BEST OF THE HERD – Jordan Love Is UNDERRATED | Bears Are Super Bowl Contenders | Blazing 5: Ravens at Bills, Chiefs at Broncos, Bears at Seahawks

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You know Jordan loves good.

He got the defensive coordinator and the passing game coordinator for the Carolina Panthers fired this morning. He did.

What you watched last night, and I don't think either of these teams is great. Are they good? That's debatable.

What you watched is professional quarterback play. Green Bay is 29th ranked O-line. You have to go back to the 1946 Baltimore Colts to find a run game in the league this bad. Lead the NFL in penalties and drops. Both their star receiver left the field in an ambulance.

Fumbled twice.

And oh, by the way, with the Packers, there's no such thing as a chip shot. Even short interceptions. Field goals and PATs are a real struggle. And yet Jordan love behind this whole line with no run game, number one in the league in passing yards, passing touchdowns, big pass throws and big time throws. How's that possible? His ability to be the lighthouse. There's a storm around him.

He's standing tall. He's the light because the green Bay has got a million problems and he's not phased by any of them. I mean, they, Their run game is so bad. Last night, first team league history to have a winning record and to rush for fewer than 500 yards through eight games. So Jordan Love is the exception to my rule. Please have him throw over 40 times a game. Every other quarterback, I don't want you to have more than 34 throws. The numbers tell you if you throw more than 40 times, it's a disaster, except Jordan Love.

Here's the other thing I love.

When Aaron Rodgers' teammates let him down, oh, you knew it. The body language, snarky, the moods. This guy's entire franchise has let him down.

Total pro. Not burdened with it. No big deal. Aaron wore it like a scarlet letter. You'd never know.

So no quarterback in the league this year has dealt with more negativity and crap than he has.

Most penalties, most drops.

Uh, you know, the knock is the coach, you know, they, they're not great in fourth quarter situations. It's it's in, by the way, the bears are adding Jeffrey Simmons, uh, and they're just adding more on Jordan loves plate.

So it's, it's almost inconceivable. He has the shortest.

This is weird. He has the shortest time to throw. That's how bad the old line is. He has the shortest time to throw in the league yet leads the NFL in explosive plays. That doesn't make that'd be like leading the NFL in fumbles and being.

12 and oh, that doesn't make any sense.

So I just think he is, he is taking an extremely ordinary script and creating a pretty good movie. I don't think the Packers are great. I don't think they can be great. They do too many things historically that make you lose games, but he is the only quarterback in the league. Now, please throw over 40 times.

He has got nothing to work with here.

And here's Matt LaFleur after a semi-impressive win over Carolina.

I know who he is, and I know he'll learn from that. But I thought outside of that play, I can't say enough great things about him because he's carrying the burden of everything right now. Just, you know, just dealing the ball and throwing a lot of great passes.

So yesterday, the Packers... the Chicago bears.

Went all in by getting not only the best defensive tackle in the sport, just to give you a sense of how good Jeffrey Simmons is last three years. He's the best defensive tackle against the run. And he has the most sacks. Micah Parsons is good on third and long. That's when he's good. Jeffrey is your ace, your middle reliever, your setup guy, and your closer. He does everything well. Now, there are critics that say he's 29, that's old for a guy in the trenches, and you're giving up first-round picks. Okay, so first of all, he's not just the best interior D lineman against the pass and the run.

Six-time captain, great in the locker room. Okay, people.

It's like collecting coins. One out of a thousand may be worth something. Mostly they're just, you know, nickels and dimes and coins collecting first round picks, especially mid do late first round picks.

You got to get over it. I'll give you an example.

The classic late first round pick is Josh Simmons of Kansas city. Whatever the reasons he can't get on the field. Or it's Keon Coleman, the receiver for Buffalo, who was actually the top pick in the second round. It's a guy that's really talented, but really immature. So historically, the way general managers look at late first round picks, they'd like to trade them because what they are is their first round talents with red flags, immaturity issues, or their first round picks that have a bust potential. Lance Erlein was talking about it this morning. The Bears currently would have the 28th pick in the draft. And he went and showed everybody the last four years of 28 picks in the draft. And outside of Caleb Lomu for New England,

who should be a starting tackle, it's a bunch of guys you don't know who they are.

