Episode 518 w/ Shyne

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0:15 He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, it's your boy N.O.R.E.

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1:05 He's been through it all. Standing tall.

1:11 Got a great album dropped by The Drop. No one thought of this. He was a politician. He's a rapper. He's everything that you want to be. And we're going to give him his flowers today. We're going to show this praise. Motherfucker, shine in the building! I don't know. Do you still call you Sean Poe? Or no, no Poe?

1:32 Leave the Poe alone?

1:33 We promoting the new album.

1:35 Okay, yes.

1:36 Which you just heard.

1:37 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

1:39 Right?

1:40 So no Sean Poe or still Sean Poe? I mean Sean.

1:42 Okay, okay, okay, okay. It all goes.

1:45 It's not Sean Poe, Al Poe, but Sean Poe, Edgar Allen Poe.

1:50 Exactly, exactly.

1:51 Okay, okay, okay. Now, I'm going to bounce around a little bit because you got the Belize hat on. I just got word that they're building the Four Seasons in the Belize.

2:01 Yeah, they're building the Four Seasons on Key Chapel.

2:06 Okay.

2:06 Yeah, that's a key out there.

2:07 Okay. That's dope. I needed the beers, by the way, man. You brought the beers last time. I really enjoyed the beers. Now, he in artist mode. He in artist mode right now.

2:15 No, no, no.

2:16 You know, I just came from California. I was in the studio with Dre.

2:22 Let's make some noise. Just for the record, I went to Dre first.

2:28 Okay, yeah. You heard that from me. Nah, you heard me. You my brother. You know what I'm saying? I did see the pictures first. I ain't gonna lie.

2:36 I think it was me.

2:37 I think it was you, me.

2:43 No, no, no.

2:44 Well, actually, you recorded. See, I think I hung with him first, but you recorded. You recorded before me. Nah, I think Sean... I was out there for a year. I was out there. We were smoking cigars.

2:55 Remember, I went out there after Nas' opening of Coit.

3:00 Coit. Not the one in New York.

3:01 Me and you was at Coit together. Nah, I was there before you. Okay, okay.

3:05 I'm listening to that. And we're going to talk about how that happened.

3:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:09 Let's talk about that.

3:10 So how'd you hook up with Drex?

3:13 Uh, you know, I lost my seat in the Belize House of Representatives.

3:17 Okay.

3:19 Um, and that was devastating for me.

3:22 I had no interest or intention of returning to the stage or returning to the mic. In fact, when I put out the honorable documentary that's on Hulu right now, if you haven't seen it, number one documentary.

3:37 Goddamn, make some noise for that.

3:38 Yeah. I was supposed to put out the honorable album, which is the name of the album that you just heard.

3:44 Right, right.

3:45 Which is coming fourth quarter.

3:47 But I didn't have the bandwidth because I was so focused on policy. Right.

3:52 Focused on changing the lives of Belizeans. Right. That's the most overwhelming thing.

3:59 Divine responsibility that I've ever had other than raising my daughter, who's here with me, by the way.

4:05 Naomi, I love you. We're on her.

4:08 Little summer vacation while I'm still working, but I try to do the best for her. I didn't have the bandwidth to make what I made, because what I made, I think, is album of the year. No disrespect to Drake. I love Drake's album. It inspires me. Boy Wonder is on the album.

4:26 Wow.

4:28 I hope I get a drink first.

4:29 You know, we're supposed to feel like we're creating this album.

4:33 It doesn't make sense to create this. No disrespect.

4:38 But that's what I owe. My people, that's what I owe the audience. That's what I owe the Shine fans.

4:45 Right.

4:46 Because their first Shine album was a classic. Yes, it was.

4:48 And others would argue that Godfather Buried Alive was a classic, which I celebrate the 22nd anniversary of that.

4:55 And Godfather Buried Alive is the one you dropped when you was in the camp. Yes, which went number one.

4:59 Right, right.

5:00 That was the green album.

5:01 Did you ever see the fandom running around? You know how it's like.

5:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

5:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I imagine some of us rappers who was home and didn't have the budget to have a goddamn fan. It was like, what the fuck is Sean doing?

5:18 But go ahead, continue, my bad.

5:19 Yeah, so I'm competing against a legacy of classics.

5:25 So when I lost my seat, I said.

5:27 Hey, never one to be discouraged, never one to be displaced. And to lose myself in sorrow, I came up with a plan and I said, hey, listen, I got time now. Let me make that honorable album. Let me put that memoir out. Let me build these resorts in Belize. Let me do this Brooklyn Chophouse with Don Poole.

5:54 I came up with it.

5:54 In Belize?

5:55 Yes.

5:55 Oh, Trap House is going to be opening. That's why we saw you at the one here, right? Yes, yes. That's why you saw what? I saw him at the one out here in Wynwood.

6:02 Oh, Wynwood.

6:03 That is such a great idea.

6:04 Don Poole is my big brother.

6:06 We've been working together since 97. But I came up with the vision board. So I said, all right, the honorable album.

6:18 Dr. Dre. Swiss Beats. Timbaland. Brisa.

6:25 Hit Boy, Boy Wonder, and... Wait, you wrote this out?

6:30 This is before you spoke?

6:31 I wrote this out before I spoke to anybody.

6:33 Okay, okay.

6:34 Like a division boy. I never met Dr.

6:36 Dre in my life. He said a division boy, yeah.

6:38 I never met Dr. Dre in my life.

6:40 Wow, wow.

6:41 But I had the division boy, and he was number one.

6:44 Wow.

6:45 And just to put it in perspective, all those producers that I name, to me, are the greatest of all time.

6:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:54 And they're the gods of producing. So it's like being in a solar system. You go to Dre, you on one planet in.

7:05 The solar system. You go to Timbo, you on another planet, but you with the gods. But I went to California. I had the vision board. So Big Boy hit me.

7:17 Now, which Big Boy? Outkast or Big Boy Radio? No, Big Boy from Radio. He hit me.

7:24 Randomly, it was like, yo, Sean, man, you know, I really got love for you. I appreciate everything you're doing with the politics and in Belize.

7:31 You know, I just wanted to just give you my regards.

7:35 That's random, too. Random.

7:36 I said, come in L.A.

7:38 Put me on the big boy show. And I just knew when I went to L.A., I was going to meet Dre. So I told Big, I said, listen, I need to see Dre. He was like, easy call.

7:53 Then me and my guy Manny, Imani Haley.

7:56 Who's a big time movie producer now, used to be a music executive, Keisha Cole, Future, Nicki Minaj, myself. Big hit me and said, listen, I'm going to Snoop's birthday.

8:12 Pull up.

8:13 So I went to Snoop's birthday party. And then we saw Smitty. And so Smitty's like, yo, You know, Smitty's from New York.

8:23 Yo, Sha.

8:23 Yo, yo, yo.

8:25 Let me bring Sha to Dre. That's Smitty on the hook, right? That's Smitty on one of the Dre records. And so he's like, let me bring him to Dre. He's saying that to you. No, he's saying that to Manny. Okay, okay, okay.

8:38 Right?

8:39 So he wanted to bring me to Dre. Yes. I want to go meet Dre.

8:43 You got Dre's ear. That's his right hand.

8:46 In a great way. And that's what happened. And so I was supposed to leave.

8:52 And I extended my stay so I could go meet Dre, but the secret is he didn't want to meet me to make records, because if you know Dre.

9:02 He'd fill you out first.

9:03 Nah, it's just, you know, one week he might feel like, some other week he might want to take a break. You know, he does what he wants to do when he wants to do it when it comes to music. And so he's very particular as to what he does when he does it.

9:19 Right.

9:20 But he agreed to meet with me as a man.

9:22 Mm-hmm.

9:23 As a man of integrity.

9:24 Mm-hmm.

9:25 As an honorable man.

9:26 That's real. As a world leader.

9:28 Mm-hmm. And then once we sat down, he was like, oh, man, I'm with you.

9:36 Yeah.

9:37 Mm-hmm.

9:37 Let's go downstairs. Mm-hmm. And he played me a bunch of records.

9:41 Mm-hmm.

9:43 And the relationship started right there.

9:45 Got that.

9:45 Yeah.

9:45 But Smitty... Right.

9:46 Yeah. It's the glue. Shout out to Smitty, man.

9:50 Shout out to Smitty.

9:51 Because Smitty hit me with the records. You know, Dre loved this record. Dre loved that record. And then I did my part. But more Dre, I don't want to give too much. I just want to say that I learned so much.

10:07 Yeah, me too. From that. So much.

10:12 And not knowing.

10:17 but then realizing as an after fact, because, you know, I got that Belize, that Brooklyn resilience, and I could do anything, like you said, and you don't even know how you're going to do anything, but you just know you're going to do it.

10:30 So you just go.

10:33 Dre gave me my jokes. He gave me that energy. He gave me that, you know, like.

10:42 Phil Jackson, Pat Riley telling you, We starting you. We know that you.

10:49 Can lead us to the championship. Go ahead. Go do that. You know what's funny about Drake's part when he cut you off was. I never really got to work with Puff. Puff was one of the best producers of the East Coast. When the hit makers and all that. They said that it would be an army in the studio. I never knew that until I met with Dre. When I got in the studio with Dre, there was one dude that was just for the vocals. There was one dude that was just for the bass. I had never seen that before.

11:19 I felt like I went through boot camp because he kept making me do my verses over.

11:23 I was like, I'm a marathon runner.

11:25 I'm I'm not doing it. So, like, I felt like he was trying to, like, at one point, like, let me see if I can crack Nori.

11:32 Nah, he just wants perfection.

11:34 He wants perfection.

11:35 That's what I was going to tell you. So, I did one of the records you heard, and I thought it was perfect. So, I'm like, Doc, coming to see you. It's like, pull up. So, I played it just the same way I played it here.

11:52 Oh, he deteriorated.

11:53 Hold on, hold on.

11:54 The staff is like, oh, this is crazy. So he's like, yeah, I love it.

12:02 Hold on, hold on.

12:03 He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. You mind if I change a few things? You don't mind if we change a few things, right? Second verse, change a few things.

12:12 First verse, change a few things. Stop.

12:16 Stop.

12:16 You kind of want that. Go ahead, go ahead.

12:18 No, I mean, I'm just happy to be here. I'm not happy to be here. I want to be Mike. I'm like Mike coming back after he went to play for the White Sox.

12:26 Or the Wizards.

12:27 No, no, no, no.

12:28 No, the white side. It's okay. Oh, when he played baseball. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

12:31 We came back.

12:31 We came back playing baseball. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm coming back to win the chip. I'll follow you.

12:36 Okay, okay, okay.

12:36 I'm coming back to win the chip.

12:38 Uh-huh, uh-huh. Not the Wizards. So, yeah, I'm like, whatever, Doc, anything. So I came back.

12:45 First time in my life anybody ever helped me write my rhymes.

12:53 Ever, right? Right.

12:56 Scrapped the whole second verse.

12:57 Right.

12:58 And we wrote that together.

12:59 Right.

13:00 We wrote his verse together.

13:02 Right.

13:03 And then my first verse, he scrapped the second eight bars, kept the first eight bars.

13:09 Right. And then we wrote that together.

13:11 Right.

13:12 But in the sense of like, change the melody.

13:16 I want you to change the melody.

13:18 And then I spit something like, and you know, I heard that before. Give me something else. And we went back and forth like that. Yeah, we was in there the whole day. It came out great. I didn't think it could be better. It's perfect.

13:35 His verse, he sound like chronic. Yeah, so that was a blessing. And like you said, like, Dre is really, like, the criticism, like, he does what he wanted to do.

13:50 Like, I love that, man. Congratulations, man, to you. Thank God, man. Listen.

14:00 Is it hard to navigate because, like... Like, when you were in politics, when you was doing your thing, like, you were into that. Like, one thing about you I could always see is, like, whatever you... It's 100%. So, like, I looked at your tour dates, bro. I ain't going to lie to you, bro. I was like, yo... That man is working too much. Like, you don't got dates in between. Yeah, you too.

14:25 I got a few dates in between.

14:26 I didn't see him. I didn't see him, like, in the first October. Because I think it's October 9th you start, right?

14:31 I go, like, back, no, we start the 21st in Denver. But October? Yeah, October 21st in Denver. No, it's like two days.

14:40 Okay. Then a day. Okay. Then three days. Oh, okay.

14:43 I didn't see it.

14:44 Because I just seen the dates back to back and I'm just like, yo, bro.

14:48 And this is your first tour?

14:49 How long?

14:50 This is my first tour ever. I never got.

14:55 A chance to talk.

