Week 4 Fantasy Football News: Puka Nacua, Braelon Allen, J.J. McCarthy & Start/Sit Advice (Ep. 2233)

0:01 What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the tailgate. I am Andrew Erickson here flying solo. Welsh is off doing Welsh things, things that Welsh is do. But don't worry, we are back here talking about the top five storylines heading into NFL week four because the people need it. So welcome to chat. Welcome to the live stream. If you have questions, comments about the topics that we're breaking down about the NFL, don't be shy. We are here to answer your questions and have a lot of fun along the way. So the next 30 minutes, buckle in and let's have some fun.

0:38 Breaking news came before we just started the stream. Puka Nakua, Los Angeles Rams star wide receiver reported by Adam Schefter to be expected to play in week four, according to head coach Sean McVay, playing on Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles. The Puka Nuku experience has not been fun for anybody invested from a fantasy perspective. Not been great for the Rams, although Devante Adams has more than picked up the slack in terms of his two monster games the last two weeks.

1:13 As a Devante Adams fader in fantasy football, the last two weeks have been very, very painful to watch. But I did always kind of acknowledge in the back of my mind that this was always possible if Puka were to miss time. then Devontae Adams would be an absolute smash. So at least things are looking up for Puka Nakua.

1:31 This groin, hip, sports hernia injury, it's kind of all over the place with the reporting. We've seen some other things kind of trickle out that it could be a sports hernia that could require surgery. So we shall see. But for now, it looks like for week four, Puka Nakua is going to be out there for the LA Rams.

1:48 And if you have him in fantasy, you're starting him. And you're excited. We'll see if he survives. Dave Flowers came back from his injury in week three and was absolutely fantastic despite playing on a pitch count. And I can already see the fantasy questions piling in about Puka Nikua. Do I start him? He's going to be on a pitch count. And for me, it's you're going to fire this guy up no matter what. Unless we get more information.

2:11 But this has happened before, I believe. I don't know if it was his rookie year or two years ago. On like a Thursday night, Puka was questionable. And then He played and he just absolutely smashed. So similar to the Brock Bauer situation that we saw in week three, Bauer's missed the first two weeks of the season, came back, absolutely went nuclear. I just can't bench that type of upside.

2:31 Now we also have some other breaking news here. It looks like Patriots quarterback Drake May popped up on the injury report for the first time this season with what the team is calling a right shoulder injury. May was still a full participant at today's practice despite the injury designation. Have we reached Patriots' shoulder gate with Drake May? It all stems back to the shoulder. The shoulder was the reason why he struggled against the best defenses in the NFL.

3:01 It's why he's been struggling to start the season for the New England Patriots. I know that's kind of been an interesting topic that People watching Drake May, looking at his mechanics this season, because he hasn't looked right. I'm more in the camp that he's not seeing the field the right way and he's pressing and he's trying to make too many plays. And even last week, there were plays left on the table. The turnovers were inexcusable. So, so bad across the board for Drake May. But there were opportunities for him to actually score points. The Patriots drove the ball into the Jaguars' side seven times on the Jaguars' side of the field. But the turnovers, missed field goals, They could not find the end zone. Matt

3:41 Collins dropped the touchdown. Kyle Williams ran out of bounds. What would have been a 50-yard receiving touchdown. Miss Romeo Dobbs, miscommunication. He had a 21-yard rushing touchdown that was called back. And obviously, some of his interceptions were absolutely brutal. And who could forget the misplacement of dropping back to throw.

3:59 The ball goes out of his hands. And then he talks about how, well, my center bled all over the ball. It's really humid in Jacksonville. And that's why the ball slipped out of my hands. So still making excuses for Drake May. I'm trying not to do that. Even as the Patriots homer, the Patriots stand here at fantasy pros slash betting pros and on the tailgate. Obviously, you can see my background, a lot of Pat's merchandise. So I bleed blue. And then right now, Patriots are bleeding a lot of blue based on their offensive performance over the last three weeks of the season. So Maybe it is all the shoulder injury and maybe that's why he's playing bad.

4:32 But if that means he is playing through injury and that's why he's playing bad, then why should we expect anything different? But that will be a another topic for another day as we break down the top two storylines just breaking right now. But let's dive into the top five storylines that we came in to today looking to break down. Ollie Gordon running back for the Miami Dolphins probably saw him. In your fantasy football league, you picked up the waiver wire this week. He and Jalen Wright, hot debate discussion at the water cooler, at the bars this week for sure. Who's going to be the RB1 for Miami Dolphins? It doesn't even matter because they're facing the Minnesota Vikings and Brian Flores in a hashtag revenge game.

