The Extra Point | Week 6 Fantasy Football Advice: Start/Sit Calls, Trade Targets & Players to Stash (Ep. 2272)

0:01 Welcome in, friends, to the Extra Point Podcast. Right here on Fantasy Pros, we are back. Yes, it is the Welsh, and it is the Undertaker, Andrew Erickson, where we were both gone last week. But you guys were pleasantly surprised, as I'm told, with our dear friend Scott Bogman. And I believe it was Terra. Was it Terra?

0:21 Terra, yes.

0:22 Terra time, baby. Holding down the fort, but I am back from LA. Erickson is back from the wedding central, the craziness and all the chaos, hanging with Christian McCaffrey at his old wedding spot. And we are here to answer questions for you. So we got a live studio audience and you guys can be a part of the fun, whether it is Erickson and I or it's Bogman and Terra or anybody. Come and join the Discord, fantasybros.com slash chat.

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1:04 Bam.

1:05 Bogs and Fitz, 5 p.m. Eastern, third Tuesday of every month. Then, of course, me and Erickson, 2 p.m. Eastern every week. Be a part of the extra point. Be a part of all of them. Come and get your questions answered and be on the show at fantasyprose.com slash chat. Doing a wedding... where Christian McCaffrey was, did not allow a Christian McCaffrey bet to cash, but you still had a great time though, Erickson.

1:28 Oh, immaculate time at my sister's wedding. My, one of my best friends from college, he got married the next day. It was a lot of driving, um, few alcoholic adult bevvies. But other than that, like it was a lot of fun, a lot of good food dancing.

1:43 I'm a monster on the dance floor.

1:46 Erickson, I can attest. Erickson is a straight G on the floor. I have videos on my phone. I got videos of Erickson riding a bull. I have videos of Erickson doing multiple spots of karaoke. I got like three different karaoke spots. And from our last New Orleans trip, you were cutting some rugs. You were rocking. You're a party man. You are a man of the party when it is going on. So I can only imagine how fun that was.

2:16 At my friend's wedding.

2:18 On Sunday morning, so his was on the Saturday, came up to me and I said, okay, congratulations.

2:23 Like, was it, was everything you wanted? He was like, it was perfect.

2:25 I was like, everything I wanted. And he was like, you're the life of the party, man. And I was like, that's all I needed to hear. I've done my job.

2:32 As one of the groomsmen, did my job.

2:34 And I am not, I'm definitely not the life of a party. I'm fun to talk to, but I am in no way the life of the party. But I am an instigator. I am a fun instigator. Like, I'm not necessarily the one that's going to be, like, the fun person. But I push the fun and I push people into the fun. So Eric's and I are a great combination. But bottom line, you want to hang out with the group of us. That's what you want.

2:57 Cornwallis is asking in the chat, what's your karaoke song? I'm a Rebel Yell guy. That is a good shout. For some reason, anytime I drive to weddings as well, I always, White Wedding will always play on the radio whenever I'm going from these weddings because it knows what's about to go down.

3:12 For me, my karaoke song, I think you know this Welsh, it's Mr.

3:15 Brightside.

3:16 Yeah, yeah.

3:16 I was about to say, because you did Mr. Brightside in Vegas and Tennessee.

3:22 I do it everywhere.

3:22 You do it everywhere.

3:23 But then when we were in New Orleans, I remember we went into this insane karaoke place and just Erickson just beelined it. for the karaoke like book to see if Mr. Brightside was there, but then it was too crowded. I have a new submission. I want us to do, especially if we ever do an event thing, I'm on a boat. That is what Erickson and I are going to be saying. Cause we did karaoke that together one time.

3:46 So that'll be ours. We will do the lonely Island some point, but I know some of you guys are having a panic attack right now. It's not just about karaoke and parties and fun. It's about the NFL. By the way, Not only do we have our audience here, we're going to answer questions. We just got breaking news before we jumped into this podcast. It actually happened, I don't know, four minutes after we did the tailgate. Jalen Hurts is going to be inactive for this week's game.

4:11 We knew there was like some injury going on, but it looks like it's like a blood clot issue. He will not be playing. So my tailgate prediction of the Panthers are going to beat the Eagles. It looks a lot more stupid now because I think the lines have flipped. a bit, but no Jalen hurts this week.

4:28 Yeah. The betting lines open earlier in the week. Cause I do the look ahead show with worm on Mondays. Those lines were the Panthers were catching like two and a half points playing on the road against the Philadelphia Eagles. And now it is the Eagles are three point underdogs at home. And it's going to be Tanner McKee. I assume that's under center because Andy Dalton got cut from the Eagles after He threw that interception when he came in for one play. So I believe that's the current way that the roster is set up. Again, we'll get more news about who he's actually starting, but I believe it's going to be Tanner McKee, who the Eagles were really high on at one point. So we'll see, but it's just a tough spot for Philly overall with their offense.

5:07 They are coming off a back-breaking loss to the Jaguars in London. They had no bye week in between, so they had to play internationally, had to fly back to Philadelphia, and they're going to be welcoming a red-hot Carolina Panthers offense that It's coming off a bi-week. Like we saw this last week with the Colts and Steelers Colts played internationally.

5:29 They came back and no bi-week and the Steelers took care of business and they were coming off extended rest because they had played on the Thursday night before. So the rest advantage is definitely in the Panther side here. The vibes are with the Panther side of here. So naturally the Eagles are going to win by 15 points because that's just how this works. Yep. I mean, the Eagles are at home. Like that is the one thing that's kind of working in their favor. But I mean, if they start out crappy, those fans, man.

5:51 Oh, batteries and bricks.

5:53 They're going to find whatever they can and throw it on the field. So this could, again, with the Eagles, a lot of times it feels like when it rains, it pours. And it feels like torrential downpour is going to be happening.

6:07 Doesn't it feel like this? It's going to be like a Damien Pierce. Like it's going to be all these nomad players that are going to die. We're like, well, the Panthers.

6:15 It'd be one thing too.

6:17 If you at least had Smith and you had Barkley, like maybe that would give, but like those guys look like they're not even going to play. So like you missing your, your, your star three players at the, quarterback, running back, receiver position.

6:29 Those guys are all out, right?

