🎙️ JUAN JOSÉ PEREA: FC Porto, Griechenland & die grossen Ziele mit dem FCZ

Also, ich rede so mit deiner Schuhe zu reden.

Yes, hallo?

Okay. Und spiel die Schuhe jetzt mit Farbe und alles. Okay, und ich muss meine Kollegen was in Sie. Wir machen Deutsch. No, no problem. Ich habe mich vorbereitet, Bruder. Machen wir mal on. Machen wir mal ready. Mike sind jetzt bei allen funktionieren. Erik, sag nur noch einmal. Ja, okay. Sehr gut. Danke für den Applaus.

Genau, ich fange mit dem Intro. Weil ich keine Musik mit der Nähe. Was haben wir Schweizertüch? Mach ein Ruf Hochdeutsch, oder? Hochdeutsch. Oder wir machen von Anfang an Englisch, dann haben wir mehr Audience.

Okay. Fit for me too. Yeah. You can speak Greek, bro. We can do Greek.

Okay. Other than function of Miach. Good. Ready. Okay, also. Guys, welcome back to the channel. Welcome back to Grounded. We are here for the third episode of uh Grounded, the podcast, and we have a very special location and a very special guest today. I have to read this because I prepared this. Um he did win.

No, wait, um, he did win the Weva Youth League with FC Porto. Um, he plays for FC Zurich currently. Um, he he speaks perfect Greek, and I would never want to go in uh in a 1v1 versus him. And um yeah, we are in the kitchen basically of none other than Juan José Perea.

Welcome, guys. Thank you very much for the invitation. Of course, we're looking forward to have you here. It's an honor to be here again and to join you again, Terry. Thank you. My friend, thank you for the trickle. It's been special. I feel so so uh thanksful and and thank you.

And I will find the Ronaldo shirt for him.

Yes, first I wanna I want to introduce uh Eric as well because uh I'm back. He's back, he was in the first uh episode, right? Yeah with Nadine, yes. Nadine, yes, he was there, and for the second one he had to go on the bench, and now he's back in. Yeah, and yeah, as as Juan said, um I sent Juan the link of Coleira FC, the page, and uh you went for the Ronaldo El Gordo shirt, but it was already sold out.

Legends, but that's why you're sitting in this jersey now.

Yeah, I told you to choose which it fits me more as a player, yes, and you choose it's good, huh? I think Rooney Rooney fits me a little bit.

Yes, it's good, bro. It's good, and also the colors of the of the shirt are amazing. The fit is also perfect, yeah.

It looks great, and Ronaldo is already sold out? Yeah, it was already gone, but I will search for another one for you.

Okay, I wait for my phenomenal shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have to come back for a second episode after. Bro, I want to know um because I introduced you um that you speak perfect Greek. How does this work? Like why where do you get this from?

Okay, no, I I actually have a talent with the languages. Yeah, I speak proper five languages. Five? Yeah. So I think it's because I used to play in Greece many years, and I also have a kid in Greece. Uh but I love Greek people. Uh, I I live a lot of good moments there, so I really try to make myself to learn the language so I can understand perfectly what they wanna tell me, what they wanna say to me.

And that's why. But do you feel like this is something you do in with every station or every club you go to? You try to integrate into the culture because I uh obviously we know each other from F to Zurich, and I also know you speak German, for example. Yeah, so is this something you do with every club you you go to?

Yeah, I think it's for from my side is one uh it's important to learn the language I am working with because I really want to understand them the what they are telling to me, what they are speaking about, because I like to be also a positive part in every in every team. So yes, I speak actually the languages from the teams I have played, and I speak very, very, very good.

And he also speaks very very good German. So we were chilling with him the last two hours, I guess, and it's really good. Thank you guys, isn't really nice.

But this is also, I feel like in today's culture there the players they move clubs so quickly, and they don't really try to get into the culture because it's like I'm a half a year there and then I'm gone again, you know. So they not they're not even trying to integrate, but for you it's different.

So I mean for me it's more I do it for myself because I like to learn, I I like to study, I I really like to get into new things, and that's why. You actually I saw a picture on Instagram.

You did you did like a degree or something?

Yes, I just graduate from my degree and make uh sport management. Crazy.

So after after the career, you're gonna be manager.

We not sport manager, but like in the sport administration, sport management is is a really interesting career for me because I can integrate my years of being professional as a football player after in in my work. That's really interesting.

I mean, almost every coach was a professional football player in the past. So there is more credibility. Yeah.

But not even as a coach. He could he could do something in like business as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually this.

And in this career that I have uh finished now is it's all about management, business, administration, how to uh contability, everything. So I think it was the perfect option for me.

Amazing. Um, would you also say, coming back to my original question, would you also say that the culture, obviously, you're a Colombian, um, compare a lot to the to the Greek culture?

The Colombians and the Greeks, yeah, we have uh a lot of uh many things in common. I think Colombian we are a little bit more relaxed, yeah, a little bit more loco, but yeah, yeah, yeah. You find everything, you know. In Greece, the people is also very friendly, very very familiar. So I I feel uh myself also with this like outgoing and outgoing, yes, and and they love family.

And I think Colombian people want to make everyone feeling like family, so it's also very friendly.

That's why we are in your kitchen now, and we we felt that already. Yeah, when we were super nice, yeah, yeah. Uh also his dog is the same. Uh he's now in a different room, but before he was trying to lick our feet, it was ridiculous.

I mean, I guess there is some differences to Switzerland from those two countries.

I've got I mean I I really like Switzerland. Yeah, I really like Switzerland. I mean, it's a very international country, and Zurich especially is a very internationalized uh city, so you can find everything, and that's really good because when you are in a city that you can find every type of nationality, they are open to everything.

Yeah, that's it, and that's amazing. That's interesting. Um when we start from like when you look at your career from this from the beginning. Um, how did this enroll? Obviously, you were uh playing in or you were born in Bogota?

Yeah.

And how does this go on? Like, do you is there a scout from FC Porto um coming to your house and uh telling you, hey, do you want to come to Porto? What's what's going on?

