Claude Design blew my mind

0:00 Let's try Claude Design together. In this episode, I get my hands dirty with Claude Design. You see me struggle. You see me push the edges. And by the end of this episode, you will become a top 1% Claude designer. Claude Design is a best-in-class product for wireframes, visual designs, not so much videos.

0:20 You'll see why by the end of this episode. This episode was a live stream that I did. So you're going to see my first reactions to using Claude Design. If you want to see me do more live streams, more trying products in real time, like and comment below. I had a lot of fun, but if you're not having fun with me, then I'm not going to do it.

0:38 So let me know and I'll see you in there. Enjoy. And we are live. And we're going to be talking about, actually we're not going to be talking about it. We're going to go through Claude Design. We're going to go through it together because it's the weekend, because it's a good product and we're going to see how good it is.

1:12 I have no affiliation with it, but we're going to go through it together and we're going to see what we think. A lot of people have been asking me, Greg, what do you think of Claude Design? is it good i know it's in research preview um and i figure we just go through it together i figure we go through together together it's the weekend and i'll just do a live right let's do a live and see uh let's see what people think so i got the comment section open uh so i want to you know let me know what you think uh what's good g not much let's get let's get it yo how do you pull it up.

1:51 You go to clod.ai slash design and you can pull it up. And together, we're going to go through it. We're going to try to create a video. We're going to try to create a slide deck. We're going to go and create a website. We'll create an app. I don't know where this is going to go. But by the end of this, we're going to know if Clod Design is worth our time, how to use it.

2:13 I'm going to make some mistakes. You're going to make some mistakes. and through that we're going to come out the other side knowing how to use this tool. The only way to know is to get your hands dirty. So that's what this is about. I was on YouTube before and I was seeing some YouTube tutorials and they just, they didn't feel authentic to me.

2:34 They didn't feel real to me. So what this episode, this live episode is going to be is going to be me being real about what claw design is, how it works. We're going to go through it together. And it's just a live demo. It's a live demo. So stuff is going to go wrong and we're going to see it together.

2:53 So welcome, everyone. Let's get right into it. So first thing I'm noticing is, you know, you can create a new prototype. You can create a new slide deck. You can start from a template, which is pretty cool, right? So you can start from an animation, a timeline-based motion design or you can set up a design system.

3:20 So you can create a design system so anyone could create a good-looking design asset. I might want to try this later. This is interesting to me because I want to know if I have a design system in Figma, can I just import it in here and it works? Or can I use Claude to create a design system? say I like the design system Apple can I pull that into here and just get going so let's just say we want to create a new project so we could I need an idea so I'll just grab an idea from ideabrowser.com and I'm going to pick an idea that I think is interesting that I would actually go and build so I'm going to filter it let's say by a mobile app and okay so engaging brain app engaging brain exercises app for seniors

4:18 so cognitive decline robs seniors of independence this platform automatically adjusts difficulty based on performance basically personalized brain workouts for seniors this is probably an interesting idea probably would do well and let's see what it would look like So we'll just call it Senior Brains.

4:41 And let's just ask it to create a wireframe first. So it's going to ask us, start with context. Designs grounded in a real context turn out better. So we can add a screenshot, add a code base, drag a Figma file, a design system. I'm literally just going to screenshot this. And I'm going to see what it comes up with.

5:01 So this is basically just a brief description. of an idea. We're just going to throw it in here. I'm going to say, hey, this is an app idea I think is good. I'm inspired by gamified apps like Duolingo and the BrainRot app. Which has a mascot that and feels just fun to use. Can you make a wireframe that is clear, clean, based on this idea?

5:53 So why do I want to create a wireframe first? Because I don't want to waste tokens, number one. I know that if I just go and one-shot it, I'm going to just end up spending a ton of tokens. And I know it's going to sound like, the tutorials out there are just one-shotting websites. And if I was actually trying to build a business, I would start with the wireframe because that's going to help me figure out what features do I want.

6:21 And it's going to help me just create constraints for a product that I think would work. So it says, what's the primary device to wireframe? So iPhone. So by the way, for those who use Cloud, this is basically the ask user question that they built in here. So this is really cool. Duo Lingo's owl is pushy and cute.

