Episode 16 - The Ultimate Guitarist Gift Guide (ft. Marty Schwartz)

0:00 There's only so long you can hide behind the camera. I mean, look at me, I'm hiding. Why would you want to hide from maybe one of the most festive episodes you'll ever see? It's a grimace miracle. A grimace Miracle. Wait, you ever watched Tim and Eric show? Yeah. Dude, I love it. Yeah, awesome show, great job. Oh yeah, it's been a minute, but the Grimace special actually was one of my favorites.

0:21 If anyone has seen Tim and. Eric, I love Tim and. Eric they are nodding and laughing slightly through their nose. I think this is going to rival that hilarity. And also, So what we need to do before we get into this holiday themed episode? Reveal something on our radar for quite some time. Hiding in plain sight actually. Uh oh.

0:40 The new sponsor of the show, Roswell Pro Audio. Oh yeah. We just want to say thank you to Roswell Pro Audio. They're our first sponsor. We've been betting these mics literally since the podcast. Started they're awesome, the Roswell Pro audio stuff, everything that you've heard has gone through that.

0:57 So if that's a testament to these mics, not only electric but acoustic with Tommy. Any sort of miking that you might need? These are condenser mics that I have on the guitar cabs. I got four of them now. Dude, we got the hookup. I was like, hey Matt, I think we might need one more. Maybe I should put this down?

1:12 Put that down before you break it. I'll just. Go with the old on the floor technique. People are going no oh, T-shirts too. Oh shit, what? You got what? You got you got a koozie. Koozie, there you go. Love a good koozie. Nice. It's a gift giving episode here at No Cover Charge Podcast. What size is that shirt?

1:32 I asked him for Jared's size. We got white in here. We got all different kinds of colors, but most importantly, we got this, which I don't even know what color. You did the honors. Unboxing. Here we go. Roswell. Yellow, Old yellow. Look at that thing. This thing's got some weight. We're going to hook that up to the remaining amp back here and be ready to go for all of our audio needs from Roswell Pro Audio.

2:01 This is the Agent Orange glossy version. Satin nickel grill cover. Walk like an Egyptian blue. Glossy like an Egyptian. Satin Nickel Grill cover. Did you give us a new color it? Could be a secret color, can't find it on the website but. This could be a custom color brother this. One's definitely here comes the sun glossy. Check out the link in the description if you need a gift for the miking musician in your life. Every musician needs good mics, man. We're.

2:26 Going to recommend a lot of good stuff here, not your status quo. Typical stuff that you might get recommended in guitar gift guides that you're going to Google. I think these are going to be really unique and insightful, thoughtful gifts that guitar players might actually find useful from all price ranges. And without further I do.

2:44 I already spent the first marketing budget that they gave us. OK. We need to have a marketing meeting. So we're we're business partners, man. We're in business. I just have to say, I think you would agree with me. I I've made a lot of choices. I've made a lot of bad choices. I've made a lot of choices in my life, some good, some bad. While you were away, I couldn't help but get you a kind of gift. That's also sort of for me that I thought would be a good way to kind of tie together this really cool stage. OK, all right, my ears are perked. What do?

3:18 You What did you get? You've seen the thumbnails of all of our episodes, right? Yes. I kind of like Photoshop in. Uh oh. What does he get? What did he get? Oh, no. Oh no, dude. Yeah, baby. Now we are a fish baby. Dude, come on, look at that. Yeah. OK, but does it light up? Oh, I think I there's something in my pocket. Oh, Oh yeah.

3:47 Dude, look at that. Now we're official. Oh, that's a little bright. Oh shit, too bright. Oh, it's got a dimmer baby. Oh yeah. That's the best Christmas present I ever got. This is my favorite new thing in the place and I just want to say Congrats to us. Dude, we deserve it. I was mad that you blew our budget right away, but now that I've seen this and you totally redeemed yourself.

4:10 Yeah, I totally. I redeemed myself. I thought it would be a good way to use the first of our funds. I promise I won't do that again without consulting you. But you were unreachable, man. You were in the UK, so that was. Overseas. How could you reach me? Yeah, this is an executive partnership No Cover Charge podcast. I approve.

