205: My Best Friend's Birthday (New)

0:00 I want to welcome our two amazing, lovely co-stars, Layla and Amanda, to Fake Doctors, Real Friends.

0:08 Thunderous applause now.

0:12 I want you guys to meet the lovely Joelle Monique, who is.

0:16 Our show's producer.

0:17 That's my middle name.

0:19 Your middle name is Joelle?

0:21 Really?

0:21 Oh, my gosh.

0:22 Wow.

0:22 I've never met anybody named Joelle.

0:23 It's crazy.

0:24 How do you spell your middle name? J-O-E-L-L-E. How do you spell yours?

0:28 Same spelling.

0:29 Oh, my God.

0:30 Twinsies.

0:31 Twinsies.

0:32 I'm so glad you guys are here. I wanted to ask you, have you ever, forgive this if it's a dumb question, have you been on a podcast before? Once before.

0:38 Have you been on a popular podcast before?

0:40 No, no. Well, let's first start with having been on any podcast. Let's go there.

0:43 Let's go there.

0:44 No, first podcast?

0:45 No, we've done a podcast.

0:46 We did one together.

0:47 We did one together, yeah.

0:49 But still, it's, yeah, not.

0:50 All right, well, this is how it goes. This is what's called a rewatch podcast.

0:55 Yes.

0:56 And so we watch episodes of the television program Scrubs and then we talk about them. And the fans really love it because they love the show very much and they want to hear sort of inside stories, funny anecdotes, things about Donald's marriage. They just love everything.

1:14 You know, I think I forced the marriage part on them, I'm going to be honest.

1:17 No, I think they're very invested in what's happening with you and Casey and what's happening at the house.

1:22 We should do a poll. We should find out, Joelle.

1:25 I don't want to do a poll because what if it turns out negative? What if they're like, we don't want to hear about that shit anymore?

1:29 Then we don't talk about that shit no more.

1:32 I like hearing about it. You guys, I want to talk briefly. We'll get into episode five of season two. That's what we're talking about, 205 today, everybody. But first I want to talk about your casting process because we didn't have you on season one yet. And I want to just, Tell us a little bit, like, I think that's always interesting, like how you came about auditioning for Scrubs and what was your story? Leigh, let's start with you.

1:55 I got the first audition when I was actually in Europe. I was having a little European summer trip with a bunch of my friends. And the first one came in and I remember doing a tape in an apartment and it was so hot and I was dripping sweat. And I.

2:12 I was watching clips of Scrubs on TikTok. Because I was like, I need to understand this show.

2:16 Because you'd never seen it before.

2:17 You'd never seen the show before.

2:18 I had heard of it.

2:19 I had not seen it. Oh, boy.

2:20 Wow.

2:21 But then I did.

2:21 It made me watch it. I fell in love with it.

2:23 And then I got nervous. Well, you don't have to say that. Well, I was.

2:25 Nervous when I watched it because then I was like, oh, now I really want the show.

2:29 Oh, God.

2:29 So it was better that I didn't know too much about it. And then when I got my first callback, my team called me and they're like, where in the world are you right now? And you have to do this callback. I need to know the time zone. And I was like, I think I'll be in London. And then I did my first callback there. And then I came in person. And I remember watching this podcast after going in person and you were talking about how you had just seen people in person.

2:53 And I was like, I was there.

2:54 This is crazy. Yeah, you were one of the few people we saw in real life because it was very, you know, casting for those of you who aren't in the business has really moved to Zoom and the online world.

3:06 But which is a whole nother issue.

3:08 Yeah, which is a whole nother thing. We won't go down the road. But occasionally you do get to see actors in real life. And you were one of the few cases of that. Obviously, it goes without saying you were fantastic.

3:19 It was so fun.

3:20 I remember I was so nervous. But then I walked in the room and everyone was so warm and inviting. And I was like, no matter what happens, I had a great time coming back in person. And it felt like you could feel the energy in the room.

3:33 One thing you get from an actor director person is I know how hard it is to walk into a room and I want and I know that an actor is not going to give a good performance if they're fucking terrified.

3:41 For sure.

3:42 So we try and Bill always did this, too, with us when we were auditioning, like to create that safe space. So you feel like, you know, you're comfortable, you're safe. Otherwise, you're going to who's giving a good audition if they're terrified. I mean, you're still terrified, obviously. but the most the producer can do. You remember when Bill would do that for us?

3:58 Dude, yeah, man.

3:59 He would, well, Bill did a lot for me personally. Like I blew my first audition and he was the one that came out into the lobby and was like, Donald, can I talk to you for a second?

4:10 His final audition.

4:11 Yeah, this is in front of the studio, the network, everybody, like the room was packed. And my first audition, I felt great about it, to be honest with you. But I guess I got really big as I sometimes do. And he called me into the room, and as I'm walking back, I'm like, he's about to tell me I got the part. And he turns around, and he's like, so you know you blew that the first time.

4:34 So when you came out, you didn't know that you'd fucked up?

4:37 I thought I crushed that shit. I'm in the lobby.

4:40 You were like, I'm in the zone.

4:41 Yeah, I'm in the lobby with the rest of the actors in the lobby, and we're fucking shooting the shit, and I'm gassed. I'm like, these cats are all dead. I just crushed them. And he comes back, and he's like, no, no, no. You blew that, and I need you to go back in and do it the way, and it's a joke that Zach talks about. He's like, the way you did it in the first audition. And he gave me a couple of pointers, and I went in there, and I did it the way he wanted it, and bam.

5:08 Did you do it the same day?

5:10 Same day.

5:10 Wow.

5:11 Oh, my God.

5:12 Same day. Back in the day, you guys don't know about this because you're young, but back in our day, you would go, the final audition would be in a small office, like some executive's office. And they would cram like literally 35 people.

5:24 Into a room.

5:25 And some of them were on the floor. Some of them were like leaning on the windowsill. And it would always be a cartoonish amount of people in a small room. And there would just be a chair and you, and you would go. And they've all heard the jokes 9,000 times. One thing, another thing Bill would do is even though he knew that, he would give you laughs. I mean, he wrote the damn thing.

5:44 He knew.

5:45 And he knew that everyone in the room had heard. But he was like, He would tell a funny story. He would be like, oh, you know, I wore the same outfit every callback because I was just superstitious. And Bill just turned that into sort of a warm-up joke for me. He's like, this is Zach. Zach, do you want to tell them how you haven't changed your clothes in a couple weeks? And, like, that would get everyone laughing.

6:04 He would, like, do a little warm-up bit for you, which was so generous and lovely.

6:08 If you were to look at all of our tapes when we auditioned for Scrubs, All of us have the same outfit on. You did the same thing? Yeah, Sarah Chalk did the same thing too. Every time I saw her, because Sarah and I auditioned before he did. And we only auditioned like three times. But every time I saw Sarah, Sarah had the same blue jeans. I think they were like true religion or some shit like that.

6:31 True religion. Yeah, and the same belt buckle and the same t-shirt.

6:34 I got so into my superstitions, I kept getting callbacks for the show. And I was like, I had literally gone to the gym that morning. I wasn't like in a working out phase of my life, but I had gone to the gym. I had, you know, I'd listened to certain songs and I was like, I will be doing those exact things.

6:52 You were ridiculous about it.

6:54 I went to the gym. I got on the same treadmill. I listened to the same songs in the car. I was like, did you wait?

7:00 If somebody was on the treadmill, were you like, all right, I'm gonna wait.