Right?

So late first round picks, the Bears gave up two of them. And we've said this, GMs would rather trade all of those away and get another third round pick, second round pick. Those are, it's a bad place to be. You have to overpay and they're usually first round talent with a red flag or an injury history or something.

Here's the other thing. The bears need somebody who's good. Now they need somebody who can deliver two sacks Monday night against the Seahawks. Somebody who will be double teamed Monday night against the Seahawks. And this guy's been in an NFL weight room for eight years, but because he played at Mississippi state and then the Titans, you just don't pay attention to him. He is Aaron Donald dominating, but the games are, I mean, I couldn't even tell you the last time the Titans had a national TV game.

I think it was two or three years ago. So the other thing is about Jeffrey Simmons. He's one of these rare players. Calvin Johnson was like this, the receiver for Detroit. He works with any coordinator, every coordinator and head coach they've had in Tennessee. He's their best player. In fact, in 2020, they didn't even have a defensive coordinator.

He was great that year too. He's coordinator proof. Do you know how few players in the NFL are coordinator and head coach proof as like 12, I mean, even Caleb Williams, as good as he is, limitations with Mattie Robles. So, and again, this is the key. The last three years, he's the number one run stopper, like as a defensive tackle.

In the last two years, he has the most sacks. So a lot of these edge rush guys like Micah Parsons get all this love and flavor. But Micah's good on third and long. Micah can't defend the run. They tried him at linebacker. It didn't work there. He was too reactionary. He was too slow. Didn't see the play develop.

Simmons is everything you want. Plus, he's a team captain guy. But I also think there's a truth about the NFL. And about three teams at any one time in the NFL have the Powerball ticket. Here's the Powerball ticket. superstar young offensive coach and superstar athlete at quarterback with a couple of weapons the bears have that ben johnson may be right now as good as any coach in the league offensively caleb is certainly the most talented young quarterback in the league i don't consider josh allen a kid anymore and they've drafted well enough offensively i mean they've hit on almost every offensive draft pick they've hit on so let's just go spend money on the best defensive player in the league I have no problem with it. That,

that is the Powerball ticket that about three teams have in the league at any given time, superstar, young offensive coach, superstar quarterback, and enough weapons where you don't have to buy them. You've got them in house. That's when you go, that's when you go buy, you know, I don't care if it's a miles Garrett, it's an Aaron Donald, it's a Jeffrey Simmons that it, because Superbowl windows close very quickly in this league. And it's the only professional sport in the world. There is a hundred percent injury rate.

Everybody gets hurt. Caleb Williams never gets hurt.

And then he got hurt.

Everybody gets hurt. So these Superbowl windows, the variables change weekly. When you get that Willy Wonka ticket, that Powerball ticket, brilliant coach, rookie contract, superstar quarterback, and enough weapons, you don't have to buy them.

You do this deal.

By the way, Quentin Nelson, who just faced Jeffrey Simmons, best guard in the league a couple weeks ago, is facing him again on Monday night as the Bears face the Seahawks.

I mean, he's an amazing football player and competitor. And yeah, I was like, man, can't get away from this guy. So yeah, it'll be another battle against him this week.

I like draft picks but the Rams went seven years without a first round pick and got to the Super Bowl twice so you know giving up sauce Gardner for two first round picks that I'd push back on Jeffrey Simmons by the way Jeffrey Simmons with the bears first round picks buried at the bottom of the first. I have absolutely no problem with none. I remember years ago, Pete Carroll gave up a boatload for Jamal Adams. And I'm like, he's a safety. Who's not great in coverage.

Jeffrey Simmons is great. Not only at everything, he's a team captain. He's coordinator proof. And like any time, you know, in baseball, if a guy throws heat, you can be on a terrible baseball team. But if you're throwing one Oh four with movement, it doesn't matter who the team is.

You're going to win games. You have a low ERA.