14:57 We put out the Shine album September 26, 2000. There's October, November, December. I'm recording Godfather Buried Alive because the album was recorded while I was waiting to go to trial.

15:18 January, we're picking the juries. February. We're on trial.

15:23 March.

15:24 I'm convicted. March 16th.

15:25 Damn. Wow.

15:26 So I might have did like two shows.

15:29 I might have did a show with Khaled here in Miami, and I did a show at Nassau Coliseum, and I only performed Bad Boys, Bonnie and Sean as Gangsta.

15:38 That's why King's Theater, which I sold out in Brooklyn.

15:41 On May 2nd.

15:41 You know what you're talking about?

15:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

15:44 I got fucked up.

15:45 I got fucked up. Yeah, yeah.

15:48 But, yeah, big respect to Dipset. Right. Joel's AZ came through. Bless me. No C's. He was going on tour with me. Right. On the 26-22 tour on Barrington Levy.

15:58 Yeah, Barrington Levy.

15:59 But I never got a chance to tour. Yo, I never thought that, yo. I never performed the Shine album.

16:04 Yo. So now everybody gets to hear that.

16:07 So now what I'm going to do is because... So I did the Shine album. Brooklyn really got something special. I did the Shine album. But on this tour, that's why I call it 26-22, I need to merge both because people love the Godfather Buried Alive.

16:21 Right, right, right.

16:22 Right?

16:23 There's some... Some classics on there. Just Blaze, Diamonds, and Act 10.

16:27 You got The Joint with Foxy Brown, more or less. You got The Gang with Foxy Brown. I got joints on there with Corrupt, Daz, and Nate Dogg. Kanye West produced records on there. We got some great records on there. Bob Marley's on there. Yeah, so I'm going to merge them.

16:47 That's why it's 26-22.

16:49 So I'm going to do the best of the Shine album, the best of the Godfather Buried Alive album, a lot of those features that I got with Usher, with Keisha Cole, with Total, with 112.

17:01 Yeah. I love the fact that you bring in Lil' C's with you and Baron Tlebi.

17:08 C's got, listen, when I brought C's out, I mean, I know it's Brooklyn. You're talking about the Brooklyn show, okay. Yeah, I know it's Brooklyn.

17:14 Right.

17:15 The crowd went crazy, but those records gonna.

17:19 Ring in 52 states. Yes, yes. Right?

17:22 You know, God bless B.I.G.

17:23 Of course.

17:24 He did the biggest records with B.I.G. Get Money Remix, Players Anthem, Crush On You. Those are hip hop records that are going to live forever. So, you know, it's a good, it breaks the monotony of the show. Because, you know, when I'm creating a show, I'm creating a work of art, right? I'm creating an experience. And so, you know, you got to break it up. There's no intermission.

17:47 So it's a good time for him to come out. He's going to come out and do his thing and get the crowd going.

17:52 And he got the hits. He got hits. I'm not doing him a favor. He's doing me a favor.

17:57 But it answers the question because I remember the whole controversy when you first came out, right? The comparison of you and Big when you first came out.

18:05 And... I remember it straight up.

18:08 I remember... I believe we said this before, but I remember us hearing about you.

18:14 We didn't know how you looked.

18:15 Yeah.

18:16 And then us not.

18:17 Only hearing about you, and the rumor was, yo, he sound like big, but he's a skinny guy, right?

18:23 And then... And then.

18:26 We heard about your publishing deal. So we're like, wait a minute. Not only you got a million dollar deal here, but you got, I think, a $ 980, 000, which is fucking a million.

18:36 Dollars, you might as well say. And I remember like.

18:39 It's a good investment.

18:41 Wouldn't you say?

18:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

18:42 But what I'm saying is, so what I'm saying is, and we heard about, like, and then for you to make it 360 and actually bring Biggie's right-hand man with you on your very first tour, that shit is just, like, that shit is comic.

18:57 That shit is storytelling, like, you.

18:59 Know what I mean? At its best, like, you know what I mean?

19:00 Yeah, but I think that has to do with the fact that We passed that. Nobody thinks about that. The Sean albums are classics. The Sean albums stood the test of time. Sean stood the test of time. There's a reason the Sean stood the test of time. The Sean sold out first show back. There's a reason that The goats of, you know, hip-hop producing opened the door for me.

19:25 Like, we way past that.

19:27 So for me, it's just more, I'm a Brooklyn guy, and, you know, Cease is my guy, and he got the hits.

19:34 You know, Kiss took him out. He got the hits, right? He got the hits.

19:39 And so it's a good part of my show, along with Barrington Levy.

19:43 And we're gonna have other other.

19:45 Surprises but i heard you say earlier um yeah so it's gonna be one there's no breaks in between it's you sees embarrassing leave you all out all at once no we're gonna have surprises okay yeah but they coming out on mosh okay oh so it's basically shine featuring that's what the headline is barrington let me do his own joints too He's going to do a few of his jokes. That's what I'm saying.

20:08 We're creating an experience. You didn't come to the King's Kids show.

20:13 Stop saying that. You're supposed to come. I got you. Skateboard Pete couldn't come, but you're going to make it up. I got you. I got you. I see the Miami date.

20:28 I believe it's in November, Miami date.

20:30 No, December.

20:31 December, okay.

20:32 We got to go. I've got nothing to do in December.

20:34 So, nah, so the way that was, that was an experience. So we did the records, and then at certain points, you know, I brought C's out. I brought, you know, Dipset out. But I did it, I curated it along with the records that I was doing. So, like, after I did That's Gangsta, I brought out Dipset to do against.

20:54 The music, right?

20:55 You know, when I did the.

20:57 Phone tap remix that we got with Faith and.

21:00 Carl Thomas, you got nominated for a Grammy for that. I was like, yeah, but you know, we can't do that. And I bring, and the AZ came out and the crowd lost it, right? So it's a curated experience. And then we got other guests, you know, when I go to the West, Right. We don't know what's going to happen when I go to LA.

21:17 Yeah, yeah.

21:18 Right, I got a lot of friends out there.

21:20 Yes, yes.

21:20 The Game is my little brother again. Yes, yes, yes. You know YG.

21:24 Yes.

21:24 My little bro. All right.

21:25 Hit boy, hit boy on the album.

21:27 Okay.

21:28 And you know Doc. You know Doc don't really come out the house.

21:31 Yeah, yeah.

21:31 You never know what's going to happen.

21:33 Yeah, yeah.

21:33 So I'll be moving around and I got friends everywhere. So it's going to be some great experiences.

21:37 I know you didn't lose touch while you was doing the political stuff, but did you feel.

21:42 Like it was, was it, To change hats.

21:46 I mean, that's why I wanted you to hear it. Does it sound like that?

21:51 No, not at all. But I'm talking about you as the man, the feeling.

21:54 Did it feel like you had to change focus or be just changed? It's a different world. It's almost a similar world, actually, believe it or not. But it's different worlds.

22:06 Yeah, but I was never of the world.

22:08 When I first got into the music industry, I was a street kid that.

22:14 He was doing street things. But there's a lot of street shit in politics, too.

22:19 No, but what I'm saying is I was never of a music industry world.

22:23 Right, I got you.

22:23 I was always an outsider. And I was always an artist. And so my artistry was always based on my experiences. And I've had 47 years of experiences. And so even though I was involved in politics, I still had a lot of experiences that I didn't get to really share with the public. And even in politics, there's experiences... you know, my next album is the rap prime minister. This new album is the honorable sort of rap prime minister. I'll get more into the political gangsterisms and all of the corruption and different things that I faced there. So as an artist, I just had to focus on being an artist. Um, and so that transition was seamless for me because.

23:12 I'm an artist.

23:12 Like I love making music and, and in parliament, um, is an artistry. When you put a speech together, that is an artistry. You can't be dry. You can't be long-winded. You have an intro. You have a climax. And you got to close.

23:32 Out as strong as you started.

23:34 So I never lost my ability to put things together and to describe the truths that the Belizean people were facing And so now it's putting this album together.

23:44 It's really just having a conversation.

23:45 That I've had on all the podcasts and all the interviews, right? Sharing my view on the world, sharing my view on Belize, sharing my view on... me as a man, the different sacrifices that I made and my perspective on things that have happened over the last 16 years, maybe 23 years since I was released and had to serve that unjust incarceration.

24:16 So it's really just when you listen to.

24:20 People's albums, I think I'll tell you three of the great albums that I've listened to over the last 12.

24:26 Months, in my humble opinion, in no particular order, right?

24:32 But let's just go from most recent to the oldest.

24:38 Iceman is an incredible album.

24:40 Drake. Yeah, incredible album. Incredible promotion as well.

24:45 Nah, let's not even get into no marketing promotion. I loved it though. As an artist, as a rapper, bars, you know, entendres, flows, I love it. GNX.

25:04 Kendrick.

25:05 Kendrick. Love it. Classic. Drake classic. GNX sounds nothing like Iceman, right? Two different planets.

25:18 Vice versa, yep.

25:19 But incredible, incredible artistry. You learn so much, be so inspired. And the God sought him out.

25:29 Clips. Clips, yeah, okay.

25:30 Right? Again, sounds nothing like the other two.

25:33 Right. And generationally different.

25:35 Which is great.

25:36 Everybody having their own conversation. Kendrick talking about His life and how he sees the world. Drake talking about life from his perspective. Malice and Push talking about life from their perspective. And that's always been hip-hop. Hip-hop has been Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, De La Soul.

25:57 Right.

25:58 Right?

25:58 Child Called Quest. Totally different perspectives, right. N.W.A. Public Enemy.

26:03 Public Enemy.

26:05 Right?

26:06 D.O.C.

26:08 Eazy-E.

26:09 Mm-hmm.

26:10 Ice Cube.

26:10 Ghetto Boys. DJ Quick.

26:13 Ghetto Boys.

26:14 Bone Thugs.

26:17 Queen Latifah. MC Lyte. KRS-One.

26:22 Grand Poobah.

26:25 Fat Joe. Granddaddy IU.

26:28 Right?

26:29 So I'm just saying that there's no there's no one version of hip-hop. There's no one style of hip hop. I think the one constant in hip hop is authenticity. Right.

26:45 Absolutely.

26:46 And you presenting you.

26:48 Yep. And so it's never hard for me to be me because I've always been me. But I think people had a question. Well, how do you go from world leader? But you listen to Kendrick on GNX. He's like, mention me with the world leaders. Mm.

27:04 Oh, well, I happen to be a word reader.

27:06 Right.

27:06 Mm-hmm. Oh, I can't forget Cole. I can't forget Cole. Can't forget Cole. He dropped an album this year?

27:12 The Fall Off. Okay, okay. The Fall Off.

27:14 The Fall Off. He got some joints on there. Right. Got some joints on there. Right. And one of the joints, he says, you know, if I was a rapper, I would be president.

27:27 Mm.

27:28 Well, I was about to be president and I'm still a rapper. So I embraced that. That's part of my superhero juice.

27:38 Part of my superhero electricity that no one has done what I've done.

27:44 And so I took it as a challenge.

27:46 Who else?

27:47 Like people, they like to say that, you know, I'm Barack.

27:51 Yeah.

27:52 I'm Obama.

27:53 That's fire.

27:54 But I'm just saying. Obama's fire. He loves music. But he never put out a classic album.

28:00 Right, right.

28:02 I was literally the opposition leader of the House of Representatives, which is the prime minister-in-waiting.

28:07 So when I say I'm a world leader, that's not Cap. Right. And I also put out.

28:12 A platinum classic album and a gold classic album and sold over 50 million records.

28:18 Wow.

28:18 Who can say that?

28:19 Right.

28:20 And to take.

28:21 That and to put that on my new album, albums, I already got a head start, right? So I hope I answered your question as far as getting back in.

28:32 But remember, I lost my seat. So once I lost my seat.

28:36 My responsibility in a professional capacity to my constituency and to Belize It ceased. Now, I still continue with my personal commitment. I still have a personal commitment to the people of Belize. That's why I have this hat on.

28:52 That's right.

28:53 Right?

28:54 And it will always be Belize. I still give charity.

28:57 I still give out laptops, small business grants, education.

29:04 Grants.

29:05 Everything is Belize. I'm doing resorts in Belize, the Brooklyn Chophouse in Belize. I'm in Belize every month. I just met with Sylvia Rhone. She's like my godmother. Mother played her the album. She said it's perfect. And she's like, would you move to the States?

29:24 No.

29:26 Why did you say so quick? I'm like, because I have a plan. I still want to be the prime minister of Belize. I went through a lot of fraud, electoral fraud. I was overthrown in a coup in my political party.

29:39 Your own. political party?

