Episode 26 - NAMM 2026

0:00 Dude, do you ever feel like from the NAMM show you have flashbacks and you're like. It feels so far away and yet so close. The NAMM Show. In case you don't know what that is, the National Association of Music Merchants hosts the show every year in California. NAMM. You feel like my voice is nice and crispy. It's because I was criticized by a viewer in a hotel at NAMM. It's out of focus and my audio sucks. Well, guess what?

0:26 It's the No Cover Charge podcast. We're not charging. It's all turned out the way it's. Hold on, you guys got to realize this is like a one man and a half man. Show. I just show up and I just shred and, and we have fun. But everyone that's saying things about the quality and the things and it's like, oh, do you want to talk to our HR or our complaint department?

0:45 It's just Tyler, Tyler's doing it all. So like the fact that, and I'm not trying to speak it up here, but every single clip that you've seen this dude, not besides being in the clips has edited, cut, comped all of them. And for that, my friend. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks very much. We always strive to improve, however, and I'm trying something new with a microphone. I think I might get another one of these and have it. People can't see it, but it's here. Have one over our head.

1:12 Part of the way we're able to have such crispy audio is because we picked up another sponsor of the show, Neural DSP, and we like to thank them. You guys know Neural DSP from, you know, every guitar tone that's on Instagram or used on stage. There's a lot of people using their gear and what what can you say about?

1:31 That well, besides the fact that I knew about all of this stuff before we started, you know, talking about Neural, the John Mayer plug in episode yes. And that told me everything I need to know about Neural being the king. They've been really supportive since that episode in particular, but even before that, I've worked with them for years and it's just a natural. I was like, hey, what if we don't do a podcast that's about neural?

1:54 They're like, no, no, we just love your stuff. We'd love to be affiliated with you. How? Cool is that man, everyone who knows me knows I'm super old school about stuff, but you cannot beat the tones you can get right off the bat with these, with the neural stuff. It's it's simply incredible. And if anyone out there is thinking about it going man, I just wish I could have this sound or this sound at any volume. Thank you so much to DSP.

2:16 Check out the link in the description. Use the promo code No cover charge to receive 30% off all plug insurance excluding the archetype John Mayer X. Anyway, this is all Nam footage and it is disjointed in the most beautiful way, and I think the best way to present it to you is to sort of set up each segment. 6:00 AM flight out of Nashville.

2:36 We flew into LA. We went straight to Tim Pierce's house. Episodes out. Then we went straight to Dweezel Zappa's house. Episode's out. Then we went to In-n-out Burger. Oh yeah, we had to eat. That's a part of this episode. You'll see it later. Then we went to this jam. This day was, it was probably like a 18 hour day for us.

2:54 And I remember we got invited to this jam session, super awesome jam session, but you got thrown in the fire by me, which I love to do. And I was literally like, dude, there's a rig over there. And it was like, what are we playing? I don't know, let's just go. We did War Pigs. We hit the Wayne's World harmony. Through that monumental day of jamming, we had to take a ride to a cool music store.

3:30 Honestly, maybe the perfect set. Like morning. Great morning, starting at Malibu Music, grabbing some coffee. Some. Actually, no, we grabbed some Diet Cokes because we were heading to Joe Bonamassa's later. On I left my sunglasses at Dwiesels. So we had no shaves, but it was a great time at Malibu Music.

3:47 I picked up a 64 Strat. He said he'd take 24. 24 kisses. 24 kisses. That's a good. Sales pitch, they're not making any more, no. They're making more in. England, Yeah, yeah. They make a new. Vintage. Don't get me wrong, they're making more. OK, they're not the ones that you're. Not the ones you. Want.

4:20 They're not making any more of these, though. Spotlight on Eugene Rice right here. This is a good, good dude who knows everything that you want to know. About vintage. And he plays and sings his ass off and he's moving to Nashville, TN and we're going to be hanging out with him and he is a young guy that knows all about the real stuff.