Okay, it was uh it's already a long, long, long history. I am already 26 years old and I began to play when I was five. My grandfather, uh the father of my father, he had a sport academy. The name is Eskofu Tupper in Bogota. So I begin there. Actually, I begin because my parents they really wanted that I practice sports, that I enjoy to be a sport.

My dad is a uh physical education uh uh teacher, my mom also, so it really knew the importance to make uh the kids love the sports, or to have an active routine. And then I I grew up at 13 years old. I was like in my city, the national, the the city team, and we were playing against the other cities.

What was it called? The team? The team is like Bogota, yeah. And we were playing against Antiochia, that is the Medellin city. Yeah, or like the selection of the players. Like the selection of the best players. The best players, okay. Yes, yeah. And I I were I was very talented in I was I am very talented.

Still, still you're still young, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And after that, I go on in the national team under 15 with 14. So we play one tournament in Bolivia, I guess. Yes, in Bolivia. I scored 10 goals in seven games. Wow, we were champions in that tournament with the national team of Colombia, and they were a lot of scouts.

It was also one scout from Salzburg. Salzburgzburg, okay. And in that moment, I my father, my mother, my family, we take the decision to go to Salzburg. Ah, you went to Salzburg first, not to Porto? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, okay. And how many years did you stay in Salzburg?

Then I stayed from Fietsen bis 17. Okay, showing up showing off your German space.

Was it there the first place you learned German? Exactly.

Exactly. I finished the school in in Austria online from Colombia, online, but I was every day in Deutsch course. Uh is where I was telling you about the players I have played there, and they make big change. Sloboslei. Slobosley. We were in the same room, we were teammates, amazing. Uh, a lot of teammates.

Which is a professional jersey before. Oh, yeah. Maybe you can show it now. Also, coaches uh Marco Rosse. Marco Rosse, he was my coach in under under accent, uh, like this. It was he was a coach on under 18. Wow. And then I met him after playing by Stuttgart, and he was coach of uh of Lexic.

Leipzig, yeah, yeah. Um, this is what Eric said. We we did the video also, a behind-the-scenes video. You can also check it out on a channel where um Juan showed us his collection of uh shirts, which is really impressive. Um you have played against many, many players, and um one of them was obviously Dominique Saboslay, and he told us, yeah, I was in a room with him.

I was like, what the hell? That's crazy. Um, like how do you how do you transform from being uh playing in Colombia and then suddenly going to Salzburg? One as a as a like mentally and then culturally, and then also like football-wise, because Salzburg has a really distinct style of of football.

Yeah, I mean it was really quick because actually I go for a tryout for two weeks, and then in the first week they tell me you will stay. Wow, you will stay, so I stay the next six months, and I have to move on. The culture there, the in Salzburg Academies and Red Bulls Academies are very impressive.

They have everything, and they give you the facility to improve very fast and to get in the in their mentality very fast. Uh, but they don't want that you lose what makes you special. That is the Latin American thing. And in my case, it was the speed, the one against one, the strength, the never give up, you know, the heart, because I play a lot with passion, heart.

Yes. So it was this. It was not easy the first years, but I get I remember I was going on holidays after the first six months. I say I don't want to come back. I remember fighting with my dad and and everything, but he was telling me, You are your future is in Europe. Yes, yes. And today on we speak about these things and we say you were right.

Yes.

How old have you uh were you at the time?

14, 14, turning 15 and going going away from your home. Yes, and since then I and living alone, friends as well. Yeah, living alone in countries that you don't really speak the language properly, that you are only about around people that are friends and and like this, but it's good because it creates me a strong personality, a very friendly, a very open mentality.

So you need a lot of discipline in those moments.

A lot, a lot. Do you feel do you can you already sense if you're 14-15 years old? Do you feel like you made it already when someone like a scout actually brings you to Salzburg? You feel like, oh wow, I'm I'm at a special place, I have a chance to to do something special here, or what is the mentality with going at the at this age to to to different over the ocean?

I mean, in this moment I I was thinking, okay, it's my chance, but uh my dream was always to play football. Since I remember maybe with seven years old, because at five I was just enjoying with the but after with seven, eight, and you begin to understand more on what football means. Yeah, I think with seven years I was thinking I will play football professional.

Interesting. And when you do this type of jumps in your career, it's like one step closer and still being in academies, you know. But you are one step closer and you are in front of so many kids, so you begin to see it more seriously. They are already seen very serious. Yes. But yes, you feel like a big jump, but still I was not professional.

Um and that was the point.

I wanted to be professional, but it's super competitive, no? So sorry to interrupt, but this is like the the whole atmosphere that's created there is like super competitive. So because one day you're there and then the next day you might not make it, or you might make it.

I mean, I meet a lot of players with a lot of talent, and they didn't meet me. Yeah, okay.

I guess you saw a lot of players come and go, and yeah, yeah, yeah.

I have the the calmness that I did write, and and after it have the jump, I did the jump to Porto. Yes, I did uh I did some tournaments with Salzburg and I was a very good player. I scored good goals, and it was a scout of Porto, and they checked me and I went to Porto.

What what age was this? 17. 17. Um, there's obviously a huge history between Colombian players and Porto. Yeah, yeah. We were just talking before Adam El Facao, James, uh, Jackson Martinez, so many Guarin. Um was this something uh that helped your decision?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I I saw this like a very big opportunity. With 17, they proposed me to make a pre-professional contract with 18 was already valid, so I say yes directly. Um and then it was the history behind because uh Radamel Falcao, you just say it is one of my idols from childhood. El Tigre.

And it was always like okay, another new striker, Colombian. You have always the expectation is that good as Falcao, yeah, and you always try to do it like that, and it goes like that, actually.

It goes very good. Yeah, yeah. Uh Teo wasn't there someone like Teo Teo, what's his called name? I don't know. Teofilo Gutierrez, Teofilo Gutierrez, he played in sporting sporting, yeah, yeah, true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in Portugal and Col Portugal and Colombians, they have a lot of really good history. We have make a look really really good history. You have a lot of strikers, Teofilo Gutierrez, Freddie Montero. Yes, yeah, a lot.

