447: ‘A Sociopathic Father’, With Adam Lisagor

Adam Lisagor returns to the show to talk about Hovercraft (sandwich.vision/hovercraft), his new virtual presentation camera app for Mac, and how he's developing it with AI coding tools. Also, delicious Japanese spite sandwich cookies.

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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good (podsearch.david-smith.org/shows/11).

Links:

• Hovercraft — A virtual presentation camera for Mac (sandwich.vision/hovercraft).
• Adam’s intro video, on Twitter/X (x.com/adamlisagor/status/2052057904174489723).

• Version 1.1 is already out with some cool new features (x.com/adamlisagor/status/2055046267659817357).

• Theater (theater.sandwich.vision) — Sandwich Vision’s theater experience app for VisionOS.

• Television (television.sandwich.vision) — Sandwich’s, well, television experience app.

• Cursor (cursor.com) — Adam’s preferred coding agent.

• Birdhouse, Adam and Cameron Hunt’s “Notepad for Twitter” from 2009 (web.archive.org/web/20090802142606/https://bir…).
• The Birdhouse launch video, which launched Sandwich Video (sandwich.co/work/a-notepad-for-twitter).

• Daring Fireball: Birdhouse — A Notepad for Twitter (daringfireball.net/linked/2009/04/13/birdhouse).

• Noir — Delicious Japanese spite sandwich cookies (daringfireball.net/linked/2026/05/04/noir-japa…).

• Allen Pike (allenpike.com).
• Allen on The Talk Show, back in December 2024 (daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2024/12/02/ep-415).

• Yojimbo (barebones.com/products/yojimbo).
• The graph I generated (daringfireball.net/misc/2026/05/gruber-yojimbo…), using AppleScript and Numbers, of the new Yojimbo items I’ve created per year.

• Canon’s XL1 digital video camera from 1998 (global.canon/en/c-museum/product/dvc666.html).

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.