Double Champ Growth Mindset That Builds Unstoppable Leaders ft. Lorenzo "The Juggernaut" Hunt

0:00 For example, I got all my kids in the car and we run out of gas. I jump out of the car and start pushing before it even stops. The kids are like, Oh my God, it's going so fast now. I got to work out in. Now I got to work out in. I didn't stop. I didn't wait for help. I didn't bang on the steering wheel. I didn't lose my mind.

0:17 I didn't call it roadside service. I pushed this bitch for a mile to the gas station. Now I'm stronger. I've worked on my cardio today. I got the gas. Everybody's happy, we riding up. I don't see problems as a curse. I see them as a blessing and and tell people mature enough to welcome their problems, they will never truly welcome their blessings nor will they appreciate them. You won't appreciate nothing you didn't work hard for. Before we dive back into today's conversation, I want to share something important.

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3:39 He is the destroyer, the showstopper, the pressure, the storm. Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for the raided, defended, unstoppable, undeniable. The one, the only, the man, the meat and the legend. Lorenzo the Juggernaut. I gotta give you an A+ plus for that introduction, man. You, you might be looking for another job, man.

4:18 You trying to be the guy that do that? He's trying to be the announcer. Shit, that was Fireman. Wow. Thank you very much, brother. Thank you very much, brother. You know, we love to give people their flowers on this podcast. And of course, you know, I'm going to do the gentle one now, huh? We've done the Bruce warfare introduction.

4:38 Let's do the corporate style introduction. So today we are joined by a man whose name sends shockwaves through the world of combat sports, a champion built through the willpower beat and a level of discipline that only the bold choose to embrace. Lorenzo the juggernaut hunt. He's not just a BKFCA light heavyweight champion who is a global lesson in Brazilians, the invention and the power of refusing to bow to any challenge.

5:07 His latest victory was not just a knockout, it was a statement that echoed across the sport. His collar of platinum. Mike Perry has ignited conversation around what good will come the most anticipated BKFC showdown of all time Champions. Today's session is going to stretch your mindset, you hope your ambition and remind you how greatness is built. Let's step into the vena of discipline, identity, and the psychology behind becoming unstoppable. Your friends, all the Juggernaut funds, you all welcome once again to the Kingdom's partners.

5:45 Thank you, brother. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate that introduction. Funny story real quick, like I used to hear that in my head when I would sleep before I was fighting. I used to hear Lorenzo the Juggernaut, huh? It was like, oh, some weird, like premonition, like some weird. I wasn't a fighter.

6:10 Yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't a boxer. I'd but I would, I would hear that sometimes in my sleep and I'm like, shit. And I just followed it out. You know, one day they asked me like, hey, what's your fight name? And I just like Juggernaut, you know, and I just rolled with it, you know, went through amateurs and then and nobody ever said it.

6:28 Nobody ever said it right. Like I heard it in my dream. They always chopped it up. They always kind of made it, you know, in the amateurs. And then when I fought my first pro fight for bare knuckle for BKFC and the announcer guy, he, he, he did it just like I heard it before, years before. I knew I was in the right. I knew I was where I was supposed to be. That's amazing.

6:56 I actually want to touch on that because what you're talking about right now is like in people spend 10s of thousands of dollars trying to figure this stuff out. Thank you so much for being on our podcast. By the way, this is my first time meeting you. We're going to talk about a subject that is amazing, obviously bare knuckle combat sports.

7:20 A lot of people we know about UFC, a tonne of people might not know who you are, might not know the type of champion you are, might not even really understand how amazing or different bare knuckle fighting is. You know, if you grow up in the streets anywhere, you know what bare knuckle fighting is just from being in your household or knowing somebody or going to high school. We figure it out.

7:46 A lot of times we don't know. This is actually an entire industry of professional fighting as well. So again, thank you so much for being here. I do want to touch on that really quick because what you're speaking about is not only visualisation, but I can touch on prophecy in a way. A lot of times what we're able to do when we are connecting with our sole purpose in our dream life is through imagination and visualisation.

8:16 So for a lot of people watching, a lot of people we bring on this podcast, we talk about mindset, skill set, and just connecting with their business, their sole purpose in the way that they can live out their true desires. So the fact that the first thing you say is, hey, I actually used to hear that years before it came out, my imagination connected with my highest desire, came into connection with what I'm supposed to be, what I'm supposed to do. And you knew what your name was meaning like God or your spirit or your higher self or universe or whatever you want to call it, instructed that you told you what that was so that when it showed up in your reality, you knew. That's a massive sign.

9:04 That's amazing. So I just want to touch on that. Cause a lot of people when we're trying to figure this thing called life out, when we're trying to figure out our business, trying to figure out our dreams. Obviously you becoming a world champion of bare knuckle boxing is you chasing a dream, chasing your highest purpose, chasing something other people didn't know that you were.

9:26 You had to step into the ring, convince other people to know who you are. And it came in first through the spirit, came in first through a vision, came in first through something in your mindset that only you knew. That's amazing. I want to talk a little bit about your origins. I know you're from Cleveland.

9:49 Yeah. Ohio from the Midwest. Yeah, in the United States. Yeah, we call it Oh hell. No, we call it oh hell. No, Oh hell no. Oh hell no. I mean, I've been to Cleveland for a minute. I think I went to a concert in Cleveland one time. But it's so funny, like Ohio in general, I feel like there's like a running joke, like in the United States is about Ohio. You know, even if you're in like a hub like Cleveland or whatever, it's like, OK, well, you're still in Ohio. It's like when you're so when you're growing up in Ohio in the Midwest and you're getting these visions or you're kind of saying, OK, I think I want to fight what other than was there anything else outside of that, like just us knowing or just these visions are having roaming

10:39 up or you're like, OK, bare knuckle is bare knuckle is Elaine, I'm going. No, I would say no. Like I really didn't have a lot of clues into what the future will hold for me, other than the fact that I never really had any peace. And I had to learn how to fight and how to survive and how to be hyper attentive to my surroundings and how to, you know, navigate this world, this very violent world. The world was very violent towards me. I never really understood why, but my father, thank God, I had my father.

11:16 My father's like a like a giant, you know, just a giant in this world. And he taught me discipline and he taught me how to he, he, he helped me understand that this is just the way it is. The world can be violent. The world can be nasty. The world is designed to try to hurt you, to try to stifle you, to try to force you to yield.