6:46 Brain Rod is chaotic. What feels right for seniors? I think gentle, silly, fun, but calm, never frantic. Which screens to wireframe? I'm going to say daily home, onboarding, rewards, and progress and stacks. Wow, this is cool. how many distinct directions each direction explores a different take on land and field.

7:07 So I'm going to say three. By the way, this is kind of confusing, this slider, but we made it. Which gamification elements, daily streaks, XP points? So by the way, just like my first reaction to this is I'm blown away by how good these questions are. I don't know about you, I'm looking at the chat but let me know what you think of these questions okay, baseline is large text and high contrast what else?

7:38 so that's again, it knows it's designing for seniors voice narration controls would be really cool simplified mode toggle would be really cool high contrast mode would be really cool I want to add that then it says exercise types to mock memory match, word recall, pattern and sequence yes, visual tone of the wireframes so my belief is mid-fi wireframes are bad I think that you want to start with low-fi or go high-fi you can't be half pregnant you don't want to go mid-fi so I'm going to go lowest fidelity I suggest you do the same how prominent is the family caregiver in the main app this is crazy the fact that it figured all this stuff out is absolutely insane how prominent?

8:27 well I'm going to say senior first but family cheer on visible that's a really cool idea I don't know if that picked that up from idea browser maybe it did but that's really really smart okay product name to use in mocks do you like senior brains do you like mind mentality you know do you not care yet what do you think people in the chat let me know I'm going to put senior brains for now what tweaks would you like to toggle switch between directions, toggle mask off, mascot on and off.

8:57 No, we're going to do swap exercise type in session mode. And anything else? No, I think we can go ahead. So let's see. I was impressed with the questionnaire. I felt like it did a good job at looking at what the idea was and extrapolating from there. Like a product manager, that was actually quite good.

9:21 but will it create great wireframes? We'll see and I hope it does but if it doesn't we're learning together I'm going to take a sip of my coffee so what's happening right here it says let me build three distinct phone wireframe directions for senior brains pure, black and white, sketchy, with a gentle, silly mascot, focused on onboarding, daily home, session results, and progress.

9:54 So if we're able to create an app here that is well-designed and we can actually build it using Cloud Code, or you're not going to be able to build it with Cloud Design, obviously, right? This is just designs. But if you can actually build it, I could see how this could be a $5, $10, $15 million ARR business on top of it.

10:18 You start with Instagram Reels and you probably focus on Facebook. The seniors are on Facebook. So I think that there's opportunity here and this would be a business that I would want to create. So this is cool. There's a tip at the bottom. It says, the napkin sketch tool lets you draw freehand, which is great for rough layouts.

10:43 So I don't know where that is. If anyone can tell me where that is in the chat, please let me know. But that's really cool. I wonder if you can use this on iPad. Because I've got an iPad right here with a pencil. And if I can just sort of draw, because I feel like drawing with a mouse, not so easy. But if I can draw with an iPad, that would be really cool.

11:11 So let's see what's going on here. So the progress. So setup file in iOS frame. There's direction A, which is warm and friendly. Direction B, which is mascot forward. And direction C, which is a calendar ritual first. This is really cool because if you were going to go work with an agency, they would probably give you three different directions.

11:34 They would probably give you something like this, where they give you direction. And I'm a co-founder of an agency that works with the largest companies on the planet, building AI apps. And we do do things like direction A, direction B, direction C with stories on each. So I do like that it has that agency feel.

11:56 This is just my first impressions. You're getting my first impressions. It gives you that agency feel. But as of now, I haven't spent one cent on a token. At some point during this live, during this video, we might run out of tokens. I don't know when that's going to be, but from people on X, people are saying that's like 15 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes.

12:19 So we'll see. Let's see what it is. So I'm just going to refresh here. So it's not ready yet. Here you can see the components. So it's starting to come up. Direction A, it's still working on it. So we'll let it cook for a little more. you can see that it's building the JSX with all three directions and the screens I do like that I'll go zoom in a little more I like this useful info stuff just these tips here because let's be real when you're waiting for your LLM to cook it's kind of boring and you might just go and open up X or you might go and open up Instagram or you might just be on TikTok or whatever but you want to stay locked in.