7:04 I think I was going early and I had no money. I was going to the cheapest gym I could find. Like there was like cobwebs on the treadmill. So it was, no one was competing for it. And, uh, Anyway, yeah, it's funny. I see that shirt, which I still have, and I smile when I'm like going through my shirts.

7:20 I can't help but smile at that shirt and being like, we did it.

7:24 I am superstitious like that too.

7:26 I was listening to like the same Frey song before every single audition I had for this.

7:30 Which one?

7:31 How to Save a Life.

7:32 How to Save a Life. That's perfect because it's a very scrub song.

7:36 Exactly.

7:36 All right, Amanda, what's your story? I mean, I know from my perspective, but how did you start your process?

7:42 Yeah.

7:43 I mean, I had definitely had a very 2025 process in terms of everything was online. I got the first tape in the mail and I remember looking at it and I was like, I need to watch the show because I need to know this tone. And I was listening to y'all's podcast from the pandemic and I was trying to figure out, I was like, okay, this is the tone. This is the vibe. Okay, let's see if we can do it. Let's have a little fun. And I like comedy. So I was trying to like have a little fun with it. And I also was superstitious, so I have the same shirt that I wore throughout all of my processes and my director's callback. And I brought it with me for season one. It's this Uniqlo green.

8:21 Uniqlo.

8:22 Yeah, my Uniqlo t-shirt that got me through everything. And I remember I had the first callback. They brought me back. And thankfully, I got to do both of my auditions in an office in person. So I did a tape at first. And then the second time I came back and it was all film. So it was all sent to L.A. And so I did another tape in person.

8:42 I was like, okay, they want to come back. We're going to zhuzh Dashaun up a little bit. We're going to try it a different angle. I could do that. I was like, I'm flexible, I'm flexible. And then I remember I had the director's callback and I didn't realize that you were going to be there.

8:54 You didn't realize I was the director?

8:56 I did not realize that you were the director.

8:57 Yeah, I didn't want to throw people because it's tricky because I wanted to be supportive and be there and be like, hey, I'm going to read with you. It's all going to be good. But also I didn't want to get in people's heads.

9:06 It was... Honestly, nice. It was so comforting because I remember you said there was something I did and I made you laugh and you were like, that was funny. I laughed and I was like, oh, awesome.

9:18 Well, it's funny because what happens for those of you who don't know is that we're all on a Zoom call, right? And then we all, everyone who's not the reader with the actor or actress hides their camera and mutes. And it's tough when it's the opposite of we're in a room together because you would hear me laugh. But on the Zoom thing... We all have to mute ourselves. So I was coming on to be like, hey, I just want you to know that I was laughing at what you were saying.

9:41 Which made me feel so comfortable because I was like, I'm throwing jokes to the wind right now.

9:47 See, that's another thing. Back in the day when you're in the room and you had all the producers there, they would laugh and that would give you juice to be like, oh, shit, I'm kind of killing it. Here we go.

9:55 And it would also scare the shit out of whoever was sitting in the freaking waiting room. In the waiting room, man.

10:00 I remember one time, I'm not going to say what I auditioned for, but this, I was, I had already gotten a part and I knew it, right? But I'm sitting there waiting for, to talk to everybody after and now they're reading this next character and this one guy goes in and nobody laughs and he comes out and he sits down And then the next guy goes in and the whole fucking.

10:22 Room goes crazy. That was so hard. You would hear everybody go.

10:27 Yeah.

10:28 And I know the other guy that went in, when he heard the first laugh, he was like, fuck.

10:35 I'm dead.

10:35 There were these waiting room games, too, that people would play. I don't know if this still goes on when people, but, like, there's actors out there who, like, they know you're going next.

10:43 Yeah.

10:43 And they'll start talking to you, like, so what have you been up to, man?

10:45 Like.

10:46 And like, they're like, you just start a conversation and you're like, when you're young and naive, you just start going down the road and then they go, okay, Zach. And you haven't even like, you're totally lost track of your shit. You forgot your lines. You're not in the zone. Because this dude was talking your.

10:59 Ear off trying to throw your game.

11:01 That's awful.

11:02 That's that New York shit.

11:03 That's how we came up, yo.

11:04 That's how we came up.

11:05 That's how you came up, yo.

11:06 Oh, yeah, man. There's a lot of waiting room shit.

11:09 I'll never forget this. Marlon Wayans is a perfect example of this shit. We used to ride the bus, the M11 bus home every day up into Harlem, right? Well, I would go up to my parents' theater, and he was going to his projects, right? And I'll never forget this. I would see him at auditions all the time. And one day we're going into an audition and no, he's coming out and I'm going in and I'm like, yo, where's the thing at? I'm running so late. And he goes, typical Donald. And he goes, oh, it's right there.

11:40 It's over there. All you got to do is go up in that room. I go to the room. It's the motherfucking bathroom. It's the motherfucking bathroom.

11:47 Oh, he played you like a fiddle.

11:48 Oh my God.

11:49 He dips out and I come out, but he's about to elevate me. He's like, as the shit closes in his face.

11:56 I remember a kid who used to cry. He'd come out swiping his tears at every audition.

12:02 Like he'd do a wet take or he was emotional?

12:05 I'm saying whatever happened in the room... he would come out crying and we were all like flipping through our sides, being like, where's the crying scene? And we, and, but like, he just figured out, like if he finds a place to cry, that they would be like, wow, he's fucking good.

12:22 He's a good actor.

12:22 He's a good actor. He can cry.

12:24 And, and it happened.

12:27 It would happen. Like every, we would always up against this up for the same shit. And he would come out and everyone's sitting in the waiting room and he's swiping away his tears. And we, and once somebody asked him like, yeah, why are you, why are you crying? And he's like, oh, I just got, I just took me there. I went there. And I'm like, we're all like, but it's like a sitcom. And then, and then, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, he fell for that shit. But I remember one time somebody was like, how do you do that? How do you just like automatically cry on cue all the time? And he was like, I just think anyone being mean to animals.

12:58 Oh my God.

13:02 And he would just start sobbing. Anyway, let's get into 205. Count us in, Donald. Five, six, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses.

13:13 And a janitor who loved to hate. I said, here's the stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald.

13:29 Mm-hmm.

13:31 All right, here we go, you guys. This is a very good episode.

13:35 I laughed quite a bit in this episode.

13:37 I think this is one of the, I think episode five of season two of The Revival is one of the best ones so far.

13:43 It's a nice ramp up too. Like it starts off and everything's kind of calm. Well, there's a little bit of beef in between Amara and Deshaun in the beginning, but it starts off kind of calm and by the end of.

13:55 It, It's crazy, man.

13:57 Yes, it goes off the rails. And we'll get into it. But I think you guys did such a good job. Your storyline together is so funny. You guys play it so real. I love you guys together.

14:09 Yes.

14:09 You're such a good comic duo together. You take turns playing the straight man. I mean, that's what Donald and I have done for years. We take turns, you know, because if you have two people being broad, it kind of gets muddy. But I think you guys are lovely in your dynamic of taking turns. with who's being the crazy person and who's being the sane one, you know what I mean? And there was a great dance in this one that culminates in the fight in Turk's office, which we'll get to.

14:35 We'll get to that part.

14:36 I want to open with the beach. I want to give a shout out to Roger Fiers, our amazing production designer, because we were supposed to shoot this beach stuff on a real beach. But the weather up here in Vancouver, you can never really predict. And it was all of a sudden on those days scheduled to rain. So Roger and his amazing team built a beach on our stage.

14:57 And that's a green screen. By the time you audience see it, it'll all look real, but that's a green screen beach on our stage. I want to give him a shout out.