11:40 And, and he instilled in me, we never yield. You never yield. That's the reason you hear you will never yield. And so my father just taught me that from a very, very young age. He was very militant. He never let me like celebrate my birthday. He never let me accept gifts from people. He used to make me, you know, stand up straight and stand tall and stand with your chest out and don't talk too much. And, you know, he would kind of control me with his, with his eyes or like, you know, with his emotions. And, and like we were, we became best friends because I became exactly what he envisioned, you know, he wanted me to be a strong, independent thinker, a solid man just like him. And he watched me.

12:25 He watched me do it. And he was like, shit, you're amazing, dude. And I'm like, bro, it's you. You know, we go back and forth like it's you. No, it's you. It's you. No, it's you, bro, it's you. So, yeah, that's, that's what I got out of Cleveland. You know, other than that, you know, it was a wild ride. You know, I I grew up in down the way and like in, in the worst parts of Cleveland.

12:48 I grew up like 71st between 71st and 79th. The Huff area. I don't know if you ever heard about it, but like Bone Thugs and Army, you know, E 99, like I, I grew up in I used to live in a garden Valley projects like they tore it down. There's nothing but a field there now. Like it, it was like the worst, like the worst possible place. And growing up, now that we know why those places were created, what they were designed to do, they did exactly what they were designed to do.

13:20 And I was supposed to be just another victim of that madness, of that madness that was Cleveland, OH. Inner city gangs, drugs, needles, prostitution, just just yes, madness. It was complete madness. Pissy hallways, just nastiness. And. And I'm even making me think about it is like, yeah, yeah, it's it's a little unsettling. Yeah.

13:54 Like third. World so no, it seriously third world it gives third world and like I say that like I'm from Flint MI. So with that being said, I deeply relate to what you're saying. You know, where those environments are created to serve a purpose and they are doing exactly what they're supposed to do, which is insane because and I want to touch on even you saying like in me being brought up in that to the world or to that environment, if I'm to serve that environment to serve that purpose, that means I become a victim and I become a statistic. And I relate to that very, very deeply. Just being from a very similar background and you know, crazy family, all this stuff, right?

14:50 So it's like you mentioned how your father was kind of kind of a spine, kind of a spine for you, gave you a spine, said sit up, get up and stand up straight. And yeah, everything around you is going to try and is designed to break you down to that level. And your father served as a spine for people, for men in this country.

15:21 I want you to speak to men right now because you know, men in general, obviously men of colour, black men in this country and men in general, maybe they're they turn to fighting for one reason or another. And I would say that your position in bare knuckle right now gives you a title of obviously a role model, being somebody who had a father who gave them a spine.

15:54 Like what's something that you would want to instil for men who come from similar environments who maybe don't have that? Like, what do you think is like the number one? If you could say like one thing to those types of people, what would you say? I mean, I can put it really quite simply. First, let me retouch on.

16:20 I saw my brother's face when I said Third World, you know, third world environment. That's not because I come from the third world. That's fire. No, no, no, no, that's that's not a shot. That's listen, listen to me. That's not a shot. Just joking. I'm just joking. That's not a shot. That's not taking a shot.

16:41 That's not taking a shot at any other place. What you have to understand, what you have to understand though, is that everywhere that I've been in my life, all the other countries, everywhere that I've seen that they were told me were Third World, none was worse than where I was from. So you may have the label of Third world, but I lived in it and, and there's a, there's a difference, bro, there's a difference. We lived in food deserts, no fruit on the tree, no seeds, no flower, no grass.

17:19 You understand? I, I grew up in a place with no grass, like, let alone an apple or a heart. So, so like, and, and with that being said, like I said, I, I literally hit the lottery when I got my mother and my father because they teamed up. They never split up and they just attacked the world back-to-back like, like freaking like a, like a lion couple and they just was like, they were inseparable. So what I would say to the men in the world, what I would say to the you guys are the role models, the architects, the the I'm looking up to you as a child, as these children. They're looking up to you whether you want them to or not. They're emulating you, they're copying you. They're learning what it means

18:09 to be a man just from watching you. And it doesn't matter if it's your child, if it's your nephew, if it's the neighbour kid, it doesn't matter if it's the kids down the street. You're all of their fathers, you're all of their uncles, you're all of their. So if you get a chance to throw a ball with them, if you get a chance to tell them, hey, pull your pants up, that's not right.

18:30 If you get a chance to tell them, hey, stand up straight, poke your chest out, Then you tell them. You tell them all. You teach them all. You show them all something because you're their senior. You're their sensei, No matter what it is. It doesn't matter if you're a Carpenter. It doesn't matter if you're a policeman.

18:43 It doesn't matter if you're a soldier. It doesn't matter what you are. You all know something. You've been here longer. And so we can guide. Hey, hey, kids, come here. And like, I'm not just speaking from, I'm not just speaking like, you know, like a role model, like some sort of some sort of guy on TV that's just talking like come here, come here, come here.

19:04 Hurry up, hurry up. I am, I am all of those things like here's my daughter. Here's my daughter. See, we, we, we got this figured out. Come here, come, hurry up. Come here. Like I'm, I'm telling you like, they, they, they are to be, you know, here's my son. Why you hiding? Say hi, Say hi. Hi. Hi. Hi.

19:30 He just woke up. So, like, I got a few more up there too. So like, I'm done. Thank you. She she loves the cameras. So, so yeah. So we're like, we have a chance to affect the future, to affect the world, to affect the the people in it, to show them what was capable and even to the women too. Now come on, come on, our women, come on. Somebody got to teach these girls how to stand up straight. Somebody got to put a book on their head to teach them how to walk with heels on.

20:03 Somebody got to teach them how to put. Deodorant on. Now how to be womanly? Like this shit is getting weird. Like somebody got to take responsibility for that, you know, just like my father made me a real man. Y'all have to make these women, these little girls real women. Like stop pointing the finger and then teach them. I teach them like it's they got to be taught. So I would say yeah, just pass it, pass it on, you know, pass it forward.

20:33 You know, show them how strong you can be. Show them you can overcome anything. You know, I go to the track with my, with my oldest daughter and we, we, I run with her when she's getting ready for her workouts and the, and the guys are like, that's your dad. Oh my God, he's fast. Who is that guy?