6:31 You'd have to expect like Jalen Carter would have to have again, another game like he did last week where he was a dominant force for the Eagles defense, but Eagles defense overall has been kind of been overrated this season. So yeah, it's a, it's a tough scene for Eagles fans. I got to check on Mike Mayer and see how we're doing.

6:46 Yeah.

6:47 I said we were going to move on from it, but now I have to pose this question and this is great because you guys, if you listen like Spotify, you can leave comments. Which NFL player would you want to do karaoke with? Who do you think is the best to do karaoke? I already have the answer, and I think there's one clear answer. One obviously clear, great answer.

7:07 Who do you think the best NFL player to do karaoke with is?

7:12 Currently in the NFL?

7:13 In the NFL.

7:14 Okay.

7:15 Because my mind immediately gravitated towards Gronk, but I know he's retired.

7:20 He would definitely be fun because he'd be really bad. But no, current NFL player.

7:24 He'd be really bad.

7:25 I don't know.

7:26 I must be missing this. You sound like it's so obvious. It is so obvious.

7:31 Someone put in here, Meat Slim put in Kittle. That's a great one. That's a really good one. I think Kittle would be fantastic. Cornwall has said Keenan Allen is a good singer, but the very first comment from paragraphs here, Jameis Winston. There is zero doubt in my mind that you wouldn't have the biggest banger. I've got to be honest with you. An Andrew Erickson, Jameis Winston... uh, karaoke collab is the final pinnacle of what I need in my life. That might be retirement. I need that in my life. If you guys got to get a better pairing, please let me know. I know it's not fancy talk, but boy, do I get excited about it. If you think of another one, Erickson, you can let us know, but Jameis Winston, I think is the number one.

8:13 All right.

8:13 Uh, we got an audience that is waiting. We have held them back here for a little bit, talking karaoke parties and a little bit of Jalen hurts. You guys got questions that have nothing to do with Thursday night football, right?

8:22 All right.

8:23 Perfect. then let's answer them and let's get our boy Nick up here. Nick, what's up, man? Hey, guys.

8:29 Appreciate you guys as always. I'm going to shoot over my team. Kind of curious where your thoughts are on this whole Eagles situation. Obviously, super unknown. I don't know what kind of a quarterback Tanner McKee is, but my context specifically, I had scooped Goddard off of waivers. He kind of slipped through. And I have three tight ends on the roster. That's obviously a ton. But with buys and everything, I had been planning on flexing Goddard and Juwan Johnson as tight end and flex. I'm curious now, given the murkiness with Philly, would you drop Goddard for a Jeremy Bernard, who for some reason is still on waivers?

9:13 Given the team, is there anyone else you'd rather drop to maybe make that move? I don't know if you're still confident starting Goddard because I don't know if McKee is going to hyper target him like like our current quarterback there does. But it's kind of curious what you guys think there.

9:29 Nick is an Eagles fan, too. Sorry, Nick. I heard I heard the I heard the Philly come out right in that last thing. And then also he said our quarterback. my assumption, by the way, Jeremy Bernard out there is insane, but Erickson, you were going to speak, but my assumption is like always backup quarterback safety nets, it's checkoffs and guys like Goddard are the safety blanket. I kind of love Goddard in this spot.

9:49 Yeah.

9:50 I don't think it like changes it too dramatically. Obviously invites a little bit more ambiguity. Whenever you change quarterbacks, there's always some chance of variance, but he's still going to see volume in the game. We know that Devonta Smith's probably not going to play and there's no Saquon Barkley.

10:06 So by default, Dallas Carter becomes like the number one read. So I don't think that this really changes. Obviously the offense was already broken with Jalen hurts in it. So Tanner McKee being the quarterback again, obviously you feel less confident about all these guys and maybe the touchdown equity obviously goes down a little bit, but I mean, you also have Loveland on your roster. So if you want to roll the dice with Loveland with Caleb Williams back, maybe there's more upside there, but I still think Goddard has a floor as a flex play. So yeah, I didn't move him that much in my weekly rank. I mean, I had him higher before, but I still, he's still like in tight end one territory just because he should

10:43 still double digit target still.

10:45 And it's still tight end.

10:46 I want Jeremy Bernard, though. And he has Jawan Johnson, Colson, Loveland, and Goddard. You can't, like, have the three tight ends.

10:54 I mean, did he say he picked up Goddard?

10:57 He picked up Goddard while having Jawan Johnson in them. Could you do Jawan Johnson?

11:01 I mean, why don't you just drop Goddard?

11:04 But don't you want to start?

11:06 You don't know how long he's.

11:07 Going to be out there. But of the three tight ends, who do you want to start this week? In Loveland, Jawan Johnson.

11:12 Or Goddard?

11:12 Well, he's starting Jawan. He only has to start one.

11:15 I know, I know, I know, but I'm saying, do you want to start Jawan Johnson over Goddard?

11:19 Yes. Okay.

11:20 Yeah, I mean, against the Giants, yeah. I mean, Jawan Johnson's the more.

11:23 Then from a flex, do you want Goddard or Jeremy Bernard?

11:29 I'm thinking, like, I think it's probably pretty close, but given the deem for Bernard.

11:36 Also, I'm thinking, like, long-term, too, right?

11:38 Yeah, sure.

11:39 Dallas Goddard's value's not going to improve because Devonta Smith is going to come back, The schedule is really easy for the Eagles upcoming because I mentioned Dallas Carter as like a buy on the trade show. But that was also in the context that Jalen Hurts was still going to be the quarterback of the team, which is obviously not not the case here so far. So, I mean, do you think someone's going to pick up Goddard after he gets dropped?

12:02 Maybe.

12:02 Here's a side note. He has two defenses. He has one on the bench. You just drop a defense and go pick up Bernard. It's the Steelers. He has Steelers and Chiefs.

12:11 Oh, yeah.

12:11 Drop a defense.

12:12 Pick up Bernard.

12:12 I drop the Steelers and go get Bernard. And then, I mean, you're still in like a little conundrum here. Maybe start Bernard over Goddard. But if Goddard is the safety net, I would pick that.

12:22 It's a good question.

12:22 It's a great question. I'm glad first one of those around the Eagles. It's kind of a tough one.

12:27 I mean, I think I would add Bernard regardless. Because he's someone that's going to accrue value, I think. So I think I would do that anyway.

