A Neon Yellow Funeral Scarf (S2 E1 “Next”)

Thank you.

Oh my gosh.

I can't believe we're here.

Welcome back to Desperately Devoted, a Desperate Housewives rewatch podcast.

Where strolling down the wisteria lane of years ago leads us to some pretty current topics.

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I'm Andrea.

And I'm Emerson.

And we are Desperately Devoted to you.

Oh my gosh.

My God, we're here.

I can't believe it.

And we're on video.

We're on video.

This is so exciting. And we're on Hulu.

We're so excited to be here.

If you didn't catch our podcast on iHeart, which was just audio last season, we covered season one. We're here now on video on Hulu.

We're so excited.

We always wanted to be on video.

And you wanted us to be on video, too, and we heard you. It's going to be better. We can gesture. Big gesticulators over here. Yeah, exactly. We're so excited.

We're just so excited to do the same thing we were doing, but even better. We're going to be re-watching the show. We're going to be talking about it. We're going to be having guests. We're going to be using the issues that came up on the show to talk about life and That's everything we were doing, but now we're doing it on steroids in person. On this week's episode, we are watching season two, episode one, and answering some very big questions like, when is it too early to call with bad news? What do you do if you can't stand your boyfriend's kid? Does it really matter whose baby it is? You're a new mom. Does it matter?

I don't know.

Does it matter? I don't think so.

Who is a better babysitter, your husband or a receptionist that you just met?

Depends on the husband.

Yes, it does.

Depends on the receptionist.

Okay, so here we are at our first episode in season two. It's called Next.

And we have some pretty fun new ideas now that we're in video format that we can introduce.

We have some really exciting things.

A running death toll.

And obviously, if you're a fan of Desperate Housewives, that thing is going to.

Get used a lot.

Yes.

And so far, let's see who's on it.

Should we bring it out?

Let's bring it out.

You've mentioned it.

So I think we have to show everyone what we're talking about.

Thank you, Jacob. And we have an incredible producer, Jacob, who I just adore.

All right.

So this is the death data board after.

Yes.

As of season one.

Yes.

As of season one, we had, of course, to kick it all off, we had Mary Alice Young. We had the amazing Martha Huber.

Dead by blender.

Yes.

And we have, of course, Carlos's mother, Juanita Solis.

R.I.P.

Death by blender.

When I think about it, every time I have a smoothie, that could kill me.

I was thinking that we needed an old-fashioned blender up here. I might have to get that for our next podcast. But, so, as we're starting season two... A new death is strolling onto the lane. A new death has come to the lane, and that is Rex Van de Kam.

R-I-P.

Wow.

R-E-X.

And now we can explain a little bit, because Rex dies. We're dealing with the death of Rex in episode one of season two, and that is why we are all wearing these.

attractive yellow scarves, and they're all dressed in black.

Because that's what you wear when someone dies, if.

You're Susan Meyer. Should we ask straight away what.

I think maybe we should. We're going all out of order, but here we are.

You can see it. Yeah.

So apparently the internet has gone wild with why the hell was Susan wearing this yellow scarf.

Why the hell was Susan wearing Miss Yellow?

I want you guys to know I have a surprise. I've kept this a little bit of a secret.

We love a surprise.

And we love a secret.

I have a surprise.

So I contacted the brilliant Emmy Award winning costume designer, Kate Adair.

Oh, Kate.

We love Kate. And you said, what the fuck was up with the scarf?

I said, Kate, what the fuck is up with the yellow scarf? The internet wants to know. And this is what she said. Because, of course, you'll come to know. I don't remember anything. Like, so this is not coming from me.

And that's a fun drinking game that you can play while you watch and listen to this podcast. Every time my mom says, I don't remember something.

You can take a shot.

And you can have alcohol poisoning in under 45 minutes.

That actually is a good drinking game.

That is a good drinking game. I think we should skip that. If the goal is to get obliterated.

Yeah, if we're bored, I'm going to start playing it.

Thank you very much. No, but when I saw the episode and saw The Yellow Scarf and was reminded of it and then reminded by the internet of what the hell, of course, I didn't remember myself.

But it did feel.

feel like there had to be a reason. And that's why I reached out to Kate. Because I was like, it's too... It's too random. And I went through a list like, was there a thing in the script where somebody was going to get strangled with the scarf?

No, that's giving that way too much credit.

No, but I just thought, yeah, what's the reason?

It's such a bold choice that you go, there has to be a reason. So here's what she said. She said, actually, I do remember that scene from Rex's funeral. And I do, crazy to say, remember the scarf and us choosing it. Wow.

Isn't that crazy?

You were responsible for the choice.

Apparently I was. So this is what she says. The short version of Susan's yellow scarf is. The focus in every frame of our story was that each of your characters owned your own space and visual identity. Even and especially if it was a funeral and all of you were going to be in black. Given that Susan was the artist in the group, I always wanted...

I know, right. But I always wanted her to wear or style herself in a way that was a little different. And so her accessories also were always a little different. Yellow is the color of remembrance. Think of yellow ribbons tied around trees. Tie a yellow ribbon around that old oak tree.

Too young to know that song. Really?

Do you know it?

Because she knows it.

Jesus Christ.

I'm a good daughter, and I'm going along with it.

Well, come on.

Send me to hell.

I can't remember you.

I'll wear your yellow scarf to your funeral.

So that's what she was thinking. The nod to yellow was a nod to remembrance. Something I'm pretty sure we actually talked about at the time. Otherwise, I would have given you any colored scarf. Hoping that answers the question. Love seeing you. Let's get lunch soon.

Okay.

I guess you didn't need to know that part.

They're going to get lunch, you guys. That's really exciting.

Actually, that's a far more in-depth answer than I was expecting. And I think that's really cool that there was that much thought put into it.

So now we can lose these or we can keep them on.

I'm attached. I'll take it off, but I'm going to be remembering it.

Are you leaving yours on?

I'm going to leave mine on.

I thought it would have been really nice if you got to set and you needed your lines, which you never did because you always knew them before, but then you could.

Just hold this above the highlighter. So it was fashion and function.

So there is a reason.

That's a great trivia thing.

And I really like just to point to that there really is so much thought put into every frame of a show that you watch, like Desperate Housewives, that there are so many hands that touch it. There are so many different artists, even not the people who are on camera. I think that's a really good reminder.

And I was really, yes. And I was really grateful to Kate for getting back to me. The other thing we have, we're going to have a dad episode. Deliberation. Husband leaderboard. Yes.

Let's bring this guy out.