20:50 Like, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm with it, I'm with it. I show up. You know what I mean? And that's all you got to do is show up. You don't got to be rich. You don't got to be a millionaire. You don't got to just show up. Just show up. And that's the advice that I would give, you know, to these guys, hey, man, show up.

21:06 Show up for the neighbour kid, Show up for your kids. Show up for your sister's kids. Show up. Just show up. You know, that's all. That's all it takes. Yeah, absolutely. When it gets. So is there anything else that you kind of want to touch on when you talk about the mindset and what you really witnessed with your parents giving you this guideline, helping you really navigate this crazy situation you are born into and or how maybe you even got into fighting, maybe how you even gotten a bare knuckle in the 1st place. Like anything you want to touch on about all your origins at all.

21:52 Yeah, so like I said, my mother and father is like a 1-2 punch, like, you know, like like like a, a dynamic duo. Like even right now, if I pick up the phone, if I call my dad, my mom will answer. If I call my mom's phone, my dad will answer. Like I, I know if I want to talk to my dad, call my mom's phone. Like it is, It's crazy because that, you know, there's nothing wrong with that symbiotic relationship, that real love, that true dependency.

22:18 People forgot everybody's independent this independent that. I want my own this. I want my own that like, well, hold up, wait a minute. We're not designed to be alone. Stop that nonsense right now. You like, that's that's like having one hand. Like, what the hell? How you gonna juggle with one hand? Like, come on, like you gotta, you need some help. Like you, you need some help, You know, so, so like everybody's out trying to go at it alone and it, it's just, it's just you, you're killing yourself. So yeah, I watched my mom and dad do the 1212 punch thing, The Karate Kid thing.

22:55 They, they were, they were awesome, an awesome team. You know, they gave each other leeway. They both made mistakes. They, they, they, they didn't beat each other up about it. They just, you know, they just, they just roll with the punches. And we watched that, you know, me and my sisters and brothers, we just watched it.

23:11 And so Lorenzo, the same. I still live that way, you know? Lorenzo, what's up? Yeah, just a quick joke. So who, who was the jab and who was the hook? Oh, my mom's the jab. My mom's the jab. I I guess it's not my mom's. My mom will start the shit. She will. She will be the initiator of everything, whether it's good or bad or whatever.

23:41 She's the first to jump. My dad is definitely the hook. Like he's definitely the two. He's definitely going to pull up like my your like a jab will start some shit, but a hook is going to finish. He's going to finish the job. He's going to put the two and two together. He's going to make what the jab initiated possible.

24:01 He's going to finish the job, you know? Yeah, that that's the jab in the hook all day. Yeah, my mom is definitely the dive. She'll she'll get some shit jumping and then my dad will come make it real. You know, so where the fights where the fights in South for orthodox? My my mom and dad is left-handed.

24:19 Oh wow, S for then. So that's another clue. That's another clue as to why these why these left-handed dudes don't stand a chance in hell. Every slap, every pop, every it came out of the left out of the right right southpaw stance. So they, not they, you don't stand a chance to, if you're a lefty, you, you're done.

24:42 You're done. I think I got out of the, out of the 10 knockouts in a row that I got like, I, I think seven of them were lefties, like 7 or 8 of them were left-handed guys that thought that southpaw would be tricky for me. No, go to sleep, go to sleep. So yeah, like it's it's been a while ride, man. I'm I'm really blessed to have took in so much negativity and learned how to remould it and reform it and change it into positivity.

25:16 My father literally taught me that's the pain is the blessings, the pressure is the blessing. The problems are the blessings. When you play for breast, when you pray for blessings, you're praying for problems that you can overcome. So when you pray for shit, it's going to get heavy you. Have to prove yourself.

25:41 I hate that. I hate. How true that is, I hate. It. Lorenzo, Lorenzo, Lorenzo, I have a question for you. I have a question for you. I have a question for you. Now I am suspecting something. Did yourself and Doela, did you guys go to the same school? Because you guys seem to be from the same. No, because she no, she she has told me the same thing you were telling me before.

26:02 I mean the the school of the school of Hard Knocks. No, Listen to. Listen to the. School of some real shit, no? It it creates, it creates for me, for me the perseverance and the, the, the, the pressure creates the perseverance in me that no one can calculate. No one can understand how excited I get when I have a problem. Well, that's The thing is perseverance, like when we talk about perseverance and we talk about So what you're actually speaking on, I just want to touch on it real quick. I'm like very intellectual about a lot of things and I have to pick them out for our audience because it's so important for us to not only show how great you are, but to teach others exactly the science and the spirituality

26:56 of what's going on so they can apply it to their lives. What you're actually speaking about is transmutation. So taking the energy of whatever is going on, which is the problem which we hate. A lot of times it breaks us down and we just try to avoid it, or we try to get the problem to go away. And then once it goes away and we feel a little bit at ease, we can be on a completely different path or the wrong path a lot of times to even get to what we actually want, which is, you know, it could be a mindset shift. It could be a personal transformation, as it usually is, as what the human experience is, is a personal transformation.

27:37 But transmutation is when you take the energy of whatever is coming into your life, whether it's anger or whether it's a massive problem or whether it's, you know, stubbornness or anything like that. And you literally move it into the energy of what you actually want. So just really want to speak on that because it sounds like that's something that you've mastered.

28:04 And that's why you get excited. That's why you get excited when you're faced with a problem is because you've figured out how to transmute the energy from something negative to positive. And that's also why like going even a tiny bit deeper for our audience, why when we talk about light, light and darkness, right? Why there is no light without the darkness. And when we're working with energy or when we're working, you know, towards our goal towards I can talk towards our sole purpose or whatever it is, it's because we need a lot of times.

28:45 And this isn't all the time. This does not apply to everybody, but definitely applies to me and applies to I would say 99.9% of people at least some point in their life. You know, someone like me, it's, but sometimes you'll go through periods where it's a lot of dark and not a lot of light. It's because that, like you said, that problem is the blessing, because when you're in the darkness, that's the that's where you build the skill of transmutation, that's where you build. It yeah, I call it turning pressure into power. So like a. 100%.

29:22 Yeah, so, so like even just to give you an example from my last fight, when I say to you that I get excited when I'm faced with the problem or faced with the challenge, I'm talking like like near arousal. Like this is like my this is my time to shine. Like this is it. So the guy punches me in the back of the head and knocks me down. What do I do?