4:39 He. Would learn from the real people. So shout out to Eugene. Shout out. Way out. Like we're shouting way out. Pretty sure. There's so many cool amps in here. You'll like see it in like a YouTube video or something, but you won't actually get to hear it in person. I was like an. Exposed speaker.

4:54 Oh yes. Something about him, it's. Like Jerry Garcia set up. It's a man's on his knees for the tone. That's unreleased JJN right there. Maybe you should take that one with you. Honestly this. Guitar with these white. Plastics. I've never seen it. I have. To take a picture of it. So here, here's the next factor of throwing in the fire. Yep, I got to go do a cool jam with Victor Wooten. OK, that was super fun.

5:30 Yes, I got some footage of that. And then I got to do another jam. I was supposed to do it solo, but I said there's no way I'm going to do it solo. Especially, you know, Nam, dude, it's crazy. You could kind of get away with things if you have cameras. That's what I know about Nam. Little pro tip for anybody who just. Carry a camera.

6:01 Carry a big camera around. Be like, hey, yeah. We walked over to the orange booth. Yep. And they were quite nice to us. Well, I don't know if you got footage of that, but literally I think I walked over. Dude, you walked. Right up in his face. And I looked at him and I was like, hey, can I use that amp? I don't even know.

6:19 If I asked if I could, I said I need that amp, Yeah. We kind of hopefully we weren't too demanding, but they were very receptive towards us and we we love Orange amps. Yeah, Orange really hooked it up. I mean, here's the simple fact. Like we walked into the booth, I made eye contact. It was almost like the Terminator scene. He's like, I need your boots, your bike and whatever. Thank you, Orange.

6:40 That was awesome. We had an epic jam that was very rarely, very rarely. Look at this. What can you say about a man like that? Got a real fat thick swamp out of that amp. Dude the orange stuff really is cool because I remember the first time I played through an orange I was like what do all these knobs do as you start turning them because they have like the I'm like this is sounds so bad.

7:53 The emojis. Yeah, they do have little little emojis. It's like not animations but graphics that are different than the normal bass, middle, treble. Orange is cool, man. They they just kind of do their their own thing and they have their own sound and honestly, they kind of sound like monsters. You weren't. Around when Mike came up to me with his signature guitar. Have you seen his signature guitar? I have not.

8:16 Is that real? Yeah, that's his his guitar that he always plays. I did not know that. Now I'm 2026, my name is Mike Dawes, and this is a guitar you won't find here and you won't find many places in America because it's got a fun name. This is my signature Andreas. Kunz. With AC acoustic guitar, and this is a fun story about this one is this doesn't actually belong to me. This is my signature Indian Rose model, but it's owned by a man you may know named Misha Mansour from BAM Periphery, who probably sold all of his acoustic guitars and replaced it with this one. This is Misha's personal guitar.

8:51 Look how beautiful this thing is. Indian rosewood, sick spruce, 38 year old sick spruce. The nicest playing acoustic guitar you or any other electric or acoustic guitar player will have. The problem is, Misha doesn't know that. I went to his house, got this guitar and brought it to that because he's out of town. So Misha, if you're seeing this, I apologize. Please nobody tag Misha in the comments. So he sees this Andreas Koontz guitars in Germany. You won't find them at Nam because of his name, which is unfortunate, but they are the greatest acoustic guitars of all time, I assure you.

9:21 Thank you very much, Misha, for picking it up and thank you for for using it so beautifully in your in your home and in my hands right now. I think we're allowed to put this on YouTube and Spotify and all this, but it's just a word. It's actually a man's last name. Well, Andreas. Koontz, Koontz. How to spell that, Jared?

9:37 I would say KOONTZ. Not quite. It starts with AC. Yeah, let me guess, CUNT. Z Yeah, yeah, it's a name. Proper noun, if you will. No, I'm curious, did he make these this brand his name because of the? It has to be way back into his ancestral days of the the Koontzes. The the the Koontzes. True story, I was the first time I brought my migrants to America.