5:14 A lot of revenge games this week, which we need to make like a segment on some show, maybe on the tailgate about revenge games season. Does it matter? Does it not matter? But I think Brian Flores, is going to throw everything he can at the Miami Dolphins team that obviously they had a awkward, to say the least, ending to that relationship in his tenure in Miami. So as someone that comes from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, yeah, I'm sure that there's some bad blood that he's going to remember when he faces the Miami Dolphins, especially based on the state of their franchise. 0-3, probably going to be 0-4 after they face the Vikings. Lost their best player, Devon Achan, last week. So I think that's going to continue.

5:57 Now with Ollie Gordon, it really depends on what we see from Jalen Wright. I don't know if Jalen Wright was practicing today. I'm not sure, Sal, behind the scenes, if you can give me an update on the Miami Dolphins injury report, if you want to throw it in the private chat. But TBD on the status of Jalen Wright, who was dealing with a stinger slash foot injury. And that's really what kind of put Ollie Gordon into this monster role back in week three. where he's basically playing every single snap for the Miami Dolphins. He didn't cede any touches to another running back. After HN got hurt, he played and touched the ball basically every single time for the Miami Dolphins among their backfield mates. So if

6:39 Jalen Wright is not playing, I think that Gordon is probably going to be the RB1. How he will perform is TBD because it's just a really brutal matchup. Although after rewatching what he did last week, I was more or less impressed than what I think I was expecting. I was expecting more of a bruising type performance, but I thought he actually did make a couple of decent plays.

7:01 He definitely does have a lot of power to his game. And I did think he did make at least one nice catch. So he does have a three down skill set. He's obviously not as good as HN, but I think for right now, tentatively, he looks like the Dolphins already won for what it's worth. Do we have a question here before we hop to our next topic. MDA Harris, is Aaron Jones a lineup lock? Would you go with him or Chase Brown, Devonta Smith, or Chuba in the flex?

7:28 Full PPR. Thanks for the question, MDA Harris. Thanks for supporting the channel here on the tagline. Remember, subscribe to the tailgate. Is a lineup lock? I think so. I mean, he's facing the Miami Dolphins. It's hard to really bench any offensive player when they're facing Miami. I was talking about it on the rank show. We actually discussed Aaron Jones on the fantasy pros ranking show. myself, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Tara Roberts, again, filling in for Welsh, who's off doing Welsh, whatever Welsh is due this time of day and this time of year. So it's really hard to bench him. I would say over those types of players though, I think I actually prefer all those guys. I guess you can make the argument that Devante Smith might be

8:08 the odd man out just because he's a wide receiver. So the position is always a little bit more of a wide variance, but Chase Brown, The volume he's seeing, Jacksonville Jaguars matchup should be a shootout. I don't want to bench him. Chuba Hubbard, again, another player that's seeing just a massive workload. My argument against Aaron Jones was just that, can you keep this up, number one? Because it seems like this guy is one hit away from just being carted off the field on a stretcher because he's just taken such a beating over the last two weeks.

8:38 And look, the team loves Aaron Jones. I just don't know how much longer he can handle this massive type of workload. So it wouldn't surprise me if against a team like Miami, that's actually been better against the run than the past this year. I mean, you can pass all day against the Miami Dolphins that maybe in this consideration, he actually would be a bench, but still a good player to start regardless, unless you have really other great options, but it's a good problem to have M. Day Harris.

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9:30 Todd Gurley, man, what an absolute legend. Absolute legend in fantasy football. Just that dang degenerative knee injury. Next topic, Sal, if you want to pull it up. I don't remember what I put for number two here. Let me, yes, Braylon Allen, Sisson, New York Jets. So we're just shaking up all these backfields here this week. It's a fun week for fantasy because we get all these running backs and the running backs don't matter mantra. This is where that comes to mind the most. When star running back goes down, backup comes in, smashes. It's like, oh, we don't matter. Although that's really not been the case over the last couple years when we've seen a lot of these running backs smash in a big way. Before we

10:12 do break down Braylon, I just want to follow up on the Jalen Wright limited participant on Wednesday. to be expected. So TBD, make sure you go check out the fantasy pros. Are they playing tool to get more updates about Jalen, right? But right now, based on his limited participation, Somali Gordon's probably going to be the guy at least this week, but may not be the guy in future weeks. Braylon Allen though, I feel like actually I like a lot more specifically for this week and for future weeks while Brees Hall is kind of on the shelf dealing with this thigh bruise injury. Braylon Allen is a monster. one of the youngest players in the NFL, despite that he's packed.

