I Am All In…Again: Emily is Flying off the Handles (Season 5 Episode 1 “Say Goodbye to Daisy Miller”)

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Hey, everybody. Scott Patterson. I am all in podcast. One love productions. I heart radio media. I heart podcasts. Season five, episode one. And we have a very special guest. Mike Henry joins us.

Hey, Scott.

Mike. Hi, Mike. He's an actor, comedian, writer, best known for his work on Family Guy, 400 episodes, over 400 episodes. And the Cleveland show is on screen credits also include. The Orville, Ted, American Dad, Gilmore Girls. And you played Ed for four seasons. Welcome, Mike. You were in three episodes of season four. That's right. And one in season six as a Stars Hollow resident, Ed. Ed. Always visiting Luke's diner. How was watching this episode for you?

It was great. You know, I'll be honest. I haven't watched these in a while. And it was nice. I watched it yesterday. And What a great show, and I understand the staying power when I watch it. It's got so much heart, and it's smart, and it's cool. Everybody's flawed, but you're rooting for everybody. It's awesome.

Seth MacFarlane, you know. Yeah. You know from Family Guy. He made a guest appearance on Gilmore Girls Season 2 during Lorelei's graduation. How did you get the role of Ed? Tell us about that.

So I was a writer and voice actor on Family Guy. I'm still a voice actor on Family Guy. And Dan Palladino was running Family Guy for a little while. And he just called me one day and said, hey, do you want to play Ed? And I said, sure. And it was cool. You know, like I love going on studio lots. And, you know, for me, it was not really a bucket list thing, but it's cool to go to all the different studios. And I've been fortunate enough to play on, on most of them. And, uh, it was, it was just great. And I just, it was cool.

And you were cool. You were, you had clearly so much on your mind trying. I mean, I can't imagine the volume of lines you guys had to, to go through. It was, it was soap opera esque. I would imagine. Uh, so you were always pretty intense, but you're always very kind.

Well, good to hear. Good to hear. All right. Say goodbye to Daisy Miller. Air date, September 21, 2004. The night picks up where we left off, season four finale, Rory and Lorelai aren't getting along because of a reaction to Rory's decision to bed down with Mr. Dean, who is married. Luke and Lorelai are awkwardly moving forward. Emily finally admits she and Richard are getting separated and is ready to take off to Europe for the summer. But in this synopsis is not included Well, I mean, Luke and Lorelei are awkwardly moving forward. I would say that is an understatement. Directed by Amy Sherman Palladino, written by Amy Sherman Palladino. All right, let's get into Dean, Lindsay, Rory.

This is such a troika. We get another point of view of Rory and Dean together. They say, I love you to eat. and they pick a song post-coital. Then, as Lorelei comes home, Dean leaves and stops to listen in on the argument between mother and daughter. Mike, it's who opined on such adolescent urgings and bad decisions. I don't mean to put you in an awkward situation.

I'm not.

How did this hit you?

You know, I was a little... surprise, you know, it hits, you know, you're, you don't usually root for the adulterer or adulteress and, um, you know, it, but I think that's just a credit to, to the writing and Amy and it's, uh, you know, these are flawed people. We're all flawed and she just going through it like we all do. And when she stopped and listened in, you know, you, you didn't, She didn't have to act much. She just had to just be there. And it puts you right there.

And that's why it's cool.

Poor Dean, being used as a character, a pawn on the chessboard to show how desirable Rory truly is. He comes home to his wife, Lindsay, and he blows up on her unreasonably, I would say, over his phone, having a pretty advanced case of the guilts. I am not going to ask for any commentary on that.

I'll give you some.

Okay, go ahead.

You know, I'm sorry, I don't remember his wife's name, but... Lindsay. Lindsay was, you know, you fell for Lindsay, but we're all rooting for Rory. And so it's all very confusing, like life. So, you know, Dean, just too many babes, as they would say, you know, two beautiful women. And he's just a young man trying to figure out his game as well.

So Rory meets up with Dean again to discuss the night before, but as youth will have it, they end up sleeping together again, this time at Miss Patty's.

Wow, youth. Youth, youth, youth. How much fun was that?

What would Miss, yeah, it was pretty fun. What would Miss Patty do if she walked in on him, do you think, Mike?