It's not the way football is that, you know, Jonathan Ogden, remember the great left tackle coach and coordinator proof. Anthony Munoz, the legendary left tackle coach and coordinator proof, Aaron Donald. I'm telling you, there's about, there's a handful of guys at any one time in the league that Fred Warner, to me, with the Niners, he's going to be great regardless of who's coaching him. Not many of those guys, though. So, J-Mac, very interesting weekend. Casey Denver's fascinating. Buffalo Baltimore.

Well, the Lamar Jackson stuff's interesting.

I wanted to float something to you because I watched Bryce Young struggle again, back-to-back weeks.

He did not look like a starting quarterback.

I cannot extend him.

And well, Dave Canales in the off season was like, he's our quarterback for now.

So there's no guarantee going forward.

Colin, I don't know.

There is a quarterback in this Buffalo Baltimore game who may not be long for his city. Lamar Jackson wanted a contract, has not gotten it.

Oh, I think.

Does he want to head South perhaps? Is there a world where Carolina makes a move on Lamar Jackson? I'm just speculating because Bryce Young does not look like the guy.

I mean, this is two weeks in a row, just a boatload of turnovers. Yeah, is Bryce Young a really good bridge quarterback? Not a backup. Yeah. He's too good to be a backup.

Right.

But I'm not building around him with a huge price tag. We have like three different levels of quarterbacks. Like a franchise load up the Brinks truck.

Bridge.

Like I can use you for a year. Gino Smith, perfect. Or you're a backup. I think Bryce is too talented to be a backup. He's good enough to be a starting quarterback, but I'm not building around him at $ 62 million a year.

I can't do it.

He's a Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, $ 30 million. Not in quality.

Let's slow down on Sam Darnold.

Darnold got like $ 30 million.

Yeah, Darnold's worth about $ 50.

$ 50 right now because he won the Super Bowl, but before he didn't have that much.

But Bryce Young doesn't have Sam's arm, his body.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He doesn't have... I mean, Sam's a... 6-3, big arm, big body, run around. Bryce is a very, I would say.

Limited.

Colin, I'm looking at the throw chart.

Zero passes completed over 20 yards through one last night. Now, I know the offensive line was banged up, but he's not looking to push the ball down the field.

How many balls were batted down at the line of scrimmage by him?

Four?

Four tips? I don't know.

I did not see it from Bryce Young. That's definitely a draft a quarterback or let's make a big splash. Canales does know quarterbacks. I think they're going to be in the market this offseason for sure.

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Podcast. Here we go. It is Friday, hour number two. The big talk this week. has really been Jeffrey Simmons to the Bears.

It developed late. Danny Parkins around the corner. Lamar Jackson is going to be facing Josh Allen.

That's in my picks. A lot of mystery around Lamar in the last year and a half, two years. Not a fan of it. I'll say it again.

The knock, John Harbaugh took the hurt, the hit. The coach took the hit for all those blown leads in games. Harbaugh goes to the Giants where they had... number of blown leads harbaugh goes to the giants they no longer blow leads he leaves the ravens they still blow leads at a league leading pace so maybe it wasn't harbaugh's issue it was cultural the quarterback whatevs so off another winning week three one and one last week here we go our blazing five.

Let's blaze it up fire it up it's collins blazing five vikings and.

Lions well i like the hook i'm going to take the vikings plus three and a half divisional game they've won 11 straight that's the best in the league they're tremendous in close games for the last five games have been one score games and under kevin o'connell they're 35 and 13 in one score game so they're in a lot of them and they're good with them Also opposing quarterbacks against Brian Flores' defense this year. Passer rating is 62.

So even Jared Goff of the Lions, 0 for 2 last year against them. Jared Goff, an excellent quarterback, has struggled. Last year, sacked 10 times against Brian Flores' defense. And right now, 34% of the time, offenses score against Detroit. Now, this is a BB gun of an offense. But three and a half is too many points in what I perceive is a very low-scoring game.

Lions will win. Vikings will cover 24-23 Detroit.

Ravens at bills.

I like the bills minus three, eight and all after a buy in the Josh Allen era, they've now got an offensive coach. They tend to love by weeks 31 and six at home over the last five seasons. So a good home team off a buy with an offensive coach and their offense right now is 33 a game.

It's number one in the NFL, the Ravens.

Their second half's were abysmal.