10:50 I think it's his third season, but he entered the NFL at age 20, former Wisconsin Badger. Shout out to Pat Fitzmore's and his Badgers. He's a tank. And I think that through the first three weeks of the season, we've seen Braylon Allen kind of check off all the boxes. Okay. Explosive. He ripped off a big run in week one. It got called back because due to a penalty, but can rip off some big plays. It's the Bears matchup. That's solid.

11:14 Not ready to call the Bears the 85 Bears after they stopped the Vikings in week two and they stopped the Eagles offense. Because the Eagles, like we know, can't really get out of their own way. And honestly, Saquon Barkley was the only thing that was kind of working for that Eagles offense on the ground. Really efficient in the first half. Obviously, Eagles kind of abandoned the run game in the second half on Monday Night Football. So I think Brandon Allen can find some success here for the Jets offensively. Last week, he had four targets. And in week two, he had goal-lining red zone opportunities. So they clearly... trust Braylon Allen with some of these high value opportunities and high value touches. So yeah, I think

11:47 that he's going to be in for a solid outing and honestly excited to kind of see this guy play. He is an absolute monster, a unit as the kids might call. So I'm excited for Braylon Allen and to see how his backfield shakes out. Dude, the Jets, man. Aaron Glenn, not going to be the first head coach fired.

12:04 I think that was one of my bold predictions earlier this off season. And at the time it was like, man, how is this possibly going to happen. But then like Todd Bowles is in a really, really tough spot here, especially losing Baker Mayfield. Don't know how that team is going to recover. The Buccaneers, I've said on multiple shows, but that team has taken on water. The ship is going down. Will Jalen Daniels be the savior that the Bucs need? I maybe. I don't think so. I don't think so. All right. Let's get to some more questions here before we get to the next storyline to talk about.

12:36 I'm also just trying to keep pace to make sure I'm not missing any other breaking news items. Nothing there. So Bucky Irving did appear on the injury report this week, but I don't think that it's anything super, super glaring. All right. Carter Strange SSK, a super chat. Appreciate it. Kyron Williams, Burden or Monty slash Garrett Wilson rest of season.

12:59 So this is just a generic trade. Man, I really like Garrett Wilson rest of season. I don't like Dave Montgomery. Dave Montgomery seems like a potential not usable piece at some point during the season. So I think I'm going to go with Kyron Williams and Luther Burton, honestly. I really like Garrett Wilson. I think he's the guy I value the most, but I think it's close enough between him and Kyron where Kyron is just going to do his thing. And Kyron did show up last week over Blake Corum, which has not always been the case for the first two weeks of the season. So I think I'm doing Kyron and Luther Burton here. Burden has proved me wrong for the first three weeks of the season.

13:34 Leads the Bears in targets over the last three weeks, even with Khalif Raymond being the prince that was promised. And I mean, they should put Khalif Raymond on the Madden cover, man. What were they thinking? Awesome Dev. Drop Rashad White or Kyle Monunga to pick up Travion Henderson. Yeah, I'm willing to drop Rashad White. It looks like he's injured, dealing with a shoulder injury. The team added Austin Eckler.

13:56 So my this year's Javante Williams take for Rashad White's not coming to fruition. He's just banged up right now. So I think I would actually pick up Trayvon to for Rashad White. So awesome, Dev. Appreciate you in the chat. As always, that's the move I would make. Steven Garcia. Full PPR pick three. Agbuka, Golden, Neighbors, McLaurin. Thanks, Goat. No, thank you, Steven. Appreciate you watching the tailgate. Appreciate you guys hanging out, man. I'm just dude talking ball on a Wednesday afternoon. Love it, man. Best place to be right now. For this week, not playing Ibuka. Golden's in.

14:32 Neighbors is in. McLaurin's in. There you go. Fade the books. Mark Andrews from ETW Burn. Mark Andrews or Sadiq? Rest of season PPR. If it's Mark Andrews basically versus anybody, I'm not going to say Mark Andrews. So this will be Kenyan Sadiq for me. That one is easy. Another question from ETW. underscore burn. Monty or DJ Moore is my second flex, PPR. I'm going with DJ Moore. Man, the Dallas Cowboys, is the matchup bringing people back to Montgomery?