4:26 You got to spend money to make money, baby. The whole point of this podcast is that it's always going to be free. And everything we do, if we're promoting things, that's an important point. If we're promoting things like we're doing in this episode, first of all, it's going to be few and far between.

4:40 Yeah, we're not going to be a gear promo up, but we did learn that we have an affinity for getting the best out of gear. So we can't help but demonstrate some of our favorite stuff. But it's only appropriate in the holiday themed episode to give you the best of what we have to offer from our own perspectives, our own gear preferences that might apply to the guitar player in your life. So yeah, the holiday episode, I'm really pumped for this man. Man.

5:09 Hey, Marty. Ho. Ho ho. Ho, that's why he's the best in the business. Marty Schwartz, welcome to the No Cover Charge Podcast. Thanks guys. Love you guys both. You're a legend, brother. Such a pleasure getting to know both of you over the years and can't say enough nice things about you. Thanks for having me. Thanks man.

5:30 This is a holiday themed episode because right now as we're recording this, it is the middle of December 2026. So no matter when you consume this episode, it'll surely be a blast. But we're going into the realm of gifts. Have you ever gotten a good guitar gift? Like ever. I've gotten some bad guitar gifts, OK?

5:50 This might be better. This is better. Well, like. Nobody's gotten a good one, by the way. Two years ago, this guy that works with me on the road, he was like, hey man, I got you some pedals. You know, because he would always like get on me about not using pedals and stuff. Typical. He got one on Amazon and he got me like Amazon Basics. Yeah.

6:05 Delay fuzz. Not that it was a bad gift, but you know what he like spent his money on it. Like that person was being thoughtful. He was being thoughtful and I would looked at him and I was like, I'm never going to use. It dude, you didn't want the Bezos tone. I think I'm more in the category of like no one getting me that particular type of gift because it's like I know more. No one knew.

6:27 Like no one would know the thing I truly wanted. And I did get my very first guitar though 13 years old Christmas and it was a Yamaha blue Yamaha like shred electric with the with. The the Wang the. Whole thing. But that was my I took three lessons. So I was 13, got the guitar for Christmas, took three lessons at the music shop and it was like the Mel Bay book burned out. Guitar teacher had no interest.

6:56 What are you doing, kid? No, not, not at all. It was like. We got some porn melody. Yeah, no, it literally started with like. Let's go. Hot take. And this is going right along with you. Yeah, my brother wanted to play the guitar and he had a teacher just like that. And guess what? After the first lesson he went, I don't want to play guitar again. How important.

7:23 Oh, that's terrible. That is my story. I didn't. I said that too. I said guitar is not for me. It's too. I don't like it. I thought I would like it, but I don't want to do it. So I took three lessons, quit, got out the guitar, collected dust, couple strings broken because all I could do was go, you know, I liked to do that a lot back then at 13. 13 exactly. That teachers aren't bad teaching made me think in my mind that I couldn't play guitar. And so then I never I'd never picked it up again for about 5 years.

8:02 Dude, that's a serious thing with guitars. Once you get in that mindset where you go either someone or maybe it's like you think that you can't do something or whatever you your intuition is is wrong, that's when it gets really messed. Up that's almost malpractice. You couldn't be, you know, tearing down the next Hendricks or Van Halen. It's.

8:21 True. Dude. How many kids go to that lesson thinking, I want to learn how to play like smells like Teen Spirit? And they go in there and the the teacher scoffs at them and they go, now you're going to start by learning the names of the strings and the notes. And you go, yeah, I don't care about that. Right now and reading the like treble Clef on the first lesson. Well, so that's why you started your teaching endeavors to become the teacher that never was in your life, and to see that glint in your student's eye. You're quoting me right now, literally. Or my mindset when that all started, because when I did finally pick up guitar senior year of high school, I had got a cheap harmonica, could play a

9:02 couple of Blues licks, and a few of my friends had gotten pretty good at guitar. One of those is actually Brett Papa, because we grew up together and he could play like Van Halen and stuff. And I was like, Oh my God, he's got magic powers. But so I could play a little bit of harmonica and I just, I was so drawn to people that could play guitar, but never thought I would ever play.

