Red Hot Revenge and Ember Island Drama

Water, earth, fire, air. This is what we This is Yep. Hooray! That's our podcast. Troy, you're growing a beard. That I am. Do you have any recommendations? You can't you can't tell, like, there's tufts of hair sticking out of his mask.

Uh no, unfortunately, I don't have any recommendations.

Do you need to like roll your face around in some rogueine?

Hmm. Yeah, probably.

Have you ever tried it? Hold on a second. Oh, he's so cute. Okay. Oh my god. Hey, welcome back to Yip Yipparay, an Avatar podcast.

I'm Jordan.

I'm Katie.

I'm Jordan. And I'm T-Roy. I'm still Jordan.

What's that noise?

That's rain, Katie. That is Oregon sunshine. It is pouring rain. I don't know. There is like we are in the midst of a storm. It is literally raining cats and dogs. There's oh did you hear that?

Meow! Meow! Get out of here!

It's raining cats and dogs. Didn't you did you not hear them? That did not sound like raining cats and dogs. That sounded like Jordan beating up cats and dogs.

It smells like Bigfoot.

Does it smell like Bigfoot?

So we are.

You monster.

That was really special.

That was nice. So here we are. We're at the penultimate episode of this season of the podcast.

Of this really, real long adventure.

It has been a nice long adventure. We're uh this is our 26th episode. We covered the Southern Raiders.

We started this pre-pandemic.

Aww. This has been a wild ride. 2020. Man, you start out doing an avatar podcast, the deadly pandemic hits. Man.

Oh, it's not funny, but.

And then, you know, it got a lot better toward the end. It's still pretty awful, but I mean, there's a lot of light coming in through this darkness.

Yeah, no. People are gonna stop talking about the coronavirus once Southern Comet finally comes.

Well, we're almost there.

We're almost to the comet.

The best thing about the comet, it is it's almost like injecting bleach right into your bloodstream. Wow. So we covered the episodes The Southern Raiders and Troy's new favorite episode, The Ember Island Players. Let's get into it.

God.

No, Southern Raiders. Let's hear it.

Yeah, Southern Raiders. Let's hear it.

Where do you want to start with the Ember Island?

No, no, no. We're never starting with the Ember Island. We are chronological here. What do we think about Katara's revenge mission?

I don't know. I was in full support of it. Why? I just no no. It's if I was good. If I was Zuko and Aang and Saka, I would have totally just been like, okay, I'm very curious as to how you're gonna carry this out. Because quite frankly, as with the times that we're in right now, like, no matter how she would have treated the guy, it would not have affected me.

Like you personally? Yeah, me personally.

Yeah, he she killed that guy. Yeah. Troy sitting here in Oregon is fine.

I was like, well for this show, for how much humor is in it, I'm like, how far will they take the vengeance?

I mean, were you surprised how far they took it? Yes.

This episode is always uncomfortable because I don't like to see Katara so angry. I mean, rightfully so, but it's like just so intense, and I mean I think it's done really well, but I'm happy ultimately with the how the episode ends, but it's yeah, it's just very tense.

It's interesting how everyone has like a different perspective on how to tackle that anger. And Aang becomes very Zen in this episode, almost uncharacteristically Zen, but I guess it's a part of his growth of I don't know. I don't know if Aang is not really validating Katara's feelings in this. But I think it was important for Katara to to physically face that man or the idea of that man.

And I I don't think Aang was correct with just, you know, meditating for a hot second and like letting that forgiveness go. I think for Katara's journey, she needed that. And I think Zuko knew that because Zuko is like, oh, I'm gonna face my my demons too head on. And I think they're very similar in that way.

And as a person who's done martial arts for a couple of years, I've even gotta say what Aang said made almost no sense. It's p just because what Katara's feeling is depression and anger. I mean, she may not have shown her depression, but it was there. And her anger and all that stuff and her resentment.

So basically she's mentally holding a very, very hot rock. And the reason why she needed to see that guy is to figure out how I was wondering as to when she was going to mentally be able to drop the hot rock. Um and no, the episode did not disappoint.

So at what point do you think she dropped the hot rock?

When the shards of of Icicles were literally an inch from the guy's head, it's like she's strong enough too, but she also had to realize she had to be strong enough to let it go.

And that scene's so powerful. It's like stops the rain, you know, and turns those raindrops.

I think that's just you being an Oregonian, it's like extra powerful for you.

She definitely had an X-Men moment. Oh.

Which X-Men?

Uh Days of Future Past? No, no. Sorry. Yeah? Wait, it's the one where introduced to Quicksilver and they go into the kitchen and they freeze all the Oh, nice. That's but I was that's what I was expecting.

But what's Star Wars moment?

Probably uh the Clone Wars, where they go to uh the the rain planet.

Okay. I wanna know how did how does Azula find them at the beginning?

As we know, the uh I don't know, what's their last name? Fire? Zuko and Azula Fire? I don't know if they're do they have one? We know that they're very good at tracking, specifically Aang. Zuko could track Aang all over the world.

You don't exactly see anybody, you know, showering, which is Wait! What? Wait, what did you just say?

You just said they're very good at tracking, like also, they did steal a warship. It's probably pretty easy. We can imagine as soon as they took that.

What? I don't know.

Is this like uh ooh-oh, a Last Jedi moment where they're like, oh, we put a hyperdrive tracker on their ship. Okay. So my my theory is that Boiling Rock, they just straight up jack the that airship. They were probably like sent a messenger hawk. We're like, hey, if you guys see an airship, that's not where it needs to be.

That's who we want to go get. And I'm thinking that's how the because where'd they hide it? Where how could you hide an air balloon? A big Zeppelin. Okay, can we talk about Azula showing up? Like, because again, when I first watched the show, I was all bitter and jaded and full of resentment about them airing a new episode every day for a week up until the finale.

So I was just no episode could ever be satisfying.

I just side note, the way you choose how to resent a show is very intriguing to me. Continue. Thank you.

So I don't think it the there wasn't that weight when Azula showed up to me. Like, I just I think because I was an angsty teenager who had just graduated high school, I nothing could have satisfied me, and I was just so desperately wanting to see the resolution to the story I couldn't enjoy the journey, and I think that's my own personal issue with where I was for the series.

So when Azula shows up, and they start just recklessly destroying the Western Air Temple, it didn't it didn't resonate or hit me. And so it's taken into like the last couple times I've seen it to be like, actually consider like what they're doing. Like they're shooting bombs into the temple. Azula's there to kill Zuko, like just blatantly says that.

Yeah.

Being an only child. And obviously, Jordan's had to learn how to forgive. He listened to because now he's able to watch the episode with joy instead of resentment.