29:40 Own political party.

29:41 And so I.

29:45 Had to take a breath, take a pause. And the people of Belize are now saying, man, where's Shine?

29:54 Because the person that overthrew me It's a waste of time, completely incompetent, complete fraud. But it's important that I'm doing what I'm doing so that they can understand that once I made that commitment, that was a sacrifice that I was making.

30:12 I was never doing that because I had nothing else to do.

30:16 Right.

30:16 I was doing that because that was my path. Philanthropy, service.

30:23 Yeah.

30:25 That filled my soul.

30:26 That was a calling.

30:26 It's still my calling.

30:28 Right.

30:28 Because the day after I lost, I went back to my constituency. I gave out a power washer, industrial power washer to a youth that asked me for it on the campaign trail. And even though I lost, I went back the next day and did that and I kept going back. But once I lost, then I took time and I said, okay, what am I going to do?

30:54 And once, like you said, once I decide what I'm going to do, then I'm 100 in. Yeah.

31:00 I still keep Belize on my shoulders, still keep Belize.

31:03 In my heart and my mind, but now I have the freedom to devote everything to making the best music.

31:10 If you would have won, would you think you still would have made the album?

31:13 Absolutely not.

31:14 Not, right? No. Okay.

31:16 No.

31:17 But why not, though? Because being a political leader at that level.

31:22 Okay, okay.

31:24 It's not for show.

31:26 Okay.

31:27 It's the same way as being a musician. A Grammy award-winning musician is not for play either.

31:33 Right, right.

31:34 So that's why I have a plan.

31:36 Right.

31:37 I have five albums. I'm going to release an album every year. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

31:42 Yeah.

31:42 First album, The Honorable. Next album, Rap Prime Minister next year. AM, PM, 1236, 2028. Art, Actual Intelligence, 2029. And Belizean Breeze.

31:48 Um.

31:48 2030.

31:58 And then I'll go back to parliament if I'm fortunate enough to be elected by the people of Belize, right?

32:04 That's why I go back to Belize at least once.

32:07 A month and I spend time there and I don't want to transplant my daughter and that's my home. I told the people of Belize that I love them and I was going to dedicate my life to them. And that hasn't changed. But I can't just sit around and do nothing. And hey, I happen to be a Grammy Award winning, you know, writer, performer, recording artist.

32:32 Why not put it to use?

32:33 Why not, you know, share, you know, my story that I plan to do, but I just couldn't do because I was busy with Parliament.

32:42 I got memoirs.

32:42 I got three memoirs that I'm putting out. But now the definitive Shine memoir, then I'm going to do Book of Moses memoir, which is like my spiritual information that I'll be sharing with the world, how I went from, you know.

32:58 Not religious to religious to spiritual.

33:02 Mm-hmm.

33:02 And then I put out my political memoir to talk about the political gangsters that overthrew me and corruption and clientelism and what I think needs to happen for Belize to finally realize her full potential.

33:15 But like I said, and even all that I just.

33:18 Said, that's a lot to discuss.

33:21 So if you listen to what I'm saying, I'm not talking like anybody.

33:27 I'm talking like me.

33:28 I'm talking about things that I've been through, things that I'm going through.

33:32 Vision that I have for not just Belize, but the world.

33:36 You know, that's the difference between this album and the other earlier albums was like, you know, it was like more on the street role, right? But now you're speaking like more like on a grown man tip. Like if I could compare it to any other album comparable, I would say like 444, right?

33:53 Like, you know what I mean?

33:54 Like Jay was rhyming from right now. That's what I feel like what you're doing. This is now music, you know what I mean?

34:01 Yeah.

34:02 Does that affect.

34:05 Like the other day.

34:08 I was in with Hitmaker, not Heatmaker, Hitmaker, Youngberg, right?

34:13 I was in, and I was sitting there right in the bar, and I was about to say, like, hoes still be around, and I'm like, hoes don't be around me? Like, I can't say that. I literally, I'm literally a married man. Like, I literally sounded, like, I literally looked at the bar, and before I wrote it down, I was just like, nah, man, like, does that affect you?

34:34 We'll see.

34:36 I think Music is timeless and ageless.

34:41 Mm-hmm.

34:42 And once you're cool, you're cool.

34:44 Mm-hmm.

34:45 Like, I think Hov is going to always be cool. Mm-hmm. I think I'll always be cool.

34:50 Mm-hmm.

34:50 Right?

34:50 Let's make some noise for that.

34:52 Yeah.

34:53 I just... Go ahead. I think world leader Sheik is cool. Mm-hmm. That's cool.

34:59 Say world leader chic.

35:01 World leader chic, right?

35:03 To go from being Harry O and the real Rick Ross and the Supremes who were trafficking, some would say.

35:16 the narcotics for the presidents.

35:19 And because you heard the record, that's why I talk about clientele with George Bush when he was director of CIA, Iran Contra. So we used to be used as instruments of destruction in our communities in order for them to get that dark money to do covert operations throughout the world. How fly is that to go from that to as a hip hopper? You know, Barack Obama was not.

35:45 A hip hopper. He was a Harvard... No, he was a Harvard.

35:48 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:49 He get fired like a hip-hopper, though. No, I mean, he's a cool guy.

35:52 He's cool, too.

35:53 I'm not taking anything away from him, but I'm a street kid, hip-hop connoisseur, hip-hop recording artist. I'm the first hip-hopper to get elected to the House of Representatives.

36:06 Fuck him.

36:10 Ever.

36:10 Anyway, respect to do it all. Got elected as a councilman.

36:15 Newark, okay.

36:16 You got elected as a councilman.

36:17 I'm Lord of the Underground.

36:19 Lord of the Underground.

36:20 But the House of Representatives is the highest thing in any country, and I made it to the highest office as an opposition leader, not to pat myself on the back. Nah, hell yeah, I'll pat yourself on the back. To go from that, you know, to the highest level... That's a lot to have a conversation about. And that's what I said.

36:40 That's the coolest thing, because now my vision is for the young men and women to be like the Bob Smiths and the Bob Peebles and the Baracks.

36:53 And the Shines.

36:55 What's cooler?

36:56 Being a world leader.

36:58 What's cooler than growing, than evolving, than being a great father, than having dignity? Because everybody doesn't have to be a billionaire. Everybody doesn't have to be Elon Musk. Everybody doesn't have to be a prime minister or a president or Nori or Sean. Having dignity, having character. To me, that's cool.

37:21 I respect that.

37:22 Whether you live in a modest bungalow, you know, you got a modest mortgage and a modest car. If you have dignity, you have character, integrity, there's nothing cooler than that to me. And so that's my conversation. But to pick up on what you said, I actually got a record with Hit-Boy.

37:44 Mm-hmm.

37:45 Um, and I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. So, obviously, um, you know, I still talk about the women. I was recently divorced. Mm-hmm. Um, I was separated for, like, five years.

37:57 Oh, I didn't know that.

37:57 Yeah, yeah, but I, but I got divorced.

38:00 Mm-hmm.

38:00 Uh, my daughter's mother, incredible woman.

38:03 Mm-hmm. Um, we're great co-parents.

38:05 She's actually here right now with my daughter, so we go on family vac- even when we were separated.

38:10 We went on family vacations together.

38:12 Mm-hmm.

38:12 We're here on a family vacation now.

38:14 Mm-hmm.

38:15 But as a bachelor, you know, I engage.

38:22 With the opposite sex. He's so mad.

38:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. He's like, I'm still outside.

38:33 That was the most anxious way of saying it.

38:37 I'm still outside. That's why you got a hip boy record. Okay, okay.

38:41 Because the Hit-Boy, listen, when I went to see Hit-Boy, he hit me with some, you know, some New York, you know, because, you know, Hit-Boy, for whoever don't know who.

38:53 Hit-Boy is, that's Jay-Z.

38:55 Yes, my niggas in Paris.

38:57 That's Kanye. That's Beyonce.

38:59 That's Nas.

38:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yup.

39:01 He's everything. I never got a joint for Hit-Boy. But listen, when I went to see him, I was like, I want that. West, West.

39:10 Right.

39:11 I want that California bop. And actually, the name of the record is called Bop.

39:16 You always been smooth riding on West Coast beats. Yeah.

39:19 Listen, I was like, I want that California bop.

39:22 And when you hear this record, and it's about, you know, my engagement with a lovely.

39:28 With The Opposites?

39:29 No.

39:30 Ladies.

39:30 With lovely ladies, right?

39:32 And I do everything. But listen, you know, that's what I tell people. You know, I love my fans. I love my supporters, right? And I even got this Belize hat on in honor of my supporters because they be wanting to owe Sean so bad. But that's never going to happen. Respect to Hov. I didn't think he was going to do it. I used to use him as the template. Like, Hov ain't cutting his hair to go back on stage. No problem because he's an artist and artists, they paint their canvases in different ways. So if that was his experience that he wanted to give his supporters, I respect that.

40:08 I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. God damn it.

40:11 Look at this.

40:16 I'm not doing it. That's just not me.

40:19 Right.

40:20 I just wouldn't feel like the superhero I am being anything, you know, than what I am. But, you know, I can roll up the sleeves a little. You know, I don't have the double breast blazer on today. When I was opposition leader, I definitely had that blazer on. In the conversation that I'm having with.

40:45 The lovely lady on the Hit-Boy record.

40:48 It's the conversation that I have when I'm outside, as you said.

40:54 But I'm not really, I'm not.

40:56 You're not outside outside, but you are.

40:58 No, no, but I go.

40:59 You're on the patio. No, no, no, no, no.

41:02 I go to Brooklyn Chop House tonight to have dinner.

41:06 Okay.

41:07 I'm not going to have dinner with you.

41:08 Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

41:10 Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, maybe if you buy me a car, I'm going to have dinner.

41:18 You know, with a nice young lady.

41:19 Something that, you know, easy on the eyes.

41:22 So I'm just saying my conversation is my conversation.

41:27 And my conversation serves me well. My conversation serves me well. I'm very, very fortunate to know the most beautiful women in the world. and to have great friendships with some of the most beautiful women in the world. And they appreciate my conversation. So I'm not going to... I'm talking to them.

41:49 Why? I'm not talking to... This is.

41:51 The most eloquent way to say it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying as.

41:58 Far as a conversation, I'm not trying to have an 18-year-old's conversation. No, no, I'm just saying. So like an 18-year-old rapper... Pop Smoke will be having God bless his soul. Like whoever's the young rapper right now, you know, Lil Baby. They're going to have a different conversation.

42:17 Yeah. They outside. You a world leader or something. That's a totally different conversation.

42:22 You're going to love it when you hear the Hit-Boy record because it got a young boy bop to it, but it's a world leader talking.

42:31 Okay. So let me ask you something, right? Let me ask you something, right? This is an episode. And just let me clear up the Playboy thing. Okay.

42:39 No, no, no, no. I want that to be clear because that's not what I'm doing right now.

42:43 Okay, okay, okay. It's all jokes here.

42:45 No, no, no, no, no.

42:46 We got to clear that up. We got to clear that up. He know the internet. He know the internet. He know the internet. We got to clear that up. We got to clear that up.

42:54 After having been married and divorced, it was a very traumatic experience. Nothing against my ex-wife. As I said, she's a wonderful woman, and someone deserves her more than I do, and she deserves me.

43:13 The person that's right for her. I don't think.

43:16 So it's not, oh, her fault, my fault, but it's traumatic nonetheless because you gave everything to a situation and it didn't work out.

43:29 I will never do that again.

43:30 Not because of her, but because I can't afford that type of trauma. I can't afford that type of devastation. I can't afford that type of investment and attachment.

43:41 And then someone... Changes. I change.

43:46 You know, compatibility drifts apart. They don't want to wake up and fight for it anymore. Not saying that's what happened. I just know what could happen. And I never want to go through that again.

43:59 No, no playboy.

44:01 That's why I use the word friend. I'm truly a friend. I don't lie to anybody. I don't make any false declarations. I let you know at the table. Listen, what I just said, I'm traumatized. I do not want a relationship. I don't want a girlfriend. We can be friends. And we can have great experiences.

44:20 Go to Brooklyn Chop House. But I'm not going to set you up.

44:23 You can post this on your Instagram. You good.

44:24 No, no, no.

44:25 That's a disclaimer.

44:27 No, no, no. This is the first time I'm actually talking about this. Yeah, that's real.

44:31 Because, you know, out of respect for, you know, my ex-wife, she's a private person.

44:40 That's fire.

44:42 Yeah.

44:43 You know, at some point, I got to have the conversation. And then people are going to hear the album and be like, why is he talking like that?

44:51 And he's married.