This leaderboard is to help us identify how we feel about the husbands slash Mike's on their love interests. How are we feeling at the end of season one?

Maybe that leads me to a little game I wanted to do with you.

With me.

Yes, with you.

The virgin eyes of the show. I will have you know.

Oh, yeah, let's remind people. Emerson has never watched Desperate Housewives before.

And I'm going to back up even more on that.

Okay.

Because there is an assumption that maybe you joined just last year.

But I have.

I post stuff on my Instagram. And sometimes people will go, who's the girl on the left?

This random bitch we dragged in off the street.

And.

When we decided to do the rewatch, we thought it was an interesting angle to have me from being on the show and my daughter from television, Andrea, and my daughter from real life, Emerson. And we're all three from different generations, X, Y, Z. I'll put it in quotes because I'm right. I'm 1964, so I'm right on the edge of X.

Okay.

And I'm right on the edge of millennial Gen Z.

We're all kind of right.

On the edge. You're a proper millennial baby.

You and I are on the edge.

Okay.

We're three different generations. We liked that angle of our different thoughts. Emerson never watched the show.

I never did.

When she was growing up. So she, like, Many people, I think, in your generation and younger are watching it now for the first time.

And thanks to this huge resurgence it's having on Hulu right now, so many people are finding it again for the first time.

I am in the boat with all of the new viewers.

Right.

And I will be candidly reacting in live time.

Yes.

And then Andrea is not recently, but newly married, newly baby, having a mother.

The most perfect baby on the planet. Thank you so much.

Seriously, she came over for.

Yes.

To be taken care of by Terry and Emerson who had me and my husband over and our sweet daughter and just fed us and loved on us and it was wonderful.

And we did a picture as we were all heading out to the car and I'm telling you, your daughter is just flawless. Oh my, it's just the cutest picture. That's who we are and that's what we're doing here, but we thought we didn't test Emerson at the beginning of the first season when we were just starting. So we wanted to do this. We're going to test you now, see your opinion now, and then we'll see what happens by the end of this season.

So we're going to do this at the end of each season?

Yes, we're going to do this at the end of each season. I'm very excited.

I'm excited.

I love a test.

And you feel free to play along, especially if you're watching the show for the first time.

Okay.

We're asking Emerson the same questions.

Wait, are there right answers?

No, it's your opinion.

Oh, okay.

She's such a good student.

Feel free to play along because there's... no wrong answers.

There's the best kinds of tests when there's no wrong answers.

I'm even more excited now.

Okay.

We're going to ask you these questions at the end of each season. This is from last season because we didn't do it and we're doing it now.

All right, yes.

Think about this, all these questions, as you're joining us throughout this season so that you'll be able to answer them at the end of this season.

Yeah, maybe you'll have to write in. Yeah, we would love that. Okay.

Who is the best husband?

Oh, okay.

At the end of the first season.

At the end of the first season. I think I am going to hand it to, wouldn't it be funny if I said Rex? Because he's dead. He can do no more damage. No, I think I have to give it to Mike. I'm liking Mike the most. I know he's not technically a husband, but I like Mike the most at the end of season one.

It is funny when you look at this, like there really is no competition.

I know.

I'm going to.

Have to put Carlos. Carlos is at the bottom for me at the end of season one.

I would agree with that.

Carlos is in jail.

He manipulated Gabby's birth control.

Yeah, he's an abusive assaulter. He's at the.

Bottom of the apple barrel, shall we say.

Oh, yeah, that's good. We shall say that.

We shall say it.

Wait, why'd you move Mike away from number one?

I just, no, I just was making it so I could move them around.

He is number one. Put him back, please.

Okay, I was just, okay. Mike.

Okay.

He just was, okay.

Do these guys move up then, or do we change their order? Yeah, I think they have to move up now.

But Carl's pretty bad. I think we have to put Tom.

Ahead of Carl.

Of course Susan would say that.

Look, this is going to be wild because I think it's going to change based on season two.

But I would move Tom up.

I think I would move Tom up as well. Tom is better than Max.

Yeah.

Okay. Okay.

This is where we are at the end of season one.

Do we feel good with this? Do we feel good with this?

Do we feel good?

But it might change by the end.

It will change.

It certainly will change.

Okay. All right. Okay. Question two.

Which housewife has been through the most?

Okay, I think this is maybe a controversial take because I feel people might want to say Susan or Brie, but I'm going to have to say, just taking it by the facts, Gabby has been through the most.

She's in an abusive relationship.

She was coerced into literally being pregnant, and now her husband is in jail, and the only person she has to turn to is an 18-year-old gardener.

Okay.

Newly 18. I don't know.

I feel like that's pretty rough.

You're entitled to your own opinion.

I like your take.

The coerced pregnancy of it all is really.

Is really bad.

That's pretty bad.

But she also.

spent a lot of the first season not being a particularly good person. So I think the tendency is to not give her the credit for having gone through so much because she's kind of deserved it.

Another question could be who is the least sympathetic and the answer also might be Gabby.

But that's not on our question list.

Nobody cares about who's sympathetic.

Okay.

Which child do you think will grow up into the most dysfunctional adult?

Zach Young. Oh, I'm so sorry. But Julie is going to be in therapy.

Yeah.

And we'll see.

We'll see. All those kids are going to be in therapy. Yeah.

So to regroup, we've got I always want to call them by Sean and Joy. I know we've got Danielle and Andrew. Andrew. We have Danielle Breeze kids. Then we have Julie. And then we have Zach.

And then we have the horde of children just going around Lynette's feet.

Penny, Parker, Porter, and Preston.

Oh, Penny, Parker, Porter, and Preston.

Because they did that.

Do that while you're drinking shots playing the Susan I Forget Things game. Wow.

Wait, why not even realize that? They're like the Kardashians. They did that with all the P's in their names.

Oh, yeah.

They started it.

Hey, maybe that's the spinoff show, Keeping Up with the Prestons.

Yeah.

Well, the Scavos, but it would be Keeping Up With The Peas.

Okay.

So after Kerry Washington does Wisteria Lane, somebody needs to do Keeping Up With The Scavos.

Yes.

I like it. I like it.

Okay. Next question.

Do you think any couples aren't going to make it through this season, through season two? All of them are not going to make it.

They're all fucked.

Okay. Rex is dead. Spoiler alert.

So there's one.

So he hasn't made it.

Yeah.

Through being alive.

Carlos is in jail.

Mike is about to get shot.

Yeah.

Right.

Mike is on his way home to his house where Zach is holding him at gunpoint.

Oh, and then Tom is about to be a stay-at-home dad.

