450: ‘Perp Walk for Selfies’, With Jason Snell

Jason Snell returns to the show for a look back at WWDC 2026, and a look ahead to Designed in California (designed.fm), his and Myke Hurley’s upcoming 50-episode Apple history podcast.

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Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good (podsearch.david-smith.org/shows/11).

Links:

• “Designed in California (designed.fm)” — Kickstarter campaign running through the end of June 2026 to fund Jason and Myke Hurley’s 50-episode Apple history podcast. If you don’t back this you’re not hooked up right.

• WebKit in Safari 27 changes and notes, from the WebKit blog (webkit.org/blog/17967/news-from-wwdc26-webkit-…).

• Helium (helium.computer) — My favorite Chromium browser for the Mac. Fast, free, no bloat.

• Camino (caminobrowser.org) — An open source Mac-assed web browser based on the Mozilla engine from the 2000s. Last updated in 2012, but, blessedly, the website still works. When it was discontinued I described it as (daringfireball.net/linked/2013/05/31/camino) “like a glass of ice water on a hot day for Mac users who wanted a modern but Mac-like browser in the early years of Mac OS X.”.

• Photos of John Ternus and Tim Cook at Apple’s WWDC post-Keynote “Tech Talk”:
• Mine (mastodon.social/@gruber/116716136011031585).

• Federico Viticci’s (mastodon.macstories.net/@viticci/1167160537552…).

• Jason on BBEdit 16 (sixcolors.com/post/2026/05/bbedit-16-offers-sp…), the world’s greatest text editor.

• Jason, writing at Macworld, on the foundation of Apple’s OS 27 updates (sixcolors.com/post/2026/05/bbedit-16-offers-sp…).

• Jason, writing at Macworld, on Mac OS X Snow Leopard back in 2009 (macworld.com/article/3162444). (The update cost $29 — which we thought was cheap, because previous Mac OS X updates cost $129.)

• Boston College’s Schiller Institute for Integrated Science and Society (bc.edu/bc-web/bcnews/campus-community/announce…).

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.