The Talk Show With John Gruber

445: ‘Apple at 50’, With John Siracusa

Donnerstag, 2. April 2026 · 2 h 34

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Who better to join the show to commemorate Apple’s 50th anniversary than John Siracusa?

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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good (podsearch.david-smith.org/shows/11).

Links:

• The Commodore VIC-20 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIC-20).

• Apple’s looks-good-to-this-day “Snow White” hardware design language (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_White_design_language) from the 1980s, created in collaboration with Frog Design.

• The Apple IIc (oldcomputers.net/appleiic.html) — in my opinion, the epitome of “Snow White”.

• Frog Designed turned 50 back in 2019 (theverge.com/design/2019/6/26/18758789/apple-m…), and The Verge has some amazing photos from their collection, including a jaw-dropping prototype for the Lisa.

• Star Blazers (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Blazers).

• Yours truly, back in 2014, on the Finder’s “Special” menu (daringfireball.net/2014/01/special).

• Yours truly guesting on The Verge’s Version History podcast (daringfireball.net/linked/2026/03/29/version-h…), to talk about the original Macintosh.

• Hyperspace (hypercritical.co/hyperspace) — Siracusa’s perfectly-named Mac utility for saving space via APFS magic.

• ATP (atp.fm) (a pretty good podcast), and episode 683 (atp.fm/683) in particular (a pretty good episode of that podcast, wherein Marco Arment tells the tale of the Mac Mini server farm he built for Overcast’s now-in-beta generated-transcripts feature).

• Infinite Mac (infinitemac.org) — classic Mac (and NeXTStep) emulators that run in your web browser.

• “Can’t innovate anymore, my ass. (theverge.com/2013/6/10/4412350/apple-new-mac-p…)”

• ResEdit 2.1 Reference (developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentat…) — still hosted at Apple’s website.

• SNL’s “McIntosh Jr.” commercial (reddit.com/r/VintageApple/comments/bq4ucw/mcin…), the best Apple parody ad ever made.

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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