Ben Simmons' COMEBACK Ramps Up, Ant & LaMelo's Wolves Are DIFFERENT & OKC Might've Done It Again! Part 2

0:00 Well, let's keep it in second. We're going to talk about another small guard who's going to do some big things. So, Darius Acuff Jr. continued to impress this preseason. Seventh overall pick. Had his best game so far against the Dubs. Let's take a look at the highlights from that game. If we can, please. So, Acuff Jr. towards the Warriors with 25 points. Get into it.

0:21 I like his game. He's my favorite. The ability to just make buckets.

0:25 He got it. Look at that. This is how calm he be. He. To move fast and think calm. What did I get? 25 points in this game. Under duress. This is like a 10-year vet. It's crazy.

0:42 With the Braves. I'm a big fan of anybody who's still rocking Braves in 2026.

0:45 How's that? How's that? How's that? Break everything under control. Break you down. I will break you down. That's what I'm saying.

0:52 So, 25 points in the game. 16 in the first half. Played 27 minutes. He was 8 for 15 from the field. 4 for 6 from distance. Also dished out eight assists, grabbed four rebounds in the process.

1:03 What I like about him is... His moves are simple.

1:08 It's not a thousand moves. I'm going to give you one move to react, and then I'm going to react off what you do.

1:14 And I'm going to go score the ball. Three level scores. Sometimes less is more. Look at this. Three level. Just like you said, cross.

1:22 One cross and go. One cross and go. But he's sore fight really well. You reach with this arm, I'm.

1:29 Right by you, man. I'm low. Every counter is efficient. Very.

1:33 So through three pre-season games, Acuff Jr. averaging 19 points, four assists, but also four turnovers, but he's 43-41.

1:39 100 splits. I just got to give context. I'm not tripping either. No, no, no, no, no. Four turnovers? That's it? That's it. You're a rookie, man. A rookie guard. That shit happens.

1:48 I was all NBA play averaging four turnovers.

1:51 There you go. You take our kid. James Harden's still turning that bitch on. He's 18 years in. We just give context here. 18 years home. But shooting 41% from Dick. 18 years home. That's crazy. He's with the Kings, brother. He's not winning a chip this year. Sure. For the best, the best, the best, the best. He's not winning this year.

2:09 I ain't saying he gonna win this year. I'm just saying he not playing to lose.

2:13 This is a year of development.

2:15 Yes.

2:16 The turnovers in preseason are okay right now. I need it down to 4-1. That's fine.

2:21 I think it'll happen with time, but the point I'm making.

2:24 It better happen. Magic Johnson, 4. Magic Johnson, 4, 4, 4, 4.6, 4. Yeah, you passing that joint.

2:31 But how many assists, girl? Wait, wait, wait. With all that shit. How many again? With all that shit, man.

2:38 Let me just get my point.

2:40 My point was... We said four to four. Four to four.

2:43 Going the ball around and shitting the high-level guard.

2:47 The ratio. You don't want to give him the ratio? He could have had eight, though. He had eight. Give me the.

2:53 Ratio of what the assist was in all these fours.

2:57 Four turnovers. You know what I'm saying? He was doing.

3:07 What he was doing. What was he doing? I don't know.

3:09 Okay, the first year, he was at the shooting guard. So it was seven assists, four turnovers.

3:14 Seven to four. Eight. Fold. Eight to fold.

3:18 Nine, 3.7. Fold. And then they moved his ass to the point guard position. And then it was 10-fold, 13-fold, 12-fold, 12-fold, 12-fold.

3:28 Consistent. 12-fold. 12-fold. Look, he on the right. Hey, I ain't going to lie. This nigga got. I had to read. You might have made a different point than you thought you made. This nigga had rebounded. This nigga had rebounded. This look like rebound. How many turnovers I have? See if I'm in the same conversation. Joseph, I don't look that up.

3:50 10-5.

3:50 I'm going to keep it in my brain. 13-1. 12.6, 12.6, 12.2, 11.9, 12.8, 11.5, 12.5. Here's the last.

3:52 Dang.

3:52 This is rebounding numbers, bro. Yeah. And them niggas can't even do it on his team. Yeah.

3:56 Ain't that bad. 3.3, not bad.

4:13 That ain't that shabby. 3.3? Yeah, most of them offensive fouls, probably. Right, all of them. All of them. Oh, yeah, you're going to have them. All offensive fouls. All charge offensive fouls. Give me aggressive ones. That's like Melo.

4:29 If Melo has 40, I know he's going to have three turnovers.

4:33 Yeah. You got to be aggressive.

4:34 Yeah. It ain't going to be no bullshit turnover, but as long as it's an aggressive turnover and it's not you getting dipped at half court to where I can't help.

4:42 It's like, I'm going to get you extra possession or two, brother. You don't mind your score doing that.

4:46 I don't look at the turnovers as, like, I don't value them like just turnovers.

4:52 How do you play the game?

4:53 Because if you're playing it a certain way, those turnovers are.

4:58 Part of it.

4:59 Like, if you're an aggressive guard and you're playing a certain way, okay, like Westbrook, He's going to get some charges, like even someone like.

5:09 LaMelo, right?

5:11 There's going to be some wild shit going on. Now, if you got someone like Holly who understands his passing, then you have brilliance.

5:22 You have brilliance. But J.K.

5:23 Is going to have four turnovers. Because he going to trash it.

5:26 CP was really good. CP ain't turning that bitch over. He ain't going to keep his shit down.

5:32 He's probably, like turnover ratio, he's probably the best in the NBA ever.

5:35 It's him and Stockton. Stockton? Yeah. But the difference between.

5:40 Him and Stockton are the same.

5:43 They're passers. Yeah.

5:47 Rondo, those are playmaking types.

5:51 They're making... One of them is home run. I always said this.

5:55 Chris Paul is John Stottson.

5:58 They make the pass that makes the dunk. Yes.

6:02 Rondo throws the hockey assist that forces this guy.

6:05 He played that in every way. Yeah.

6:07 But he's taking the hockey assist because he know if I throw this the first two times now, you can't do that.

6:12 And then I can throw that.

6:13 I think that was the knock-on plan with CP, though. It was like he always wanted that home run assist.

6:18 It was.

6:18 But it was a game plan for us.

6:22 When you're guarding him, you're trying to get him to fall for that bait.

6:25 But it's like, for real, for real, I'm trying to keep you from throwing this over here.

6:30 And I'm baiting you into.

6:31 This pass knowing we're just going to corral him.

6:34 He's going to miss, but you wanted that assist.

6:37 But when you look at CP teams.

6:41 They all depended on this guy. Yeah, you. Oh, no, you know what I'm saying?

6:45 Like, if you could make CP take the bait and just score the ball, you could win.

6:49 Right.

6:49 You just have to make him frustrated and he can't control nothing. Like, after about 35, CP be kind of like, bro.