15:07 Let's talk about the storyline.

15:08 Okay. So we have Bilson back and Scott Foley. And obviously it's very hard to date a doctor with this schedule. And so that's one of the things that this show is getting into. this episode is getting into is that if you're a loved one of a nurse or a doctor who works in a hospital, the hours can be grueling and it can be frustrating, especially in the dating courtship phase.

15:27 Right.

15:28 Uh, and we learned that early on with Charlie and with, uh, Sean that they're, well, Charlie's getting used to it. Sean's been through this before. This, it reminds him of what his dating life was like with Elliot before. And, uh, you know, that's, it's, it's funny moments, uh, That cold open, I was like, oh, snap.

15:50 Is that what?

15:51 Are we going to see this a lot this season? And Rachel Bilson rips open her top.

15:57 Yes. And the dude falls.

15:58 Yeah, collapses.

16:00 Hindsight being 20-20, this is part of the reason why Sean was like, oh.

16:06 Oh, I didn't even think of that.

16:07 Yeah.

16:08 So you're saying the seeds of what happened at the end were planted when- In the beginning.

16:12 Of the show.

16:13 I didn't even think of that. When Sean sees how fine Rachel is.

16:16 He's like, yo, don't you got a beast? He even tries to get you out of there. Don't you got a beast somewhere, dog?

16:22 There were so many alts to that. Plenty of doctors in the hospital, Sean. He'll be fine, Sean. Well, Rachel, yeah, I didn't even think of that. The seeds of their relationship are planted at the very top.

16:37 Yes.

16:38 You know, so Deshaun and Amara are fighting. We know it's a fruit cup. And we set up because true fans of the show know that Turk and JD used to, when they were broke, interns used to steal fruit cups. So that's what Turk is reminded of. And raccoons are becoming a theme on the show.

16:56 Yes.

16:57 Do you notice that?

16:58 Yes.

16:58 They keep coming up. The audience will see that they come up in other episodes. And we keep going back and forth on how you and I pronounce raccoons.

17:04 Raccoons, yeah. I say raccoon. You were saying raccoon.

17:07 I was saying raccoons.

17:08 And then you were told it was raccoon.

17:10 No, but I just thought it would be funny if JD pronounced it raccoon. But then what happened was we chose a take where I say raccoon, but then you say raccoon. And I say raccoon, yeah. I just thought it would be a funny, stupid, nonsensical runner if Turk and JD both say raccoon. But we ended up putting a take in where I say raccoon and only you say raccoon. Yes. Just wanted to clock that for the audience.

17:35 I want to pitch this. I don't know if this is happening. This could be a big mistake, but I want to pitch that we get a puppet raccoon at some point.

17:43 In this show.

17:44 It would probably be more like, that would be a little too like, what's the golf movie? Caddyshack.

17:49 Exactly, yes.

17:50 I think it would be more like a CGI raccoon.

17:52 Okay, fine.

17:52 Because we do have a possum coming up, and I heard that he's going to be a CGI possum.

17:58 Well, they've come a long way.

18:00 But puppets look like puppets. Okay, so y'all are fighting, and I thought it was funny when Amanda Deshana says, I kind of saw it coming when you're talking about how your wife left you.

18:11 Oh, yeah.

18:12 That's fucked up, man.

18:13 Oh, it's so.

18:15 Yeah, but if you're watching the show, Turk beef. Messing up a.

18:19 Lot at home, man. Yeah, all the time. I think that's funny that she says, I kind of saw it coming, on a trip, Deshauna. Right.

18:26 I just love it when Deshauna catches little strays.

18:29 Like, damn, sorry.

18:31 Well, you consistently, shots are fired consistently with your character towards my character.

18:39 Absolutely.

18:39 I can just imagine her in the hallway watching everything being like, Noted.

18:43 She really, she's not very intimidated by Turk. Like she respects him as a surgeon and as a brilliant doctor, but she doesn't seem really intimidated by him at all. She's constantly, maybe that's a generational thing, but she's just like, shooting shots.

18:57 100%.

18:58 I think she knows her confidence. She knows exactly what she's capable of. She knows what he's capable of. And I feel like Deshauna can see that and was like, hey, these are all similarities.

19:07 Yeah. But that's a fun foil for Turk because she's matching his cockiness.

19:12 Mm-hmm.

19:13 Yeah.

19:13 Which is the exact opposite of Amara, who let, I mean, still to this point, even after the choke and everything like that and thrown against the wall in the fantasy and her standing up for herself with hooch and everything like that she still you know allows uh dashana to almost bully her in a lot of ways.

19:34 Yeah yeah she's still not all the way.

19:35 There yet yeah even with the even with explaining it to the the the patient uh who later on mr whistler yeah uh even explaining it to him she's like you know what what i do is i just pretty much bury my head in the sand and I allow her to do whatever.

19:52 She wants, but I'm not going to do that to you. What I'm going to do is I'm going to get you some earplugs.

19:55 Yeah, because you have a heart thing. I like that.

19:57 Yeah.

19:57 But you shouldn't do that because you have a heart thing.

19:59 Right.

20:02 I want to say something funny about kicking that old man in the trunk. I didn't know.

20:06 Oh, that was.

20:07 I didn't know it was a stuntman, first of all. No, I wasn't kicking him at first. We were just doing, like, closing the door and trying to get the trunk down. And then Trevor, who's our amazing stunt coordinator, came over to me and was like, you know, you can be rougher. He's a stuntman. And I said to him, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know you're a stuntman. I go, do you mind if we do a bit where I'm trying to kick your shoulder a bit? He goes, go nuts. I was like, are you sure? He's like, yes, it'll be so funny. So I just started, like, good fellas.

20:33 Oh, my God. That's hella funny. Let it happen.

20:37 Wasn't that funny?

20:38 That was hilarious.

20:39 We were cracking up on the day. And in my head, I'm like, this isn't going to make it. This is just too crazy.

20:43 And then it cuts to the Scorsese Goodfellas shot.

20:45 Yeah, then I gave him the full Goodfellas.

20:47 Yeah.

20:48 And then even the trunk closing on his head.

20:49 That didn't happen.

20:50 How did you guys do that? Did they put a cameraman in the trunk for that?

20:53 The seats folded down. So yeah, the cameraman wasn't locked in the trunk. It was one of those seats folded down situations.

20:59 Dope.

21:00 But yeah, that was well done. Um, let's get to, yeah. So Sean and Charlie are hanging out in admissions. She shakes her shoulder. Did you know that she shakes her shoulders to the good dunk of the song?

21:17 And this was, this was different from the original. Like I've, I, I don't know if you noticed, Joel, but I watch this thing over and over again.

21:24 Donald has been granted access to early cuts now, Joel.

21:27 This was a mistake.

21:27 And I don't know if it's good or bad.

21:29 This was a mistake.

21:30 Now he has to compare earlier cuts to the final cut.

21:33 No, that's not what the mistake is.

21:35 The mistake is that I'm watching every episode like four or five times.

21:38 Why is that bad? That's good for the podcast.

21:41 It's not good for you, though, because you know what's going to come from me.

21:44 Well, no, you don't seem to object with what we settled in on as the locked cut ever.

21:47 No, never.

21:48 But I come to you in the middle of freaking the director's cut and I'll be like, yo, I got notes.

21:52 Yeah, well, that's understandable. The director's cut is always very long and has jokes that didn't work. And each cut we whittle down, we whittle down. We have to get these shows to 21 minutes and 30 seconds, which is super tricky. and inevitably funny stuff gets gone. You know, the dance sequence that we did, uh, season one.