But I would Well, I was just gonna have a little side about when Zuko tries to save Katara, and she's like, Yeah, yeah, you can get off me now.

I'll take that as a thank you.

I know, they're both so angsty.

I want to talk about how they're the Fire Nations destroying the Western Hair Temple, and then Toph and Haru, like, create a tunnel to get out, but they definitely destroy like an ancient mural to do so. And Aang doesn't say anything about it.

He doesn't Wait, how does Haru? Whoa.

How does Haru Haru what is he doing to create the tunnel? He earth bends!

Haru does? Oh, Haru! I am like, no, okay, I'm here now.

That's funny. I'm over here being like, how you guys can how can you guys remember his name? Because I've seen this 70 times.

So they create they create the tunnel. Aang doesn't really talk about the destruction of the art or the architecture or the history of the Western Air Temple.

I think because he probably thinks it's going down.

Well, I mean, in the Northern Air Temple episode, like, he has a moment when they find out that they're putting in a bathhouse.

Fine example. I grew up in this house, but if we were being attacked by whatever country, I would not be like, don't you dare, you know, rip into what we used to mind. That's a good drywall! That was a good drywall. How could you do that? I'd be like, let's get the hell out of here, guys.

Right, because it's like you're being attacked, it's different versus always showing up and it's like and they did a remodel.

Exactly. And can't exactly teach his friends ancient history about a temple when they're being when their life is on the line.

That murals are really important. Okay. Right. Okay, also, where's gonna have a Jackie Chan moment? I mean, were we surprised that Katara and Sokka were like, later, dad? I mean, Katara's like, well, we don't need to split up again. But it wasn't like, oh, you can come. It was like, you gotta go there, but then Suki, you're gonna come with us.

Well, I mean, were they maybe telling Hakoda to go like lead the children? I mean, because like your options are children to go get out and pilot this air balloon, or a convicted felon in Chit Sang. So I think they're probably like the best option for these people to survive is to send dad. And I think the Katara was like, oh, Suki will go too, and then Sokka was like not having that.

He's like, uh-uh, Suki, you're coming with me. Kazuki runs up, grabs her hand, and then pieces out. Didn't grab the Duke, didn't grab Teo, didn't grab Haru. No, they're gonna go hang out with Hakoda and Chitseng, who's on a path to redemption.

Now, is there any mention of where to where to rendezvous later?

No, they're just and you know, they don't have phones.

And Hakoda is supposed to be some sort of military leader. I'm like, how what the heck?

Guys. They were in a moment as we just addressed. They didn't have time to talk about it. Probably, wait, they're probably gonna rendezvous. Wait, wait, whaletail island.

Okay. Also, Azula's like unstoppable. Can we just talk about that? Where they're they're fighting, it's the blue and the red, boom, boom, boom. I don't know.

Blue blast off power.

Yeah. So we got that going off. Yeah. Then they both fly out of there. Apa and the gang swoop in. And like soccer. Katara grabs Zuko.

Okay, it was Katara, okay.

Yeah, and pulls him in. So I was like, well, that was big of her.

But like, don't you think Aang would have, you know, Aang being Aang would have also got Azula? Or do you think they're like waiting it out to see what she was gonna do?

No, but like, the way I look at Azula these days, I'm like, she's like literally like, what if like She's the T1000? What if like, uh, I don't know, um, oh man, what's his name? Napoleon Bonaparte and Jonah Varc have an off-spring. He got Azula. She's just she knows how to work the battlefield. She can thin slice at any given time and moment in battle what to work to her advantage.

She's a great every one of her moves that she's done so far has not surprised me. And that's very hard to surprise me. I was just like, well, how's she gonna get herself out of this one? And then she blasts towards the wall with her stupid flying blue uh electric. It's blue blast-off power train. How dare you?

I hate it. I hate it. That's the part about her that I hate the most. It's so stupid. It's propulsion, it makes sense. Uh does it? Does it? I mean, can do it with hair. Like, who taught her how to use it? Herself. Have you met Azula? Yeah, but I'm like, She can thin slice. The fact that she's like, oh, you know, I'm falling, might as well just blast my way towards that wall.

Can we talk about how Azula is falling in that moment? Like, it is not very elegant. She's like she's like crumpled up in like a sit-up position, like just circling.

She's she's very graceful at it too.

She's coming up with a plan in like a half a second. No, she's she's very impressive.

But I love that she like shoots herself towards the the rock wall and then like pulls out her hair piece and uses that to like stab into the cliffside. If you were Azula, you would have thought the same thing. Uh well, I'm not, so I would have died. I would have shot myself into the rock and given myself a concussion.

Just you would have fallen down, looked at Zuko and given him the bird. Like, how dare you.

Also, something is like I feel like she's extra motivated, you know, because at this point she had her her best friends that semi-turned against her or whatever, whatever this narrative she has going on. And and yeah, so she's just she's going a thousand percent.

And yeah, she brings a war fleet to take out like eight people.

Mm-hmm.

Oh yeah. It's very impressive. Can we talk about Zuko just running out and like trying to stop her single-handedly? Like he's shooting off like fire rockets at these like war balloons.

Can we talk about that little second of shock that she got when she found out that he could actually possibly take her on at this point? Yeah, that he kept up. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I think there was some good form happening. And that was nice.

She was humbled for a split second. Yeah, Zuko's defense was on point. Like she's like shooting him, he's like, cutting through like hot knives through butter.

Yeah, finally.

But Zuko, there's been a lot of like almost in the beginning of that episode. Like, Zuko like underestimating how far he can jump in that moment, like trying to like crawling on the side of the blimp and then just falling. And then thankfully, there was another balloon under the cloud cover. I call baloney.

The one pilot is just a little bit late at the party. Sorry, Azula.

And then they uh they go off and they do what they do best, and that's camping. And then we get one of my favorite moments in the whole series when Zuko walks into Sokka's tent.

Wait, but before that, when everyone's like cheersing, it's like, oh, to Zuko and Katara storms off. And there is this moment. I do really enjoy Zuko and Katara's chemistry.

Exactly. That's why we ship Zutara here. They love each other like brother and sister. No, Aang and Katara love each other like brother and sister. Did you watch the boy in the iceberg play?

Okay.

Okay, and then okay, so backing up to the dinner, it's like, oh, it's just like old times. And Zuko's like, which is another great line. We can make it like old times, and I could chase you around and try to capture you, which was hilarious. And maybe a little too soon. I'm not quite sure.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, it was it was borderline a little too soon. Would you have liked to watch Zuko like play Duck Duck Goose with like a nice scene?