6:56 Like, it was like when you look at him. Ain't nobody open my nigga.

6:59 Like, he's not that type of person to be like, I need to have 80.

7:01 Nah, he's going to make, like, he's going to make you. He was so mentally disciplined. he's going to make you play defense all of the shot clock.

7:10 Oh, yeah. Yes. Right?

7:11 Which then becomes harder for you because you want to keep going back and forth.

7:16 He's like, nah, nah, nah.

7:18 We're going to make sure every pass is correct.

7:21 Right?

7:22 I'm going to only turn that bitch over one time tonight.

7:25 Right? And you're sitting there like, God damn.

7:27 But even with that thought process, that would make him in certain situations, like you said, teams would game plan for him to where He was holding that motherfucker too long just to get that precise exact.

7:39 So we stopped. Yeah, we stopped. So we kind of used it to our advantage. We shut down everybody else. Exactly. And be like, make him.

7:45 Make him score because he didn't have nobody else to get the ball to.

7:48 But it's like. Like Jamal Crawford was his only real guy. He'll bust your ass.

7:53 He'll bust your ass. But after a while, CP feel like.

7:57 I'm selfish. Like, he can't help it. Like, he likes his team involved. He likes... He play a team style of ball. He just do. He likes basketball to look correct. And if you make it incorrect to him... He's literally a coach. Straight up. If you look at him as coach's floor, you look at his team... After a while, he's blue. He's taking his suit off. He's mad. You look at some of his teams.

8:18 You'll be sitting there looking like, man, that nigga did a lot. Like, he did a lot with a little.

8:25 Oh, hell yeah. CB? He got some bullshit cards that time. He had some bullshit cards. A little?

8:32 You remember the OKC TV got to the playoffs? You'd be like, wait, this was supposed to be the down year.

8:38 That nigga had some bullshit. He had some bullshit. I ain't saying he ain't had names. Chris Paul? Bullshit.

8:43 I ain't saying he ain't had names. Boogie Doe.

8:46 Even the Lob City couldn't do the ball. The Clippers were fucking loaded. With what? Bullshit? You take him off the court. Listen up. They were sharp. No post plays. No post plays. Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. We'll go get the bucket, though. This is all we did. We're not going to sit here and say he didn't have shit.

9:07 That's it. Pick and roll. Think about it. That's what the NBA was. Pick and roll. No, no, no. Not when Blake came in.

9:16 What they had was he stood at the three-point line.

9:19 They do a pick and roll and For sure. That's it. But he also got to show his game. Like, pass it to the post, Blake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got Jamal Crawford on him. You got J.J. shooting the shit out of the ball. They had a squad.

9:31 At the end of a playoff game, you know like everybody else knows, who's turning their back and getting the bucket?

9:38 Not Blake Griffin. You couldn't give the ball to them. CP can't do it. You couldn't give the ball. Like, so CP had to. J.J. read it, couldn't create it. That's real. It wasn't that they wasn't good. It was like, we know what the championship pieces are.

9:49 Were they limited in their offense? He got two of the same players. We ain't going to sit.

9:54 Here and say he ain't have shit. That motherfucker had a score. No, he had toys to play with. That's what he said. He could make anything good. He a good player.

10:03 Like, when we said playoffs, I was looking at.

10:05 CP don't make everything good? Yes. Everybody going to eat. That's cool, but that's the problem.

10:11 He's feeding everybody to the point where it's handicapped because Blake.

10:16 But that's literally what I'm saying. It was to his design. That's how he won it. That's why he didn't win. If Blake would have went to the post. I just said we use what he does against him. He's going to hold that ball until he gets the game-winning assist.

10:33 That's all because I couldn't give it to him to go do it.

10:36 But that's what I'm saying. Jamal Crawford don't exist. Jamal Crawford was going to be the closer?

10:43 He was the only one who, but he was the only one who was totally fine with it.

10:45 No, no, no, no. He was going to need to stop. I'm talking about him with that. He had all they missed for him.

10:48 But remember, he's my sixth man. Now I got to keep the sixth man in. There's plenty of sixth men that finish the game. But what are we talking about? But we're talking about closing the game every single time.

10:57 Yes!

10:57 I want Jamal Carver closing the game.

10:59 Why didn't they do it? Great fucking question. I would have did it.

11:04 That's a great fucking question.

11:07 I don't know.

11:09 We're talking about having a closer on the team. We're talking about Jamal Crawford.

11:14 I agree with you. I agree with you. I never would have brought Jamal Crawford off the bench. I'm cool with bringing him off the bench. I'm not talking about him being my closer. But this is the difference, though.

11:25 If you want to bring him off the bench for defense purposes, for balance within the first unit, that's perfectly fine. But for us to sit here and try to convince me that the Clippers didn't have a closer, that's a cap.

11:36 No, no, no.

11:36 Remember, the game already played. No, the game is already played. They didn't have a closer because they wasn't using them.

11:42 That's what I'm saying. That's just dumb coaching. I could have sworn. So what do you have for it? But they did play me.

11:49 They didn't have it because they didn't use the game.

11:51 You wanted them to get to Jamal. Jamal Crawford ain't a set up guy. You don't set Jamal Crawford up. You give him the ball. Get the fuck out of the way. That's fine. One for flat.

11:58 They wasn't doing that. They wasn't doing that. Then they wasn't one. They wasn't one for flatting. When you say Jamal, I need to give Jamal the ball. It's called one-four-flat, Jamal. Put his ass in the corner on the wing and spot up. We're going to let James do what he do. It's the same thing with Jamal. Give him the ball.

12:18 Get the fuck out the way. Be ready to shoot if need be. What are we talking about?

12:22 I'm saying that's what made CP frustrated in Houston.

12:25 How is that all right? And that's the furthest he went. But that's the difference, though.

12:28 Rudy, remember, they knew that offense.

12:33 I think I'm mad. I'm not mad. I'm confused on what. You can't be confused. We already watched them play out. We already knew how they lost. I'm just only speaking on them having a close.

12:44 But the original conversation was he didn't have nothing on the team.

12:48 Yes. Then it went to he didn't have a close. I said there's been times that he didn't have the championship. And I'm trying to figure out where. Where? The Clippers didn't have it. Yes, he did. Who? He had everything with the Clippers. What I'm saying is... He had everything.

12:59 But shooters, closers, finishers, he had everything. Defender, he had a complete team. Hall of Fame coach with.

13:07 Doc, he had everything. You can't say you have everything if I'm not using it. At the end of the game... That's not my... At the end of the game... I'm.

13:14 Talking about on the outside looking in. He had every piece of it. No, he had every.

13:18 If they decided to use it or not, that ain't none of our business. So they didn't have it. Right. How they didn't have it? They just didn't use it. We're all sitting here.

13:25 Agreeing, is Jamal Crawford, could he be a closer on anything?