22:11 One of our brisket.

22:12 Oh yeah.

22:12 One of our camera operators came up to me, Brooke and James, I want you to remind me to get this to Brooke because she came up to me and it was so sweet and earnest. And she's like, do you think I could see the dance sequence about the brisket? She goes, it was cut. And I thought it was so funny and I'd love to see it. And I was like, I'll get you the sequence, Brooke. I felt so bad because, you know, obviously our crew works so hard on things and inevitably stuff gets cut. But we're trying to put some more of that stuff on Instagram.

22:42 That's the other mistake for you giving me the freaking rights to look at all of this stuff, man. Because when things get cut, I do get disappointed sometimes also.

22:50 Me too.

22:51 That was a big one too.

22:52 That was like a whole day. That was a lot of folks in there.

22:55 Dancing and singing.

22:56 It was. And sweating.

22:58 Yeah.

22:59 Yeah, it just comes down to, you know, you have to make tough choices.

23:04 For sure. You know?

23:05 Well, I hope, I don't want to, I'm not going to give it away, but we do something really epic in episode.

23:11 That's not going to get cut.

23:12 Shut up.

23:13 I know what you're talking about.

23:14 Oh, yeah.

23:14 That cannot get cut.

23:16 That's not going to get cut. All right, let's talk about my Cox impression. Not bad.

23:23 Not bad at all. You actually sounded like.

23:24 Him a couple times. Well, you know what I did? I got to tell you my cheat code. I called Johnny and said... Would you lay this down for me? I want to make sure I do you justice.

23:33 Right on.

23:34 So he sent me audio on my phone, three different takes of it, because he's amazing and I love him.

23:41 Not bad.

23:42 And so I summoned my inner Johnny being inspired by those audio recordings.

23:48 Not. Not bad. Not bad. Yeah, it was really good.

23:51 Thank you. I couldn't do the whistle. The whistle is Johnny. We stole that from another episode, his whistle.

24:00 That's pretty close.

24:01 Yeah, but he can do like one of these.

24:02 Yeah, he hits his power to it.

24:04 But he doesn't even put his hand in his mouth.

24:06 Yeah, he's a very good whistler. He's a whistler. Asher's first night alone. Let's get to that storyline. I love this story.

24:13 So did I.

24:14 I really thought that Jacob and Ava are so sweet in this storyline.

24:21 Yes, yeah.

24:23 And, you know, we learn, obviously we're going to learn what happens in the end, but I think Penny, no snoring during the podcast.

24:29 She's having dreams down there.

24:30 Yeah, she's dreaming about Ash and Todd. Okay, and then we, of course, learn the main story point of the night that Turk is excited for his big steak night. And talk about how this was inspired by the writers in real life.

24:43 So I was trying to ball out in front of the writers like, yo, I'm an executive producer.

24:50 Aseem was here.

24:53 She was the showrunner of the show, and she had a bunch of writers in town with her. And to celebrate, I was like, I'm going to take you all out to steak. Now, this is after Zach has taken everybody out to dinner several times.

25:06 Every Saturday night, we do a dinner. We're going to do one tonight. We do a cast bonding dinner at a nice restaurant. But Donald decided he... I couldn't go out.

25:12 It was a school night. It was a school night.

25:13 I don't go out on school nights. Right. And Donald was going to take all the writers out.

25:17 Yes. And I did that.

25:20 And.

25:20 you know, a couple other people showed up, and it was a fun night, and we were, you know, we got inebriated.

25:28 But the thing was, I didn't realize that they were gonna.

25:32 I didn't know that they were going to order such expensive cuts.

25:35 Right, right, right.

25:37 This dude gets out there and he's like, get whatever you want, get whatever you want. So they take him up on it.

25:41 No, but when a motherfucker says, get whatever you want, get whatever you want, that should be code for don't get whatever you want.

25:48 In a black household, that's code for it.

25:50 Be mindful. This ain't no freaking, you know.

26:00 These dudes ordered like A5 Wagyu. No, that was.

26:03 Wait, hold on. This is a culmination of two nights. But the first night, we went crazy and we had a great time. And my business manager was like, it's not a problem. Don't worry about it.

26:17 I love that your business manager would be like, that dinner was a problem.

26:19 Right, that would have been nuts, right? But my business manager was like, it's cool, don't trip. So now I'm like, all right, we're going to do it again. And this time, Zach can go... I will tell you something right now.

26:30 That one was a lot. There was a little bit of, like, anger behind your ordering.

26:38 There was a little bit of resentment that I pay for every dinner. I went a little crazy. I did get the A5. I did order an expensive ass bottle of wine. Because I was so pissed that Donald was complaining about picking up one check. So I was like, you know what? Donald, are you picking up again? I will be attending this time. So anyway, they bring out a decanter and he's like, Donald's like, what the hell wine did you order that needs a decanter? And then I did look, I did clock that check. That check was crazy.

27:10 That check was not a joke.

27:11 But you're going to be fine.

27:12 Yeah.

27:13 All right.

27:13 So we wanted to put some of those fun stories. Donald does love steak. He does love looking at the meat board when they.

27:19 And there was an actual golden steak at that point, too.

27:21 But was it display or was it golden? There was gold on it?

27:25 No, it was a display.

27:26 Oh, okay.

27:26 It was also a display.

27:26 So that came from the real life, that there was a display steak. And I was like, we eating.

27:31 That shit tonight.

27:32 It was a night, too, and everyone was banging on the door.

27:34 Do you remember that?

27:36 Yes, yes.

27:36 That was a rowdy night at Black and Blue.

27:39 We should give a shout out to Black and Blue. It's our favorite steakhouse here in Vancouver. If you're ever in town, it's where we go to a lot of steak nights.

27:46 Yes.

27:47 It's our go-to Vancouver steak night. In fact, so much so that Donald has befriended one of the waiters and he came and played a waiter.

27:56 Yeah, he did background work.

27:57 Background work in the steak night.

27:59 Yes.

28:00 And every time I go to Black and Blue now, they always lace me with a nice little area and I get to eat good steak. So shout out Black and Blue.

28:12 All right. I laughed when... So JD and. And Elliot are fighting over if they can bring their significant others. And JD says, let me, I need someplace to put my love. Let me park it in her. Yes. Let me park it in her.

28:28 Us both having that written down.

28:30 Did you guys write that down?

28:31 Yeah.

28:32 It's so funny.

28:33 Let me park it in her.

28:36 That was not in the script. It's so tender.

28:38 We were cracking up.

28:40 We had each other rolling. Let me park it in her truck.

28:44 At one point, it got real growly, too. It got crazy.

28:47 Let me park it in her truck.

28:50 That's so scary. I don't like that one. No.

28:55 Let's talk about Dubois' ghost story.

28:57 Oh, my gosh. I loved that.

28:58 And the hey girl.

28:59 What is it? Oh, my God.

29:00 And the hey girl at the end.

29:02 Let's talk about Michael James Scott.

29:04 Yeah, let's talk about him. So that was a really funny monologue, and Michael nailed it. And I was worried at the time, in the spirit of 21 minutes and 30 seconds, were we going to be able to keep this whole thing? But I got to tell you, when we got to the edit room, we were like, we can't cut this. It's so funny. And he crushed it.

29:19 Not just that, but also Jacob's turn on it also is really dope, too, on how he's like, I'm from London, man.

29:26 Ghosts don't scare me. Come on.

29:29 And it pays off in the end where he finds his comfort he feels at home in said ghost room.

29:35 Yeah, that's very sweet. I didn't even think of that. This is so good, because you watch episodes so many times, you're seeing all these insights.