12:33 Well, you said it the right way. Like the long-term. The long-term thing is kind of focusing.

12:37 Because the thing with Goddard is the matchups are good. Cause he's going to have the Cowboys. He's going to have the commanders. Now it's just a matter of what's the quarterback play like. And I think I agree with you where I don't think we're going to see his volume evaporate with Tanner McKee to like security blanket. And yeah. Yeah.

12:57 Yeah.

12:57 I mean, it might be. Six catches for 45 yards, but he should still be a touchdown equity and stuff. And we also don't know the status of Smith and Barkley.

13:06 Yeah, I don't think I want to– don't drop Goddard, I would say.

13:10 I want to make sure I was clear with that. I thought about it, but, yeah, I would keep him, yeah.

13:13 All right, Cornwallis. Cornwallis, you had the nice comment in the comment section of this show on Discord, too, where you were like, pleasant surprise from Bogman and Terrace. So thank you for being here and supporting our homies.

13:24 Oh, yeah, no problem. What up?

13:26 Um, so we're looking at, um, two questions at tight end, either Friar move or strange and PPR. And then at the flex, I could either flex the other tight end.

13:42 Um, let's see.

13:43 Damian Pierce, Makai lemon, uh, Trey Tucker or Kendrick Bourne.

13:51 Okay.

13:51 Uh, let's start with the tight end then stranger Friar move.

13:56 Strange.

13:57 I'm super close on that little touchdown equity for Fryermuth, but I'm totally fine with strange on the flex. I actually love Kendrick Bourne this week. I love Kendrick Bourne. Trey Tucker might be the play, but I'm going to say Kendrick Bourne as my flex spot there. I don't care about the Eagles guy. I mean, if, if Barkley's out, you could justify Damian Pierce, but also like Pierce might be 12 carries for 28 yards.

14:20 I mean, the Panthers run defense is pretty bad.

14:23 Yeah. Like, And if you're down to a backup court, I mean, you can spin the narrative, right, where you can be, oh, they'll crowd the box.

14:29 Like, oh, well, he might get 30 carries. Yeah, I mean, backup court back in.

14:33 Yeah, that's true. And they could throw the ball out of the backfield a bunch. If Barkley's out, Pierce has the most volume potential. If let's say Barkley's in, though, which who are you picking? Trey Tucker, Makai Lemon, Kendrick Bourne.

14:46 I don't want to. I would not play Lemon. I'm not. I think that I play Trey Tucker. Bill's defense is horrible.

14:53 I think they are going to shut down Michael Wilson, all the coverages there, and Kendrick Bourne down the middle for seven catches. So I like Kendrick Bourne on that one. That's a fun question. Catalyst, what's up, dude?

15:05 Hey, guys.

15:06 Thanks for being on the show.

15:07 Appreciate the love for karaoke. You know, I'm someone that tries my best not to ever do the same song twice in a lifetime just because I want to be as creative as possible when it comes to doing it.

15:18 Okay, that's good. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't be comfortable with that because I'd have to know what I'm good with. But you know what happens to me? I lose my voice really bad when I get in this setting. So it's like, I die down. I die down. And I'm also like, I'm kind of like, I want to like rap and stuff. I want to get in there. But you know, Erickson's bright side. I appreciate you. And you know, next Fantasy Pros trip, come out and karaoke with us, Catalyst.

15:40 All right, I'll try my best.

15:42 What do you got?

15:43 So I wanted to talk about my Rebuilding Dynasty team. I'm trying my best to sell Ollie Gordon, but right now I'm only having like one person who's who's interested in, but I'm just afraid of like not getting enough value off it. Um, would you agree though that the, that, um, he's probably like a late, uh, round two, uh, value, uh, for like the, for the next pick this year.

16:07 Yeah.

16:08 Like, uh, I think that's like a late second round pick for 2027. If you were trading Ollie Gordon.

16:14 Yeah, it's because I'm trying to get at least a second, or just at the very most a second. He's so far pitching me an idea as far as Malik Washington and his late third.

16:25 Yeah, I mean, and that team is obviously a competitor, right? Somewhat.

16:32 It's kind of hard to tell with how he's approaching it, but he does have a lot of value as far as a competitor does.

16:37 Okay, well, because I was going to say, I definitely think a high-end winning team is going to try to talk you down I think I would play hardball because Ollie Gordon's value to next year is little to none. So the value is to a team that is competing now that has a running back for the rest of the season, an RB1, and then you've got a dreamscape that maybe the Dolphins trade him or something like that.

17:00 But it's really all about this year. I think it's fair to be like, hey... An RB2 for the entirety of this season should cost you a second-round Dynasty pick, but I understand why they would ask for a third. Erickson, what do you think about that logic? Do you think that's too much wish-casting to get a second-round pick for a guy like Ali Gordon?

17:19 No, I don't think so.

17:20 I think based on the projection of his production for the rest of the season, again, he should see a decent amount of volume. He's kind of earned his way as the RB1. He's a late-round draft pick, so that's always something that you have to be cognizant of where... how much equity does this team really have in him, especially because he's a holdover from the previous regime. But it seems like he has won over the coaching staff at least a little bit, which we don't expect any, like, big firings from this coaching staff. So I think second round is probably what you'd actually want. I think maybe just, like, dumb for a third. It's like, I mean, I feel like you're just kind of, like, resetting the board again.

17:56 When at least he's shown, like, this guy can at least play, like, in the NFL. Um, and I mean, he could be, I mean, the best case scenario is he opens next year as the backup to HN, right. Who the team is already invested in, given that they gave him a contract and HN is coming off a season ending injury. So I, I, yeah, again, like I know when you're trying to rebuild, you're trying to dump off pieces, but like, you got to get the value, right.

18:18 Don't just be like, well, I'm rebuilding. So I just want draft picks. Like, I don't care what I sell. I think that's almost taking the easy way out. It's like, no, like make sure you're getting actual value. Cause if the value is not there, like, go tell them to pound like yeah pound rocks or pound rocks pound sand pound everything kick kick sand pound rocks yeah.