15:03 Just be careful. Just be careful. I'm still going with DJ Moore. Another update from my guy, Sal, behind the scenes. Appreciate you, Sal. Jalen Waddell practiced in full today, which is very good because he was seen after the game, or I think it was on Monday or Tuesday, wearing a boot It's like full on bootsy. I know it's like fall and people want to rock the boots. You know, girls wear Uggs. I mean, Tom Brady wears Uggs. So Uggs season, pumpkin spice season, boot season. Like all these people are just rocking these boots after their games. But apparently it's more like precautionary than anything like, oh, it's going to be a very severe injury. So Jalen Waddle, good to be in. Let's see you bounce back. 49ers,

15:48 suspect secondary, shootout. Bo Nix is quarterback, so it's going to be a roller coaster no matter what. But hey, saddle up, baby. That's why he's on the Broncos. Saddle up. Last question here before I get to our next segment, our next storyline. Patfan0987. Go, Pat. Should I trade Watson for Brees Hall, Jake Williams, or Tootin and Tootin? Christian Watson or not. So I guess it's got to be for all three then. If it's Javante Williams, yes. I think if it's Jamison Williams, I don't like it obviously as much. I think it's still a yes. If you really mean running backs, I think that this is a move that you would make, especially if it's Javante. If it's Jamison, I don't hate as much, but I don't

16:36 like it as much, obviously. But I think that this is a good trade. So let's get to our next storyline here. Number three, Sal, remind me again. What do we got? Get that graphic in here for the number three storyline. Panthers. Oh, this actually dovetails right well into the Jamison Williams discussion. Mike Jackson and JC Horn, the Panthers' two starting cornerbacks, both placed on injured reserve this week. Dude, if this is not the Jamison Williams week, I don't know what we're doing. I don't know what Dan Campbell, Drew Petsig, what are we doing here, folks? I get they're playing outside because you always got to be careful whenever Jared Goff steps outside to play football because for some reason the indoor catch takes over. But against the

17:16 Carolina Panthers, another... You got indoor cat versus outdoor cat. It is a cat battle here in Sunday night football. So I think Jamison Williams, this has to be a place you start him in. I think that he's a player that has big games. This has to be a spot where he explodes. So that's why they want to bring that up because the Panthers are dealing with a lot of injuries right now, have an awesome guard injury.

17:39 So I'm expecting Bryce Young, assuming he's healthy. I know he had his ankle imaging done. So we shall see. We're seeing fireworks. Sunday night football. So that's a game I'm actually looking forward to a ton. And we're going to be talking about it on the tailgate myself. Maybe Welsh. If he's back. If he's not doing Welsh things. And Pat Fitzmaurice should be a lot of fun. Christian Gonzalez.

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18:54 That's FPPod to get a free $ 25 after you trade just $ 10. Storyline number four. What do we got? Who will be the quarterback for Chicago this week? Case Keenum did the unthinkable. Beat the Eagles. Overrated team on Monday Night Football. Flawless game, really, from Case Keenum, who Ben Johnson masterclass with a third string quarterback being able to take down a look. Eagles have their offensive problems, but their defense has also maybe been a tad bit overrated for the first three weeks of the season. I know I pointed out how their run defense had not been great on one of the rankings shows a couple of weeks ago. And the Bears obviously were able to do kind of everything that they wanted to. They passed effectively.

19:47 down to Swift was able to run the ball effectively. Now it does put the bears in a weird position where do they actually believe Keenum is the better quarterback because he wouldn't have been the QB three all year. If they actually felt that way, or is it, well, we got to ride the momentum of case Keenum, or is it one of these scenarios where lightning struck with case Keenum? They got the sun run. And now it's like, all right, that's probably not going to happen again. Let's go back to Tyson Bajent, who we actually think is better.

