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Shownotes
What we talk about:
• Why project funding clashes with discovery work
• What CFOs look for in project-based funding
• The benefits of shifting to funding teams instead
• Step one: Fund the team, step two: Assign an outcome
• Helping finance teams make the shift
• Role of product ICs vs. product leaders in finance conversations
• Translating between product and finance language
• Naming conventions and how to make them finance-friendly
• VC-style funding for teams: Fund based on learning and outcomes
• Case study: Agency using per-iteration funding
• Product teams understanding their cost and return
• The mismatch between incremental thinking and ROI
• Why product teams must aim for exponential outcomes
Key Takeaways:
• Funding teams instead of projects supports flexibility, learning, and continuous discovery.
• Assigning clear outcomes to teams helps maintain accountability and aligns with finance goals.
• Product people (especially ICs!) can be powerful allies in helping finance understand value creation.
• Understanding team costs—and expected return—is critical for sustainable product development.
• Bridging the language and mindset gap between product and finance is a core leadership skill.
Resources & Links:
• Follow Teresa Torres: ProductTalk.org
• Follow Petra Wille: Petra-Wille.com
Mentioned in the episode:
• Product vs. Project Operating Models (youtube.com/watch?v=eBHndpnC0j4) - Teresa and Petra reference their past episode on this foundational concept.
• Felix Fichtl: Profitability Unplugged: Navigating Data Gaps While Delivering Financial Insights (vimeo.com/1013524405) (Felix (linkedin.com/in/felix-fichtl) is a CFO who spoke at Product at Heart 2024 (productatheart.com/blog/from-growth-to-profit-…) on bridging finance and product (check out his talk if you can find it).
• David Bland (davidjbland.com), in a conversation with Barry O'Reilly (barryoreilly.com/explore/podcast/testing-busin…) about his book Testing Business Ideas: A Field Guide for Rapid Experimentation (davidjbland.com/my-book), contrasts traditional annual project budgeting with an “internal VC-style” funding approach.
• Tristan Kromer (x.com/TriKro) discussed alternative funding models that move away from traditional annual project budgeting in his Four Must-Haves in Your Innovation Process (kromatic.com/blog/four-must-haves-in-your-inno…)