10:07 I had it in this case and the guy at TSA told me it's not a good idea for you to have this written on the case and ever since then I went to monogig bags. So this is the original Hiscox case that Misha has. He clearly hasn't had the same problems I have. I didn't know that Mike played the Koontz.

10:23 He does. OK, very well. Well, clearly it sounds incredible. So name name aside, obviously a great instrument. It's kind of like our friend who we love, Greg Cock, right? Greg Cock. Rhymes with chalk. I got to meet escape the Internet. You you recognize some of these guys here? I do. And actually, OK, I have funny stories about this because I met three of these dudes obviously, and I know two of them very well.

10:46 Ola hung out with Ola in Sweden. Great guy. He came to my show. He gave me a shirt that had a Jack Daniels logo, but it said jerk off on it, so I wore that show. That was great. Obviously, Mike. We love Mike. Mikey the best. Can't wait to him on the pod and do more with him and then the dude is it.

11:03 Charles Bertude and birth. I don't actually know birth. Berth, berth. Berth's name. I don't know his actual name. Never met him, but that dude Charles, I was in Germany at Qatar summit and he was warming up backstage and Mateo Mancuso and I both had like 4 beers in our hands and we were the only ones.

11:23 And he looked at me and he just was like Oh no, I'm not going by that guy. And I looked at him, I was like, you need a beer, dude Charles, deal with it. But he was up there, he was doing his thing. He seemed like a really cool guy. Great. Guy but dude, this is like a heavy cast. Right here. So they started a band, they've already performed together, and they're going to perform again when Mike's arm heals, I take it. So all four of them are in a band. Yeah, let's find out what's going on. Escape the Internet.

11:48 For all your granddads and grandmas in the audience, come and enjoy the acoustical guitar and hear it combined with the likes of. I burns. I'm going to play the electric guitar very loudly. Lots of scales and Barbados and all of that. Stuff, Charles, I'm the bassist. I'm going to be over playing on every song, playing way too many solos and notes.

12:08 And also the eye candy. I'm just here. To Chuck baby. That's it. No, I'm sad, right? So when can we expect to see? You guys, we're going to be all across Europe, mainland Europe, and these guys will be in the UK as well in the month of February 2027. There's going. To be pyro. And stuff. I hope so. You'll be a pyro.

12:27 If enough people actually get tickets and come to the shows, we can afford some pyro. I still check it. So we can get Pyro? Yeah, hell. Yeah, please. Help them Help people escape the Internet. Speaking of sponsors, we we don't. I'm sorry, I just need. To sponsored by Liquid Death but. See that? Oh, that's good.

12:46 Isn't that good? Whatever do you have today? I'm doing severed Lyme. Where are you? I got Cheerio obituary. Can't wait to make Severed Lime and Cheerio obituary jam tracks. This is the business card Cam in the first business card we have to open is the original chip grip. You know what this is for?

13:04 Well, I do. Wait, do you have one of those guitars? No. It goes inside the monkey grip of a Steve Vai gem. It's hilarious. Yeah. I also love it because it reminds me of being a kid, like at the remember, like at the pool, like the things you'd put and they were like waterproof. Keep your keys safe in the pool with this. Also, dude, dude, And also it's like one of those stress ones where you're like that's got the chip grip, the chip grip. Chip Grip's great chips, in case you don't know them. Great meme makers.

13:30 We're going to go through business cards that we received at Nam. Now Toonies. OK. I think these are. Let me guess, you put it on your tuning peg. You show up to a jam with toonies on dude. Hold on. I I don't know if I can trust you dude, unless you play an extreme metal band and when you tune your low B down to a low A. How do you put the?

13:57 Wait, is that what you do? Let. Me. See, you do it for me. Oh wait, I thought it went on their tuner. No, no, I think it wraps around the string right now. So that's even worse. Yeah, I think it might be actually worse. So literally it's like an ornament, yeah. It's a little guitar ornament. Look bro, wrap me up. Look at oh, dude, what did you how was your performance last night?