13:08 You want to use this time to do something related to what you're doing. If I'm cooking on the wireframes for this, maybe I'm going back to Idea Browser and I'm looking at the trends, what the revenue potential is. I'm looking at different ideas for the offer. I'm looking at what do people say about this on Reddit and And what's the analysis there?

13:35 And what are the different subreddits? This is easy for me to say, but I would say try to focus as much as you can on actually focusing on your task at hand. Okay, so we have three directions. And direction A is the warm stack. So it's a card-based home with one clear action. The mascot's a small sidekick, not the star.

14:04 It's safe, it's familiar, it's Duolingo, it's adjacent, but it's calmer. So I think that looks pretty good. The onboarding at first open. Hello there, I'm Bean. I'll keep you company during your brain workouts. You got your profiles here, Ruth, Grandma, you can skip. And then you've got your direction C, calendar habit first, home shows today's path as a single scroll.

14:29 So it's less gamey, more morning coffee and crossword vibe. That's kind of cool. So when do you want your daily workout? You pick a time that's easy. How long looks good. I mean, I don't know what you all think. Put in the comments what you think. But they're all really interesting. They all are really interesting.

14:56 Matt in the comments says, after a build, you'll see the pencil in the top right and you'll be able to draw on the build. So that's really cool. I didn't know that. Now it's showing... Okay, we're going to go through the warm stack direction. So it's now given the daily home for the warm stack. So you can see here's today's workout, a 12-day streak from your family.

15:22 I mean, this is really cool. This is really, really cool. This is really well done. Yeah, this is really well done. the direction B which is basically like the chat base mascot is the navigator so it says morning Ruth I thought we'd try a memory match today short and sweet are you ready yes let's go try something else so you go yes let's go and you can see this is really cool like cheering you on so this is like your family cheering you on sending you hearts think about it as like you know you're doing a live stream and people are clicking like like like like or they're commenting or you know this is what that is that equivalent so I think that's really really cool that was your best memory match yet

16:08 you got 11 on 12 and then you've got this journal where you can see you showed up 5 or 7 days your word recall is getting quicker about 20% faster than last month so a little win I think awesome let's go to the third one the calendar habit first the home shows today's path as a single score score less gamey more morning coffee and crossword vibes so the home looks like a calendar basically so you can see in the you know in the beginning you do the easy words then you do the memory match it's kind of cool because you're progressing like you feel the progression i really like this quote here take it easy there's no hurry bean like bean as the mascot is really cool um like we were talking about the claude quick tips here if that claude quick tips was a mascot i probably would

16:59 like it even more. Session results. I do like how gamified this is. It kind of reminds me of this, but I don't know, for some reason this feels a little bit better. And then it's got the progress over here. So my question to the chat is, A, B, or C, what do you think would work the most? Do you think A, B, or C is going to put in the chat A, B, or C?

17:26 and we'll pick that one and then we'll ask it to make it beautiful. So I'll wait a few seconds and see what the chat says. So I don't see any people. Okay, we got A. We got some votes for A. A is pretty cool. I'll give it another 30 seconds. we like some A's okay we got A's so we're going to move forward with A so thanks chat I want to move forward with A now I want you to do a high five version of this you need to be a creative director here I want you to research brain rot app and apps like it and Duolingo and apps like it and make something familiar but fresh something that the CPO of BrainRot or Duolingo would be like, this is amazing.

18:56 So I find that that's helpful just to challenge any LLM, giving it references. Look, it broke. It broke. Look what we got here. We got an error. Not working. Can you believe this? And this is why I'm doing this live stream. Because when you go on YouTube and you see tutorials about this is insane, this product's insane.

19:31 And I've been guilty of this too. Sometimes you don't put this in. You don't put the errors in. This gets edited out. So this is the real deal and that's why we're doing this. I'm going to refresh. And I'm going to say, let's see if I can copy it again. We're going to copy it. We're going to hit send.

