From JusTrend To Kelly 10/12: Kelly Clarkson, Ben Shapiro, ICE, BBC News

0:02 Have you been any uh halloween parties yet no at my first one over the weekend over the weekend yeah already part of my part of my overrated i'm like so it felt so quick so quick.

0:18 Oh that's early ma'am yeah my shit is not together yet we have a planned coherent costume and i uh yeah well we'll.

0:25 Talk about it yeah i i watched uh.

0:29 Ben Affleck, Animals. You watched Animals? I have a thing.

0:33 I can't, for the life of me, get my shit together to go to a fucking movie theater.

0:38 I think it's just harder with a kid. But if something, I'm like, I have.

0:41 This crazy thing where I have a kid and I don't have any fucking time to go to the movies. It's weird. Like you're weird, man. What's your problem?

0:49 I think it's like, I'm so interested, but like every time, you know, like you get a second for fucking free time and then you're like, I gotta like lay down or something rather than be like, do I drag my ass to go see digger?

1:00 And then it's funny.

1:01 Cause I was talking to my friends who are childless. They're a couple. And we were talking about it. And like, when we were talking about the movie, they both looked at each other and go, oh wait, so is that going to be our movie this weekend? And they're like, yeah, okay, I'm going to.

1:12 Buy the tickets now. And I was like, you motherfuckers.

1:14 Wait, you were talking to them about Digger?

1:16 Yeah, just like the flexibility they had from our conversation to be like, yeah, actually we did go meet and to see that.

1:24 And I was like, I don't even have time to get out of the house. And they were so quickly like, oh, is that going to be our.

1:28 Movie this weekend?

1:28 I'm like, yeah, let's go see that tomorrow.

1:30 And I'm just thinking like, must be nice that you could just, Have a conversation and that quickly book tickets to a movie.

1:36 Our movie this weekend. God damn.

1:39 Like, what am I, fucking 25?

1:43 No kids?

1:44 No kids.

1:45 But it's funny because our movie this weekend is fucking getting through Twilight.

1:49 I'm still watching Twilight, baby. You're still working through it?

1:52 Yeah, I mean, it is a work of literature, so it should be consumed as such in chapters.

2:00 I see it as Mark Twain.

2:01 Yeah mark twain mullen um uh yeah that's my that's my type of literature real dumbed down.

2:14 That's your halloween costume mark twain mullen.

2:19 So you would just i guess that would be a mark twain costume but like it would have to be a mullet in some way like mullet or like you'd need to look like With the sleeves cut off.

2:29 You need to wear the white suit. Yeah, yeah.

2:32 Because he's kind of like a self-styled wannabe tough guy.

2:35 Bodybuilder. Yeah.

2:37 If Mark Twain was.

2:39 A wannabe tough guy in 2025, I think you'd get Mark Twain.

2:44 White suit, sleeves ripped off, white hair with a mustache, but the white hair is styled into a mullet.

2:50 Or you need his beard.

2:51 Because Mark Wayne Mullen's got a beard, too. So you just have a full white beard.

2:55 Yeah.

2:55 Yeah.

2:56 Anyway, we can workshop this with your kids.

3:17 My name is Jack O'Brien.

3:20 That over there is Mr. Miles Gray. This is the episode where we tell you what was trending over the weekends. What was trending over both weekends. No, over the weekend. What was trending so far on this Monday. And what's trending in our hearts. It's hot.

3:40 I was... I'm wearing like a jacket because, you know, we got like weather for two seconds and I'm already like hot. I'm jumping the gun, folks. People don't realize in L.A. we had rain for like a day and a half and I'm already wearing like a fucking down jacket as if I need it.

3:56 It's going to be 90 in two days.

3:58 It is chilly, though. There's a chill in the air for the first time this post-summer right now.

4:04 I just jumped on it way too quick. It's gray. It's rainy.

4:09 I will take it. I'm sitting across from an open window. You may hear the crows in the background.

4:15 Mocking me. Teasing me.

