4th & South - Why NFL & Eagles doctors are to BLAME for Jalen Hurts’ Blood Clots

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0:01 Ha ha! Ha ha! Don't worry about that, baby.

0:07 This is 4th and South and we back with Zenny!

0:12 With Jen with it, baby! Listen, we got a special to do. We talking about blood clocks.

0:17 Clocks, whatever. Hey, bro.

0:21 We got some shit going on. Running backs getting released. We got three, what, full-time? We was a full-time?

0:26 Yes, sir.

0:29 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Welcome to Ford in the South. Listen, bro. Jalen Hurts and his blood clocks. Right?

0:54 If you've ever been a part of an NFL organization, right, selfishly, It depends on where you at in your career. Right? Right.

1:05 I play with injury. You play with injuries.

1:08 Yeah.

1:10 Just to get that next.

1:11 Bag, just to show them that you're dedicated and you can play through anything. Jarvis, I tell you what, this hair makes.

1:17 No sense to me.

1:19 Yeah.

1:19 I ain't playing through no blood clot.

1:22 Yeah. And that's why our agency, right, get a second opinion.

1:28 Not from the team doctor.

1:29 Go to your own doctor and make sure you're okay because the team will always do what's.

1:33 Best for them.

1:35 Facts.

1:35 This is, to me, selfish on behalf of the Eagles and whoever is representing them on the medical staff.

1:46 What if he would have died?

1:50 Man. Well, listen, I don't want to go that far. But no, no, no.

1:54 But we have to because, right?

1:55 Even though he's protected.

1:57 By God, right?

1:59 But at the end of the day, that is selfish for whoever in the Eagles medical staff to let him go out there and play. Or maybe he decided to take it upon himself just to play, right? Being the warrior he is, the gladiator, being up for his team. But at the end of the day, if you're a coach, right? No matter how bad we want to play, You should know.

2:24 They should know. This is a risk taker with his life. I do not respect the decision at all.

2:32 Yeah.

2:33 I mean, I.

2:36 Don't know. I think there's so many different layers to this.

2:38 For instance, when you play in these overseas games and you got guys that have injuries, you have to take into account you flying nine hours for Philly.

2:47 It probably was closer to 10, 12-hour flights.

2:52 Right.

2:52 And all that time in the air with guys that are injured, guys that need extra imaging, extra screening.

2:57 You know what I mean?

2:58 Like, I think as much as we want to look at the Eagles, I think we should be looking at the NFL on this matter, too.

3:03 Like the Eagles had to fly from Chicago.

3:06 Their international game back to Philly to play a home game, right? Which caused them to make, they had to have travel plans.

3:15 While I think personally.

3:17 To avoid all of this is after you play an international game, you automatically get a bye. you automatically get a bye week. So what if that has to extend the NFL season for another week or two? But as novel as this thing is with Jalen Hurts, I'm sure it has happened before.

3:35 For instance, it happened with me. I'm not going to say I'm sure it happened before. It happened with me.

3:39 I remember playing in New Orleans once. In 2022 for the Saints and we play against Carolina, we leave it from Carolina to go straight to Tottenham, to Liverpool to play a game. I get hurt in the Carolina game. My ankle, because of all the inflammation, we go to the hospital in Carolina to take a look and get scans and x-rays. But because of the inflammation, we couldn't diagnose my injury. So I had to then jump on a plane because we had travel plans and had to make it to London at a certain time. Flight plan, flight schedule, all this stuff.

4:12 Right.

4:12 I get to London. I get to Liverpool and I'm playing in a game. I'm practicing that week.

4:18 With no idea what I did to my ankle.

4:20 We speculating. We say, hey, maybe it's a high ankle sprain. Maybe you tore your posterior tib. You know, maybe it's a Liz Frank. Like, we have no idea.

4:31 But I practiced through the week.

4:33 And, Leonard, if you could have seen the amount of tape I had on my ankle for that game, because they didn't tell me my ankle was broke. They didn't tell me– they didn't give me truly any– medical term that would justify why I would be missing a game. And you notice, Jalen Hurst probably is saying, wait, if I can go, I'm going. If I can go, I'm going.

5:00 So as players too, we got to also have an awareness to be like, man, look, how serious is this?

5:06 Be able to ask the right questions.

5:07 And on the opposite side, they need to be able to give us the right responses or the right hesitations or reservations or whatever it is to, to, to help us understand what we dealing with here.

5:19 Right.

5:20 I ended up playing in that game and I ended up doing more ankle, more damage to my ankle. We get back to new Orleans two weeks after my ankle, actually after the injury. And now I'm just finding out what actually happened to my ankle.

5:34 So you say that, right.

5:35 And like I said earlier, NFL players, college players always get a second opinion on whatever injury you're dealing with. Because you don't know what's at stake for them, right? The head coach might be about to lose the job, right? The GM might be about to lose the job. They're going to do whatever it takes to protect the ass.

6:01 They'll risk your life. Hey, be careful.

6:05 I did the same thing in 2018 with the Jaguars.

6:09 I went out there.

6:11 I pulled my hamstring week one against the Giants. Man, I was not getting better for some reason. I was aggravated. I tried to come back the fourth week using the NFL doctors at the Jaguars, and I went out there, I think, against the Jets, and I hurt myself again. I got frustrated, and I wound up leaving, right? I got fined for leaving, but the owner, Shaq Khan, who to me, one of the best owners in the NFL, flew in a doctor from Germany Uh, cause I, I didn't like when you're dealing with Andrew, you don't know all the, all of the ends out.

6:46 Like, so my, my big toe was jammed.

6:48 Like we did a lot of big, a lot of footwork.

6:52 My big toe, all my toes, everything started, everything started.

6:55 So when they did that, I came back healthier.

6:57 So when I, when I say that also go to a team that's going to invest in their players, invest in them right here, he, he invested in me.

7:05 Out of his own pocket. I had to pay for nothing.

7:08 So, after you deal with it, that's why they got players' comps. They got these guys who's taking injury settlements.

7:15 The shit is real. NFL is not for loan.

7:20 Yeah, 100% injury rate.

7:23 100%, right? B, I was fortunate enough to play eight years. Jarvis, you played what?

7:28 I played nine years.

7:30 Nine years, right?

7:31 We beat the statistic of playing.

7:35 The number nine was two and a half?

7:37 Yeah, it was three back in 2014. It was three years.

7:41 Hey, the numbers are going down, y'all. 100%. So when you trying to come to the NFL, just know this. Have your shit together.

7:49 No, absolutely. Do you think that like.

7:52 know again like i i still think this falls as much as it falls on the team and and and it does right like you know understanding that okay there's a superficial blood clot in his calf we're about to fly 10 hours like with this air pressure and and blood clots you know you know like they could have made an expert decision right but do you think that they you know consulted with a specialist during this time or they trusted the team doctors to make a decision because you know, after emotional game, like they played in Jacksonville, you got to think, you know, I know after a game and especially a loss like that, it was eight seconds on the clock. I'm definitely, I'm packing my shit and I'm gonna meet y'all at the plane. Like, I

8:30 don't even want to talk to nobody, you know, like maybe did Jalen hurts not talk to the doctors before getting on the plane. Did the doctors feel Jalen hurts by not saying, Hey, listen, let's take a look at that before we fly.

8:44 Hey, how's the calf before? Like, like, Is it... You know, like, we don't really know.

8:50 I think that there's opening up an investigation now on, you know, of what happened and what transpired throughout those days from the calf to the lungs and the flight and all of this stuff and the doctors and how they handled the process. But, you know, after a game, Leonard, you packing, especially after a loss like that, you packing your shit.

9:08 And you ain't trying to talk to nobody.

9:10 Yeah, I think... I'm going to go back to what you was asking me. I'm not quite sure. You know, I think.