They were last year. They are now lost back-to-back.

Games and held under 14 in both shut out in the second half of three of their four games. Is it coaching Jesse mentor saying this week, we're looking for leadership. Their second half offense, even if they start strong is anemic. I like the bills to win. I like the bills to cover 28 to 23. Chiefs said Broncos. I'm going to take Kansas City minus one.

And a half.

Why?

My rule is if good coaches and quarterbacks get humiliated on national TV solo games, silo games, they always play well the next week. The offense, despite no Josh Simmons, fewest sacks allowed, and that's because they're running it and passing quickly. Their defense number two, their red zone number two, and Bo Nix is not exactly lighting it up against Kansas.

Steve Spagnuolo. Jalen Waddell is also banged up. I'm going to take Kansas City's defense to create turnovers in field position. I'll take Kansas City minus the points, winning 27-21.

Patriots and Dolphins.

People are too high on the Dolphins now. Oh, man, they're starting to play well. Patriots minus seven. They blow them out. They're coming off extra rest. I watched them live. That defense is going to gobble up Miami. Drake May leads the NFL in several categories, and that's without a number one receiver.

At least A.J.

Brown's not playing like it or a number one back. Their defense, two of the last three games, has been outstanding. Miami's got four of their five losses have been over a touchdown. I do think they're playing better now than a month ago. But, I mean, they faced two top ten offenses this year, the Niners and the Chiefs. They got blown out in both. Patriots win. They pull away in the second half. Jeff Halfley's doing a good job with a limited cupboard.

34-13.

Swallow the touchdown.

The better team, the better staff, the better quarterback pull away easily in the second half.

Bears and Seahawks.

Plus a field goal coming off rest. Seahawks playing in their third straight prime time game.

Those are over taxing, heavily emotional games.

By the way, the Bears are 3-0 and average 40 when Caleb starts and finishes. It's a good offense with a lot of weapons. Luther Burden, Colston Loveland. The Seahawks, 12 giveaways since Darnold returned. And I love Sam, but they don't have a consistent run game. Darnold tends to press when he doesn't have a consistent run game. Their rushing grade this year is 29. Not good. We're still waiting for Price to come back. He can be their home run guy, the rookie out of Notre Dame. Again, these are emotional primetime games.

Seattle, their third straight game. I'm going to take the bears to win a good one.

28 to 24 winning straight up. And with that, we said it is, I moved to Chicago. I mean, you're just, we're scheduling parades now. Let's go to Danny Parker.

Calling all sports fans, calling.

All sports fans.

It's time to park it for parking.

He is joining us, the former Chicago radio legend. Okay, I thought there was something very funny this week. Fans often say, you sports guys, me specifically, you flip-flop. Well, the ultimate flip-flop happened this week. So tell people about the poll that you did this week, the reaction to the Simmons trade. Yeah, so I had gotten, listen, nowhere near enough to even consider reporting on anything, but I knew that Ryan Poles was big game hunting, the Bears general manager, and I knew that, you know, his time in Kansas City, they had Chris Jones. I knew the Bears' biggest weakness was defensive tackle, 28th in pressures, last in double teams among Bears' defensive tackles. So I was like, you know what, let's take a shot, you know, day

before yesterday. And I put it out on Twitter.

Hey, Bears fans, how would you feel if the team traded two first round picks for 29 year old Jeffrey Simmons? And over 12,000 people voted and 62% of Bears fans said they would not like it. And many people, frankly, were very mean to me, Colin, in the comments. You don't know what you're talking about. He wouldn't go for two first round picks. The day it happened, I waited like an hour or two and I said, hey, Bears fans, I'm do you like the trade of two first-round picks for Jeffrey Simmons? And 62% said yes. It's a very yes-for-me-and-not-for-the type of situation. And I get it, because it's a huge acquisition cost to go out and get a non-quarterback, but he's a special player, and it's very exciting when

your team says yes. We are good enough to make this type of move and make no mistake about it. It is expensive, but it's an all in move for this year and for the rest of Caleb Williams's rookie contract. That's the window in which the Bears are being hyper aggressive to go win a Super Bowl.

Yeah.