29:51 I get up and clap for him. I saw that wife watch watch this mother fucker watch this OK Yeah, You you did that Yeah, I'm I'm happy for you watch this go to sleep. You're going to sleep now When I when I, when I said, when I say like I'm, I get excited when my, when the problem arise, because I know that the blessing and I know that the, the, the, the treasure is right behind the issue, right?

30:29 That that whatever arose, for example, I got all my kids in the car and we run out of gas. I jump out of the car and start pushing before it even stops. The kids are like, Oh my God, it's going so fast. Now I got to work out in. Now I got to work out in. I didn't stop. I didn't wait for help. I didn't bang on the steering wheel. I didn't lose my mind.

30:53 I didn't call roadside service. I pushed this bitch for a mile to the gas station. Now I'm stronger. I've worked on my cardio today. I got the gas. Everybody's happy. We riding up. I don't see problems as a curse. I see them as a blessing. And until people mature enough to welcome their problems, they will never truly welcome their blessings, nor will they appreciate them. You won't appreciate nothing you didn't work hard for. You won't appreciate nothing you didn't put in, put, put in that work for.

31:33 You know that you didn't. You had to be here before you got there. I'm all about that shit. Run it. Run me my fade. Like if you got it, if you strong, show me. If you can knock me down, do it now you show me you can knock me down. Show me you can get up. When I knock you down, they don't usually get up.

31:56 They usually get back up. They're usually I practise, yeah. I practise getting up though. And I mean, I practise getting up. You know, mentally people will be like, why would you practise getting up? That means you're going to, that means you're, you're going to fall. Yes, I plan it. Yes, I'm probably going to fall.

32:14 That's life. But I'm going to get up, you know, I'm I'm definitely going to get up. That's been the story of my life. It ain't about not falling. It's about getting up. Love that, love that we're going to have AI kind of move into a little bit more about your mindset and really your identity as the Juggernaut AI. How you feeling?

32:40 Whoa, I am, I am excited. I'm blessed to have you, brother. But I think I have a little surprise for you, Lorenzo. Anyways, no, Noella is a singer, is a singer here. I am the assistant singer. So I'm going to start this song. If you are. Oh, my God, you are a superstar. I don't. I don't know. They're ready.

33:05 I don't know the rap. I don't know. That wasn't so clearly my head brother. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know that song. I know like melody. No, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a fire. It's a fire song. Honestly, it's a fire song. But to be, to be perfectly honest, to be perfectly truthful, bro, I don't see myself as a superstar.

33:30 I don't see myself as a celebrity. I don't see myself in those ways, bro. I'm just a regular guy. I'm just a regular guy with his family at Waffle House chilling. When I go to Walmart, I buy cereal and almond milk just like you. I, I, I make pancakes for the kids just like you. I put gas in my car. Just, I tell myself I'm not, I'm not a superstar. I don't have no desire to be a superstar. I just want to take care of my family and do my thing. I'm a martial artist.

33:56 I'm very good at what I do. I take pride in my, in my work ethic and my ability to shine in my little area. The, the, the stardom part is like what, 2 minutes? How long was my fight is a minute like, and even in that moment, I'm not thinking about, I don't have the weight of, of, of, of being a star or being embarrassed or anything on me when I'm fighting. So you knock me down.

34:21 So you, you, you punched me. So what? Like I'm not weighted down or embarrassed by my actions in any way, shape or form. I'm just genuine. If you knock me down, you knock me down. If you hit the shot, you hit the shot. If you, if you beat me, you beat me, I'll you know, I'll be back. I never really let the Super stardom thing or the celebrity thing get to me, even to the point to where like when people approach me for pictures or for, for, for when they approached me for pictures or they, they approached me for autographs.

34:52 Sure, whatever. Like I'll sign whatever. I'll take a picture with whoever it is not, I'm not diva like I'm, I'm not, I'll probably never entered the diva realm of or leave me alone or no autographs. I don't, I don't see myself that way. No matter how much money is involved, no matter how many people scream my name or love me, I'll just never be that guy.

35:14 I'll never be a superstar or a weirdo. I'm just, I'm just here. I'm just a fighter, you know, I'm just a dad. I'm just a brother. I'm just, you know, I'm just a, a man. I'm just a husband. I'm I'm the things that men should aspire to be. Not, not, not a superstar. You know, I'm just a strong man, you know, I'm just a my father's son. I love that.

35:39 I love that. Now you're reminding me of that song. Bring knock you down. Knock you down this dude, we're going to change your name to jukebox. Change your name to jukebox, bro. No, but really, but really like anybody who knows me, anybody who's ever met me know like bro, I'm I'm sort of the earth. I'm down, I'm down.

35:59 You know, there's a there's a kid I was training for the Mike Richmond fight. So we went up to the top of the mountain in Albuquerque, NM with snowing. Everybody was kind of locked in and there was a car that was stuck in the snow. We were jogging down the mountain trying to get my lungs acclimated to the to the altitude. And I just went over.

36:23 I dug him out with my hands. Me and my crew, we pushed him. We pushed him out. He rolled away. He was like, thanks guys. He didn't know who I was. He was like, thanks guys, thank you. Later on, he saw me on the on the news. He saw me on the on the thing. He was like, Hey, that's the guy, that's the guy who dug me out the snow.

36:42 And then he, he did this long blog on the thing. He was like, hey, that guy helped me out of the snow. He was jogging. I never told him why I was or not just helped him out the snow. And I just, I don't know. I don't carry that, that fame like a badge. You know what I mean? I don't, it's not. I'm just doing me the, my regular thing, you know, helping people and, and, and, and, and having fun. And it's turned into like a like a super stardom or like some sort of celebrity status.

37:14 But I'm just having fun. Like I'm in the ring. I'm having fun, I'm training, I'm having fun. I'm I, I was at the gym this morning. I was on live at the gym this morning at 6:00. I'm having fun. Like, I don't know if these guys can beat me if it's a chore for them. And I'm having fun every time I have a problem, it's not a chore. It's I'm having, I'm having a great time, you know? Yeah.