9:17 Jalen is in the height of his career where he understands. I think he knows the game. I think as a warrior, you know, I think he want to go out there and perform to help his team out the best way he can. But I don't think the doctors did him a service.

9:33 Yeah.

9:34 Like I just said, I'm going to keep saying it. What if something would have happened to Jalen on the plane ride back? They say the blood clock went up to his lung. Protect your players by any means.

9:46 Yeah.

9:47 Especially a quarterback. It's hard finding a quarterback in this league nowadays. And despite, despite everything that's going on, he's been playing exceptional.

9:57 Yeah.

9:58 He's been playing exceptional. So now, he's out for the season now. Now that team is about to separate. I'm going to tell you that right now. I don't care who paid who. That shit is about to go down the drain right now.

10:13 As we speak.

10:14 The ego's done.

10:17 There's no Jalen. No Devontae. It was Saquon. That's the whole offense.

10:24 Yeah.

10:24 They traded one of their best offensive linemen. And then the other one retired this year as well.

10:32 Fly, Eagles, fly.

10:34 Yeah.

10:35 I mean, I think so, too. You know, and I'm going to be interested as this continues to unfold again. I want to believe this case that Jalen Hurst is dealing with, with the blood clots is a novel thing.

10:48 Right. Nobody really understand. It's like COVID.

10:51 It's like nobody really understand it or seen it in these situations and circumstances.

10:55 But, you know, we trust these doctors to be able to have our back.

10:59 And we're counting on them to be able to give us information that we don't know. We didn't go to medical school. We didn't go to doctors. And again, there's a lot of moving parts here with the NFL. We're getting back to make sure you get back to Philly to get ready for the game the next week and all of these things. So, you know, it's a lot of moving pieces, but I'm sure the NFL will get back to the bottom of it. But guys, players, make sure to take care of yourself. If you still unsure, if there's something bothering you, man, ask the question. Take care of yourself. And trainers, team doctors, you know, Just fill in, check in with the guy, man.

11:39 Maybe they did. Maybe they covered all their bases, whatever it is. And this is one of those things. And we're going to be praying for Jalen Hurts.

11:46 You know, I've been praying for him over the last couple of days of just kind of understanding more and more about the news and the possibilities of all the tragic things that can, you know, come from this. You know, so he and our prayers, I can give a damn about how well the Eagles do or how they finish.

12:02 You know what I mean?

12:04 And I know he got he got contract talks coming up and he's not playing for the rest of the season. So you write Leonard. That team probably is done and finished. But but Jalen Hurts, we pray for your brother. This is bigger than football, man. So we you and our prayers, dog, get better. And we can't wait to see you back on that field, whether that's in the Eagles uniform or somewhere else. I need to tell you guys about this new prediction market called Polymarket. It's the best way to trade in sports. In the past, if you wanted action on the game, you put some money in and if your team was doing well and you wanted to cash out, they'll lock your trade or take a huge fee. But Polymarket is a prediction market. It's like the stock exchange

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13:49 You can pick the Jets to win at 68%. Leonard.

13:53 Does the Dolphins shock everybody and get their first win this week against the Jets?

13:59 No.

14:02 The Dolphins about to be over for whatever.

14:06 Hey, hey, place that on the Jets. I promise you.

14:12 100%.

14:12 Is this the last week we get Malik Willis? They're coming off a bye. A lot of talk been, you know, he got paid. He only had six starts.

14:21 I say the same thing.

14:24 We talked about this. I told you the same thing.

14:26 I think right now, the keys for them, for the Dolphins to get their first win, I think everybody got to just go out there and not worry about the record.

14:34 It's an effort.

14:36 Yeah.

14:36 Just try our best.

14:39 Yeah.

14:39 Just try our best.

14:40 And personally, if we're going to take the favors, I think Geno Smith is the better quarterback in this competition.

14:45 Yeah. In this matchup.

14:46 Yeah.

14:47 You know what I'm saying? So, I don't know.

14:50 I got. Gino, two touchdowns, probably two touchdowns over 200 yards. I think Malik, one touchdown, 200 yards.

15:02 That's my guess.

15:04 I will say this.

15:05 If there was any game on the schedule that the Dolphins could win, it's this one. And I think if they came out, especially after a bye week, the Jets have just played two hard weeks. They played against Cleveland and went down to the wire. They just got blowed out against New England Patriots. This is the perfect time to put the nil in the coffin and put a win in the win column for the Dolphins.

15:29 So I'm going to go against the grain. I like the odds. I'm going Fins getting their first win this week, baby. Fins up. Let's go. Fins up. First dub this week. I'm telling you.

15:43 Watch what I say. Watch what I say. We're going to keep it simple. We don't have to do a lot to beat the Jets. Dolphins get their first win.

15:51 Mark my words. 100%.

15:54 And we're speaking of owners, GMs. Miss Gordon. I don't know what's going.

16:06 On.

16:06 Listen, me and Jarvis have two different opinions. I respect it.

16:10 You're on the sideline, taking notes. My thing is, what the hell are you taking notes on? So we're referring to the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. Right.

16:26 And it seems like she's just trying to learn more about the game and have more of an understanding about what plays are going into the game, why this is being called. She's trying to be a football nerd. She's trying to nerd out. Do you think that that's helpful to the team, though? In my experience, I've never had an owner on the sideline with us.

16:51 So I don't know. Right.

16:53 The owner gives the full the full job to the coaches, the GM. Hey, this y'all show y'all run it now.

17:03 Is it working for her, though?

17:07 No, it ain't working at all.

17:09 It was working at one point, though, wasn't it? Last year? Before Daniels got hurt?

17:15 Well, Phillip Rivers came back.

17:16 Phillip Rivers came back for a year, helped finish the season now.

17:20 Whatever it is.

17:21 At 70 years old.

17:23 Yeah, right.

17:24 Which was a smart move by Chris Ballard, who she actually fired this week, by the way.

17:31 And I'll say this, you know, I've had owners.

17:33 That have been hands-on, like, Jimmy and Dee has them in Cleveland where, you know, they want to understand who's on the field and what these plays that's being called. And are you happy with the coordinator and, you know, things like that.

17:49 Right.

17:49 And I've had an owner in Stephen Ross when I play here in Miami where he's like, man, look, I'm I'm I'm the bank.

17:56 If y'all need some, call me.

17:59 Outside of that, coaches, GM, all these other analytical people in here, y'all going to do y'all job. And I see y'all when y'all play in New York and I see y'all at some games when y'all play at home in Miami. But as much as I respect it, I'm also just kind of like, man, but that's not translating into like wins.

18:18 You understanding the game as an owner. again, it means something to.

18:24 Some degree, but your team is not, it's not like you got Tom Brady out there and you're trying to, you know, be a part of the, like you need to build a squad. Like you need to be a part of the team, the people that's building a squad. And if you putting your trust into.

18:36 Guys like Chris Ballard, who you just fired.

18:39 At Indianapolis, you know what I mean? Now you need to be looking to who's the next man up. Who's going to, unless she about to go out there and start calling plays. All of the notes that she done took.

18:49 As a player, right? Yeah.

18:50 Which one is better, hands-on or hands-off? Because I can tell you this.

18:56 I've always had owners who was hands-off and let the ballers ball, let the coaches coach, and let the fans fan. Mm-hmm.

19:06 Which one would you prefer, Jarvis?

19:08 Listen, listen.

19:10 It seems like she is hands-off, right? But it seems like she has become a presence on the sideline, which, again.

19:19 like I don't understand.

19:21 You feel me? It's like, if, if you're doing this to be able to, I don't know. It seemed like she trying to call plays. It seems like she wants to be an offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator. And, and that's the part of it is like, you know, then who's running the team. And, and, and, and again, I've seen owners both ways. There's a, there is a place.

19:44 For women in this, in football, in sports period.