44:52 And a lot of times, people didn't see her in pictures with my daughter and I.

45:00 But they were like, well, maybe, you know, she don't want to be seen.

45:03 But it was because, you know, we weren't together. So, you know, and I was on another... podcast, and I've talked about it. So it's already out there.

45:14 And you're two different types of famous, because you're rap famous and you're a fucking political famous.

45:20 Or a leader famous.

45:21 You know what's crazy? I'm a big fan of Kirby Enthusiasm, right? And Larry David. And Larry David's girl gives him a pass, right? To go have sex with this one girl. And he goes in this girl's dressing room and he leans over and he finds out that this girl is a Republican. Right? And he has to pass the smash and everything, but he's against the Republicans. So he gets up and he leaves.

45:46 Would that ever be a situation with you? Like if you dating a girl and she's of the opposite party and you just like, you just disgusted by her political choices, would that affect you?

45:58 No.

45:58 Okay.

45:59 Actually, I have a few friends in Belize that are from... The opposite party? The other political party.

46:05 Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.

46:07 So it's not like people would be surprised if they knew but you know that's another thing I keep things very very private right no face no.

46:17 Case right right so I can we list all the producers on the album yeah please Dr.

46:28 Dre Swiss Beats Dr. Dre makes noise for his beak Timbaland.

46:35 Got the verses right there.

46:38 Rissa.

46:38 Hit Boy. Boy Wonder. Polo the Don. And Heat Makers. Damn, that's a lineup. Ten songs.

46:43 Was that your original vision board complete? The only one, there were two that weren't on my vision board, and that was Heat Makers and Polo. But when I went to see Timbo, Polo was there. So I got two for one, and Polo, listen, I kid you not, there's.

47:21 No filler on my album.

47:24 I love, I think the Dre record, the Dre record is big, but then.

47:30 The Squish record, Don't you got two Dre records? Yeah, the Swiss record.

47:34 Okay, yeah.

47:35 It's big, too.

47:37 The Polo record is big.

47:40 Like, all my records are big. The Heatmakers record.

47:43 Right, right. Yeah, I love this. That's the first one. Yeah.

47:46 I got Heatmakers from Joel Santana. Yeah.

47:49 From Dipset.

47:51 That's my little bro. And he just hit me one day. Listen, let me send you some records. Mm-hmm.

48:00 And he says, Juelz sent you the records, okay. Juelz sent me the Heatmakers records. Oh, wow, wow.

48:05 And as soon as I heard that record that you heard, I stopped everything I was doing.

48:11 Wow.

48:12 And I wrote that record, and I said, this is going to be the first record on the Shine album.

48:17 Wow.

48:17 Sorry, the new Shine album, the.

48:19 Honorable, yeah.

48:21 So those were two that I didn't have on my vision board.

48:23 Is there anybody that was on the vision board that you didn't get?

48:25 Yeah.

48:26 No, I got my entire vision board. Oh, Jermaine Dupri. Oh, you didn't... No, he's on my vision board.

48:31 Okay.

48:32 But he didn't make this album.

48:33 Okay.

48:34 He'll make the next album.

48:35 Okay. Yeah. Okay.

48:37 Yeah.

48:38 All right.

48:38 But Jermaine was on the vision board too.

48:40 But he didn't make.

48:41 Because again, when you're making an album, I don't believe in more than 10 records, but I'll go to 12. So like the next album would be 12.

48:52 Right.

48:53 And the third album would be 13. Right. And then I go back to 10. That's my method. More than 13 is overkill for me.

49:02 Right.

49:02 For how I paint.

49:03 Right.

49:03 Remember, all artists are different. Basquiat is different from Warhol.

49:07 Right.

49:08 You know, Picasso is different. From Van Gogh. From Van Gogh, right?

49:13 Everybody paints different, so I'm not judging anyone.

49:15 Right.

49:16 But the way I do my artistry, 10 is a perfect number.

49:19 You know Michael Jackson.

49:21 Right.

49:22 Nine records.

49:23 Right. Dramatic.

49:24 No, 10. Right?

49:26 Yep, 10 for Illman.

49:28 So it's nine records because one is the intro.

49:30 Yeah.

49:30 Yep, so you're right. So that's my thing, right?

49:32 All right.

49:33 So that's why Jermaine didn't make it and a few other people. So it's nine records on this album? No, it's 10. It's 10, okay.

49:39 10 songs and I think like two interludes.

49:41 Okay.

49:43 Because I'm painting something.

49:46 And as I put the records together, it was just perfect with the 10. Right.

49:51 But then the next album, that's what's beautiful about what I'm doing.

49:55 Rap Prime Minister? Oh my goodness. Boy Wonder. So Boy Wonder sent.

50:01 Me, that's a little brother, you know, for years.

50:07 But obviously I was doing politics.

50:10 But I hit him.

50:11 I was like, listen, I need the nuclear atomic tracks. He sent me maybe like 15 records.

50:24 I love 10 of them. 10 of them worked for me.

50:27 Out of 15?

50:28 Out of 15. So for Rap Prime Minister, he got a seven clip.

50:34 Oh, wow. So he produced a majority of that.

50:36 And then for Actual Intelligence, he got like three on that.

50:42 Okay.

50:43 So for Rap Prime Minister, I'm falling in the other. So like Polo's coming back. Or Timbo's coming back. Hit Boy's coming back. Dre's coming back. So that's why I got to go up to 13, because I'm going to put some new pieces in there.

51:04 Pooh Bear. Oh, Pooh Bear. Pooh Bear gave me some hits.

51:07 Happy birthday, Pooh Bear.

51:08 Yeah, he gave me some hits as well. But he didn't make the first album, so he'll make the second album.

51:13 So let me ask you, right? Because at one point, I just didn't want to write rhymes.

51:18 I didn't want to make music. And then out the blue one day.

51:21 Yeah.

51:23 I was literally in my shower.

51:25 Yeah. And I had to jump outside because so many lyrics just hit me.

51:29 And I just went.

51:30 I was literally in my shower writing down the lyrics. When you were in office, was there times that music just came to you and you had to, like, fight it off and be like, nah, I can't.

51:39 Make music right now? Ah, you know, being... Was you recorded on the law? No, no, you see.

51:45 Writing it.

51:46 For me, I wasn't just a member of the House of Representatives.

51:52 I was.

51:56 The leader of a political party who was the leader of the opposition in the House of Representatives. Wow.

52:02 So I'm responsible for.

52:05 An entire party. That's 31 other leaders. I'm responsible for us... putting a manifesto together with policies that are going to speak to the problems that the Belizean people are facing with concrete solutions.

52:20 That's not an easy thing to do.

52:22 And while you'll have technocrats that'll advise you, I need to understand how we're going to grow the economy. I need to understand how we're going to provide affordable housing, affordable healthcare, access to education, in order to translate this to the Belizean people. I don't want to just read something that a.

52:47 Technocrat would write for me.

52:48 You need to know what it is that you're saying.

52:50 So I would do my own research.

52:52 Right.

52:53 They would share the information, and I would read, and you would read, and you'd keep searching, and what the Philippines do, and, you know, what is Jamaica doing, what are the United States doing, what did UK do, and you immerse yourself in all this information. So this is a lot of information so that when you ask me, well, Sean— Um, how are you going to grow the economy? I can tell you about the agro sector. I could tell you about, you know, stop importing inflation. I could tell you all of that because that's what I studied. So I don't have bandwidth. I don't have data space. To write a rhyme at that time. To even think about writing a rhyme.

53:25 Yeah, I respect that.

53:26 Of coming up with.

53:28 New ways and more efficient ways so the technocrats can give me a way but then there's an opening here that that's porous that's kind of weak there's an exposure there and you want to tighten it up so by the time you go to the Belizean people with the finished product at the time of general elections you have something that they can truly grasp and truly believe in so no yeah Damn.

53:50 That's weird.

53:51 That's ill because I can't control it. But I was out of it. You have never stopped being a regular. Because I was doing a podcast, yeah.

54:01 But you're still in it.

54:02 I know what you're trying to say.

54:06 I literally, you got to remember, when I came out, In 2009, my voice was shot.

54:15 I went to Israel.

54:17 Went on a spiritual, well, a religious pilgrimage that turned into a spiritual awakening where now I'm at a level of enlightenment.

54:25 You even had the curls of the Brooklyn Dudes be happening. The orthodox, right? Yeah, the orthodox.

54:29 And now I'm just Sean Poe, world leader chic.

54:32 That's right.

54:34 But I went through so much, and there was a point where I said... I don't want to chase the shadow of myself. I don't want to just be a remnant of coulda, woulda, shoulda records, right?

54:53 Respect to Drewski. Yeah.

54:56 Yeah.

54:57 Like, so what am I going to do?

54:59 And it's in the Hulu documentary, The Honorable Sean, my brother, Jeff, Respect to American Eagle, he was one of the first people to say, Sean, you're not just a rapper.

55:17 Right.

55:18 There's so much more than that. You know, you're a businessman. You always owned your own publishing company.

55:24 Right.

55:24 You always owned your own production company from the moment you signed.

55:27 Right. You're so much more. Right. Let's figure out, let's do some business. I'll invest. You could do more than rap. I just want you to know that.

55:37 Right.

55:38 And I was insulted. I was offended, yeah, because I was like.

55:42 You were insulted that you could do what? No, no, no. That you didn't see what he saw at that time?

55:46 No, no, no.

55:46 He saw you outside of this.

55:47 I shined, but then I was like... Right.

55:50 I didn't even consider that I could be anything other than shine, just being honest.

55:54 Like, you felt he was doubting this.

55:56 Yes.

55:57 Oh, wow. Yeah. Right, right. Right?

55:59 But he was right. I was not this. What I played for you.

56:02 Right.

56:03 I couldn't play for you then. I didn't have it.

56:07 You know, like I said, the voice was gone. The energy was gone. Everything was just gone. I tell the story. Coming out of 10 years of wrongful incarceration is like coming from Vietnam or coming from Iraq.

56:19 Or coming from being on the.

56:21 Battlefields, watching people's brains fly out their skull and doing that for 10 years.

56:29 I thought I was good to go.

56:32 But I wasn't because I caught some shell casings while going through that.

56:39 And I needed to heal. I needed to.

56:41 Can you articulate that better? You said you thought you were good to go, but you wasn't.

56:45 I thought I was ready to go.

56:46 You thought you were street enough already? Is that what you mean by that?

56:49 No, no, no, not street.

56:50 No, no, no. So, yes.

56:51 No, being ready to go has nothing to do with street. It just has to do with, you know, Michael Jordan coming back. to Chicago after playing with the White Sox. You know, I thought I was ready to go back and put my cape on and just fly. And I jumped off the Empire State Building and I fell. My superhero powers prevented me from dying, but I definitely wasn't soaring in the air. I was like, and I landed, you know, like, not on my feet, but I landed.

57:27 And I had to accept that.

57:29 And I accepted that I would never be able to fly off the Empire State Building again and I'd never be.

57:34 Able to soar.

57:36 And so I said, well, what am I going to do? Stand here and just keep looking up at the sky? Or I'm going to, you know, get accustomed to life here on the ground. And that's what I did. And that's what led me to life of service.

57:52 Yeah.

57:53 And so now getting back.

57:56 To it.

57:58 It's just a gift from God.

57:59 I think by me serving people of Belize, by me doing so much charity, by me being overthrown and going through the coup, I lost millions of dollars, you know, that might've led to my divorce. You know, who want to be married to someone who's working all the time? I literally slept on the couch. And so, you know, my ex-wife probably thought there was something wrong with her, but I was just, I would be reading papers. I would be going over policy papers, and studying and writing my speeches for parliament and just, you know, we'd have a cabinet every week and I'd have press briefings every week and I can't go out there not knowing what I'm talking about. And so, yeah, I lost everything. Right.

58:45 And I, you know, so I think this is God's way of saying you, you serve Belize well, you sacrificed your family, you sacrificed your bank account.

58:56 Um, You know, here goes your voice, here goes shine.

59:00 Here goes shine with world leadership.

59:05 So, when you first came home, right? I remember the bus being quite similar to like when you first like got signed right yeah and I believe it was Khaled right the first record and I'm not sure if it wasn't mixed right or.

59:21 Like my voice was gone number one my voice was gone.

59:28 After 10 years incarceration, I didn't use my vocal cords because in incarceration, you have to move in silence, too much yapping, get you clapped, too much yapping, somebody snitch on you. There's just all types of things that could go wrong in prison. You know, I don't wish that on my worst enemy because you could come in, you could come in with a 12-month, two-year sentence and never leave.

59:55 Wow.