18:37 And pound pound bread but like play hardball don't be afraid to play hard because oh what what did what did you miss if you don't make the trade catalyst oh you didn't get a third round pick in the 2020 big deal like may i at that point i would rather the opportunity something happens where a team trades for Ollie Gordon and he gets a better opportunity or something like that. You should play hardball and try to get that second round pick. It's more than fair to ask for. Was that your, that was your, was that it on dynasty?

19:03 Yeah, that was it.

19:03 You know, it's tough because it's like, he's one of the handful of people that actually responds like when it comes to traits.

19:09 Sure.

19:09 But you know, don't, I have man, That's been one of the biggest things I think that is a crutch. I'm not saying this is a crutch for you, but in Dynasty and Keepers, and I get it, where it's like, well, my league doesn't really trade. This is all that's out there. And then people do it because it's like, well, this is it. But that's coming back to that hardball thing.

19:27 He's in the same situation, by the way. If there's only a handful of people that are responding, then he can't really improve his team a whole lot if people aren't as well. So you should use that to your advantage. And I think a second round pick is more than fair. I mean, it'd be dope if you can get Malik Washington in a second round, but even a second round swap straight up if you're not competing is uh easy stuff that is what i would do good dynasty talk there also want to talk to you guys about our friends over at polymarket it's a stock exchange for sports where you can buy in and sell out on your own terms when your team goes down to 20 you can buy in and sell it off at 40 when they come back and now you doubled your money They're

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20:37 Up joe hey what's up guys how you doing we're doing good dude how you doing doing good i'm in a half point ppr league that i'm currently five and oh and i have a start and sit question for tight end and flex and then a keeper cut question let's do it all right uh tight end do i start juwan johnson or tucker craft oh.

20:56 Tucker craft oh okay i thought you were gonna say juwan johnson erickson that's good okay you guys both said tucker craft yeah but we're both tucker craft here then what was the dynasty Well, it's not Dynasty.

21:06 It's still the half-point PPR. I'm just wondering, like, I have Zach Charbonnet sitting in my IR, and I don't know, like, because I'm 5-0, if I should just keep him there or if I should drop him, switch somebody else out for the IR position and pick up, like, a handcuff like Emmitt Johnson from the Chiefs.

21:21 I would just keep Charbonnet because he's going to get activated after next week.

21:25 I mean, and, dude, they were, like, trying to go get Joe Mixon. They're trying to get anybody to get out there. I don't know, though. Emmitt Johnson, though. I will point this out. If you have Emmett Johnson on your wire, if there's a time to pick up Emmett Johnson, it's right now coming off the buy just to see what's the plan. Do they want to implement him? Obviously, his value is based around Ken Walker getting hurt, but could there be a little bit more? But I think it's tough in that scenario to not want to have Charbonnet moving forward when Jadarian Price is banged up and they're trying to bring everybody in. So that's where I would go with that. Scott, what up?

22:02 Hey, how's it going, guys? So I have a question around running back. I have Roman Wilson on my bench, and I'm pretty good at receiver. I got Nicole Collins, Parker Washington, Jalen Coker, Ladd McConkie, and it's pretty deep league. But I also have a bunch of really backup running backs. Do I go get Najee Harris or Corey Kiner?

22:29 I don't know.

22:31 Yeah, he's hurt. Drop him.

22:33 Pick up Najee.

22:34 Easy.

22:35 You're cool with Najee easy, not Kiner? I mean, not that Kiner's anybody, but.

22:39 I mean, maybe I'm underselling Corey Kiner.

22:41 I just don't think Najee's anything. You were like, okay.

22:43 I mean, Najee gets... I mean, Seth talked about it on the Betting Pro Show. I mean, Najee gets goal-in opportunities. Like, Kiner does not... I mean, I'm expecting full-blown workload. They've at least used Najee enough times where it's like he can kind of be annoying to Cam Scadaboo.

22:59 Now.

22:59 Does that help boost his own value? Like, not really.

23:01 But Skadaboo, if he goes down, is Najee not the next guy up? Because Singletary's been inactive, like, the last couple games. So I know in a deep league with me and Fitzy, we have Najee on the bench. Like, it's a 16-team league, and I would rather have Najee than Roman Wilson.

23:18 Do you notice yourself, your teams are better defensively? when you share it with like a like-minded, it's a little different, I guess, cause we like work in the industry and stuff, but like when you share a team with someone invested like you, do you notice your teams are better or worse than when.

23:33 It is you?

23:35 Just you.

23:36 Cause I, I don't know if I do, I do one with Bogman and every single year, like, we're bangers like me and him and we fight about it and we argue and like, we have to have Trump cards on like, well, I get this person and all right, now you get this person. Like we, but every single year, like in the super flex pentathlon we do, which is against, you know, Fitzy and, um, Scott Pianowski and there's industry people across the board. We bang those leagues. So when we draft together, I've noticed I actually like my teams are almost better when I have that type of cross canceling and I don't get too hyper-focused on my guys, but I know that's not the case for everybody.

24:10 Honestly, I could go either way.

24:12 I have good teams that I draft myself and that I share with others, and I have bad teams like the same.

24:18 What a lame answer. I'm just being honest.

24:21 Just taking it one day at a time, just trying.

24:23 To be better every day.

24:24 The one team I have with Fitz has been Bunz.

24:27 We won our first game finally for the first time last week. We were 0-4, but we had so many injuries. So guys are getting healthy, which is good.

24:36 Not the answer. You gave the like, the, the NFL player, you know, one day at a time, just trying.

24:43 To be happy to be here. Just want to get better.

24:45 Like Efton Chisholm after he caught that touchdown over Chauncey Carter Johnson.

24:48 It's like, Oh, great guy. We'll still play him again next in a couple of weeks.

24:52 Come on. Say something good.

24:54 Bucks, man.

24:54 What up?

24:55 How's it going fellas?

24:56 Can you hear me? We got you good, man. What do you got? I got two questions.

25:00 Uh, first one is in a standard league. I need you guys to pick two for me between, uh, federal McMillan, uh, poker roma dunze and jeremy bernard.

25:12 By the panthers yeah i think both i hate saying it but both panthers yeah.

25:16 If they combine for 30 points don't care i got there yeah i should be happy to play.

25:20 Them both and eagles might be turning that offense over even more so uh panthers guys what's question number two.

25:26 Uh okay uh second question this was in the half ppr league uh need to choose one between jeremy bernard joan johnson and chris got one.