13:28 He could be a closer, yes. So we're all agreeing that they had a closer. Did they use it? No. That's not our decision. Nobody has used Jamal Crawford as their closer. This is Jamal's league right now. This league right here, but you got to remember, there's.

13:41 Some people that, like me and Jamal had.

13:44 These conversations and talks. Real talk. And he's looking at ball offers like, how'd you do it, nigga? I just went in and said 1-4 flat.

13:53 When he got to the Hawks, they gave him a little bit. When he was on the Clippers at the end of the game, he was yanking everybody.

14:00 But that wasn't the offense.

14:02 That wasn't Doc's offense, give it to my yanker and let him yank.

14:06 Nobody was really using their players like that.

14:08 I'm not disagreeing with all that. My argument was, you originally said Chris Paul didn't have certain things.

14:15 I'm just saying, his number two on the Clippers was Blake Griffin.

14:20 Who he couldn't get the ball to. The motherfuckers was top two in the West every year.

14:25 How can you sit here and say he don't have.

14:29 If you give Chris Paul you for the playoffs, it look different. That's true.

14:33 Because I could throw it into you at the end of the game for two possessions and you could just make something out of nothing, put a foul on a big.

14:40 Right. It's totally different. Blake couldn't do that. Same thing with the Suns.

14:44 I wasn't saying he didn't have game. I'm just saying we all know good and well who we could get a ball to. And it's like their end of the game percentage is elite.

14:52 Like if they had like Amari with the Suns. So the Suns was built the same way. Straight up. If Amari in New York. Was it Ari and the Suns? Yeah. Fucking different outcome. I think he was the same player. Oh! He could shoot it better. But shoot it better, and he started posting up. When his knee started... He had to move.

15:11 Now I got to sit here, and now I got to be compact. Sometimes when you're so athletic, you're like, I'm just jumping over everybody, so I'm not really thinking about.

15:18 The recklessness. I need to worry about posting up.

15:20 And my whole thing with that Clipper team was always, yo, Blake, you're so explosive. If you got closer to the rim here, they're forced to double. They're forced to double because you jump too high, you're too explosive.

15:35 So you're saying don't even pull it out off.

15:37 What do I need to sit here and do a pick and roll and you need to run from the full court every single time? Go down there, do this. Nigga, just turn and do this and then jump. It's the same shit, but now they're going to double you. Now once they double you, the guys who can't get it off the dribble and they got to catch a shoot.

15:52 It opens them up. Gravity of it. Just putting you in the post and you get that bitch ready. You turn and face, I'm coming to double. Gravity. Now it's boom, boom, JJ ready wide open.

16:02 So we're only talking about the Clippers team when it comes to... what the topic is.

16:06 What, you saying the New Orleans team had it? Yeah, shit, there too. Ooh, let's walk it through. David West, great guy you could throw the ball down to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. Tyson Chandler, lob threat, rim protect. Back tap. Pages Stojakovic, shoot the shit out the ball. I couldn't tell you. Willie Green at the two, shoot the shit out the ball. In the West? No end game.

16:26 I mean, that was... First of all, when I came into the league, there was only two teams. That means you got to outplay Melo.

16:33 No, no, no. There was two teams in the West. That's what you got to do in the West, bro. He was with them. The original conversation was.

16:41 When CP was in New Orleans, it was called the Lakers and it was called the Spurs.

16:48 That was it. What was CP... What was they seeded? I don't give a fuck.

16:52 I'm just going off of who the top threes and fours around that era.

16:55 This is what was in the West, where it's like you need a guy that can outscore Melo at the end of the game. You need a guy.

17:11 That can outscore Colby. I don't think Mellon was a thing then. I think it was, like he said, the Lakers. It was like Lakers, Spurs.

17:19 I'm just saying.

17:21 I'm just saying the caliber of player that you had to deal.

17:25 With at the three and four.

17:27 You have to have somebody that can go back and forth in a heavyweight swinging match.

17:31 Who's going to call the timeout? No, no, no.

17:33 You can't put David West again. No disrespect to David West. That's my dog. He used to, at the Players Association meetings, he kept doing the group economics thing.

17:42 Didn't understand that then. I understand it now.

17:46 But you had to have somebody that can do that. Who can go back and forth? You can't put that on David West to shoot turnarounds.

17:54 At the end of the game. He did it, but.

17:57 No, no, no. He did it, but you got to still like... Then it was guard play. That really... Unless you was a big that actually made free throws, right? No, no, but I'm saying if you was a big that made free throws.

18:10 He was more mid-post. He was more mid-post. We were just talking about a guy that could throw the ball down.

18:15 All I'm saying is he's had teams I'm not saying he had the best teams to match up with the best.

18:21 But you're saying he had teams to get out of the first round.

18:25 He had pieces around. First round, I said. He had valid pieces around. But he won with those pieces. I agree.

18:32 My argument was when you originally said CP did, it was somewhere around.

18:36 In Houston, if he didn't catch that hamstring, I don't remember which year it was.

18:41 The year before I went.

18:43 The year before the last one that he had in what you call it.

18:47 Yeah. when he pulled the hamstring, that year... He pulled hamstrings back-to-back years, didn't he? But that year, it looked like... They went to game seven.

18:57 Yeah, it looked like he was done with, like, all right, I think I finally figured this out.

19:01 Let's get over here. Yeah, yeah, I'm over the hill now.

19:03 Like, it did seem like that, where it was like, finally, they ain't gonna be able to say shit to this man, like, once he win.

19:08 Right. But... He had he caught the hamstring. And then it's like now his age. I kind of expect soft tissue shit. You know what I'm saying?

19:15 Like at that age, it just is what it is. So I couldn't put him over the hump in that regard. But it's like I can't say that CP had like even with James, James plays a totally different style basketball than what you need in the playoffs to win.

19:32 That's all fine. All I'm saying, my argument is... Was that he had good team? That motherfucker had good team. That's not a championship. But he won't... That's not what the argument was. I'm not arguing championship. My argument is... He originally said Chris Paul did... I can't say it for you.

19:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:48 He didn't have a good team, but... a lot with Little. He did. Yeah. At points and he did a lot with a lot too. He's had squads everywhere he went. You can't sit here and say a top three team in the West is Little. In the West? Without him. They're little.

20:06 But that's what he's saying. They was garbage. You get Chris Paul, now you're good.

20:11 Huh? So he was first in the West in 2007 with the Hornets. Yeah, trash. Third in 2010.

20:17 2007 with the Hornets? I don't know who the fuck was on that team, but they was not beating no Spurs. You don't know who was on your team, Gil. I knew who was on my team.

20:26 The niggas that had to pass me the ball the whole time. Like, I know my team. But you're talking about 2007.

20:33 You're talking about Utah just getting together, right? That's what Boozer and Okafor, yeah. Right, that's Phoenix Field. Dallas is still going. Mellow, I think, just got Allen Iverson.

20:49 Yeah, he cooking. Man, I don't give a.