I think Tom and Lynette, that bake is caked is what I almost said.

That cake is baked.

So you think the couple, you think all of them are not going to make it, except for Tom and Lynette?

Tom and Lynette, I think they're too far gone.

That they're going to make it?

They're bound together by the goo of their children's mess.

I see that.

I see that. Who is the biggest villain of this season? So I guess it was season one.

Of the first season.

Oh, well, I think Paul Young.

Oh, okay.

More than, well, you are entitled to your opinion.

What were you going to say?

I was going to say Carlos.

Well, okay.

And also, what about Martha Huber?

Okay, you guys, I'm feeling attacked. You said there were no wrong answers.

There are. There are wrong answers.

I'm failing. I'm clearly failing.

Okay, I think from a writing, I'm a writer and a director. I think from a writing perspective.

Yeah.

Paul is written to be the clearest villain of the first season. Let me put it that way. From a moral compass perspective, I hate Carlos. But on the page, I think I'm going to say Paul Young.

Okay.

Which is the best mystery so far?

Why is Susan wearing all those scarves?

Okay. Perfect.

And we've got one answer.

Okay.

Which housewife would you call to help you dispose of a body?

Brie.

Yeah, for sure.

No question.

She's bringing gardening gloves. She's bringing Clorox. We know she loves to clean. And she might even make us a nice lunch after.

Yeah.

That's true.

You really nailed it with that one.

She's the perfect person.

Again, if you'd like to go back and visit our podcast from season one, please do that. But you will hear a lot of me going, Marcia is so great. I love Marcia.

Marcia is so great.

Yeah.

I really feel the Brie character. Did stand out, continues to stand out.

Will always stand out.

It has great.

Writing and a great journey, but it's backed up by a great performance. We have so much to talk.

About with Brie this first episode of season two.

We're not even on to this episode yet. We have an editor.

There's a lot of regroup.

We've missed you.

Oh, we've missed you.

We've missed each other. We're so happy to be back.

On a scale, I think this is the last one.

Okay, finally. Oh, I'm sweating.

Oh, yeah.

This is important because TikTok does seem to really have a pretty strong... opinion about this.

Another, there's no wrong answer question.

On a scale of one to ten, how much do you like Tom Scavo right now?

One being not at all?

Yeah.

Okay. That's typically, I guess, how scales work. I'm going to have to give him three and a half.

And based on?

Based on his general asshole demeanor and kind of aloofness. I think he's so clueless that at a Hello, we're living in the world.

And I get confused because I love Doug Savant so much.

This is not about the actors.

No, I know, I know, I know. But that's what I'm saying. I get confused because I look at the performance of Doug in the manifestation of Tom and it makes me laugh. be more forgiving and loving of Tom.

I feel the same way. I am seeing the.

Hate for Tom.

Because the internet hates him and I don't get it.

I see the hate.

And when Doug came on our season one and he said, I'm discovering that people hate Tom. And I feel maybe it's the discrepancy between how much we adore Doug in real life, but I find his character a little more sympathetic.

I'm a little worried that you're already at a three. I feel like Tom is going to end up so deep in the basement.

I wanted to say, he might get negative. Because I do think Tom, the hate for Tom comes in season two.

Right.

What I've seen of it.

Okay.

So where we're at when the season opens is we have got Zach is holding Susan hostage in Mike's house.

Very suspenseful.

With a gun.

The only other person there is not a person. It's a dog. It's Bongo is there.

Oh, the ever-helpful Bongo. Yes.

And then we.

Have Edie, who has just sold Sight Unseen, the house on the block, to the Applewhites, which are going to be played by Alfred Woodard and Claude Brooks. Both are wonderful.

Carlos is in jail because he lost.

His mind when Gabby teased out that the baby actually wasn't his.

And it turns out.

That losing your mind in a courthouse is not the time to do it. Unless you want to go to prison.

Unless your case is that you're pleading insanity, but, you know.

Well, that's true.

That would be good. And then Lynette has torpedoed Tom's job, and so he's done with her.

He says, I quit.

I'm going to stay home with the kids. You go back to work.

So.

Just what everyone wants to hear.

That's where we find ourselves. The first thing that happens in the episode that I do think, I love this because I think right away, you know, my favorite thing about the show is the tone. And it's a tricky, tricky, tricky tone. And sometimes it hit and sometimes it did not. And I'm sure we will rate episodes about when it misses and when it doesn't miss. But when it hits, it's really what made Desperate Housewives special. And that tone is where this comedy is. and grounded truth and the sort of soap operatic, like, you know, the soap opera aspect of it, but also the comedy is still so clearly and flawlessly blended together.

I always think about what we had Michael Edelstein on as one of our last guests at the end of season one, and he said that two of the guiding lights tonally were American Beauty.

And Edward Scissorhands.

And it is that hyper real, just outside of reality, but still relatable, walking the line of melodrama and comedy.

And you really feel this in the opening, which is where we were.

So you've got Ida Greenberg, which by the way, I also like to say, shout out to Mark Cherry for.

I think he really did write a lot.

Of older women characters. And I, as an older woman now, You could be Ida now.

Oh, easy there. That's her TV daughter. And as your pseudo older sister.

Obviously kidding.

Obviously.

No, but you know what?

The truth is.

Yeah.

And honestly, I look forward to doing that. And she did it so well. So we're talking about Ida Greenberg, who they position as the alcoholic on the block.

She's been playing the Terry saying she doesn't remember things game too much.

Too much.

Right.

She has.

And right before she's about to drink again, the gun that Zach is holding me hostage with goes off and shoots its way through the bottle of alcohol. And she looks up at God like, OK, I get it. I won't drink it.

But I love that scene.

And I loved how it just sets you right up for the tone of what the show is.

I completely agree with you.

And just as another quick little touch on that, I also think it's such an amazing thing about our show that we should be so proud of, which is that after the incredible success that season one was. You have a choice of how you want to open season two. And the fact that Mark Cherry and our writers chose to open it with Pat Crawford Brown, who played Ida Greenberg.

And not one of the main, main cast, but.

Started with such a specific character as the way to open a second season after following season one is just really cool and unique.

I think it really speaks to how the show welcomes the viewer in. Sometimes we start with these ancillary characters, and I've been thinking about this as a writer.

We start with a character.

That maybe a viewer can see themselves in. It's not one of the stars. Obviously, we see ourselves and refractions of ourselves and.

All the stars.

But we start with just a normal neighbor on the street dealing with their own issue. And then that microcosm becomes a way into the larger story.

And I think it's such smart. You're so right.