20:15 So I'm interested to see what they actually do here. I think Ben Johnson was talking about going back to Bajent. I don't know if we have actually any confirmed about who's actually going to start. I mean, if I'm Ben Johnson, like, why would I tell Aaron Glenn which quarterback I'm going to start? You know, that's another really interesting... markup about this potential matchup against the New York Jets is it's Aaron Glenn against Ben Johnson. Now, in the past, Ben Johnson has had the edge in terms of these offensive coordinator defensive quarter matchups. I know that he had been pretty successful against Brian Flores defenses. Obviously, that didn't work in week two. Brian Flores ended up having the last laugh,

20:53 but five and two now straight up against the the defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings in Brian Flores. So I'd actually do give the edge here to Ben Johnson, especially what he did to Vic Fangio. I think that he'll have the edge, especially just personnel wise. Like the Jets secondary is not even close to what the Eagles have.

21:12 So I think the Bears are going to have some advantages here, even though the Bears defensive line or the Jets defensive line has actually improved a lot since last season under Aaron Glenn. So I think it'll be Bajent unless we get something else that clearly says otherwise. And maybe Sal's telling me that that's not the case. Nope.

21:28 We're just getting more updates about these receivers. DJ Moore, limited. Nico Collins, limited. Mike Evans won't practice. Mike Evans is not playing. So don't hold out for Mike Evans. It's going to be Brandon Cooks, Sisson. Is Christian Kirk coming back for the 49ers? Also heard a rumor that Brian Thomas Jr. potentially on the move to the Bay Area.

21:47 Please get Brian Thomas Jr. out of Jacksonville. They don't want him. They don't need him. That's fine. Move on. He needs to be with his boy, Mac Jones. That's where Brian Thomas Jr. needs to be. Make it happen. Brian Thomas Jr., Mac Jones, the Reunite. That's what we need. So that's my breakdown there. Let's go to more questions here.

22:13 Matt B. SBL. My team is Mahomes, Brown, Irving, Puga, Smith, Lovlin, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, I bet you guys. Who should I target and bundle together for who? Eight-man full PPR. So if I'm looking to trade somebody, I think that you want to hold Puka, Jeremiah Love. I mean, I kind of like this team.

22:36 If you're looking to bundle someone to like move up, I guess running back would probably be the area you'd look to upgrade the most. But I don't think you can really package Brown and Irving with anybody in particular. Maybe Brown. So I think Brown is like a buy as a buy low Irving. You know, the situation is not that great. So I don't know if there's really like an obvious trade. I guess tight end is probably where you need the most. So if you could bundle Loveland, I mean, I don't really want to trade Loveland just because his stock is so, so low right now. Brees, Kyron, T, Swift.

23:04 I mean, I feel like this team's pretty good. I guess, yeah, tight end, I guess is where you need the most help with. So if you wanted to trade, I guess if you really want to upgrade tight end, it'd be Loveland plus a running back to upgrade that tight end spot. Maybe someone like a Dalton Kincaid or something like that.

23:20 Maybe that's what I would do. But honestly, Matt, I don't really love a lot of that strategy. I'm trying to think like maybe Brown plus Smith to get like an even better running back. Maybe that's another idea. But Eagles off, it's not looking great on Monday Night Football. I don't think Smith. I think I gotta wait. Wait a week, Matt. Wait a week. I feel like you still have a pretty strong team here. But that's my main take. Awesome dev. Trade Herbert for Geno Smith. Oh, God.

23:46 I mean, I don't know when it's gonna turn around for Justin Herbert. I'd trade Herbert to get Drake May. Um, I just don't think Gino has like the, I mean, he's got good matchups this week. So in a super flex, dude, I don't know if I can do it. I think it's, I think it's a no for me, but if you like need production right now, I understand like what you have to do, but in a super flex, it feels, feels dirty. We expect Gino to produce. Cause Gino's like very matchup. I mean, he was QB three. Cause he faced the lions. Justin Herbert gets to face the lions.

24:13 He's going to be a top quarterback too. So not in super flex. I'm not doing it. ET underscore burn. I've Kyron as, as my RB to such flex. Quorum is just drop. Should I grab and let Jerry price go? Yep. Got to do it. You got to protect the assets. Engineering price is heading in the wrong direction. The fumbles, all that stuff. Planning a trade. Rashad rice, Rashad rice, rashy rice, and Kim's got it. Of course, a lobby and Dobbins. Is that a fair trade? Yeah, I think so.

24:41 I don't love Dobbins. But I feel like he's kind of like the throw-in piece here. So you at least got a running back because you're getting Olave, who's the best part of the deal. So I do like this option as well. Steven Garcia talking about needed Marvin Harrison trade to happen. Guys, who's getting traded first? Marvin Harrison or Brian Thomas Jr.? These guys both got to get dealt because they're not being used on their own teams.