19:56 And it seems like it's working. Nope, it's not working. So let's see how to... So it automatically retries, which is interesting. Automatically retries. So here's the debug info. so let's ask it to debug it and see what happens so some people are like am I out of tokens so let's go and see if I'm out of tokens I think it would say something if I was out of tokens so I don't think it's that this is cool by the way the fact that you can have different projects here so I've got this here and I can go and create another project if I wanted let's just do this for fun senior brains funding stuff if I wanted to be if I wanted to basically grab this I'm going to grab this we're going to basically create a deck

21:06 while we're waiting for the debugging We're going to create a deck to raise venture capital. And we're going to see if it's able to do this. Hey, I want you to make a VC style deck that'll allow me to raise $2 million from Sequoia Capital. And let's see what it does there. people are saying it burns through tokens.

21:42 So we'll just let that cook over here. So okay, now we have two folders. We have our Senior Brains, here's the product. Whoa. So here, let's go back into here. Senior Brains funding. So what's the product name? Senior Brains. How long is the pitch? Five minutes. We've got a prototype, let's say. We've got MVP no launch yet.

22:12 I'm going to say MVP. Or I'll just say seed. There we go. Not launched. Who's on the team? Greg Eisenberg. Build out the product and meta ads. Okay. Decas, Desesthetic, Sequoia Style. Yes. Actually, Warm and Human. Color Direction. This is cool that you can just pick a direction up here. I like short topic styles.

22:48 Full Scripts. That's cool. Variations. Commit to one deck. And then let's do... How clinical should it feel? Like a consumer feel, I would say, with credibility. Okay, so I'm going to click continue. All right, so this is going to go ahead and cook. I'm seeing some interesting comments. So Dan says, in cowork, you can navigate to the top left where it reads dispatch and click the arrow pointing down and clear the background task and that works for me.

23:34 So that could help with debugging. It's another reason why I like doing these lives, right? Because it's not just me learning, it's us learning together and we're all sort of sharing tips and tricks together. So we're going to let this do its thing and let's go see if this is still... Hey, can you just do version...

24:01 or let's just do a simple ask. Can you do direction A? Or is it still just absolutely, absolutely cooked? Absolutely cooked. Like, are you good? Are you good? Are you good? okay so you want should we try uh in core this this what dan says uh navigate here i'm gonna put this over here so people can see um in co-work okay we're gonna do this together i'm gonna pull my this is not easy to do live but i will try okay in co-work we top left where it reads dispatch yeah click the arrow pointing down click the arrow pointing down I don't see an arrow pointing down I don't see the hour pointing down click the arrow pointing down and clear background tasks I guess I don't have background tasks on co-work

25:26 so not sure what you mean by that at least on this account oh he says I don't know if it works fair enough fair enough I appreciate you all right so let's go back to the deck stage sorry the deck the deck that we're creating so it seems like it's creating speakers notes which is really cool right So if you're creating a business, you found an idea, maybe it's Idea Browser, maybe you just came up with an idea and you just want a first draft, it's cool that you can get a script.

26:08 And is it good? We will see. And let's see. Uploads. Okay, so I think it's still doing its thing. Still doing its thing. Are you still working on this? Let's see. Yeah, it seems like it's still working on this. It is still working on this. Okay, while it's doing that, let's go see how the product's doing.

26:49 hey can you turn direction a into hi-fi designs so i have one more idea if this doesn't work what we'll have to do is we'll just export it and we'll create a new session and then we'll just say go with uh a but it seems like it's working So let me do the research and then build. I'll look into Duolingo and BrainRide's design language to ground the HiFi direction.

27:21 So I guess the lesson here is it's going to break sometimes and you just got to keep going. It's going to break sometimes and you just got to keep going. But I'm pretty excited about this idea. I don't know about you. I think someone should build it. But I could just see this working. I like how simple it is.

27:42 I like the mission. I like the mission a lot. So I'm pretty impressed. Despite Cloud Design breaking on me a few times, so far I'm impressed. So far I'm impressed. By the way, I see the comments. Greg Hanchin, go Greg, just dropping in to tell you you rock. Thank you, I appreciate that. A LinkedIn user, don't know who you are, what your name is, you're anonymous, but thanks for showing the process.