As long as you didn't use that stupid blue propulsion stuff. It's blue blast off power.

That's what they could have done instead of going to the play. They could have like reenacted. And they could have just, yeah.

Oh, that was a crazy day we had. Okay. So Suki and Zuko run into each other. Suki's like, oh no, I'm not doing anything. Goodbye. And then Zuko. I don't know why Suki and Sokka gotta keep their relationship secret to Zuko. You don't know what they were gonna do in that tent. You have no idea.

Yeah, they were supposed to be sleeping in Troy.

They could have been reading fairy tale. They were probably told, boys and boys on the side, girls on the side, we don't want any war babies. We don't want any baby boomers here. Uh-huh. Because you know Sokka and Suki were gonna get down. I'm just gonna say it right now.

Wow.

Or get up.

But where'd those candles come from? Anyone?

Candle bending.

I don't know.

Duh. I don't know.

I mean the rose.

Yeah, I mean. Toph can bend the earth, but she can't bend wood. I'm like, yeah, screw it. Anything's possible. They got those candles from somewhere.

Yeah, Toph probably bent it. Earth bending. I earth bent these candles. So, I mean, I'm happy about Sokka and Suki's relationship. I'm just saying it right now. Also, I kind of feel like you and me are Sokka and Suki, Katie. Oh. Like, you're a super capable, fearless warrior, like princess woman, and I'm the meat and sarcasm guy.

Oh, that's too funny.

And there was that moment of Sokka being like I wish you were meat and sarcasm. No. What am I? I guess I'm Sokka and Meat.

I was just saying Suki is way out of Sokka's league.

Well, I mean, this also tracks. Katie's way out of my league. There you go.

No, she's like, What did you think about learning about Katara and Sokka's mom? Like just kind of like the end of well, like learning about the attack.

I had a slight theory that they had just abducted her mom instead of like taking her out.

Like maybe she would show a backup in the series.

In a way, to me, I thought that meant that the fire bending had like killed him other than taken a body.

Well, I mean, that's that's true. I can see how you could could have seen that. I think it's just their way of be trying to be poetic in their writing, but it it comes across as a little murky.

Yeah, it could be my autism.

But in the in the flashback scene, we get eight-year-old Katara, and she is wearing uh her her coat with like a little crescent moon on it, and it's the same symbol as the Northern Water Tribe when she's training with Paku. A little fun fact there for you. But I want to talk about the main reason that the Southern Raiders were there and the way they conducted that raid.

So here we go. Are you ready?

Yep.

Puppet Master, we meet Hama, right? She was the last known waterbender in the Southern Water Tribe. Who's Hama? Hama was creepy, crazy.

Oh, my favorite crime, my favorite criminal.

My favorite criminal? My favorite grandma, Hama, the crazy woman. So she was the last known waterbender in the Southern Water Tribe. They successfully abducted her. They keep her for decades, trapped in her little cage. She learns bloodbending, escapes, I'm assuming does some damage on the way out. The Fire Nation's like, oh my god, the last Southern waterbender has escaped, knows how to like do creepy crazy things.

We gotta get her back. And so obviously, if you're the dumb Fire Nation, you're like, where would Hama go? Back home to the Southern Water Tribe. So the Southern Raiders conduct one final raid that was very confusing why they were there. They show up to the Southern Water Tribe to get Hama, and that's why Yan Ra, when he's there, he's like, We're not taking prisoners today.

Because what we know is that they captured all the waterbenders. They never were killing them, they were just capturing them and subjugating them. They were there to kill Hama to get revenge. So that's why they were so hellbent on finding the Waterbender. They didn't know who she was. And so when Kaya says, I'm the waterbender, she doesn't say it knowing they're going to murder her.

She says it knowing that they're gonna capture her and she can live to fight another day, knowing that, you know, Hokoda and everyone can probably get her out when the war's over, or something can happen there. Everyone's gonna be safe. She assumes they're talking about Katara. The Southern Water Tribe assumes they're talking about Katara, because they don't know what Hama's been up to, because as soon as she escaped, she stayed in the Fire Nation.

They don't know about bloodbending. So, Kaya's mother was murdered by Yan Ra because they thought she was Hama, and Hama is indirectly responsible for Kaya's death. TED Talk over. That was a TED talk? Yeah, it was my TED talk.

It wasn't very uplifting.

But don't we see that? Doesn't that make perfect sense? I don't know why, I just think it's very interesting. She's only done it once. Twice if you count, huh? Twice. She's done it twice.

And Troy's been into it both times.

Yeah, do it, bend their body.

Oh no, like she went from bending water to bending people, and so and then Top goes from bending earth to bending metal.

What's Ang gonna do? Is he gonna bend the air in your lungs? He could bend people's psyche.

Okay, what do we think about this Hama theory? It's legitimate, and so basically, um Katara's mom's name is Kaya.

Which was the original name for Katara in the in the Unerred Pilot.

But yeah, uh her Kaya is just basically the at the wrong place at the right time. What do you think about that theory, Katie?

Did you make that theory up?

Absolutely not. I'd like to claim it as my own, but it got very hot on Reddit.

I was gonna say you read it on Reddit.

I uh Because I was trying to think. When did Katara or when did they find out that she was a waterbender?

Katara?

Because I w I thought it wasn't until as a child, I think. You think in that moment they knew?

I think so. Because Katara mentioned she was trying to protect me. So maybe Katara didn't know. I mean there's a possibility that Katara didn't know, but her parents knew. Yeah. If she was like doing things like, oh, she's bending stuff. Because as we saw when we first met Katara, she has difficulty bending a fish out of water.

Right. I mean, I think it tracks. I think in a way, like if you knew there was a a woman that was a really powerful bender, I mean I feel like there's a lot of factors.

That's why you send in Yan Ra that takes no prisoners.

Right, but I feel like it wouldn't just be him. And like obviously if you found this, if you don't really understand how blood bending works. I mean I don't know, it seems pretty bold to just show up. And be like, oh hey, you're like one of the most dangerous benders out there.

Well, he didn't know that that was Kai. He went to the chief's home to be like, You gotta tell me who this is. And so then, like, the reversal is like Kai being like, Oh, it's me. And so his he was going in for intel gathering, and then she drops the bomb that she's the water bender. And so if Yan Ra's like, Okay, kaka.

Wham bam, thank you, ma'am. You can tell he hated his job too. He seems like he kind of enjoyed in that moment. No.

I think there was just some you know, some self-hate going on.

And you can definitely see Yanra's self-hate when we re-meet him. Like clearly something happened to where he couldn't like really progress with his life, and so he's stuck like living with his mother, trying to garden in a peaceful, like post-retirement life.

