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0:02 Hello, everybody.

0:03 Welcome back.

0:04 We are glad you are listening and that you are here.

0:08 Yes, we're so glad we have so much crap to talk about. There's a lot. Kendall's here.

0:14 Jackie's here. Reese is here.

0:18 Everybody's here. Manny's here somewhere if we need a man.

0:21 I reached out to Kendall this morning. I was like, can you please join us?

0:26 Our recording today, because there's a lot of bravo, bravo, bravo.

0:29 I really wanted to have Reese join to find out if Gen Z is sick of everybody criticizing Gen Z. Because they're doing it on Dancing with the Stars. Oprah's doing it. The lady with the iced coffee thing. Did you see the iced coffee debate? This woman is like a recruiter, right? This is not quotes, this is paraphrase.

0:50 You suck, Gen Z. You come into these meetings and you apply for jobs with your... you know, drippy iced coffee. And I mean, she, she didn't say this, but I think she wanted to say like in your workout gear. So then I saw another TikTok where a guy got his dad on who was like a 30 year recruiter. And the guy just says, if I came into a interview with the iced coffee, is that a yes or no?

1:15 And the recruiter's like, it's a no. And Gen Z is defiantly defending the iced coffee.

1:23 Yeah, ice coffee is a thing.

1:24 How dare you say we can't bring our iced coffee? Wow, I haven't heard this. I'm in a workout outfit with an iced coffee right now. Wow. Well, way to come to work, Reese. Way to come to work. No, you're allowed to wear workout gear online. for the podcast. But like, if I went to an interview, yeah, honestly, I'm not bringing an iced coffee. Maybe I would have a bottle of water in my purse in case I started choking. Right.

1:53 Like emergencies only. I wouldn't do that for an interview. Well, your generation is real up in arms over anyone criticizing there.

2:04 They feel like it's like a crutch or something like something to.

2:07 Like, no, I think they're saying like, how dare you say that I can't have my drink. I can have my drink and I can come with that.

2:15 I know.

2:16 Look, I think we'll do a whole series on Gen Z.

2:19 That's interesting.

2:20 I hope Gen Z is listening. We'll take you. We want you here, but we've got some notes.

2:27 That's awesome.

2:29 Speaking of notes, let's talk about dancing with the stars.

2:32 There's a lot to talk. I have so many thoughts.

2:35 Who do you love?

2:36 I have so many thoughts.

2:37 Please share.

2:38 Who do you love?

2:39 Okay, I really want.

2:41 To love Jenna Dewan and Val because I'm obsessed with Val and I love her.

2:44 They kind of bug me.

2:46 Oops.

2:46 What? Yeah. Excuse you. Because she's so good. What?

2:51 Why?

2:52 She's so good. But also when I'm watching, I'm not like compelled. I think it's because she's just good.

2:59 Oh, they're just too good.

3:01 I'm like, okay.

3:02 Do you feel that way about Harry and the other Jenna?

3:05 Yeah.

3:06 I actually really like Harry.

3:07 Cause he's like, he's got some, he has like his passion in there, but okay.

3:12 Ezra. I'm upset.

3:13 Cause when he dances, I'm watching and I'm like, Oh my God. I know.

3:18 And Danielle is like a real front runner. Right.

3:21 But disability aside, his passion, the way he moves, like you can just tell he's there. And I love, I love everything about it so much. Sierra Miller, even though she's not that great of a dancer, I'm watching. I'm just not watching Jenna Dewan. I don't know why.

3:40 And I hate to say that, but I do love her.

3:41 You know who really wowed me from the week before that I hadn't talked about because I kind of was like a little late watching? Maura. Who's Maura?

3:49 Maura's great.

3:50 I was like, who are you? And Mark Dallas. Mark! Like, let's please give Mark Ballas his deserved flowers. First of all, the creativity of that dance. And excuse me, that BC was singing. So Mark's wife sang the song live. So I know I'm a week behind, but I hadn't seen that. So I missed Maura and Mark. How are they this week?

4:13 I heard they weren't as good, but.

4:15 They're just really okay.

4:16 The thing that I love is there's this like viral clip that's going around right now where she's like, It's right before, maybe during their package. It was right before they were about to dance. And she's just having a full panic attack. You can just see. She's just like the breathing and she's like... That happened to her the week before.

4:34 Maybe... You're thinking of the week before because Mark said there was a moment where he was like, I don't think she's going to be able to do this.

4:40 But it was in the red dress.

4:41 They probably maybe put.

4:42 In the package this week.

4:45 I don't know. But I've heard him talking about that. That she did have like a real.

4:48 But she like totally... he totally calmed her down. And you can just see it without any words.

4:54 You just see it happening. And I love it. He's really a cool guy. If I was on this show, Val or Mark, it's just such a hard, it's a real pickle for me.

5:03 Val is my, Val, okay, we're friends with Val and Mark.

5:06 And Mark, equally friends.

5:08 I would tell this to Mark's face. I love, like Val is my number one. Like I would tell that to Mark's face. That was my number one to watch. I just love him. There's something about him, the charisma, everything. But him being paired with Jenna right now is throwing me off.

5:24 It's like two pros dancing together. Oh, it's like they're doing their dance.

5:28 You're like, well, I'm like, if he's going to be with a pro, it should be Jenna Johnson. Right. I'm sorry. I know everyone is giving the Huffs so much grief, which we'll dig into. But Derek Huffs dance.

5:42 Oh, he is incredible.

5:43 You can't dog how he dances. No, that whole thing from the week before was like insane. But people are really letting it rip on Julianne.

5:52 Her outfit last night.

5:53 They don't like her outfit. They don't like her questions. They don't like anything she's doing. No, Danielle, go on TikTok.

6:00 No, no, no, I'm saying, are they wrong?