28:21 I have to go, but later we'll check the YouTube video, cook stuff and keep it coming. All right, will do. Ronnie Parsons, how's it going? Nice one, Greg, let's go. Someone could steal this idea and someone should steal this idea and make the lives of our seniors happier and healthier, which I think is a really, really big opportunity.

28:45 So many people are creating apps for Gen Z, even millennials. But there's just so much opportunity for older adults. They're so underserved as an audience. And I just think, hey, if we're lucky, we have grandparents. and why not create apps for them? So let's go, while this is cooking, let's see if our deck is done.

29:18 Are you still working on this? It just doesn't respond. Let's just say, where's my deck? Where's my deck? I don't know if you can run two tasks at the same time, by the way. This is what we're trying. We're trying to run two tasks at the same time. And I don't think you can, right? Because it freezes up.

29:42 So that's something I'm learning. You probably can't create two tasks at the same time. So I'd recommend just focusing, oh, wow, yes. So that's what happened. That's really interesting. I pressed the task in the funding thing, and this just stopped. and I'm going to say, so we don't want that. Hey, I'm just going to re-say it again.

30:08 So another lesson here. They should say that, right? They should say focus on one task at a time. Because how are we supposed to know? How are we supposed to know? How are we supposed to know? It's impossible to know. It's impossible to know. So I'm going to see if I can just... There's no stop button, which is interesting.

30:38 It just... Oh, well, it did the deck. Okay, so it did the deck. Keeping 58 million minds sharp for longer. Let's see if we like this. Wow. Hi, I'm Greg Eisenberg. Over the last decades, I've built and sold internet businesses. I've advised Reddit and TikTok, and I've spent a lot of time studying where demographics, tailwinds, meets software.

30:58 The one I keep coming back to is this. There are 58 million Americans over 65. There are over 58 million Americans over 65 and almost none of the software they use was built for them. I'm here today to talk to you about Senior Brains, the first consumer brain health company built specifically for the aging brain.

31:22 We're raising $2 million to launch and prove that seniors will pay and pay well and to keep their minds sharp. I'd love Sequoia to lead it. One in three Americans over 65 will develop cognitive decline. This is dope. Today, seniors choose between toys or a six-month wait at a memory clinic. Mic drop.

31:42 That goes hard. Option A, you play brain games built for community years, not seniors. Cluttered, thin clinical evidence. Option B, that's cool by the way. This deck is just kind of over here. Option B is a memory clinic, neurologist academic center, six-month wait time, $400 out of pocket, diagnostics not a practice.

32:06 I mean, come on, this is really cool. What we're building, 15 minutes every morning for the rest of your life, more calm than clinic, more noom than lumosity, the daily practice. America's aging population has been asking their doctor for and no one has built it. No one has built it. And here it is. Wow, it actually did like a mid-fi.

32:30 It did a mid-fi. So the daily coach, the circle. And it gives the product features. The science just crossed the line. Three landmark trials turn cognitive training from wellness into standard of care. Wow, this is really good. So it actually did the research around scientific backing. Wow. The wealthiest generation in history is aging into the largest unmet health need of their lives.

33:02 The adult child is the buyer. Mom is the user. This is really good. The daughter sees a meta ad. The gift that keeps mom sharp. They buy the annual gift. Wow. 228. Mom on boards with her coach. And then look at that. your blended CAC $62, your year one LTV $228 and your payback is 3.3 months. LTV CAC 3.7.

33:28 Start consumer and grow into medical advantage. Wow, and then you sell into senior living. That's unbelievable. We're pre-launch, not pre-product. This is me. I don't have the number one tech pod on Spotify. The Startup Ideas podcast is not the number one, but it's the number one in my heart and maybe yours too.