25:36 Ooh, thanks, Bucks, man. We kind of had that with Bernard and Jawan Johnson with the other guy at Flex. I am leaning Jeremy Bernard just because I think Aaron Rodgers is like a good spot starter this week, and he loves Bernard. So I'm going to go with Bernard.

25:52 I will go with Jawan.

25:54 You love using Jawan. I'm going to touch on that.

25:57 I just like Jawan.

25:58 The sample size with him and Tyler Shuck is much, much larger than it is with. I mean, again, we talked about the rank shot. Jeremy Bernard runs one wrong route, Shadow Realm. Never gets another target again.

26:13 I do like it. All I think about when you say that, too, is it's like in Thunderbolts with, now I'm forgetting, Bob or whatever, when he turns into Century or the Void. And I don't know if you know any of this is all Marvel bullcrap, but he just stands there. Like you drop a pass, Aaron Roger turns into the void and then he just shadows people and he just shadows that wide receiver. There's definitely a meme for that somewhere. That's probably not worth it, but that's what I think of. Cause I'm a nerd. I'm a Marvel nerd. Um, rain, man, what's up rain, man.

26:45 What's going on again, gents have a, I have a bit of a random one, and mainly, I guess, towards you, Erickson, because of the Patriots affiliation. But late Tuesday night, and I'm not sure how many people even caught it because then waivers ran and there was a ton of them this week for some reason.

26:59 But the guy that had Henderson dropped him. And I guess I'm looking for your guys' thoughts. Because of his production year to date, I don't know if it's worth blowing a whole bunch of fab on him. But now he's practicing. I just saw like 10 minutes ago he's on the field today, full pads. And so... Right now I have Mnangai as my third running back with Cook and Walker. He's likely not playing this week. And so I'm actually trying to roll with Kendra Miller this week and next week with Cook off. Do you think Henderson's worth trying to blow some money on and whatever? I'm trying to make heads from tails with that situation. And, you know, end of season, sure, especially if Mondry gets banged up, but is he better off than even Miller

27:43 or something, even if he plays this week?

27:45 Yeah, he's totally one of those guys where it's just like, how long are we going to be hoisting me into the universe? The end of time when we're like, he's just, he's going to do it someday. He's just so talented. And it just, it doesn't happen. The breakout never happens, but it's hard to deny. But I mean, Erickson, you were at the forefront of it this year when everyone was like, brother, year two, Travian Henderson, it's a time.

28:05 And you were pounding the table, just like the Jersey in the back there that reminder Stevenson's not going anywhere. But I think it would be hard pressed to not make a move to pick them up. especially if it's, you know, short-term injury, you don't have like a strong RB camp if something happens with Ramondre, but I don't know if the promises are good for him long-term. I mean, I would rather probably him than Kendrick Miller, but Kendrick Miller probably has more short-term value. What do you think about picking up Travion?

28:35 I would rather have Travion than Kendrick Miller, rest of season, right? I get that Kendrick has the more short-term appeal, but It is very, very short-term. And when people ask me these certain types of deals, it's like, who do you rather have rest of the season, Henderson or Kendrick Miller?

28:51 I don't think it's particularly close.

28:54 So I get that the short-term appeal for Miller is, oh, he's facing the Giants, it's a good matchup, but dude, he could totally air ball, right? That would not surprise me for an offense that can't run the football whatsoever. So if Kendrick is the only expendable piece, because I'm not dropping Menunga, even though he's banged up, And if I got to flex Henderson, I mean, the fact that he has gone from a possible IR candidate with a high ankle sprain to limited yesterday on Wednesday and then putting on the full pads on there. I mean, what kind of high ankle sprain was this? I don't know. So, yeah, I don't know if there's anything else you have to add.

29:36 I mean, if you gotta drop Kendra you gotta.

29:38 Do it he said it beautifully not all of it the frustration the chaos of it Travion.

29:43 He's like why couldn't AJ Brown have this high ankle.

29:45 Sprain no kidding right they're like it's gonna be a month nope he's back next week he's Superman I yeah I don't know Travion is trending in like the worst direction you can trend but he's just also super talented and You just don't have a robust backfield. Like those are the type of guys you bet on. You want to bet on those type of players. Now, if the question was centered around, would you cut Kendrick Miller for Henderson?

30:08 That makes it, cause I don't know if you caught, he has to start Miller like next week. So like if knowing that, would you be comfortable dropping a Kendrick Miller knowing he has to be a starter next week for Travion?

30:22 Who are the Saints playing next week? Cause I think that the Saints backfield could flip is Camara going to be that little involved for two weeks, two weeks in a row. And then HN is going to come back. Like, that's the thing.

30:33 Like there's so many other factors at play with Miller.

30:38 But I guess, sorry. Well, I guess my point was going to be like, that's fine. Like whoever they're playing the Steelers, but if Travion is not active and you have nobody, like it's, it's a matter of getting a zero to speculate on Henderson or put, can you get what I'm saying? Like, do you feel confident enough that because, He's back in pads and stuff. He'll be back out next week. And you would just rather him no matter what, or know that you got to get your value.

31:02 If a trade came in and I had Kendrick Miller and someone's like, I'll give you treatment, Henderson. I'm taking that a hundred, a hundred times. I don't even care about. And then I'll, if I got to take a zero on one of my slots, so be it. I'm not going to give up that type of value when it's clear in my mind, which player you'd rather have.

31:20 And there's a chance. I mean, if Henderson's practicing full on Thursday, I'm pretty sure he's going to play.

31:24 Yeah.

31:24 So, And then if he doesn't have any relapses, he'll probably be more healthy next week when the Patriots play, ding, ding, ding, the Chicago Bears.

31:34 Pretty good matchup.

31:35 Pretty good.

31:37 Pretty good.

31:37 We'll take that. All right, good one. Lando, premium member of the Fantasy Pros Discord. We were just lockstep there. That was perfect. Lando, hello?

31:47 Pretty good.

31:47 Can you guys hear me?

31:48 Yeah, we got you, man.

31:49 Yep. Right on.

31:51 Thanks, fellas.

31:51 Yeah.

31:53 All right.

31:53 So I'm pretty deep on wide receiver in my super flex league.

31:57 QBs are pretty weak, though.