59:56 Right?

59:57 So definitely going in there with a 10 clip, I wasn't sure I was going to make it out, whether by me having to take someone's life in order to protect my life, or I might have lost that battle and then I'm gone. So yeah, making it out, as I said, I was a shell of myself.

1:00:19 And I was thinking Tupac, but Tupac only did six months.

1:00:24 Right, I didn't look at it like that.

1:00:25 And sure came and bailed him out.

1:00:27 You did 10 years.

1:00:28 I did 10 years.

1:00:29 I don't think anybody feels sorry for me.

1:00:33 There's no excuses.

1:00:34 It is what it is.

1:00:37 I chalked it up.

1:00:37 I said, hey, people are not going to feel sorry for me if my voice is gone and my energy is gone.

1:00:44 Wrap it up.

1:00:45 Figure something else out.

1:00:47 Right. Right.

1:00:47 But that's the reality. Ten years is a death sentence.

1:00:52 Right.

1:00:52 That's a death sentence. I mean, respect to Max B. Thank God he got French.

1:00:57 Right.

1:00:58 You know, French came and, you know, gave him, you know, some classic records. Yep. And so God bless him.

1:01:06 Yeah. Right.

1:01:07 But I wasn't as fortunate.

1:01:09 Right.

1:01:10 I wasn't as fortunate. My voice was gone.

1:01:11 So the Khaled record, when I recorded the Khaled record, you know, we were turning it up. We were doing all types of things, not realizing, and not Khaled, us, not realizing that it's just, you know, the voice is gone.

1:01:25 And then it leaked. Oh, it leaked?

1:01:28 That was supposed to come out. Someone in the studio leaked it.

1:01:33 Okay.

1:01:34 And that's when Hov and I had, you know, we had a closer relationship. He was going to sign me.

1:01:42 Wow. When you came home. When I first came home.

1:01:44 Okay, wow.

1:01:45 And my guy, Stevie, Stevie Ace Acevedo, who was his right hand.

1:01:51 They were at the Yankee game.

1:01:54 And they heard it on the radio and they said Ho was about to throw up. He couldn't believe it. Because we had plans, but then the record was terrible.

1:02:02 Oh.

1:02:03 Because the voice was gone.

1:02:04 Right. It was a great record.

1:02:05 Right. It was just terrible shine. But didn't Khaled wind up using that on the album, though, or no?

1:02:10 Nah.

1:02:10 He never used it on the album?

1:02:11 No, definitely not. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Yeah, definitely not. He might have used it without me.

1:02:16 Oh, okay.

1:02:17 Yeah.

1:02:18 Okay. Yeah.

1:02:19 But respect to Khaled. Always been a shine believer. Always been a shine supporter.

1:02:26 And yeah.

1:02:27 Nah, man.

1:02:27 Yeah.

1:02:28 God damn it, man.

1:02:29 Thank God we got the voice back, though.

1:02:32 And another thing that's so dope, man, is me and you was kicking it, and I said, I asked you, were you dropping to independent? And you looked at me and was like, no, I'm going to go look at the majors.

1:02:44 I believe that's where that album belongs.

1:02:47 You can't have Dr. Dre beats.

1:02:50 Yeah.

1:02:51 Hit Boy, Swizz Beatz, Timbaland, and then go to independent. With all due respect to independence, because you can.

1:02:58 Yeah.

1:02:58 You can. But with that, it's like, I feel like majors will understand that more.

1:03:02 Yeah.

1:03:03 You know what I mean?

1:03:04 Because it seems like you're spending.

1:03:06 The whole budget.

1:03:07 You know what I'm saying? And I imagine this is just you by yourself right now. Yes, me. But obviously, having relationships with these guys.

1:03:14 Right. They love me.

1:03:15 They respect me. You still got to pay for flights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's me doing all the investment. But, yes, I believe in the major partnerships.

1:03:25 Yeah.

1:03:26 You know, I had great partnerships. I had great partnerships in the Universal system. Universal has been very good to me. Yeah, but, you know, conversations with Sony.

1:03:39 We're going to talk to everybody. We're looking at Warner. You know, Steve-O is my partner. Steve-O? No, Steve-O. Oh, Steve-O.

1:03:48 Okay, okay, okay.

1:03:49 Steve Carlos.

1:03:50 Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.

1:03:52 So, you know, so we have a partnership in the Warner system.

1:03:55 Oh, wow.

1:03:56 But I could do whatever I want to do.

1:03:58 Right.

1:03:58 So we'll definitely have a conversation, you know, with Atlantic, with Warner.

1:04:02 Okay. We'll have a conversation with the majors, but I've never had a.

1:04:08 Bad experience with major.

1:04:13 Partnership.

1:04:14 Excuse me.

1:04:16 So I've always had great joint ventures, distribution deals. So it's just what the partnership looks like, whether it's a JV or whether it's a distribution.

1:04:25 Are you opposed to being completely independent? I don't see the. I don't see the upside.

1:04:34 As I said, I've had great partnerships, so I haven't even considered what that would look like. I don't see the need to. Maybe other people have had bad experiences. As I said, the deal I did when I came out was a distribution deal with the trappings of a JV. So I took all the.

1:05:00 Which JV is joint venture for anybody.

1:05:01 I took all the profits, and they wanted to be in business with me so much, but they would market, they would do everything.

1:05:07 Obviously, the record industry has changed.

1:05:12 And for me, it's not about profits as much as it is about reach.

1:05:20 Right. Because you're right. This album is important for hip-hop.

1:05:26 Right.

1:05:27 It's important for hip-hop.

1:05:28 Right. Right?

1:05:29 It's very, very important for hip-hop. And even when you look in New York, right? I'm excited that you coming with an album.

1:05:37 Yep. But even New York. New York feel good.

1:05:40 It feel good. The Knicks. The Knicks.

1:05:43 Yeah, the Knicks is great, but I'm just saying, outside of French, I love Stove Guard.

1:05:48 You know, I love what Griselda's doing. But, you know, New York.

1:05:55 It's feeling good.

1:05:56 It's feeling good again. It's feeling good again. I like listening to.

1:05:58 The radio again.

1:05:59 Yeah, but I'm saying, you know, so this is a great time to get that classic album from a New Yorker.

1:06:08 I don't want to say it's a classic New York album.

1:06:11 Right.

1:06:11 It's a classic album from a New Yorker because I got records that are going to speak to everybody. Yeah, no, I got, well, no, no, no. I got classic hip-hop records. But it's not just New York records. We got that bop. You know, Timbo going to give you that bounce. Polo going to give you that bounce. Hit-Boy going to give you that bounce. Boy Wonder going to give you that. Man, when you hear that Boy Wonder.

1:06:44 Bouncing around a little bit. Were you ever run for New York City Mayor? Or can you?

1:06:51 Would he, you said?

1:06:52 Yeah, can you?

1:06:53 I'm not interested in New York politics. I'm not interested in American politics.

1:06:57 Okay.

1:06:58 I stay out of American politics other than to engage with Republicans and Democrats.

1:07:05 Right.

1:07:06 So when you asked about would I have a problem... No.

1:07:10 That's how you bring people together. So I don't believe in hating someone because of their politics. I might internally be like.

1:07:22 But if that person with their diverging views that I find repugnant likes me, even though they know how I feel, and there's something about them to like.

1:07:38 outside of their repugnant political views, I feel like that's how you bring the world together because you could find a middle ground somewhere. Like when it comes to immigrants, I'm an immigrant. So I don't believe in demonizing President Trump. If he were to invite me, I'd go talk to him and I'd plead with him the case of an immigrant.

1:08:08 from Belize that came to this country and made well for himself, just got the keys to Brooklyn and made such great contributions. Thank you to the Brooklyn Borough President, Antonio. But I make that case, and this is what I mean. Let's say I might have a different view on policies of the president or policies of another world leader or member of parliament.

1:08:43 But I would not.

1:08:45 Close the door on those conversations because that's what diplomacy is about. That's what democracy is about. It's not supposed to be one way.

1:08:54 Right. Right.

1:08:56 It doesn't mean that you agree with the other way. But let's find common ground. and let's appeal to people's better senses and i think people will listen like look at mom dami yeah i'm the man he was talking sick he was talking crazy when he won he i'll never forget that um victory speech he was like trump Turn the volume louder. And then the next week he was in the White House.

1:09:19 Both of them.

1:09:20 They both changed up. I mean, he was a little bit louder than me. He didn't bring my song with him in the White House.

1:09:26 Yeah.

1:09:26 But all I'm saying is someone might say that he did a switch.

1:09:32 He didn't do a switch. He did what was right. For the people in New York. You got to play politics. It was right for the people in New York.

1:09:39 So it was better.

1:09:41 To go have that meeting and try to find some common ground with the president of the United States who got billions and billions of dollars in federal aid for the people in New York and put your personal feelings aside and your ego aside and your politics aside for the people in New York.

1:09:56 So I commend Mondami for doing that.

1:10:00 Now, at one point, it was rumored that, like, you couldn't get back in America, right?

1:10:05 Yeah.

1:10:05 And you and Slickwick is probably, like, the only two people that know that that rumor was about. And then you guys, so how, like, because I got a lot of people from Jamaica that's deported. A lot of people from Trinidad is deported. A lot of people, so on and so forth. I don't want to keep naming. What would be your political advice for somebody that got deported that's trying to enter back in America? Yeah.

1:10:28 Well, two things.

1:10:31 When I initially, excuse me, when I initially returned to the States, it was as a diplomat.

1:10:37 Okay.

1:10:38 So that's a totally different visa. Okay. So that was as the opposition leader of the House of Representatives, Member of Parliament. So that's different. They can't stop you. No, they can.

1:10:47 They can?

1:10:48 They can. Oh, no, they can.

1:10:49 Okay, wow.

1:10:51 So let me start here. I'm glad you pointed it out because they can. I have colleagues that are in parliament.

1:10:57 That's not diplomatic immunity? I have colleagues that are in parliament.

1:11:00 Now, each country has the right.

1:11:01 I have colleagues that.

1:11:02 Are in parliament that are ministers in government that can't come to the United States. Unless you're the president or the prime minister of the country, that's the only way they can't stop you. And then if they allow you in, they can allow you in just to go to United Nations. And then you got to get out.

1:11:21 Oh, I did hear about that.

1:11:22 Yes.

1:11:23 So there's no guarantee, especially for a member of parliament, for a prime minister or president of a country, you come to the United Nations, but then you got to leave.

1:11:34 And you get escorted?

1:11:36 Yeah, like you got to come, go straight there, go to your hotel, go to the United Nations and get out.

1:11:41 Wow.

1:11:43 But the reason I believe I was allowed to come was because... I totally reformed, totally turned my life around. And I built a relationship. I was ambassador of culture, music for the government of Belize. And so I built relationships. And I demonstrated that I.

1:12:06 Totally turned my life around. So that matters. But that's, I would say, 13 years ago.

1:12:17 Now, I've only ever been arrested and charged and convicted once in my entire life.

1:12:24 Wow.

1:12:25 So that was none before, none after.

1:12:28 So that's 13 years of not a traffic ticket, nothing.

1:12:34 And not just that, but the philanthropy.

1:12:37 The community service, then getting elected to the parliament, but I already developed a relationship with the stakeholders, with the Americans, with the British, with all different types of people through my work as ambassador and my work as a community servant, right?

1:12:54 So that's one.

1:12:56 As far as a person that is not a politician, not a member of parliament, you can, as long as I believe murder, I don't think, some type of heinous crime, terrorism, It really depends on the crime, but I think like murder, rape, or child molestation. I think there's certain heinous acts where I think you're prohibited, right? Definitely murder and terrorism. But everything else you can get a waiver. So now when I lost my seat, the government took away my diplomatic passport, even though my visa wasn't expired.

1:13:32 Wow.

1:13:33 So I was grounded.

1:13:35 The government of Belize.

1:13:36 Yes.

1:13:36 Right.

1:13:37 But I already had the vision board, so I was coming to work anyway. Right.

1:13:41 But there was a possibility that the Homeland Security and the State Department— Would flag you? No, I had to get a waiver. So I qualified for what you call an O-1B, which is an extraordinary ability visa. For people that have Grammys and Oscars or scientists, people that are like extraordinary people.

1:14:03 Right.

1:14:04 America wants you to come to the country. So once you qualify for that, they'll let you in. But I still needed to get a waiver just as a matter of procedure.

1:14:14 Right.

1:14:15 But you never know who is going to look at that. Right. And say, oh, we don't care that, you know.

1:14:23 He won the Grammy.

1:14:23 We don't care that he won the Oscar. We don't care that he was opposition leader.