And I was told this years ago by an executive late first round picks tend to be players often talented enough to be the number 11 pick, but they've got a red flag or they've got injuries or there's some emotional stuff. So they drop. They're still really gifted, but there's something there. And my argument is Simmons is not only great, he's a team captain and He's one of the 10 players in the league. That's coordinator proof in 2020.

They didn't have a defensive coordinator. He was still great. So to me, it makes a ton of sense. Do you have any, anything about this move?

You don't like.

No, it's hyper aggressive.

Listen, he's the oldest player ever to be traded for multiple first round picks. That's not a quarterback. So like there is some risk, right? There's risk with this stuff because you shrink your margin for error. The Packers saw that when they traded for Micah Parsons and then he got hurt. We saw this with the Colts last year.

They traded for Sauce Gardner and then Daniel Jones got hurt. So you do shrink your margin for error. But what I would say about this particular set of circumstances is there aren't that many data points of defensive players being traded for multiple first-round picks, and we can go through all of them. When the Bears did it for Khalil Mack, it was the most ever given up for a defensive player, and they had to sign him into the biggest contract ever for a defensive player. They didn't know if their coach was good. Matt Nagy had never been a head coach, and they had only seen one year of Mitch Trubisky, and they were hoping he was going to be good.

The Rams did it for Jalen Ramsey and they won a super bowl, but they also had to trade for Matt Stafford in order to do it.

The Seahawks did it for Jamal Adams. That was a disaster. The Colts did it for sauce Gardner.

Why I didn't like that move is I thought sauce Gardner was very good, but not the best at his position. I had him as like the fourth or fifth best corner and you were backing up Daniel Jones. And so then you get, and the Micah Parsons, You know, he gets hurt. OK, bad luck. But you had also already paid Jordan Love. So the Bears are in a very unique circumstance. We're already into the season. So we know that they're good. To your point, the first round pick should be low draft picks. Their quarterback is excellent. Their quarterback is cheap. and Jeffrey Simmons has already been signed.

You don't have to give him a top-of-the-market deal or worry about a contract holdout like you did with Micah Parsons or Jalen Ramsey or guys like that.

So it is risky.

These moves are always risky, but they check a lot of boxes why this is the least risky of all those times it's happened before.

Jordan Love's interesting. So you can look. And I'm not in any way discounting how good Favre and Aaron were. But there was an understanding. Almost, they only each won one trophy. That's the same number of trophies as Trent Dilfer has. And the same number as Brad Johnson and Sam Darnold. So there's a sense with those guys, though, they had good marketing. They had kind of images. Aaron was this California cool guy on a lot of commercials.

Favre was this southern guy, relatable, the hunting cap. Jordan Love has no marketing. He has no image. He's just a nice kid. And so I'm watching him last night. This team is number one in penalties. They fumbled twice. It's the worst O-line. It's the worst run game since the 19-something Baltimore Colts. I mean, like 1942. We don't know if we love Matt LaFleur. The defense is okay.

Mike is not available. And the guy literally does something that's impossible. He has the least amount of time to throw and yet leads the NFL in big plays. That's I thought that was impossible. Is Jordan Love the victim of he doesn't care about an image. He doesn't have national commercials. He doesn't appear to want him. But if you start looking at what he's doing, he's a lot closer to Aaron Rodgers than we want to admit.

Yeah, especially for Bears fans. It is really sickening that that franchise gets to go from Favre to Rodgers to Jordan Love because Love is fantastic. And I think that he is the number one case study this year for the numbers being a bit misleading. And his numbers are very, very good. But you have to watch it.

To see it.

The Packers have 20 drops this year from pass catchers.

That's the most in the NFL.

The Titans are second with 12. So he's had to deal with 20 drops. His receivers, the next closest is 12. They've gained 150 yards from pass interference penalties, Colin. So he's drawing pass interferences. His receivers are dropping the ball. We went back, my researcher Troy today went back and charted it. Five of those drops, according to NextGenStats, have happened in the end zone. So that is five touchdowns off the board from passes that hit his guy in the hands, and that is.

Not including Matthew Golden's.