Such smart directing, such smart writing. And in this opening monologue, you know, obviously by Mary Alice.

We get that a year later, has passed, which is big.

Yeah, it helps that it establishes every season. Sometimes spans a year.

I kind of recall, and we'll see this as we go through the seasons, but there were some tricky things around time because of age. Actresses on the show were all in real time around 40 to 43, except for Eva. And people wanted to know, who are Lynette and Brie? What are their characters? How old are they? But then if you start to marry them to an age too young, definitively, then you might get in trouble, then pretty soon we're gonna be 60.

Well, as someone who started the show playing a character younger than me and then finished the show playing a character older than me, we definitely played with some time.

Time was a wonk.

You know what, but time is a construct at the end of the day, and it is on Wisteria Lane.

Well, I like that.

So after Mike walks in on Susan and Zach with the gun, Zach holding the gun, and all hell breaks loose, and the moment when Susan reaches for Zach to stop him from shooting Mike, Harry screams no.

Yes, you did.

And I have to, it seems so wrong, like the level of screaming, like such bad acting. Oh, come on.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

No, I have to wonder if that was something that happened in post.

Can you do it for us now? No.

It was something like that. I don't know.

I'm even better in person. Apparently I can do it.

Yeah, I believed it.

Okay, anyways.

No, you know what? I kind of agree. I'm picking up on what you're saying. I kind of agree. It felt a little... Not your performance. Oh, just say it. I suck.

No.

Oh, my God. No, I will never. The scene itself felt a little silly to me.

Yeah.

And I wonder if we're going to wade into those waters a little bit with season two. I kind of remember feeling like we got off somewhere.

And so quickly in this episode, I was like, huh, that felt a little different than season one.

And then it's a hard tone to continue to capture.

And then bringing us into the hospital.

Which actually was great.

Okay, but so I could continue to question that, and I wonder how fans feel about it.

Wait, remind me, so you have all this gauze in your mouth and the bloody mouth. How exactly did that? I was trying to track, like, you hit yourself.

I think she fell.

I fell.

We never really get clarity.

Or maybe Zach was struggling with me. That's where it may be, where maybe he hit me and struggled.

Before the gun goes off. And you know what, Emerson, it's because.

It was funny. Okay?

That's exactly what I was picking up on.

I was like, this is not something we saw happen in the scene, but now we just want Susan to have some malady.

And so, okay. Okay, yeah. I believed it.

So I look at that. performance as like sometimes it made me feel like sometimes I feel like I was in a different show like sometimes and I think many times you have directors that are just kind of rolling in and out and they really haven't been there in any sort of regular base I actually had always wished for I used to actually talk to the head people about this a lot that there should have been a producer that was just assigned their whole job they weren't writing it they weren't trying to direct it whatever their whole job would have been to track it. Because you get later in the seasons and you'll see somebody will say the same thing that somebody else said. Or even worse, somebody will one episode say, blue's my favorite color. And

then the next episode, red's my favorite color. And you're, as the actor, you're going like, but I just said blue and now it's red. I mean, that didn't actually happen.

Like a real designated continuity producer.

Because coming back to this scene, I feel like I was doing a comedy. An honest comedy, but a comedy. Yeah. And sometimes I look at the show as a whole and especially after stepping away from it for decades and I think, oh, maybe it wasn't a comedy. Maybe I was, maybe I, maybe I was in the wrong, I was doing the wrong thing.

I think, I think something that kept people, it's keeping me as a first time viewer with the show is, and I agree, sometimes the tone gets off the track, but is the oscillation between comedy and drama and you really, I mean, it makes sense in the awards shows to not, like you didn't really know how to categorize it because some things are incredibly dramatic and then, you know, you have Susan running naked through the bushes in season one, and that's out-and-out comedy.

It's nuanced, though, because it's a specific type of comedy.

Mm-hmm.

And then a specific type, you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I feel like that's when it was written in that, like, with a little wink.

Do you remember shooting this scene?

I do actually.

Remember shooting this scene because I remember. Because guess what?

I don't remember.

Yep, time to take a shot.

I do remember shooting this scene. I remember, you know what? It's because, it's honestly just because I remember thinking it. And you were so funny. And no, it's true. Like I was a little sponge, right?

I was delighted to get to work with you for so many years and to get to work with so many of our amazing cast. And so I was kind of studying a little bit. And your comedic timing was so great. And so it's interesting to hear you comment on it like it was maybe not necessarily the right thing or you felt like you were on a different show.

But I do think you were great at doing it. And so I remember shooting the scene. I remember working out the like when you were going to spit it. I remember us continuing to talk about the how Julie is once again kind of zen.

Susan is definitely not winning the Mother of the Year award.

Right.

But you know who else is not winning any awards for me? And I know I just put him up on the top of our ranking board at the beginning. Is Mike in this scene. Mike, and he continues to disappoint me throughout the episode. But this was the turning point in the scene where Mike underplays what happened with Zach. And, of course, we're going to get the reveal of why Mike is doing this, the information he has about Zach.

Which is?

Which is that Zach is his son.

That's a big reveal.

Which I was like, what?

Yeah.

Yeah. They don't really look that similar. Well, you know what? This brings up a good point. I don't see it.

Was that the plan always? Because maybe when they originally cast... cody.

No way you know they maybe didn't know that that's where the mystery was going.

That did reek to me of like writer's room going season two what.

What twist are we pulling out now obviously we find out.

The big reveal that zach is mike's son and that mike is really throwing susan under the bus.

So so susan mike in this episode are going through a thing where yes the big reveal is that zach is mike's son yes but the big.

Baggage with that is that Zach has been totally fucking creepy to Julie.

Yeah.

I said it again. I don't know.

I'm on an F-bomb.

Zach's a little obsessed with Julie. But, you know, who can blame him?

No, I mean, I'm obsessed with Julie.

He's a troubled kid. But it brings you to an interesting point. And you started off the episode talking about, does Susan start to, I don't know, jump the shark is not the right word. But maybe it is as we go through the second season.

Mm-hmm. I don't.

Definitely recall feeling like as we get later into the season, like, wow, if Susan does that, there's no going back. Like that's not a great trait. And so I feel like as an actor conscious of this character that I'm doing and looking at the writing I remember sort of thinking wow this is pretty like which part do you well in this episode she's just you know like she gets up and just leaves the the morgue you know when uh like oh he's your son okay I gotta go right and then later she apologized and says that was rude and I was just reacting whatever but So I do think Susan is potentially overtly dramatic. I mean, what occurred to me that Susan does, and I think this is a behavior that people do, she's doing the whole story

in her own head.