32:00 Was thinking about trading away Garrett Wilson and Bo Nix for Chase Brown and CJ Stroud.

32:06 Any thoughts?

32:07 Wait, who's the first player?

32:09 Garrett Wilson and Bo Nix for CJ Stroud and Chase Brown.

32:14 Okay.

32:14 So I guess, do we have to have a chase Brown conversation? And then they, they even said they had to reevaluate by the way. Thank you for the question. They to reevaluate or they're always evaluating the running back situation. Like I like, I gotta be honest with you. I think I might like Stroud over Knicks moving forward, but Garrett, well, okay.

32:31 You're with me on that, but.

32:32 Yeah, I think it's a need thing. I think they're in the same tier ballpark. Obviously chase Brown has been underwhelming. I'm not concerned about, are we going to do this Samaj AP Ryan thing? I mean, This guy's been in the league for how long? I'm just not convinced that this is like, oh, a major shakeup of the backfield. P.

32:52 Ryan has his role. He played well against the Miami Dolphins. Chase Brown fumbled, you know, maybe got a little bit of the doghouse. And I think he'll bounce back. So I think the team still believes a lot, has a high comp. I think Chase Brown's are screaming by low right now for teams that need running backs. He's on the bye week coming off a bad game where P.

33:09 Ryan outproduced him. Chase Brown has outproduced P Ryan in 20 other previous games.

33:14 Like, so I don't like the comments about it. I want them to be super. I wanted them to be dismissive and be like, yeah, don't worry about it. You know, some guys, sometimes P Ryan has a good game. Not like we're always evaluating the running back spot. Like what?

33:28 Oh, I mean, I think it's like, Hey, Chase Brown play better. I mean, like he hasn't like been fantastic to start the year. He's got to improve. I mean, this happened last year too, came out the gates a little bit sluggish. I know Joe Burrow missed some time, but, I'm still believing Chase Brown. I still believe in the talent.

33:42 Team can run the ball and this offense should get cooking. So I think you see a fired up Chase Brown out of the bye week. And I think that for running back needy teams, I think this is a good move to make.

33:54 So I like it.

33:55 When he said, too, he needed the quarterback and the running back and he was deep at wide outside. I think that's like a no brainer. So, yeah, you in a good spot. Jay Daddy.

34:03 How's it going, guys?

34:04 How you doing?

34:05 Good.

34:05 How you doing?

34:06 Good.

34:07 Cool question.

34:08 So I'm trying to figure out my flex right now in my league. So I have Bucky Irving, Armandre Stevenson, and I also have this week, let me just check really quick to verify with you, and I have JCM. I'm trying to figure out if I should start one of those in my flex and if I should cut Kenneth Gainwell for a waiver wire.

34:33 What would be the waiver wire?

34:34 Yeah.

34:36 I'm thinking about either like Holani from Seattle. No.

34:42 Or Vidal.

34:47 No.

34:48 I mean, the Chargers are going on bye next week, so you're going to cut Vidal.

34:52 Yeah, once they fire McDaniel and then they try to get him.

34:54 Unless he sees like an 80% snap share this week, which it's probably just going to be a three-man committee.

34:59 I mean, you got Bucky, you got Gainwell.

35:00 Like, I don't know.

35:01 I think that that's fine. I'm not over the moon with those other guys, so.

35:05 I don't care about dropping gain loan for Vidal, but I just don't, I think it's like lateral. And, and, and if we're being honest, if the chargers, you know, once they lose and they're winless and they fire McDaniel and they reassess the offense, like what is the thing they could have to reassess? We've got to get Hampton involved. Like, why was he not involved? So I don't know if Vidal is good.

35:25 He doesn't fit the scheme. Like he, the scheme is not, Maybe Hampton will be a buy low.

35:30 Maybe it's a buy low, yeah, 100%.

35:32 We might just be there where the price is just so down bad that you got to buy back in.

35:39 On the other question of flex, I mean, if Travion is not active, you got to be Remondre over Bucky.

35:49 I mean, Bucky's matchup is much tougher this week.

35:52 No, I know, but Bucky.

35:53 I'm still going Remondre.

35:55 Even if Travion was active?

35:57 Yeah. Oh, no.

35:58 I mean, I'm Bucky over him. But remand Ray.

36:00 If there's still against the Steelers.

36:03 Yeah.

36:03 Why?

36:03 Why?

36:04 Why Bucky over? I don't know.

36:05 I mean, equity perceptions. He catches the ball out of the backfield.

36:08 Like they sort of see if he catches the ball.

36:11 Who's going to score more points, the Patriots or the Bucks?

36:13 Fair with potential.

36:14 I mean, I think it's still Stevenson.

36:16 Yeah.

36:17 I mean, they're relatively close.

36:18 I mean, it's going to be tough because Stevenson gets the boost because the Henderson is Wesley's presumed not to play at all.

36:24 And the rank is representative because Jay Daddy pointed out the fantasy pros rank. Appreciate you doing that. That's easy for my job. RB10 and Bucky's at 14 right now. If Travion was active, I think people are going to move down to Ramondre. Ramondre without Henderson, that's just the easy answer. That's the answer. You and I are split if Henderson were to play and be totally good. I can't imagine he is, so really we don't even have to argue about it. It's Henderson, but I'm okay with Bucky even though it's not the best matchup just because What do they do with Bucky? They'll just start middle dump passing. Like Gainwell does not make Bucky disappear from the passing game, but your point is valid in that.

37:01 Like if the Patriots are rolling, you know, reminders opportunities are going to be there.

37:05 So, so that's, I mean, again, it's close, but it's a good question. It's a good question.

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38:48 Hey, sorry about that. I've had technical difficulties. Um, so hurting at running back this week with buys and injuries. Um, I picked up Damian Pierce. So if Barkley doesn't play, which I don't think he's supposed to be, but if he doesn't, I assume he gets put in. But if not, my options are Kamani Vidal, Emmitt Johnson, and Justice Hill, which I don't like any of those. So just trying to see what you guys are looking at.

39:12 Yeah, I think even more now with Hurts not out, it feels like they got to just be like, everybody take a week off. You know, like, what are we going for here? If Barkley's active, you still want to play Pierce? Because I think I'm Emmett Johnson.

39:27 Oh, no, you can't.