1:14:27 Right.

1:14:28 But I think all of that helped because I've been coming in the country for like five years.

1:14:33 Without incident.

1:14:33 I come, I meet with Republicans, I meet with Democrats.

1:14:39 I'm doing great things and I'm promoting Belize and I'm promoting U.S.-Belize relationships. It's kind of tough to say that I'm a threat to America's national security. In fact, I'm an asset to America's interests. in being a Belizean American. And, you know, I have pro-democratic, regardless of whether it's a Republican or Democrat that sits in the Oval Office. I'm pro-democracy.

1:15:10 I'm pro-freedom. So, yeah, so thank God all those things work in my favor. And, yeah, so I'm grateful to the Trump administration, their Homeland Security, their State Department, Just as I'm grateful for the Biden administration, when I was opposition leader, it was their administration that looked at it and they could have said, no, he's not the prime minister.

1:15:36 He's not the president. We don't want him in our country. So thank God.

1:15:40 But anyone that is not convicted of certain crimes can apply for a waiver.

1:15:49 But you have to demonstrate.

1:15:52 After years and years and years and years that that you're not a threat to America's national security.

1:15:59 No, wait, hold on. We got to give him his alumni flowers. Oh, hell yeah. Thank you.

1:16:05 Thank you so much.

1:16:06 Thank you.

1:16:07 Thank you. Thank you. So, did we play quick time with him last time?

1:16:21 I believe so.

1:16:22 So, this is going to be my shot. I'm going to take a shot of that.

1:16:25 No, shot whatever you drink.

1:16:26 Yeah, I'll take a shot of what I'm drinking. Yeah, yeah.

1:16:28 You can.

1:16:28 Yeah, yeah. So, we're going to give you two choices. You probably played the game last time.

1:16:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:16:33 We'll go through it again. Two choices. You pick one we don't drink. You say both or neither we drinking. And this is really just for stories with anything we bring up. Yeah. So, first one is B.I.G. or Big L?

1:16:44 Rest in peace to both.

1:16:46 B.I.G.

1:16:46 All right. That was easy.

1:16:49 DMX or Tupac? Rest in peace. Both. Tupac. Mesa Cam.

1:16:57 Let's drink.

1:16:58 Let's drink. Cheers. Cheers to my God. Yeah, I like you. Hold on. I saw you on the show. No, he's not drinking. So birthday, birthday Paul. Come over here and drink, man.

1:17:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:17:08 Come on, Paul. You're drinking with us.

1:17:09 Come on.

1:17:09 Sit down over here. Come on, it's my brother's birthday week.

1:17:17 Yeah, birthday blesses.

1:17:18 What's his name? That's Paul, Drink Chance Sports. That's Paul, yeah. That's his birthday too. Beats in the hood over there.

1:17:24 All right.

1:17:24 Oh, you make beats? Yeah, that's a producer.

1:17:27 He's Latin Grammy nominated over there.

1:17:29 All right, I'm going to come see you for the... I'm not ready for you yet. The Belizean Breeze. So the Belizean Breeze is going to be... That's the last album. That's the Latin album. Yeah, that's 2030. That's Latin album. That's Afropop.

1:17:42 That's reggae. That's dancehall.

1:17:45 Reggaeton.

1:17:45 Okay, I'm in.

1:17:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:17:48 You ready?

1:17:48 Get with Peace in the Hood over there, man. Yeah, for sure.

1:17:51 Yes, I'm going to come see you down the stretch.

1:17:53 All right. Barrington Levy or Buju Bantam?

1:17:56 Barrington Levy. Why you said Levy? Hey.

1:17:59 How you been getting away with that?

1:18:02 Levy.

1:18:02 New Orleans. But I guarantee you got no more dancehall than you do.

1:18:05 100%.

1:18:05 No argument there, brother. No argument. All right.

1:18:11 I know more reggaeton than you.

1:18:12 Probably not. I ain't got a hell of those. We can battle. We can battle. I might not have been into it, but I'm a DJ, man. I'm a DJ. You own one reggaeton record. I go to your group right now. I go to your group right now. You ain't got... You got Vico C. That's it. Vico C's a legend, man. I know, but then you got... He's a legend. You don't got no Alexis or Vito. You don't got Winston and you got Dell. You don't got Simon and Lennox. Of course I do.

1:18:40 Come on.

1:18:40 Come on. Let's go. You don't even got it. Oh, my God.

1:18:46 Yeah, you're for real.

1:18:53 I'm going to drink.

1:18:58 Mix it? Wait, you mixing, man? Yeah. What's that? The barbecue? No, no, no. You mixing? What you drinking already, bro? Hold on, hold on. I got to take care of my dog. What are you drinking already? Pinot Grigio So can we get him his bottle of Pinot Grigio.

1:19:12 Yeah let him drink It's his birthday Nah man we gotta take care of it We all reaching the.

1:19:22 Same age I got Shine and.

1:19:25 Nori here Happy birthday.

1:19:27 Paul Alright Hitman or Trackmasters.

1:19:37 Hitman Hold on. I know I said it earlier, but working with Dre, because you got to work with Hitman. I never got to work with Hitman. Was that the closest thing, or was that like a school of Bob?

1:19:53 You know, Buff was incredible at his prime.

1:20:00 I can't take anything away from him. That's why I was able to make a classic album. Two classic albums, Godfather Buried Alive, But yeah, Dre something different.

1:20:15 Dre something different, right?

1:20:17 But don't get me wrong. Puff, but then I think.

1:20:22 Puff was inspired by Dre.

1:20:24 By Dre.

1:20:25 It's different styles, too. Oh, Dre came before Puff.

1:20:28 Absolutely, absolutely. You're correct, you're correct.

1:20:31 Going back to world-class record crews.

1:20:33 No, no, no, but The Chronic came first.

1:20:37 Yeah, yeah.

1:20:38 Right? No, no, N.W.A.

1:20:39 Came first.

1:20:40 N.W.A.

1:20:41 Came first. He's producing N.W.A., correct?

1:20:43 Absolutely.

1:20:43 So as a producer... Yeah.

1:20:47 You got to always put Dre first now as far as, and then even when you go to the sales.

1:20:52 All right. All right. And remember, not just NWA and the Eazy-E album, which is a big.

1:20:58 Success as well.

1:20:59 But in all fairness, Puff. All right. Puff is up there. He's in the constellation.

1:21:08 All right. Right?

1:21:09 But Dre is.

1:21:10 Puff is not Dre.

1:21:12 Dre is like.

1:21:12 But I think we got to make a distinct difference. I think even though Dre now, you've seen, he produces like Puff by having people, but Dre was a hands-on beat producer.

1:21:23 No, I didn't get your experience.

1:21:26 Puff never made a beat, I don't think. I don't think. I don't know.

1:21:28 No, but there are things that Puff taught me about making records that live with me forever.

1:21:36 For sure.

1:21:36 Which is not far away from Dre.

1:21:38 Right, right. Puff made it easier for you to work with Dre.

1:21:42 Exactly.

1:21:43 But I wouldn't be able to work with Dre. Right, right, right. That's real. That's real.

1:21:46 I understand.

1:21:46 I mean, in general, because you wouldn't have records. Yeah. Right. That's real.

1:21:51 Right.

1:21:51 That opportunity came through him.

1:21:52 But Puff was more, he, excuse me, he gave me the blueprint, his blueprint, and then it was like, he love it or he hate it. Mm-hmm.

1:22:07 Mm-hmm.

1:22:08 Puff never sat there and wrote a record with me.

1:22:12 Mm-hmm. Dr.

1:22:13 Dre is the first person to write a song with me that I already wrote.

1:22:18 Mm-hmm.

1:22:19 I know what you're saying.

1:22:20 Right? Yeah. But I never knew that about Dre.

1:22:23 Right.

1:22:23 I thought people wrote Dre's verses for him. No, no, no. He get down, yeah.

1:22:27 Well, he get down.

1:22:28 Yeah.

1:22:28 Right?

1:22:29 And there were other, like, Smitty was there. Yeah, Smitty was there. Standing right by the speaker, right? Yeah, standing right by the speaker.

1:22:33 Standing right by the speaker.

1:22:34 Yes, yes, yes.

1:22:34 Um.

1:22:36 But, and then, you know, it's funny with Smitty, I'll tell you a story. So when Smitty heard the record, he was like, I love it, but I know what Dre going to say.

1:22:46 Yeah.

1:22:46 And I was like, you bugging. This is perfect.

1:22:49 Yeah.

1:22:50 Yo, wow.

1:22:50 I thought the same thing. Right?

1:22:52 And so, no, no, no, no, no.

1:22:53 That's, that's, that's, oh, you thought the same thing. So listen, so listen, so listen.

1:22:58 So, um, so.

1:23:02 That's why I took the record for Dre. I wasn't sending it to him. Yeah, yeah.

1:23:05 I couldn't take it.

1:23:07 I couldn't take it. I couldn't take it if he did not hit me back.

1:23:10 Oh, that's smart.

1:23:11 That's smart.

1:23:12 The phone would have went dead.

1:23:16 Right, right. Text messages would have went dead.

1:23:18 That's smart.

1:23:18 Right?

1:23:19 I couldn't take that. I prefer to get it on the chin. Just, you know, nah, champ. So, but when I went in there, I went in there, Muhammad Ali. I was dancing.

1:23:30 I knew what I had. And when they played that record, the studio went crazy.

1:23:37 This is what your vocal's already on there? This is the record done.

1:23:40 Two verses.

1:23:41 I wrote Dre's verse because I thought I was going to write his verse. So the second verse was for him. But the people loved it. So that's when he was like, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You mind if we change a few things? No, but listen, Dre is real.

1:23:58 Yeah, yeah. If he's not with it, he's going to tell you.

1:24:03 He's going to be like, nah, Sean. I ain't with that. That studio is the house of truth. He's going to tell you. He's going to be like, nah. Nah, he's going to tell you.

1:24:16 Straight.

1:24:17 It ain't no comeback. Let's change a few things. Nah, Sean.

1:24:24 So when he was like, yeah, I love it. You don't mind if we You know, the second verse, first verse, just a few things.

1:24:33 Like, let's do it. So that never happened to me before where I wrote a record.

1:24:40 That's the difference between a person who makes beats and a person who produces. Yeah.

1:24:44 Yeah.

1:24:44 So he, you know... And then just... Just different things that he taught me. I'm not going to say here. I'm not going to give all the.

1:24:50 Of course not.

1:24:51 Give all the.

1:24:52 The secret sauce.

1:24:52 The secret sauce. But he taught me.

1:24:55 Like, he literally sat there and taught me.

1:24:59 Even in making that record, he taught me.

1:25:02 So I learned things because I'm, you know, by God's grace, I'm a sponge. So just like everything Puff taught me, I sponge as far as, you know, making hit records.

1:25:14 So he... I think I graduated to him. Okay. You got the next one?

1:25:18 Yeah, no.

1:25:19 Let's get through this.

1:25:20 That was a long one.

1:25:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:25:22 No, this is great.

1:25:23 Politics or music? Cheers.

1:25:31 I'll tell you why, though.

1:25:35 In the Heatmakers record, the intro, I say I'm manly and marley combined. For those of you who don't know, it's Jamaica Day weekend. Jamaica Independence Day this week as well. Respect to Jamaica.

1:25:48 They got the Jamaica Day Parade.

1:25:49 That's right.

1:25:49 You know, you got a lot of Jamaicans out here. It's going good.

1:25:52 Shout out to Jamaica. Shout out to Jamaica. Shout out to Jamaica.

1:25:56 Shout out to Jamaica.

1:25:58 Shout out to Jamaica. Shout out to Jamaica. Shout out to Jamaica. Shout out to Jamaica.

1:26:03 Shout out to Jamaica. So Michael Manley is my political hero. He was a prime minister of Jamaica.

1:26:09 Oh, Jamaica. Yeah, okay.

1:26:10 Yeah. And then Bob Marley is my musical hero.

1:26:13 Right.

1:26:14 Um.

1:26:15 And I say I'm manly and marley because I am. And who could say that? And it not be cap. Right.

1:26:21 Yeah.

1:26:22 So what you could contribute to humanity with music, it's nothing like it.

1:26:30 I think musicians a little bit.

1:26:32 More.

1:26:33 They got a little bit more than politicians, but I'm not a politician. I'm a musician.

1:26:38 Right.

1:26:38 So I'm not going to choose because what I'm going to do as a musician who's in political office... it's going to be like something that you've never seen. And I think they both make those contributions. Great political leaders, they can do so much for humanity.