29:42 Bro.

29:42 I'm really proud of you. You've really leveled up your podcast game.

29:45 Thank you. Joelle, you see how I do?

29:47 Joelle, you see how we level up?

29:48 I do see. I, too, feel pride.

29:50 Joelle, we got a fancy set and now Donald, like, does fucking, like, watches the episode five times and sees little insights.

29:58 It's like a real return on investment here. Listen, I'm going to tell you something.

30:03 It is a real return on investment. And look, Joelle, he has a notepad and he brought today.

30:09 Don't show that. How do you feel about it, Donald? Are you feeling the pride as well?

30:14 Look, this is really ridiculous that you guys are doing this. It's not that big of a deal.

30:19 Oh, it is.

30:20 I'm proud of you.

30:21 You're dialed.

30:21 Was I that bad?

30:23 Well, you were in a dark room on the floor. In the beginning, you were in your closet.

30:27 Yeah.

30:27 You were mega baked.

30:30 Who says I'm not mega baked now?

30:32 Oh, here we go. Hold on.

30:33 Who says I'm not mega baked now?

30:36 Okay.

30:37 Yeah.

30:37 Wow. Did you not know we have sound effects?

30:40 That's a bong.

30:41 I don't smoke from a bong anymore.

30:42 You don't?

30:43 Well, not up in Vancouver.

30:44 This is Donald's wife and how she feels about me.

30:47 Zach, I love you. Zach, I love you.

30:49 Zach, Zach, Zach.

30:50 You know what's crazy is that the more I hear that, the more I can hear the love in her voice.

30:54 Yeah.

30:54 I love you.

30:55 Yeah.

30:55 Zach, I love you. Zach, I love you. Zach, I love you. That sounds like a B tag. So, okay. I want to give a shout out to our assistant editor, Deepa, because she's amazing. And she did something. She does a lot of clever things. And I don't know if you guys caught this, but when Dubois is talking about the haunted room, you hear the ding-ding of the call. She says every night that call bell rings. And it's a little subtle thing, but while Dubois is talking, you hear ding-ding.

31:27 And I love little elegant touches like that, and I cannot take credit for them. There are so many people who work on the show. But that's something that our assistant editor, Deepa, put in there, and I was like, oh, I love that.

31:38 Okay, so.

31:39 Should we talk about shooting that dinner scene all day?

31:41 No, I want to talk about a couple of things. Go ahead.

31:44 I want to talk about the interns and what they're doing in the hospital at night. Because at one point, Asher says to Tosh, if you're asking if I can do it again, the answer's pretty much no. About sex. About sex. Are they doing it in the hospital? Did she come back so they could do it in the hospital?

32:01 No, I inferred that they had had sex once that day. And he's saying, hey, I'm a one time a day kind of guy. By the way, I never thought it was going to last because it wasn't in the script that when she points to her groin and goes, he's tired. I never thought ABC was going to let that on the air.

32:17 It stayed.

32:18 But they did.

32:19 It's hilarious.

32:19 We occasionally get things like that on.

32:21 And then also- He's tired. You guys aren't allowed to hook up in the house at.

32:30 All because- Well, she's not letting- Right.

32:32 Absolutely not.

32:32 Because- It pays dividends, folks. It pays dividends later on. But when watching it, I was like, damn, Deshauna is just in full control of this relationship.

32:44 She was a tight ship.

32:47 Deshauna has a lot of rules.

32:49 Deshauna got a lot going on in there.

32:51 That only benefit her.

32:53 Right.

32:53 You know what I mean?

32:54 That's true.

32:55 We're going to see, without spoilers, we're going to see how that evolves throughout the season. But I think they're really teeing up. your dynamic in a great way.

33:03 Oh, yeah.

33:04 Because you're so alpha and, like, headstrong, and she's, you know, being bullied by you, essentially. She's like, I have a new boyfriend. Like, can he ever come over?

33:13 No.

33:14 She's like, why can't I have sex with him? Yeah. She moves out of her aunt's house. I can't ever have sex with him?

33:18 Right.

33:18 And then, well, it'll pay dividends. Never mind. I'll let it go.

33:23 So we shot at this steakhouse all day long because there's so many scenes, and... there's so much coverage you have to shoot of all of us around that table that we, I've never done this in my whole career for an entire day. All of us sat around that table and shot all day long.

33:41 I like days like that though.

33:42 I like days where you spend a whole day shooting pretty much three or four scenes and they take the time to work it because then it really feels like you get everything out that you want.

33:55 To get out.

33:55 So what you guys are seeing on film, we block shot that. And so, There were several.

34:02 Explain what that means.

34:03 Okay, so block shooting is when you have a... You look at your schedule and you're like, wow, we have so many shots that we need to do. It would be great if we just do all of our shots facing this way first and then we'll turn around and shoot the remaining shots the opposite way.

34:20 Through multiple scenes.

34:21 Through multiple scenes. And then if we need to, we'll get a couple of angles here and there and stuff like that. But for the most part, We're going to start this way for one half of the day and then we're going to turn it around the other half. And so that's what we did that day. But in doing that, you get to work each scene until you get it. Because once they turn around, they turn around and there's no, okay, I'm going to, I'll be right back.

34:45 I'm going to work out this other thing. So you come in and you've got a great idea of what you want to do and then you get to do it until.

34:53 you.

34:53 Feel really satisfied about it. And that's, what's great about, I love days like that. And you're getting everything from everybody else because now they're in their mind, depending on which way you start in their mind, they're like, all right, when it gets to that part, I'm going to do this.

35:08 And when it gets to this part, I'm going to do that. And when it gets to, and.

35:10 That makes it so much fucking, it makes it exciting for the scene because you know, when it's all said and done, you're going to have a great scene. And so it's really important that the person that starts off the block shooting starts off with a bang and, I'd like to say I started off the block shooting that day.

35:24 Yes, you did.

35:25 We started with Donald, and you brought it, and you were very funny. Just put it out there. Yeah, you did a good job.

35:31 Dancing on a bum knee.

35:34 Wait, did you hurt your knee with your dancing?

35:35 Do you remember James Brown?

35:37 No.

35:38 You don't remember James Brown. No, I remember James Brown, but what's the context?

35:41 I did the splits.

35:42 Oh, yeah.

35:42 Did you hurt your knee?

35:43 I did. It was swollen for weeks. Oh, my God.

35:46 You hurt your knee doing James Brown?

35:47 For weeks.

35:47 Ask Wayne. It's on the books. Okay.

35:50 Oh, wow.

35:50 There you go, everyone. He's getting injured.

35:52 You see what I do for y'all?

35:54 He's getting injured, making y'all laugh.

35:56 It was really impressive.

35:57 Thank you very much. You were there that day. I was.

35:59 That was amazing.

36:00 You were impressive that day as well.

36:02 JD is so desperate for Charlie to like him. I mean, that's what's funny is how needy, to me, it's funny, how needy he's being. He's like, are you having a good time?

36:11 Dude, he kisses her shoulder.

36:13 He kisses her shoulder like, are you having a good time? And then he starts noticing that she's kind of checked out. And that's when he asked Turk to go full party boy.

36:20 This is a real person that you've experienced before.

36:23 What do you mean?

36:24 You've seen me at restaurants like this before. Oh, yeah.

36:26 Donald definitely gets loud when he's got a few in him, and he can definitely go full party boy.

36:33 And I try to get the table. I try to get everybody involved, too.

36:35 Yeah, he tries to get the party going.

36:37 Joel, have you ever seen full party boy?