33:56 So this is probably the best deck I have ever seen created by any LLM, period. Period. The idea browser to cloud design flow for a deck is unbelievable. This is unbelievable. let's go back to see if it's any good at visual design or is it just going to stall but I think we figured it out it did give us a couple bugs oh wow it's already built it I think we figured out that you can't do multiple at the same time too so okay where are my screens my friend oh here's my high fives are these my high fives probably nope okay not there oh here's my high fives okay so direction A let's see if we like this senior brains the daily brain walk gamification with HEP, familiar enough to feel instantly legible, streak XP level,

35:15 and mascot, but warmer. Just show me the product. Where is the product? Why is it not just showing me the product? Is this it? Is this it? I don't see where it is. someone in the chat let me know you know what where you think I should go here someone in the chat let me know what you think I've opened the hi-fi it should be visible now scroll horizontally scroll horizontally it says I don't see it I'm going to say I can't scroll horizontally show it to me vertically.

36:15 Click present in the top right. All right, let's see. Full screen. Okay, it's presented, but it's not doing anything. So that didn't work. Thank you, though. Interrupted by an error. I think because I can't see it in this format. give me another format this is the stuff that people actually need to know if you want to get good at cloud design you actually have to know these little things and I know it's boring there we go so here we go onboarding so Bean introduces itself on step one here's the question big tap targets, one idea per screen, cheerful illustrated chips.

37:10 Bean is asking, what would you like to get a little sharper at? Remembering words or names, focusing and paying attention, quick thinking, a bit of everything. You've got your daily home. I think this looks really good. I think this looks really good. From your family, this social feature is just too good.

37:30 It's cool you can scroll down too. You got your session results. I think this is missing like, share this on Facebook for this audience, right? I think that would be really cool, but TBD. And then your progress. Current streak this week. I mean, this is beautiful. This is beautiful. This is really cool.

37:57 This is, I don't know about you, but this exceeded my expectations. so now let's see how we could how we could let's try to make this better so let's try this drawing thing so I'm going to say or type anywhere to add a note I'm going to say I'm going to make this here actually not over here basically I want to add this share diagram So I'm going to say, over here I want a button, right?

38:37 I'm going to say, tap anywhere. I'm going to say, make a button somewhere in the bottom or wherever conversion would be highest that says share to Facebook. And now we're going to see how this works and if Cloud Design is able to take that feedback. And there's similar features on other vibe coding type tools.

39:17 I know Google Stitch has a similar feature and others. so this is something I like this is something I like to do let's see if that worked pretty nice I mean that's not the default I will say that's not the default Facebook icon but share this win on Facebook the copy is really good I didn't tell it to say share this win but I know as someone who's built social products that millions of people have used that if you say share this win versus share this on Facebook, share this win is going to convert a lot more.

39:56 And what does that mean tactically? That means that you're going to get more customers. So I like this. I like this a lot. I'm impressed. So I can end this stream here. I can end the stream here doing slides and a wireframe and design. or I can do a video too. I can do a video. Should we do a video? Let's do a video.

40:30 So to do a video, let's see how we can do it. Do we do it as a prototype? There's no video section, right? But I think it's going to be a video. over here. So we're going to go Senior Brains Ad. And then I'm going to say, what I should have done is actually, it'll be interesting to know if it can get context for my other projects.

41:04 So I'm going to say, I want you to create a 30-second ad for my new app Senior Brains. you can find the screenshots in the project called Senior Brains. If you have any questions, let me know. I want the creative direction to be cute, funny, warm, and interesting to watch. your target is 45 to actually I'm going to say 40 to 35 to 45 year olds.

41:56 Basically the children of the buyer. Children of the older adult who's going to use the product. Can you do this? hit send. This is just funny. This is just a funny thing to say. In before senior frog's copyright claim. You love to see it. That's just funny. I appreciate you, Zeb. So quick questions.

42:34 Link to the SeniorBrainz project. So I actually have to go to the project ID. Fine. so I have to go here I'll have to go into here into the senior brains now do I go share copy link and let's see if that will work here what so this is always confusing here here is the project what I do find confusing is every time you leave a folder and go back in, it kind of like loses context a little bit.

43:18 See, I wanted to get back to the questionnaire. But when I went back here, there was nothing, right? But anyways, I gave it the... So that's a bit of a miss, I will say. Cloud design, that's a miss. I would have loved to... I would have loved to just, it'd been back, right? It doesn't feel like a seamless experience.

43:41 And that doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel good when that happens. So I have a feeling this is going to take long, by the way. I mean, well, not long. Maybe it's going to take five, 10 minutes to create this. But who knows? We're going to find out together. I've got a solid read on the design system now.