9:21 And then I had a few Blues licks and instead of just hanging with my friends while they played, I started like, you know, playing on harmonica and got me a little more in participating. And then through that my friends in that friendly way, I was like, just show me one chord. I'm not going to be a guitar player, but show me one chord. Oh, well, D is cool.

9:42 And I was like, oh, that's not too hard. Well, thanks. And then, by accident, I went. Like, wait a minute. And then I was like, OK, well that's cool, I'm not going to be a guitar player, but that wasn't too hard. So just show me a second chord so at least I have two things together. And it was like. Now I'm Bruce Springsteen, baby.

10:02 Yeah, let's go. I was like, let's just go to a third chord, you know, but I'm never going to play guitar. And then 4th chord, 5th chord. Then I borrowed a guitar from someone and was at home, like just strumming those chords like, well, that's cool. Hey, man, I'm not going to like do lead guitar, but just show me that, you know the what?

10:19 What's that thing that I see you doing? Oh, that's the Pentatonix, you know, it goes like that. And it just never stopped. And so that was, you know, 30 years ago, I didn't even think I could play guitar because the teacher was bad. So if I want to share with people that it's not that if you learn like something that you're really excited by on day one, whether it's, you know, whatever it is, did I do? Did I not?

10:46 Did I do that sort amount of no no no like so it doesn't get claimed? I don't care where you are, who you're jamming with, if you pull the grit face and you start going. Carlos Cobain. Carlos Cobain I already envisioned the short right now, no. So I as a teacher, I knew right away I'm like, I'm going to do the thing I wish that guy would have done on me on day one. And I would have started playing back then. And that's the essence of teaching, I think is showing how whatever you're teaching applies and puts a smile or like a frown or like some sort of emotion.

11:30 Other than like that, I feel like any guitar player, certainly the ones watching this podcast will recognize you and love you for all that you've given us. And I thought it was only appropriate to invite you on to this episode of Giving and Gifts because. Because we have quite a few things to talk about.

11:50 Yeah, please. I just want to get my little Santa hat out. Oh, here we go. What is that? Because I have a sack. Oh boy. I got what is going on? Look, I got this, Tyler. Sack. I got a sack. Sack of goodies. If you're listening to the podcast. You're like young for your sack. You look like that. You know, Santa's sack of goodies and oh, I saw.

12:15 Your your glorpy Glowington short. Yeah, that was funny. Yeah, I haven't laughed that hard, I don't think in quite a while. So some of these gifts are going to be easy to find and some of them maybe not OK, but sticking on brand with the podcast, I thought it was only appropriate to crack this. Have you cracked it yet? Smell the tone wood.

12:36 Oh, it's job on a Moss I. Think he actually does sell these, right? Yes, yeah, that's, that's a official licensed merchandise. Make sure it works. Oh my God, careful. Don't crack that headstock, dude. Oh, no, don't go lower. Stop there. Please stop. Stop. Cut, Cut. Let. Me try this thing I do.

13:00 Just make sure you know quality check. How's the scratch factor? Scratch factor is good, it's got like a pasta end to it almost. Yeah, I found some. Spaghetti with that thing. I mean, it's genius. Not quite sharp enough for me. I'd probably file it. You'd be like Rambo in like the backroom, like filing it down.

13:17 To the nail salon and get some like those acrylics long ones. This is a genius though. Look at this pickup configuration. Can we just talk about this big Yeah. Wait, that's. Weird, I didn't know Joe Von was so good at merchandising. He's got a soap bar. Is that like a soap bar? P9 he's. Got a soap bar up in the neck dude. I don't know if that's based on one. You could tell us which year and model it's based if. We crack that neck, can we see the year on it? Let me see that neck pocket bro.