19:47 You know, I think I, what I'm trying to figure out the most is how do you how do you put so much time into learning the plays? Who's running the business? who's behind the people that's building the team? If you want to be hands-on, I think that there's a better way to be hands-on. I think that there's a better lane to be in to be more hands-on.

20:13 You know what I mean?

20:14 And trying to understand what's snap count or why are we going on two?

20:18 What's our goal line plan for the week? You know what I mean? Like, To me personally, that's how I feel. I don't know how the players feel.

20:27 Like you said, you had an owner that let the players play, let the coaches coach. And he stood out of it, right? You guys went to the NFC Championship. You know, Indy has been trying to get back there since, you know, yeah, in a way.

20:43 You know what I mean?

20:44 And stay there, right? They're not there to stay there. Jacksonville is running that division.

20:48 So we're going to do this, right? You know, you got a couple of bucks. I got a couple of bucks.

20:54 Let's go get us a little team, you know what I'm saying?

20:59 I'll put some money somewhere. You put some money somewhere. You be the owner.

21:02 I'll be the owner. I'll be hands-off, right? I'll let you be hands-on because that sounds like more your lane, right?

21:10 Right or wrong?

21:12 Right. You're right.

21:13 Let's see who come out victorious.

21:15 Yeah, listen, but also understand this, Leonard.

21:18 There's a way to be a present owner and not be on the sideline trying to, you know, Learn everything about, you know, I agree.

21:28 I could still be a present owner. Right. You see, you know what I mean?

21:31 So, you know, I think I think Jerry Jones is a great example of this. And obviously we could talk about the Cowboys not being successful anymore, being the same old Cowboys. But Jerry Jones has has made it his point to put his money where his mouth.

21:47 At and also be the man behind helping build the team.

21:52 And also to build a losing team. Let's not forget that.

21:55 No, for sure.

21:56 But I would still put the Cowboys, obviously Cowboys is America's team, right? But I would still put the Cowboys, even in today's time, above the Indianapolis Colts.

22:06 For sure.

22:07 So whatever Jerry Jones is doing, that is working in a way, right?

22:13 Obviously, we compare apples and oranges. But at the same time, I feel like his process of these.

22:20 Things is, and again, I'm not going into the whole he's a man and she's a female. It's not about that at all. It's not about that at all. But I think that there is something to put your passion, your attention, and your focus to that helps the team get better.

22:42 I don't know what Ms.

22:44 Carly does outside of, you know, learning the plays on the sideline. And I could be totally wrong, but I've seen more about what she's done on the sideline than I've actually seen what she's doing up top. And to me, that could be a distraction for players. You know, that, hey, you know, I'm walking around the building. She's like, hey, I thought on scat 226 F's Choice, you got a slant.

23:10 The type of person I am, I'm like, listen, shut up.

23:15 Shut up. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But I don't know.

23:20 Listen, maybe the Indianapolis Colts figure it out. She seems very stern. She seems very serious. She fired Chris Ballard. And it seems like she's not done there. So we'll see how everything play out. But Indy right now is not looking good.

23:38 And, you know, we'll see.

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24:11 This Rule Breaker segment is presented by Sling. Lenny, what coach changed the game for you? Where were you and why?

24:21 I would say Bruce Arians was flexible. He's a coach, right?

24:24 He kept it real with me when I was at my down moments in my career. As you know, when I wanted to quit football, when I've gotten to Tampa from Jacksonville, He had a talk on the plane where I was kind of frustrated, crying about me not playing as much. And I felt like I was better than RB1.

24:47 And he always had faith in me.

24:48 Throughout my duration of my Tampa run. And even when I became the playoff lane that people know, they don't know how coach was on my ass. Not just wanting me to be a better football player, but a better professional.

25:05 Right.

25:06 You know, rescheduling, doing things the right way. So, Coach Arians, Coach, if I didn't tell you, I'm going to tell you this now. I appreciate you for making me the player I was, for seeing that in me, to being one of the best guys to play the game.

25:23 So I say I thank you for being.

25:26 Real with me, understanding, being a father figure, not just to me, but all my teammates. And, man, I wish we had a couple more years with each other.

25:36 To play for you.

25:38 And we definitely won probably two more Super Bowls.

25:43 So I say, man, listen, we haven't talked in a while.

25:45 Love you, miss you. Let's go golfing. Let me come whoop your ass, coach. Appreciate you.

25:50 Yeah, yeah, the unsung hero. Love it, bro.

25:53 Listen, speaking of not looking good, they released my dog, Nigel Harris.

26:00 Yeah, he's out of there.

26:01 Nigel was released over touches. Then Harbaugh says he has issues with the backfield. We do not have Saquon or Derrick Henry. I'm going to let you know this. If I was in that running back room, me and Coach Harbaugh would have a real man-to-man talk.

26:24 That's like me and you at dinner with our wives, right?

26:29 Yeah.

26:30 My wife bring up one of her ex- The fuck is you doing?

26:35 Live with a flip the whole table up.

26:37 Why is you bringing up? Because as men, this peon up around me and my guy, I'm going to fill it with.

26:49 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the fact that he said that about, like, if you was in there.

26:58 I would have took off. So now you haven't made the right decision? Because this happened right afterwards.

27:05 Yeah, 100%.

27:07 Yeah.

27:07 First of all, he's been a cowbell his entire life. So that changes from you when you go from RB1.

27:16 I don't know.

27:18 What the fuck in the depth chart.

27:21 RB3.

27:21 What is he? RB4. I don't know what he is.

27:24 Yeah, they have four backs. They have four backs.

27:26 Well, listen, that is disrespectful.

27:29 Coach Harbaugh, I understand you old school, but maybe you too old school. I'm the type of player, I wear my emotions on my sleeve. So you telling me my resume ain't shit? You telling me my four to three years of rushing 1,000 yards consecutive ain't nothing? Oh, hell no. Oh, hell no. And I can tell you me, I've been the number one guy my whole life. But having to come to Tampa, right? Having to come to Tampa, brother, and really humble myself and watch somebody beat RB1 for the regular.

28:12 Season, I had to come in through playoffs.

28:15 Yeah.

28:15 Ooh, that made me run hard.

28:18 Yeah.

28:19 Yeah.

28:19 Hey, that made me run hard, Jarvis.

28:23 Yeah. Because guess what? Everything happens for a reason, but.

28:28 Coach, listen, something happened on the plane. On the year I wasn't playing with Tampa, right, he won the Super Bowl. I'm doing my thing, y'all. 80 yards against the Panthers, right? I got 80 yards in third, fourth quarter.

28:48 I guess no love.

28:50 You know why? Why?

28:52 Ronald Jones breaks a 100-yard touchdown. Now, I ain't no hater, right?

28:58 But that shit took all the love and air out of me though. And y'all got to understand, I'm a competitor. That's what I do for a living. I want to help the team as best as I can when I'm on the field. But when I'm not on the field, I'm nothing. So we in the locker room, everybody cheering. Brady come slap me on my back. Grunt man, Arabite man, fuck off me right now.

29:27 This motherfucker stole my touchdown. So it's like, I.

29:34 See where Najee's coming from.

29:37 Yeah. Right.

29:38 I understand. because we're competitors.

29:41 We want to feel like we brought something to the table to help the team win. To me, he's going through what I went through. And when I tell you, bro, I don't know what's next for you and your career, your future.

29:55 But don't give up. Don't give up. You was drafted first round for a reason.

30:02 Right. Facts.

30:03 Listen, they wrote me off after I left Tampa. He ain't going to do this. They ain't going to do this. Listen, I'm playing off Lenny. Fuck him.

30:13 I'm being like, fuck him. Go rewrite your own story. Coach Harbaugh. Don't do that.

30:21 Yeah.

30:22 But do you think that what Coach Harbaugh said has some merit to it, right? Like, you know, we don't, I mean, he's essentially saying we don't have a back that we can give the ball to 20, 30 times a game.

30:36 Like, we have a back, we have different types of backs, and we're trying to use all of them.