Oh, my God.

We've talked about this. Yeah, she doesn't come to Mike and go, hey, I'm thinking about... You know, what does this mean? The things that we've had where he threw the table in my house and it feels like maybe he's threatening Julie and like obsessed with her. And I don't how are we going to do this? She doesn't do any of that. She just comes with a final decision.

We can't be together.

Yeah, I do think that is the most dangerous thing to do in a relationship. And like some breakups I've been through, I have felt occasionally on the receiving end. And listen, I'm sure I've actually been on the perpetrating end as well. But of the receiving end of like, oh, you've been having this conversation playing both of our roles in your head for I don't know how long. And now you've come to a conclusion you're sharing with me.

And I wasn't a participant in this conversation at all.

Right.

And Susan doesn't give Mike a chance to explore the relationship with this new information.

And he might really need Susan now that he's got this bomb.

So we never really find that out.

They break up.

They break up. That's sad.

And then Brie wakes up and she gets the call about Rex being dead. She's so great in that scene. And she decides that she has to wait till 9 a.m. To call people with the bad news.

Yeah, what do you think about that? Do you think, is 9 a.m.

Just the definitive standard of the appropriate time to start reaching out to people?

Here's something I think is different about the time that this show was done in. I feel like, to our detriment, everyone is on their phones at all times. I find that people get offended if you don't answer their text in person. five minutes you know it's like well this is pre-smartphone that's what I'm saying so the expectation so actually I think it's quite lovely in a way that she's waiting and now we have to to mindfully go we have to turn our phone on do not disturb and then we have to make sure that the silent button is on and then we have to turn the volume down and even at that for you I I still have you on, you're the only person, by the way, that can break through.

You have me on breakthrough?

Yeah, you're my breakthrough. Well, as you should. How can you not?

No, because I could just override it.

Like, if I really wanted, you know when someone's on Do Not Disturb and it's like, notify anyway?

No, I don't.

Yeah, I think that's hilarious.

If someone's phone is on Do Not Disturb, you can hit on your end, notify anyway.

If you want to be a little pest.

Really? Yeah, I think so. Somebody shut that for us. I agree with you. I think the idea of having.

Quiet hours is totally gone. We're accessible to anyone at any time.

It's one of the reasons I read so much now. Because I feel like reading books is a time span when You have to shut everything out and you can just be still.

Anyway, so my husband and I decided we're getting a landline. So we are, we are, we're moving the other way.

Hey, thanks.

Wow.

I just bought.

A dumb phone. I haven't set it up yet. That's how dumb it is. But I, I just bought a dumb phone and the dumb phone is so all you can do is call. texting is such a problematic thing. It's not like your phone. So I'm going to work on having my dumb phone and see how it changes my life.

Anyways, Brie is disassociating with soy milk in front of the trash.

That's a great scene.

Which is a great scene.

And also very relatable when dealing with grief to just completely check out.

To bring back to the tone, this is when the tone nails it.

It's comedic, disassociating with soy milk, But it also really does speak to the truth of grief.

Like, what am I going to do with this object? It's not mine.

It belongs to the person who's just died.

And then enter Phyllis.

We get the amazing Shirley Knight. I mean, how incredible.

Oh, my gosh.

And she is just the monster-in-law of the century, leaning out the cab window, crying. wailing wailing wailing is a good word yeah yes.

Yeah overshadowing um and taking up all of the emotional space that now brie is left with no place to put her grief because her mother-in-law is filling it and.

All she can do is put that soy milk in the trash.

And that brings me to if i don't know if we're going to touch on our favorite line from the episode but but my favorite line is it belongs to andrew who says she she may be a bitch but you know she's family so that makes her our bitch Yeah, that is.

A good line. About his grandma.

That is a good line.

I think Brie, obviously, she gets my best line award again. But this, she actually says to the, is it a pastor who they're meeting with, with her mother-in-law?

Yeah, it's a reverend. A reverend.

Our repeating reverend. He has been in season one.

God, a repeat offender on my list.

But she says, I will go non-denominational so fast your head will spin.

You liked that? I liked that. I liked it. I don't know.

It's a good threat. It's a good threat to a reverend.

It's a good threat.

And then we just see Rex's poor, lifeless body in that heinous tie.

And how it's so physical and emotionally pushing down and keeping it all in and And then she.

Stalks down the road and she's like, you, give me your time.

And I love Lynette.

Give it to her. We have no idea what she's going to do.

And then she just bursts out the doors. I just love that scene.

Yeah, it's brilliant. It's brilliant.

I remember actually filming that scene at the Hollywood Presbyterian Church.

Is that where we were?

Yeah, that's where we were.

And I also remember, just because sometimes it's worth repeating that I, of course, was a younger person on this show.

What were you? Were you 14?

I was 14, I think, at this point.

And I didn't realize that Stephen Culp was not actually there.

Because when I walked.

In and I saw his body in the casket for rehearsal.

I thought, wow, he's just committed to lying there. Like he's just still as can be with his eyes closed.

And it wasn't until I walked over at some point and I was like, oh, that's not, That's just some sort of mold or cast that they made of him.

It got me. That was really good.

That's honestly disturbing.

It was disturbing. I was totally spooked and freaked out by it, but also I was wrong.

Other things that are happening.

Gabby comes home to find John, the gardener, with rose petals all over her bed and his gym bag. Nothing says romance like that. He thinks that he's supposed to move in. Yeah.

Which, where did that come from? Yeah, somehow that they're going to have this baby together and they're going to be a couple or whatever. She kicks him out.

Yes.

As rightfully she should.

Has anybody ever had in their real life, anybody like spread rose petals on the way to anything?

No, because everyone knows that roses are not at all close to my favorite flower.

That is true. I actually do know that. Thank you. You know what?

My best friend did scatter rose petals all over Josh in my bed after we got engaged.

I mean, she wasn't there. She did it before we came home from our trip.

And she waited and watched.

It was very sweet.

But if someone, you know, as a romantic gesture from a suitor to me, I've never had it done.

Have you?

Remember when that guy sent like 200 roses?

What did he do?

He sent like $ 5, 000 worth of roses. I mean, if you can imagine.

It filled the entire foyer of the house.

Did he do something bad? No, they weren't even dating.

He wanted me to marry him. He was just crazy.

Well, that's a crazy gesture.

Also, that's a real waste of money.

You know classically when someone who you've only been on one date with wants you to marry them.

But it's sweet.

Sort of like the, you know, okay, so I'm bringing it back to John the Gardener. He finds the key, he breaks into the house, he puts roses to the bed, he has champagne, and then she kicks him out.