Sorry, just quick side note when you think about the biggest or most important moment from Colombian national team, like in the tournament or wherever, which moment do you think of when you think about that? About the the profit team? Or about the national team from the national team? Which is the moment that is like the most in my that is stuck in my mind.

I think I may may you don't remember this, but it was when El Tigre, Falcao, we were in the qualifications to Brazil, to the World Cup in Brazil, and we were playing in Barranquilla against Chile, Colombia-Chile. Colombia just need to win or make one point to qualify. And it was 3-0, 3-0 losing Colombia.

And then we turned the game 3-3. We took penalties from Falcao, and it was crazy. I really remember this. And of course, our our goals in in Brazil in the World Cup, uh James. Wow. James Rodriguez, Jackson Martinez, that Hames that that was like a tournament player.

This doesn't really happen anymore. Like players like Hames, he he earned his move at that World Cup because he plays so well. He went to Monaco, no? Not too.

He went to Real. He was already in Monaco. I say Manzambi will be like this this World Cup.

Oh, actually, Manzambi is doing really, really good also in Freiburg.

Yeah, Freiburg, yeah. I was in Freiburg. Wow, yeah, interesting. Um, I wanted to ask as well. Um, so you back to the story, you went to Porto, you're 17 years old. Do you live where do you live? You live like in uh with other uh players or the first year.

I I was living in the uh house of Porto. It's a house where they have the players, and my second year uh they give us one apartment to me and one player. So we were living there. It was really nice. Uh first professional contract, first year, second year. You already know the city, the things are going good.

Our team was very strong, very big names. Like right who was at the time? Fabio Silva, Victor Ferreira Vitina, yeah, um Angel Torres, that is one friend from Colombia. Um these were in the with you in the under Vieira under 18. Ah wow, Fabio Vieira, uh Romario Barrow.

But who was playing first team at that time? Do you remember?

At the time, no one. At the time we were just jumping against uh jumping to under 19, under 18, uh to second team like this, and we were training sometimes with the first team like this. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was then when uh Diogo Diogo Costa Diogo Costa, he's in Switzerland. Diogo Light.

He's now he's going yeah. Diogo Costa was born in Switzerland. Yeah, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's his his class. It was this season when you won the Euflick?

Yes, we won the Jot League.

Where where was this? Uh in Switzerland.

In Switzerland, the final first week.

And what against against Chelsea? Against Chelsea? And you play in the final? No, no? Okay, yeah, it doesn't matter, you win. No, but this is also something you might think, wow, we won the Euflick, you were the best team in Europe. I mean, this is and you're part of the team, it must be special, huh?

Yeah, was amazing. Yeah, it's amazing.

And it was not only that, we done the we won the double that season, we won also the the national tournament. Yeah. And it was amazing because we we were uh in the final against we were like this against Benfica Sporting, Benfica Sporting, oh, Benfica Sporting. Oh, it's nice the same, yeah. And and we win.

Yeah, so it was a crazy big party. I'm I bring my grandmother because she grew me up. So I bring my grandmother to the celebration. It was it was really special. She raised you basically. She's very important. Okay, yes. Yes, family again.

Family again. Yeah. Um, so at the time you're 17. How long did you spend in in Porto? Till 18, 13, till 18.

Yeah. Okay. 19, till 19. 19, and then you made the move to Stukart? No, then I moved to Panatinaikos. At first uh was Creek. Okay, okay. Then I moved to Panatinaikos my first year. Actually, I have the options, uh, I have the option to to stay in in Porto, they ask me. Um but the the the plan from them was like you play second team and then you jump.

We see if you can jump to first team. But I I I was pretty strict with myself. I and I plan myself like at the age of 18, 19, I need to be already professional. Professional. Yeah. Professional playing first division somewhere. Yeah. And Panatinaikos saw the opportunity and nice. They give me. They give me, and you know.

It's always 50-50 when you are that young because you need to show that you you need to play. And you also need a coach that plays you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was very lucky my year in Panatinaikos. Um I had a Greek coach, Greek uh big big name, uh Georgios Donis. Okay. He he's now coaching Arabia Saudi in the in the World Cup.

Yeah. And he gave me the chance, and directly first game, I I go inside, penalty. Really? They make me penalty.

So you scored the penalty? No, no, no, I didn't just make it a makeda. We saw his menu legend for many legends.

Makeda scored the penalty. I go, second game, goal. No, yeah, but then bar. No, it was not, it was not bar. Or yes, no, no, but they just no, they disallowed it because Makeda make a foul before but but okay. So they say, okay, yeah, third game was uh a derby, no, not derby, like a the classico from from Greece, Panatinaikos Olympiakos.

Olympiakos. Yeah and I go inside, penalty, and we draw one-one. So the people were really, oh, this kid. And then this continue, and and in the derby, Panatinaikos Ike, it was my first goal. Okay. Yes, and it was a crazy way, crazy game. I go in the bench, and we were losing 2-0 at the halftime. And the coach told me, you go inside second halftime.

Okay. I was nervous 2-0, but you know, it's derby, it's football, everything can happen. Shouldn't lead 2-1, and then they cross me the ball 2-2. In the last minute, 3-2, we win this game. No, it was crazy, crazy sensation. At 19.

At 19, yes, in a derby at 10.

In Athens, in the Olympic Stadion in Athens. How crazy are the fans in in Greece? They they are crazy. Big teams, they have crazy.

Crazy, probably one of the craziest. You you played in front, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

Always full house, I guess. The stadium. Normally, yeah. Yeah. Normally, yeah, big teams. Yeah.

So this was your team in in Greece. Obviously, you you felt like a strong connection to Greece as we spoke about. You had uh the language you learned quickly, um and the culture. You lived in Athens at the time. At the time, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. You liked Athens?

Yeah, Athens is amazing.

I love Athens. I was there last year the first time. I think I think it's a beautiful, beautiful city.

It's a city full of history, it's a city with thousands of years of history, and and I love it. I really love it. I I always have the opportunity to go there and and I really enjoy. The people still I create a really good name in Greece, so yeah, everything is super nice.

So you might go back one day one day. We have to go. That's good, man. That's good. So, but then you you play another year in Greece with another team.