39:28 No, Pierce is a... I mean, he's like... he'll be like RB 60 for me if Barkley's playing.

39:32 Okay but then so then if Barkley is active would you Emmett off of the bye.

39:38 Yeah I like Emmett I think this could be interesting spot for him to get more involved I think Vidal probably has the most like proof of concept because his equity has gone up the last couple of weeks, but it's just really hard when it's a three-way committee and you really have no, like, what would you set the under over at Vidal's touches?

39:57 I mean, but it's like different. I know it's a great point. It's different every week. It was like Keith Mitchell, then it's Vidal.

40:01 And it's like game script dependent. It's, is it targets?

40:06 Is it catches?

40:06 8.5.

40:07 And it feels like he is, maybe he's like the best rusher of the three, but that gives him the least amount of fantasy value because he has to score a long touchdown because red zone still goes to Hampton and, targets and receptions go to Mitchell and then Vidal gets carries inside the twenties. So even if he's like the quote unquote best fit in the system, it's not necessarily translating.

40:28 I mean, obviously he scored the last two weeks, I believe. Um, but that's just like, it's also the chiefs on the road. That's like not a great matchup. Whereas Emma Johnson on the other side of that game. Um, I think, I think Emma Johnson would probably be the play for me.

40:41 I think so. All right, let's do a little bit of lightning round. We got a nice little cue here. We got a little bit more time. So let's get some of those questions in. Mowgli, what's up?

40:50 Hey guys, what's going on? A couple of quick questions with Hertz out. I had Goddard. Would I be better off going with Higby?

40:59 No, we talked about this a little bit earlier. Yeah, we both like Goddard. It's safety net option for a backup quarterback. It's not great. I get why you'd want to go Higby, but I'm going to go Goddard still.

41:09 I guess like for me, it's like, what's Goddard's trajectory really going to change? The volume is still probably going to be similar with Hertz. The offense was already bad, right? Like, I guess it could just get even worse, but how much more worse is, I mean, what's.

41:25 The margin tags and the, and you thought like, Oh, there'll be nothing offensively. I'd be a little bit more worried. It's a Panthers. I think that there could be something that this defense is not good.

41:34 Yeah.

41:35 So, yeah.

41:36 Okay.

41:36 And the second one, I've managed to skip my way to a five and a record and I got A.J. Brown coming off, and I've got Olave and Zay as my one and two. So I don't really need A.J. Brown to eventually turn into anything more than a wide receiver three. But the tight end spot has always been sitting there. And being 5-0, Brock Bowers is on a 1-4 team. And I'm trying to figure out how much to give for a guy like Bowers. I mean, with A.J. Brown, I've managed to get to 5-0 without him. is it worth giving him up and another piece or how valuable is Bowers at this point?

42:18 I think the only thing you could justify to a one in four team to do anything and move off is they got to get multiple pieces. A one in four team should have no interest in one for one pieces. Why they stink. You've got to sell them two pieces. Now I don't want to use any flowers in a piece, but I think it's AJ Brown and another, but you got to sell them that they are going to get two pieces to start in their lineup. And I would go Brown and then some type of running back.

42:46 I don't think a 1-4 team wants AJ Brown.

42:49 I don't disagree, but okay, but then let me put it to you. You think he's had Zay Flowers as his wide receiver too? Would you trade Zay?

42:55 He's Olave and Flowers. So I would trade Olave and whatever tight end you've been playing to get Bowers.

43:03 That's what I would do.

43:04 But why would that guy want to do that?

43:08 Because he gets two pieces, right?

43:09 I think he wants RPE.

43:10 You know what?

43:11 Try that. I think that's a good way to try. Remember, also, I want to point out, you are 5-0. So sometimes if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But I would be trying to play down. I would be trying to get A.J. Brown and then another piece to push it. If it gets to, like, Olave and Flowers and a tight end, okay, maybe. But that's, like, so, because he said Tootin' and Brown. That seems like a lot, but if he's not starting him. That feels like a lot to trade. If Tootin is your RB2, I don't want to do that. You have a core. He's got Bijan, and then he's got Chase Brown. Would you do Chase and AJ Brown? Get all the Browns out of there?

43:50 I mean, you have to give the other person another tight end, though, because they don't have one because they're trading away powers.

43:55 They don't care. Throw them in whatever dumb tight end he has then.

43:59 Sure.

43:59 And get another piece.

44:01 Colston Loveland.

44:01 He has pits.

44:03 Yeah.

44:03 So he doesn't have a tight end.

44:04 He doesn't have a tight end.

44:05 Okay. Yeah.

44:06 I don't know. I think you play around with that. I think we gave you like a good general space.

44:10 An angle.

44:11 I think the angle to talk about here is that it's tough to trade with one in four teams. You know what I mean? Like how do you trade with one in four teams?

44:22 I mean, honestly, Welsh, the fact that we're struggling so much to kind of come up with a concrete answer, I think you just got to log off, man.

44:28 You're 5-0.

44:29 Yeah.

44:30 It's a great point.

44:30 Play the hits, man. Like if we, if we're like, and again, we went through the process, we tried to figure out ways that seem like we've made this deal making, and I get like your five and oh, you want to keep the good times rolling.

44:40 Can you make a move and try to be perfect?

44:42 Like, I'm sure that when we look at back out, when we look back at this deal, you're thinking, oh, like doing this for AJ Brown would have been so perfect or like selling off a lobby would have been perfect, but we can't predict the future. We're just using the best logic we can. And right now you're five and oh, they're one and four. you know, they got to make a deal, right? Make them come to you.

45:02 Send a small trade, send it, send a trade that like AJ Brown and then like a smaller piece that, and then see what they say. That's where to go. Uh, Sully, what up?

45:10 How's it going guys? Uh, Hope you're hope you're doing well. I'll try to make this as quick as I can. Question is kind of just about handcuffing at this point in the season. I know I believe I don't want to put words in your mouth, Erickson, but I think you were talking about handcuffing. If you have Bijan and Kenneth Walker and I got both of them, but they're an eight man league where I feel like it's not.

45:29 It kind of it kind of. Makes my team not as viable if I want like I have Swift as well. But then I also have a 14 team or where I feel like, you know, I have James Cook and I feel like I need to hold on to Ray Davis just in case something happens there. So kind of just the bigger picture on handcuffs, I guess, if that makes sense.