20:50 Fuck what they were. They was not beating none of those teams. Those teams had legit two stars then.

20:59 But that's what I'm saying, Boogie. It's just a certain layout.

21:01 Houston just got, like, T-Mac just went there.

21:03 So, is it y'all and T-Mac's first year together? If you ain't had nobody that can has he pulled, you was in trouble. That's all fine.

21:09 That was good.

21:09 My argument is that motherfucker had a team. That's my only argument. Championship level team? No, I'm not saying that. But that's what he's saying.

21:17 Without Chris Paul, they was boo-boo, but with Chris Paul, they a playoff team.

21:22 He did a lot with little. A lot with a little.

21:24 We only got enough to be 30 games.

21:28 But we number one because Chris Paul is. This is Chris Paul's rookie season. They were second in what's number one in the South. Nigga, this is Chris Paul's rookie season? What? 2007? 07, 08.

21:39 That's not his rookie year.

21:41 They was in there in 03. I thought he was 03.

21:44 But they were first in Southwest, second in the Western Conference.

21:48 A year after? After, yeah, yeah. Chris Paul younger than Bronner? Yeah, a year. He's 41. No, but he was in college. Second in the West that season, first in the Southwest Division. Yeah.

22:01 Yeah, because Mello did one year of college. Got it, got it.

22:10 Yeah, I don't care about who's up there. You want to read the team out?

22:13 No. Okay.

22:14 No, what was they the year before they got Chris Paul?

22:17 What was their record? What was their record the year before they got Chris Paul? He was a top pick, so.

22:24 They were the Bobcats back then, right?

22:27 No, they were still the Pelicans. Oh, shit. They had BD before that. Their record wasn't shit. You get Chris Paul.

22:35 I'm not saying Chris Paul is great, bro.

22:37 That's a lot with a little, though. That's not true. You can't sit here and tell me Blake Griffin is a little. DeAndre Jordan. DeAndre Jordan got first. You just said, I'm only talking about the Clippers.

22:47 DeAndre Jordan got first in all NBA over me.

22:49 You can sit here and tell me that he ain't have shit. He had a first in all NBA center. He had an all-star power forward. Without CP? He had six more NBA centers. They won 18 games the year before he got there. They won 18 and then Chris Paul get there. 38. Come on, man. They went from 18 to 38.

23:08 If you can make 20 games go up in the NBA.

23:12 You're pretty fucking good. So let me say it one more time. Chris Paul a bad motherfucker. Because he did a lot with a little. That ain't true.

23:19 That part ain't true. That part ain't true. Chris Paul a bad motherfucker.

23:24 All I'm saying is why DeAndre Jordan was all NBA with him and then without.

23:30 Him, hmm. Making them look good? You got to make it look good.

23:37 That's a lot with a little. I'm not disrespecting anybody's game.

23:40 You're talking about one guy.

23:42 You brought up DeAndre Jordan being All-NBA.

23:45 Because that means something. You brought it up. But that still means something. You can't sit here and say that's a little. You said that was one guy. Name another guy.

23:51 But Blake Griffin, a six-man of the year. Jamal Crawford, one of the best shooters in the league.

23:56 J.J. Redick. Jamal Crawford did that everywhere he went. So, yeah. So, the point I'm trying to make, he had a team.

24:03 If he did that everywhere he went, how can you sit here and discredit Jamal when he joined CP?

24:09 You just said he'd do it everywhere he goes. You know what I'm saying?

24:11 So now when he was CPR, it's a little around here.

24:13 The Hall Crawford is a different ballgame.

24:16 Everybody I just named is somebody of substance, brother.

24:21 You're not going to sit here and say. That's what I'm saying.

24:23 We never seen at the end of games anybody give Jamal Crawford the ball, get that fuck out the way, and go through the playoffs.

24:30 And that's cool. They should have. That's fine.

24:32 Maybe they should have, and maybe the Clippers would have had a different result.

24:35 I get it.

24:36 The maybe, I get it. All I'm saying is we never saw it. If you would have set Chris Paul up.

24:41 You're not going to sit here and tell me Chris Paul ain't have a good team around him.

24:46 I'm not saying he didn't have good teams. He didn't have champions anyway.

24:50 Okay, Atlanta Hawks was number one in the West, but what does that mean? You're a good regular season team, but you're not built in the playoffs when that court shrinks. So me playing team basketball, me playing team basketball through the game, we watch the Spurs. You're playing team basketball, you lose to a guy who's playing by himself. Not by himself, but we're saying we're going to give it to our guy who manipulates the game one-on-one. This game, at the end of the game, there's only a few teams that can play five-on-five, playing team shit, and everybody will use Detroit, not realizing.

25:31 Chauncey was a one-on-one player. Rip Hamilton can go one-on-one.

25:35 And Rasheed was a one-on-one player.

25:38 He was a one-on-one player. Like, real talk, get the fuck out the way. Get out the way. I got all this. But we're going to play until I'm a team. I'm just saying, every championship team has it. I'm not talking about it.

25:50 I don't think y'all hearing what the fuck I'm saying. I never said this nigga had a championship team. My argument is he ain't never had a bum ass team. He said he did a lot with a little. That statement in itself.

26:04 Is not true.

26:05 You cannot say he has a little around him when you have a first team all NBA center, an all-star power four.

26:12 And a six man of the year, and a top three shooter on your team. That ain't a fucking little. That's a lot, nigga. It's a little if I'm making you those.

26:21 Look.

26:22 The fucking Dallas marriage.

26:23 Had this nigga kidnapped in the house because he's somebody about you try to do that's a bum ass niggas in his league are you saying we ain't.

26:51 Are you making it because of our team record or are we making it because of your actual stats?

26:58 That's a very different topic. I don't give a fuck.

27:00 Kyle Coover is not an all-star even though he's an all-star. He's not an all-star because he's not playing the game like an all-star.

27:09 I'm sorry. Straight up, though. But I'm sorry. You love to act like that. No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is, what about his name? All-Star. He's an All-Star.

27:16 Okay, but we're going to say, but we know the difference. One of the highest three-point positions ever. Are you an All-Star every year because of you? Are you an All-Star because.

27:25 Of your team and your team win? There's a very difference.

27:29 So if someone say, yo, this team, Jeff Teague got these niggas, he got him an All-Star. He can't say, no, I didn't make them. Then why didn't you make it every other year?

27:39 Because you can't.

27:39 Do it by your team got you that all-star.

27:42 Not your fucking play. Hey, I'm with you. Not your fucking play. Your play. There's a difference between all-stars. No, everybody can't be right.

27:51 We always look at a team like this.

27:54 Blake Griffin was an all-star before CP ever even got there.

27:57 Yeah.

27:58 So we're not going to sit here and say this is dumb ass shit. I said that. But we're not saying. Blake Griffin was the number two. Which is fine.

28:04 So how can you sit here and say it's a little and you have to listen?