Then I go on loan because it comes a Spanish coach, and he asked me, Juan, you are really good, but we really want you to explode. To play more, and we want you to play more, play, play, play. And then I go on loan in one team that was called Bolos. Okay. That the president was really good, friend of me.

Yeah. And we went there, and I remember that year we have a Spanish coach, and he told me, Juan, you will be our number nine. But we have also this number nine that we just get it, but we have to give him the chance. But I want you to put because you are very good. Yeah. And your ability with the ball and your capacity, your body capacity is very good.

You you don't mind to play as a winger. And then I say, Coach, I do everything, I just want to play. I don't care. Did you see yourself more as a winger or a number nine at the time? I love to be as a number. Um that moment, I was a number nine. Number nine, clearly. But I I knew my abilities because I'm really good speed and the space and this.

So were you as physical as you are now at the time?

No, I think I think I was more less physical. More tikaka like this, yes. But and then in that moment I I played the whole season as a winger and it goes amazing. And the striker uh goes also amazing. He goes is Dubikas, but you know, he's playing now in Como.

Okay, okay.

Yes, and and yes, wow, it was really nice. So this draws the attention of Stukart, and this drove the attention of other teams in Greece. Okay, and then Greece, okay. And then when I come back to Panatinaikos, it was the option to renew my contract, or but I I was I was looking for for something more challenge, more more economically better.

So they tell me, okay, then we will sell you. Yeah, and they sell me to another team in Greece. Ah that this is Pas Yanana. And this was the year I break the league. Okay.

How many goals did you do then? I scored 10, 10, 11. Okay.

In a team that was like average or average team.

No, it was uh it's a good team, but average team, yes. And this year we we we we make a crazy year with this team, historical year. We were even playing for qualified in European places, and then that year I scored against all the big teams. I remember the fans of Panatinaiko saying, Why you sell then?

Why you sell them?

You score against Panatinaikos as well?

No, but I make good assists, so it was good.

So your agents foam used go crazy at that time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In that moment was crazy, and that called the attention from Stuttgar and from many Bundesliga teams. Which teams as well? Can you say that? Uh it was uh Bremen. Yeah, Bremen, Nuremberg, Stuttgar. I remember it was between these three and some teams from Serbia. But I my dream was like uh also from big teams in Greece.

Again, they wanted to take me. Yeah, uh, but I decided for Stuttgart. I decided for number 11.

That's why I'm wearing this shirt, by the way. Here this is uh beautiful Stuckart. I love the the shirts you played in for Stuttgart is some of the best, honestly. Yeah, yeah, I love them. And then also there's like a uh strange connection between um players from Greece that play for Stuttgart. You have for example, your friend Mavropanos, yeah, Dinos.

He he has a story with Stuttgart. Um I are there any any more? It might just be one, but but I always if I hear Stuttgart and and Greece, I have to think about him.

He was also in Nuremberg, I guess. Yeah, right. Yeah, he goes he goes to Nuremberg and from Nuremberg he goes to Stuttgart. Socrates wasn't Stuttgart, huh? No, in Dortmund he was in Bremen.

Yeah, so the you do the switch to the German um part. You obviously you knew some German from your time at Salzburg. Yeah, um, did it help you to to integrate in German, Germany?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, when you arrive to a huge team like IC Stuttgart, they they integrate you, they they make everything that you try to feel like home. Yeah, and it was like this. I was feeling like home. Yeah.

Then how how did uh the culture of Stuttgart become you like? Did you feel at home? What you because the the people in the south are different. In obviously you play for Hansar Rostock later, spoiler, but uh um the people in the north and south are different in Germany.

Yeah, yeah, I think uh I I really enjoy in Stuttgart. I had the opportunity when I was a kid to visit Stuttgart. Look, it's uh really full circle, really circle, and and the life is really a circle because my my my uncle he lives in Stuttgart. No, and he's still now living there. Before you went to before I went there, wow, okay, and with the age of 10 years, I I went to visit him uh in Germany, and I stay with him, and I have a photo actually with 10 years old, me in the stadium of Stuttgart with the kid as a kid, no, and I I will show you.

Did they use the picture when you did the transfer to them? They did this picture. They had to.

This is social media one-on-one.

You will see, you will see, and you will get like wow. So, this is like full circle moment for you to play. Was this also the reason you joined Stuckart? One of the reasons this is incredible.

Okay, let me see.

No way, okay. We have to show this to the camera so good with the scarf as well. Yeah, yeah, John is gonna show you. Incredible. So, this is honestly, life is like this sometimes, and I was feeling like home, yeah.

Sadly, that season up a lot of changes. Uh but it we at the end we it goes right. Yes, it goes right. Yes, and you went uh on loan afterwards to Hansa. Uh then uh I find my space in in the Bundesliga, I make my debut, I make my goal, I was really happy, but I really wanted to have the opportunity to stay, but I knew I I I I really love to play.

I'm a very I'm personally very competitive, and I I get very annoyed when I don't play. Yeah. So I I decide to go on loan to to get some minutes, and then I went to Hansal Rostock. What about the fans there? They're they're crazy, huh? They are also crazy. I mean, I mean in Germany every every club has their even in second league, or even so even more in second league, or yeah, yeah.

Every stadium is full. Every stadium is full, and that's something that I love from the football culture in Germany.

That's actually an interesting question. Would you say the second league of Germany is level with the Greek league, or would you say it's bad or worse?

Every second league around the world is really strong, you know? Yeah, because they are more physical, the spaces are less, or they are more against the men. So that's tactical. I wouldn't say it's less tactical, but they are more strong. Yeah. But no, you still have in first division in Greece good teams that they can play.

Um they can play for win the title easily in second Bundesliga.

Okay. Um, and then to complete the your history, you you get the call from Fsta Zurich. Yeah. Um you you went to Fsta Zurich. Uh actually, funny story, you at your transfer, I knew uh obviously I saw you there for the first time. Um I I thought, wow, we got a player that played for Schluckart and and used to play for Porto.

So I was I was super hyped because I always go to Transfermarkt and look up the players, what they did and what they not did. So I was it was really special for me. How did you um yeah experience it?