Oh.

Knowing how amorous her personality is.

There could have been some kickboxing.

You know what I think she would have done? I think she would have opened the door, seen those two. Had she not disturbed them, she would have closed the door and left and left them to it.

Oh, yeah.

Don't you think, Miss Patty? Maybe.

Maybe. Or who knows? Maybe all his wildest fantasies could have come true in that moment. But that's a different show.

Cover your ears, fans. You did not hear that.

I'm teasing. That's my job. I'm supposed to make jokes.

That's right. Rory tells Lane about what happened and continues to be distant with Lorelai. Lane's reaction was pretty funny. She yelled at her own band to just chill.

Yeah.

You're in a band with the girl. This comes with the territory.

Exactly. I thought that was very funny.

Pretty funny. Asserting her leadership capabilities... All right, as Rory's on her way to lunch with Emily and Lorelei, she sees Lindsay in an argument with the butcher, upset about her roast beef and how she wants to prepare it at night for her licentious husband. At the end of the episode, Lindsay serves Dean the roast beef, and he likes it. She is cheerful, and he seems kind of like he's maybe coming around a little bit. What do you think of this?

Well, I think she was living through the roast beef a little bit. You know, she wanted to be just right. She was trying to please her man. She was, you know, visibly excited at how well it had turned out. But, you know, you feel for her. And, you know, and for him, too. You know, like he's torn. He doesn't know what's up. And am I wrong? Did Rory call it off with him prior to all of this? Was she the one that broke this off, or was it just sort of mutually awkward? Is that why they stopped being together originally?

Oh, no. She dumped him. Okay.

All right. All right.

Yeah.

Well, then, so, yeah. So, clearly, he just never lost the love there.

Oh, no. No. He took it hard. Yeah.

He took it hard. Yeah.

This roast beef, very symbolic roast beef, maybe. Who do you think, Mike, that that roast beef represents most? Lindsay, Dean, Rory, or maybe all three. Served right, sliced up, tastes good.

Yeah. You know, I'm going with all three because you can hit it from all three angles.

Turning into a Peter Greenaway podcast.

Okay. I do crave roast beef right in this moment as we're talking about it. I may need to go get a roast beef sandwich with some horseradish.

I think I will, too. I think I might join you. All right. At first, did you think– do you think Rory and Dean don't realize what they have done?

I think Rory is realizing what she's done. I think she realized it when she saw– I'm sorry. Is it Lindsay?

Yep.

Buying the roast beef. I think she– I think it hit her right then.

Mm-hmm.

All she needed was an invitation to go to Europe at that point.

You know, I think it's unrealistic to expect teenagers to behave like adults. You know, of course, they aren't taking any accountability. Teenagers don't take accountability for the most part.

Correct.

I'm not saying all, I'm just saying most. So it's just sort of, it's what they do. Judge not, lest ye be judged. Yeah, absolutely.

They're lost in their little worlds. You know, you gotta you gotta you gotta see people in the roast beef shop to start getting a sense that it's not all about you.

Yeah all right emily let's move on emily and richard um you know they're arguing and she rushes downstairs to grab her luggage because she's heading off to europe alone uh we haven't seen these two like this have we uh We've seen little dust-ups, but this seems serious. She gets locked in the basement, yells for Richard to unlock the door, and escapes out the window without her skirt on.

The neighborhood security catches them outside their house and writes them a notice. What did you think of this? Was this funny? Was this annoying? What was this?

I thought it was funny. I actually didn't realize that she didn't have her skirt on because she was wearing a slip. But, you know, I. I think she was embarrassed. This is all getting public now in the neighborhood, nonetheless. And now there's an official citation. So what a disgrace. You can't have a disgrace like this when you're well-to-do.

All right. So now Emily comes back to Stars Hollow for lunch with Rory and Lorelai, as Lorelai promised. And it's awkward and quiet. And now she officially tells Rory. And Lorelei, that she and Richard are separated. And she's leaving for Paris that night and invites Rory to come along. Who accepts?

Yeah.

So, and Lorelei thinks it's an okay idea. All right. At the airport, there's still this tension between mother and daughter. Yeah. And they sort of say goodbye. And then Rory's off to gay Paris.