6:01 I mean, look, first of all, the edits of, thank you, Alfonso. Thanks, Alfonso. And like, look, I love Julianne so much, right? So, I think I love her. She's like a friend. I love her.

6:16 She's the loveliest person ever.

6:17 I think she should be a part of this show, right? I think she should be a judge. I agree.

6:23 Honestly, I think she should be a judge.

6:25 I mean, I think that what people don't know is how hard what she's doing actually is. She probably has an earpiece in. It's all happening live.

6:35 And they're yelling at her.

6:36 She's in one part. Everything's happening in another part. You can't hear her. So she's relying on this earpiece. There's probably, she's probably getting show in her earpiece and someone's talking to her.

6:50 And she also has to watch and observe everything.

6:52 Nobody understands how brilliant Ryan Seacrest is because he makes it look so easy and never messes up. So people are like, well, how come, you know, and you know, I'm going to hand it to Alfonso too.

7:07 Alfonso's incredible.

7:09 So good. that anyone that's not like quite as good as Ryan Seacrest and Alfonso is like getting the haterade, right?

7:17 I honestly want to swap them. I feel like Derek would be a really good host. And I feel like Julian would be.

7:22 A really good judge. Derek is a really good host.

7:24 He hosts extra.

7:25 I want to switch them.

7:27 Well, send a note. I don't mind her funky outfits. People are asking if it was rage bait.

7:37 I will say our team did start a text last night and they were like, what is happening?

7:42 What?

7:42 And I was like, what in the Grinch who bill is that?

7:45 But I, I, it's not that I didn't, I didn't hate it, but I was like, I know, I know.

7:52 I didn't hate it either. Oh, here's the thing. It's a thing. It's a moment, right? She's not trying to just blend in. So take your moment, girl. Here's where I would help her with the live questions. That's where I would step in and be like, let's, we're going to work on that.

8:11 There's got to be a producer there that helps.

8:13 Come on.

8:14 Well, no, but I think that's part of the problem. They've probably got her with those cards and they're talking in her ear when it's almost like, okay, everybody take a breath and just let her try it. I think she's overproduced. That's just my thing. I think she's being overproduced that they're like, try this, ask this, here's three cards.

8:31 But if you don't use the cards, we're going to say it in your ear. And she's like, I'm like, just let her watch the dance and ask her questions. She's a smart gal. She's got it.

8:40 Yeah.

8:40 I do think so.

8:41 I think what's throwing her is the cards and the talking in her ear and the whole thing.

8:45 That would throw me too.

8:46 Maybe you might be right, but she needs a producer to say that we're throwing away these cards.

8:50 Just watch the dance. Yeah. And do you.

8:53 Yeah. Yeah. I did think it was really cool that Jenna Johnson with Jenna Dewan saved Jenna Dewan from a nip slip.

9:04 You guys see that?

9:05 We saw the chicken cutlet hanging out.

9:06 Yeah, we saw the chicken cutlet pasty. Okay, I have to talk to you guys about Connor Wood and Riley.

9:19 Yeah, I was just about to ask you about them.

9:21 Are they making out? Like, are they just... Are they together?

9:24 I don't know. But I'm sure that's what Dancing with the Stars wants you to think.

9:29 They love that.

9:30 I'm totally predicting that. Brooks and Glenn.

9:32 Whatever, Gleb. Whatever his name was. No, this is like.

9:35 You can tell they like each other.

9:37 Like, they are just.

9:38 But she has a USC football player boyfriend, so he's got to go.

9:41 Oh, she does?

9:42 She does? Oh, she does.

9:43 That's right. That's not going to last.

9:46 Speaking of, did you guys see my text? This is a total sidebar. Did you guys see my text that I just discovered that football player that's so dark? Braxton Berrios.

9:54 But Amy, you haven't because we've done, we've talked.

9:57 To Alex Earl many times.

9:58 I just didn't pay attention. I just didn't care.

10:00 You must have not.

10:01 I just was like, I don't care who her guy is or who broke up with her. I didn't care. And then I stumble upon this darling football player on TikTok. And I'm like, who's this guy? And then I Googled it. What team is he on? He's darling.

10:13 For all the times Kendall and I have said Braxton, Braxton.

10:16 I mean, I mean, you're not the other. Look, it kind of, look, kind of have a memory of it but I was.

10:23 Like this cutie cutie do we feel that the right person went home I'm a little bummed for Giada she's the right person Guillermo I think did well last night otherwise I would say he has to go but I did enjoy his performance why.

10:41 Is everyone saying that Whitney's facial expressions look like she wants to go home I know she's pregnant.

10:45 But like girl she's super pregnant I don't know.

10:48 I don't think she wants to go home. Nobody with a bank account wants to go home. Yeah.

10:52 Cause they get paid more.

10:54 They get paid per week.

10:55 Yeah. Yeah.

10:56 She didn't want to go home.

10:56 That was a whole thing on Tik TOK right now. It's so interesting.

10:59 Tik TOK doesn't always know everything. Who bugs you? Julia. What?

11:01 Why?

11:01 I think she's so nice.

11:09 Really?

11:09 Cause she's, cause she's so like, Oh, I stepped away from the career. I don't know what bugs me.

11:14 I can't put it. It's okay. It's like, that's what makes the world go around. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Yeah. I don't know. That is what makes, I laugh so hard at the Tik TOK of this woman thinking she's voting. So she just keeps texting gear, Mo gear, Mo gear, Mo gear, Mo. And then she realizes she sent it to her like friend. So her friend just got gear, mo gear, mo gear.

11:36 That's amazing.

11:37 Whatever you're allowed to do it 10 times or something.

11:38 That's cute.

11:39 I will say there was no salsa in Tyler Cameron's dance.

11:43 It was just magic mic, let it rip, go for it.

11:46 And I was on that.

11:47 I was on that.

11:49 He looked good. He looked good.

11:52 When you say your husband said again, you texted. Oh, yeah.

11:54 He texted.