13:43 Yeah, hold on. Yeah, so back scratcher any sort of amazing, you know novelty gift like this I think is you have your. Affiliate link for it. For any I'm going to have to text Joe and see if see if he's got something for us. Be careful. I think. Fragile. You know what I'm going to say. Fragile.

14:00 Must be French, no? Jokes. All jokes aside, I'm super impressed by that. That was like genius. I think he's got multiple models too it. Also says Blues rock back scratcher. That's what it says on the side. So do you have to go like? Yeah, dude. I'm sensing a official sanctioned commercial right now all. Right, let's get one.

14:26 Of the tariffs have affected. Reach into my sack again and find something else for us. It'd. Be hard to beat that one, but yeah, we can't wait. It was a solid. It was a good start. Oh, we got something for the nerds. Oh. Yes dude, that brings back memories for me. Me too. You. You do use that.

14:42 You have a whole. Line of books. This is a, first of all, just incredible branding, yeah. 'Cause you feel like you're like studying medicine or something. Yeah, I do feel like a doctor. Golden Memory was being at Guitar Center and stumbling upon that series. Remember Guitar Center would have the books like I remember being there and I was like, what are these?

15:00 They don't say like, you know, Blues rock licks or like shred licks. It was this like elusive book with all of these patterns and shapes. My experience is the early 2000s New York trip to New York City. Yeah, 42nd Street used to be all these music stores and stuff, right? Yeah. And I went into one of those old school new.

15:24 York Yeah, it. Was not like the famous Rudy's one of them. Yeah, not that like just some, I don't remember which one, but like a big old school New York City, 42nd Street. I'm from California, so I'm like already like in this magic trip to New York and I I bought the collection in a store. That's so cool.

15:45 Pre Internet just went in and was like well this might make me good. I feel like we should pick an exercise out here to try, OK? That book has some wild exercises. I mean, Oh well. Is it really for guitar players if it's written on trouble? You don't. Don't just look at the bottom one. We're at six.

16:05 We'll. Do the exercises later. Remember forever. I would do like the the. There you go. Oh well, look at this one. It's this one. So easy. It's in 18-8. Oh, simple. Jared, you do you have one of your songs is in 18-8? 1/2 I got to go all the way to 18 and then back to 8. How does that work? No man, I just feel it bro 12.

16:32 34567891011 till 1314 for these 191812345678910. 11:00 You got to swing it, dude. Wait, no one's not quite it. Really recommend this gift for advanced guitars or guitar players who want to advance and are serious about putting in some time because this is no joke. Let's see. You see something? You need me to hold it? No, that's right.

16:52 Let's see. That's weird. Oh wait, no, here it is. Augmented smoke on the water. Yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, I see. Oh, that's what it is, yes. We should we, we should roll into like the nearest Starbucks and be like, did you guys want the Christmas jazz music started again? We should put a special effect in where our heads are getting.

17:30 Bigger any book in general, I think is the gift idea here. Any sort of book that'll make a guitar player question things and be like, well, I can't do that well if. You when you guys turn 40 and you're still a guitar player, you may question lots of things you're. Like you're like, don't worry, it's the gift that keeps on giving. Don't worry, questions are coming. You never know what you're going to get when you reach into Santa's sack.

17:52 Oh. Something broke. Look at this. This will be interesting. What is that? The most valuable guitar pick you can buy, I think. Dude, get that thing away from me, bro. Sterling. Kryptonite. There you go, let. Me see that sucker dude? It's so petite. Where'd you get this? Use a regular pic and then use the Rudolph. That'd be funny.

18:20 That's an extra large pic in Jared's hands. Hello there young Squire. So you want me to you guys? This is the first pic stuff I think. Like Billy Gibbons, it does. I like how I'm doing the pick demonstration. I'm already try. It. Yeah, we'll go around the room. Feels weird for me. It's too small for me.

19:05 Chubby little sausages. Yeah, you got the little sausages. I use a sharper pick. Yeah. And not a full size. It's it's yeah. I can't do the Jazz three. Yeah, but it's a little smaller than a normal like Tortex and a little pointy. It's heavy too. It's heavy. What's if it makes any difference? What's the benefit of that pick, Tyler? I'm going to see if it changes anything with a clean. I think it's the strumming.