It was like the Friends finale.

Yes. Was it?

Will she get on the plane?

I don't, I don't, is that what they did?

I think that's what happened. And then there was another one that ended the same way at the same time. I don't remember what show.

Okay. Um, so Emily had, had a line at the, at the end of that scene. Uh, well then buy me a boa and drive me to Reno because I am open for business.

Oh yeah. Risqué. Putting it out there.

Challenge me. Uh, is seeing this side of Emily surprising or expected because of what she's gone through lately with her marriage to Richard, do you think, Mike?

I think it's surprising, but then when you think about it, it's expected. People start to lose it a little bit when the things they've been doing with their whole life start to really prove to not be what they want them to be in that moment. So I think it's certainly a fun thing to happen.

I mean, she's really flying off the handle, isn't she? I wouldn't say she's done, but she's going to go spread her wings a little bit. Oh, yeah.

I mean, she's just going to Paris. She's not really going to Reno.

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You know it better than me.

I don't, I think you might know it better than me. I don't remember a heck of a lot. Uh, uh, we begin by seeing Kirk on the couch, half asleep with an apparent injury. Luke is taking care of him a little bit, informs Lorelei that he's going to need some Bactine and some bandages. Uh, um, Suki comes in, kind of finds out what the heck went on between Luke and Lorelei. And here we see, you know, this is the amazing part. We see Suki or Melissa McCarthy in all her glory. All of those comedy chops, all that physical comedy, you know, coming to the fore here.

there's really nobody that does it like her.

That was so fun to see.

Right. Yeah. And I just, you know, I'm watching this scene and I'm just, boy, I'm, I'm acting with one of the greats and it's just so fun. And it was so apparent back then. And that's 2004. And the thing that really grates on me is how hard she had to struggle to, to get any kind of like, you know, film career. Because the skills were apparent. The likability is off the charts. Yeah. And then she has to fight to get Mike and Molly, which is the thing that really kind of launched her, right? I mean, before that, she's just like Suki on Gilmore Girls, and that's not going to be enough. Or Ed.

Ed on Gilmore Girls wasn't enough either. Oh, yeah.

I thought you meant Ed Herman.

No, no.

You're talking about your character. Of course. No, no. We'll get to that. No, no.

I'm joking.

I wanted to save the last 20 minutes just talking.

To you about your character. Oh, that's nice. Okay.

I'm kidding. But isn't it amazing, this business, how there's casting people, producers all crawling all over town. They're everywhere. Yeah. Right? Or at least they used to be. I don't know if they're everywhere now. How did it take so long for Melissa to get discovered? Why did it take years and years and years and years? And she's also giving performances weekly at the Groundlings that are knockout funny. Characters she created. It's amazing to me.

If you were to ask her, I don't think she would change a thing. Like, by the time she really got her shot, like, you talk about ready to go. She had 10,000, 20,000 hours. Like, she was, you know, a superstar when the light shined on her. So... You know, I mean, it's the same for everybody. You know, you went through it. I've been through it. We're all still going through it as we're trying to do different things.

And you just do what you can. And it's going to line up at some point if you keep going. So I have so much respect for her. And, you know, obviously hilarious. And the chops, the perseverance.

Lorelei heads back to the inn and everyone is taking care of Kirk. And he admits to Suki he saw Luke and Lorelei kissing, as we have just discussed. She gets super excited. Luke tells her this is key not to say anything because he doesn't know how Lorelai is going to feel about this. He's still considering her feelings.

Luke leaves the next day without talking to Lorelai, but they have a sort of a nighttime phone call as he's heading out or heading back. Suki pulls Lorelai into the kitchen and And it's basically screaming, again, another scene where we're seeing this sort of 4th of July fireworks comedic skills going on inside of Melissa. It's so much fun to watch. And it looks so easy for her to do it, but then it's just who she is, right?

Yeah, it is easy for her.

Well, I don't know if it's easy for her, but it seems like it's easy for her.

It's natural.

Right, right. But she's so damn happy. And ask Lorelai if she's happy about it, too, and that she should tell Luke. As a fan of the show, how are you feeling about this right now, these Luke and Lorelai getting together like this?

