XBOW Founder: “Your Infrastructure is Not Safe” | EP 28

This Week In Startups is made possible by:PaypalToday’s show:XBOW’s AI has held the top rank on the HackerOne leaderboard for more than a year. On TWiAI, founder Oege de Moor (who also built GitHub Copilot) tells us that no one’s infrastructure is truly safe anymore, now that open-weight models are trailing the American frontier by only a couple of months. Staging a serious cyberattack is now cheap and accessible, with attackers able to get dangerously solid results quickly from relatively cheap, open-source options from China.Guests:Runbin Dong on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/runbindongScale Social: scalesocial.ai/Oege de Moor on X: x.com/oegerikusXBOW: xbow.com/Relevant LinksWSJ: Nvidia-Poolside deal: wsj.com/tech/ai/nvidia-is-spending-6-billion-t…: poolside.ai/Silicon Angle: Nvidia in talks to invest in Perplexity: siliconangle.com/2026/08/24/nvidia-reportedly-…: perplexity.ai/Bloomberg: Chinese hackers using DeepSeek: bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-24/chinese…: Groq 3 LPX enters full production: nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-groq-3-lpx-n…: Groq-Nvidia acqui-hire deal: cnbc.com/2025/12/24/nvidia-buying-ai-chip-star… on early Jalapeño results: openai.com/index/jalapeno-first-results/Stanley Druckenmiller WSJ op-ed: wsj.com/opinion/let-the-bond-market-speak-8152… confirms op-ed was authored with AI: notus.org/media/stanley-druckenmillers-wsj-op-…: pangram.com/Alabama AG: OpenAI subpoena announcement: alabamaag.gov/attorney-general-marshall-launch… Alpha on OpenRouter: openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alphaApple: M6 and M5 Ultra press release: apple.com/newsroom/2026/08/apple-introduces-m6… to 5 Mac: M5 Mac Studio launch: 9to5mac.com/2026/08/25/apple-unveils-next-gene… on X: Ubiquity comments: x.com/dhh/status/2087272392557007042Shane Parrish on X: Ubiquiti Wi-Fi set-up: x.com/shaneparrish/status/2088672566558761065T… Today's guests: Runbin Dong (Scale Social) and Oege de Moor (XBOW)2:12 Open-weight models are right behind the frontier8:22 Your infrastructure is not ready for what's coming13:07 Nvidia's Perplexity announcement16:43 Spending $2K/month on AI tools per employee21:59 Why security teams have to lean on AI25:19 The Great Chip Land Grab32:02 Jason's multi-agent restaurant-style workflow34:54 AI ghostwriting is lip syncing45:18 Are rogue AI agents breaking the law?52:38 The dangers of using a stealth model58:57 Apple's new M5 Mac Studio1:06:43 Everyone's fav AI tool of the momentSubscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter: ticker.thisweekinstartups.comCheck out the TWIST500: twist500.comSubscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple: rb.gy/v19fcpFollow Lon:X: x.com/lonsFollow Jason:X: twitter.com/JasonLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanisCheck out all our partner offers: partners.launch.co/Great TWIST interviews: Will Guidara, Eoghan McCabe, Steve Huffman, Brian Chesky, Bob Moesta, Aaron Levie, Sophia Amoruso, Reid Hoffman, Frank Slootman, Billy McFarlandCheck out Jason’s suite of newsletters: substack.com/@calacanis