44:00 I'll stand by for your answers on the question forms. Okay, so, but where's the question forms, sir? So it goes, Claude has some questions and your boy is clicking and it's not coming up. So let's see where it would be. I'm just going to ask it. I can't find the questionnaire. Where is it? And it should be able to put it on screen.

44:33 So when in doubt, if you don't know something, just ask design what to do. And that's generally a good rule of thumb. So, oh, stuff is happening. Stuff is happening. We love to see it. So the questions should have appeared in your preview pane on the right side of the screen. Okay. Should have, but it did not.

45:07 If it's not, it may have been dismissed, which it was. Let me just make reasonable creative choices and get building. Wow. Wow. Okay. Okay, sir. I'll commit to a strong direction and expose variations. I would have loved, I don't know about you, but I would have loved to have seen the questionnaire come back.

45:27 I would have loved to have known and actually answered it. Because I love doing the questionnaires. One of the things I love most about cloud design, funny enough, as a first reaction is doing the questionnaires. Because in doing the questionnaires, I, as the product manager, can get so much more clear as to what exactly I'm building.

45:52 Of course, I grabbed an idea from Idea Browser or if I come up with an idea on a walk or something, it's just like a one-liner or two-liner. What I love about products like this is it helps me refine my thinking. And if I let it do all the thinking and all the judgment, then I find myself creating projects and never finishing them.

46:14 And we don't want to do that. We don't want to do that at all. So I don't like that. That's a mis-cloud design. And yeah, that's all I can say about that. So we can see here the plan, so committing it out loud. We're getting a 30-second anime video. By the way, someone said, I wonder how many tokens it uses for the 30-second video.

46:45 I wonder too. I also want to say that it has not asked me for more tokens yet. I'm on a CloudMax plan. I believe on this account, I believe I'm on a CloudMax plan. It has not asked me. And what is the value I've gotten out of this? The value right now has been thousands of dollars, period. The value has been thousands of dollars.

47:12 Did you see that deck? That deck was crazy. The directions, the wireframe directions were on point. And the visual style was really good. It nailed 90% of it. Realistically, with 30 minutes of back and forth and going through it, I could have gotten those app designs to be next level. animations, interactions.

47:33 That would have been really interesting to see. Could have done actually interactions and animations. Not sure, but the actual designs were really, really good. So Ken says here, I'm sure the usage limit is terrible. It was already bad when you create edit artifacts. maybe the Anthropic people are listening to this stream and are like let's just give him some more tokens we feel bad for him we feel bad for him I'm kidding they're not especially when I say especially when I'm doing a couple jabs here at Anthropic people are saying usage on Claude is terrible yeah yeah that is a lot of people say that so let's just go and see what's happening here so 30 second video the story is going to be a character driven slice of life

48:48 we follow Ruth who's the mom and Sarah who's the adult daughter Sarah gifts the app Ruth uses it they connect through it Funny warm tone with visual gags. Okay. Oh, okay. Mom, have you seen my glasses every Tuesday? Sarah Haddad, there has to be something. Gifting the app. Playing. This is interesting.

49:18 Like, it's not what I expected, to be honest. I expected a full-on commercial. This is cool. I could see this being an add-on like X or something, but I can't see this being an add-on. I'll give that feedback. Cool. I can see this being an add-on X or something, but this is for meta. Also, I'm curious.

49:48 can you make this feel more like a real commercial? Something I'd watch on TV. This doesn't feel like that. So we got Danny who says, Hi Greg, just to let you know, I've run out of tokens in a couple hours and I cannot add more. Crazy. Crazy. So these are these tweaks that you can do on the right-hand side.

50:28 It's cool that it has... I mean, this is pretty cool, but it's just... It's pretty cool. I should say it's pretty cool. I just want to see if it can make a cinematic version. That's really what I want. And I didn't do a good enough job in the prompt realistically saying that. so Danny's impressed with Claude design he says the amount of work it did in those two hours was fantastic Tim Park says it's cool but it doesn't slap I think he's referring to the video ad and I agree that is a good way to put it Ida says I love Claude's ability it's Yusha's take, it's away 75%.