30:42 Well, listen, you know what that means. You know what that means, Jarvis. Scared to boot, your job's in trouble next year. They're going to get somebody. They're going to draft somebody. If you're not feeling them steps right now, Scatterboot, you better be Scatterboot. You better get your ass out there.

31:02 I can promise you that.

31:04 Yeah.

31:04 Because Jarvis, we all knew this. And they're still in their prime. In our primes, our coach wasn't saying nothing like that. No. Our coach wasn't saying we don't have a wide receiver one. We don't have an RB one. I'm going to look at coach. I'm telling you, me, who I am, I'm going to get on coach's ass.

31:19 We're going to have to have a man-to-man talk. I'm out here busting my ass every day. I'm showing my word. And not only that, I am showing up for non-voluntary shit.

31:31 I'm showing up for OTAs.

31:33 Yeah, being a team guy.

31:34 Coach, don't do me that, coach.

31:36 Yeah.

31:37 Because you saying fuck me, I can say fuck you. Yeah.

31:40 And we're going to leave it there.

31:42 How hard is it, though, to get momentum?

31:44 Like, how hard is it to build a rhythm as a running back when you're not, when you're on the team, you're not considered RB1?

31:52 There is no RB1, so it's by committee.

31:54 So, like, how hard is it to come in, whether that's, you know, on third down and try to make a play? or whether the scatterboo fumbles and now you come in and you haven't touched the ball all day and you've been on the.

32:08 Sideline, it's the third quarter. Like, how hard is it? You know, you did it, right?

32:12 You went from being RB1 in Jacksonville to go and be a running back, a part of a committee, right? You got your, that's how playoff Lenny, you gave birth to playoff Lenny, right? But like, how hard is it? Not the mental side of watching somebody else play, but to come off the sideline cold and be.

32:30 I'll tell you the truth, Jarvis.

32:32 I was always wrong.

32:34 Huh, bro?

32:35 Stay ready so you ain't got to get ready.

32:37 Jarvis, I wish they had some type of film to show you on the sideline. Because, like, I want y'all to know this. In the committee, when you got the hot hand, you got the hot hand. Listen, Jarvis, I ain't give a fuck what was going on. I can run 70 yards. I get tired as soon as we get by that goal line.

32:55 Boy, you getting your ass out.

32:58 Oh, my God. Jarvis, I don't give a damn what's going on.

33:05 Yeah.

33:06 Boy, I'm... Listen... I'm going to do a 60-yard rush. I'm going to come out for a.

33:10 Couple of plays. As soon as time's ready, somebody catch that by the 10, the 8.

33:15 Yes, Lord. Come on. Send me. Send me.

33:19 So I'm going to let you know I've always was warm. It's like, to me, that's a mindset thing. Because guess what? I've always had a great old line, great wide receivers that block. Oh, it's over with. Listen, my main thing, I told my guys, if you give me an inch, I'm going to take it a mile.

33:36 100%. That's what I did.

33:39 That's what I did. That's what I do.

33:41 I think this also is that I think this is like I think this is the second shot fired at Scatterboo as well, because I think so, because like when you look at when you look at when you look at going from being a starter to seeing your touches completely diminish your playing time completely diminish to to to the coach then saying we don't have a Derrick Henry.

34:07 We don't have a Saquon Barkley. This thing is about by committee. Like that's that's another slap in the face. That's that's that's like you say, it's got a boot after the season because it's like, yeah, you good for our team.

34:20 Yeah, you might run hard and provide some energy for us. But like.

34:25 We really ain't fucking with you like that. That's you know, I'm saying like we don't really see.

34:28 You as our guy for the future.

34:31 Because if that's the case, Coach Harbaugh would have never seen you right.

34:35 He would have never said this. He would have never compared him to some of the best, better backs in the league when these guys who he compared him to since day one was them guys.

34:46 So he know a guy when he see a guy. And that's telling me, my man, you might not be the guy. You know what I'm saying? And that's telling all the other running backs too that felt like, man.

35:00 Damn, we got to run behind him. Y'all can play.

35:03 Y'all can play.

35:04 Y'all might can play. They might put us in too.

35:10 Oh, hell no. You know what I'm saying?

35:13 That's what that tells me. As a receiver, I hear something like that, I'm like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You want to stay after practice, catch some extra balls?

35:21 Well, actually, I think when you was in Cleveland, y'all went through something like that with.

35:28 Coleman. That's funny. Well, kind of, kind of, kind of similarly. So Ty Haley, who.

35:34 Was the offensive coordinator at that time, he was trying to make Corey a little bit tougher for one. And then he felt like, you know, the culture in Cleveland was a little bit.

35:44 Baby, right?

35:44 So he thought that he was like baby.

35:46 So he was trying to toughen him up through, you know, experiences, through coaching, you know, through putting him back to make him start from the bottom and work his way up.

35:55 When all in hindsight, all he wanted to see Corey do is just show up. Work hard.

36:00 That's it.

36:02 Listen, I can remember a certain route and he ain't run it 100%. God, hey, God bless that man sober, bro. As a player, you should never let somebody else outdo you.

36:18 Outwork you.

36:19 And to me, that's what it was, right? Now, and let me bring it all back together. Now, if they're outworking Scadaboo, if Nigel was outworking Scadaboo, And he still didn't get the amount of touches he felt like he deserved.

36:32 Then, hey, let him leave. Right.

36:36 Find some success somewhere else. But right now, everybody's job is up for debate.

36:43 Dart.

36:44 Yeah. Jameis. JJ.

36:50 Yeah.

36:51 I'm going to.

36:52 Tell you, the only person that's okay over there is likely Emily.

36:59 The only two that's not expendable.

37:01 The only two. Everybody else, pack your bags.

37:06 Yeah.

37:07 Stay safe out here. I think Dart is safe. I think Dart is safe based on his rookie season. And then this year, you know, I wouldn't say he was hot, but he got hurt, what, in the second game of the year? Second game of the year in prime time. So he hasn't really had opportunity. Dart will be able to finish his contract in New York. But at the same time, you hit it. You also said something that's important and everybody should know. Your ass fall off for like a year, year and a half. we already looking for your replacements. Every Tuesday, by the way, we looking for your replacement. Every Tuesday in the NFL, they bringing receivers, quarterbacks, running backs, offensive linemen, defensive linemen, special team kickers, punters,

37:48 slow snappers in every Tuesday to try out for the, to make the team or to take your position every Tuesday.

37:55 I'm going to say this and we're going to move on. I promise you.

38:00 When you get in the NFL, you're going to get a new teammate every week.

38:05 100%.

38:07 Just because.

38:10 You get hurt. Injuries.

38:13 When you don't fit the system, when you steady fucking up and making mistakes, they find you a replacement as fast.

38:21 As you blink. I promise you that.

38:24 Immediately.

38:25 So stay on your toes, man.

38:28 Stay on your toes.

38:29 So we got Joe Brady. He brings up James Cook's fumble. comparing it to C.J.

38:36 Gardner, Johnson. I ain't feeling that.

38:42 You ain't feeling that? You was there. You was there when Joe Brady was there, right?

38:46 Yes.

38:47 So, I mean, is this uncommon for him to say? Or, like, how do you feel about this?

38:52 I think that's him. He's going to fake it till he make it. He's going to fake it till he make it. Listen, I'm going to call it a spade a spade. Even at LSU, we all know who called the plays.

39:03 Steve Ensminger.

39:05 Hey, bro, let's go. Shout out to Steve Ansmangan.

39:08 Shout out to my old coach.

39:09 Yeah.

39:10 Right?

39:11 Me, I wouldn't respect this, right? But I've had a coach that got on our ass in the meetings and to the media. Right. If Bruce Aaron's telling the.

39:27 Media about, yeah, Tom Brady's not making his read or.

