166. John Swinney: Identity, Independence, and The Future of Scotland

What is the future of the Scottish independence movement? How does the SNP rebuild trust and support for independence after a series of bruising scandals? Why did the Scottish First Minister feel disrespected by a series of Conservative Prime Ministers?

Alastair and Rory are joined by Scottish First Minister John Swinney to answer all this and more.

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