36:39 No, Joel hasn't witnessed it.

36:40 I have not witnessed it yet, unfortunately.

36:42 Unfortunately.

36:42 But I look forward to it. Would you like to witness full party boy? We need to go out and eat.

36:46 Are you buying? Yeah, of course.

36:47 Come on.

36:48 Let's do it. Just order Wagyu A5.

36:50 Thousand percent right let's talk.

36:51 About sarah licking her olives now she used to have three olives and i believe it was donald who said to her it would be funnier if it was just two olives because it'll look like balls yes and sarah agreed that that was funnier yes and so she started tonguing those olives she tongued the.

37:06 Shit out of those oh my word I know I'm not alone in this situation.

37:15 No, I got to tell you, everyone at the table, from Rachel to Foley to Donald to me, was like, wow, we're seeing a skill set we didn't know Sarah had.

37:28 Okay, but can we talk about how hot Sarah looks?

37:31 She looks very sexy.

37:32 In that dress, she looks amazing.

37:34 She looks very hot, and she was... We've all.

37:36 Been on the boat. We all know what Sarah's working with.

37:39 She's gorgeous.

37:39 She's got it going on.

37:41 Sarah is so hot, and it was successfully sexual when she tongued the olives.

37:47 It was very, yes. It was uncomfortable and arousing at the same time.

37:53 Yes.

37:53 Because it was like, oh, my God, that's my sister.

37:56 Oh, my God. She's tonguing the crap out.

37:59 Of some olives.

38:00 Yes.

38:02 There you go. Tannins and champagne. We thought it would be funny if we made that up on the day. We had to look up if champagne, what the tannins were in champagne. And we learned that there were none.

38:15 There are none.

38:15 We thought it funny if Foley corrected JD and says there are no tannins.

38:21 We should talk about Foley also and how great he is. And also Rachel and how great she is. They only had two episodes this season and both of them, well, Foley only had two episodes this season and he crushed both of them.

38:38 He was just so amazing. He fits in so well with the comedy style.

38:40 I wish they were around longer. I really wish they were around longer. It's just, we have so many characters on this show. And obviously their availability, they're both busy actors, but. I loved the episodes.

38:54 That they both were, you know what I mean?

38:56 And when this was over, obviously at the end when they're hooking up, it's like, it's hilarious. But I'm like, oh, we're going to have to find a clever way for them both to come back because I so love having them around.

39:07 Yeah, absolutely.

39:09 Dubois' bitchiness... Starts around 10 p.m., we learned.

39:13 The bald strays are so funny.

39:15 Catching strays for being bald.

39:17 Why does he think Tosh is going to go bald? She has the most beautiful 25-year-old hair.

39:23 Full head hair.

39:24 Yeah, do you think he's jealous of her young person hair?

39:27 Absolutely.

39:28 But it's just so funny to just be like. like, you got some aunts that are going bald? Because you look like you're going bald.

39:35 Well, she warns him, like, hey, just so you know, Asher, around 10 p.m.

39:43 Dubois goes crazy bitch.

39:44 He goes full bitchy, and I came in to catch strays for you. And right on the clock, he comes in and is like, do you have ants that are going bald? Because you look like you're going bald. And all of his shots fired are about baldness.

40:00 Yes, because he's jealous, because he's bald. When he tells a story about, who is it?

40:07 Gerald.

40:08 Oh, this part? Oh, my God.

40:09 Gerald.

40:10 Catching me with Gerald.

40:12 Yeah, Marcus. No, Marcus.

40:14 Marcus.

40:14 Gerald. Marcus catching me with Gerald. That shit was hilarious.

40:18 You shouldn't stress. That's going to happen to you. Because you're going bald.

40:24 That was funny when he goes. When Heath did that throw away, walk away, that's why you going bald.

40:29 Wishing baldness on others.

40:31 The delivery.

40:32 That shit was so funny.

40:33 I love it. Every time.

40:35 First of all, I laugh every time, no matter what he says.

40:37 Every time.

40:38 But when Heath did that throw away, turn away, that's why you going bald. That's why you going bald.

40:43 It reminded me, here, take those bananas.

40:45 Yeah.

40:45 It was like, here, take those bananas.

40:48 For those of you who don't know, Beverly Hills Cop.

41:00 Yeah, I was laughing when Rachel goes, golden.

41:02 Steak, golden steak. Okay, so.

41:06 It's always frozen in the pediatrics ward.

41:09 Sorry, go ahead.

41:10 That was also something that's crazy. So we should go back and talk about what's happening.

41:15 In the hospital.

41:16 Yes, get us on story.

41:19 So at some point, Asher misses a couple of things, and it makes it so that Mr. Whistler, who Mara has... become very fond of has to be attended to by Deshauna.

41:35 Yeah, she hands her off because she has an emergency related to Asher's patient.

41:39 Right. And in that time, Mr. Whistler, unfortunately... Is it Wurtzel?

41:44 I think it's Witzel.

41:45 Witzel. Witzel. Thank you. Mr. Witzel somehow... Mr.

41:48 Witzel, hey.

41:53 Somehow he dies.

41:53 Yeah. I want to say that that scene where Tosh helps Asher with the guy who has necrotizing fasciitis on his leg, I get goosebumps every time.

42:08 Because?

42:09 Because I think I really love what the writers are doing with this story of Tosh, even though she's silly and she's goofy, she's actually a really great doctor. And I love later when Asher admits, you're great at this. And I love, we're going to learn that she's coming in, she's lying. She came in solely to truly look after him.

42:35 But when she catches that mistake, that the guy could lose his leg, and she's like, no, no, there's no time, Asher. He goes, I'll pay Jamara right away. Like her actually catching something. I just thought that scene was really well acted and really well directed. And I thought it was, I don't know. All I can tell you is I've seen it a zillion times and I get goosebumps every time.

42:56 Well, I love all of it because it transferred, the energy transfers. You know, Mara gets to Paige. She runs into Deshauna. Deshauna's like, I got you. And even though they're beefing, they're still that sisterhood. Don't worry about it.

43:09 I got you.

43:10 And she runs to handle Asher's patient. And then we cut back to steak night and somebody's dead.

43:19 You know what I mean?

43:20 And as an audience member, like so far as an audience member, I really do. As you said, you were like, it's very, you know, you like the energy in that. I really love the energy in that thing because it just gets better. Like I was talking about how it ramps up. So now this is where the ramp really happens.

43:37 Like everything's starting to happen. And then.

43:39 Boom, it all comes crashing down with someone dying, and you automatically think that it is.

43:46 You don't know that it's Mr. Wurzel.

43:49 Witzel.

43:50 Witzel.

43:50 However, yeah.

43:51 Right, I mean, there is a mislead there, right? You think that it's going to be the guy that just got... I mean, I assume when I read it that it's the patient that Asher may have fucked up. But then it turns out it's the patient that she handed off, which is the cause of the beef that's happening in Turk's office.

44:07 Right.

44:07 Let's get to that scene.

44:08 So this is my favorite scene of the episode.

44:09 Yeah, this scene is great.

44:10 You guys crushed it. This scene is so good.

44:12 You guys are so funny together.

44:13 Together, you guys.

44:15 By yourselves, too, but together, you guys are like freaking the Wonder Twins.

44:18 I get you guys.

44:19 I fucking get you guys.

44:20 They probably don't know what that is.

44:21 It's the freaking... It's old. They're superheroes.

44:23 Yeah.

44:24 But I get... I get... I get you guys mixed up a lot. You know what I mean?

44:29 Yeah.

44:29 You can see Amara.