25:03 At least Brian Thomas Jr., we know he's actually good because like when he did his rookie year. Marvin Harrison Jr., man, he just, man, I don't know. He just fell so significantly. So 80s tunes, full PPR, wide receiver two, Egbuka, Boston, Lemon, or Coker. Would you drop any of these guys for Vele? I would not. I still like Lemon as a stash.

25:25 Vele is more of that, okay, any production right now. But yeah, that's kind of my take on that. I would rather keep Egbuka and Boston. So, but maybe we revisit that if Egbuka bombs with Jalen Daniels. I can't believe his name is Jalen Daniels. So close to this other guy, Jaden Daniels. And then we had the two H hands. Now both of them are injured. It's just fancy football, man. Football in general. Just all right. Pat fan again. Oh, nine, eight, seven. No Gonzalez practice this week.

25:56 Not great. Not great. Let's get that question up here. A bunch of their roster will be upgraded. Might need to be able to get Javante Williams or Tootin. They're both slim at receiver. Yeah, like going after Bashell Tootin, who's my running back buy on the trade show this week with Worm. Honestly, look, any of these wide receivers, Waddle, Burden, maybe Loveland straight up if you just want to get a running back. But I guess if you need a receiver.

26:21 So yeah, it'd be Waddle or Burden for me. Straight up for Tootin. I think that gets the job done. Get an RB2 for, again, you're always going to have to sacrifice a quote-unquote better wide receiver. for a running back. I think Burden would probably be my first because I'd rather keep Watson than Burden. Matt, would you do Puka and Brown for Gibbs? Puka and Love for Gibbs with my current team? Yeah, I just want Gibbs. You can get Gibbs any way, any way, shape or form. Do it.

26:46 Do it, do it, do it. Easy, easy, easy. He's going to score touchdowns every single week, three weeks in a row, hoping that it turns into 18 weeks in a row for Jimmy or Gibbs. Would you accept Christian Watson for Puka Nakua? No. I'm holding out hope for Puka. Holding out hope. He's going to play this week. I'm holding out hope. And maybe that's dumb, but I'm going to do it. It sucks, too, because I feel like if you were a 1-2 or 2-1 team, you could buy Puka on the cheap. I feel like that'd be smart to do, or 0-3. But everyone that's 0-3 already has Puka. It's one of these things where, yeah, this guy's a buy low, this guy's a buy low. But you look at your team, I have all the buy lows.

27:23 That's why my team's 0-3. So just a weird quirk about fantasy stuff. Steven Garcia... Texans, Bills, Chiefs, Rams, Vikings, depending on Jefferson and Puka's injury. Talking about potential trade destinations for, I think, Marv here, or maybe Brian Thomas Jr. Either way, I thought Brian Thomas Jr. could go to the Raiders at some point, but 49ers make so much sense. Especially, I feel like he could be that Brandon Iyuk that obviously is not coming back. It was so funny when they asked Kyle Shannon about, hey, is Brandon Iyuk an option?

27:54 He's like, no. Definitely... No for Brent Nyuk being on the 49ers. All right, last two questions here. Adam Ward, 01. Do you think Khaleef Raymond could be playing on Mom and Ross same round in this role for the Bears since he knows Ben Johns' offense? Could he be playing? He kind of is playing it right now. So, yeah.

28:21 It's very bizarre just how big Khaleef Raymond has been involved in. I got to double check this, but I'm pretty sure Khaleef Raymond went to Holy Cross, which is the same school that Jalen Coker went to. Very small school in Worcester, Massachusetts, very close to where I grew up. So it's just interesting to see these guys popping up.

28:39 I think it was Holy Cross. It might've been a different school in Worcester, Massachusetts. I have to double check, but yeah, it's good to see him having success for sure. I've always kind of like been like a Kelly Raymond trooper or a truther. And of course I have, of course I totally disregarded. I'm like the coaching receiver guy.

28:56 I'm obsessed with those types of connections. Of course, this just totally flew by my read. And yes, Sal's confirming in the chat that it was Holy Cross. So these Crusaders, man, Kalief Raymond smashing, Jalen Coker smashing, Holy Cross is back. College football. There we go. There we go. FTK331, last question here. How much fab would you use on JK Domins? Honestly, not much. I guess if he could be your RB2, It's fine, but he just feels kind of like a placeholder.