As she should.

Yes, and she's hell-bent on faking this paternity test.

She wants to get right with Carlos, and he, the first thing he wants is a paternity test. She, in her Gabby way, she thinks she can finagle a Photoshop she got for Christmas.

A little bit of a dated reference at this point.

You know what's so funny? Okay, Emerson and I have been- I.

Also was like, why did Gabby get Photoshopped for Christmas?

And who?

Who gave her Photoshop?

Not Carlos. Not Carlos.

Maybe not John.

Back in the day, people got Photoshopped for Christmas. Okay, okay. But- Emerson and I have been obsessed with this podcast called Love Trapped.

You guys told me about it and now I'm obsessed with it.

And when I was watching this episode, the woman, allegedly, I guess I have to say that, but the woman in the thing fakes a paternity test.

Yes, she does.

A couple.

And I just thought, this is crazy because you go back and you revisit Desperate Housewives and you think, this is so proper.

It's so heightened.

None of this stuff actually happens. And here we are with probably one of the most popular podcasts on the air right now where the woman allegedly does the exact same thing.

Perhaps she watched Desperate Housewives Season 2 Episode 1 and was like, bingo.

That's probably where it all came from.

I also love in that storyline a small button of the goth receptionist judging Gabby.

We don't all condone adultery.

Just because I have tattoos and piercings doesn't mean I'm okay with adultery.

Which is a nice.

Little moment on don't judge a book by its cover. Because I have funky hair and tattoos and a nose ring.

Don't think that I'm... Don't have Christian values.

Exactly.

And then we have Shirley Knight as Phyllis. She sucks all the oxygen out of all the grief.

I think it's really interesting what's happening with the mother's... of the people on the lane. So whether that's a mother-in-law or it's a mother of a housewife.

Susan's mother.

Yeah, Susan's mother.

We're getting really, Juanita Solis, we're getting very strong depictions of motherhood throughout.

That is interesting.

Yeah, and we obviously get some amazing guest stars out of it, like Shirley Knight. And the sort of dynamic between Brie and the posturing she always has and keeping it together, not being able to explore her own grief because now she has this over-the-top mother-in-law who comes in and just kind of really takes over and that dynamic is, I think it continues.

A bit, but I think it was great.

I think it's probably my favorite part of this first episode of season two is that dynamic.

Well, okay, rapid fire question. Who gets to plan the funeral? The mom or the wife?

The wife.

I agree.

Yeah, I think I agree. Everything right now in my mind is like, mom, mother gets to decide.

But no, I think it should be the family, the wife. And hopefully in an ideal world, it's a harmonious conversation between both where you can honor their childhood all the.

Way up until their adult life. But that was certainly not possible between... Yeah. Between Phyllis and Brie.

I do think also maybe there's a point in how long they've been married.

Rex and Brie have been married for a long time.

And they have two older teenage children.

Yeah, that feels like the wife has earned planning the funeral.

Maybe if you were together six months or something, then it's a little bit more of a wishy-washy situation.

Actually, I want to take my answer back now that I'm looking at you. Hey, you're looking at me.

You're like, wait a second. I'm planning your funeral.

But I'm not that.

See, I can't even do it because that I have to turn around three times in my head counterclockwise right now because the mojo on even thinking about that.

You won't be planning my funeral. Don't worry.

Right.

Of course. Hopefully it's never even an option for the mother.

Right.

Because that means things went out of order.

I think my favorite line from the. is, moms are like ER doctors. They never get any time off.

Does Lynette say that when she interviews with Nina Fletcher for her new job?

She actually says it when she goes back to do the second interview after she's already said to Nina, you know, my kids aren't going to be an issue.

And then Tom.

Throws his back out.

Like the biggest fucking baby on the planet.

We're going to.

Have to bleep you so much.

I know.

You can say that on Hulu.

Can you?

Okay.

All right.

Well, we'll learn if you can or can't.

Yeah, we'll find out.

I'll find out.

But she's on the floor trying to get him to be able to get together.

I hated Tom in this scene.

Well, you know.

Well, is he not allowed to throw his back out?

No. No, he is allowed to throw.

His back out.

Not that quickly. She just went back to work.

But the point that she makes, and this is kind of, you know, like what I feel is very relatable for moms. You know, she says, that time you were out of town and I had 104 degree fever and I took these kids trick-or-treating anyway. I mean, I... feel like watching that like that was my life yes yeah like I feel like that was my life I mean single mom obviously you were with your dad some of the time but as a single mom when you were with me that's the stakes yeah.

And generally I do feel like women are just consistently moms or not So the people who are like, just suck it up. And whatever you're dealing with physically, you just have to go on in your life.

And you're right.

Moms are not.

You're right.

Women do. Women do everything.

Well, there's terms for this now, right? We reference it being like the default parent. And oftentimes the mother falls into the default parent role. I think we're trying to make strides. I know I have a wonderful husband who's hugely involved in our daughter's.

Life, but it happens.

And that line, when she says that line, that it's like an ER doctor, you have no days off. I I really relate to it in the sense that.

Even if you get a day off, even if you get.

A good night's sleep, your mind is so focused all the time on your child that there is no break from it.

Your thoughts are just with your child all the time. So there's no escaping it. Not that you want to, but.

I actually, it never goes away. So she's 28 and I try, this probably just, I don't remember exactly what it was. But I know that I sometimes lead with, I'll say something like, oh, I know one.

Okay.

So I read an article in the New York Times about all the accidents they're having with all the scooters and.

The electric bikes because.

The bike lane goes both ways. So when you step off the curb, you don't have to just look the way of the cars. You have to look both ways because the bikes could be going anyway.

I was in New York and she calls me.

And there was a whole article.

Panicked I'm going to get killed by a bike.

There was a whole article about this. And so I texted it to her and I text this whole thing, please look both ways when you cross the street. And then I say at the end of it, I know you're 28, just accept I'm your mom.

Like, that's it.

Yep.

No, I mean, I get it.

It doesn't go away.

But of course, we have to talk about the first episode of this season is when we get the introduction of some new neighbors.

It's a big deal, right?

Because people are passing and new people are coming in and that becomes a real big recurring theme of our show.

And these people have some drama.

Yes.

So these new neighbors arrive. Edie sells their house to them. They arrive seeming, I guess, their.

Intention is to seem relatively unassuming. But of course, they have a big bad secret that we will learn and it becomes the big mystery of the season.

So we have the Applebites who arrive. Which do you think... Played by Alfre Woodard and McCodbrooks.