Drop touchdown last night, which was not graded a drop somehow, according to NextGen, I guess because he had to turn his body a little bit. He's gotten nothing from the run game. He has gotten nothing. not nearly enough from his wide receivers. As you mentioned, his offensive line is injured. But every pass that Jordan Love throws out there is hitting his guys right between the numbers.

He's been excellent this year.

I hate to admit it as a Bears guy, but he's been simply fantastic.

So the NFL tends to be a buy low, sell high league. And I sold all my Lamar stock this offseason. And I said, I want I like my movies to have mystery, not my quarterbacks.

Is he practicing? Is he playing? Nobody knows. Is he mad at the team?

So they get rid of Harbaugh because he's the reason they blow leads. And then he goes to New York, a team that blows leads, and they've solved it. And Baltimore still blows leads. So it's like, you know, you're going to fire the coach. You're not going to fire the star quarterback. But I said during the offseason, the minute I get mystery and I'm not saying Kawhi Leonard level, but there were moving in that direction where I'm not.

Is he practicing? Is he playing?

The team was shocked, according to Tracy Wolfson last week.

Shocked he didn't play.

That's not good. Where are you today on the ascension? If there is any with Lamar, where do you stand today with him?

If you told me right now Lamar Jackson was going to play every game the rest of this season, I would tell you the Baltimore Ravens are a Super Bowl contender. But I would also ask you, how do you know he's going to play every game the rest of the season? It's just like, I know it's a league where there is injury, but there was a front page article at ESPN.com this week about the mysterious case of Lamar Jackson's injury history with the Baltimore Ravens. And it had a quote in there from Marlon Humphrey, longest tenured Raven, extremely respected player, who's like, we know that if Lamar is good to go, he's.

Going to go.

And then the article has four separate incidents from four separate seasons of which Lamar Jackson and the team were not on the same page with Westbrook. or not he was going to go from injury. And Marlon Humphrey's like, it's not fair. It's this media creation. Other guys don't get it. And then the writer's like, except for. A, B, C, and D example where the team said one thing and the player did something else. So I agree with you, mystery isn't good. But again, he is so special. He is such a singular talent in the league. Honestly, if you told me you were going to get a guy's A-plus game, he might be, because of the dual threat nature of it, the single hardest player in the league to game plan for if you know you're going to

get his A game. They're a contender, which is why no team is going to be able to quit him, even if it is weird with all this injury stuff that keeps happening.

So Monday night football, you get the best defense in the league, Seattle. It looks the part. It is the part.

I mean, they can play nickel packages, their safeties and corners tackle so well. It doesn't really matter. Like even their secondary, they play like linebackers. Against the best offense, Caleb Ben Johnson and the weapons. I like Chicago in this. I tend to think great offense, great defense in the NFL.

Even the Seahawks defense last year, the Rams had no problem moving the ball up the field. And now I get a quarterback playing like Stafford with mobility. How do you see the game? What do you what do you project? What will it look like?

Listen, I think that Caleb Williams and the Bears offense will have more success than anyone has had against Seattle this year in terms of statistical production. The Niners scored 32 points, but they got four takeaways. There were giveaways, honestly, from Seattle. The Commanders scored 33 points. They got three turnovers.

The only team to crack 300 yards of offense against them was the Chargers.

And over 220 of.

Those yards came when they were down three scores in garbage time. So I think the Bears' offense will look better than any offense has looked against them. This was a game I predicted the Bears to lose before the year. Just like everybody predicted, it's going to be Seahawks-Bears-Columbia. Quentin Nelson blocking Jeffrey Simmons. The league is just unbelievable that they get that matchup in this spot. So all I will say about this, I'm keeping it away from Parkins' picks.

I'm not terribly confident that they're going to go into Seattle and win in prime time. But if they do, I just want it on the record right now that I'm reserving the guest bedroom for at your condo or the house, whichever one, a parade weekend. And I've already looked into red-eye flights to get back to New York to do the show after the Super Bowl and SoFi if they win this game. I've got a soft hold on it. They are Super Bowl contenders officially Tuesday morning if they win this game.

Danny Parkins is always, buddy. Great seeing you.

All right, buddy.

We'll talk soon.

All right.

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