28:08 Multi-time all-star next to you. He made them before. Everybody's limited in their game. Everybody's limited. It ain't no such thing as a perfect player.

28:18 Everybody's limited in some way, shape, or form.

28:21 Again, you're thinking a limit, a cap on his ability. We're talking about a coach and the system and what y'all running and.

28:28 If it's gear for you to do it.

28:30 And it was brilliant because they were top three in the West every year.

28:33 We don't care who top. Listen, though. Listen up. You got to be top in the West. In the playoffs. We don't really care who's top of shit. We're not talking about playoffs. That's all we talk about.

28:44 My argument since we have started this is you cannot say.

28:49 Chris Paul ain't have good teams.

28:51 All this other shit y'all talk about, I don't know why because I.

28:54 Never say anything about that. You cannot sit here and convince me this nigga ain't have help on his teams. What the fuck are we talking about? Did LeBron have good teams? Huh? Did LeBron have a good team? What the fuck we talking about? No, no, no.

29:08 What I'm saying is because when he left, when that one person left, we see what the team was, right? So there is a thing where this guy is making everybody look good.

29:19 You ain't going to compare a one-on-one to Chris Paul.

29:20 I'm just saying if this guy is making everybody look good as a team, he's putting this dish together with the limited resources that they can do.

29:30 I don't have a big man that can post up. I don't have a one.

29:33 The guy that can create it, they're not playing him like that.

29:36 So he can shoot, can't dribble. He can shoot, can't dribble.

29:39 I can't pass it to him in the post. I can't pass it to him in the post. He adds the value to people. Like Chris Paul could get you paid. That's what a point guard is supposed to do.

29:49 Without a doubt. We're saying he does that really well. That means you ain't that good. We weren't saying. That's what a point guard is supposed to do. But that means you ain't that good. If my point guard is making you look good, there's a reason him and James Harden. That's incorrect, though. There's a reason him and.

30:02 James Harden because James Harden's like, I don't need you to make me.

30:05 Just give me the ball, shorty.

30:06 Just give it to me.

30:07 Just give it. Let me do my thing. Right? Same thing with Kobe. Just give me the ball, guy. Real talk.

30:14 I don't need you to sit here and pick and roll.

30:18 Come on over here. There's a reason. So what's the argument again? So you're telling me.

30:23 That CP can make a lot with a little.

30:26 Somebody that hasn't figured it out yet. So everywhere CP's been, it's been a little. That's what y'all telling me. I didn't say. Why are you changing the quote? That's what it's been the whole time. No, not... He said he has had... I don't even remember. I'm just being honest.

30:44 I'm just arguing with you because this is the first time you got to get going.

30:51 So I'm going to keep it going, motherfucker. Hey, I ain't going to lie to him.

30:55 When he said that one part, he said, I've been there.

30:59 And that's health. That nigga got me. Trust me. Trust me. That's what you triggered him. That triggered him. I was like, boogie. I know what it look like, man. I know what it look like. I had to, bro. That nigga had a good team. I had to. So you said you had the bad team. Y'all got me fucked up over here, bro.

31:19 I couldn't pass it to nobody.

31:21 Ain't no way you convincing me Buddy ain't had no help shitting me.

31:25 Because you was in the West looking like, man, I just want a little bit. I wish I just had a little bit. Yeah, let me give you a little bit. That's all I need, just a little bit. Fuck out of here. I ain't got no help. He's like, just give me a shooter. Give me a shooter. Shit. I'll take Cal Corp.

31:42 Ladies and gentlemen, if you appreciated that.

31:46 What about that fee you get? Give me the ball, Corp.

31:49 That nigga started looking at his roster like, fuck.

31:52 It, give me CP too, nigga. I'll help the niggas.

31:54 Ladies and gentlemen, if you appreciated that very spirited discourse, if you appreciated Boogie.

31:59 Sweating, Gil sweating, jump on the verge of sweating, a sweat tickling down my cheek.

32:04 Go ahead and hit that like button. Hit that like button if you wrote Gills Arena is back.

32:09 Y'all said y'all wanted this shit.

32:12 This is what y'all said y'all wanted, Chad.

32:14 Turn it up, y'all.

32:15 Fuck it. This is what y'all said y'all wanted. Basketball discourse. Fiery spirit in the bank. My boy went back to PTSD.

32:22 My boy like, man, he got that brown paper bag in his head all of a sudden.

32:28 The brown paper bag massage envy coupon. The coupon. The coupon. from the back. Thank you, man. My boy went back to say, no, a cold cut is a big time. Real meals. Cold cut, no condiments. No condiments. Cold cut. Cold cut. Niggas having Subway with no condiments. No mayonnaise, no mustard, nothing. Just dry, man. Hell no. I'm going to be real. We had a lot of other shit.

32:57 I want you to know the whole camp, we love you dawg. We love you dawg. That was good. That's my CP. Shout out to CP. Once he started going, I'm just like, well, fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it up. I knew when that nigga started reading this chat like this. Nigga started reading the chat. Oh, this is good shit.

33:19 The chat thrives on negativity. We have some other things to discuss.

33:22 But honestly, that CP3 conversation, probably the best thing that we're going to get out of this show today. It is preseason, ladies and gentlemen. We're already turnt up. In playoff mode. But it's time to try and finesse some bread on Polymarket. This is Put That On Something. We're going to give you a trade on the Polymarket app.

33:37 You've got to pick a side and put that on something. So Thunder looking to bounce back from the Western Conference Finals exit this past season. For the past two seasons, OKC's had the best record in the league, winning 64 games last season, 68 games in their championship season in 2025. But let's take a look at Polymarket right now. and see that the Thunder are the current favorite to make it a regular season trifecta, with 49% of traders picking them to have the best record again this season, while 63% of traders think a new team will take over the top spot in the league. But let's take it to the couch. We'll start with you, Boogie. Yeah, you heard that.

34:12 What do you think, CP3? Who would CP3 pick?

34:15 No, I'm just kidding. Shout out CP, man.

34:18 Will the Thunder have the best record in the league this season once again, third straight year?

34:22 I'm going to say yes. And the reason I say yes is because of that new addition that they just drafted. I feel like they went and got a 10-year vet straight out of Michigan. He's everything they've been missing. Obviously, it's putting pressure on certain individuals that's already there. That's how this business works. But as far as OKC, they're ahead of the curve. Sam Presley, probably the most impressive GM I've ever seen in this business as far as just consistency, always finding the way out of the, I guess you could say bottom.

34:54 He's seen it. He's seen some of the top talent.

34:57 He's done it to where he has to basically go through a restart, re-find all that talent. He's found multiple franchise pieces. He's done everything correctly that you're looking for in a GM, and I think he's continuing to do so. And like I said, with this new piece with the young fella out of Michigan, I don't want to.

35:15 Butcher his name, but Amar. Aday Amar. Aday Amar.