37:38 So we're going to change your name to love. The curse of that song. Sometimes love comes around and it knocks you down. Just give back up and it knocks you down, knocks you down, bro. That's that's that's that's that's Diddy's name. You're going to scare Noella away. Don't say my name to love. OK, OK. We'll leave it as a juggernaut.

38:05 We'll leave it as a juggernaut. So I I actually do have a surprise for you, right? And it's interesting. You, you are beauty. You you're giving me the beauty up to that surprise, right? You've talked about how authentic you are, you know, into social media and other stuff, right. Do you know I interviewed the BKFC president last year, David. Yeah, I heard that.

38:27 I heard that. I think I saw a little, little bit of it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What do you say about me? He always says something different. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to show, I'm going to show you what you said about you, right? But it is what I said. It is what I said about you that is very important here.

38:44 So on that on that interview, I manifested having you on this podcast and it's a full circle moment having you today. You know, when I saw the message from your management team, I was like, wow, interesting. Yeah, I manifested, you know, yeah, it happened. But you know, I've always been a very big admirer of yourself, you know, as a person.

39:07 And you know what you stand for. I've never met you in person. But the real recognizer, real I know what piece of plane is. I know a person with a good mindset, correct mindset. You're an inspiration. You can check your phone, right? I did say I sent you a message. I sent you Adm on Instagram. I think trying to trying to 1st March 2024.

39:32 It's close to two years now, right? And I wanted you on the podcast. I think I need to find what I said to you on that, on that message and that that actually speaks to how much I appreciate you. And by the way, you got me to the BKFCI. I'm a UFC guy. Wow, watching people watching you. You are what?

39:52 Wow, watching people put them down, bro, it's crazy. You know, you brought me to BKFC. Conor McGregor brought me into the UFC. So now I think, yeah, it's one of two now. Like I've manifested having you. Now I'm manifesting having Conor McGregor. So you need to send this to Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor, yo you.

40:17 We want you. Yeah, brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine. That's fine. OK. So I've got to read out the message I sent to you are, I think 21st March 2024. I said hi, Lorenzo. Trust your grades. OK. Let me see. Yeah. Should I? Should I share on the screen? OK. Hi, Lorenzo. Trust your grade. I am an admirer of your authenticity and achievements in life and combat sports.

40:46 I'll appreciate if you can be on my podcast soon. Looking forward to your response. Did I respond? No, I usually do. Read it. Listen. You did not even read it. Listen. If I, if I see it, I usually respond. If like you sent it to me before we were followers or something. I'm still kind of new to it. Like sometimes it keeps it blocks out certain people or block.

41:10 I don't ever see it in my DMS. Absolutely. Can you see it? Can you see it here? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I see it. Yeah. Yeah, I see it. I'll look for it. Yeah, the time stamp is there. I'll look for it. If you send me a new message. Yeah. If you send me a let let me send you a new message, maybe I'll be able to see it. New message.

41:31 Yeah. And then and like I said, make sure I've. If I follow it, does it say that we that I follow you? I don't think so. Does it say that I follow you? Yeah. Dave. Yeah, Dave. OK, OK, OK, so let me tell you, let me show you what Dave said about you or what we said about you. There you go. I see the compass right so right and think the numbers pro. So.

42:07 Sometimes I can in terms of the. Right. So sometimes we have you know what, you have a cash cows, you have a you have a child. I think you lose me. You might have to send it to me and then I can that you guys are the sons. They kind of. That you recruit, that you guys have had, you know, in a very, very short period of time now as a president, you have actually encountered like various challenges and successes, right then can you actually share memorable moments or attempting point significantly impacted the trajectory?

43:53 Let's see, right now, Yeah, I think there was a few of them, but I think most. OK, I'm pretty sure you disconnected. Yeah, I, I pretty much heard it. He was talking about when Conor McGregor came. You know, I, I threw my belt over his shoulder because, you know, Conor McGregor is the fucking champ, bro.

44:18 He he paved the way kind of like I did for BKFC and Connor made it easy because he knew who I was. He was like, holy shit, that's the double champ. When I walked up to him, his security tried to stop me. There was, he was like, bro, no, that's the double champ. Even BKFC security wasn't sure if he would be like, cool with me coming over, you know, so even our own security would try to stop me from, from kicking it with, from kicking it with Dave.

44:51 I mean, from kicking it with, I was telling her that he was just talking about when Connor came to the fight. You know, I'm sitting ringside. I got my girl, I got the belts and I'm like, holy shit, that's Connor. So, you know, I'm walking up to him with two belts. Like, hey, I'm the double champ. Our security, BKFC security tried to stop me. I'm like, bro, I'm the champ.

45:15 They're like, no, no, no, don't go bother him. Conor McGregor's like, hey, hey, hey, that's the champ. What's up double champ? He'd been watching. See what I'm saying? So like even sometimes you have people like or, or getting in the way. You know, the, the, the bureaucrats, the they don't even recognise your, your greatness and you see them every day.

45:39 But somebody like Conor McGregor from all the way overseas flies all the way here in the private jets. He don't know you, he knows me. So I walk up to him and I say, hey, what's up, champ? Da da, da da. And then he he daps me up. He takes pictures with me. He signs my belt. That one of that belt right there got Conor McGregor's signature on it.

46:00 Then we go back to our seats and Mike Perry calls out Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor's no bitch. He's like, nobody can't call me out. You know what I mean? What? So he walks up to the stage. I'm like, hey, Conor, take the belt. He's like, yeah, give him the belt. He walks in the ring, he says I've been here in 10 minutes and I already got that out, you know? And it was like it, it went viral across every platform. MMA, bear, nose, whatever.

46:34 Everybody was like, holy shit, Conor McGregor has a BKFC belt. That was a picture. That was all we needed. Then Dana White commented what's what's kind of doing with that doubt, which brought even more attention to it. You know, and it's just being there. That's that's what I was talking about, like about the divine, you know, following your guidance.

47:00 It's a clear path. Yeah. It's only the idiocy in you that wants to go the hardware, go through the bushes or go to God has created a clear path. It's a clear path. So it was, I was just right there with the belt. It happened again just recently. Christine Ferreira won the Queen of Violence belt and they didn't have her actual belt. And they were like, hey, no, throw up the belt. I got 7 of them, don't worry.