No, I I was really, really excited to come to Zurich. Actually, I knew it was a big team in Switzerland, historical. So I was very excited, and I was just wanted to play. Yeah. And this is what happened. I arrived here. My first year was unbelievable, the first part of the season. Uh eight goals.

I said this before. Your first game against Ivo. Um I I remember it like it was yesterday, and you scored this. I thought was it a free one? Or like the last goal, I think. No, it was the 1-0.

Was 1-0? Was 1-0.

The 1-0. Okay. I remember it like it was yesterday. Uh, and you you bought it a uh defender, and uh, you're super physical, you do the sprint, and then you score. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and I I felt like wow, we have this player now. Uh, this is our only striker because you know we had we didn't have a stronger striker for a long time at Zurich because it's like a classical number nine.

Yeah, and for me, you were always this um super physical. So this was really exciting. Um, how this does this compare like this first moment to then having this terrible injury and like this other phase you had at Zurich now?

I mean, yes, as you say, it was a dream start. Uh dream part dream half part of the season. We were top of the league. Uh then we start again. And in March I suffered a killer rupture, and that's that's uh a shame, you know, because uh it makes everything more difficult. Um the team was suffering a lot.

Uh but okay, I I saw it like a challenge because I remember when I made the surgery, they tell me like it's one year. Some people say, uh, it's difficult to come back on your on your real level. Oh, it will be difficult. I make in my I make in my head I will overcome. I will overcome and I will overcome stronger as never.

And after six months, I was back in the pitch. Of course, it it brings some other things. That is what it cost me the last season that I was uh getting again because I couldn't do pre-season, I couldn't do so. It was like coming back. But right now my body feels so good and nice. I touch wood, so it is still still like this because I really want that this season goes as the first and better to play regularly this season.

Yes, to play and score because I really want to make this club happy.

Yes. Why would you say like they thought it will take one year? Why would you think it just took like six months? Is it because of your no, no, no?

No, because the normal bodies do it in one year, but I'm not normal. I mean, we see you really physically still have to be able to do that. No, because probably is also the risk to rhetoric that your body recovers because a tendon is not the same as a muscle, yeah, you know, and it's not the same blood flow, so it takes more time to recover.

But I make everything that happens to be back on the pitch the faster as I could. I went also to Qatar, to Doha, so I stayed there like for a month recovering like an animal. I remember every day double session. Yeah, and I think I I I get very, very strong. Yeah. And then coming back in the games and like this, I could feel the difference to being once six months out.

Um and when I was feeling again good, like okay, I'm getting my rhythm and getting again. I have uh muscular muscular problems muscular, so I have to stay out some weeks and then in this in December I had some problems in my calf, in the other leg. So but finally, after all this, it comes because it comes back so early.

But right now I'm feeling so good. And and I finished the the last part of my last season playing. I have the opportunity to score two goals again. And and this brings me a lot of energy, yeah, confidence. So happy for you.

Yeah, so happy for you. So, this this road of recovery. Um, was it your first big injury? I had never injury. Never it was my first injury ever. But what does this to you mentally? Obviously, you said you have to be strong, but like being sidelined and not being able to play, this does something to you.

You said you were angry if you can't play, and now you were benched for like one hour.

It's something I I remember I I had my kid in that moment here, so um I was like, okay, it will be is something it is killing me, but I still have I have a kid of three three years old right now, it's three years old, but in that moment it was one, so I have to also cannot be putting bad face to him because he sees everything.

So I have to stay strong for him, for me. And my I am a very mental person, so when I say I will do it, and I will do it as soon as as no one thinks, I will show you to prove them wrong. To prove them wrong.

Yes, yes, and the discipline that you already had as a kid was very important again. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so if we transform this into the next question, what is your goal for the next season? My next season, it will be uh proof wrong to everyone. That's so nice, bro. I wish for you the best, obviously. Um, it's it's really nice to see you back on the beach already last season. I I followed those games obviously, and you scored.

So this is uh going to be exciting for the next season.

A lot of goals, a lot of excitement, you know. Yeah, Switzerland is a league that every can go, every can, everything can win. Did you see it the last season? Last season was crazy. And you know, Zurich is always there, yeah. It will be always there, it's a big team.

How how do you see obviously the the fans are a big big thing in Zurich, so they are probably one of the best uh fan um fans in in Switzerland.

unknown Yeah.

I mean I love Sud Kurbe. They make them and they make you feel like home. Yeah. And whatever they see you, they they recognize you, and whatever they see you, they support you. And I'm sad the last two seasons we didn't have the success we we expect, but I know they will be always there. And I know to play for this team and to defend this team is always a big pleasure for me.

Nice, bro. Yeah, well, I'm I'm super happy um that you are back back on track, and uh, let's see what the season brings.

We will root root for you definitely. I guess we will come to the stadium once for sure. Let's see. You have to.

I'm not a photographer anymore, I can't take pictures of you anymore, but uh you can you can meet outside after.

Yeah, no, you can be there and you can support me, and after we go that we'll do that hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%.

Bro, um, so as a big part of our show, we do some uh football knowledge stuff. Um so etichat fit. Okay, we have to change anyway.

Yeah, we we switched, was really interesting, bro. I hope you like guys. I guess the two big fans will love that in the last two minutes. Like easy going easy going.

I I am really open to this. Yeah, I'm really upset used to it.

I mean when you talk you come in the flow. It have to be. Because other ones were more like uh shortly finished with answers, you know, and you were like telling a story, and that's perfect for a podcast.

Yeah, I know. And I I listen a lot of podcasts, that's why also I know how it goes. I really like one podcast like this, but from Spain. Yeah, they may I don't know, do you follow them? Because it's a good idea, like Thierry understands. I don't but I mean it's really really really nice podcast. Yeah, it's called I will tell you the name.

I mean we're still learning, huh? So we have to do it amazing. The third guy is really um greeting you to be here today. The fourth guy is called look up it's called Outsiders.

Outsiders YouTube is a Spanish podcast also about football. They have a lot of fans already because they make already like but I follow them from the beginning and they begin like this. Hablan español in Espanol, bro, it's amazing. You should really see it.