In this like hostile environment.

Oh yeah. I mean go to the market and give me some real food.

So obviously, I think in the end, Katara's like, you know, you know, okay, I mean this is like extreme, kinda, of just that Katara, even though she lost her mother, she you know, she knew love. She's had love and like has probably had a more fulfilling life than this sad old man.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, what do we think about Yan Ra? I think that he has not aged very well. He looked like he was at least somewhat like put him together in his Fire Nation uniform, but I thought the animators did an excellent job of doing drawing the the creases in his in his face from all his years of frowning.

That's why I could tell he hated his job because it shows in his later life like his mouth just looks like it's in a permanent like he doesn't look like he's capable of smiling anymore. He's just like me.

Yanra's like his his character model is interesting because when we meet him, he seems like a standard kind of middle-aged guy. He's got dark hair, he seems like he's kind of physically fit. We find out that Katara, I guess, was like maybe six, seven, eight when she when this raid happened, and then they're only fourteen in the beginning of the show, and so it's only been like six or seven years.

He and he his aged terribly, like he's graying, he's like this kind of frail little dude. Because apparently he's a sad, empty old man. Yes.

And so I'm curious. Maybe he was forced to retire. He didn't want to.

Well, I did have this moment of like considering Yan Ra and thinking that right, he was sent to murder the last waterbender, and maybe he uh didn't really relish in that idea, didn't really want to do it, and so you kind of feel for him in that way, like he was asked to do this thing and he carried it out.

And so maybe it weighs on him. Maybe he needs like to have some like some self-reflection.

I mean that's what we can say about a lot of military people and just different orders. I mean, I mean, even like more extreme too, like nurses, doctors. I mean, like when you're doing when you have to do a task that maybe you don't agree with, but it's your job.

And that's when I had this moment of like, oh, how is Yan Ra gonna recognize Katara, who he hasn't seen since she was a child? And it might be because theoretically, this is like the only person he's like murdered in cold blood, and so yeah, maybe it was like a really like very vivid memory for him, this like traumatic, disturbing thing.

Or on the other side of that, maybe Yan Ra's just a sociopathic man monster.

I think we'll go with the first one. Okay, switching gears after Sokka tells Zuko, right? So Zuko like leaves the tent, but then Sokka leans out, does the Suki call, but like Zuko's still there. It's like what is happening? Uh but then the next day. Was it the next day? I don't know. At some point, did you guys see that like Sokka was doing like a flower chain?

Just a flower crown.

I did read something that maybe it was maybe he was making a lay because maybe he got laid. I think that's BS. Whoever came up with that, it's BS. Okay, well, he's making a daisy chain. He's giving Suki like a gift. He's very, he's very sweet in this moment. I never saw it.

Okay, when you're laughing.

I'm still so confused that they are separating each other, like they're in the middle of a war. Like, I don't how could they make gender separation such a big deal?

I didn't I you don't know it was a gender separation. I just that was something I pulled out of the air.

That was the one part of the episode I just thought was super lame when they were just like Lame, just all sleep together. All sleep in one room, you're a family. Don't you love each other? Your brother Aang next to Sister Katara. Brother Aang, pass me the blankets.

What'd you think about Aang comparing Katara to Jet?

Katara to Jet.

Aang was talking to Katara and said, you know, you're being just like Jet, like all extreme about to seek vengeance.

Yeah, they name drop Jet.

No, I kind of zoned out for that 30 seconds of the episode. I was just like, Aang, you're not making any brownie points, dude. Just just drop it.

Oh my god, you're just like Zuko. Alright, Jordan, what'd you think?

Uh I did think it was interesting to bring up Jet. And it's interesting how he has kind of resonated throughout the series. Like Jet, even though he's I mean, he had he became a recurring character, but yeah, the fact that there's still both these episodes featured Jet to some degree. And I think he could have made a better point than pointing out Jet.

I agree. I think he could have done a lot of examples, but yeah, and that's interesting because right, like then Zuko's like, no, Aang, you know, Katara needs this, and then just this like, okay, guru gitty gitty. I was like, what?

Because Zuko, he's uh he's a he's an anti-villain, so he's gotta like play it up a little bit. He's you know, Zuko's still kind of a bad boy.

In the end, I'm happy that I think Aang gave his blessing for Katara to go, and then everybody was on the same page. I'm glad they didn't have to sneak off necessarily.

I I do want to leave the episode with this that me personally, I really liked Zuko and Katara dressing up in in black clothes, like black ops stuff. I'm like, and the fact that they were wearing masks, like we're having to do right now is very relatable. And they didn't complain about it once.

Okay, well that's true. True that. Take some notes. Okay, but uh after Oh, during when they're doing the little thing with Jan Ra, Zuko pulls his mask down, but like, you know, he doesn't react. But I'm like, you know, this guy knows that that's Prince Zuko, right?

We all know that no one has the ability to recognize the royal family. If if frickin' Fire Lord Ozai was walking down the street in full regalia, people be like, Who's that well-dressed man? No one knows what any of these people look like.

Yeah, maybe.

And it's I think it's less forgivable for Yanra, who was a high-ranking member of this group.

Also, Zuko has like no reaction. Well, he has a little reaction. When Katara starts bloodbending, like he's like, oh. But then he like refocuses.

You get a moment of Zuko, like his eyes kind of widen, he's like, What am I looking at?

Like, is she gonna do that to me? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No. Zuko, know your place, especially when Zutara comes to full bloom.

That's right.

So yeah, uh, doesn't react because he's gotta be play, he's gotta play it cool. He's like, Oh, I got an opportunity to like take this guy out. I'm gonna go interrogate him. Do you know who I am? Do you know who I am?

You better know. Anyway, but yeah, I kind of thought that maybe they would, you know, Zuka would kinda mention it, like, oh, so So that thing you did.

Mm-hmm. What do you think about Katara's kind of announcement at the end that she'll never forgive Yan Ra, even though they have that exchange?

I think sometimes in the in the process, you know, when someone's feeling attacked and you have to be strong in your convictions, right? It's like, no, I'm not gonna do this because I don't want to do this, and they that person doesn't deserve that. And so I think that maybe one day she'll find peace in a different way, and maybe could forgive him, but it's her prerogative.

A couple nuggets. This is the first time in the entire series that Zuko says Aang and Katara's name.

In the same episode.

No, in the series. He's never said their names. Ever.

Oh.

Wow. Guys.

Man, right at the right at the end. Wait, yeah.

