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With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life.
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It’s Not Good for Man to be Alone
Lament is a spiritual practice, and grief is a holy work. But how does this relate to the topic of loneliness? Because some of us love giving God our ideas but not our tears. You may not receive the comfort and peace you want because you’re
When You’re Lonely by Design and by Choice
Even when we're surrounded by people, we can still feel deeply alone. Loneliness will have you wondering, “Will anyone ever fully see me, know me, and love me in light of what they see?” In this conversation, Jackie and Preston discuss the
Imprecatory Prayers, Friendship, and Jesus with Nona Jones
What do you do with the pain that remains after you’ve forgiven someone? If we look to the Bible for guidance, we see that one-third of the Psalms are “imprecatory prayers,” or prayers for justice or vengeance. It’s in those prayers that we
From Dust to Dust: A Conversation with Jen Wilkin on the Theology of Aging
What does the Bible teach us about aging, and how might our perspective change if we viewed getting older through a theological lens rather than a cultural one? Preston and Jackie sit down with Jen Wilkin to discuss what Scripture says on t
Moving from Bitterness to Resilience with Toni Collier
Pain changes us, and it can make us bitter before it makes us resilient. We can also become more attached to our pain than to our Savior, and that’s idolatry. Toni Collier joins the Perrys to talk about what bitterness looks like and what i
Gangs, Sinless Perfection, and Throwing Hands: Storytime with The Perrys
Y’all love a “storytime” episode and it’s been a while since the Perrys recorded one. The Perrys cover a wide range of topics, from legalism and the idea of “sinless perfection” to stories about identity, “hood” dynamics, and pretending to
Healing Mother Wounds with Dr. Sarita Lyons
We hear a lot about people experiencing “father wounds” but what about those who carry heartache, anger or sorrow because of a wounding mother? When Dr. Sarita Lyons joined Jackie for the Glory Conference in 2023, an attendee asked about na
A Church Divided Cannot Stand with Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez
People say, “We’re more divided than ever before,” but are we okay with that, or are we going to do something about it? Are we normalizing division and disrespecting God by not prioritizing something He does? Jackie and Preston are joined b
Learning How to Think
We have to think about what we’re thinking about. Go back and read that again. Our thought life as Christ followers matters. It’s important we remain vigilant to identify and uproot the lies we’re believing, and to do that continually in co
The Work of Mind Renewal
Jackie and Preston are back with new episodes, and they’re kicking things off with a two-part conversation on the battlefield of the mind. Our minds have a lot to say, all the time. What we think about – and ultimately what we believe becau
Deep Dive: Encouragement for the Weary
To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. What d
Deep Dive: Raising Kids to Know and Follow Jesus
To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. In thi
Deep Dive: The Gospel, Evangelism & Making Disciples
To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. In thi
Best of WTP – That Time We Broke Up... Twice
With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Jackie and Preston's relationship has had plenty of twists and turns. From long distance dating to a group trip to the Caribbean, things didn't get
Best of WTP – How to Fight For Your Marriage
With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Jackie and Preston sit down with mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien to talk about what it really looks like to fight for intimacy in marriage
Best of WTP – Depression, Suffering, and the Faithfulness of God's Presence
TRIGGER WARNING: This episode discusses suicidal ideation. With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Brenna Blain is a wife, mom, and theologian who talks honestly about faith, suffering, a
Let’s Talk About Deconstruction
Nobody “deconstructs” from Christianity in a day. Deconstruction is not an immediate decision but a process in which someone questions, dissects and assesses what they believe. But what some people are calling deconstruction is actually her
When the Leaders We Love Fail Us
From public scandals to private betrayals that never make the news, experiencing the failure of a leader is both heartbreaking and disorienting. When someone leads a church community or is esteemed as a hero, the fallout of their failure is
How to be a Christian When Persecuted
Earlier this month, Jackie found herself at the center of a Threads post that generated a whole lot of conversation. It got her and Preston thinking about the opposition we face as Christians because of a worldview that is confusing to unbe
The Lie Shame Tells Us
A stronghold is an untruth that has lodged itself in our brains and keeps out the knowledge of God. Shame can be a stronghold if we are believing something that is literally not the truth – about God, ourselves, or others. So really, shame
When You Don't Desire God
We all go through seasons where we have little desire for God. We don’t really want to pray, and reading our Bible doesn’t sound exciting. Being honest about not wanting God isn’t unbelief, but it may uncover areas of our life where we’re b
Let’s Talk About Covetousness
When you hyper-focus on what you think you lack, you aren’t practicing gratitude, and you can become discontent. When you covet what someone else has, you will start to believe that God is withholding something good from you. That means our
Legalism, Sexual Immorality, and Heaven: Listener Q&A
Y’all love a Q&A episode, so the Perrys asked Instagram followers to submit questions to help guide the topics of conversation. Jackie kicks things off with a “storytime” moment about an unforgettable (and not in a great way) evangelism exp
Discipling Our Kids with the Krugers
The Perrys are joined by Melissa and Mike Kruger to discuss their new book “The Good News Family Devotional: 52 Weeks Through the Gospel of Mark.” Mark is fast-paced and story-centric, which makes it an ideal book to study alongside your ki
Christians, It’s Time to Grow Up
When we’re “born again” as Christ followers, we’re babies, and “growing up” is a choice. But emotions, pride, and an endless buffet of online voices can keep new believers spiritually stuck. In this episode, Jackie and Preston discuss how s
Mourning, Meekness, and Mercy: Part 2 with Matt Chandler
The second half of the Perrys’ conversation with Matt Chandler is a deeper discussion of the Beatitudes of Matthew 5. For example, the Bible says, “Blessed are those who mourn,” but what are we to mourn, and how do we mourn well? Matt expla
Becoming like Jesus with Matt Chandler: Part 1
After more than two decades leading a church – and through his own faith journey, too – Pastor Matt Chandler says confidently that, “Come what may, God is at work.” In this conversation on sanctification, Matt, Jackie and Preston explore th
For Your Glory: Why and How We Worship with Trip Lee
Trip Lee is an author, teacher, and hip-hop artist who recently released new worship music titled “For Your Glory.” He joins Jackie and Preston for a conversation about worship music, rap music, and the importance of music in our lives as f
Sex, Sexual Trauma, and God’s Design with Dr. Juli Slattery
Sex is a living metaphor. It’s how we experience oneness with the person we’ve committed to be in a covenant relationship with, similar to the relationship between Christ and the church. Dr. Juli Slattery joins the Perrys to discuss the imp
On Leadership, Assignment, and Brokenness with Dr. Crawford Loritts
Dr. Crawford Loritts joins the Perrys for a conversation about leadership and the qualities that make someone worth following. True leadership is stewardship and sacrifice. Someone’s ability to lead is in direct proportion to their ability