35:19 Super incredible player already at this young age. Like he, he brings kind of a old school feel with the big man, as far as the rim running, the lob ability, being able to protect the rim. But he also brings that modern day game as far as the skill set, being able to finish around the rim, the shooting ability, uh, and just playing in this modern day, you know, uh, positionless basketball type of game.

35:43 So, uh, I think he's the perfect combination.

35:46 And then you think about the challenge that OKC ran into this past season, and that was Wimby. So you now match– and I don't want to– it's too early to say he's the guy that can answer that question for Wimby. But as of what I've seen right now– He's a factor right away.

36:02 He's a factor.

36:03 And not only is he a factor in the sense of obviously he can play the game, but he's now creating a challenge for Wimby.

36:12 You have to play this way. Which is also another way of playing. Like, Wimby can.

36:15 Kind of go out there and roam and be that free kind of free defense. Now it's a real threat out there that you're going to have to go.

36:22 Like, lock in. Yeah, you ain't finna be guarding four people.

36:25 The same thing you kind of brought up with Draymond when it came to Ben. Like, usually Draymond's that roamer, can be that quarterback in the backfield. Wimby ain't going to be able to do that because he's got to stay locked in on big time.

36:35 It's a new Franco-Spanish war. He's going to eat up that space.

36:38 And I think the difference between the two is, obviously, it's kind of a similar build as far as the frame and the height. But it's a difference in mindset, and I think the young fella plays with a bit more physicality. So I think that's kind of where that matchup is going to be. I need to tune in to this. I need to see what's going to happen between these two.

37:00 Because it may birth Wimby to show us something.

37:03 You feel me?

37:04 I think it's kind of a domino effect.

37:06 Like, oh, I might have to get a little better with my body, my strength, my physicality. I might have to go down here and play a little more.

37:12 I might have to understand inside the paint a bit more than I did before this kid arrived. So I'm looking at it in that aspect.

37:21 I'm excited for this matchup.

37:23 Obviously this was a move to kind of correct something that they felt was a weakness in the playoffs against Wimby. So, uh, I'm excited for this kid. Uh, I think he's the extract. I think he's the difference maker with this OKC group. We already know what they got with, you know, Shay and the, and the supporting cast, but this new puzzle piece changes their entire identity.

37:42 So, uh, I think that's the biggest difference as far as this OKC group. So let's stay number one, guilt. Let's shift over to you.

37:48 Will the Thunder have the best record in Adam Silver's National Basketball Association this season?

37:53 Yes.

37:54 I think we already had a veteran team that's been number one for two straight years. Added the big dude, and it added B and B. Was it Bennett and Brooks?

38:09 Bennett, Sturtz. Sturtz. And there's Brooks.

38:14 They're the one who's taking about 20-something shots.

38:17 They're getting buckets.

38:19 They already got the light-skinned boys.

38:22 Yeah, so there's two guys.

38:24 I know one's Bennett, and then there's another one, a little bit taller, who's putting that.

38:29 Up, too.

38:30 So you got two guys who offensively adds to Shea. that's going to help spread the floor and keep the floor spread.

38:37 Or Barnheiser. Who? Barnheiser. Yeah. But they can handle. Yes. They can get other people.

38:42 Yeah, so just adding those two pieces. Yeah, you lose door, you lose toughness, grittiness, but.

38:47 You add a lot more offense. And youth. You can run all day. I'm going to take them. I'm going to take them. I think Thunder will have the best record in the NBA. I like them for the regular season.

39:03 Like he said, they're Their scout team, whoever goes and watches these guys in college, and, you know, of course they got to thank the Clippers for all them picks. But you still got to do something with the picks.

39:16 Facts.

39:17 You still got to put together a player development team.

39:20 Whatever they're doing over there, it works really well.

39:23 So he's hired the perfect collection of people to take care of them. And they don't do enough to, like, disturb winning the only thing that could disturb them is injuries like they just I've never seen a team like they compete and everything but it's like they not mad at each other success like their competitive nature is just wired different like most people After year two, it's like, man.

39:48 I sacrificed the first year. I need to be shooting guard one over this motherfucker. I don't know. You know what I mean?

39:55 It's only so often you can get a whole team to all hang out at an interview.

40:01 Especially when you got a two-time MVP.

40:02 It's like nobody else can really blossom into Batman and everybody cool with it.

40:07 That's rare. Most people win and then it's like next year I want to be. I want to.

40:13 But is that because Batman is giving them a recognition?

40:18 Instead of taking it all for himself. No, he's just giving them Rolexes and shit. I mean, but you know, but think about it, like doing an interview. He doing that, anybody else ain't doing it. You know what I'm saying? It's not. It's different. It's different.

40:29 When you were the player of the game, the star player does his interview. He's the only one that involves everybody every single time. So there's no, you're not going to push us against each other. So from the beginning, before he was MVP, when he did his interview, he's bringing all of them.

40:47 He set the tone early. What you want to talk about? What y'all want to talk about? Winning the MVP, what y'all want to talk about? What y'all want to talk about? So the success, they're coming along with it. They feel like they MVP'd. Yeah, they feel like MVP'd too.

40:58 So you don't get that one dude like, y'all till above.

41:02 Think about it. They feel like they MVP'd. The fuck they don't. If Braun did that, if Braun did that. I love Braun. When he MVP'd, he MVP'd.

41:11 No, if Braun did that with Kyrie, because he changed.

41:15 If he did that with Kyrie. It don't matter. When we're doing interviews and.

41:18 Him and Kyrie, that's my little bro, he doing his stuff, it changes him.

41:22 No, that irritates people. No. Don't little bro me on the interview.

41:25 No, it ain't no little bro me. You giving me the credit that I'm out there doing. I'm hitting game winners. I hit a game winner. Y'all go see him first.

41:31 He had 41-2. What you mean credit? Man, y'all go see him first. What credit? Y'all go see him first. I was there. I know. Y'all go see him first. That works great. No. Go to Bron Locker with the media. No, no, no. I want space to get changed. But we know who the MVP is.

41:47 Y'all, you know, when they come in there.

41:50 See who y'all going to first. That was it. You played on the team to see that. Everybody. You played on that team. Everybody. I know as soon as LeBron comes out the shower, they've been a swarm.

42:03 Yeah.

42:04 And I got time now. I don't have to look up to see who. I don't care how much K-Love had. K-Love had 82. You remember that game K-Love had like 30 in the first quarter? You want to know who they went up to? LeBron. How you think I was? LeBron, LeBron, LeBron. We didn't have to sit there and look around. That's what I'm saying.

42:21 If they wouldn't have K-Love a couple times first, he'll feel better about himself.

42:26 That's all I'm saying. Come to me. Yeah, I did. Hey, yo. Nobody got nothing? Hey, love, don't even want to talk to them, man. Try to hit his 30 and go home. We out of here. You want to talk to a nigga that don't want to talk to me? No, this is nuts. Some people don't want that. I'm just saying that's not a factor. It is.