Look, they have already like I don't know how many borders was the last one, but you know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they begin like with players, huh? Many, many years. But I really like their podcast.

I love it too. We should do it more, but we we are gonna do it with uh Chevio as well. Oh he will be nice. Riola. Riola, yeah, some women. We also do women's football.

That's good, that's good. Football is for everyone, I believe. Exactly, but not paid.

Okay, well, don't say only the maids, come on and then we can also kill.

unknown No, no, no.

Um we go again? Yeah, okay. First up, we're gonna do um a quiz. Um I'll put this here so everybody can see. So it's gonna be between the three of us. A little bit more um basically Eric knows the game. I know it too, so I'm gonna explain it to you. So the challenge is to get as many clubs and uh nationalities in one go.

For example, if if some if the nationality would be uh I don't know, um English and then Manchester United and um let's say Everton Barcelona, then you could go Marcus Rashford and then you would cross up three. Okay, you know, okay. So you try to do as many as possible.

They have to be like next to each other.

So you can't like it. Ah they do so I cannot say Juan Perea here because he's not the stood guard there.

Um which one?

No, this one no. This one. You can only do this or diagonal. Also, it's possible. Okay, okay, okay. But we're gonna do Eric is gonna start and then we'll see um what's open, what's left. Okay? Yes. So Eric, now it's your time to shine, and now you have to do two. Okay. Don't k don't don't finish the game so fast.

Wait, we can do this and I mean the the the guests can start, no?

Okay, we put it to Juan. We put it to Juan. You you get the chance to do it. Wait. Okay, there you go. As many as you can, huh? It gives you points.

Yeah, each field gives like one point you can combine.

I mean. I have already one, like Girou, like indoor indoor moon. Girasi. Giracy.

Bro, you can't say me just uh the first name. I don't know him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Giraci sirou. So you get two points for this. Yes. Two points. Okay. Me or you?

You can you can.

Okay, I go, I go. Um let's see. I want to do more than this, you know. Uh go for the save. Bro, I go for I I go here in the middle. It's Barcelona, Chelsea, and Porto. Not many people know this, but Joao Felix actually played for Porto as well. Oh yeah.

But in under 12. Really? Ah fuck okay. Active years. Yeah, but improfessional.

I'm gonna have to take these two because um I'm not gonna say I'm gonna leave the rest for you guys. This is okay. I take the two points, whatever. It's okay, it's okay. Eric, you go.

I go with one player. Good try, good try, good try.

Everybody only thinks he plays for not from there, but from the academy. Yeah, yeah.

I go with one player that uh I learned before this uh podcast. He played for Inter as well. Uh Darian Males. Darjan Darien Males, right?

Darjan Males Inter, Swiss, and really good young boys. Yes, true, it's true, right? Yeah, three points. Three are three, you're up is winning now. You have to do three or more. Let me think. I have to think it's uh just I love this game, bro. I could play this all day.

Oh I have to say Juan Perea at one point, but I will I will I will I will close you because I don't want you to say it. So I will say Barcelona, Colombia, Jerremina.

Ah, baila, baila, baila. Jerremina. Wasn't it Messi that said like baila? Baila like dance now? Because he has always dancing. You know him? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this is this is good. So you have three points. You yes, four. Yeah. I have two, huh? Okay. You have to go for the clubs if you wanna.

But this these combinations are too crazy.

Too crazy.

I don't find who made this. You did.

Oh, I can't. Another one.

I will I hope this is Oh, how I don't you have one?

I have one so good, please.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't use it. Give me just one, give me just one moment here. Is it yourself? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. There's so many combinations. I can okay. Wait. I just gonna close some off. Um I go for uh Brazil and Manchester United. Um Mateos Cunha. Okay. If if there would be Sion or something, it would be different points, but I take the two.

Oh, I have one. I go with our guest now. Is it possible to go straight and diagonally?

No, I mean the line has to be one line.

Okay.

unknown Oh shit.

Yeah, but you can use it. You can use it here, you can use it here.

Yeah, so I go with this one because I thought Eric is good because I thought you do it.

So you take you have three, two, five, four, four. Guys Ramel Falcago Garcia, FS Porto, Colombia, Manchester United.

Oh, but you can't go around the corner, bro. No, no, no, you have to do one line. Really? Yeah, yeah, this is two points. No, no, no, no, no, yeah, but this is still two points, bro. But then I have to choose. I I will choose Ramel Colombian. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough.

Ramel Colombian Manchester.

That's good. Now I have to do some points, bro.

It's just I'm six. You're still winning five. I know I'm sick.

But was there ever an Italian playing for Porto? That's why I didn't choose. You know it. No, I let it open. Okay, wait, let me let me think. Um I will go. I will go a teammate of yours actually. Uh, it's called Hack. Alex. It's uh Haki. I take these two points.

I guess I go with our legendary goalkeeper from Switzerland, Jan Sommer and Bazaar.

Do we still have something open? Oh, yes, yeah, yeah. What? Well, this one doesn't work, Switzerland.

Then you no, then then if I do this, I win. Yeah.

I'll this one I know.

French.

Or do I?

French. I might even not know if French Porto. French Porto. French has to be one. 100% it has to be one. French Porto. I know.

Uh wait, no.

It's my turn.

I know one! I know one! I know one fuck.

Really? Such an idiot. Bro, I win this. I win this with this one.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. French Porto. It was one central defense.

You can also go with uh Italia. Italian. Bro, nobody play from Italian Porto.

Wait, nobody knows but you can also say like single positions, like a Swiss. Ah, yeah, Italian.

You can just play.

Yeah, but this is yeah, okay, it's cheap, but it's a or is it now because Italian and French is still open diagonally, like a double. It doubles here. No, to have like a person that has both passports is a possibility. But then it will only be Spanish and Swiss. No, also Italian and French. No. Ah no, no.

But this is not happening. This is not happening. No, we can't change the rule of the game.

You know?

If you don't know, you don't know, bro. You just keep. No, don't worry about it.

French. I mean Marega is not.