44:30 Amara.

44:30 Yeah. And doing this, I'm sitting here and I'm having to think about it. You know what I mean?

44:35 Not only do I get you guys mixed up as characters, I sometimes get you guys mixed up as people too. And that's just a testament because you guys bounce off of each other so well.

44:44 And this scene... shows it. It's like, it highlights. This is the highlight.

44:48 Like, when I watched this scene, I got to play with so much because of what you guys were doing. I remember I studied real hard for the, you know, I studied hard for this scene because I knew it was an important scene, right? And so when I came in, I was like, I'm about to freaking show these young whippersnappers what it is. And then you guys were already on point and I was like, oh, shit.

45:09 But that just goes to show you when you guys... This is like the most simple lesson. When all three actors know their shit as well as you guys do. And people who listen to the podcast know we've talked about how fast we have to shoot this show. So if people don't know their shit that well and you're kind of struggling to get it, half the time is wasted just getting it. You three came into that scene knowing your shit so well, ready to go. And so you start at a fucking... B plus right and then it jumps to A plus then you get warmed up and then it jumps to like an A plus and that's how you get such a great it's multiple scenes actually but that's how Those multiple scenes in that room with y'all are so good. You guys getting heated. I

45:51 laugh every time with the Uber driver, Kareem, who understands you.

45:55 Or when Deshauna's like, yeah, that's exactly what I did.

45:58 I said, yeah, do you.

45:59 Do you. Your delivery on that is so funny. Yeah, I said, do you.

46:05 Right. This is my favorite scene.

46:09 And now at this point, it's like, how can I want to recapture what we.

46:13 Did every time we do it.

46:15 So you and I had a scene recently and I was like, how do I get there? I studied, I studied, I studied and we worked it out and we got there. You guys will get there when the episodes get there, but every scene is like that. Uh, now for me at least, you know, and sometimes I know my lines really good and sometimes I don't, that's just, You know, my brain.

46:37 No, but me and Amanda were talking about it the other day about how much of a generous performer you are.

46:41 Right on.

46:41 On both sides of the camera.

46:43 When you're off camera, you're giving so much to where we get the best takes because of what you're giving us off camera.

46:48 Right on.

46:49 And we feel so lucky to... Act opposite you all the time.

46:52 Thank you for saying that.

46:53 Well, continue that in the rest of your career.

46:56 For sure.

46:56 Because you will find there's people that phone that shit in when they're off camera. And Donald and I don't play like that.

47:01 No, you guys don't.

47:02 It makes such a difference, though. It really does.

47:03 Of course it does. And in fact, you'll find there's times when you're off camera, you can be more helpful by improv-ing shit that isn't even in the script to help the person get there. If the director's just told them, I need you to be more upset, I need you to be more... Obviously, you work it out with the actors so they're not surprised by it, but you can help them sometimes by coming in hotter than you even did on your coverage because it will help them address the director's note.

47:30 Well, here's a perfect example of that. At one point in the scene, I say to you guys, we're doing a scene and I go, have you seen what Carla looks like? in humidity and you guys both nod. And I go, no, there's no way you could have seen that.

47:43 There's no way.

47:44 That's all off camera because I said it off camera to you guys. And then the head shake this way becomes.

47:49 That was funny.

47:50 You know what I mean?

47:51 But this is all us improv-ing and you know what I mean? And playing around.

47:55 So.

47:56 That was great.

47:56 My favorite scene of this episode. Really good scene. And this episode has several really great scenes. All right.

48:03 So Turk made a pact with JD a la The Notebook episode.

48:07 Didn't know it's from the notebook no that was funny or maybe he did and just got caught is.

48:17 It I have a confession to make What's up?

48:20 You've never seen the notebook?

48:20 I've never seen the notebook.

48:22 No way.

48:23 Oh, Zach, what?

48:24 I feel like you would love the notebook.

48:26 You would love the notebook. It's Zach Coded because I'm a sensi.

48:30 You're sensi.

48:30 I love romance.

48:31 You love romance.

48:32 I'm a sensi.

48:33 Yes.

48:33 I love those actors. You would lock into that story. Look, I'm clutching my pearls as we talk about it.

48:37 You're going to love it.

48:38 Zach.

48:39 If you love La La Land.

48:40 I do love La La Land.

48:41 You're going to love the notebook.

48:43 Is it like La La Land without music?

48:45 Okay.

48:46 Heartbreaking. I know the premise.

48:48 Yeah, absolutely.

48:49 Don't ruin what I already know.

48:51 Here's the thing. La La Land is one of my favorite movies of all time. So I cannot sit here and say that it is comparable. But I can say, When I first saw this movie, I was like, oh, my boy is out of here.

49:07 Oh, she is out of here. Like everybody in this thing crushes.

49:11 All right.

49:11 So good.

49:12 It's so funny. It's one of those movies. We all have movies in our lives where when they come up, you're like almost embarrassed to say it. I've never seen it.

49:21 Yo dude I was hanging out with homie when he was right when he was making that shit I know controversy on that stuff.

49:29 All right, well, we don't need to get into people's business.

49:31 We're not going to, but right watching that, we're not going to do that, but right watching that shit, it was like, wow, this is amazing.

49:39 Like, all of them.

49:40 Nick Cassavetti, I used to play ball with him. I couldn't believe he was that great of a director.

49:44 I didn't know that. You know what I mean? Like, there's so many things.

49:46 All right, I'll watch it.

49:47 Yeah, man. I'm so excited for you.

49:49 I'll watch it.

49:49 You're going to love it.

49:50 Maybe we'll watch it together.

49:51 Okay.

49:54 I really love the scene, another great scene in this episode with Tosh and Asher in the haunted room. I thought that's such a sweet scene. I laugh out loud with the harmonizing for beginners.

50:05 Oh, yeah.

50:06 And then that was Ava's idea, because we don't know that fucking lingo. Did we just low-key eat that down?

50:12 I don't know what that, I mean, I guess eat it all the way to the.

50:16 Like you ate that up, like you smashed that, you crushed that.

50:19 Basically in our age, we'd be like, did we just crush that?

50:22 Got it. Joelle, did you know the.

50:24 Term low-key eat it down?

50:26 Yes.

50:27 Joelle's very hip, guys.

50:30 She said I'm in black queer space. Oh, it's a black queer space thing.

50:36 Got it. Oh, Joelle, clock in.

50:41 Wow, okay.

50:42 She's like, that's a lot.

50:43 Too much.

50:46 Well, I thought that was sweet and funny. And for mega Scrubs fans, again, shouting out Roger Fires and the art department, they made that room the old style from the old hospital. If you look at the way the gear, the medical gear is on the wall, we used to have those plastic panels that were behind the beds in the old school hospital before we modernized to 2026 hospital.

51:11 So Roger totally recreated the the early two thousands look of a hospital room and, and just did an awesome job with that haunted room.

51:21 I really liked, we, we, we, I know, I know we pushed them both together. The, the two scenes that we did in the office, but in between that, we skip over a couple of things.

51:32 Go ahead.

51:33 Go ahead, girl.

51:34 There's a line in this, in this whole show that talks about the bonds that you can form when in a workspace, you know what I mean? And, uh, Sometimes they don't last that long, but they can last if certain things are in place. And the one thing that was in place for Deshauna and Amara was the fruit cups.

51:56 You know what I mean? And that is their bond.