14:22 Oh, it was great, dude. My tunie never fucking it never like went on. Look, there you go. Man, that is so cool. Thanks bro. What Tunis are you getting? I'm getting the spring collection. It's apples and bananas. You got mushrooms. I got a shroomy on here, what's wrong with that? Also though, what do you I must be doing this wrong? Yeah, we're probably not doing not doing them justice. They can't all be winners at the NAMM show. They can't all win best in show like Neural DSP. OK, here's here's the other side of this coin. Those are really cool.

14:52 If you're getting into guitar, let's say you have a kid or someone that wants to the play. Just come off your thing. No dude, that's from the chip grip. It's called the chip grip. That's your chip grip chain. Don't lose that bro. Believe that Jim the business card can't Jim Jim from Reverb. I only met him for about 12 seconds. Jim's the.

15:12 Man, Jim is, he's OG at Reverb. And yeah, Jim, we're coming for you, bro. We gotta do some fun stuff. Jim, my brother's name is Jim. I love Jim's. Yeah, my dad's name's Jim. We're Jim guys. Joshua, Patent and Trademark attorney. Oh, we might need this for the NCCP. Well, when we start designing things, you know, like kind of like the what was that one called?

15:38 The Toonies. Yeah, when I start doing the boonies for Bass, so I might have to call him. The patent attorney. You never know. All right, let's keep going. Rock Lock. What are those? I got plenty of rock strap. Locks, yes. Grab that package. This. Yeah, they sent it to us. Are you serious? Host Nam Bro.

15:57 This thing's got some heft to it. What do we got? In here. Kick her open, get your get your opener, dude. Oh don't cut yourself. Don't try this at home shirts. We got a shirt. Rock Lock. Large. Dude, let's go. Dude, it's a Hanes. Here we go. The rock must be unlisted. Look at that rock lock, baby.

16:23 What's up? We got some rock lock. Put this on your guitar strap. OK. And it fits any strap button. No way. It goes on that your strap in like 5 seconds. For real. It's got rubber on it so it doesn't damage your guitar, which is a new innovation on these new ones. Oh, this one might be your size XL. Oh, nice dude.

16:44 There we go. Hold on. Let me show that off. Rock lock Justice. What's up? All right, I'm, I'm intrigued by those. I want to see how they work. This here's Ivan Singh. He's a gentleman who came up to me, seemed pretty nice. Oh, Ivan's great, dude. He he was at the jam. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he rips. I only met him.

16:59 He was one of your friends? Yeah, dude, they were all destroying. Yeah, they were destroyers. He's part of the destroyer crew, which is not a real crew. I just made it up right now. Check out Ivan. He's got Ivan Singh under score, OK. He lives in Chicago, he's a killer Blues rock guitar player and honestly just a really good human.

17:19 That's who we love. Check out Ivan, show him some love. Latin Blues. It's awesome. It's killer. Oh look, it's. Josh Neuro Nowhere. Josh, I almost choked to death. While he was. I saw it on your video. Dude, I mean sorry, I don't even know what I was he. Took a break. All right, man, take a. Break.

17:38 Take a break. What? Happened. I. Swallowed the cough suite. Oh no. Are you OK? Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad he's alive. The wise Hatter. This guy was really cool. He's. Oh. He makes his own hats. Yeah, yeah, we met him at the Jam too. Yes, dude. He's made in Venice, CA. Very cool hats. I'm actually going to talk to him about.

17:58 We should get some hats, dude. I would. I told him I couldn't pull it off and he's like, yes, you can. I was like, you must sell hats. I said that to him too. I said, dude, I don't know, I'm not really a hat guy. And he goes, Trust me dude, I make the hats that make you want to wear a hat. Like that's.

18:11 Is that like the best sales pitch ever? He sells hats, yeah, and I do want one. The wise Hatter. Brandon Wise. Brandon, we'll hit you up, dude. This is true Temperament Company. OK, tell me more I. Think that's the name. True temperament. Fidel Formula One. This dude is like a scientist. For real. You know what?

