
The Paulie and Dev Show· Staffel 2· Folge 32
GOAT Talk With Wes Bergmann | The Challenge, The Traitors, And What Comes Next
Mittwoch, 30. September 2026 · 1 h 13
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You’re in for a treat this morning, P&D Gang! The alpha ginger himself, Wes Bergmann, joins the guys for a full-on “GOAT Talk” episode, and the timing couldn’t be better.
Wes spills all the tea on the complete timeline behind his very public back-and-forth with Chris Underwood, from the “retirement” comment that started it all to his response on social media, what happened at Challenge Mania Live in Philadelphia this past weekend, and why he believes there’s a much bigger conversation to be had about what makes someone great at The Challenge.
That turns into a larger debate about competition versus entertainment, the kind of players who belong on The Challenge, and why being good at the game isn’t always enough. Wes also talks about The Traitors and whether he’d play again, weighs in on the opportunities longtime MTV cast members have had outside the network, and explains how his daughter Lucy is already securing a bag from her social media success.
Plus, before he leaves, Wes reveals something for his fans to get excited about!
Timestamps:
Wes Bergmann joins Paulie & Dev for GOAT Talk
Breaking down the Chris Underwood drama
The Challenge debate: What actually makes a great Challenger?
Challenge Mania Live and Wes’s pre-written response to Chris
Would Wes return to The Traitors?
Wes on MTV, Bananas & opportunities beyond The Challenge
HOSTS:
Devin Walker
Paulie Calafiore
PRODUCERS:
Pete Joseph
Marnie Joseph
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