1:26:56 And great musicians, you know, they do the most for humanity. Oh, man. That's God talking to us.

1:27:03 Put that top up, right? All right.

1:27:05 Remy Marr, Lil' Kim.

1:27:07 Lil' Kim. I'm assuming that's Brooklyn. That's Brooklyn shit, yeah.

1:27:14 I mean, you know, Lil' Kim comes before Remy. I don't think that's a... No, that's not a fair comparison. That's like saying Sean and Nas and Sean and Jay-Z.

1:27:23 Like, I came.

1:27:24 Well, no, actually, I had... Well, Nas came way before me. Um, cause I hope he's doing 30. I'm doing 26, but it's still not a fair comparison.

1:27:35 Cause he had 30 years.

1:27:36 I had 23 taken away from me, but I'm just saying they're still my elders because they came, they came first. Even if it was four years, it still came before me. But Kim, Kim was, Kim was way before.

1:27:47 Okay.

1:27:48 So that's not, that's not a fair comparison.

1:27:49 Okay.

1:27:50 In my, in my view, that's, that's my reason for it. Big up to terror squad.

1:27:56 She's nice.

1:27:57 Little Caesar, Memphis bleak. low c's.

1:28:02 Dj premiere pete rock.

1:28:04 Let's drink this drink all.

1:28:09 Right i'm gonna be honest with you i would like to hear you on on production by both of.

1:28:13 Us i swore he's gonna say for me on pete rock.

1:28:15 Now pete pete pete is working on some stuff for.

1:28:18 Me okay all right yeah i got.

1:28:20 It i got you know what you know what you know what happened When I went to see my vision board.

1:28:25 Premier and Pete.

1:28:27 And Premier's Brooklyn, too.

1:28:28 No, Premier and Pete was on the vision board, but I got so much from, like.

1:28:35 And you got it done.

1:28:36 I just got so much. Like, I tell you... Boy won that, and he got almost all the next album.

1:28:44 All right.

1:28:45 So, Hit Boy just keeps going.

1:28:49 So, I didn't get to, but Pete and RZA got on the next album, on the album after that.

1:28:56 I got to hear the RZA shit, bro. That's crazy.

1:28:58 Yeah.

1:29:01 Push or kiss? You can think about it. That's full respect when you think about it.

1:29:14 Nah, that's a tough one.

1:29:15 Yes, sir. That's hip-hop.

1:29:16 That's a tough one. That's a tough one.

1:29:20 Yo, bro, relax, buddy.

1:29:21 That's a real tough one. I got to go with Kiss because, you know, that's my label mate.

1:29:28 That's true.

1:29:29 That's crazy.

1:29:30 Kiss is the first.

1:29:31 Guy that I met in Beverly Hills at the Mulholland Estate Mansion. Well, I think the locks was there too. But Kiss just showed me so much love. And not to mention, he's an animal. And then Kiss comes before.

1:29:50 But they weren't.

1:29:51 The locks had already left Bad Boy by the time you got to.

1:29:54 No.

1:29:54 They were still there?

1:29:55 No, it was there. It was at the Grammys performing. It was coming out with the baseball outfits.

1:30:01 And the bats and all that. So that pre-locks thing happened when you were already there?

1:30:04 Yeah.

1:30:04 Man, my memory of all this is blurred now.

1:30:07 But Kiss is before Push.

1:30:10 Right, no, no, you're right.

1:30:11 So Kiss is before Push. Kiss is before Push. Not to take anything away from Push.

1:30:16 Push is... Like I said, Clips is.

1:30:20 That Clips album is... Nah, that's a good matchup, to be honest with you. Push and Kiss.

1:30:25 But Kiss, I got to go with Kiss because of him being.

1:30:27 Absolutely.

1:30:28 Yeah.

1:30:29 Nas or LL? Now you got to put that before... And now he's... Yeah, you misleaded the witness, man.

1:30:42 No, but I just want to see what he.

1:30:45 Because I feel.

1:30:47 Damn, that's tough for me.

1:30:49 I got.

1:30:50 Hold on. Damn.

1:30:52 You can drink if you need to.

1:30:54 Nah, because, you know... Because what happened was... Because what happened was. Man, you see how easy I answered the other ones?

1:31:06 Mm-hmm. Um....

1:31:08 Is there like a time does the bell go?

1:31:12 We got too much time on our hands.

1:31:15 Man, I got to go.

1:31:16 I got to drink.

1:31:20 I really don't want Paul to drink anymore. I mean, listen, LL is my birth. I'm bad.

1:31:30 I think a lot of us, man.

1:31:31 No, no, I'm saying I'm bad and like LL, you know, but then Nas.

1:31:38 They're both, they define their era.

1:31:43 Both of them define their era, which is ill. For LL, it's like... The fact that I'm drinking says a lot about Nas.

1:31:53 Right.

1:31:53 Because LL is the father. LL is like.

1:31:56 Yeah, former boulevard. But you know what I would, the way we usually say it.

1:32:00 Al was the discography.

1:32:01 Nas would probably say LL himself because he's always going to give homage to those before.

1:32:06 No, but you know. All right, this is going to be tough for you, man. Dre or the Ariza? Dre, Ariza?

1:32:16 The drink. Keep it political. This is straight up. This is straight up. No, no, no.

1:32:24 For the sake of the album. No, I have to drink.

1:32:27 I can't.

1:32:28 I can't.

1:32:29 I can't.

1:32:29 No, no, no.

1:32:30 You don't got to drink, bro.

1:32:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:32:32 You got to drink. Weird thoughts.

1:32:34 You got to get weird thoughts on us, bro.

1:32:36 But listen, but in all fairness, Drake came before RZA.

1:32:40 Yes, yes, yes.

1:32:42 Drake did come before RZA.

1:32:43 Very true. So what you saying? You saying Drake?

1:32:45 Yeah.

1:32:46 Now you just made me drink, man. Drink, man. It's okay. Hey, man, what part of the game is this?

1:32:51 It's okay.

1:32:53 Lift it.

1:32:54 Man, I think we got to drink.

1:32:56 Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But you made us drink already. No, no, no, no, no, no.

1:33:00 No, but we drinking if I don't choose one, right?

1:33:02 No, you said both already.

1:33:03 No, no, no. I got to take that back.

1:33:05 Yeah, you took back your head. Like, like. Take back the shot. You and I can take back. Yeah, yeah.

1:33:12 No, because Dre, because Dre came first. Yeah, that's cool. So I don't think, I think even RZA.

1:33:18 Right. You want to pick Dre?

1:33:19 Would have been influenced.

1:33:20 You want to take the other one back too? About Dre. No, we're going to stand on that. We're going to stand on Dre. Okay. All right, cool.

1:33:27 Go to the next one.

1:33:27 All right.

1:33:29 But, damn, for the sake of the album, though, I might have to.

1:33:32 Yeah, yeah, you got to keep it even. I might have to. Political.

1:33:34 No, but for the sake of the album.

1:33:36 Political.

1:33:37 You already did it for the sake of the album.

1:33:40 No, no, but we can edit that out.

1:33:41 I'm talking about this.

1:33:43 We got political. I'm saying both. I'm saying both. Yeah, we drank. We did that.

1:33:47 So we drank. So, yo.

1:33:48 We taking it back. We taking it back. Edit that.

1:33:51 All right.

1:33:52 What's the next one?

1:33:53 No, we not.

1:33:54 No, we, we, we, we, we, um.

1:33:56 We drank too.

1:33:57 Both. Yeah, both. You say both.

1:33:58 Yeah. Okay.

1:33:59 All right.

1:34:00 Ice Cube or Scarface?

1:34:04 Both.

1:34:04 Okay.

1:34:05 All right.

1:34:05 Big time. No, come on, Paul. Ice Cube or Scarface? I want to celebrate your birthday, but not like this. Ice Cube or Scarface? That's a good one. That's a good one.

1:34:17 Damn, Paul.

1:34:18 Paul's going to get crazy. Where'd that weird thoughts live, man? He's having weird thoughts about weird thoughts. I never met weird. I met weird thoughts.

1:34:26 Listen, man.

1:34:28 Oh, here we go. Sean. All right, all right, all right. Sean gave us... Hey, you want one of those? Sean gave us exclusive listening that ain't nobody in the world heard. You're right, you're right.

1:34:42 All right, let's get back to Quick Time with Slime.

1:34:44 Thank you, Paul.

1:34:45 Appreciate you, man.

1:34:49 Public Enemy or N.W.A.? Let's drink.

1:34:52 Yeah.

1:34:52 Yo. I always say, to me, they're the same group on different sides of the spectrum. Of course.

1:34:58 Cheers.

1:34:59 But heat it up?

1:35:00 Mm-hmm. Ah.

1:35:02 Yeah.

1:35:07 It was three?

1:35:07 I didn't drink three. You had cappuccino? Yeah, I had cappuccino.

1:35:13 And cocaína.

1:35:13 You had cocaína, too.

1:35:14 Yeah, okay.

1:35:15 Throw it in there. Anyway. All right, Timbaland or Swiss?

1:35:19 Let's drink.

1:35:20 Let's drink. Oh, man. Thank you. Yeah, he caught on. Chill out, bro. All right.

1:35:27 Amen. Good.

1:35:27 All right, ready?

1:35:28 Kendrick or Drake?

1:35:37 Yo, Sean, Sean, come on, bro. You fucking us up, man.

1:35:40 I felt like I heard Kendrick on the album, too. Is Kendrick on the.

1:35:43 Album on the low or no? I'm bugging out. You know, I'd like to have the big three on the album.

1:35:48 Oh, wow.

1:35:48 I'd like to have Kendrick. J.

1:35:50 Cole.

1:35:50 And Cole on the album.

1:35:51 On the same track or just on the album?

1:35:53 I got a track for each of them.

1:35:55 Oh, that's fire. Yeah. That's fire. That's great.

1:35:57 Now, I'm not saying that that would happen. That would be dope, though.

1:36:00 That's a great idea, yeah. That would be great.

1:36:01 Because I feel as the elder statesman of hip-hop.

1:36:03 Yeah, yeah.

1:36:04 I think you could make it happen. I should be bringing. I actually think you could make that happen. Yeah, I don't think anybody, I don't think either three of them would tell you no.

1:36:10 Yeah.

1:36:11 Because it's not about, oh, who's on the record.

1:36:13 Right.

1:36:15 Because, you know, I played Dre the album.

1:36:18 All right.

1:36:18 So he heard the Boy Wonder record.

1:36:20 All right. You know?

1:36:23 But I think the political side of you could go into that situation and bring them all together.

1:36:28 Well, I don't know if I could bring them all together. No, no, not on a song. Not on a song, but yeah. But on your album.

1:36:32 Yeah, so my thing is it shouldn't matter who's on the album.

1:36:36 Right. And the fact that, you know, I want everybody on the album is where I'm trying to take it.

1:36:41 Because, you know, hip hop, I've been looking at the charts. Yeah.

1:36:45 You know, hip hop is in dire straits right now.

1:36:48 Right.

1:36:49 So we need to be together. It's only Kendrick and Drake that's selling records and Cole. So we need to be together. Hip-hop need to be together. We need to bring it together. We need to figure it out. All the charts is all pop.

1:37:08 Jay-Z or Big Daddy Kane? Jay-Z. What happened to the elders? Oh, geez. Come on, man. You said prime minister, right? Isn't that Kane's line?

1:37:22 Prime minister. Prime minister. Prime minister. Prime minister. Prime minister.

1:37:27 Prime minister. Prime minister.

1:37:28 Prime minister.

1:37:29 Prime minister. Come on, man. Come on, man. Don't do that to me.

1:37:32 Don't do that to me.

1:37:33 Don't do that to me. Don't do that to me. We've got that whole verse covered in, boy. Come on. That would be dope. That whole verse covered in.

1:37:40 That would be dope.

1:37:41 What does he say? What does he say? I don't know, my guy.

1:37:45 He's got the vocals.

1:37:46 Oh, the vocals.

1:37:48 Listen, nah, I think Kane is definitely one of my heroes.

1:37:53 Yeah, all of them are.

1:37:55 One of my heroes. And Kane influenced Hov. Absolutely.

1:38:01 But you're saying Jay-Z right now.

1:38:02 Hov is, oh, come on. Let's just be honest.

1:38:05 That's why I had a thing with Nas and.

1:38:08 And LL. And LL. Right.

1:38:11 But LL's discography is crazy.

1:38:15 Right.

1:38:16 Whereas Kane, Kane stopped at a certain point.

1:38:20 Right.

1:38:21 Early.

1:38:21 Right. Respectfully.

1:38:24 Right. LL is decades of hits. All right.