47:31 Yeah, yeah, I got belts for everybody. You know what I'm saying? So I throws Christine a belt. I've been here, like you say, when Dave says like, hey, this dude is, this dude is a Mount Rushmore fighter. Like I'm not just a fighter. I'm thinking I'm the guy who was backstage training Britain Hart when she fought Paige Mazen.

47:56 I'm the guy that trained Julian Lane and gave Julian Lane the cards to throw in Mike Perry face that created the first Mike Perry fight. I'm the guy who called Mike Perry when he was on the couch after he got into the bullshit at the restaurant with the old guy where remember, he was suspended from the USD. He had no, he had no job.

48:21 I called Mike Perry. I reached out to him. I said, bro, you should come to be KFC. They just gave Paige Vanzant a tonne of money. I said you and Alex Nicholson should come here and make noise. I'm the guy that went to Hector Lombard's gym and challenged him, jumped in the ring with him and he punched me in the face.

48:39 Went viral across every platform. It's me. It's it's not just fighting. You understand what I'm saying? You have to be in the room. You have to be be there. You have to put your heart in it. You have to invest in it. I'm that guy. I've I've I've been a part of everything. You know what I'm saying?

48:58 I was ringside when when Elvin Brito got robbed out of his championship against, against. Wow, What the fuck? It was Palomino, You know, I was, I was a part of every Palomino. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a part of everything when it came, when it came to the BKFC growing now, I didn't have money. I came from the tryouts. I didn't come with a bunch of sponsors. I didn't come with with, with with rich guys backing me. I came with my heart.

49:32 I came like, how can I help? I helped carry in cases from the truck when they were setting up. I helped set up the ring. I helped pick up people from the airport. I was the Bugs Bunny. I helped do security. I would break guys up when they would fight on stage. That was me standing next to Dave like I was security.

49:50 The guys would start fighting. I would, I would snatch them up. I made myself a integral part of an organisation that had big dreams and that made me the person I am, you understand? That made me, that helped make me famous. I showed up to every fight. I passed out cards, I took pictures with everybody. Even before I had the belt, I was the same way I am. You know, I brought charities in. I, I, I, I donated portions of my, of my, of my, my purses and I took donations for the National Alliance to end Veteran Suicide.

50:31 I brought attention from the national, from the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation. I did whatever I could do. I'm not rich. I wasn't rich. I came through the tryouts. So regular guy, but if you help somebody, you help yourself. That's the message, you know, and that's why David Feldman's like, bro, this guy, let him do whatever he was like, whatever, whatever, you know, whatever he wants. Like he he don't miss, you know, I'm the I'm I'm telling you, I'm the guy you can call.

51:08 Good morning. You just want to say hi? Say hi. She's our late bloomer. She would not stay out of the way. She was standing there like, can I come? Yeah, I don't. I don't hide my babies. I let them. I let them. I let them shine with me, you know? So, yeah. That this this the way the way it is. I mean, I'm an open book.

51:38 I give courses, I teach classes, I have classes on the Internet. You can YouTube my techniques, my fighting style, my mentality, but the shit that I've been through in this life, it will be like, it will be like trying to use alchemy to recreate gold just because you know the ingredients. Bruh, I'm, I don't even know all the ingredients.

52:06 I'm just telling you the part that I know, the part that I know. This is how I maintain it. This is how I this is how I'm strong in myself and my personality. This is how I speak because I speak the truth. I don't have to stumble across my words. I don't have to make shit up. If I tell you, I'm going to be sure I can tell you.

52:23 If I tell you how I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it. I'm not going to change my mind. So like that genuineness translates into single minded miss and a goal oriented person. Like I'm I'm not changing my mind. Even with Josh Dyer, my plan was to go slow, to let him win a little bit. I did it very, in a very weird way. Nobody's really recognising that. I turned sideways from him and I stuck my foot out. He had to jump across my leg to get close enough to land a punch.

53:09 That's karate, that's martial arts. To be in a karate stance. He didn't recognise. He didn't recognise it, so he did it again. OK, Everybody's like, Oh my God, he's not throwing any punches. What's wrong with Lorenzo? He did it again. Go to sleep. It was the plan. It was the plan. One punch, you're out of here.

53:40 That's karate. That's Kempo. That's martial arts. Go watch martial arts. They don't throw a whole bunch of punches. They go, yeah, and your ass is dead. And they do it a million times. So what I am, I don't know if I can teach it. I can tell you a few things. I can give you some pointers, but I can't I, I don't think I can teach anybody to be me or do it like me.

54:12 I can just tell you how I do what I do, but I don't, I don't know if anybody can do it. You know, I just, I just tossed it up, you know, and this, this honesty and this genuineness is brought me this far. So why abandoned it? You know, that's how I, that's how I rock. Wow, wow. It's really amazing.

54:38 You know how authentic you are. Even though I had, I had never met you, I'd never had interaction with you. I always felt it like this guy is a very genuine person. And of course, you know the time stamps, you know, the, the evidence is there. I, I used to work with the B4 accounting firms. BWCKPMG.

54:57 And you know what? What do you guys call ACPA in the US? I'm a chartered accountant. And there's something we say in the world of accounting, if it was not documented, it was not done. So it's Oh yeah, it's well documented. It is well documented, you know, and I appreciate. Well, honestly, listen, honestly, that's the tip of the iceberg. There is so much about me, so much, so many things I can do. There's so much that you haven't seen that it will blow your mind.

55:31 They just get a little piece of me, just a little tiny piece of me, my family, my kids. Like if I walk you outside, bro, listen, I have a tow truck with a punching bag on the back of it. My wife drives it around the neighbourhood and I run behind her punching the bag. The neighbours are like, Oh yeah, that's, that's the champ.

55:56 That's, that's just, he's just doing his thing. No, no, that's, that's our crazy, our crazy world champion neighbour. You know, I'm, I'm so I'm, I'm so, I'm so out there, you know, I'm, I'm out there with it, but I'm having fun with it too, you know, And now my son, he's like, hey, dad, can I come? Can I come?

56:13 I want to do it, you know, So now I got to a, a, a, a, a, a nine year old, a 10 year old, you know, running behind a tow truck punching A punching bag, you know, and he thinks it's normal. Now, how great will he be? How great will he be? We don't know. No, we we just going to let it happen just because I led him in the direction, you know? Wow.

