miami number one, Ohio State, Georgia, Indiana, the only undefeated. Well, hold up.

1:21:07 Whoa, surprising.

1:21:08 Miami, 7-0. Ohio State, 6-1. Georgia, 6-1. Indiana, 7-1. Notre Dame, 6-1.

1:21:16 Utah, undefeated.

1:21:18 Undefeated. UCLA, undefeated.

1:21:24 BYU, 6-1. Kentucky Fried Chicken, 7-1.

1:21:28 No, impressive.

1:21:31 Impressive. Right.

1:21:33 Kentucky, I'm telling you, so impressive.

1:21:36 And Bama, 6-2.

1:21:39 Man, you seen the running back try to come at you a little bit?

1:21:42 Who?

1:21:43 The running back, Snell. Snell Jr.

1:21:48 What did Snell say? You know that's my dog. What did he say, bro?

1:21:51 He didn't come at you. He was just saying, like, you were saying how, like, their uniforms poo and shit like that on the show.

1:21:55 Hey, Snell, Snell, you see this? Fuck you.

1:22:02 We probably have to see Kentucky again anyway. So, you know, it's going to be up. But, you know, I'm happy with the landscape of college football is heading to. I think LSU is headed back in the right direction. You know, I saw Lane go for it on our own 35 on the fourth and one. And we got the first down trade as back on the field. And I'm like, man, like this is this is that like I want to see that energy of like we are better.

1:22:27 Period.

1:22:28 Man to man, we are better. I would like to see our defense play a little bit more man to man. I don't know. Maybe I'm like... You old school. Old school, right? Maybe I'm not looking at this the same way as I... But I just want to see our guys lock people up and not be catching the ball and making tackles.

1:22:52 I want to see. Competition at the catch point.

1:22:59 A hundred percent.

1:23:00 I want to see competition at the catch point. I don't see enough of it. And I think that if we, you know, we got a tough schedule here, you know, Alabama, they got good receivers, Texas. They got a few good receivers out there that can make plays, right? They might blow it in the long run, Texas. Yeah. But they got guys that can make plays. I want to see people competing at the catch point. I don't want to see our DBs having 75 tackles on this season. That should never happen. Our DB should be in the thirties to forties and tackles and in the teens and PBUs and elite. And one DB should have at least 10 picks, double digit picks.

1:23:34 That's the standard.

1:23:35 That's the standard.

1:23:36 That's the standard. That's the standard.

1:23:38 But I do think we on the right track, bro. Um, and, and you know, LSU always held it down for Louisiana, even though the saints is struggling right now. LSU always held it down.

1:23:48 So, so I'm going to, I'm going to do this right before, before we head out. Right. Um, Mentally, spiritually? How you been feeling, my brother?

1:23:57 Oh man, God is amazing. He's the best ever. All praises to him.

1:24:03 Yeah.

1:24:03 The air in my lungs, the blood in my body, the words on my lips, you know what I'm saying? Getting a chance to sit next to a person, cross the screen from you, you know what I'm saying? Have a healthy family, healthy kids, bro. I cannot complain. What about you?

1:24:18 I've been all right, bro. I think I've been struggling a little bit lately. I went to church today and the pastor gave me a word. He was like, trust God even when you can't trace him. I thought about betrayal. You know how it is, but being the first millionaires of your family, whatever, and we try to do right by everybody, not just your immediate family, but friends and everything.

1:24:49 I think You know, I had a situation with a couple of my homies that, you know, they did some things to me that were not like that. Let me backtrack that shit up. Let me backtrack it up. They betrayed me in a way, but it kind of made me not want to mess with people anymore. But, you know, that's just something I've been praying on, and God has been, you know, helping me week in and week out. You know, because, like, when I lost a friend from betrayal, you know, God gave me a better friend. You know what I'm saying?

1:25:23 So I think this is a testimony to anybody that's out there that's been betrayed and that's gone through something. The biggest thing, man, we have to learn to forgive them. You got to forgive, man. I was so upset. I didn't take care of him, his daughter, mother. I paid for people's kids to go to school. And that hurts.

1:25:49 When a person you consider a real brother, a real friend, betray you like that. So if you're going through this, something similar to this, man, I tell you, find it in your heart to forgive, right? And if you're out there, it's another thing. If you're out there, you're single. I believe this. We should not be doing life alone. And when I say that, because in hindsight, y'all, I want you to understand this. The devil wants us alone.

1:26:21 That's right.

1:26:22 Right? So, you out there looking, going to date sites, date shows, find somebody. Nobody don't want to be doing life alone. They got plenty of good women out there. Now, they might be read through, but....

1:26:41 Bro, there's no way. There's no way you let that fall away up to that point.

1:26:48 Listen, they might be through some things, but hey, find you one.

1:26:52 And if you need help, hit us up on 4th and South. We got you.

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1:27:10 Peace out, baby. 4th and South.