Wait, what a He's always been the Avatar, or you know, the Waterbender girl, or hey, you Nugget 2 is all three of us lost our bananas when they're starting their like special ops mission, and it's the group of Southern Raiders on the boat, and they're like, Yeah, so then I was like, hey.

Here comes the tentacle that grabs the space.

They always end that way too. Like they're talking, and then all of a sudden they're gone, and they're tossed like 50 yards into the air. Yeah, so you know, it was like I was like, you know.

I was like, wow.

Wow.

Uh ultimately, I do think this episode is stronger than I give it credit for, especially in my mind and like my head canon. And it is, it is good to have Zuko and Katara kind of go on a mission, and in the end, we have Katara finally forgive Zuko.

What did you think about that, Tri?

So that was pretty good. I understand her I understand her for not forgiving Jan Ra, but I thought it was pretty cool that she was able to forgive Zuko.

And so, yeah, more than anything, I think this episode is important for her ability to kind of move on in that way and to not look at all people from the Fire Nation as being intrinsically evil, and so this could help the bond of the group going forward to not have like the weak link of Katar and Zuko's relationship.

Yes.

But then we have that question that Zuko asks Aang about what he's gonna do with his dad when he's playing with the Fire Lord.

That's why I totally dismissed his conversation about forgiveness. I'm just like, I'm like, it's funny you're talking about forgiveness when you know you gotta face the biggest baddie in the land pretty soon. And I'm like, there's a chance you might be eating your words, buddy.

It is an interesting question. So, what we know about Aang's relationship with forgiveness right now, where do you think Aang's standing?

Uh I'd say Aang's gonna be conflicted until the very moment he meets the Fire Lord, and then it might become clear to him, who knows? But I was this episode also made me beg the question from how far away can Katara Meg do bloodbending? Could she control Fire Lord Ozai with her bloodbending?

I think a lot of bending, like base level bending, you need to be like an eyesight is kind of my thought. Or if tough, you just gotta feel it, feel your way through.

Yeah. I wanna I would I seriously, instead of Aang taking on Ozai, I want to see Katara just bloodbending Ozai.

Oh my god.

Maybe you'll get your dream. She could simultaneously do it to both Ozai and Azula.

unknown Wow.

So Katara becomes overpowered. Uh-huh. Next episode. It's the flashback recap, penultimate episode of the entire series, the Ember Island Players. This is literally.

I don't know, unless it's like super bad. It's a nice creative recap of the series, isn't it, Troy?

That is a nice creative recap of the series. Troy had some very angry words as soon as that episode was over. And I want to hear them. Well, no, because I already made notes.

I'm not gonna speak much about it.

It was just Troy's gonna be silent while Katie and I discuss the episode.

Okay, what about when they go to sit and wait, at the very beginning, uh, you know whose form looked great?

Uh Zuko and his six-pack.

Yeah, and Aang. It was good. I was like, oh yeah, it's nice. I was very That was the best part of that episode. Wow. And then, no, the real best part was when Aang goes to sit down, and then Zuko sits next to Katara, and he's like, uh, like, I wanted to sit there, or whatever he says. He was like, just sit next to me.

Sit next to me? What's the big deal? Yeah, no, Dante Bosco's voice acting there was on point. It was fantastic. Aang was very conflicted and kind of, I think, angry with the lack of relationship going on with Katara. That was definitely like B plot here.

Yeah, it was interesting, and then probably also shows his mental state, like right, that he's watching this play and taking it as truth, right? Or it's like, oh, how could you say that, Katara? Ugh. And she's like, I didn't say that. That was the actor.

Aang's feeling a lot of pressure about having to potentially kill or forgive Fire Lord Ozai soon, theoretically.

Okay, also, Toph was amazing in that play.

Oh, yeah. Okay, I still thought Troy was taking his vow of silence. I was worried you weren't gonna say anything.

I don't know. I I just don't have a review for this episode.

It was just Did you like Toph as a man or do you wish that it'd been a girl?

I didn't care.

You didn't like muscular Toph?

I did appreciate the fact that she didn't take it that seriously. Toph was loving that play. It was so much fun for her. Okay, so yeah, no, with me there was never a vow of silence. It was more like, and if I did have an opinion of this, it was more like I cannot. Unless there's somebody that I personally know in a play, then I'll be biased towards that play.

Like, okay, it's a good play. But there's no way I know in that play? Then You don't know. They were acting. You could have known them. What? No, I just I don't I've never been to a play that I enjoyed.

You know, that's rude because Troy's looking at me in the eyes and he went to a play that I was in. But I knew you. But you said you'd alright.

Okay, okay.

So I'd like to talk a little bit about what we're what we're dealing with here. So they talk about this play, the Ember Island players, the Boy in the Iceberg play. It's written by an Earth Kingdom playwright who writes the play.

Who stalked them hardcore? I don't know. There were some little details. I'm like, you don't know.

It was a little, there was a little too much detail that went into it to be believable for me. I was like, they knew everything that was going on. They they knew that there was like an intimate conversation between Katara and Aang on top of the submarine, and I know it's like supposed to be a recap episode, like, haha, but it was a little too much.

So Troy, the episode ends, and Troy goes, That was my great divide. And then he punched a hole in our drywall, and I said, easy Kyle, and I gave him a monster and he was good to go.

Okay, was there at least three intermissions of this play?

Okay, I love that you mentioned that. So this is the first time I realized that the three-act structure of the episode, you know, where the break happens in an episode that's where the act ends. Each act of the Ember Island players coincided with the one of the seasons of the show. Yeah. So the episode act one ends with season one.

This is you're like, how many Oh, this is the first time I've realized it ever. But I mean, that was really clever that they could have this episode and then make sure that each act break coincides with the end of a of a of a season.

Yeah.

And I would like to talk about three intermissions because we went to a really weird Robin Hood play in Surewood and no, in Selwood. No, Silver. Hmm, Silverton? Where were we?

Silverton.

We went to a really weird children's theater Robin Hood. And I think it was gonna be a four-hour play. Like, I think there were four intermissions. We only stayed for the first intermission.

That was long enough.

We had to leave.

But maybe that's true. We went to a play where we didn't know anybody.

We've also gone to actual good plays. That's also professionally done plays, and we've loved all of them.

That's also true.

But you know, the the real hero of Ember Island players is the backstage special effects old man. I didn't think he got enough kudos for his job.

Absolutely not. It's extremely hard to do that job. He was doing everything.

He was doing lights, he was doing special effects, he was like turning around the backdrop.

Oh yeah. No, um Yeah, no. What I notice is when people go to plays, I never hear about the great plays. I always get to hear about the plays that just sucked. And, you know, I mean, for people that have never been in plays, to walk out on stage in a character that you believe yourself as you are that character that you are playing.