4:19 Daring me to do something. There's that experiment where they put a mask on and somebody fucks with crows and then the crows just will Remember that mask for years and like even generations. And like, that's what the crows are like with me, but it's like my beta energy.

4:38 They just can't forget how beta I am. It transcends even a physical form.

4:42 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like the crows in Missouri have come and told the crows in Los Angeles.

4:48 In a way, you're like Christ-like.

4:50 Yeah.

4:50 Where it's like, you won't, it's like, you don't even need to know the face. You'll know when, when you see his, when you see him. My body, my bodily energy.

4:58 Yeah. Anyways, this is the episode where we tell you what we think is underrated and overrated. Miles, what is something that you think is underrated?

5:09 Okay, I have one thing that's an underrated and overrated and one thing that's an overrated. My one thing that are a couple things.

5:16 What am I saying?

5:17 First, just broadly, I just want to say underrated and overrated at the same time, Twilight. I'm getting through it. I'm working the different movies. Wow. I just finished New Moon, and I think it's Eclipse. Yeah, yeah, the second one. And now it's like the one where they're sharing custody of Bella, getting upset at each other.

5:38 I was falling half asleep. I'll start the third one over again. That's Robert Pattinson and Werewolf Guy?

5:45 Jacob.

5:46 Yeah.

5:46 Jacob.

5:46 Jacob and Edward. Taylor Lautner and Edward and Robert Pattinson.

5:51 Uh, it's just like, it's funny because like, it's so bad that I'm like, what the fuck was wrong with everybody watching this?

5:58 But it's also.

5:59 So like sappy that I completely understand what the fuck was.

6:03 Wrong with everybody at the same time. It's such a surreal experience to watch.

6:08 I'm like, and this was 2000.

6:09 Well, this is also like partially how I measure the power of the icons when we're choosing icons. Like I was talking about this in this morning's, uh, notebook dump for Hannibal Lecter that yes, like we, we spent most of the episode talking about silence of the lambs, but like truly the power of the iconography is tested by the fact that he has also starred in like movies that sucked shit so bad. And people still are like, that's, that's my serial killer cannibal. Like that's my guy right there.

6:44 That's the AFI number one. uh, villain. So like, yeah, the fact that vampires are still out here and, you know, sinners is still a thing after the whole twilight saga. And you know, the twilight is your mileage may vary and does vary. Um, and I think it's good for what it is, but like, you know, the people who fuck with sinners might not be the same audience that fucks with twilight.

7:09 But that it doesn't matter. They're, they're still out here.

7:13 It's just like, I'm fascinated with the author too, because like the grasp of like narrative form is completely at like an abstraction.

7:21 To this person.

7:22 Like, I'm like, I seem like, wait, why is this character suddenly motivated to do this very different thing?

7:27 But that's, that's broad.

7:28 The other thing that I think is really overrated is, um, peace and calm as a way to feeling happier.

7:35 Never heard of this.

7:36 Yeah.

7:37 I've got a lot of, just some stressful things happening in my personal life that I'm, you know, just navigating. Uh, but one thing that I'm like realizing too, is when I'm like feeling happy, like stressed or unhappy about something. Sometimes you're like, how do I just want to start feeling happy or something? It's, it's much easier to access peace before you don't go from fucking unhappy straight to wee yippee. Let me get a wee yippee in here.

8:05 Unless you, unless you fucking hit some crazy ass drugs. That's usually not, that's usually not the sequence of events. That's why I think it's really important to think first when you're feeling stressed out, And maybe unhappy, uneasy. First, try and access just some peace, some tranquility, some calm.

8:21 Because first, you don't want to go from negative five to positive 15. You want to go from negative five to zero. That's manageable.

8:29 So take some time. I've been meditating. I do this thing where it's like you.

8:34 you, there's like many forms of this where like you, you're, you, you want to open your, your energy up a little bit and you're picturing a sky that has a smile to it and you want to sort of reflect just a light smile throughout your body back to it. And anyway, I was doing this and I found it much easier to like get out of a rut by first giving myself a moment of like tranquility, peace, then trying to be like, I need to be the opposite of unhappy and fucking bouncing off the walls happy.