11:55 So I was watching it and I was clearly enthralled and just watching. And he goes, why do people like this show? And I was like, did you just see the last three minutes that was on the television?

12:08 Why doesn't John Marino like Dancing with the Stars? I love like I love when he's a hater. When people film their like boyfriends, you know, young people. I know I sound a hundred when I say young people, but there's like a TikTok of a girl who's just filming her dude watching it. And he's like getting into it.

12:25 He's like, you know, like the dudes are getting into it. They like it.

12:27 All right.

12:29 Well, that's dancing with the stars talk. We've got a lot to talk about. Let's, should we talk about Tom Cruise? I am, here's my concern. Is anyone going to see Digger? Like, are you guys going to go see Digger?

12:42 No, no, no, but I'm not mad.

12:45 Well, it's releasing like when I also feel like, Why are we doing all the press now? I feel like it still doesn't come out for like another two weeks.

12:52 Let's see when it comes out.

12:54 October 2nd or something.

12:56 No, it's next week.

12:57 But like, so much hype in advance. Like, shouldn't all this be next week? I mean, look, I will not lie. I wrote Tom Cruise premiere and watched every TikTok I could of him giving interviews at that premiere.

13:12 I feel like I'm kind of over this promo tour. I was really excited about it, thought it was great, but.

13:19 Now it's just too much, too much, too much.

13:21 Too much.

13:21 Well, that's my whole point. I feel like we started too early. The movie's not even out by the time the movie comes out. I'm worried because I don't get it. I want to see it. And look, I like Tom Cruise. I like him as a movie star guy. I don't get it. Yeah, there's even some like. Reviewers that are like mixed on it. What is it?

13:43 That's my problem. Is it like, I don't know.

13:46 I've seen the trailer. I couldn't tell you.

13:48 Name a movie coming out. I could probably give you the plot, right? Mr. Irrelevant. I know it's coming out. It's about a Cal football player who turned pro. I think he was like unlikely to ever play, turns into this great football player, gets cancer. Something like that, right? It's this real life story about this guy. I got it from the trailer I understand this one I'm like I've watched the trailer 19 times I don't understand what this movie is powerful oil tycoon who causes a global ecological disaster erases to prove he's a savior of humanity it sounds to me like that show I like with Walton Goggins the world's over it's like what is that it's based on a video game I don't know I've never seen it Fallout thank you Manny is Digger like

14:32 Fallout I don't know any more thoughts on the GQ cover I'm still like it's good Yeah.

14:38 I think we did it.

14:39 What about Tom Cruise with the Kelsies?

14:44 I mean, him being in the suite with Taylor Swift made sense.

14:48 He ended up doing an interview on New Heights.

14:50 I thought he did a pretty good job on that New Heights. He seemed a little bit more normal.

14:55 I was not going to do a good job.

14:57 Yeah.

14:58 I haven't listened either.

14:59 I need to.

14:59 Here's the thing. I just want to go to dinner with him. Why do I just not care about him? Well, because you're 20-something. How old are you?

15:09 Yes, 20.

15:10 Why would you care about a 64-year-old man?

15:14 I care about George Clooney.

15:16 Really?

15:16 Oh, yeah.

15:17 Like in a hot way?

15:18 No, no, no. I all around care.

15:21 I'm obsessed with his marriage. He's my grandpa, what? Oh, well, I'm all.

15:25 I want tips on how he looks that good so my fiance can look that good. I want tips on my career.

15:31 Like, I just love him. Would you be interested in who Tom Cruise is dating? No.

15:37 Right.

15:37 I feel like you're just, it's interesting. You're into, or what about, where do you feel about Brad Pitt?

15:41 I'm interested in him too.

15:42 Are we all going to that dog movie?

15:45 Oh, I'm for sure. I'm probably going.

15:46 Yeah. I would go just watch Brad Pitt. I'm really liking his style. Did you guys see his like denim on denim with the pink tie?

15:53 He looks good in everything.

15:55 Yeah.

15:56 He's, I'm pretty in on Brad Pitt. Like him with a dog.

15:59 OMG. Danielle, look, this is our type.

16:02 I know.

16:02 Jason Tardik's fiance? Yes, Jason Tardik's fiance.

16:08 That's her place.

16:08 Is it in the background?

16:10 They have a picture with him. Go to Jason's Instagram, Kendall.

16:12 Wait, why are they so tight?

16:15 It was in Nashville.

16:17 The premiere was in Nashville. Is that her in the background?

16:18 No, hold on. Let me get a better picture.

16:20 Why is she tight with Brad Pitt?

16:22 Because she runs an adoption agency for dogs. And he adopted a dog through that agency.

16:28 And the premiere was in Nashville. All right, fine.

16:31 I'm in.

16:32 Great. Go to Jason's. Oh, cute.

16:35 Look at that.

16:35 Cuties.

16:36 Wow.

16:37 His fiance is very pretty.

16:39 She is stunning. She is cute. They are such a cute couple. Cute. All right, fine. I'm happy for everybody.

16:46 I love Brad Pitt for adopting those doggies.

16:48 Me too. I just love him so much.

16:51 I know.

16:52 I'm excited to see that movie, although I don't want that dog to die. I'll tell you that much. If this is Old Yeller, I'm not.

16:57 If it's another Marley and me, I can't go.

16:58 Yeah, I'm not going to be able to tolerate that. racing in the rain this is your moment guys it's Bravo time it's Bravo.

17:07 Time I think we have to talk about SLC we have to talk about New York and we also have to talk about Traders Normie edition I know.

17:15 The husband I think they're married they maybe are just in a relationship of one of the guys my good friend is with married I don't know if they're married so please forgive me if they're just together for a long long time but yeah Ben do you guys like Ben Ben?

17:32 Ben.

17:32 His name is Ben. Oh, McDonald. Yeah, get to know Ben, guys. Get to know Ben.