Bro, you know what? You're our guest, and I give you I give you a tip. Okay? He transferred for a huge amount of money, and you were right, he's a central defender, to Manchester City.

Now you have to know. I won't say anymore. Bro, I I I I think he's a central defender. I I remember one central defender, junk. He was very junk when he played at Porto. Yes.

And then he went to Manchester City. Directly from Porto? Directly. 50 million. Who? I'm not gonna say he has to know it.

He's still in City? No, he was bad at City.

No.

I don't know where he played. I think he went back to Porto one time. I'm not sure.

No.

No, no, no. I don't know where he went. I think he went to Valencia. No chance. No chance. I skipped. Bro. Elaquim Mangala.

Mangala play in Porto? Mangala play in the case?

Check check? I think this is right. Wait. Mangala. He played he went like 50 billion to Man City.

I know. He's French, right? He's French, yes. But I don't know if he plays in Porto.

I think so. Or am I am I stupid now?

I don't know.

It could also be. Or am I thinking of Danilo?

unknown No.

Mangala. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, please tell me now. Yeah.

Chatu Savez. Whoa. Really good call, man. That's fair enough. That's a good call. Okay.

He's still playing. But yeah, for which club? Bolivia. Bolivia.

Yeah. Oriente. Oriente Petrolero. Yes, the biggest is the biggest team in Bolivia. This one. Yeah, yeah. Oriente Petrolero is the biggest team. It's the biggest team.

Okay, so the good uh message for me is that I won the the bad message. The good message for you as well. We have another game. Okay.

I cannot afford myself to invite you in my house and let you win.

I lost it. Bro, this is but it's not the same game, it's a different one. Um, it's called uh Diki Takato. Do you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Diki Takato. Yeah, exactly. It's with football players. Oh, okay. Um, wait. Are we gonna play it? You can play, you you two play. Because I won already. No, no, you can you play.

You two.

You're more competitive. No, no, no, no, wait.

You guys play, you guys play. So to explain, um, you have categories here and here. So, for example, Olympic Marseille, Liverpool, Arsenal, and then you have uh Premier League winner, Switzerland, River. River, bro. And then you have to combine. So, for example, this would be a Swiss playing for Liverpool, this would be a Premier League winner playing for Marseille, you know?

So Juan can start.

Yeah, you see it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh well. I will I will go for the I don't know. Chakili play for Arsenal? No, other one, the other one. Oh, yeah, Chaka.

Yeah, I can put in.

What should I write? Yeah, yeah, wait, I'll I'll do it. Chakili play in Libre. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, you now you said already. Yeah, oh no. I didn't hear. I didn't hear he knows this, he knows this. Yeah, yeah, but I go with another one.

I go with uh Stefan Osho.

What a call. But you guys, you are you're Swiss if you don't know. Yeah, I know. We should have gone for Colombia.

It's not too fair, I know. I don't know, Olympic Marseille player from Swiss. But I don't either.

Ah, I know one. I know one that played there.

Arsenal River. I'm not playing.

I always confuse players playing for River or Boca. I have a hard time to differ.

I will say here Mosala. Yeah, easy.

Yeah.

Mosala. But this won't help you, bro.

You have to do like one line, you know. So you better go for this.

You know? Then I will say in copier. Yeah. You just win it now.

Yeah. They're strong, eh? This world cup.

And there is really a player from Switzerland that plays for Marseille? Yeah. Really?

Recently. I'm not giving more hints. But I will search if there was a player for uh River and uh Arsenal.

River played Liverpool. It has to be an Argentine player. Yeah, well definitely I try with Mascherano. No. You don't think I try. Try, try.

Is he right? He played at River. River! I mean I don't know any other Argentine players. Now you have to close him down, huh? If he gets this, he will oh then I go for here, I go Mosala.

Easy.

Because Argent good Argentine players always river, Poca, or Independiente.

Yes. Oh my god.

It's this one. Or this uh blue white stripe. Bro, don't look man. So I have to close this one now.

Premier League I I have you I have you I have you in in both sides.

Ah yeah, true. But I guess this one is harder. So I go with this one. I go with this one because it's uh they won the first um Champions League, Olympique Marseille. No, it's not Champions, it's Premier League.

Yeah, you're right, thank you.

I I would have gone with Champions League, but this is also French player, yeah.

I mean Olympique Marseille. I go with uh Trocpa.

Oh strong, strong. Oh now you can close you, huh? Bro, I it it's it's really hard. I can tell you already, but I can give you no, I won't give you a hint. I'll I'll let you think first.

If the if you don't know Is recently that he played for which team? Is uh is uh is a is still active?

It's still active the one we both search that plays in Arsenal plays now at Arsenal.

He played now at Riddle Noah It's hard, right?

Yes, I guess I know if you do you're crazy. Yes I know Wow Do you want me to give a hint to him?

Sure. I I mean I don't know if I know.

Yeah, I say you the position. Okay is goalkeeper. But not many people know first that he played for Arsenal and second that he played for independent. It's River played, not independent.

Oh, I know I wait. Then I have to check again. Oh my god. Wait, before you say play in Arsenal, I'm sure.

Yes.

Yes, he played there, but but I don't I will give my chance. No, sorry, I I I mixed it up.

I thought it was independiente. You were thinking about the right player, but uh Dibu Martinez. Yeah, all right, that's good. Emiliano Martinez, I wasn't sorry, my fault. But it is player? There has to be one. If the game says there's always a player, but now it's Eric.

No, no, no, you can try.

You didn't write. Ah, okay, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wrong information from Tier.

Yeah, sorry, sorry.

How is it called this? That play in Olympic Marseille. He played in River. He's playing now in the national team. Ah coach. No, no, no, he's a player.

Ah, I thought you meant Heinz.

Which nationality?

Argentina. Almda. But it's not there. It's not his position. Oh, I make it wrong. I thought was Alexis Sanchez at River Plate.

Could be. Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh my god. Too strong. Whoa. Guys, this is too strong, bro. I have to accept it.

I'm sorry. Wow.

I was not sure. I was like Alexis Sanchez. I guess I saw him somewhere. Crazy. You know, my memories about football players, I always see them in jerseys. And Jerry knows like every season. Oh, I didn't thought about it. But you if you want a rev a revenge, you can play.