Do you think Applewhite, there's anything in the name? Do you think anyone was winking in the writer's room?

Oh, apples, apples are the iconic symbol now of the show at the beginning of the, we're going to name them Applewhite.

Maybe.

Or do you think that was just the most common last name at the time?

I think there's always something with the names being very prototypical, like sweet or good to contrast these deeper secrets. So Applewhite sounds like a good, solid neighbor. Yeah, very friendly name. And then they have this other stuff going on.

I suddenly am like, what would Johnson? Right, Smith.

I don't know.

Well, Young kind of has that naivete.

Meyer.

Not Meyer.

Meyer, yeah. Vandekamp.

I mean, Vandekamp's not typical, but it is a very specific name.

So yeah, so the Apple Whites arrive.

Arrive with some secrets. I have to say, obviously, I have not rewatched season two. This will be my first time rewatching it since the show was on. But I had remembered more about season one than I do about season two. I really don't remember where the season goes, but I do have a faint.

I feel like it gets messy.

Yeah, I think Michael Edelstein, if you listened to our last podcast from last season... I think he might have nodded to, I think he was friendly with Alfred Woodard and he was part of why she got brought into the show. And then I think that there was a storyline potential that Mark had wanted to do. And then ABC sort of squashed it for some reason.

So then they kind of had to pivot.

And then they pivoted. And I remember it also, it got a little complicated. I do remember season two being the one where I felt like that's the Susan character in general kind of jumped the shark a little bit. Um, I'm not necessarily seeing that hugely yet. But for all the things I don't remember, I sort of remember season two being a little bit of a mess.

I do.

I reserve a good amount of grace.

I feel like shows in their sophomore season, especially after... A kind of unprecedented, wildly successful first season.

That's a tall order.

That is a tall order to follow up on.

And so I think there was, there was something crazy. We went from having 12 series regulars season one, which is already a pretty stacked cast, to something like 20 series regulars season two or something. There was like a big leap because people who were guest stars first season became series regulars. And then we had new people come on that became series regulars. And I think there was just a lot going on. And a lot to deliver in season two.

So I'm very excited and curious to watch how it all unfolds.

We do get this fantastic closing scene in the episode where all of the women gather in front of, they're on the lane in front of Gabby's house.

After the funeral.

Yeah, after the funeral in the young house.

Susan wearing the scarf.

Susan, still, the scarf is going strong.

Yeah.

And the color of remembrance. Let us not forget.

Let us not forget.

And she says, how much do we really know about our neighbors? And she delivers the information of who the Youngs really were. They weren't... Isn't that what she does?

She has been telling them that Mary Alice is the one that killed Deidre.

Yes.

And they're, wow, we don't really know. And she says, what do we really know about our neighbors? And then she says, this is what's so key. She says, as long as you keep your lawn clean... And you take your trash in on time. We don't bother with whatever else is happening. And it's true. I've lived in a house where I had a neighbor once complain that I didn't bring my trash cans in fast enough. That's a real thing that happens.

Yeah.

That was in Shadow Hills, by the way.

Shadow Hills.

I was like, you're always bringing your trash cans in.

No, I bring my trash cans in now because you only get yelled at by your neighbor once.

And it's so mortifying.

You never want that to happen again. So bring your trash cans in. I think that that's.

Very true and unfortunate.

And I think if I'm imparting on our podcast audience, especially now, I would just ask us all to Be kinder to our neighbors. Be kinder. Give more grace. You just don't know what people are going through.

Yeah.

And I do have to just point out, on a slightly lighter note, in that scene, my favorite moment of the episode... was noticing that Gabby is walking on the curb the entire time while the rest of the women are walking on the street.

And why do we think that was?

And she is still shorter than Brie. That's true.

I'm going to have to bring it in, but we have a photo of you at eight years old standing back-to-back with Eva, and you're the exact same height.

We are. Shout out.

That is funny. Do you think Wisteria Lane is safer now? this year than it was last year, now that we have new mysteries and old mysteries solved and new mysteries revealed?

Hey, if there's one thing I've learned as a first-time watcher of Desperate Housewives, it is that nothing is ever safe on Mysterio Lane.

All right.

And nothing seems to be off limits.

So, you guys, this is our first.

fan guest ever on our podcast. We're so excited and honored to have you.

Hi, Casey. Nice to see you.

I love your shirt. Oh, my goodness.

That is the appropriate shirt.

And one of the reasons we chose you is I was completely enamored with your chicken coop and your chickens.

Oh, my God.

My desperate hen wives.

Yes, can you please tell everybody briefly about the name of your chicken coop, your chickens, and how this all came to be?

I guess, obviously, you must be a pretty big fan. Yes, I am certainly a big fan. I have six chickens, and I call my coop Chicksteria Lane.

That's so good.

And I call them my desperate hen wives. I love my girls.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. I'm obsessed with them.

And so are they Susan, Gabby, Brie, Edie? Do you have extra characters or how many are there?

I have Susan, Brie, Lynette, Gabby, Karen.

And Edie.

Karen. I love Karen.

Yes, you had to have Karen.

Which chicken is the biggest troublemaker?

Kind of Gabby a little bit. She's very sassy.

It's very fitting.

And it's so funny because I spent an embarrassing amount of time choosing the breed of chickens based on the characters and who was going to look like who and the temperaments. Like my Susan chicken, she's a chocolate Orpington because they're really sweet and super silly.

Cute. Yeah, so cute.

Wait, I'm a chocolate Orpington?

Chocolate Orpington, yes.

Oh, Orpington.

Orpington.

Okay. Well, I know what I'm getting you for Christmas.

Thank you.

That sounds like something I would want. Okay, because that breed is silly and you said sweet.

They're very sweet and friendly. Okay. And she is. She's like, you can totally cuddle her. She's super sweet. And what kind of chicken is Edie? Edie is a Splash Moran.

So Edie and Gabby, Gabby's a light Brahma, and both of them have feathery feet.

Because I'm like, okay, they're the divas. Oh, my gosh.

That's amazing.

And poor Lynette, she's a splash of Americana and she has like really fluffy cheeks because poor Lynette was always stressed out.

You know, she looks a little frazzled.

A little hairy.

Yes.

Oh my God. This is the sweetest thing I've ever heard.

And Brie.

Is a Jubilee Orpington, because is that not the most Brie Vandenkamp name you've ever heard?

A Jubilee.

It sounds like something she might serve on Thanksgiving.

Jubilee Orlington a l'orange.

Yeah, exactly.

Yes, exactly.

Wow, that is so amazing. How many times have you watched the show? Have you seen it through?