1:38:30 Like, he was hot in 88.

1:38:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:38:32 He was hot in 98. All the way through the 90s. He was hot in the 2000s, yeah.

1:38:36 Yeah. But he went from the 80s to, like, 2000s making hit records. Hits.

1:38:39 Hits.

1:38:39 Hits.

1:38:48 Like, I remember he made the record with Pharrell. Mm-hmm.

1:38:52 The Headsprung? Cock Diesel. No, no, the joint where he and the Ferrari, the red Ferrari. Oh, God. Isn't that the Headsprung joint? The Headsprung. Oh.

1:39:00 Oh.

1:39:00 Mm-hmm.

1:39:03 Yeah, so it's different.

1:39:05 That's to stand the test of time like that.

1:39:09 Hell yeah.

1:39:09 No, I don't agree with you.

1:39:11 You don't agree with me? No, I don't agree with you.

1:39:13 Yeah. Queen Latifah or MC Lyte? It's drink.

1:39:17 Yeah, that's a good one.

1:39:19 I like to see that versus.

1:39:21 Man, we just need both of them on Drink Chance.

1:39:23 We need Queen Latifah and MC Lyte to be on Drink Chance.

1:39:27 Please, ladies, we need you.

1:39:29 My Brooklyn Chop House appointment is going.

1:39:32 Oh, shit.

1:39:32 Come on.

1:39:32 Let's just finish it up there.

1:39:33 How are we going to go with you? Brand new being. Oh, that's right.

1:39:38 I saw you that other day, right?

1:39:39 Yeah.

1:39:40 I want to ask you, was that the first time you met Biggie's son?

1:39:44 That's the first time.

1:39:44 Because you, I think I brought you over.

1:39:46 Wait, you went to Brooklyn Chophouse?

1:39:48 I did.

1:39:49 You are not a Brooklyn.

1:39:49 Chophouse guy, man. Oh, Lord.

1:39:55 That's the first time I met CJ.

1:39:56 And I connected him with CJ. I'm like, was you the one that took me over? I took you over to them because I had just seen C's. I had seen C's and you didn't know they were there. I had seen C's and I said, yo.

1:40:08 And I don't know how I was drunk, but I brought you over to them.

1:40:10 You're right. You was at Brooklyn's Chop House. How did you keep that secret? What's the secret, guy?

1:40:17 It wasn't just him. He had a whole entourage there.

1:40:21 He's not a Brooklyn Chop House guy, man. It was a whole entourage. Listen, man. I like it, though.

1:40:30 That's a good Flanagan's plug, though.

1:40:35 Shout out to Flanagan's.

1:40:36 Shout out to Flanagan's.

1:40:38 Brand Nubian or Tribe Called Queer?

1:40:41 Let's drink.

1:40:42 Oh, shit, man. Listen, man, Paul, you don't have to drink, bro. I'll do double.

1:40:48 Y'all take some more mango juice, please.

1:40:52 Cheers, brother. Cheers, cheers, cheers.

1:40:57 You got to understand, I know Tribe Called Quest and Tip are like, they're gods, but Grand Pooba meant something.

1:41:07 Wait, you picked a Tribe Called Quest, didn't you?

1:41:09 No, no, no, no, no.

1:41:09 He didn't pick, he didn't pick.

1:41:10 I didn't pick.

1:41:11 Oh, we drank, we drank. That's right, that's right.

1:41:14 You drink when you don't pick, yeah.

1:41:16 Oh, you're right.

1:41:16 No, I'm fucked up. Not you, I'm fucked up. No, so Grand Pooba.

1:41:20 Grand Pooba's ill. The illest, man.

1:41:22 No, no, no, but not just Grand Pooba. That brand new beer. 100%.

1:41:26 Allimo. Allimo. Allimo, yeah. DJ Allimo. Slow down. Punch him up to get beat down. Slow down. He was one of the best records ever.

1:41:39 Thank you.

1:41:40 Slow down. No, slow down. No, and what's the other joint on?

1:41:43 That's the EFN talking about you and me drinking.

1:41:45 Slow down. You need to slow down. Punch him up to get beat down. Before you punch him up to get beat down.

1:41:52 That was my shit.

1:41:54 What? That joint to me?

1:41:57 What joint?

1:41:58 Don't let it get to your head.

1:42:00 You know, that's my joint.

1:42:04 And what did you say?

1:42:04 Don't let it be smoking? I got to go see Tip to see if he's still making beats.

1:42:10 He's making beats, man.

1:42:12 Producers never stop making beats.

1:42:15 Has anybody done anything for Tip?

1:42:18 No, he's very selective. He's like Drake.

1:42:20 He's like Drake. He do what he wants. Y'all got to go see him. You know what I mean? He do what he want. I'll be interested to hear it.

1:42:25 Oh, my God. It's like, you know, me being an outsider looking in as an insider looking out. Like, I could tell.

1:42:31 I don't know this for a fact.

1:42:33 I could tell that Tip's love for music is there, but it's like, you know, I think Fife. Yeah, rest in peace, Fife. I think that, like, that was, like, like, Like, his competitive spirit. Have you met Fife before?

1:42:49 No, I've never met him.

1:42:50 He's a very competitive guy. Like, I actually bigged him up on I'm Leaving. I go, because he go, Bo know this, and Bo know that, but Bo don't know Jack, because Bo can't rap. So I took his line, and I was.

1:43:01 Like, Nori know this, and Nori know that, but Nori know Gat.

1:43:05 Why?

1:43:05 Because Nori bucked that. All right.

1:43:07 Okay, calm down.

1:43:08 So.

1:43:11 No, no, you saw this, bro. Keep going, bro. Instead of him thinking that I bigged him up, Fife was so much of a competitive dude.

1:43:21 He seen me, he said, I'm going to jack one of your shits.

1:43:23 And I was like, what? I was like, no, Fife, I was bigging you up. I'm paying homage. And he was like, that's how.

1:43:30 Competitive he was.

1:43:31 And I imagine being partners with a person like that, that he brings out that.

1:43:35 And I feel like.

1:43:38 Now, as a producer, I can't say that about Tip. But I know, like, as far as making music, I know he misses his brother. I know that. But I think the industry, too. Because even, like, De La Soul, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what's my man that they miss?

1:43:49 Trugoy? Trugoy, yeah, man. And it's like, yeah, man.

1:43:53 So... Yeah. The last joint, man. Okay, last joint.

1:43:57 Let me get back to the interview. Loyalty or respect? Back to the interview?

1:44:01 Yeah, we got one more. Two more questions after this. And then you can go to the top. Now you can go to the top. We got this. We got this. Loyalty or respect? Yeah, I like that. That's the right answer. Can I have a follow-up question before I leave?

1:44:18 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

1:44:20 Now... It's his birthday.

1:44:22 If there's anything....

1:44:25 I know most of us don't live with regrets and you don't have to live with regret. That's not what I'm saying. But if there's anything that you could do over in this music industry, what would it be?

1:44:35 If I could start from scratch, I'd assign the Def Jam.

1:44:41 That's the start from scratch record. What would I do?

1:44:51 Thank you.

1:44:51 What would I do over in the music industry? Man, I don't know. I would say I have a little bit more humility.

1:44:59 Right.

1:45:02 But that bravado, that energy.

1:45:05 That's a part of hip-hop, man.

1:45:06 That's a part of hip-hop, and that's a part of what allowed me to make a classic album.

1:45:12 I think if I could do something over it, I would have.

1:45:14 Got Bad Boy to shoot the Bad Boy's video in Belize.

1:45:20 To film, yeah. Bad Boy to film. Come on, man.

1:45:24 I don't like when people say shoot.

1:45:25 Where you mind at?

1:45:28 I would have got Bad Boy to film the Bad Boy's record.

1:45:32 The video in Belize. Where did you film that at?

1:45:36 Jamaica? It made sense. Yeah, because like the belly thing with the kids behind the car.

1:45:41 And Brandon Levy's from Jamaica.

1:45:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. My Belizean... You could have done both. Jamaica and Belizean.

1:45:47 Exactly.

1:45:48 That would have been it. So my Belizean brethren and sistren.

1:45:51 They have not allowed me to escape that. I think I've made up by now.

1:45:54 All right.

1:45:55 But it still bothers me. But as a young artist, I was just happy to have a video.

1:46:00 Shine, you could still do that.

1:46:02 You could still recreate, you could do the video over that song all over again. Absolutely not. Why not? Leave that classic alone. You heard the album.

1:46:08 Leave that classic alone. This is a new classic.

1:46:11 I don't remake. I get you, but you could still go and do, you could.

1:46:14 Do a joint that leads into the new video. I don't need to recreate anything. I don't believe in recreations.

1:46:22 There's just one-on-one. That shine is a one-on-one. That Barrington shine one-on-one. I'll never do another record with him.

1:46:28 You're not going to do another record with him at all?

1:46:30 No.

1:46:30 Barrington Levy got one of my favorite records of all time. I got two records with him. Classics. Super classics.

1:46:37 How do you do that again? Easily.

1:46:39 The third one. Nah. It would have to be better than the other two. It's called the third one.

1:46:45 So let me take that back.

1:46:47 If we can make something better than Bad Boys and Bonnie and Shine, yes.

1:46:51 If not, leave it alone.

1:46:52 Well, you wouldn't know if you don't try.

1:46:53 Listen, Timberland got a record. Anyway, let me stop there.

1:46:58 Okay.

1:46:59 We'll see him this week.

1:47:00 He got this joint call. Every other day. I thought you had a follow-up question for him. I did.

1:47:05 I wanted to ask you.

1:47:07 Don't leave, guy. We're about to get up. Relax.

1:47:09 No, no.

1:47:10 Channel, bro.

1:47:12 Humbly. Humbly. You said you got talking about Q-tip and the abstract beat that you... If you could do something with Large Pro, or you could do something with P-Rock.

1:47:22 Yeah, definitely. P-Rock is my man. To embody the rest of the 10 album, the 10 songs. Five albums.

1:47:28 No, no, no.

1:47:28 The first album is done, but for the other albums, definitely. So you could put me with Large Professor. Large Professor, if.

1:47:34 You're listening, definitely.

1:47:35 That's fire.

1:47:36 Yeah, his name is Paul.

1:47:37 But P-Rock is my man, so me and P-Rock. I'm going to see P-Rock when I go to New York.

1:47:41 Y'all next week. That was my question, just following up the Q tier with the Pete Rock and Lars Proon.

1:47:45 Definitely got Pete, and I'm definitely open to Lars, Professor.

1:47:49 Thanks, Paul.

1:47:49 Thanks.

1:47:50 Yeah.

1:47:51 All right, so we wrapping up?

1:47:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:47:53 Man, thank you, man. Let me just say this. Man, I'm very proud of you, man. I'm very proud that anything that you put your mind to, you actually go there, you accomplish.

1:48:02 So many people have.

1:48:03 Been, like, you know, This is not a person that's in your position. You know what I mean? Like, you don't have something to base your shit off of. This is like, so man, I want to wish you the best of luck. The album is sounding dope. This shit is like, you know me and you are friends, but this is not friendship shit.

1:48:18 This is awesome.

1:48:19 Real shit that shit that I just heard that shit sounds fucking great continue to do that shit and I love the fact that you being you you know what I'm saying so like continue to do that shit man and this is your home anytime you want I need a Belizean beer so hold on just shut up I'm not only coming to the one in Miami. I'm going to come to another couple of shows, especially on the West Coast. West Coast.

1:48:41 And you're fortunate.

1:48:42 Yes.

1:48:43 That you still have a lovely wife.

1:48:44 Yes, that's right. God damn it. I had the pleasure of meeting you. That's right.

1:48:47 You need to bring her to Belize on a vacation.

1:48:50 I want to go. I want to go to that corner. Stop capping. This is my guy.

1:48:54 He said that.

1:48:54 How many times have we said that?

1:48:55 Listen.

1:48:56 Yeah.

1:48:58 I'm sure the tourism minister is a personal friend of mine.

1:49:01 I'm sure we can make it happen.

1:49:03 This is the 10th year anniversary. 10th year anniversary.

1:49:09 I've seen the numbers. Nobody got the numbers that.

1:49:12 2 Chainz got.

1:49:12 Let's go, let's go.

1:49:13 It's a lot of people in the space and they're doing a thing.

1:49:18 And that was a third party. Audit of our numbers, not us. Right, right, right.

1:49:36 And you know, so cheers to you guys.

1:49:38 Yes, yes, salute. Salute, man.

1:49:39 You can continue doing the numbers, keep reaching the people.

1:49:43 Thank you. Thank you, Sean. Thank you, man.

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