56:38 Yeah. So, brother, you, you, you, you called out Mike Perry. What was the deeper message behind that call out? They, they the king of violence thing? It irks me. You know, me having the most knockouts in the BKFC, me having the most, the most difficult fights, me, me being the most sensational, The, you know, my fights are the most rewarding.

57:04 You know, I've took in the biggest challenges and I just feel like, you know, having someone walk around and claim to be the king of violence is just nonsense. It's just, it just feels this genuine. And I already told you I'm a genuine person, you know, and then being, you know, considered the face of the KFC and all of that, you know, like, like why? You know, you're, you're, you're just the the highest paid fighter.

57:33 You know, it's not really because you're the best. It's like, you know, it's a real division to me. It I wouldn't want that position if I wasn't the baddest man here. I wouldn't never say a word. I'd be quiet as a mouse. But to be walking around like you're the Conor McGregor of BKFC, bro, you're not, you're not, you're not the superstar. You're you're, you're the guy that you're the you're the guy. They pretend you're Tony the Tiger. You're Tony the Tiger, you know, You're the guy on the box, you know what I'm saying?

58:10 But you're not the guy that made the cereal, bro. Like, you're, you're the guy. Like you're, you're a mascot, you know? And I just feel like, you know, here, imagine this, imagine this. Imagine a BKFC video game hits the shelves and it's Mike Perry on the fucking cover. What? Why? Why would why would he?

58:46 Why? I think it's AUFC influence. I think it's AUFC influence. You know, it's, it's still, it's still. Listen, UFC is our competition. We shouldn't be trying to praise them guys. He's a viewer. He's he's, he flunked out of the UFC. So I get it, you're bringing viewers over. But the homegrown viewership that brought you over, I brought, I was what the, the type of fighting, the type of sensationalist, the type of shit that I was doing brought you over and then you brought over some followers. You see what I'm saying?

59:32 That's like, that's like making Paige Van Zandt the putting Paige Van Zandt on the on the on the BKFC video game poster instead of Christine Ferreira. What what, why? Like what you, you get what I'm trying to say. So it's it, it bothers me. How about Britain hearts? Britain hearts. She can get it.

59:56 She she, she been here the whole time. Shit, the only person beater is Christine, you know what I'm saying? They, they've been going, they've been in a civil war for seven years. They've been going at each other next for seven years. Like it's got to be one of them. Shit, you can put them both on there, but not Paige. You you see what I'm saying?

1:00:17 Like you got to you got to. In a perfect world, the people who built it would get the credit. We know that's not always the case and that's why I called out Mike Perry and that's why he's quiet as a mouse. He's quiet as a mouse. The King of Violence was called out and didn't say anything. What kind of king is that?

1:00:48 The King of Violence was called out by the most dangerous fighter in the BKFC. And you didn't say anything, you didn't reply. That's got to be a little bit embarrassing. How, how do you envision this fight, you know, panning out? Because you guys are not in the same weight division and there are weight divisions for a reason. You are the bigger fighter.

1:01:17 He was the bigger fighter when he fought Jeremy Stevenson. Nobody cared that Jeremy Stevenson fought from a lighter weight class. They lined it up and they put his ass out there right? He fought Jake Paul. Jake Paul's my size, he's £200. He took his ass over to boxing and fought it £200. He fought Jake Paul.

1:01:40 I'm not even asking the fighter two at 200 lbs, I'm asking to put the belt against the belt 185. He fought the ex world champ of the UFC in bare knuckle at 185. Let's not let's not say, oh, oh, you're so much bigger. Oh my God. You know, everybody knows that I'm bigger. OK, you know, I'm bigger.

1:02:01 That's normal. That's my life. You know, I'm I'm big. We got it's crazy. You're the bigger dog. And you know, his podcast is the over dog. Yeah, whatever. So then the even with me and Mick Terrell, nobody was like, oh, don't do it. He's bigger. There's weight classes for a reason. Oh my God, he's bigger than you. Nobody did that for me.

1:02:23 Why? Nobody were nobody said no, you shouldn't do it. You know, I I'll keep. So why so so so why do it for Mike? Right. If, if, if you're a man and you know this, if you're a man and you're sitting at the Waffle House with your family and some bigger guy comes in and tries to punk you, that's it. You're going to weigh them first. You're going to say, hey, wait a minute, get on the scale, buddy. Let me weigh you first.

1:02:51 Nah, your your wife and kids might as well hop in the car with him. When? When? You step to me. I'm not going to take the time to weigh you before I knock your ass out. I'm not going to take the time to to to to see how much you weigh. And if you're going to say that, you're the king of violence, like. If you're the king of violence, is that. If you're allegedly the king of violence, is that something? That it's even going to matter.

1:03:18 To you, right. Would that matter? Right? No. Right. So yeah, right. That's what I'm trying to. Say, yeah, so it's weird, you know, it's weird. And, and and honestly, at the time when he was crowned the king of violence. I was. Already the most dominant fighter in DKFC history. There was no path to a belt for him that wouldn't have gone through me.

1:03:43 He couldn't have got a 185 belt. I was already at a 185 temp He couldn't have got you get what I'm saying? So they made him a belt. They did that because of me. The only reason the king of violence belt exists is because I'm too good at my job. Lorenzo, I have a. Surprise for you here. You got a lot of surprises man.

1:04:12 I know he just. Pops him. Pops him in. Surprise on everybody. Yeah, I like that, that. Is the king of the jungle. That that right there is the king. Of the jungle, right? And I always say this, the lion is the king of the jungle, even though it's not the biggest animal, right? That's right. There's a reason why, you know, the lion is the king of the jungle. Strategy, resilience.

1:04:38 That's right. You know that's right. Being brave coverage, a lot of great characters, right? And of course, remember, Fortune Favours are brave. That's right. I appreciate you man. I I won't hold you. Guys up all all day, you know? I can talk all day, you know, but I appreciate you for having me, man. I appreciate you for rocking with me. And like I said, like this is I've got some more surprises for you guys.

1:05:04 I got I got some more, some more grits, some more heart. I I love training, so I'm having fun. I feel good. I don't feel like an old guy. You know, I feel great. So like whoever, whoever's next, whether it be Mike Perry, whether it be any of these guys that want some smoke, I'm going to give them, I'm going to give it, I'm going to give them what they looking for, you know, and it's going to be a lot of fun. I didn't come here.