Oh, yes.

I'm on my third rewatch. Okay. So the first time I watched it was like in my early 20s. I'm 30 now.

And then the second time I watched it, I was pretty freshly postpartum and it's like so interesting being able to rewatch the show at different phases of your own life and like have a totally different perspective.

Yeah.

Do you have one thing that's like sort of stuck out to you that felt different?

Yes. Oh my gosh.

In season one, when I rewatched it when I was postpartum, the episode where Lynette kind of has a breakdown and Susan and Bree find her at the soccer field and she's crying saying she doesn't feel like she's a great mom and And Brie told her, even I had a hard time. I would cry when my babies napped. And Lynette was like, why don't we talk about this more?

We need to talk about this. I just like bawled when I watched that after I had my son. Because I was like, that is so true. Even still now, that is so relatable.

I have to say, I completely agree with you. I have a seven and a half month old.

And my experience, even having been on the show, but re-watching it myself, it has changed so drastically the way I sympathize with the different characters and their different journeys of motherhood. And it's one of my favorite things about rewatching the show. So I'm right there with you.

I love it. Yeah. It's been amazing to rewatch it. That's so great.

I think fans would really like to hear that because, you know, it's streaming on Hulu right now and you can rewatch it again. And I mean, we're rewatching it, of course. And I was thinking that just this morning when I was looking at the first episode of season two, this idea that this really does resonate. It somehow has this tonal thing where it's grounded in some truth, but then it's still comedic. And it just makes it like something you just want to have on in the background because it makes you feel comfortable.

Totally.

And since you had it on three times, we are really excited to get into some trivia about Desperate Housewives.

We have a couple questions for you. Mom, I know you had a question that you wanted to ask first.

I do. Now, we're going to ask you three questions.

And it's fine if you don't know the answer to any of them, because I probably wouldn't.

Yeah, but also, we're going to give you a prize anyway.

Spoiler alert.

Because I just can't turn people away, so we're going to give you... One of these desperately devoted coffee mugs we're going to send you and probably an autographed picture or something else we dig out of my garage. Anyway, forget me. All right. Here's our first trivia question and we hope you get it. And you have one guess and only 10 seconds left. I've always wanted to do that.

I'm just kidding. You can take as long as you want.

Okay.

What city is Wisteria Lane in? And where in this episode of season two, episode one, is that fact revealed?

In Fairview?

It is in Fairview. And do you.

Know from, do you remember where you saw that information?

Was it the high school or was it the hospital? The hospital. I think it probably could have.

Those are correct answers.

In episode two, I mean, episode one of season two, it was actually on the real estate sign in the Applewhite's front yard. But the fact that you got Fairview right off the bat, ding, ding, ding, you win.

Okay, next question.

Okay, I have a toughie for you, okay?

Oh, gosh, okay.

All right. What is the name of Rex's childhood teddy bear?

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

I don't remember. But I remember it was in his casket in his service.

Oh, my gosh.

You know what?

I wish that I wish that he could have had the benefit of your naming skills because you did so great with your chicken.

So but the answer is do little.

Too little.

I didn't know that one either.

By the way, just the fact that you knew that there was a teddy bear and it was even remotely involved with the funeral of Rex is way more than I remember. Yes.

Okay.

Moving away from Rex, do you know the name of the ad agency that hires Lynette?

Oh, my gosh. I know Nina Fletcher is her boss, but I do not remember.

This is a great thing to know.

Yes.

I remember so many weird little details. I can't quite remember the agency name. But I remember Nina is her boss. I think she gets points.

I think you get points for knowing the first and last name.

Of the boss.

The agency is called Parcher and Murphy. So where we learn that information, I honestly couldn't tell you.

But you win because you got so close and you got things right.

And I also.

Heard that you may have some questions prepared for us to try to stump us.

Okay.

I certainly do. Oh, gosh.

Okay.

Okay, are we ready?

I don't know if you've heard about our Susan drinking game when Terry says, I don't remember, everybody has to take a shot. So get ready, people. Let's get your alcohol out.

Okay. Here we go. Okay. Question one.

When Susan falls through the floor in Mike's bathroom, she asks Bongo for help.

What does Bongo bring her?

I think I know this one. Okay, take it, take it.

Hit your buzzer.

I actually feel like I know this one.

I never know anything.

Spit it out.

Isn't it a dead bird?

Yes, it is.

Look at that.

I finally got one.

Oh, all of the people who wanted to take a shot can't now.

Yeah, well, they can't now. You're going to have to just hang on to your coffee.

I'm sure I'm going to not know something.

Is there another one?

Yes. Okay.

What were one of the items that the Scavo boys stole from Mrs.

McCluskey?

Oh, I know, I know, I know. I'm taking it.

I ding-dinged.

I said, I know, I know, I know. All right, do you want to answer together in unison? We're going to say the same thing.

You think we are?

Okay, ready? Three, two, one.

A clock.

A flower pot. Yes.

Wait, flower pot, what did you say?

A clock.

Yes. Oh, yeah. Those are both of them.

We're both correct.

Wow.

Give us our mugs.

There's your mug right there.

Do we get a chicken? You could.

You could.

Okay, my last question. Whose tie did Rex end up being buried in?

Oh, I got it.

We all know it.

Yeah, we all know it.

Go take it.

No, no, you take it.

I'm going to say it because I'm so impressed because I never know anything. So it's unbelievable that I was able to answer two things, but it's Tom's.

Yes, it is.

It happens to be one of my favorite Tom moments.

I actually thought that maybe the answer for the mystery of why Susan's wearing this is because they were going to use it as a tie, as something involving switching out the tie.

Yes, I love that part. Well, thank you, Casey.

Thank you so much for the questions and thank you for joining us. And it's just, it's so nice to connect with our fans. It's one of the reasons we're doing this show. And I've always wanted a chicken coop, but now I want one even more.

She really has. So now all bets are.

And I'm going to rip off your name. Chicksteria Lane.

Chicksteria Lane. That's fabulous. Chicksteria Lane. It doesn't get any.

Better than that.

And the Desperate Henwives.

The Desperate Henwives.

Thank you so much, Casey.

Thank you, Casey.

Thank you so much. Have a great day. Bye.

Thanks so much.

And that is next. Thank you so much for watching. We're so glad to be back and so happy that you've joined us on this journey.

If you want to watch along with us, episodes of Desperate Housewives are streaming now on Hulu.

We'll see you back on Mysterio Lane this Thursday for our deep dive into this episode with a special guest, Brenda Strong.

And as always, we are desperately devoted to you.

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