19:51 Definitely sounds different. I'm curious though. That's like, remember when you said like the gift people get you at Christmas? This is this is the one that kind of gets dust gathered. Oh, it fits in its own little. Look, it's got a whole display, yeah. It's got a carrying case. Many guitars use pics, also known as plectrums, to change the way their music sounds.

20:08 Wait, really? The thickness, shape, and material of the plectrum all contribute to the overall tone and strings produce. Now, for the first time ever, guitars can give their sound. Look at this. Is Jared's review ready? Whoa, gone forever. You don't want to lose too many of those. Let's see what else is in Santa's sack.

20:26 And I can't come up with a funnier way. Not funny way to say pretty good. It works bro. Wait, there's. Something down there deep. Deep in my oh look. It's just a little stocking stuffer. It's a Cape. Is that a Capell? It's a Capell. Branded. Is that a branded capo? This is a branded capo. I'm not trying to plug these. I don't even know where did you failia capos? Are they still around?

20:50 Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like a very online based. Yeah, I remember they got with everybody back in the day. I remember that dude that was running. It was really cool, and he was doing some stuff with Gibson at a NAMM show. They were doing guitar cases or I'm sorry, phone cases. So I can't go to Music is Wayne and buy that? I bet you if you emailed Thalia Capos and said let me get the abalone green music is when like hold. On Let Me Go in the back.

21:19 Dude, play me something pretty. Yeah, dude, the no looker. That was great, Yeah. So why wouldn't you want a capo to create beautiful chimey riffs on your acoustic or electric guitar? Remember, people would always say, oh dude, you use a capo, that's cheating. I don't think so. What do you think, Marty?

22:19 First Capo. Song that comes to mind by the way, you. Set me up. Who did I just say? You. Just set me up. That's exactly how it needs to sound for that meme. Did you invent that meme? Were you the first one to put that on A? Who was it? I'd love to say Yeah, I. Wish I could thank that person. I'd love to say yeah.

22:41 Anyway, here's Wonderwall. Who? Was the first one who went into Photoshop or whatever program they used and made a meme for guitar players like that. I want to shake their hands. Yeah, that's a good question. So the next gift, yes, recommendation, There's actually 3 and we each have one on our respective pedal boards.

23:00 Jared, I want you to go first because we've already proven that any guitar player who plugs into this is going to have a good time. This is what's happening right now. This pedal has taken the market by storm and. I learned from the comments of all those clips. It went viral on every single platform but lightning in a bottle.

23:20 So this came from a song the the most popular comment by far was. Pony by Genuine Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you. Remember that song? No. The way that this pedal works, I know there's a ton of different stuff, but like literally my tone was like this. I was like, let's see what happens. I just thought. The.

24:50 The That's in the sack. That's in the sack. The C4 synth from source. 4 synth. C4 synth from Source Audio. I had people sending me texts that I haven't talked to in years. Yeah. And they're going. Jared, I just saw a clip of you playing online and you were playing like a synthesizer. You get that pedal for any guitar player. They're going to have fun with it. I don't care who you are.

25:15 You got. One of the nastiest, stinkiest, raunchiest pedals on your board, Marty. OK. That was given to us actually by our very. 1st guest of the. Show you've heard of Greg. Cock the cockness monster, Yeah. And he's a mentor of Jared's. Yes, he is. This is the Gristle King. And is he taller than you? He.

25:34 Is he is. Wow. Or a couple different iterations, but this is my favorite 1 The Gristle King. It's got two sides of gain and I usually use them both on at the same time for maximum gristle as Greg would probably recommend, but you can maybe demo what side you like better and what. You'd want to do.

25:52 Let's see. So this is the right side, the red dot. That's that's some gristly stuff right there. Yeah, let's do both. Let's see what happens. That little delay. Full circle mode. That thing sounds awesome. That's it. This thing's awesome. I like, I like this side more for whatever it could just be the way they're dialed in. I love it.