You'll love it. That's what you want, you know? We're all just protecting our hearts through life, and you don't want to share too much because you might get stung. And, you know, as you guys are easing each other in or yourselves in....

It's great.

You're rooting for it the whole time. And it's, you know, you watch that and you're like, you feel good.

You think the fans are celebrating this or they're on the edge of their seats hoping that it pans out the way maybe they want? Absolutely.

Fans who aren't too jaded or too stung to... to root for it. You know, you want to keep in love alive.

That's what you imagine rooting against it.

Yeah. I'm sure some people, our family guy probably made jokes. I don't know. Sorry if we did.

Oh, did you?

No, I, I, you know what? We probably didn't because of our, our ties to the show. But if it was any other show, we probably would have. Yeah.

I imagine there's a couple sort of Christopher fans out there that are They're not in a great mood at this point in the series, right?

I don't know.

I can't imagine how. I just can't imagine how. But, hey, to each his own. Lorelei calls Luca to the diner. And this is that phone call. Have you ever had a phone call like this, Mike, where something happens and then the next day she calls or you call her and there you are?

Yeah.

And you don't know where you are. You know, everybody's hopeful and Little scared. Isn't that nice too?

It's so nice. And you're in this bubble, you know, you're in this world stops for a moment and you connect or you're wanting to connect. And it was really great. I was just bummed that Ed wasn't in the diner. You know, I was like, what the heck?

That's what was missed.

I knew Ed had opened the door to the room.

And yeah, you know, I fought for you.

I'm sure.

I mean, it was a screaming match.

Yeah.

Where the heck is Ed here? This thing ain't working. There was something missing.

That's right. I'm going to call Dan when we get off of this.

Yeah. Let's, let's get Dan on the phone. But yeah, but what a night. I mean, Luke's still being, giving her an out. Like still being a gentleman. Still being like, Hey, you know, I know, you know, this could have been just some impulsive thing and gosh, I don't want to force my G shocks and.

Yeah. Luke's been hurt before.

I'm okay. Right. He's protecting himself as much as he's protecting himself.

Absolutely. That's what we got to do.

Interesting observation. All right. Now, after dropping off Rory and Emily at the airport, Luke leaves messages for Lorelei saying he has to help his sister and TJ at the fair. And he's on his way already. But he did get a cell phone. Big moment. For the show. Big moment for that character getting his cell phone.

It was that time of our society. People got cell phones.

Right. She calls him and they start chatting. And they have another little awkward call. Yep. A little less awkward, but you know, I guess they're a couple now.

It was sweet. It was sweet.

They're playing. All right. So the first half of this episode, viewers aren't Sure, if Lorelai is happy about the kiss, but we can all breathe a sigh of relief when she finally does call him back, right? And obviously they're both nervous about where this is going. And so everybody's on their best behavior. Let's circle back to Lorelai and Rory. Mike, do you think the lines are starting to get blurred here between Lorelai being a mother and a friend to Rory at this point? At 19 years old?

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. You know, I have a son in his 20s. I get it. You're trying to be cool and you're also trying to guide them. And yeah, again, great, great writing. I mean, again, these characters are so flawed, but you're rooting for them. They're funny. They're making dumb decisions. And they're all just wanting to... what Luke and Lorelei are toying with at this point. Everybody just wants that love.

And it's the dance of it all, which is just so well presented.

Right. And she's trying to be a mom, you know, questioning Rory's decision. She's, you know, giving her little mini lectures, but she still wants to talk to her about it as well as friends. Right. So, yeah, I guess there is a little, indecision there, a little awkwardness, maybe.

Well, and she's seeing herself through Rory. You know, she doesn't want her to hurt herself or hurt other people.

Right, right, right. All right. Let's talk a little bit about Family Guy. 400 episodes.

You know what? I think it's almost 500 actually at this point.

And you're still going strong?

Yeah, you know, I moved out here from New York in 98. I had met Seth. I was trying to get on SNL. I was getting kind of close. And then Seth called, and I had helped him with the pitch for Family Guy. It was some jokes. So I moved on out here, and it's been 28 years.

Wow.