1:05:29 I'm looking, not looking for nothing easy. Like I said, I get excited by a challenge. So I'm hoping they find somebody to challenge me, to push me to my limits so I can, so I can show you guys what I'm made of. I've not yet had the fight that I thought would come. I'm, I'm actually 14 and 2. You may I fought for a beard knuckle, another bare knuckle organisation before this one.

1:05:53 And they're sanctioned too. So I fought for BBYB before, before I fought for BKFC. And that's two fights. I don't know why. Yeah, yeah, one, but then one, I don't know what's going on, but yeah. So I'm, I'm actually 14 and two, but they just keep messing up. If you go back to the fight, when I fought Mick Terrell, they introduced me as they introduced me as 12:00 and 12:00 and yeah, then they go backwards, then they go forward, then they go back. They keep messing up but it's OK. Basically I just been here doing my thing for a very long time and I have not been challenged the way you think that the way I expected to be challenged.

1:06:39 No one has challenged me the way I thought Bare Knuckle Championships would find someone to actually challenge me. You know? My 2 losses have been weird medical garbage like lightning strike. You know, first round I fucking tweak my elbow, dislocate my elbow in the first round should have been a no contest.

1:07:02 And even the first loss to Gustavo Trujillo, he actually just ripped my lip with his wraps and it cut me so bad that the ref stopped it. But he he shouldn't have. He he doesn't even have that power. The the doctor. If it's a doctor stoppage, then the doctor should have stopped it. He didn't. I was up at 3:00.

1:07:22 You finish the count, you send me to the doctor. You give the doctor chance to assess the cut and let the doctor stop it. The referee just overzealously stop my fight in the first round. So I got that lost on my record. But we all know what happens when I get up, don't we know what happened when I get up?

1:07:42 The only thing can stop me is the ref. The only thing, the only thing can stop me from knocking your ass out is the ref. And that's what he did. And he, he's been a good dude. He's apologised to me after that. And he, you know, he like, if I knew what I knew now, I would have never stopped that fight, you know, And so like I said, I'm looking for a challenge.

1:08:01 I'm I'm looking for somebody who can go toe to toe with me, blow for blow, somebody who can take that shot that put Josh Dyer out more than I brought more than one. You don't think I only got one of those, do you? I can do that 30 times in a row, like 30 times. Like if he, if the first one don't work, I'll throw it again, do it again. And that's that's why I'm looking forward to fighting, maybe someday getting a rematch with Gustavo Trujillo, someday getting a rematch with Mick Terrell, someday fighting the Cuban kid.

1:08:32 I always forget his name and or, or someday, you know, like I said, I want to fight these these bigger guys, these bigger names. I am going to go back to heavyweight eventually and I'm going to make my mark before it's all over. You know, we'll, we'll figure out if anybody was a match for me. I have three names for you. Number one, Number one would.

1:09:01 You fight, Jake Paul, come. On man. Jake, Jake Paul, man come. On man. Stop it, man. Stop. Like Jake Paul is a great guy. You know, he's a great fighter. He's a great boxer. But you need to ask Jake Paul, will he fight me? Why don't you get him on your park and say, hey, bro, I got a name for you.

1:09:21 Would you fight Lorenzo the Juggernaut Hunt, the guy that's been knocking people out since way before you thought about fighting? Yeah, seriously, he has been splashing people all. Over the country, the guy. You pretend you never seen the guy. You pretend you don't know about the guy that's actually from where you're from. Like you're from Amherst.

1:09:46 You, you from right around the corner from me. Like, like you would you fight that guy that's from your backyard has been whooping ass all over? That's what you need to ask him. Like I haven't turned down a fight yet. Like they they don't call me. OK, Jack Paul, where are you? The juggernaut hard.

1:10:07 Now once you man, he's a hunter and the hunter is he's becoming the hunter. Hey, now, that's now that's not that's not to say he don't got his hands full with this with the last fight he just picked. So I'm sorry, Joshua right now. Don't I'm sorry, Joshua. Yeah, yeah, don't don't distract him right now. He he, he bit off some big that boy got some big shoes. But, but, but yeah, my, my hat's off to Jake Paul. I love what he's doing in the organisation and keeping, keeping boxing alive.

1:10:43 And I would love to fight him, or at least to be invited to the card. Like put me on there with somebody else. You know, I'll, I'll rock it out with him. We'll sell out, sell out together. You know, I, I love the. I have another name. I have another name for you, Francis and Garner. Francis and Garner.

1:10:59 Yeah, yeah, Francis. Solid dude. You know, I I heard a story about Francis Nugano that he walked through the Sahara Desert twice. See, we're on the same me and him. We're on the same. Wavelength like, like what, you want to fight somebody who walked through the Sahara desert, got turned around and still came back again like this?

1:11:23 Bro, no wonder he's so hard to beat. Like what are you talking about? That's the same kind of energy right there, you know? That's that. Yeah. I mean, shit, that's the fight I'm looking for. Yeah. Him. Maybe John Jones. You know, some work like that. You started from my mother. I had John Jones. Actually, I had three names for you. John Jones was the last one.

1:11:41 The right, though. You deeply dirty on this one. You deeply dirty on this one. John Jones, Mother. Yeah. He's awesome, man. He's awesome. I I love this fight with him. Spar with him, friends with him, hang out with him, whatever. Like that. That high level martial arts, that energy is like crazy. Like me and Elvin.

1:12:03 Like me and Elvin, we can go for a jog, a light jog in the morning that turned into 20 miles because neither one of us would stop. Wow bro, we were. Just supposed to go to the corner. And we went for 20 miles just because he wouldn't stop and I wouldn't stop. So you got to understand that that kind of shit turns me on. That's the that's the awesome that that building, you know, we get to the top of the mountain.

1:12:27 He like, OK, that's far enough. And I'm like, you never been up there? And he's like, no, well, Oh well, come on, let's go. We got 7 miles to go. Like this is this is this is the type of guy you're fighting, the type of guy that, like I said, is excited or, you know, aroused by a challenge. You know this shit is off, but like I said, I got daddy. Duties bro, I appreciate you for having. Me.

1:12:52 Thank you. It's nice to meet you, Noella. Yeah. I'll keep you on the ground. Hit me up. The juggernaut hunt on the ground. www.www.juggernauthunt on my website. Hit me here. Thank you for having me. Bye. Have a good day.