I want a revenge, but with a Colombian flag.

Nice. Yeah, well we I don't know if you can influence this, but we try.

Oh, you I will win. I don't let you guys finish the podcast without me winning.

Should we do one or or you can try one? Yes, sure.

But I have to I have to I don't know if this is gonna be Colombian, bro. This is Boca. South America. Okay, fair enough. Okay, fair enough. You can you can start, bro. This is Boca, Poland, South America, treble winner. What is this hard? Title in two of the big five leagues, and Monaco. Oh my god, that's what heart.

Another one. No, no, no, no.

Let's go on this one.

Okay, competitive again.

Of course.

Triple winner.

I will go messy.

Yeah, easy. Messi, yes. Messi, bro. Yeah, it's too easy, bro. Um I will go Chableman, Poland. I want to off scare of Bayern, no? Yeah, of course.

Whoa. Titles in two different leagues. Polish. Then I go to Neymar.

Can we do the same twice?

It's a bit boring, but I guess it's uh loud, yeah.

Bro, my phone is fucked up. Which one?

Ah, okay. Already matchable. Yeah, but wait, uh Monaco, I know Monaco plays bro. Or do I? Um Monaco.

Monaco, South America. South American players in Monaco.

Portuguese players, I know some.

Colombian. Oh thank you so much. You're a nice too.

Falkao as well, right? Yeah, Falcao too. Falcao Rodriguez. The game against City. Monaco City Champions League game.

Kiki. It was that that was his first uh really good game.

Triple winger with Boca. Also playing Boca.

My guy, this game is killing. It's hard, huh? This game is hard. Yeah, we choose the hardest.

But Boca and Ice Monaco is also crazy. Yeah. Argentinian for Monaco, bro. But I have I I have something in mind how I can finish this. But uh I could finish this, but uh if you're not gonna take my my spot let me think.

Oh my friend, that's crazy. You know, yeah, I know.

Yeah. Can I give you a hint? Yeah, of course. He's uh Then it's a draw. A blonde big guy. Defender.

But this is hard.

You're asking me too much.

But he was captain, at least.

At Monaco. You're asking me too much, guys.

In this game as well. Okay.

Juniors Monaco, I prefer to go. But I don't know many Argentinians.

And me neither. I don't know one Argentinian player from Monaco.

Or winning two different big leagues. I don't know. Okay. Okay.

No Barcelona playing Boca. But it didn't win for Barcelona, no? Italia. Napoli? Yeah, but not for Barcelona. Oh no, no. I know one here, bro. But I will go. No, go, go, go, go, my dude. I go for Camille Glick. How I will know. Glik. Glick. This one you know, bro. I tell you the team he won uh title. Are you you want to do it yourself?

For Juve. Juve and Man City and Menu. Oka.

Juve.

There's even one striker now for there also. Uruguacho. Oh, of course. Did he win? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No? With PSC, huh?

Yeah, he win. But where else he played? Uh Napoli. Oh fuck, sorry.

Well, I am listening to this guy. Of course.

Cheating is easy, you know? Bro, I'm cheating. This would be also Lewandowski, but I'm not gonna do this.

But you can put twice this.

Yeah, that's what I asked, but I'm not gonna do this. This is too easy.

Bro, this is uh Carlitos.

I don't know any Polish player. Yeah, maybe play for Monaco.

I don't know. I just try. Yeah, okay, fair enough. I know Hiplaymboca. Yeah, I play Boca.

I have no idea. Oh yeah, yeah, that's need a minute. Um Polish player that won titles, I will go for I try I don't know many Polish players to be honest. Me neither. But I will go for Yershi Ludek. I try. You really want to do uh to have this one.

Come on, he didn't play in Monaco.

No bro, because I'm always thinking about Argentinian players, but obviously like Herrera and stuff is is different. Why? Yeah, but he's Spanish. That's why I'm thinking about Argentinian players. True, true. Monaco Monaco Boca is impossible. I was thinking I think about European plays that went to Boca.

Herera, the Rossi. Oh no, but he didn't play. I was thinking Paredes. But he didn't play for Monaco.

No, he plays in Paris.

Paris, Roma. Yeah, yeah, I know. I will get the Polish one. I will get the Polish one. Let me think.

Ashin, I'm I'm lost, man. I'm thinking about all the three all the time. And Asadra. And Asadra?

Yeah. Debian. That's fair. Why we did this. And then we can find who it was after. Wait.

unknown Dakoli.

What? For what?

unknown Juve.

Ah, Chesny.

Chesny wind with the.

Chesny. Also next time. The cameraman is the best of us. Chesni for Barca. Juve.

unknown Wow.

Yeah, okay. But I want to know this Monaco.

We have to change Thierry with John. Yeah. No, we have to change him with me. Then we don't have a show.

One second. I just want to know Monaco and Boka because this I can't sleep.

Player from Monaco. And Boca. Hallo, hello, holo. No. No, I don't.

Sergio Romero. I know. Hugo Ibarra. I don't know. I just know Sergio Romero. Did say here Sergio Romero and only two. We could have known Sergio Romero. No, bro. I couldn't know. I couldn't know. I didn't know he played for Monaco, to be fair. I don't even know. And then what we have here? Walter Samuel, Boca and Trevor Winner.

And Lewandowski and Chesny. Congratulations to Chan.

No, but even that's good, guys. You will win this season.

Juan, uh, I I really want to uh say thank you for your appearance today. Um, we're really glad to have you on the channel. Um, and it was really interesting to hear about your history and what you have in mind for the upcoming uh time and season. And we wish you all the best, obviously. And uh we thank you guys for watching, um, for staying on track when it's uh when we release new episodes with grounded.

We hope that you liked the episode. We hope that you can subscribe and and like it. And any final words, Eric?

Uh, just from the cholera side, we are very happy to have uh have you in the culture. So we'll see you on the profile as well. And it's always a pleasure on the podcast.

Let's go, bye bye, guys. Ciao, guys, thank you.

Amazing, it was very nice. Good game, huh?

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