42:44 There's no way you think Alex Caruso over there caring if he in the interview or not.

42:49 He don't give a fuck. Caruso, man of the people. He's going to run through a wall anyway.

42:54 I'm talking about number two and number three.

42:55 You're talking about who? They care. Chet? They care. J-Dub? They care. You think J-Dub care? Yes.

43:02 J-Dub had his first sip of alcohol after they won, bro.

43:06 What that mean? These kids, boy.

43:09 They don't go out.

43:10 They don't give a fuck. They don't watch us. So sober niggas don't care?

43:14 I just don't think you realize how much they don't watch us or care.

43:17 Like, they don't even know niggas is saying that. Think about when teams break up.

43:20 When your superstar acts like he cares about his surrounding group, it does something for the group.

43:25 Make you feel good. Aw. Make you feel good.

43:29 I guarantee if Bron came in there acting towards an act like an asshole or Kyrie came acting like an asshole towards you every day.

43:35 If Braun came and said, when I do my interview, y'all should all come up and sit around me, I'd.

43:40 Be like, Shorty, you ain't got to do that. Don't do that. I ain't talking about that part. Don't blame me. I got kids, too. We're going to all interview together. We're not going to fake that. I ain't talking to you, Shorty. Like, I want to go home. I might want to sit here for an extra hour with you. Not on the court.

43:52 With great talent comes great responsibility.

43:54 It's camaraderie, bro. That's all I'm saying.

43:56 I love Shorty.

43:57 We at his Halloween party. I'm all up there. I'm just saying it worked because they won. I'm just saying we won without doing interviews together. Speaking of Halloween parties. Maybe you would have won another one if you did. You know why. Don't even go there. Let's go, motherfucker. Let's talk about something. Let's turn you up now, motherfucker.

44:18 This is a boogie episode. Tell me why, nigga. Tell me why I bothered. This is a boogie episode.

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44:46 We have to end the show a little early today. Got some things to do, but let's go to Mostly Fans. We'll see if we can. We're not going to waste the green screen. Every chance we get. Shout out to the chat. Let me put my reading glasses on.

45:04 Good. Stunning my vision. Very intense day here in the arena. We appreciate y'all. I like having y'all on the couch.

45:09 All right, let's get to it. So we had a question from yesterday that I said I would get to. It was from at muff to official said, should the Spurs do the unthinkable and trade for Chet, but also sign Bobo next season?

45:25 Also, should the NBA take technical fouls out of the game?

45:28 Should those only be used for physical altercations and not rim hangs or taunts?

45:32 You know what? I'm thinking with Chet and Bobo, all seven foot starting line.

45:37 Anytime there was a rule change and they wanted a rule change, I always didn't like the non-aggressive technical fouls, hanging on the rim, something like that. And that counts against you as if it was aggressive. Like, if I hung on the rim and you gave me that, and I get aggressive when I'm out the game, like, wait, hold on. I don't like that one.

45:58 So I believe in that one. Bobo, I love Bobo, so I want him in the NBA. Me too. Bobo should definitely be in the league. Real talk. Like, where else do you get that?

46:07 I mean, if I'm the Spurs, though, OKC's not doing that deal, to answer your question.

46:13 Definitely not handing you him. No, what team is. And where will Bobo play? Like young, like young mentally.

46:22 It's either a Spurs organization because they understand youth.

46:29 Or a veteran team. Bobo? Yeah. Bobo.

46:35 The prophecy will be fulfilled. At this point, I think it would be a veteran team. It could be a young team.

46:39 You know what I'm saying? Fuck no.

46:45 I was trying to be like, okay, you can put him over in Boston, but He might break them more.

46:51 Yeah, Detroit. He needs care. Detroit. Detroit would be a good spot. He got care over there? It's cloth over there. He need that cloth. I need tough care. No, but you know, there's some people. He got the finesse. There's some people that's. He need the cloth. I got to give you the reward. Golden State actually wants that. I got to give you the reward.

47:11 For you to see, you're going to get rewarded over here for you to go run through the wall. Sometimes they make us earn it, and I'm like, sometimes you might have to give a guy.

47:20 Something to, you know what I mean?

47:22 Like, yo, I need to, you know, Bobo, hey, you're going to go out there, you're going to play 30 tonight.

47:28 Oh, yeah. Yeah, he'll be like, what? Oh, shit. To where you can show me your whole game. He tours Achilles, right? I don't know. He had to have some sort of. I think he tours Achilles in the Philippines. Oh. Bobo. Damn, Bobo. It's some type of injury. Damn, man. Who said Golden State? No.

47:46 I actually think that wouldn't be bad. When you think about him in a Przingis-type role? We've seen what he did with the last one.

47:52 What role is Przingis in? You're right. He ain't playing. We've seen what AK-5 my boy right now. Yeah, partial Achilles tendon turn. The last four, he kind of threw it to the wolf. Damn, Bobo. Prayers up for Bobo.

48:04 We got another comment from Keith Barnes, X97, said, Why isn't Boston the mecca of basketball? I mean, look at the rafters. By the way, not a Boston fan. Haven't been since Ray, Truth, KG. We talked about Madison Square Garden, New York being the Mecca of basketball. Boston wants to know why they're not the Mecca of basketball. Because it's New York.

48:23 Well, yeah, Madison Square Garden wasn't the Mecca. New York was the Mecca, the city. But New York, the Mecca.

48:30 But we're talking about Madison Square Garden and New York. No, no, no, no, no. That's the biggest stage on earth. Yeah, it's the biggest stage. But the Mecca of basketball. It used to be New York. New York being the Mecca of basketball.

48:40 And my question back to him is, why do you think Boston would be there before Chicago?

48:47 I think banners, potentially. None of them niggas is from Boston. Yeah, there's a bunch of niggas from everywhere. From Boston?

48:54 Yeah, you can go put a team together anywhere. Michael Jordan wasn't from Chicago, but we still get the banners. I'm just talking about Chicago. Yeah, if you go around taking Chicago high school.

49:02 And first of all, them 17 championships is rigged anyway.

49:06 It was a different time. It was a different time. You can't be mad at them. They was born back then. They going through racism still busting ass.

49:14 No, no, no.

49:14 That's a hard chip. It's a lot of niggas. They wouldn't have been able to do it. Smeared doo-doo on walls and bed sheets. What? Just one. Just him. Bill Russell. So what? Who went on to sponsor Georgia Tech. Russell Affleck. See? See, it's the jokes. But, but, but. See what I'm saying? Nigga always got it so jammed. I can't tell niggas my real life. You in the chat. I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you. Shout out to the chat. What Georgia Tech sponsored by? Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson and them. One of their kids. Russell Athletics is a very, very, very impactful brand in the sporting community. Thank you. Russell is heavy.

49:54 I ain't never heard of a school being smart about Russell.

49:58 That's innovative. Y'all took us off the schedule. Y'all scared?