51:59 They're so broke, just like it was Turk and JD's. They're so broke and have figured out a loophole that they could steal food from the cafeteria and they do it. And even when they're out at night or and even when Turk walks by, he realizes, oh, this is something more than that. These guys are roommates and they're kind of, you know, partners in this because, you know, in his eyes, I got to watch both of them. And if they're fighting and stuff like that, this is going to be one, a pain in the ass, but two, I see myself and JD in these two.

52:39 He sees the pep talk that he's due to give. Right. He's like, wait, I can't just walk out on these women. I got to tell them something they need to know.

52:47 Exactly.

52:48 And he steps back into it. And I just love that scene also. This is another great scene. And we said it already with the whole notebook shit, but it's another great scene. But anyway, the bonds that we form can last forever. And you say it in the thing, but it takes a lot of luck. There's a lot of luck that needs to be in it. and we see a lucky moment when he walks by the.

53:11 Fruit cups early on before you say that.

53:14 You know what I mean?

53:15 It's fucking phenomenal. It's really good storytelling and piecing things together.

53:20 Yes, I agree. And then we build to J.D. and Elliot walking down the hall. I laughed at scurrying down the pet stairs like this when I was sleeping at the edge of your bed.

53:34 And....

53:36 J.D., I think, thought that those were for him, the pet stairs at you and Carla's bed.

53:41 He didn't realize.

53:42 I don't think he knows they're for the dog.

53:45 Oh, I don't think I realized that they were for the dog either.

53:48 I didn't know we had a dog. Well, listen, he says, I slept at the foot of Turk and Carla's bed. And it was so nice. They had this little furry staircase that I could just crawl down and when I went to pee and then crawl back up when I was done.

54:01 But I thought she put that there for you.

54:04 No.

54:04 Have you ever seen these pet staircases? Oh, you haven't seen this. Have you guys seen this? Oh, so for people that have pets that can't jump onto a bed, they have these little furry like staircases they put next to their bed. And that's what it, JD took that down. He thought it was for him. I can't believe you've never seen that. I'll show you a picture of one.

54:22 I thought of it as something completely different.

54:25 What did you think it was?

54:25 I don't want to talk about it on the podcast because you're going to make Joelle cut it.

54:29 Oh, okay. Okay. I'm dying to know off mic what it was.

54:35 All right.

54:36 So they hook up. This was really funny. This was always our plan was to back into them making out and they've gotten drunk off the bottle of wine and they're macking in the hallway. Charlie and Sean.

54:45 Charlie and Sean.

54:46 And- Just camera-wise, we had to figure out how to have the depth of field right to be able to have them so far away and still in focus. So we cranked the lighting in there and we cranked the ISO on the camera, for those of you who are into cameras, so we could have that much up the field because the joke doesn't really work if you're not simultaneously seeing both J.D. and Elliot in the foreground and them in the background.

55:11 So how does that work?

55:12 Because this is a very interesting thing as somebody who likes to do... stop motion and filming and depth of field stuff. Turning up the light, more light, and turning down the aperture creates more depth.

55:30 The more closed down the aperture is, And the numbers go the opposite way. So when you say close down, you're going towards 11, 16, 22. Those are the higher numbers. The more depth of fields you're going to have. So on a bright, sunny day outside, if you want it, you can have insane depth of field. Sometimes people don't want it and they put these things in front of the camera that are called NDs, which are kind of like sunglasses basically for the camera. So it'll allow you to open up wider so you can have shallow depth of field if you want it. In a case like this where the joke is, isn't going to be funny if they're out of focus deep in the foreground. You're going to do two things. You're going to flood the

56:07 hallway with a lot of light, and then you can turn the sensitivity, the ISO of the camera up as well, and that'll allow you to get to a stop on the camera where you have a really long depth of field.

56:20 Last question without trying to bore the audience, but how does it stay in focus then if that's the case?

56:27 You know what I mean?

56:28 How does the foreground and the background... Because that's a matter of depth of field. Let's say I'm in an F-22, which is like the highest, the most closed down of the iris. You can have from two feet to infinity in focus.

56:43 Okay, I didn't know that. I'm not... Well, I'm giving you knowledge.

56:48 If you ever need to accomplish this in your stop motion, just come to me.

56:51 I do.

56:52 But for those of you into production, this is the kind of things you got to figure out. This is... This is the kind of thing you read the script and go, that's not going to be funny unless they're both in focus. How are we going to do that? And so it's something in pre-production you need to figure out with the DP and plan for it. I love the Tears for Fears song.

57:12 Everybody wants to rule the world.

57:16 And I really am so moved every time I see it of the moment that Tosh confesses that she's been lying and she does that little check to make sure that Asher's not there and confesses to Dubois that... He'll get there.

57:28 Well, I also like Michael James Scott's reading of saying to her, look, I know you made some mistakes in the past, but you're turning out to be one of the best doctors in this hospital.

57:40 And I can't say the same for him. Yeah.

57:43 And she's like, he'll get there.

57:45 And you kind of know.

57:48 Nah.

57:50 We don't know. Dun, dun, dun.

57:51 Dun, dun, dun. It's kind of like. That's the first tale of it.

57:56 I really love us all. The show always comes back to these three people we met 25 years ago who love each other, sitting in a booth at a bar. Two of them have just had something pretty devastating happen. But your friends can always make you laugh, right? Your friends can always sit around with you in a booth and say the right things and make you laugh. And I love that this show circles back in this episode to three people, who all got their own shit, but they're sitting there cracking each other up.

58:28 I love that too.

58:29 I also love that it's not so serious when it comes to early on in relationships, especially.

58:37 Well, they weren't neither one of those things. Those things had both just started. It wasn't like they were like affairs.

58:41 Exactly, but they're taking it so hard at the end of the show.

58:45 Well, JD had got a trip to the Bahamas. Non-refundable.

58:49 I'm going to put it out there. This goes all the way back to episode one when... Turk warned JD, you do this shit too much and it's going to come and bite you in the ass.

59:00 That was an episode. Oh, that was first of this season.

59:02 First of the season. And here it is, episode five.

59:05 And then we get to end with two cute things. Both Sean saying nobody cares. JD. And then you talk... Hey, guys, tell me how the fruit cups came about.

59:14 That was Michael Spiller.

59:16 Shout out.

59:17 He was our producing director of the show. And he was on set. And he... Go ahead. He had this idea?

59:21 Yeah, he had this idea.

59:22 We were sitting doing the scene. I think it was a different... ending I think it was it was just supposed to end with I love you yeah I think she says I love you for the first time and that was it yeah and then he somehow was like it would be so cute if you pulled out the fruit cups and the props department is incredible within like five minutes yeah they brought the fruit cups somehow that was so cute you.

59:43 Know what's funny is that she says we're gonna order the most expensive bottle of wine on the menu and I'm thinking of like This level of steakhouse, there's probably like a $ 25, 000 bottle of wine on the menu.

59:55 I don't think they're going to do that.

59:56 I think this is what I think. She's just like, I'm going to order some expensive wine, but I don't know about.

1:00:04 The most expensive.

1:00:04 She literally says to the waiter.

1:00:06 I totally understand that, but she knows.

1:00:08 You're saying the waiter's not going to bring them a 25K bottle.

1:00:11 No, I'm saying she knows better.

1:00:14 So you're saying after the camera cuts, the waiter or waitress is probably like, I don't think you want the most expensive. Do you want to look at the wine list?

1:00:24 No, I'm saying Deshauna's like, all right. No, we can't do that. I'm going to get yelled at.

1:00:30 That'll be my ass. Listen, we're going to order this. And at the end of the day, with the food cups, it's beautiful.

1:00:37 All right. Well, that's 205. Thank you, ladies, so much for joining us. I hope you had fun.

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