You know, we had a little cancellation, actually. When I was on the Gilmore Girls, Family Guy had been canceled. And it was brought back after a couple years due to high ratings and DVD sales. So, yeah, man, it's just rolling on. I was a writer at the beginning and then got on the official voice cast a couple of seasons in. And then we spun off Cleveland, who was a character that I created and voiced for a while.

And now I'm just on the voice cast on Family Guy. So it's it's a it's a pretty sweet job at this point.

Yeah, I would say. And how many years now since 98, 28 years? Yeah. 400 episodes approaching 500 episodes. Yeah. You might be in possession of perhaps the best job in the business.

Well, I don't take that lightly and I don't disagree.

Right.

You know, it doesn't take much time. And, you know, just and also if I were on a live action show, this this popular, I'd have to deal with fans. No one recognizes me. It's the greatest. Like, you know, I am under the radar. And, you know, we actually just started working on the Stewie spinoff. Stewie is, you know, the most popular character on Family Guy. And he's being spun off. And so I'm on that show as well.

And that'll come out, I don't know, in a year or so. But, you know, hopefully that one rolls for a while, too.

Gosh, where do I sign up? How do I get an audition? Jeez.

Alex, you know, Alex Borstein, she'll get you in, too.

Was Alex on the show, too?

Oh, yeah. Alex is one of the regulars. She's, yeah.

Has she been doing it since 98? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

I remember when it started, I was a little starstruck because she was on Mad TV.

Right. That's the reason she had to drop out of Gilmore Girls is because Mad TV wouldn't let her out of the country to film the show. So that's how Melissa got her shot. Yeah. And after seeing the pilot with, uh, with Alex, nobody could envision anybody replacing her.

Alex is so good.

She just hit it out of the park.

Yeah.

Um, and then, you know, migrated over to, to Maisel and did that thing that she did and won all those awards. I mean, uh, and then Melissa shows up. So, um, Well, that's just fantastic. Did you do stand up? Did you ever do stand up? I did.

I did some stand up way back. I did stand up. I did some Groundlings classes. I actually, I just shot my own commercial parodies because I wanted to be on SNL. So, you know, my brother and I would shoot these things. We got in with Lorne Michaels and we shot a bunch of shorts for a project he did. And that's right around the time that Family Guy happened. And then I just started doing other random stuff like kicked in the nuts. I don't know if you ever saw that.

That was like an internet. That was one of the first viral things. It's me in an orange wig and a jumpsuit and it's all staged, but we're pretending to man on the street, kick people in the nuts. And then they're thrilled to be on TV. Um, once they realize they're on the show. So, um, that was just a silly thing that I was doing right at the same time as Gilmore girls. And, um, done a bunch of other stuff. I'm, I'm may crank up a little podcast myself and I've got a, a live action thing that I'm writing and honestly just enjoying life and trying to live a long time working out.

Who, who do you like today that's out there, uh, uh, doing standup? Anybody, anybody spring to mind?

Uh, let's see. Well, of course the big dogs, you know, um, who are the big dogs? Well, Dave Chappelle and, um, uh, Why am I spacing on his name? The bald Irishman.

Bill Burr? Yes.

He's so freaking funny. The Philly rant. You would appreciate that. You're from Philadelphia. Did you hear the Philly rant ever?

No.

What's the Philly rant? You have got to... Oh, it's filthy.

Should I Google it?

Yeah, I don't know if the fans should Google it because it's so filthy. Honestly, it's 12 of the funniest minutes you as a Philadelphian will ever see on YouTube.

But he's a Boston guy, right?

He's getting booed. He's getting heckled. And he just decides to say... the worst possible things about Philadelphia and, and just relishes counts down the time he has left. You've got it. Just, I'm telling you, you will, you will love it. Uh, those guys are great. And then, um, yeah, I don't know. Some other friends of mine, Adam Ray is pretty funny guy. And I don't know. I don't watch a whole lot of standup.

All right. Mike, Henry, thanks for coming on. Much appreciated. Please revisit us, uh, um, It was fun talking to you. All the best to you. And remember, best fans on the planet, keep those cards and letters coming. We read each and every one of them. We so appreciate your feedback. And remember, where you lead, we will follow. Stay safe, everyone. Hey, everybody, don't forget, follow us on Instagram at I Am All In Podcast and email us at gilmore at iheartradio.com.

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