27:17 Yep. That's how it goes, Yep. Anything else in the sack? This is the pedal I was going to recommend, which is just a nasty fuzz. It's Walrus Audio Jupiter. Oh. That's it. Like I always say when my face goes like this. Sounds like a tube that's ready to explode. No, I like that a lot. It doesn't give you much, but it's really.

27:53 Filled you always felt like fuzz. Sounds better with a single coil. Yeah, fuzzes are funny, man. Oh. The P 90s are good. Yeah, yeah, P 90s are good, but also fuzzes like this feels really choked out. Which can be really. Over half fuzz. Marty, how do I go there? We go. It's really cool. It's got.

28:40 That it doesn't offend like most fuzz tones, it doesn't offend me. I've got a great gift. For people, please and. It's one of the only times where micro is a good thing. Micro SD. That's the only time I can think. When I need it, nothing's uglier than one of those big fat. Oh dude, it's really hard to take people seriously.

29:01 When they have one, you got a little micro back there. See that's. What he had back there. Mark, guys, I told you not to talk about it on camera. This is the Daddario. Oh nice. Micro Tuner. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know you can't on stage, you cannot tell so. It's got a time on there. I actually didn't even notice you had it on. And then realized and then.

29:24 Oh cool. That's trick. And what I like, you guys can probably relate. In the green room, you like to warm up and stuff and you don't have and you want to walk out with your guitar. I don't know if you do that. Though, Yes. And also the thing about that that not a lot of people realize is your guitar, of course, when the temperature changes.

29:41 So you'll be back in a green room or a guitar will come out of the case or whatever it is. And then when it gets in the room when you're playing, it's usually hot under the lights. The guitar is going to be out of tune, so. If you have a guitar player in your life and you want to get them something, I do recommend this because I still, I probably have 20 of these and there's still not enough.

29:59 Yeah, If you got this for someone that already had a tuner, they're still going to use it. Oh. Yeah. I have enough of these I've lost. This isn't specifically sponsored to Diadario, but I've lost my snark tuners more than I can count. I have 3 hanging there, but I've had it 7 or 8 in my life. I even have this this hydro Flask.

30:18 By the way, this is your. Water. Did they send that to you? Thank God, Thank goodness I have my snark water. Even when I'm at home sitting around and I pick up a guitar and I'm sitting there watching TV, it's usually out of tune a little bit, so I'll be sitting there messing with it. It's just a nice Peace of Mind to have a little tuner and then you just go, you know what, I'm just going to tune it really quick.

30:37 Modern convenience. I'm in tune and then I can just play. I just like, you can't tell really. No. I mean, you'd have to really look carefully like Tyler's right here and he didn't notice that I had it on there. And it's just, especially around the house, you're just chilling. Like if every, all, most of my guitars have one on it, you just grab it. It's easy and you can't have enough of them. Like I, I still order more because I lose. They're small, so you lose them like you said. You 2 each have your own signature guitars that are also able to be purchased.

31:08 But buying someone a new guitar, let's say. So things are getting pretty serious. I got a girlfriend, she buys me a new guitar, what do I do? Merrier. I was about to say, hey, you put a Dang lock on that on that hand and you just never let go. If you have a significant other, all that I can say, or someone in your life that just supports you making music and even gets you any sort of gift around guitar, that's a keeper, man.

31:35 Yeah, you can't go wrong. Yeah, that is a sweet. Sweet, but certainly everything outlined in this video is clearly the best thing you can get a guitar player. This is true anything that comes from the Heart shore, but specifically AC4 synth. Maybe that'll be our next sponsor. We already got Roswell Pro audio source audio. Source audio we need to.

31:54 Have audio in our sponsor titles. That's the thing, dude. Yeah. One morning they woke up and they're like, something's going on. You guys, I don't know we need. To find Spike in the modulation section of our website. Some marketing guy gets promoted and he had nothing to do with it. You finally did it and he's sitting there and he's like, well, we don't.