18:29 True temperament, France. Is that the ones that are all like wiggly? So what does that do again? It's supposed to keep every single note in tune, so if you play like that, weird. That Jack can make it out of tune. That would be the goal. So hopefully my friend Anders get my friend Anders gets back to me. We need to get a true temperament guitar on the POD because I think that a lot of people would probably, like myself, be really interested to see what it's all about. This would headline Weird Gear episode 2. Yeah, we need to get one.

19:01 We need to get a true temperament on. Anders, hit us up. This is a very, very beautiful business card. Very ornate Kaiser dude. Kaiser Capos. Kaiser Kaiser's old. I've known about Kaiser for I think I own a few Kaiser capos. I don't know how long they've been around, but they've been sending me capos since I started.

19:19 Uploading videos, That's awesome. What capo companies do you know? Kaiser. Kaiser. That's it. Goodbye. All these going in the garbage after this. I've digitized them. Source Audio Baby. Oh boy, I'm still waiting by the mailbox for the for, you know, a little little song. I'm. Ready for a a new pedal shipment full of cash? I hope their next pedal is called Cha Ching because that's what we're waiting on.

19:46 We're just joking. We we sold probably 7000 C 4 units for audio. I think they mentioned that too. We're we're still kidding. But really, they make great. Stuff. What a what a great group of people too. That was fun. Guys Boston company love. We rolled over there at the Nam show and they knew we were coming.

20:02 They saw trouble coming. Dude, they saw us rolling in like a cloud. And I was like, give me all of your C fours. Yeah, this is a business card. I won't be tossing out Joe Bonamassa. That's hilarious. Seen this friend of JP Shellnut who's a friend of Billy Gibbons who is a friend of Eric Clapton.

20:19 That is hilarious. That's Joe Bonamassa's title. His numbers on it. You might want to. Definitely blur that. The claim to fame that like if you know, you know. With Billy, it's his business card because it's epic. I have one and it literally says Billy Gibbons, a friend of Eric Clapton, like nothing else.

20:36 That's it. Very good. It's amazing. 12 gauge Trixie Young band playing real music with real instruments. People are always whining there's no more rock bands play like here's one. There you go. OK, it's Trixie. Check them out. What do you got there, kid? What you got? I don't know if this is AMP RX.

20:51 What's it say on the back? It says amp RX has you covered brown box. Stop raw dogging your amp. They make the attenuator right step up step. Yeah, they make like the voltage, so you can pick what voltage is coming out of the wall for. Your amp, right? So what's what is this dude? It's a rub, dude, it's a rubber. What can you say about a condom that isn't going to turn this podcast into something you aren't You So. Wait a minute, they have their logo on a condom wrapper? Yeah, that's pretty incredible.

21:28 I won't be unboxing this any further. This is not plugging your amp into bad power. And put something nice over top of it, like a brown box. Yeah, you need to protect your. Amp RX. So this is sort of like a feature presentation of this podcast. It's a little mini podcast within a podcast. Okay, First off, there was an acoustic guitar there, but shout out to Gibson, we stole one of their acoustics. But also, wasn't this the last day? Yes, this was the We Were dragon. So.

21:57 That is going to translate in this dialogue between myself, you, Ariel and Chris Buck. There's a little bit of exhaustion, but sometimes that's when the best stuff comes out. You know, Stanley Kubrick, when he was really pushing Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman and Eyes Wide Shut to do another take, another take, another take, and they use the last take.

22:17 That's kind of what this is. And as a result, we get the most raw, real stuff out of these people that we can possibly find. Don't worry Chris, Buck is fine. Started with. Don't put that. Don't. I'll cut it. Are we rolling? Yeah, we're rolling. Dude, don't. Here's the thing, if if Ariel ever wanted to go into some form of high-powered position, I got a lot of blackmail on. Them God thanks guys.

22:42 It's a a NAMM creator lounge no cover charge podcast mini sod. That's what's going on right now. Chris Buck. Ariel Poston. I met the inventor of logic. The inventor of logic. Literally, I don't want to thank that person. Yeah, he's like, he's exactly what you would expect. Kung tools for idiots. I love it.