39:30 Leonard Fournette, he had 17 Emmys, that's cool because he said it to our face and he's letting us know he's going to tell the media. Joe Brady's not like that. He's going to say one thing and say another thing when the camera on. Huh.

39:46 He playing both sides.

39:48 Come on, man.

39:49 So, so, so we, last week we talked about respect, right? Like, you know, he's a first time head coach. He's always been a coordinator. So he's always dealt with the, you know, a smaller number of individuals, right? He's also always only dealt with the quarterbacks. I only dealt with the receivers, whatever it is. Now he has to deal with a whole team. And you still don't think that he has the ability to have these one-on-one conversations. I feel like he, he has to have this ability. I mean, of course he's been the OC.

40:18 Right.

40:19 He's been the OC. So that relationship with the offense is there. I feel like he can have any talk with them as much as he can because, you know, your OC is like your brother.

40:31 You know what I'm saying?

40:32 That's who you spend most of the time with besides your position coach and your head coach. You're in a meeting with your OC. Y'all talk about how you can fix certain problems. I just don't see how you can call out your all-pro running back like that.

40:45 Right.

40:46 You don't see nobody else doing it. Oh, besides, well, they're not all.

40:50 Pro, but Harbaugh called out his running back.

40:52 Right, right, right.

40:54 That's crazy to me.

40:55 Yeah, I think, you know, I know for me as a player, I was always kind of like, I'm going to protect my guys. Like, no matter what the situation is, You know, they had things go down in Cleveland with Baker Mayfield and Odell. And I'm going to protect my guys, you know, as much as it is about, oh, making sure that the commodity man look and you got to answer these questions in the media.

41:22 Look.

41:24 These are conversations that I'm having with my guys. I ain't having with y'all. This is all in-house business. All this outside stuff is noise. And, you know, we see coaches, you know, not as regularly in NFL, more in college, you know, say things like this, where you're throwing your guys under the bus. Like, it's been already a week since my man James Cook fumbled the ball.

41:43 He ain't fumbled last week.

41:44 Right.

41:45 You know what I'm saying?

41:46 So it's it's it's one of those things where, yeah, these are conversations that we have behind closed doors. But to the media, they don't I don't need to continue to stress how important not fumbling the football is and bringing up James Cook in a bad light to remind y'all that he's y'all can go find this out yourself.

42:02 But what I got going on with CJ, too, is more about me disciplining him and also about him not making mistakes that's going to hurt this football team. And those things and how I discipline him is going to be done beyond this podium. But just know that I'm handling it. And I think that that makes a stronger statement.

42:24 You know what I'm saying? And throwing two of your best players under the bus. I wonder if it was Josh Allen, would he say something?

42:30 Hell no. Hell no, he wouldn't.

42:35 You won't say nothing to Josh Allen?

42:36 Nah.

42:38 Hey, bud. Let's fix this. That's just talking to him. He ain't going to sit on camera.

42:45 Right.

42:46 He ain't going to bring it up.

42:48 Nah.

42:49 Yeah. I don't know.

42:51 But again, man, the Buffalo Bills, they one of the best teams in the NFL, you know, and it's tough to see publicly come out like this or people saying things like this, but it is what it is. You know, now they got to go have a conversation or not. He the head coach, whatever he say, go. I say what I want to say behind the podium. I say what I want to say in my team meeting. I say what I want.

43:17 We winning. And when you're winning, you do what you want. 100%.

43:21 And guess what? When you're wrong, you're wrong. When you're right, you're right.

43:27 We have a segment. We are beefing. You beefing? We beefing.

43:31 Come on, man.

43:32 We beefing. We beefing.

43:34 We got Joe Buck versus the legend Troy Aikman, man. We got contract disputes.

43:38 You hear me?

43:39 Let's do it.

43:39 Let's do it. We beefing.

43:42 Now, this situation is kind of... I've never been in this situation.

43:47 I can't speak from experience, but just from a far glance and looking back, right?

43:54 I feel like Mr. Eggman beef should be with ESPN, not Buck.

44:00 Right.

44:01 I'm being real. Why?

44:03 Because y'all of us, we both went into... a team where we're trying to get new contracts, right? We're not beefing with the coach. We're beefing with the general manager. That checkbook. Who's writing that check?

44:18 Who's writing the checkbook? So I don't know.

44:21 It's odd for me, right? It's odd even though I know Joe Buck never played in the NFL, right?

44:29 And Troy has... Troy died for this shit, I ain't gonna lie.

44:33 He decorated.

44:34 Oh my God, he started this football shit.

44:37 He decorated.

44:38 So it's like, it's hard because I feel both sides because some guys are better at guys in the media that play sports.

44:48 Understandable.

44:50 I don't know, this is a tricky situation for me because now that I'm.

44:53 In the media space, I understand now. I get it, Jarvis.

44:58 Yeah.

44:59 What's your thoughts on this?

45:00 I don't know because it can go so many, so many ways. Like, cause also when you look at this too, Leonard, like you got, you got to think right. Troy Aikman, like we mentioned is decorated. It's no way you pay a guy.

45:14 No offense to Joe Buck, get your money, man.

45:17 But at the same time, like ain't nobody could speak on the, the, the highest stage for the NFL and, On ESPN, for the NFL, besides a guy like Troy Aikman, a guy who played the game, right? A guy who played the game at a high level, a guy who could be sitting right here in Miami, you know, helping call his shots and build his team back up from scratch and drinking Mai Tais and margaritas on the beach.

45:46 But instead, he in a box.

45:50 And y'all pay Joe Buck first, which also tells me, damn, y'all value Joe Buck more than y'all value.

45:57 My expertise on a lot of these situations.

46:00 Yes.

46:01 And Troy, I don't know how it's going to play out, but my man, regardless of how it play out, there's a network out there that's going to take care of you and do right by you, man.

46:13 100%.

46:13 I don't know if it's a cowboy thing. You know, Romo did it to himself.

46:17 I get that.

46:18 Yeah.

46:19 But this situation with Troy, you know, they paid Joe Buck, what, 108?

46:25 Yeah, he got the big bucks, no whammy.

46:27 Yeah, you know, if they paid Joe Buck 108, that mean how much is there left for me?

46:33 Yeah. Have you ever been on a team where they ask you to take a pay cut?

46:38 Nah.

46:39 I have. And you know what I say? Hell no. Okay. Show me my money. I want my money that I earned.

46:52 My money that I earn, and on top of that, you're not going to pay me the same amount or pay me less than what you pay.

47:01 Somebody in this room that I'm better than. Period.

47:07 That is true.

47:08 I had a situation here in Miami where you want me to take a pay cut to get paid the same amount of money That this dude got paid, that he earned rightfully, whatever it is. But I done been to three more Pro Bowls than this guy. Put up double, almost double mark the numbers. And we supposed to get paid the same?

47:34 Listen, I felt the same way, bro. I felt the same way.

47:39 I didn't want to leave for Miami. I did not want to leave for Miami. That was a situation... with a coach that he just decided that he was going to try to send me to Cleveland, let my career.

47:52 Be die and be over with.

47:54 But when we really take a look at it, bro, we was talking numbers of, of, of, of shit that I earned.

48:02 What does the market say, bro? What does the market say?

48:06 And I feel like with, with the Troy Aikman situation, you know, if, if you're not getting compensated fairly for how you showing up and doing what you got to do, Man, look, Joe Buck would be up there talking by himself.

48:22 I know that's right.

48:23 By himself.

48:25 I know that's right.

48:27 So you never got asked to take a pay cut? Or you never had a teammate that was asked to take a pay cut that was a lot of superstars in Tampa? I'm sure somebody.

48:35 I mean, we.

48:37 All took pay cuts because we all wanted to come back and play with each other. You know what I'm saying? So it wasn't really X. It's just we knew we wasn't going to be able to get the amount we wanted. But to sacrifice that, we knew we had a possible chance of going back to the Super Bowl. So fuck it.