17:38 Oh, I got to see a face. Because they're all normies. I don't, like, I got to Google. We're only two episodes in. I'm not that familiar yet.

17:45 Right, because you have to figure out who's who. I get it.

17:47 But Ben.

17:48 Keep your eye on Ben. He, we had him. We know Ben.

17:52 I know Ben, too.

17:53 Yeah, you know Ben.

17:54 You know, I was watching this and I was like.

17:56 You're like, I know that guy. Yeah, because you know Ben.

17:59 Yeah.

18:00 Oh, got it. How's Ben doing on it? How's Ben doing? Good.

18:02 He's on it. He made it through the.

18:07 First two episodes, so he's around.

18:10 Good. All right. Well, how is it with regular people? I don't know if you should call them normies.

18:15 Yeah, Lala called them random, and she got hate for it. Oh, what about.

18:21 They're just normal people.

18:24 That's what a normie is.

18:25 A civilian?

18:25 A normie.

18:26 A civilian. A civilian. I love that she got... People didn't care that she... Didn't like that she said. Like, why do I get hate for using the word random? What is the right way to say it?

18:38 Just... Regular people. That's how I call myself. I'm a regular person.

18:42 Regular people. But, like, does that make... Like, celebrity's not regular and a person's not a... I don't know.

18:49 There's a little bit of hate on these people because for the most part.

18:53 And now Ben makes sense.

18:55 For the most part, these people are influencers of some sort.

18:58 Yeah. They're not quite regular.

19:00 Right.

19:01 I thought the first episode, the first elimination was hilarious because.

19:06 Would we get hate if we called them gen pop? Probably. What's that? Gen pop. The general population.

19:13 The general population.

19:14 Oh my gosh.

19:15 That's funny.

19:15 It's kind of a prison term too, so that might be hate. That's okay. I don't know. I'm just trying to think of a good way to call them like citizens. civilians normies civilians.

19:29 Normies yeah i don't mind normies what does that.

19:32 Mean normal like you're normal but you're a normally normal person they're not normal on a show but they're normal anyways yeah i'm gonna come up with a name average is.

19:44 Worse than you're just an average person i was um we're better what is a word for like us what are we.

19:56 People regular folks I don't know normies.

20:01 Normies yeah normies and whatever you want um.

20:06 Oh, I was talking about the first episode on how one lady was like, I heard her say that it was awful when she killed the person that got murdered. And she got everyone to be like, she's a traitor!

20:19 And she wasn't.

20:21 It was so good.

20:23 So is that like a trick you want to do?

20:26 No, you don't want to do that because now everyone's like, why did you just vote off somebody that was not... You want to vote off traitors. You don't want to vote off Facebook.

20:35 So why did they, I don't even explain it. I don't get it. It's a waste of time. Don't waste my time. Don't waste the people's time.

20:42 I'm going to keep giving it a shot. I'm going to keep watching and hopefully it gets better.

20:46 Are you more excited for the celebrity one coming soon?

20:49 I want to see Craig Conover. I want to see Bronwyn.

20:53 You know what?

20:54 I have a hot take. It's not that these people are normies. it's that you don't know them. Correct. You want to watch people you know. And the way to watch people you know is you have to do celebrities because you know them.

21:11 The reason why Traders is so good is because you know, like, you know the funny, the little things about them, right? So like, Tom Sandoval for example you're like you know he's going to be super spazzy and he is going to do something that not everyone agrees with or you know you have Faye Drake you're like she's a lawyer she's going to sniff this out and she's going to crush it not.

21:33 To brag exactly what I said you want to know.

21:36 Them you know them and you're more invested keep talking well.

21:40 I'm just turning my fan on I'm turning my fan on because I'm having a hot flash but keep talking because I don't care about this anyway oh.

21:45 My god I don't care about this show either yeah it's alright But I do want to talk about Salt Lake City and New York because I have thoughts.

21:53 I'm going to save mine. You guys tell me what you think first.

21:57 First off, what are your thoughts on Bronwyn being center snowflake?

22:01 What is center snowflake? Oh, that's interesting.

22:03 That is really interesting.

22:04 You're in the middle of the cast gallery.

22:06 That means you're the most important.

22:07 Yes. Of what show? Tamara Judge is holding her.

22:10 Orange in the middle because Tamara Judge.

22:12 Oh, wow. You know what I mean? Tamara's on.

22:16 middle no i'm just giving example vicky is vicky is kyle richards holding her diamond i don't know like i mean yeah yeah i mean look i do i.

22:26 I think it might be the only one that says this i actually do like bronwyn i do we talked.

22:29 About what y'all think of leah remini joining housewives yeah we talked.

22:33 About it i love it i think it's incredible i think she's in love I think she's a hoot.

22:38 That show needs a massive overhaul.

22:40 OC is airing now? Correct. Yes. Okay. And is it good? Yes. Oh, whoa. All right. Wow.

22:48 I'm very proud of Tamara Judge this season.

22:49 Me too.

22:50 I'm very proud of her.

22:51 I love Tamara. Who is your favorite other than Tamara? Emily?

22:55 Why not?

22:56 I love Emily.

22:57 I think the new girl.

22:58 I think I like Carmela.

22:59 Carmela?

23:00 Yeah, I love her.

23:01 Because she brings the heat kind of a thing?

23:03 No, she's just kind of spicy and just not, not in a negative way. Just like, she's just different.

23:08 Literally said she brings the heat and you're like, no, she's spicy. No.

23:13 When you said the heat, I meant, I thought you meant like the drama. She doesn't bring the drama. She brings like fun, different angle.

23:22 I think they need a shake up too.

23:25 They do need a shake up.

23:26 Wow.

23:26 So many shake ups.

23:27 I really struggle with this season.

23:37 Are you guys gonna watch that golden thing no on.

23:40 E i'll watch it but i might not be into.