29:30 We know he's going to probably get hurt at the end of the season or sometime during the season. Jonah Coleman will come back. So if he is still your best RB2, I would say nothing more than like 10%. just because I don't want to be overinvested in someone like a J.K. Dobbins who doesn't have a receiving role, but does play in a good offense. Matchup's not that bad this week. So I guess maybe like 15% if you just need a starter and you can ride out J.K.

29:53 Dobbins for as long as he's healthy and available. And Jordan Coleman is hurt right now. So at least Dobbins does have the clear path to the early down touches, whereas Harvey is going to be working in the passing game. And he does have five goal line carries in the last two games, just no touchdowns. So 10 to 15%, 15% if you're really like, hey, I got to get this RB2 thing fixed. So that's what I would do. Let's get to the last storyline. But before, yeah, let's get the last storyline. Throw it up there, Sal. JJ McCarthy to the giants. So we did a big breakdown this on the Monday recap tailgate show. Cause that's when the news broke when McCarthy got traded to the New York giants for my fifth round pick. And I think I

30:34 was probably painting a somewhat optimistic picture about, I think I liked the move overall from the giant standpoint. It's like, what do you got to lose, man? Like we know what James Winston kind of is at this point, getting McCarthy starts getting a competent backup quarterback to Jackson dart, who unfortunately has been injured both years of his career and It's not because he was playing reckless that he got hurt in week two on Monday Night Football. He took a hit in the pocket, throwing the ball. So it's really unfortunate that that happened to Dart. But look, the Harbaugh's know each other. Obviously, John talked to Jim was like, hey, what about this McCarthy guy? And he's like, get this dude out of Minnesota. So I think it's

31:08 a win win for both parties involved. And I think McCarthy might just fit the Jackson Dart offense better than James Winston. So that does at least give me some optimism that he could be an upgrade for all these pieces. On the same, but in the same token, right? DJ McCarthy was also awful for fantasy receivers last year. Like Jefferson was a horrible. So I'm very interested to see what this offense looks like against the Arizona Cardinals under normal circumstances. Do we ever see the Jameis Winston again?

31:39 That's fun for fantasy. I still, I don't know. I really don't know. And even my neighbors as a player rank this week is tough because I just don't know which version Jameis Winston we're going to see. And I guess I'm like trying to lean into the more optimistic side just because the two game scripts have been so poor for a Giants passing game to work in any way, shape, or form. Coming off the bench in week two, playing in bad weather against the Titans in week three, against the Arizona Cardinals who kind of like force shootout game environments. Man, is James Winston like licking his chops to this type of matchup? Potentially. So I will say... I think we're going to see McCarthy in there sooner rather than later.

32:17 Cause I don't think that Jameis is like the long-term answer, especially if he just doesn't fit this offense. Whereas McCarthy, I think does fit it much more stylistically. So we shall see what happens with Malik neighbors, at least gives the giants another out potentially, if it doesn't work with Jameis Winston and he's just like totally cooked and just not the same guy. So if Winston is bad with Malik neighbors, at least McCarthy is another option where, okay, maybe can we get better for this giants passing attack, but it's, Malik Neighbors is a buy low if you can actually buy him low, I would say. I think somebody asked me if you could get Malik Neighbors for Debo Samuel. And I was like, yes, that's the perfect

32:55 buy low. I have no problem pulling the trigger on that type of deal. So if you can do that, do that. If not, I think I'm just holding Neighbors just because the guy's so talented. But I'd also sell if someone gives me a strong enough offer, like Christian Watson for Malik Neighbors. I mean, maybe I just don't deal with the potential headache. Christian Watson's been balling out this year. Christian Watson's going to be wide receiver one.

33:14 I mean, he's kind of already this one, but like he's on track to be top 12 receiver. So if that's like best case scenario with neighbors so far this year, then I'd rather just take the guy like Watson. So just a couple of nuggets, the five top storylines, top storylines, the five top storylines here on the tailgate, Andrew Erickson.

33:36 So that's going to wrap up our live stream for today. today checking the chat to make sure I didn't forget anything. Yes, we got it all. Appreciate you, Sal, on the ones and twos behind the scenes, giving me all the updates I need. I appreciate you guys for watching and hanging out with us. So I do want to promote that we have the Thursday night football postgame tailgate stream after tomorrow's game. The fantasy dude is going to tell you about all of his biggest takeaways right here on the tailgate YouTube channel. So again, Thank you all for tuning in.

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