It's extremely hard to do, and it's so easy to screw up the character that you are playing as. And so a lot of people, they they just assume raise your voice as loud as you can, enunciate, and boom, you got a character and you gotta play. But no, that's one of the biggest rookie mistakes I've ever seen.

And that's this play kept doing every single act. I'm like, this is terrible. This feels like punishment that they were watching this garbage. I think it's it's supposed to be bad.

Like that's that's a part of the crux of the episode.

Yeah, but it's Sokka's character. Sokka, man, after he gave him those tips. Slap a pow!

Oh yes. Uh Sokka, so let's get into some nuts and bolts about this episode. So uh they actually the uh the voice acting team for the play version of everyone, that voice acting cast is stacked of like professional, like really well-known voice actors, and it's hilarious to me. So the guy who plays Sokka, his name's Scott Menville.

He voices Robin in the Teen Titans show, so he's like super well known. He does a ton of voices. And so this guy, anytime I hear him not playing Robin in Teen Titans, I g I I lose it immediately. I'm like, I'm taken out. Like, he needs to be Robin. Like, why are you doing this? It's like, so other people Why are you doing this?

Why are you doing this? So they put the superstar cast in the worst episode. Yeah, no, it's hilarious to me. It makes me so happy. So the voice actress of Aang, and so Aang, the whole issue with Aang to Aang is that we get like this Peter Pan moment of like we get this plucky young boy character being played.

Julia Roberts, wasn't it?

Julia Roberts? I know, she played Tinkerbell. Anne Hathaway, come on, man.

Oh, I'm so sorry. Anne Hathaway, Julia Roberts. She was played by Rachel Dratch, who's a famous Saturday Night Live alum. And she doesn't do like a ton of voice work, and so I was really surprised that they got this hilarious comedian. I love Rachel Dratch, she's hilarious. Uh the person who plays Katara is Gray Delisle, who voices Azula.

What? And so they get Azula to play Katara, and then Azula is played by uh Tara Strong, who's a prolific voice actress. She did Tommy and Rugrats and did Timmy and Fairly Odd Parents and has done a million other things. And she's Bubbles and Powerpuff Girls. And so she and Grey Delile work together often in projects.

And so her as Azula was hilarious. Iroh and Top are both voiced by John DiMaggio, who's one of my favorite voice actors of all time. He does Bender in Futurama, he's Jake in Adventure Time, and he's got like that growly, gritty voice. John DiMaggio, hilarious. D. Bradley Baker, who is Apa in Momo and Chong the Nomad, he gets to play Boomi, Jet, and Fire Lord Ozai.

And then my favorite casting choice of this whole Ember Island players is the voice actor for Zuko. Play Zuko is Dante Bosco's older brother Derek. So Derek Bosco is the play Zuko, and Dante Bosco's the real Zuko, and it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my whole life, and it makes me so happy. So when I have when we do the parody podcast, it'll be the Amber Island podcast.

It'll be a group of people who play Troy, Katie, and Jordan, and we'll have them do the whole series. I will have my brother beat me. Repeat that one more time, please. I will not. Okay. So it's really interesting with Amber Island players that you get this Earth Kingdom playwright who writes a play where the ending is the Fire Nation wins.

Sounds familiar. What's up with that guy? He's an Earth Kingdom guy.

Well, maybe he was making it with the intent to sell it to the Fire Nation.

Like I said, sounds really familiar. Or are there other versions of Boy in the Iceberg for every country? Does Earth Kingdom have their own version of Boy in the Iceberg?

Or maybe this guy's like, well, it's not looking good for this crew. So.

I do wonder how Top has portrayed in the Earth Kingdom plays.

Well, I mean, no one would know that she's a Beyfong or that she's, you know, the daughter of one of the most powerful people.

They got Bender to play as Toph. That's incredible. That was so funny. That just made my dad.

What'd you think about the way uh Toph sees in the play? Oh, just listening with her ears?

No, Sonic Scream. Man, I just felt bad for those other actors on the stage. I don't there's no guarantee that that dude brushed that morning. Why not?

I mean, if you were in a play, wouldn't you brush your teeth, Troy?

Probably not.

You've done a play. Did you brush your teeth, Troy? Maybe. Good God, man. Uh, the last time I was in a play, Troy hated it. I had to be in just my underwear for the first act. And I am Yeah, it was too much.

I was my I hate it. My role was I was not that person in the audience saying boo. I was Who was then? Was it Katie?

It was the dude sitting to my left. I had to be in just my underwear. My character was supposed to be an objectively beautiful, really shallow boy toy, and I was supposed to look like Zuko does, you know, rippling abs, probably waxed, just a really handsome guy. And I worked really hard to get rid of my muffin top.

But by the time opening night rolled around, I still got a little muffin popping out. But people had to say things like, Oh, you're in really good shape, or you're really hot. You had a great Pilates body going on. Aw, Pilates body.

Wow. Okay, I feel like we have to talk about Aang's kiss to Katara after she said she's confused. What would you like to talk about? I just want to know Troy's opinion.

Aang's kiss to Katara while she's being confused. I was confused with Katara's reaction. How can you get a kiss from Aang during that one evasion and be all rosy cheek about it? Like very flattered. And then when he kisses you, when he kisses her at that play, she's like, I'm so confused. I'm like, really, Katara?

Really? I don't know. I just this whole time I just assumed she had strong feelings for him. And that was that was like the best time for her to express uh those feelings. But during the play? Yeah, knowing that he'll be fi facing the Fire Lord soon. I'm like, I'm almost feeling like now or never, Katara, but whatever.

Well that's probably what Aang's opinion is, but this is where things get tricky.

He did not ask her permission. That's where he was wrong. Well, he didn't ask her permission the first time. No. But he did have a monologue before it.

But it's not the fact that she said she was confused after, it's the fact that she was like, I'm confused, you know, before, and that wasn't an invitation for him to like, oh, you're confused?

This'll sh this'll clear your mind.

Right. What do you think?

I do not appreciate Aang's act to to recklessly kiss her when they they weren't that wasn't like where the conversation was going. Like both these parties were kind of stalling and it wasn't going in the direction Aang wanted, and so he thought he could bend like the events to his will by kissing her.

And it was super inappropriate, in my opinion. But also he's 12.

I know. And I kind of also wish that they could have hashed it out after the play, but whatever.

Maybe they did off camera. But also, you know, just the the two episodes we watched, you don't really get like the sparks flying with Katara and Aang. It's mostly like Zuko and Katara definitely have chemistry that they're working on.