23:43 It that's like so rude you watch all this stuff and why would you not watch our very own kelly you.

23:48 Know what's you know what's interesting i also don't like watching girls trip.

23:51 Oh you don't like girls trip it's two fours it's two.

23:54 Produce yeah okay fair fair i like seeing people in their cities living their normal lives this is not normal life okay.

24:02 Fair your girl strip.

24:04 Breaking the fourth wall with girls. You know what I want to talk about with Amy, not to go all over the place.

24:09 Tell me. This sounds good.

24:10 John Gosselin. She might find this interesting.

24:13 Yes. Okay.

24:14 Haley's a rony newbie.

24:15 She also would love to hear about Carol.

24:19 John Gosselin is, is Mrs. Gosselin's ex.

24:23 And so Kate Gosselin, the mom of all the.

24:26 Yeah, I know who she is. Yeah.

24:27 She got her tummy tuck done by the rony newbies.

24:31 Dad.

24:32 He's like this wealthy plastic surgeon. Okay. They became family friends because he did the tummy tuck.

24:38 Anyways. Okay. So John and Kate, they separated. I understand.

24:42 After the reality show.

24:43 And is this who he dates?

24:44 And Haley, who's now the housewife was in college and John was staying at her parents' house because he needed a place to stay.

24:51 Yeah.

24:51 And so they ended up like being a thing or whatever.

24:54 I don't know. Are they boyfriend and girlfriend? Yeah.

24:58 They were.

24:59 Yeah. Okay. But that's not who John Gosselin's girlfriend is now. No. No.

25:04 Got it. But the media called the housewife, this new housewife, like the mistress in the John and Kate plus eight.

25:09 Oh, what? Blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

25:11 And John is on this season and I'm so excited just to like.

25:15 Add to it. That feels juicy. That feels juicy.

25:17 I will say it's a very slow start to New York. So, Amy, you know the Radzuels.

25:22 Yeah. Yeah. Is she back? Yeah.

25:25 So, Carol's back.

25:26 And they, on this last episode, they talk about a love story and how, you know, one of the girls is.

25:33 And does Carol not care for it? She did not care for it.

25:35 She does not care for it.

25:37 She's like, don't ask me.

25:38 Yeah.

25:39 One of the new girls or not new girls.

25:41 She's, she's one of the past members, but Jessel, she is like confronting her about it. And definitely obviously listening to producers to ask about it because she was so awkward about it. And Carol's just like, you can tell she's just so uncomfortable. And she was just like, yeah, I don't like this. Stop. You know, like, but I find it so, I love Carol. I find her so compelling.

26:04 And I think if it weren't for her, I would be really lost this season.

26:09 Oh, really? Interesting. Yeah, because Kessel, I feel like she's got to go. She's the only reason why. Who?

26:15 Kessel.

26:17 She's trying to earn.

26:18 Kessel and Zai got to go.

26:19 They got to go. Yeah.

26:21 They gotta go.

26:22 It's bad.

26:23 Everyone's gotta go from all franchises except.

26:25 For Rhode Island. How many hours a week do you watch all this stuff? Oh, it's my life.

26:29 It's like you're my friends. I think I watch more housewives than I.

26:35 Talk to my friends. I know.

26:37 It's starting to be drama in my kitchen because.

26:39 I'm starting to act like these women. Do you watch it live or on like a, you know, Hulu or whatever? Peacock.

26:46 I do peacocks.

26:47 I don't watch live. You're not like racing to get in front of the TV by 8 p.m.

26:51 Or whatever. Oh, okay.

26:52 If I see something on TikTok, I'll get FOMO that I haven't seen it.

26:56 Would you want to be a housewife or no? Kendall would be.

27:01 Such a good housewife.

27:02 You would. I couldn't do it.

27:04 You'd be so good.

27:05 You'd be so good. I'm working so hard on my outfits for your wedding.

27:11 Oh my gosh, you're so funny.

27:12 Really working hard on them.

27:13 You're so funny. Actually, let's take a break of the TV chatter. Can you tell us what the biggest stress of a wedding is nowadays in 2026?

27:21 Yeah, good question.

27:22 What is the thing that sucks the most?

27:24 What is stressing out the poor Gen Zers? This is one right now that I'm dealing with this week.

27:31 If you can see right in front of me, this is my to-do after work today.

27:34 Is that the table assignments? No, I haven't gotten there yet.

27:37 There are people, my generation, they don't know to RSVP, even if it's visually.

27:43 Right, right. Oh my gosh. Don't get me started. Good luck to you. Your generation, they can't even show up at work. You think they're going to RSVP to your wedding ever? They're just going to like show up, Kendall. No, I know.

27:59 And then it's so rude when people ask, so can I bring, I have a new girlfriend. I know you didn't give me a plus one. I'm like, Don't even ask me that.

28:06 Let me tell you what Gen X does. Okay. I RSVP'd the moment I got the thing. I made my hotel reservation and I sent you a gift.

28:15 Boom.

28:17 That's what Gen X does. It's true. Boom. I'm a millennial.

28:21 I RSVP'd before the due date, not the day I got it. I got my hotel the second Kendall sent me the link.

28:28 That's correct.

28:29 For hotel blocks.

28:29 Did you send your gift yet?

28:31 I know.

28:31 I'll bring that to the wedding.

28:32 Oh, you'll bring that. Okay, that's kind of millennial. That's kind of my age. So are you having to now reach out awkwardly to everyone you invited to be like, hi, Kelly. Hi, Chloe.

28:44 And I'm like, I don't care if you're coming.

28:46 I don't want to reach out.

28:47 So I'm only reaching out to the people I care about because other people, I'm like, oops, you missed the deadline.

28:51 But what if they just show up? That can't happen. I'm going to have to figure that out. Wait, so go back.

28:58 What was that list that you showed us?

29:00 The yeses and the noes. The highlights or the yeses, I'm assuming.