45:48 I hate handcuffing in an eight man league.

45:50 So when I was talking about this on the live stream, I know that one of the commenters actually disagreed with me. And I know, again, you don't have to agree with everything I say. And I wanted to add the context that it does depend. Like it's not black and white that all handcuffing like makes a ton of sense to do.

46:04 I think it depends on the backfield, how certain we are and confident we are that the quote unquote handcuff running back will take on a larger workload and deliver in that workload. Cause I thought that the person made really astute point when they were disagreeing. Me was like, yeah, you get more upside rostering other people's handcuffs. And I agree.

46:23 I think that there is a lot of upside with that, but, I also feel like if you know that Ken Walker has an injury history and you know that Emma Johnson is really good and it's going to probably see a bell cow roll. Like I, I just don't want to play that game. You know, like it's different saying this.

46:38 I just wanted to add to it is when you were going through this, if I were to handcuff one, it was Emma Johnson to Ken Walker.

46:46 Yeah.

46:46 I'm not really interested in the Brian Robinson one.

46:48 Yeah.

46:48 So yeah. So to that point.

46:50 So, so I do think it does depend on like the backfield. Like, like if you have Kim Scadamore, Bucky Irving, like, these other guys, like whatever, like if you want Kenneth game, well, great. If you don't want them cut, like, I don't think it's a, every, you have to have every single handcuff. Um, and even like to the Ray Davis point, I guess I could push back and be like, they love Ty Johnson, right?

47:10 Like he gets involved a lot.

47:11 So Ray Davis would obviously get a boost, but I think it's nice to have a handcuff.

47:16 I think that's probably the best way to phrase it. It's, Nice to have a hang up.

47:19 If you don't go out of your way to do it, if you can get Emma Johnson for free because you have Ken Walker, but not like you got to trade leg and arm to get this. And maybe that's where I misspoke. Maybe I shouldn't have been so defined about that on the live stream about you got to do whatever it takes to get Ken Walker or Emma Johnson.

47:34 If you have Ken Walker, maybe that's too aggressive. But I think if you can add those guys as throw ins to deals just to like, hey, get some insurance. I mean, I don't know if you have Chris McCaffrey. don't you kind of want to have Kalen Black? Like, I don't know. It just feels like I would prefer. True, yeah.

47:50 If it's an eight-man league, the handcuffs are going to be the first to go. So I would, in a shallower league, deeper league, you have a lot of bench spots, yeah, I would hold on to those handcuffs because it's not really hurting you. But if you've got to make moves, yeah, you've got to cut the handcuffs first. So hopefully that makes sense.

48:05 Helps you out a little bit. All right, we'll try to get to a couple more here. Rick, premium member of Fantasy Bros Discord, what up?

48:11 Hey, how's it going, guys? Appreciate you taking my message here.

48:15 Right now I've got my three wide receiver set, 12 team league, half point PPR. I've got Olave, Tett, and Tate. I'm looking at picking up Marvin Harrison Jr. I've got Diggs and Chisholm on my bench. How aggressive should I be? I was thinking about putting in like 12 bucks for him.

48:36 Yeah, drop Chisholm, pick up Harrison.

48:38 Yep.

48:38 I'm totally down with that, too.

48:40 Even though he is his own. ATO.

48:45 Dale, what up?

48:46 Can you hear me?

48:47 We got you.

48:47 All right, sweet.

48:49 So I have a team that's kind of in shambles right now, and I have a trade in place to get rid of Bijan and Harold Fannin for Chubba Hubbard, either George Pickens or A.J. Brown, and then Colson Loveland and Permuth.

49:06 I hate it.

49:08 Yeah, I don't want to trade Bichons or anything that doesn't involve Jameer Gibbs. Yeah, Pickens is cool.

49:15 The other pieces don't mean anything to me, so no. You got to get elite elite. you got to get bigger pieces if you're going to give away uh bijan no thank you the boys are back hey yeah chenzer last one chenzer what up.

49:30 Oh I have AJ Brown in the league where I am two and eight with median scoring. I've made a lot of trades and these last two weeks, I've been the second top scoring team and have played the top scoring team in the week. So I have to start three receivers. Is it even worth waiting out to see if AJ Brown becomes something? Cause I know high angle sprains are pretty bad productivity when you come back or if not, when is the best time to try to flip it? Like right before he's going to come back and play when value might be at its highest.

50:01 And what would you, I'm.

50:02 Probably trying to go wide receiver for wide receiver here.

50:04 So.

50:04 I think you have to get him back doing something to trade him. I don't think that this is the time. I mean, maybe it's right now when it's like today, when everybody's kind of like, Ooh, but I think you got to get him back producing.

50:17 Yeah.

50:18 It's always fun to try to figure out when's the exact right time to sell high on this certain player.

50:25 Right.

50:26 I think that you put him on the block and if you get an offer that you like, you move off of A.J. Brown. So it's one of those, like, take the bird in the hand, right? If you don't need to wait for him to do anything and you can get a good deal, take it. Because there's always a chance, like, well, if I wait for him to play the Bears and he goes off, maybe he could get more. But you could wait forever and you could always get more, right? If he keeps on producing, it's like, I should have just kept him the entire time. So I think that if I were to time it, in my opinion, it would be Thursday night, he plays the Chicago bears has a big game. And then you would trade after that point. Now, again, there's no guarantee. That's

51:05 actually how it plays out. But if you're really trying to aim for the maximum return on AJ Brown, it would be an Island game when everyone is watching and a good matchup against a really bad defense where he is not coming off a game and playing on Sunday where every other guy played on Sunday. So that would probably be the best timing that was just.

51:24 I agree. And friends, that is going to do it for this episode. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us. Fantasypros.com slash chat if you want to hang out with us 2 p.m. Eastern on Thursdays. You can be a part of the audience. You can get on the podcast. We've got other offerings. We've got other great stuff. We have a Discord community as a life of its own, characters of their own. So come and check that out. Make sure you're locked into not just the podcast, but on the YouTube side as well. Erickson and I have done Tailgate on the Tailgate channel. We have me, him, and Fitzy did the ranks episodes, which just posted. And then if you want to come over to BP, you guys have done your best bets, and

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