48:55 Yeah.

48:56 You know what? I get that, but.

49:00 I still feel like when you play and you win a Super Bowl, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman have been great together on television. They're one of the reasons why, especially with Troy, the way that he talks about the game, the way that he can analyze the game and bring things forward before the play.

49:16 Actually even start.

49:17 Obviously, we've seen a lot of it with Tony Romo, but Troy Aikman gives you that expertise, right? Through not only experience, but through also, I'm sure he's still film studying, you know, and.

49:28 Preparing and no shade to Joe Buck. Like I say, get your money.

49:33 But at the same time, I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, like, If I'm going to be in this network that don't appreciate me, then why am I still doing this? I sent y'all my number. We not in a contract negotiation. Then y'all go pay my other dog. We both driving in Corollas. Next thing you know, he show up in a Benz.

49:52 I'm like, what's happening?

49:55 Listen, I told you when you're right, you're right. When you're wrong, you're wrong. You're right.

50:01 Yeah.

50:03 Yeah.

50:04 Yeah.

50:04 You know, besides that, you know, also, and also too is like, you know, we, we, we look across the league and we, we see teams, you know, struggling. Right. We see, we, we talked about the Eagles and where they're potentially heading. And then, you know, you look across the, you know, you look to the West coast and you think about the LA Rams and their, and their predicament.

50:28 How do we get this fixed over here, man? Cause it's, I still want these guys to win the Super Bowl. San Francisco look like a juggernaut.

50:36 And we just lost Devontae Adams.

50:39 Well, you lose Devontae. You want some potential fixes right now? You want to fix this thing?

50:47 Let's fix this thing.

50:49 OBJ Jr.

50:52 Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Make the call.

50:56 Brian Thomas.

50:58 Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.

51:01 Jerry Judy.

51:03 Beep, beep, beep, beep.

51:05 Give him a call. Give him a call.

51:08 Mm-hmm.

51:10 Now, I'm not saying they're going to play up to Port High Devontae's plan, but.

51:15 It give you hope. Yeah. It will give you hope.

51:19 Yeah.

51:20 I say make the call. Nothing is wrong with that. Let it do it. First of all, you was wide receiver one, y'all.

51:27 Yeah.

51:28 What you think about it?

51:29 I agree. I agree.

51:31 And those would be three names that I would immediately go after, right? Like with some type of value or with some type of trade offer, you know, the Rams, you notice, and you said it before, the Rams is like a team that want to win now. Like, and this is, if now is not the time to try to want to win, if now is not the time to, you know, put another piece on the board, Devontae Adams is going to be gone for six to 10 weeks.

51:56 a lot can happen, especially for where their season is already headed. They need somebody to help Puka Nakul. Puka Nakul also has been hurt. Missed a couple games early on in the season, right? Like, imagine Matthew Stafford out there playing with, I don't even know who the next man up on the roster is at a receiver position. So, they need to go and try to find some depth.

52:22 And if... I cannot get Odell Beckham Jr.

52:27 My next call is to the Jacksonville Jaguars, who I am almost certain from how this Jaguars fan base has responded to me on Twitter and on Instagram about Brian Thomas Jr. I am more than certain that they would give him away for pennies. They would give him away for peanuts. And that could be a great weapon for Matthew Stafford.

52:50 And it could be a great fresh start and fresh air for Brian Thomas Jr.

52:53 And. Again, that doesn't fix all the problems for the Rams. But that patches a hole until Devontae.

53:02 Adams get back. You know what I mean? And, you know, then they got other problems. You got your guy named Kyron Williams.

53:09 Oh, yeah, Lord. Listen, we gonna start another segment. It's called Shut the Fuck Up. Kyron, I understand you got, listen, Kyron, you got paid. You know, I love our running backs, right? Can you look at how many funnels he has?

53:25 Let me see.

53:26 And this is third year?

53:28 Yeah, let me see.

53:31 This is third year, right?

53:33 Kyron, I don't think you earned that right to say that. Probably on that team, kind of. But you have another guy running back that's behind you, Blake, who I believe is nice.

53:46 Yeah, Blake Corham. Blake Corham is nice.

53:50 Yes, who I believe when he comes in the game... y'all not missing a step at running the ball. I think, I think right now he's overplaying his hand. A hundred percent. Listen, he has 11, 11 formals and eight losses.

54:09 Fuck. Wow.

54:11 Tase him.

54:11 Tase him. Tase his ass. The hell? In three seasons? Yeah.

54:18 And I understand, you know, you made some big plays when y'all winning, but bro, you have to be consistent. Like, Yeah, you might be upset because y'all not getting the ball, but that's not how you do it. If you the RB1, that's not how you do it. However the game goes, it's going to play in your hand.

54:35 You can't say that.

54:36 Then you never know. This Sunday or whatever, Monday, whenever y'all play, you might go out there and play like shit.

54:41 Then what? Right, right. Put a target on your back.

54:44 You're going to look bad.

54:46 Yeah.

54:47 That's why it's best to stay humble. Yeah. Humble.

54:52 You know what your response should have been? Man, listen, we're trying to figure it out. We're not on all cylinders on the offense, passing, running, but it's going to come together.

55:02 There you go.

55:04 Once again, once again, baby-fired-ass players they have nowadays, they feel like they're entitled to say that.

55:11 I will bench his ass. Yeah. If you feel like we're not doing the right thing, you come coach.

55:20 Right. All right, I'll go sit on the bench. 100%.

55:24 I'll pack your shit. Listen, him and Blake Corham is a good one-two punch.

55:34 They are. But could Blake Corham carry the load? Of course. And we just bring in another spell back to kind of do some things?

55:41 Wait, hold on. Pause. I believe, yes, he can. I believe.

55:46 He can be RB1. 100%, he could be RB1. I don't know about carrying the load, but RB1, he can do it. Yeah, yeah.

55:57 They have the same running style.

55:58 They have the same body.

56:02 Yeah. He can definitely do it. Yeah, they're a good one-two punch. They're a good one-two punch.

56:07 Listen, the Rams got more to figure out than just, you know, the receiver position.

56:12 Obviously, Myles Garrett hasn't.

56:14 Taken the field from what it looks like. He's not going to take the field for a little bit longer. Aaron Donald has made his return, still getting double-teamed. Now you got Kyron Williams talking, you know, about– pretty much the offense is not having success because I'm not out there on the field, which is a bold-ass thing to say, a bold thing to say for a guy, you know, when he's out there, he still touches the football in the pass game and also in the running game.

56:40 But, you know, maybe this is what they needed.

56:43 You know, maybe this is a conversation that needs to happen so that Sean McVay could hear what he has to say clearer.

56:54 Listen, that's cool.

56:56 How many times have you went to.

56:57 The OC and asked and he ain't say nothing and the game plan ain't change?

57:02 I ain't have to. I've earned that.

57:08 Facts.

57:09 I've earned that.

57:10 Like, coach, this ain't working. We need to switch it up. I went to the coach during the game and say, look, coach, this ain't working. Now, we could power bounce or we could do inside zone a different way.

57:21 Boom. Boom.

57:23 But at the end of the day, we don't want to keep carrying on this.

57:26 Only thing we're saying is, Kyron Williams, shut the fuck up. That's it.

57:32 That's it.

57:36 Lord have mercy. What's going on in Tennessee?

57:41 Lord have mercy.

57:42 The people say defense is tackled. Jordan Elliott was released after an incident. Rumors say him and Elate Taylor... who was bench, got into a scuffle, and somebody went Gilbert Arenas.

57:59 Oh, my God.

58:00 The age is zero? Oh, my.

58:02 Somebody went age is zero in that bench. Now, listen.

58:06 That's why I ain't never heard of shit like that.

58:08 Now, people at home, it ain't funny. You see us laughing. This is serious. This is obviously serious. So, I'm going to say this.