Yeah. No, and it was just like Aang's own like insecurities. It just like didn't come from a nice place. I just felt like it was like, oh my god, like you're into Zuko because I just watched this play, and but like, but kiss me.

It was definitely out of desperation, not out of like like I love you.

Yeah, so it was just like dirty. I don't like it. Uh okay, but what I did like was when they had the ribbon firebending.

Yes. Do you want to work on that? You want to do a little do a little ribbon firebending?

You know, I've danced with ribbons before, so I was like, oh yeah. No, you have. Yeah, I have.

I really appreciated little details in that episode, like with the ribbon, like when Aang goes Avatar State, yep, yep, and then like all the glowy lights come on, and actor Azula throws the lightning. You see, they animated actress Aang opening her eye to grab the like the ribbon that's being thrown at her, and that was just fantastic.

Very good. Also very good is Did we notice that Aang's hat was the same one that Shu wears from the Painted Lady?

No.

That crazy guy who's like, Have you met my brother?

Yeah, yeah.

Have you met my brother? So maybe Aang was one of Shu's brothers. Uh maybe this whole thing's a dream, and we're all hallucinating.

What about that intense ending?

What do you think about the foreshadowing?

Oh, I'm trying to think of which ending you're talking about. The ending of the play. Oh, where they declare Ozai the winner or whatever.

Well, I mean, so when Sokka is like, oh, the episode the play's over, we've reached the present, and then he's like, oh, this is the future. And then you get like Zuko and Azul on stage fighting, where Zuko presumably dies, and then Aang and Ozai fighting, where Aang presumably dies with the power of the comet.

Yeah, no, I thought that was interesting. I when he was like, hey, there it the play's over, because yeah, that they've reached the present now, and but the play kept going. I was like, well, if I was Sokka, Zuko, Katara, Top, the whole gang, yeah, if I was them, I'd be like, well, this might be a way to get some intel on what their next move might be.

But there was nothing that we didn't already know. But I guess the premise is that they're telling the Fire Nation that Zuko and Aang are both defeated already.

I mean, do you think this is a piece of foreshadowing for the series that Zuko and Azula will fight and Zuko's going down and Aang and Ozai are gonna fight and Aang's going down?

I feel like between Zuko and Azula, it could go either way. Um one one thing's for sure, one of them's gonna get badly beaten, that's for sure. Um and as far as Aang and the Fire Lord Ozai goes, Aang's ready to forgive him. So I'm I'm waiting to see how that works out.

Hmm.

Is that what you think's actually gonna happen?

I don't know. I do think it's a really powerful ending for the play, and I think really puts what they're up against into perspective. Because we get that shot of all, you know, six of them or whatever sitting there, just kind of aghast of what they just watched, like, oh. And then I think it's made worse because the whole audience erupts into cheers when Zuko's murdered and when Aang's murdered.

It's really dark. Well, it's kind of dark times, isn't it? Well, but the audience they cheer at some weird moments in the episode. Like they cheer at the at the Act One finale where Aang is as the koi spirit.

Right stomping on fire nation, yeah.

Why are they cheering that? What's happening here? I know. You were expecting them to be like boo. Yeah. It was a weird play. I think I think that actor Aang was just flirting with the uh audience at the time, like winking at everybody. Have I told you I'm an incorrigible prankster?

What'd you think about actress Aang?

I thought she did a fine job.

And I was voiced by the same person that voices Azula? No, she uh Actress Aang was a Saturday Night Live alumni.

That's right, sorry.

Katara is Azula, Azula is Tommy Pickleslash Bubbles, Powerpuff Girls. That's right. So I want to talk about I I love that they they just get enough wrong that it just feels incorrect anyway. Like Avatar State, yep, yep. Uh she's got like the little fan that like Aang flies around with. It's like a little magic wand.

Like Jet was a really interesting character for me in this one. Like he's wearing a crop top, which is fine, but it just didn't fit him. Jet was pretty strung out. Jet, you're so bad. And then Jet, instead of his like twin hook stores, he's got like Captain Hook hands.

Did you notice that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Aye, that's me hook. And then I love the point where they bring it back, like whether or not Jet died. When they like they drop the rock on him and he like slides under it, and they're like, oh. Zuko's like, Did Jet just die? And they're like, oh, it wasn't very clear. Which is a hilarious homage. So to whether or not Jake Jet Jet died.

Katie did a play in high school. Katie did a play that called The Wizard of Oz. Never heard of her. Uh-huh. And the actress that plays Dorothy. Judy Garland.

Shush. Horn in.

No, that no, the actress at the Talmud High School, where the play was being held, who plays Dorothy, they do a scene where the witch, like, supposed to shoot something on shoot the stage on fire, and then disappears for the next act. Well, the actress who plays Dorothy falls down, the curtain comes down, and it lands right on the actress's legs.

Like, so her. What? So from her knee to her ankles, like still like hanging out on the stage, and she has to like very subtly like drag her legs back inside the curtain. That happened? That happened.

Well, see, we were in it. We didn't see it.

And it was it was opening night, so they she had a really tight budget. By the time we went back for the last show, there was no mistakes. The the budget, huh?

What's that to do with the budget? There was no budget. Tight budget on the first night. The budget ballooned by night three. Let me tell you. We got a benefactor. He had, oh man, pyrotechnic. Someone turned into a dove. Still haven't found him. Yeah.

unknown No.

That's what reminds me of is like Ember Island Players.

Film McHigh School Theater Production, Ember Island Players. Uh, I was in The Wizard of Oz also, and it's the moment where Katie's parents decided that they wanted me to court their daughter one day because I was I was so angry in that I was very angry in that play because I was supposed to be cast as the Scarecrow, the Tin Man, or the Lion, but I didn't.

I got cast as the frickin' wizard.

Yeah, and he's very jaded. But that was my first time doing a play uh in high school, and I could only be the ensemble because talk about being jaded. I didn't even get an opportunity to to audition for any other part because it was all pre-selected. So take that, Jordan.

Yeah, I'm still munching.

So anybody should be, but at least I was a I was a lead munchkin, so yeah, you were lead munchkin, and you played something else.

You played someone else, didn't you?

Yeah, no, I was tree and I was tree. And flying monkey. Tree beard or just tree?

I don't know. We end smutters.

So tell them like high school, Dunn did all three of us wrong. Starting with the plays, me with special ed, like, man.

That is like your third comment. You want to talk about it, Troy?

No, I'm pretty sure. It's a different podcast. It's a different podcast.

Okay, out of everyone in the Ember Island players, who was the best actor?

Hmm. The best actor. Probably Ozai.

