
The New Music Business with Ari Herstand· Staffel 6· Folge 43
Is This The Future of Superfandom?
Mittwoch, 26. November 2025 · 1 h 00
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Shownotes
This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Matt Jones, the CEO and co-founder of Medallion, a platform helping artists own their fan relationships and build new revenue models. Matt was previously CEO of Songkick, another direct-to-fan platform that was acquired by Warner Music Group. He’s now developing new economic models for artists to own their fan relationships.
In this episode, Matt and Ari discuss the direct-to-fan experience and why it’s beneficial to give artists full ownership of their data. Matt explains why traditional models like Patreon and Substack don’t fit the creative rhythms of most musicians. They also dig into the shortcomings of streaming and the need for transparency in artist payments. Tune in to learn more about how major labels might adapt, what lessons can be learned from Bandcamp, and why the next decade of music will be defined by artist ownership and sustainability.
- Intro
– Why the term “superfan” has taken over the industry
– The challenges artists face relying on third-party platforms
– How Medallion lets artists own their data and build communities
– Why streaming’s economic model is outdated and unsustainable
– Why Patreon and Substack rarely work for most musicians
– The three main artist revenue streams: live, recordings, and merch
– How Bandcamp paved the way—but why it isn’t enough
– Handling rights, licensing, and label relationships on Medallion
– The future of transparency and fan-to-artist payment models
– Why blockchain and NFTs weren’t the right fit for Medallion
Edited and mixed by Peter Schrupp
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
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