29:03 No, actually. So, okay, well, I guess I'll spill this to you guys. But Josh and I are very personable people. This is also a new trend. So for every seating- Are you writing letters? Yeah, we're writing letters to everybody.

29:15 Tanya did this.

29:15 It was very, very sweet.

29:16 So like in my room, I'll get a letter?

29:19 No, when you're at the wedding, like this is your seating chart. You'll open it up and then you'll be a letter for me. But I have more people than Josh. It's not fair. So these are the highlights are me and the non-highlight is Josh.

29:30 Oh, look, it's about 50-50.

29:32 So what?

29:32 It'll say like, Amy, I'm so glad you're at my wedding.

29:35 Amy Sugarman, table 11.

29:36 And then you open up your envelope. Is it going to say, blank, blank, my boyfriend is hot? Although he's not my boyfriend.

29:41 Yeah, Amy's plus one is going to be Mr. Right because that's what she entered.

29:44 Mr.

29:44 Right.

29:45 It's a mystery man.

29:46 Who's this?

29:47 I don't know. She doesn't know.

29:49 I mean, no.

29:50 I kind of know. Who?

29:52 Is it our friend that lives right by this place?

29:56 That's who I was. The friend that lives like in my house sometimes. no oh no you're thinking of the i got two the other one that lives right near where the wedding is yeah that's my.

30:06 Backup please please they're both so much fun.

30:09 I know just give me a second because hopefully one of the two but do we know if who's the other do i know the other yes you do of course yeah he's so obvious i don't want to say the name can someone put it on the screen name what's her You know him well. You've known him for 20 plus years. Oh, okay.

30:30 I like both. So I'm happy with both.

30:31 Yeah, they're both great.

30:33 Danielle just really likes one.

30:34 But they don't get a letter. I know.

30:35 I really love one.

30:36 They don't get a letter. No, I'm going to write a letter. I'm going to say whoever you are.

30:42 I love you because you love Amy.

30:43 Oh, that's so cute. Welcome to my wedding. And then what if there's somebody like Aunt Viv that you barely know? Then I'm going to probably chat GBT something.

30:55 Thank you so much for taking the time out of your weekend to travel here with us.

31:00 Exactly. Thank you for being here. What are you most excited for in a wedding?

31:04 Honestly, like I had my bachelorette this weekend and this is very cheesy, but like I actually was bawling crying on Sunday. Cause I'm like, This is one weekend where people of different chapters of my life are in like together, you know, like my high school friends, my college friends, my new friends, my mom, like your favorite people too.

31:21 And that's like what a wedding is going to be. And I'm like, I can't even imagine because this was a small group and now I'm going to have 200 plus of all the people I love.

31:28 It's crazy. I'm kind of excited for the Saturday day, Danielle, for you and me to just like hang out.

31:33 I think I'm getting a massage.

31:34 Are you bringing the kids? No. Great. So we can like have some like, you can sit by my fire pit.

31:38 I'm struggling with the first dance. Danielle, you weren't on here, but we had Pasha and Danielle choreograph it.

31:45 That's insane, by the way. Stop!

31:48 Are you kidding me?

31:49 Nope.

31:50 Did you meet with them? Nope.

31:53 They do it for people.

31:54 So they send you a video? Yeah, they send a video. I have a.

31:58 Screenshot of it because Tara sent to... How can they send you.

32:02 A video if you don't know the song? Oh, you know the song.

32:05 No, they cut the song for me. I said, I don't want it long. They cut it for me. They choreographed the whole thing and they did a video tutorial being like.

32:12 That's so nice. It's not a jive. Somebody just asked, how do you jive?

32:17 You just have to like watch that video six times over and like.

32:20 Six times it's gonna be more than six times with the fiance I got I mean I was.

32:24 On the dance team oh my god oh my god is it a jive oh my god that's so funny.

32:31 I hope they should do Cameron.

32:33 They should do Dance of the Stars Normie edition just follow the traders.

32:37 Danielle I would love you on that.

32:38 Show wait do you do you reveal what the song.

32:40 Is no I didn't but it's an EDM song.

32:43 An EDM song my walk down the aisle was an EDM song too.

32:48 What was it Danielle?

32:51 Mine was a Calvin Harris song I feel so close to you I had somebody do piano how do you dance to an EDM song?

32:58 It was a piano one.

33:00 But my dad and I are doing like a rock the band will do it Sweet Child of Mine and we have a dance lesson that's cool flying in just to learn the dance because he does not dance I don't think I've ever held his hand.

33:14 That's how it was with my dad, too. When I put my hands around him, I was like, what.

33:17 Am I doing? That just grosses me out. Were you not a debutante, Kendall? No, I was not.

33:25 I don't know why we didn't have that in Indiana.

33:28 My poor dad had to waltz with me and he was just like, you're not great.

33:31 Your lawyer father had to waltz with you.

33:36 And he's like, you're not great.

33:37 What was your father-daughter song?

33:40 Some cheesy... I.

33:41 Let both of my parents.

33:43 Or I let my dad pick out our song and then John's mom pick out their song. I don't even, I couldn't even tell you what, it was some country song.

33:51 Cute, cute.

33:51 That made my dad cry.

33:52 And that's all that matters. Like watching you grow up.

33:56 Yeah.

33:57 It was like my little princess.

33:59 I don't know.

34:00 Who knows?

34:00 Just one of those.

34:01 One of those.

34:02 I couldn't even tell you what the song was called or who it was, but it was one of those.

34:06 Oh my God.

34:06 Too good.

34:07 Wow. This is all a whole lot of stuff.

34:10 Kendall, do you feel like your relationship is more under stress or are you guys getting closer through this?

34:15 Oh, we hate each other right now.

34:16 I know.

34:18 I'm so scared. I remember.