23:00 I don't actually understand logic. I'm not. I've been chained for tethered to the Yamaha booth for most of them again. So this is the first chance I have to go and explore and I have roped into a podcast. They keep you on a leash, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. I see the hook right here. Keep hearing this beep on his ankle.

23:15 He's got an ankle monitor. He's. Made a guitar string leash. I feel like we're all we all see this world the same way when it comes to guitar. And as we get into the concept of this video, which is past the guitar, so I'm going to play chord here and the audience is hearing this beautifully. OK, we can't hear much.

23:42 I love that song that's coming from there. Wait a minute. Wait, was that coming out of the guitar? Because because that, that keyboard's no keep doing it. It's great. It's playing. That's Sara Bareilles. It's a killer. All right, so. That said, the beauty of the NAMM show is you never know what's going to happen. This young gentleman over here just started playing a Sara Bareilles song through this guitar, so we're going to actually set this one down.

24:04 Do you want this one? No. We'll, we'll start with you. You play something and it reminds Chris of something. It's sort of like a game of telephone. You play something, there's a chord, maybe that. Chris is like, I haven't enough caffeine for this. Yeah, I think that's a good way to go about it. So what?

24:18 What's something that comes up on the acoustic guitar for you right now? Could it be two chords? It can be anything you want. How about this? It could be a riff. It could be. What is that chord, Fancy man? 4 minor, so I guess G minor. 6 over AG tension beetles. I don't know kind. Of incredibly tense. What did that instill in you?

24:50 What were you? It's a very Bond, very James Bond, right? But. Where does it lead you now then? Dude that's like the most epic that that. Sequential chords. That reminds me, is that a Tenacious D wonderboy? You need a bridge. It is Wonderboy. So if I. Was going to play. Some. I would. I'd probably play a little. Room to.

25:24 Do a bad guys it's something I'd. Probably make it weird and do a SUS. That's what I'm doing. All right past the guitar has ended so. Tyler goes. That's enough of that. I say to Tyler Nam. Sometimes it's just like people shooting off shotguns and they're just like Woo. That's a shotgun. That's a shotgun. That's a shotgun, Nam.

25:47 Was a musical shooting rage she got there. Do you guys know the guitar player Blue Saracino? Yeah, yeah, this dude, he was. Talking to me one time and he's like, you know, man. He's like all those. Fucking guitar players. He's like with fuzz. Pedals and OverDrive, it's just different sounds of lawn mowers.

26:03 They're all different tuned lawn mowers. Think about it. You turn it on, it does a. Thing sounds like a lawn mower. You can turn it up more you can turn. It down, he's like. They're all lawn mowers, and I was. Like you know what? No, wrong not. Really wrong. Yeah, some. Of them you need. To. Crank up some of them. Just click right on.

26:18 You're going to play somewhere at 3:00. We're playing a little acoustic show with my bandit Martin at 3 the stage and then we're playing full full normal show at the Wood wire vaults. Tonight, all your new music. I'll play some new tunes, some some faves, if any. I don't. I'm not assuming anyone has faves, but by faves I mean older songs.

26:38 Yeah, yeah, it's. Going to be great, man. What about you Chris? What are you getting into? Today, little is humanly possible. I've been worked to the bone since the moment I arrived. No, it's been great. We played on the outside stage the other day. The band came with me on the outside. That's cool.

26:51 Dude. Bigs in the rain in California. So one day it rains a year. You guys came all the way. We've grown that for miles, but now it's good fun. A load of interviews about my new rap star and I'm doing something on the line sticks, but we'd like to. Congrats on the new guitar. Yeah. Thanks, man. Thank you.

27:32 So yeah, today's my sort of relative day off. So I I try and chill out. I got roped into a podcast. Yeah, man, this is what happens. We come up the escalator, you're standing there like a mag. I feel like we just kind of like put a bag on and we're like, you're coming with us. He's like, fine. Follow us.