50:03 I'm going to give you a Boston Celtics.

50:05 I'm going to give you a Boston Celtics stat.

50:07 Before Bill Russell got drafted, the year before, they had three all-stars on the team. Two first-team all-NBA players. One was third in voting and MVP, and one was fifth. They had the number one pick in the draft, right? And then they got Bill Russell at the number two pick. So they got the number one and the number two pick of the draft. So Russell got to San Francisco and then got traded there. It was already pre-organized. So they got the number one and the number two added to the team. His rookie year, this is what they had.

50:42 Rookie of the year, two first-team All-NBAs, three All-Stars, and an MVP.

50:50 So you mad at him. And Russell was not none of them. But you mad at him for that. He was none of them. But you mad at him. No, you heard the stats? I don't give a fuck. No, no, think about the stats. That's what be wild. That don't change his ring collection. No, what I'm saying is he was none of them. Why you care about the stats now?

51:04 No, what I'm saying is, no, what I'm saying is, think about what I'm saying. All that, just the MVP, all that, all them stats, he didn't win one of those stats. So?

51:12 That's how rigged it was. That's not rigged? That's not rigged? They gonna say it's rigged every year for some other reason, bro. You still gotta go out there and win. Same reason you get mad at King. What?

51:26 Who?

51:26 You. No, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait. All right, all right. Let's know. Let's know. I need everybody to understand this. Wait, wait. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait.

51:38 You telling me you have the number three in MVP voting and the number five in MVP voting and didn't get.

51:45 The number one and the number two pick in the draft? What? Listen. Can I lay in? No. Nigga, I don't know how you're going to land. I'm going to land. This is water.

51:57 The problem I had, listen up, and the problem I had, I never said KD ain't a champion in the finals MVP.

52:03 You can't. What'd you say?

52:04 I said my issue with him is that he didn't have to do that.

52:09 He could have did it in OKC.

52:12 If KD got drafted to the Warriors after they.

52:16 Won, we wasn't going to say shit. But he didn't get drafted. They didn't rig it for him. He walked over there. They called him. They called him. They called him. They called Bill too. Hey, we're drafting you, Bill. That's weird, right?

52:31 No, he didn't get drafted there. He got drafted to San Francisco. They already had an under the table deal. Number one and a two pick. And back then, they didn't have free agencies.

52:41 Hey, all I'm saying is Bill Russell did not get called by the Boston Celtics and say, do you want.

52:47 To leave your already.

52:49 championship ready team over there and then come over here.

52:54 That's not what happened. Hey, listen, we got the number one.

52:56 We got the number one pick and we got this one.

52:59 And I don't want y'all to feel like, I don't like when people keep doing it because y'all keep bringing it back.

53:03 To KD in this situation. I had one problem.

53:07 Because you went back to back. You could have went to back. No, you could have went back to back. You said it didn't matter who they got.

53:12 It's your job to go out there and win. You changed the trajectory. In your words. Y'all are forgetting, I got traded the year after that. We don't care what happened. You said. I'm saying the second ring. You said it don't matter who's out there. You got to go out there and win.

53:25 I was out of two rings because of him, for sure. The first ring, I wasn't even on the court. Kyle Korver was on the court most of the time. Me and JR and Kyle Korver all kind of got the angry eyes at each other because it's like, nigga, ain't no basketballs over here.

53:39 You know what I'm saying?

53:40 But they went and got firepower to deal with KD's firepower.

53:45 I'm like, we didn't win like this.

53:47 They like, we don't give a fuck what you talk about, Sean. So my issue with K was a personalized for that stint. But I'm like, I don't need niggas thinking like KD's championships don't matter. I'm like, no, I'm telling you why I was mad. I know why Russ was mad. We was all mad for the same reason. It's like, I ain't going to sugarcoat that shit. Nigga, that changed my career.

54:05 I'd have still been in the Cavs uniform as far as I'm concerned. Like we would have had the winning team. Y'all got to figure it out over there. We now have the Warriors. We figured it out. They're going to have to add a piece. We wasn't thinking that piece. You'll usually get two queens in the chessboard.

54:22 They would have got two queens for the chessboard. Like, nigga. I think it's blamed on the timing, just like Bill Russell. That's what I'm saying. I'm just saying. It's blamed on the timing, just like Bill Russell. No, it's not the timing. That was a decision. Based on the timing.

54:37 The way Steph's contract set up, the way everybody else around there was set up, they had the.

54:42 Ability to go call and say, we want you on this team.

54:46 Y'all want to stay on there. They're playing devil's advocate. I get it. It's the same shit. No, it's not. It is. It's not. It is. It's not the same. You know it's not the same. The reason I say it's the same, because of the statement you said. What? At the end of the day, we got to go out there and win the game. Without a doubt. Who on the floor? You said that. Bill Russell had his time to leave Boston. Where did he go play? Why would you leave Boston? Exactly. Why would KD leave OKC?

55:11 That was the question.

55:13 I got the number one, number two, got the MVP, the fifth in voting. This is like Kobe and Shaq the year they was third and fifth, and then they get the number one and the two pick. They get LeBron James and somebody on the team. You think them niggas is losing anytime soon?

55:29 I have Shaq. Getting drafted is one thing, though. But where you get drafted?

55:33 Well, what I'm saying is I already have a top team.

55:36 I ain't going to lie. I'm sorry niggas got drafted where they got drafted.

55:40 I would have loved to got drafted on a team that was terrible so that I could get up 30 shots a game.

55:46 Figure out what I like to do. Wait, you got drafted by the Knicks?

55:48 Yeah.

55:49 Get a ball to mellow and get a ball to stack. What the fuck is up with Shump? What do you mean your development, Shump?

55:55 What?

55:56 We got a new coach next year, Shump. We didn't win last year. Fuck your development, nigga.

56:01 Yeah, my bad. Yeah, I could have got some development. I ain't get it. I change my position every year to whatever we need it. It just is what it is. Everybody get dragged. Everybody's situation different. I'm just saying Bill Russell walked into that. He didn't choose it. He chose it. Back then they got to choose. You didn't get to choose where you go to play basketball. Then? I'm not playing in San Francisco. I'm going to go over here. Oh, no.

56:24 You can influence. Yeah. You don't get to decide. They can say, I don't care where you want to play. Come right here. You didn't notice everybody, every.

56:32 Good player on all the other teams that was losing all ended up in Boston? Why do you think they got everybody Jersey? They was taking all the stars.

56:41 All I'm saying is y'all not finna compare Bill Russell getting drafted to Boston to KD leaving and joining the Golden State.

56:46 No, that's not what we're trying to do. That's exactly what you're saying. I was just saying it was rigged. We just saying it was rigged.

56:52 That was mostly fans. That was mostly fans. Presented by Gil's Arena. You know how I get. You know how I get.

57:03 I don't know.

57:08 I don't know.

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