34:20 I'm calling my rabbi on speed dial. My husband will not care that I said this, but there was one day that we had, because what we did, the advice we got before we started planning our wedding is you pick the times, like make it a business meeting so that you don't like when you talk about the wedding.

34:39 So let's just say Thursday nights at 8 PM from eight to nine is when you talk about the wedding. And other than that, you don't talk about the wedding, right? So that it doesn't consume you. I remember one week, it was like maybe like a month before our wedding. I was like going through like a planner and And John and I just got in this big fight and I just threw the binder across the room.

34:58 I was like, I hate this. You got violent about it?

35:04 I threw the binder across the room.

35:08 Oh, there goes my first of all. Everybody drink. Forget this. Oh my God, I would have loved if you canceled it. That would have been iconic. I wonder, is there a such thing where somebody can just, they go, my wedding date is like, you know, June 8th. It's at this place. They hire the wedding planner and they say, see you then.

35:29 I'm sure very well.

35:30 That's what I would do. I would say do that.

35:34 Yeah.

35:35 First of all, I would never have a wedding. I'm not cut out for it. I don't mind throwing parties. Like I'm throwing my sorority party. I'm not throwing it, but like, but you like to plan. I only like to do the planning. If the party is not my party where it's a collective group, like my whole sorority group is throwing the party. I don't mind picking the slider bar and the potato bar. Do you know what I'm saying? And I don't mind being like, oh, I'll get the flowers done. I don't mind doing the task, but I could never do a wedding because I can't have it be like, I'm at your party. That just makes my whole insides crumble. Danielle, what about for your kid?

36:14 Is it different feeling?

36:16 Yeah, it's a different feeling. I feel like throwing a birthday party for your kid is easy.

36:22 Yeah, I know.

36:23 I feel like we, yeah. But back to the wedding. I feel like the problem with that, Amy, is that weddings are so personal.

36:33 Like, do you want this?

36:34 Do you want that? What's wrong? Do they have to be that way? Can't you just break and go, I'll just see you on the 8th. I'll be there.

36:40 I guess.

36:41 I mean.

36:41 But then it won't feel like your love story. yeah personable touches all.

36:47 This is a is a no I would just know I like literally a lope yeah or I'll just be like thanks for the ring we're good we good Kurt and Goldie that crap.

36:56 I respect that I also tell my friends I have some friends who are like really hesitant about getting married I don't know if this is like a hot take but I'm like don't be scared.

37:03 Of divorce oh that's an interesting take.

37:06 I don't know why I feel that way I like that's a good divorce I understand.

37:10 But I'm saying, you know, like, don't be afraid of it. Unless it's a real pain in the butt splitting up the.

37:16 Money and the house and the cars and the clothes and the couch. I know, it's easy for me to say now, but that's why maybe get, I don't know.

37:20 It's hard to split a couch.

37:22 I had a friend say that too. She was like, you know, you get married, but there's always divorce.

37:26 And I was like, oh, wow.

37:28 Not in a bad way, but like, don't be afraid. Not in a bad way. Give it a try. Not in a bad way. It's just, it's common. Unless you get married in the church.

37:37 But then you have to like, do you have to go through any special circumstances, annulment and all that, you know?

37:41 Right. I'm excited to come to your wedding, Kendall. Thank you. Because I don't have to do anything but worry about my outfit. I literally, my only task is making my hair awesome and my outfit great. Yeah, I know. My room is done. No elevator room. no elevator. It's on the way from one of my houses to another one of my houses. Super convenient. Yeah, no, I really appreciate it.

38:08 You really put me first in the whole thing. I appreciate it so much. You deserved the blender I sent you or whatever. Dumb wedding gift. That's another thing. It's like all those gifts. You're like, now I just have a bunch of kitchen gadgets I'll never use.

38:25 Yeah, my mom put like a honey jar and I just got that in the mail and I'm like, honey jar? Why do I have a honey jar?

38:30 Who's taking the honey out of the jar and pouring it into your honey jar? Not me.

38:35 Yeah, Kendall's just getting money from me because... That's what I did for Danielle.

38:39 I actually, when Danielle got married, I gave her money. She did. For you, I just wanted to get you one of the things on your list.

38:47 Oh, Josh loves it. You made his day.

38:49 What was it?

38:50 It was just like a really cute white... retro smeg yeah.

38:53 Try to pick the like yeah one of the like legit things people it was the perfect gift i'm going to an engagement party for my friend who actually danielle i can't wait for you to meet her she's probably going to be like part of our team soon but yeah she's amazing and she's 52 my age first get time getting married oh what do you get that person She doesn't even, she's not registering. She doesn't want any of that because she's like, I'm 52.

39:21 I have all that.

39:22 Are we going to weigh somewhere? Gift card to Ojai Valley Inn. Yeah.

39:25 Well, I was thinking like, you don't think like a piece of jewelry.

39:28 Is no because a wedding it should be for two people yeah then.

39:32 It's just who says that for Tanya I just got Tanya a little diamond butterfly Robbie didn't need anything I don't care about What Josh wants, I care about. Kendall wants.

39:43 I guess I'm with Danielle. Like usually with wedding gifts, I think about both. But if you just care about her, then.

39:51 Otherwise, you guys like like a weekend away? Yes.

39:55 Okay, cute. Give her to Ojai Valley Inn on call it a day.

39:57 Or like a couple's massage and then a dinner after.

40:00 I don't know. Or like, I get it. You could do a little night in Carmel or something.

40:05 Yeah. Some of the best gifts I got were one, money, but two, like, This is my favorite restaurant after the wedding.

40:14 Enjoy a night on us.

40:15 And it was like a very hefty.

40:17 Gift card somewhere.

40:19 So you guys know Fess Parker in Los Olivos? Do you guys know that?

40:23 Yeah.

40:24 Guess how long I've had the gift card to that place. Oh, no. Nine years.

40:28 You also have to know who you're talking to.

40:30 Nine years.