27:48 Body bag. Bye bye man, it's pleasure to be here. That's nice. Last day to end it, more like. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I remember when I first started coming here. I don't know about you guys, but remember it'd be Sunday too. So you would like you arrive and like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. By Sunday, it's like the bitter end and you're just like trying. You're shaking, Cold, Weak.

28:09 Yeah. I don't. I don't know what. To play anymore. I feel like when you're like show up to the same booth like for the 7th time already is here here again. The messed up thing is also when you say goodbye to someone you've seen in a minute and then you both start walking the same direction. It's sort of the same thing.

28:26 It happens in public, you know, But in Nam it's tough because you're closeted into people. So it's like, see you later. Oh, oh. But I've actually learned a way to get out of that. And it's just to continue spinning. Oh, you just stop where you're at and just continue to spin. It and as you're spinning, you just keep spinning. Oh, it's hard.

28:43 I've got a great way to get out of conversations that you don't. Want. Oh, wait. What is it? What's your name? I got to get out of jail conversation card. Oh, sorry, don't let me monopolize your time. Oh. Wow, wait. That just that just Jedi mind tricked me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand the power of that.

28:58 What's the trick? Jared? And I also have been on the phone a lot. That's a classic one. That's. Classic. Yeah, the unapproachable. He must be talking to the president or something. Exactly. Dude, some of these people though, yesterday I was taking a number one in the bathroom and a guy walks up and I'm just sitting there and it's like my one minute of relaxation, right? And all of a sudden, the guy, I just heard his phone click, he's taking yeah, 100 percent, 100%.

29:25 How do you handle that? I looked at him, I just said. What the fuck? Dude. And then he was like, thanks man. And he just walked out. And then the other one, I actually was on the phone. I was trying to figure out where I was supposed to go. And then this guy walks up and he's like, I'm just on the phone and I'm like, some of this stuff you just got the. Bathroom is wild.

29:41 That's. We don't, we obviously aren't coming off like we don't appreciate people coming up and saying what they love, but it's just interesting how some people choose to display their. The grand scheme of it, it's a beautiful thing because it's a chance for artists and musicians to come. And if you have a platform, if you have community, it's like it's a culmination.

29:59 You're like, oh, it's like what I do or what you do or what you do. Like it reaches people and like people love. That's what it's all about. Taking a piss though is crazy. I was, I was trying to give somebody last night, this guy walks up and we were on our way back and he had a In-n-out Burger shirt and he was like, hey man, can I get a picture? I was like, dude, anyone in an In-n-out Burger shirt, one of my favorite restaurants on the planet. So I start going into in and out and the guy's looking at me. He's like I just.

30:22 Wanted a picture? So sometimes I like to go. He's never gonna forget this. This is going above the he. Went off about in and out for 10 minutes. Oh, yeah? Well, that's the joy of this place. We signed up for it. Right? Exactly. Yeah. And I'm having a great time just seeing old buddies and meeting new people and.

30:38 I'm having a terrible time. Chris is like we're. We're. Going to take Chris somewhere after this and he's going to have a big smile on his face. Yeah, great. I'm I'm. Well, we'll meet you in a bubble bath, yeah. Honestly, yes. All right, that concludes the NAMM recap episode of the No Cover Charge podcast.

30:55 Please join us next week for Should We Tell Him? Yeah, tell him. You acquired some more Gary Moore equipment, Jared. Well, OK, so First off, the pod is growing and we're about to maybe by the time this is out, we're going to be at 59,000 Subs, right? On YouTube. That's amazing. Why don't we celebrate with another resurrected Gary Moore amp, Gary Moore pedal, and an original 1959 Les Paul?

31:30 For 59,000 subscribers, that seems appropriate. You're in for a treat. This is. Please get us there by next week. This is super sick and honestly, I think out of all the episodes we've done, and I'm not just saying this, that was so much. Fun. Yeah, we we tried to differentiate it from the Gary Moore amp we got to chill with in Joe's place. So this is very different than that. Yeah, this is this is something you're not going to want to miss.