58:18 I have never been in a situation.

58:20 To go get.

58:20 The gat, get the gat, get the gat. But I've been in a scuffle.

58:26 Yeah.

58:27 But you have to be real teammates, bro. That's what I'm saying.

58:30 Like, see, these young kids, bro, y'all, what's wrong with y'all in y'all minds, bro?

58:34 There's no way you get that upset to go get the oowah.

58:40 What? Yeah.

58:43 Like, listen, I got an altercation in Jacksonville my second year with Malik Jackson.

58:50 Right?

58:50 Our rookies, you know, they were hungry, but you know how that rookie shit is. You had that motherfucker all day. They got you in there all day for nothing. So they're like, oh man, we hungry.

59:01 I'm like, bet. I got y'all. You hear me?

59:04 Me being the leader. Yeah.

59:08 RB1, the poster child. What of the poster childs of the team. I went to Popeye's, got the two 13 pieces.

59:16 You hear me?

59:18 Two large red beans, a couple of biscuits. And I said it, though.

59:23 You didn't get that honey chicken biscuit?

59:25 That wasn't out in 2018. They ain't dropped that yet, right?

59:29 So I'm walking back and now we about to go to a team meeting.

59:35 Malik, who the fuck had the Popeyes? I bought it for the rookies. I'm like, what's up?

59:45 He comes at me. Man, pick that shit up. Oh, brother, I just told you I brought this for the rookies. Now, after meetings, I'm going to tell him to come pick it up. He said, no, you.

1:00:04 Malik, bitch, who are you talking to?

1:00:08 Who are you talking to like that? So, me and Malik, Malik still carrying on as we're walking.

1:00:16 Through the hallway to get to the meeting room. He sits in front of me. I'm sitting behind him. He's steady carrying it. I said, Malik, you must.

1:00:25 Think I'm a ho-hon. You must think I'm a bitch. So now, what's.

1:00:32 The word I'm trying to use? Testosterone. Everything is this. Everything is everything. You know, we can't tell a scuffle. But at the end of the day, that's my brother. That's what I'm going to war with.

1:00:44 We dabbed it up.

1:00:45 We squashed it. It's over with.

1:00:47 Yeah.

1:00:48 But I'm going to say this. It didn't get that far to where I had to get the oowah.

1:00:53 Yeah, that's tough.

1:00:54 You know what I'm saying? That's tough. So I hate that situation happened to Mr.

1:01:00 Elliott.

1:01:00 But the good thing is his coach came out and spoke on his behalf. Had nothing but great things to say about him.

1:01:06 Yeah.

1:01:08 I believe he will get picked up.

1:01:11 It's a sad thing that had to happen, but we all go through things in life.

1:01:17 To make sure we don't do it again.

1:01:18 Now, Mr.

1:01:20 Jarvis, have you had any incidents Any of your teammates, past teammates?

1:01:26 Yeah, yeah, of course. Similar? Of course.

1:01:29 I mean, the way I play the game, you kidding me? You know what I'm saying? And also where I'm from. I've had instances in meeting rooms just like you. And I've also had instances on the field where... you know, some shit going down. And I'm like, bro, look, I ain't going for it. Especially like when I first got to Cleveland, like my arch nemesis was, was, was Mitchell.

1:01:50 And, and bro, we used to battle each and every day.

1:01:54 When I say each and every day, and I got so much respect for him, by the way, because, you know, through that, we ended up becoming closer. We ended up becoming, having a lot of tough conversations about our childhoods, about the game, about the politics of the NFL and all this stuff. but we had to fight a couple of times.

1:02:11 Like we really had to bang a couple of times, you know what I mean? But we never took it as far as like, it didn't take it from the field. Like it didn't make it into the locker room. It didn't make it into the parking lot. It didn't make it to go and get the, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like it was, it was one of those things where.

1:02:27 Look, we're going to leave it here. And next time we get here again, it's up again. You know what I'm saying?

1:02:33 But I, when you talk about, a scary situation, right? And then you also talk about like how to, a way to handle things. And when you look at Tennessee Titans as a landscape, they just won their first game last week against Indianapolis.

1:02:51 But when I, this is probably why they were 0-5. Yeah. There was no brotherhood. There was no camaraderie.

1:03:00 There was, if these type of things happened in the locker room, there was no leadership.

1:03:05 You know what I mean?

1:03:05 Like I play with Jordy Elliott actually in Cleveland.

1:03:10 One of the sweetest human beings I know.

1:03:12 When I say sweet, I don't mean like that. I'm just saying a good guy.

1:03:23 A good guy.

1:03:24 Yeah, please say that.

1:03:28 What the fuck is going on?

1:03:29 No, but when I say sweetest human being, like, he was one of the guys that was showing up in the community. He was one of the guys that was showing up for Thanksgiving stuff. Like, you know what I'm saying? I seen how he interact with people inside of.

1:03:40 The building, right?

1:03:41 So to get out of his body like this, I can't even imagine what this situation was about.

1:03:46 Like, it couldn't have been about nothing for football. They played two different positions.

1:03:50 Right.

1:03:51 For me to go to this desperate measure, bro, like you had to be to hurt one of my people. Or maybe it was about some money. You know, in the locker room, there's a lot of gambling going on.

1:04:01 Yes. Whether that's shooting dice. Cards. Cards, betting, pool table, ping pong, whatever it is. We're going to get competitive and throw that money out for some reason. 100%.

1:04:14 But I'm going back. So I understand Mitchell. You got in a fight with Mitchell on the field.

1:04:20 Yeah.

1:04:20 Have you had a fight with anybody outside of the football field?

1:04:25 Bro, it's a funny story, bro. My guys in Miami are going to remember this. I remember, you know, do you remember LaMichael James?

1:04:33 The running back from Oregon? One of the greatest running backs ever in college football.

1:04:38 Was he 21 or 6?

1:04:39 He was 21. 21, yeah.

1:04:40 6 with Black Mamba.

1:04:41 Yeah. But but so Michael James was on a team here in Miami. And I think I was in my second year, maybe my third year. And by that time, too, like I'm feeling myself. I think I'm the guy.

1:04:53 Right.

1:04:54 But I'm never like I'm very humble. So I don't even leave with a lot of that. I don't even have that type of energy, especially when it comes to my teammates and shit like that. But, you know, apparently because he's an older guy. when we said in special team means he got his own seat. So I sat down in a special team. He was like, man, what you doing?

1:05:12 It's my seat.

1:05:14 And I'm like, bro, this is a seat right next to me to my left. There's a seat right next to me to my right. There's seats all the way down there and behind me, bro.

1:05:22 Yeah. Like he was like, nah, nigga, like get up. Like this is my seat. Like check me over a seat, bro. You fought LaMichael? Over a seat, bro. Over a seat in a special team meeting room, bro.

1:05:37 Real talk, real talk, Chet. Chet, when y'all see this, what's more childish? Fighting over Popeyes or fighting over a seat? I feel like I got him on that. Like, fighting over some food I can respect that.

1:05:50 Yeah.

1:05:51 But fighting over something where 1,200 asses has been, I.

1:05:57 Don't respect that.

1:05:58 Yeah. Listen, it wasn't one of my proudest moments. You know what I'm saying? It really wasn't one of my proudest moments. But at the same.

1:06:06 Time, you know, as a man, you know, I was a boy. But as a man, you know what I mean? Like, you know, it's a respect thing, bro. Like, your name ain't written on this seat, dog.

1:06:16 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I ain't getting up just because you said get up.

1:06:20 You know what I'm saying? But I feel that, though, because it's certain spots.

1:06:23 If y'all don't know this, it is certain spots where the guys that are considered the five-star guys, you do not sit in they spot.

1:06:34 So I agree with you.

1:06:35 Man, that's bullshit. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. Your name ain't on his seat, bro. You just trying to pull some... No, I'm not.