51:18 Okay. All right. Yeah, I think, I mean, tokens, it's interesting to see how, here's the way to think about tokens. How much value are you getting out of it? That's really what it comes down to. So, right now, I'm getting a ton of value. what's this work to me a lot. This is funny. Ada says, it's genius, but imagine the most beautiful house in the world, but you can live in it for one day.

52:02 That's what cloud design is. That's interesting. This is hilarious. It's cool watching it work. I have no idea what caramelized onions are, but I keep saying it when it builds. Wow, that's pretty good. I think what you're talking about is when it's writing or doing things. Sometimes it says, Claude will say schlepping or working or doing things.

52:36 Yeah, it happens. Sautéing, right? It loves to sauté. Claude Design and Claude in general love to sauté. We're going to take a quick break. I'm going to do a turmeric orange shot. I'm recovering from a cold. I'm going to do a shot on screen and just sip this shot. Actually, I'm not even going to sip it.

53:01 I'm just going to take it. It's got a really nice orange turmeric vibe to it. Turmeric orange. Look at that. It's got like a crust on the top. It's crazy. All right. Here we go. I just failed to get this out. It's so thick that I can't even get it out. I'm only getting a bit out. A little bit. Inject the turmeric.

53:37 I'm just trying to get better for you all so I can do more demos alright alright whoa we did it we did it turmeric and black pepper powerful yes we don't have time to be sick here we got to I also have apple lemon ginger apple lemon ginger delicious absolutely delicious agreed agreed turmeric color branding with clod on point two hundred percent all right we're going to give this a few more minutes and and I don't even I'm like scared to go even touch anywhere else on this product because I'm scared it's going to stop working I don't know about you that's like how I feel like when I'm on clod design I'm walking on eggshells Okay, here's an interesting alpha.

55:12 Steve Katz, for the hyper-realistic version you want to with Opus 4.7, run the same prompt on Eversince.ai. So I've never heard of Eversince.ai. But this is cool. Wow, this is what I want. This is like the dream. this is I'm guessing using Cdense 2 or similar so yeah maybe you know Claude design is not it for videos yeah let's see what he uses Cdense 2 this is cool wow launch today that's interesting yeah I feel like there's no way that this is going to be as good as that there's no way I would go and download the files here you know what we can do we can export this oh my god here we go Oh my God.

56:34 Oh my God. Are you watching this ad right now? Wow. What do you think of that ad? I don't even know how to get back to it. It's still working on it. But what did you think of that? Did you see that? What is happening? Oh, new version. New version just dropped. Okay, watch it again. Mom, where are your glasses?

57:17 I'm pretty sure you can create audio on... Actually, I don't know if you can create audio. That's a good question. Can you create audio on Cloud Design? you certainly can bring it to Suno and create the audio there and then just put it together it's better but it sucks it's better but it sucks cloud design is not for video it's like okay it's okay I don't know I don't know we haven't spent time with it we didn't do a storyboard and stuff like this.

57:59 But I don't know. It's not this. It's not Eversense.ai. Look at this. This is what we're competing with. There you have it, folks. We played and we tried with Claude Design together. I'm going to stop sharing my screen. And there you have it. We did it in under an hour. Thank you everyone for tuning in.

58:32 Hope this has been fun. Hope you learned a thing or two. My final impression of Claude design is that you should try it and get your hands dirty. I think that the wireframe capability on Claude design is incredible. I think that the ability to take an idea and put it into a deck is unbelievable. I think that the visual designs of cloud design are really, really good.

59:08 I think that it's really hard to do multiple prompts at the same time. So you have to be patient. I think the video capabilities of cloud design is a five on 10 at best. So overall, is it worth trying? Absolutely. I think it's best in class. I don't know if it's the best, but it's... Yeah, I'm going to be using it.

59:32 I'm going to be using it. I think it's, like I said, it's the best wireframing I've seen to date. I'm going to be trying it versus different, some of the competition. I think it's really cool. And thank you all. Thank you all. Get your hands dirty. if you enjoyed this please let me know I can do more of this sort of stuff and I'll see you next time