32:11 Know what you did, damn it, but you did it. That will that will conclude our holiday theme themed episode of the No Cover Charge podcast with the one and only Marty Schwartz. Thanks guys. Before we go, what is on your mind that you haven't said in public ever before? I can't express gratitude enough every time I have opportunity to. I've been able to do this thing for 17 years and be able to, I talked about having a three-year old and a little baby in diapers and you've got a new baby.

32:45 College is more expensive than diapers. Oh cool. Great it. Is so gratitude is the number one number two, what's new? YouTube's changed a lot obviously, but the the new thing for me, and it's still gratitude is I've done it long enough now where kids, there were little kids watching 17 years ago.

33:05 Some of them are now like fully professional and famous bands or famous artists where I was kind of like Mr. Rogers Neighborhood or something like, you know, like for them when they were little. Instead of the sweater is the fedora. Man, yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, the Fedora's done. Very. I've joked that like the Fedora's been in and out of style like 5 Times Now. And it's iconic, dude.

33:25 I'm. Just stuck with it. But that's how that comedian shouted me out in the audience last night. It's because she saw the fedora in the audience. She's like, I saw that hat. But now I'm getting to meet those, that generation and to see, to get reminded that I, you and I were like alone a lot shooting this stuff. You forget.

33:44 You don't realize you. Forget the people are actually watching. You forget the scope of how many people you guys are literally broadcasted. Yeah, so. Every moment. So meeting like people in their 20s now who I never could have met because they were little kids with now they're out and becoming adults. Getting to me, those that generation that don't even remember before I existed is the most rewarding thing of my current like career is meeting people now who are old enough and gigging and are really good.

34:11 Too. It's amazing, man. And that's in the most rewarding part so far is people that are like fully amazing. You know what's crazy too is think about all of those people and then think about even the people that you've just helped by showing them those three chords. Get through a moment in their life where maybe it was a love or a breakup or a loss of, of something. Yep.

34:33 And literally just having that help them through a difficult time. And it's like those moments, I think you can't even count how many there are, but. Yeah, I think I'm teaching like beginners. But then like Marcus King, who we know, he just came out to me. He's like, dude, thank you so much. I'm like, what for what? And he was like, well, I had to play Wanna Dead or Alive for Jon Bon Jovi.

34:56 And I needed to learn it. Yeah, he like he won Jon Bon Jovi. Marty Video. Yeah, Jon Bon Jovi was learning some, or I'm getting some, like lifetime achievement songwriter award, and they asked him what he was like. I want Marcus King to play Wanted Dead or Alive. And so Marcus King's like, I don't really do a lot of covers and stuff.

35:12 So he was like, Marty, you saved my ass. And I had to play it in front of Bon Jovi. And so it's like, oh, that's amazing. Dude, literally last week I was with someone in the UK and they were going to jam with me. I can't remember where I was. Oh, I was a thing for Gibson, and literally they didn't know how to play Mississippi Queen and all of a sudden I see him get out their phone. And they're looking.

35:34 I swear they looked up a Marty. They were looking at Marty videos. It's just hilarious. It, I mean, so that's actually really saved me in the changing tides of YouTube and stuff is that like videos I made seven years ago, eight years ago, nine years ago, those just consistently get searched like that.

35:49 And so I'm kind of like the stuff that's doing the best for me is like my like catalog more than like, but I have to make new stuff. You're such a sweet soul in a world where there's a lot of people that are trying to figure out how to do this. And to have Someone Like You that literally says here, let me show you, it means a lot to a lot of people, so. Appreciate that man.

36:08 And for me, and I thank you for that, I. I am very touched. Tidings in good no. I mean that, that that's like someone would like say something like that to me and they're like, oh, you know, you probably heard this before. And I'm like, that never gets old. Like it actually motivates me to keep going. It's like the number one thing.

36:27 Like when someone has expressed that back to me, I'm just like, yes, oh, that's right. I can't forget. Well, from all of us here at the No Cover Charge Podcast, we wish you a happy holiday. We should actually jam something. Let's do one more Little jam, Little jam, little mini jam. The. The. The.

39:22 Yes. Oh yeah, dudes. Sweet. Thanks guys.