1:06:45 I don't think he was, bro.

1:06:47 Bro, we in these meeting rooms for fucking 10 minutes, dog. It's probably shorter than that. Ain't no way you trying to debo me out of a seat. Hey, bro, get up.

1:06:57 That's my seat. Man, what you on, bro?

1:07:00 Listen, everybody at home, let y'all know. Leroy, Leonard Joseph Annette, I sat in the same spot.

1:07:06 All, every time.

1:07:08 You took pride in that? You took pride in having nobody sit in your seat?

1:07:12 They know. That's my spot.

1:07:15 So obviously, you didn't have the respect that you thought you had.

1:07:19 I had the.

1:07:20 Respect and I respect everybody else's situation.

1:07:25 Where did you sit at, first of all? Where did you sit?

1:07:27 I sit, so there's the front row right here. So I sit about one, two, like four rows back. I never wanted to be right in front of the coach.

1:07:34 Yeah, see? See? You know what I mean? What's wrong with that?

1:07:38 What's wrong with my seat?

1:07:38 You got to sit front row, man.

1:07:40 Leader sit front row, my guy.

1:07:42 It's 6.30.

1:07:43 It's 7 o'clock.

1:07:45 It's 7.30 in the morning, bro.

1:07:47 And I'm ready to work.

1:07:49 And I brought my hard hat.

1:07:51 And I'm ready to work. Ass kissing?

1:07:53 Nah.

1:07:54 See, I would never have to worry about my seat in a meeting room with you because you would never want to sit in the first row. You feel me? So I would have been straight. A hundred percent. I'm a hundred percent with you. We'd had no problems.

1:08:08 No problem.

1:08:09 The quarterbacks sit in the front row. So that's why I always want to sit on the front row.

1:08:11 Of course they do. Of course they do.

1:08:12 That wasn't for the coach.

1:08:13 It was for the quarterbacks.

1:08:15 So if this the quarterbacks, the linemen sat on the other side, We had like special teams, no special teams, so we in the back. And we had all the skills set in the front. Like all the skills was in the front, like this bullshit.

1:08:27 I sat next to the quarterback, always.

1:08:30 Dick Ryder, Dick Ryder, Dick Ryder.

1:08:31 Hey look, 790 catches, most catches in the first seven years of any player in the NFL.

1:08:40 If you like that, you're going to get it, bro. Come on.

1:08:42 I'm just trying to let you know. That's what I'm saying. I'm just trying to let you know. It wasn't about where I actually sat. You know what I'm saying? It's about what I did when I actually got out there. You know what I mean?

1:08:50 I respect it.

1:08:51 So listen. I'll pop it for you too, you know?

1:08:53 Before we end, big game this week.

1:08:59 End.

1:08:59 LA, versus Auburn.

1:09:03 Oh, we need it. Listen, listen.

1:09:05 I can tell y'all this was a playoff.

1:09:07 Well, I was a playoff lineman in college.

1:09:08 I was just seven-wall lineman, New Orleans lineman.

1:09:13 Booger Nation.

1:09:14 Booger Nation. Yeah, yeah. Y'all know.

1:09:16 If you know, you know. Is Booger Nation still standing? Is they still up? The Booger Hive?

1:09:22 We'll talk about it off screen. Well, listen.

1:09:28 Well, listen, listen.

1:09:31 As I remember my Auburn game, this was my coming out party.

1:09:35 That's right.

1:09:35 This would introduce Leonard Fournette to NCAA football.

1:09:41 Right?

1:09:42 My freshman year, Auburn beat the shit out of us. They whooped the shit out of us. It had a safety number 29 or number 28. I will never forget this. He was talking shit. It was saying, oh, they got Leonard Fennett. The reporter said, well, they got Leonard Fennett. That boy said, who is that?

1:10:07 Huh? Ooh, talking cash money shit like that? That young man said, who is that?

1:10:14 I'm talking about the whole week, coaches, they're disrespecting you, Leonard.

1:10:20 You know, they're trying to amp you up in college. They're trying to psych y'all. But you know, I'm a real nigga.

1:10:24 I don't care.

1:10:24 I'm going to do me. Boy, I'm telling you, even though I ain't short, I was so fucking mad that boy said that.

1:10:34 It was personal. Oh, man.

1:10:35 He made it personal. Guess what?

1:10:39 When we show this clip of the guy that was on my neck who made a business decision to jump on my.

1:10:45 Neck when he could have just tackled me, he's a ho. Man.

1:10:50 Hey, bro, your first carry against Arbor was like... 70, 80 yards. 80 yards, and your ass got tackled on the two-yard line.

1:11:00 You're sad. I was tired, bro.

1:11:03 You're sad.

1:11:03 But also, also, also, the guy that called me.

1:11:06 Time out, time out. The guy that called me was an Olympian, too. I want you to understand that.

1:11:09 I don't care nothing about none of that.

1:11:11 You got caught on the two-yard line, and somebody else going to score the touchdown.

1:11:15 How crazy is that?

1:11:16 I'm not.

1:11:16 Listen, team sport. You can't school them all, Jarvis.

1:11:20 You know who I blame? I blame Traven Durrell. Because he could have blocked the guy.

1:11:26 Yeah, he could have blocked him. He just let him go. But that motherfucker was fast. It was number three, wasn't it? Number three.

1:11:33 Yeah, yeah. And then Brian Harris scored.

1:11:36 He was fast as hell. But I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this. Tigers, we need this win.

1:11:42 No, it's huge.

1:11:43 It's huge. This to even out the playing field. Listen, what they say, set the market. This about to set the market.

1:11:51 Yeah.

1:11:51 No, facts. You know, listen.

1:11:54 When I say this is personal, for us, you came out against Auburn. I came out against Auburn on special teams.

1:12:00 I forgot that big-ass hit.

1:12:04 Two of them back-to-back. So that's the type of energy. That's the type of tenacity. That's the type of passion.

1:12:12 That's the type of putting it on the line that I want to see out there this week. You know what I'm saying?

1:12:16 We're going to shake y'all hair, Auburn, because y'all did right.

1:12:19 You know what I'm saying? Not a lot of teams got them two losses. Just like us.

1:12:23 But, you know, we got to kick y'all in the ass, too, because we really, really need this one.

1:12:29 100%.

1:12:29 Let's go, Lane Kiffin.

1:12:31 So, listen, listen.

1:12:33 Hope y'all enjoyed the show. Many more to come. This is 4th and South. The energy, the love, the boys, the Bayou boys.

1:12:44 What's that?

1:12:45 When Buddy flew around your neck, what was you thinking? Like, did you knew you was, like, going to stay up and not, like, fall down?

1:12:54 Like, what was going through your head?

1:12:57 Listen, let y'all know this at home.

1:12:59 I didn't realize what I'd done after the game until I went home and watched, like, the highlights.

1:13:05 So, I'm like … You tried to hog tie you like R.

1:13:07 Kelly.

1:13:08 So … That boy tried to ride a whole bull. That boy tried to jump on your back. He tried it all the time.

1:13:28 Everybody at home, bro.

1:13:30 Let me finish. I didn't know what happened after the game.

1:13:34 Yeah.

1:13:36 But that R. Kelly phrase and I was crazy.

1:13:39 But.

1:13:43 Everybody at home, bro, put this out. We appreciate y'all for tuning in. Please comment, share, like, subscribe.

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1:13:54 Share y'all favorite Auburn moments in the chat, man. Favorite things against Auburn, man. We got a lot of history against Auburn. Even though they've always played us tough, we found ways to win a lot of good moments. I remember Demarius Byrd Touchdown in the corner.

1:14:13 I remember you.

1:14:15 Number two.

1:14:16 Yeah, number two.

1:14:16 Yeah, I remember you, bro. And we had a great time against Auburn. So, you know, man, favorite moments against Auburn in the chat, man. And we'll see y'all next week.