I mean, he was he was a very good actor. Probably like uh classically trained was my vibe.

Yeah, yeah, it was no BS.

He had some scary like vampire makeup going on. Like he definitely looked like a 1930s like movie monster. Yeah.

Troy.

It's a toss it between Azula and Tough.

I think Azula was overacting.

I think she was overacting.

Is that the point? But no, the point. A good actor is not to overact. Who overacted the most?

This is the fire, this is the Fire Nation. I don't think they care much about good acting. No, no, no.

There was a moment where Azula overacts.

She's like, Father, the my brother has been defeated. Okay, that sounds like pretty much every play I've I've been to. You need to go, you need to pay money.

Not the Wizard of Oz.

You need to pay good money in the munchkins anyway.

Actual play. Do you think this what The Boy in the Iceberg would have been better had it been a musical? Oh god, it would have been worse. Why? I don't like musicals, period. No, no, no. You need to watch In the Heights. We watched In the Heights, and it was phenomenal.

You guys also watched Frozen.

But yeah, that's an animated musical. It's very different than an on-stage musical.

Maybe you were talking about I just don't like musicals.

Not this! Because this exists in the real world. Avatar. This happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

I think it's time to just cut it off. It's time to try. Troy, are you ready to finish this journey?

That I am.

Four more.

Four more years. No, no. Four more years. Okay. So. We're not doing four more years of this part of the game. Ember Island Players Ends. It's the last episode before the finale. And I think going back to like when I first watched the episode, I think I had the same reaction as like Southern Raiders. I thought they were, in the words of Sokka, it was wacky, time-wasting nonsense.

And I was upset that they would waste a valuable little gold nugget of time to devote to the Ember Island players. Like I think when I first watched it, I I desperately wanted them to go like action-heavy to like explore the lore of the series more. I just wanted something. My expectations were too high, I think was the issue.

And now looking back, now this is like you know my 67th time watching it, I can definitely appreciate the Ember Island players a lot more. And I do appreciate the episode for what it represents. It's this like this calm before the storm moments. We can just kind of like get back to the roots of our characters, like doing something goofy and silly.

What do you think about it?

Well, and you can be reminded. I mean, again, it's the point of a recap, and you know, we're all gearing up for the big finale. So I think it's fine. It's not my favorite episode, but it is our cousins. Maybe. I think Erica. Erica says she loved it. Yeah, it's a good night, it's a night at the theater.

I mean, I don't know if it's her favorite.

How many people are you recruited to this show? Everyone. Everyone's been recruited. I'm a missionary for Avatar. I walked door to door with the box set, and I say, excuse me, madam, have you heard about the Avatar?

So, for those of you that don't know, Jordan has a religion, and it's called Avatar.

No, I'm an airbender. I'm an air acolyte. I live on a mountain.

See how religious he is.

I wear robes. I've shaved my head. I am working on mastering the element of air, in which point I will get tattoos over my whole body.

Okay, an hour later. Troy, do you dislike Ember Island players as much as you I mean, now that we've talked about it, can you see the importance of this episode?

I thought their casting for the actors was intriguing, but other than that, I just I can't see it.

The casting had a lot of potential.

I don't care. I've never, like I said, I don't care much for plays unless I know somebody in it. Other than that, I just pfft I sit down and my attention just goes somewhere else. I don't I don't know how to control it.

Is there another way that you wish they would have recapped?

The actors could have been a lot better.

I mean, if it hadn't been in the form of a play.

Like, I don't know, maybe they meet up with Iroh. Where is he where's that guy at? You know, they meet up with Iroh and then Iroh's like having tea with like Aunt Guitar and Sokka, like, please tell me your journey to this point.

Remember when?

Yeah, no, I'm I would like full 90s flashback penultimate episode where we get like five minutes of new footage of the characters reminiscing about what happens, and then we just straight up flashback throughout the entire series. Yes. Boy Meets World, that was a pretty bad one.

That was Yeah, I can think of a lot of different ones. I was just like, uh, like recap episodes are like worse.

They would do that uh for Lost. Lost had recap episodes, but it was like it wasn't even like framed within like a story, it was like previously unlost, and it'd be an hour recapping what was going on, and then instead of a new episode, you would just get an hour recapping of what was going on. You're like, oh, thank you for that.

But I watched and paid attention to the show, so I didn't need to learn any of that.

unknown Okay.

Ridiculous.

I'm out of here.

I'm also gonna be out of here. But first, Troy, I want to look you into the eyes and tell you, thank you for being a part of this, and thank you for being in the audience of the Ember Island players today. This is the last light haha moment we're gonna get because the countdown to the comet has ended.

We're now at the four-part series finale, Sozan's Comet is what it's called.

And by the end of it, I will not have any fingernails left over.

Because I'm gonna rip them off in some sort of weird form of torture.

You gotta get those underwear to hold on to.

I've got a pair you can hold on to. Socks. Socks. What's gonna happen?

What's gonna happen? Probably next time I'm just gonna bring over like a resistance band and like uh I don't know, uh uh wrist weight.

We gotta we got fake cheese up there you can hold on to. Not like craft fake cheese, but like it's a piece of styrofoam.

Jordan, this cheese tastes so dull. What is it?

No, Troy, what's gonna happen?

In the series finale.

I think it'd be interesting if Katara faced those two older ladies for the fination.

And they're like talking in proverbs, and Katara's like trying to like bloodbend them, but it's not a full moon. Oh no.

And they're all saying, like, our feet hurt. What are you doing? Are there gonna be some battles you expect? I actually was hoping that when Azula and Zuka were battling and getting closer to each other, like they were gonna like he was gonna like catch her fist in midair and he was gonna catch her fist in midair.

I hope they do that in one of the episodes leading up, like finding out, like, no, they're actually at the same level of strength at this point.

So you think Zuko and Azula are head and head to head?

I don't think they have a choice.

What do you think about Ozai?

God, I hope he gets a haircut.

Ozai?

Yeah.

Like a like a That's the battle.

A haircut battle.

Aang's like, I got you beat.

I'm taking you the barber.

Alright, kids. This has been fun. I'm freaking out a little bit to watch among my favorite episodes.

He's always freaking out.

No, but we he's been waiting to freak out for this for this finale.

Yes.

You better buckle up.

Hold on to your sombrero, friend. Yep, yep. Yep, yep.

Yep. Yep.

unknown Mm-hmm.

Testing. Troy. Can you hear Troy? Can you hear Troy? Can you hear it?

God, you're so loud. God, you're so loud. Alright. Can you feel it? Troy?

Troy? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Hola.

It's been a while since we've done that.

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