40:30 You're not going to Fess Park.

40:32 But I would because I do go to Los Olivos, but like I've never used it in nine years.

40:37 Would you ever re-gift? Like give that gift card to someone who'd use it?

40:43 Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't portray it as a gift. I'd be like, hey, Kendall, do you want this?

40:48 Right, because I've done that.

40:50 Yeah, that I do. Anyway, this is like great stuff.

41:01 Does anybody care about Million Dollar Secret? No, I don't even know what it is.

41:05 What is it? What is it? What is it?

41:08 Well, West Wilson is on it. So that gives me the ick, major ick.

41:13 But what is it about?

41:14 Is West Wilson icky? Is he in Scamanda?

41:17 Yes, he is very, very icky.

41:19 Oh my gosh, I've done something. Just so you guys know, all my notes, I just accidentally clicked off. So I'm flying blind now, guys. I'm just raw dogging this pod now. It's like Netflix's version of Traders. It's bad. Well, all right. I don't care. Yeah, you know what we didn't talk about in Gilmore Girls Gazette, if anybody listens to our other show? The Hamsters got a new show. So somebody remind me to watch that. The Hamsters got a new show that looks pretty good.

41:48 The American something where he plays a journalist that he gets called by the.

41:53 Guy who's... Something like that, yeah. And then I want to watch Neely, you know, the Reacher spinoff. But Wes Wilson, whatever.

42:00 Could he have a comeback?

42:03 No.

42:03 No.

42:04 No one cares.

42:06 I hate to break it to everyone on this meeting or this recording, but we only have a few more minutes. And I am desperately needing to talk about two very important things. One, Taylor Swift announces the encore.

42:17 What is that? I don't know any of this. What does that mean?

42:20 So last year, she released the album, The Life of a Showgirl.

42:23 Right?

42:23 You know that.

42:25 So what she said in... I think it was an Instagram post. She had said that after the release of The Life of a Showgirl, she went to Sweden because she collapsed on the album with Max and Shellback. And she went to go visit them to celebrate. And in lieu of celebrating, they were like, let's get in the studio while we're here.

42:46 As Taylor Swift does.

42:47 And basically made... another I can't tell if it's a mini album or a full like four songs four songs.

42:56 So you guys are gonna get new Taylor Swift music.

42:59 We're getting Beyond Four to the life of a.

43:01 Show girl on Friday like tomorrow yeah.

43:05 Yeah what are you guys stoked I'm stoked I'm excited but I'm also kind of fatigued I like oh okay I need like a second the one thing that Taylor Swift doesn't do which I love and hate I love it but it's also come on is there's not enough time in between things for me to miss it.

43:25 Oh. Does that make sense?

43:27 Sure.

43:27 Yeah.

43:28 Well, then go back to 1989. I always go back to the Reputation album, you know?

43:31 Like the 10 folklore albums I haven't been able to get through. I'm so stuck on trying to listen to those.

43:36 Oh, I love those. Easy listening. That seems like it might be a you problem, Danielle.

43:40 It might be a me problem.

43:41 Yeah, this might be a you problem.

43:43 We get new music all the time.

43:46 I'm not like a super Taylor Swift like you guys are, but I do think that Taylor and Travis are legit cool. I do too. I'm like, you know what? I like these two. You'll never tell me different. I like these two.

44:01 This is her first music as a, as a missus. So I'm, I'm excited to hear it.

44:04 I'm here for it.

44:06 I mean, good. Congratulations. I'm happy for you. What else you got?

44:09 Secondly, we have to, we have, I don't know how we've gone through almost an hour of this podcast without talking about the Channing Tatum burner account.

44:16 Because I actually don't think it's his. And so he came out and said, it's not his. And I kind of believe him.

44:25 I kind of believe him, but I don't want to believe him.

44:28 Why would a burner account follow Channing Tatum?

44:32 No, it was the reverse. He followed the burner account. He was the only person that followed the burner account.

44:37 So did that put him under investigation? Oh, that's weird. Okay. So he followed the burner account. Is that so he could easily access the comments being made to his burner account's comments? Yes. I don't know.

44:49 I don't know.

44:50 So what's his reason for following this account that had no one?

44:54 He doesn't address it. So that's kind of the thing.

44:56 So what his statement was, I truly can't believe y'all think this is what I'm doing with my free time.

45:04 F-ing hilarious.

45:05 And it doesn't like.

45:06 Okay.

45:07 Is there a world where he followed the burner account because he discovered that this account was being snarky and he liked it?

45:14 Maybe, but then you go to that account, you realize they have no other followers.

45:17 Why are you following it?

45:18 But why would they have no other followers?

45:22 The only other thing that I would say is if it is your burner account, you're not following it from your main account because you want it to be a burner account. It's not like you want more follows over there.

45:30 This is sussy.

45:31 I feel like there's a lot of things here that are very sussy.

45:34 But I will say the comments that they posted, it was a lot about Zoe and like whatever and kind of dogging on Zoe and Harry or whatever.

45:42 They're really kind of funny.

45:45 And I'm like, I kind of wish it was Channing. Comments are the people right in the comments. I got to hand it to you because, oh boy, do I laugh so hard.

45:56 Like, you know, I say it.

45:58 Channing came out and said, yo, you guys caught me. Sorry.

46:02 This is my Finsta.

46:03 LOL.

46:04 Well, this is how.

46:05 You guys, this is like me listening to the podcast. Gerbil. Yeah.

46:11 No, I don't listen.

46:12 Okay.

46:13 Anyone on this call, anyone on this call, and we'll talk about this more next week. If I say the word gerbil, What does it mean to you? The animal.

46:23 The animal. But I know that there's a podcast.

46:27 Anyone else? Stay tuned for next week.

46:29 That's a good one to leave on.

46:30 Thank you. Thank you so much. See you next week. Oh my goodness. Bye guys. Bye. Bye.