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With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life.

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  1. It’s Not Good for Man to be Alone

    Lament is a spiritual practice, and grief is a holy work. But how does this relate to the topic of loneliness? Because some of us love giving God our ideas but not our tears. You may not receive the comfort and peace you want because you’re

  2. When You’re Lonely by Design and by Choice

    Even when we're surrounded by people, we can still feel deeply alone. Loneliness will have you wondering, “Will anyone ever fully see me, know me, and love me in light of what they see?” In this conversation, Jackie and Preston discuss the

  3. Imprecatory Prayers, Friendship, and Jesus with Nona Jones

    What do you do with the pain that remains after you’ve forgiven someone? If we look to the Bible for guidance, we see that one-third of the Psalms are “imprecatory prayers,” or prayers for justice or vengeance. It’s in those prayers that we

  4. From Dust to Dust: A Conversation with Jen Wilkin on the Theology of Aging

    What does the Bible teach us about aging, and how might our perspective change if we viewed getting older through a theological lens rather than a cultural one? Preston and Jackie sit down with Jen Wilkin to discuss what Scripture says on t

  5. Moving from Bitterness to Resilience with Toni Collier

    Pain changes us, and it can make us bitter before it makes us resilient. We can also become more attached to our pain than to our Savior, and that’s idolatry. Toni Collier joins the Perrys to talk about what bitterness looks like and what i

  6. Gangs, Sinless Perfection, and Throwing Hands: Storytime with The Perrys

    Y’all love a “storytime” episode and it’s been a while since the Perrys recorded one. The Perrys cover a wide range of topics, from legalism and the idea of “sinless perfection” to stories about identity, “hood” dynamics, and pretending to

  7. Healing Mother Wounds with Dr. Sarita Lyons

    We hear a lot about people experiencing “father wounds” but what about those who carry heartache, anger or sorrow because of a wounding mother? When Dr. Sarita Lyons joined Jackie for the Glory Conference in 2023, an attendee asked about na

  8. A Church Divided Cannot Stand with Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez

    People say, “We’re more divided than ever before,” but are we okay with that, or are we going to do something about it? Are we normalizing division and disrespecting God by not prioritizing something He does? Jackie and Preston are joined b

  9. Learning How to Think

    We have to think about what we’re thinking about. Go back and read that again. Our thought life as Christ followers matters. It’s important we remain vigilant to identify and uproot the lies we’re believing, and to do that continually in co

  10. The Work of Mind Renewal

    Jackie and Preston are back with new episodes, and they’re kicking things off with a two-part conversation on the battlefield of the mind. Our minds have a lot to say, all the time. What we think about – and ultimately what we believe becau

  11. Deep Dive: Encouragement for the Weary

    To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. What d

  12. Deep Dive: Raising Kids to Know and Follow Jesus

    To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. In thi

  13. Deep Dive: The Gospel, Evangelism & Making Disciples

    To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. In thi

  14. Best of WTP – That Time We Broke Up... Twice

    With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Jackie and Preston's relationship has had plenty of twists and turns. From long distance dating to a group trip to the Caribbean, things didn't get

  15. Best of WTP – How to Fight For Your Marriage

    With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Jackie and Preston sit down with mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien to talk about what it really looks like to fight for intimacy in marriage

  16. Best of WTP – Depression, Suffering, and the Faithfulness of God's Presence

    TRIGGER WARNING: This episode discusses suicidal ideation. With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Brenna Blain is a wife, mom, and theologian who talks honestly about faith, suffering, a

  17. Let’s Talk About Deconstruction

    Nobody “deconstructs” from Christianity in a day. Deconstruction is not an immediate decision but a process in which someone questions, dissects and assesses what they believe. But what some people are calling deconstruction is actually her

  18. When the Leaders We Love Fail Us

    From public scandals to private betrayals that never make the news, experiencing the failure of a leader is both heartbreaking and disorienting. When someone leads a church community or is esteemed as a hero, the fallout of their failure is

  19. How to be a Christian When Persecuted

    Earlier this month, Jackie found herself at the center of a Threads post that generated a whole lot of conversation. It got her and Preston thinking about the opposition we face as Christians because of a worldview that is confusing to unbe

  20. The Lie Shame Tells Us

    A stronghold is an untruth that has lodged itself in our brains and keeps out the knowledge of God. Shame can be a stronghold if we are believing something that is literally not the truth – about God, ourselves, or others. So really, shame

  21. When You Don't Desire God

    We all go through seasons where we have little desire for God. We don’t really want to pray, and reading our Bible doesn’t sound exciting. Being honest about not wanting God isn’t unbelief, but it may uncover areas of our life where we’re b

  22. Let’s Talk About Covetousness

    When you hyper-focus on what you think you lack, you aren’t practicing gratitude, and you can become discontent. When you covet what someone else has, you will start to believe that God is withholding something good from you. That means our

  23. Legalism, Sexual Immorality, and Heaven: Listener Q&A

    Y’all love a Q&A episode, so the Perrys asked Instagram followers to submit questions to help guide the topics of conversation. Jackie kicks things off with a “storytime” moment about an unforgettable (and not in a great way) evangelism exp

  24. Discipling Our Kids with the Krugers

    The Perrys are joined by Melissa and Mike Kruger to discuss their new book “The Good News Family Devotional: 52 Weeks Through the Gospel of Mark.” Mark is fast-paced and story-centric, which makes it an ideal book to study alongside your ki

  25. Christians, It’s Time to Grow Up

    When we’re “born again” as Christ followers, we’re babies, and “growing up” is a choice. But emotions, pride, and an endless buffet of online voices can keep new believers spiritually stuck. In this episode, Jackie and Preston discuss how s

  26. Mourning, Meekness, and Mercy: Part 2 with Matt Chandler

    The second half of the Perrys’ conversation with Matt Chandler is a deeper discussion of the Beatitudes of Matthew 5. For example, the Bible says, “Blessed are those who mourn,” but what are we to mourn, and how do we mourn well? Matt expla

  27. Becoming like Jesus with Matt Chandler: Part 1

    After more than two decades leading a church – and through his own faith journey, too – Pastor Matt Chandler says confidently that, “Come what may, God is at work.” In this conversation on sanctification, Matt, Jackie and Preston explore th

  28. For Your Glory: Why and How We Worship with Trip Lee

    Trip Lee is an author, teacher, and hip-hop artist who recently released new worship music titled “For Your Glory.” He joins Jackie and Preston for a conversation about worship music, rap music, and the importance of music in our lives as f

  29. Sex, Sexual Trauma, and God’s Design with Dr. Juli Slattery

    Sex is a living metaphor. It’s how we experience oneness with the person we’ve committed to be in a covenant relationship with, similar to the relationship between Christ and the church. Dr. Juli Slattery joins the Perrys to discuss the imp

  30. On Leadership, Assignment, and Brokenness with Dr. Crawford Loritts

    Dr. Crawford Loritts joins the Perrys for a conversation about leadership and the qualities that make someone worth following. True leadership is stewardship and sacrifice. Someone’s ability to lead is in direct proportion to their ability

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