9:02 I gotta effort my way into happiness.

9:04 It's easy, baby.

9:05 You can float to peace and tranquility first. Loose like spaghetti. If you're hearing what I'm saying and this makes no fucking sense to you, but something's catching your ear, Just to start off, try a guided meditation.

9:19 It's so annoying how well meditation works. It makes me so mad. Throughout my 20s and 30s, I was like, no, that sucks. That's dudes in goofy pants sitting somewhere. No, it's not. I meditate every day now. Guys, I'm not going to lie to you. I wish it didn't work. I fucking wish it didn't work that way, but it does.

9:42 I remember because, like, my dad used to do it, and as a kid, I would just see him sitting fucking still, not doing a fucking thing. And I was like, and he would be like, what I would, I'd be like, hey, hey, hey. He's like, I'm trying to meditate. And I'm like, dad, I thought you were sleeping.

9:56 Right.

9:57 And he's like, no, I'm being calm. And I was like, bro, this looks like a waste of fucking time. Cause you could be watching Ninja.

10:01 Turtles or some shit. Oh, you're wasting time.

10:03 Yeah.

10:03 Yeah. Yeah. I see.

10:04 But it's so, yeah, it's just one of those.

10:06 It's, Who'd have thought that centuries of medicine that's outside of the pharmacological industry actually has ways to access things?

10:15 How do I buy that in a pill at a store? All right. I got two underrateds as well. I got living like a parent in the 1960s and 70s for a weekend. Was that smoking cigarettes on your kids' heads? Exactly. No, we were up at this camp. So my kid's school goes to this camp. once a year and like they rent out the camp and the kids can just like roam free oh you did did you do this last year yeah we do this every year yeah okay i remember you get a little.

10:43 Cabin something similar like this yeah and uh.

10:45 The idea of not knowing where my kids are is such an alien concept to me and like like it made me realize remember that there was a famous psa in the late sixties and early seventies, that was, uh, would just come on TV at 10 PM and say, it's 10 PM. Do you know where your children are? And that reminded people would be like, Oh shit. Yeah, I do have kids. And like, this is the one time.

11:16 And it really is just roads. It's just streets that are roads that are too busy in where we live. I can't just let my kids roam and not know where they are because there are too many dangerous streets. It is nice to be able to find a place... once in a while where you can just be like, yeah, I don't know. They, they know where I am. They'll come back when they're hungry or tired. You know what I mean? And it's like easy.

11:44 Cause you know, it's such, it's, it's structured in a way that it's not meant for kids to be like, I don't know.

11:50 Oh, they get on the interstate. They just meander off.

11:53 The ground fucking road.

11:55 It's like, yeah, it just, they're with other kids and it's, yeah, I get it.

11:59 It is. I mean, it is what the, you know, did your, did your parents from, uh, who framed Roger Rabbit took from us? Were you out of the house?

12:07 Like a lot as a kid? Constantly, constantly. And then, so your parents, I was gone. So they didn't know either, right?

12:12 They didn't know. And there were definitely some times when they would be driving on a busy street and I was like four miles away from our house and there I was on my bike and they were like, what the fuck? But yeah.

12:28 But do you think about that?

12:29 Like when you think about your own kids and like, well, I had the ability, like I was fucking out there.

12:36 Yeah. No, I think it's valuable.

12:37 Like it does.

12:38 It makes me be like, I shouldn't live in a city with like, we, we, they should have that ability to just like be out and away from high traffic streets that, you know, can, you know, the, the number one cause of death for kids, like in my kids' ages, car accidents and pedestrian strikes. So like that's, And especially in a place where there's just tons of cars driving fast and recklessly and shit like that. Like it's just, it's a bummer that they took that from us with like the way that we build everything so that it's not public transport. Um, it's everybody in a car. trying to get where they're going. Everyone in a.

13:18 Car looking at their phone going 20 miles over the speed limit.

13:21 Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, exactly. Like that's the thing that fucking terrifies me is how many people, when I'm driving, I look over and they got their eyes on their lap. Yeah.

13:31 And when, in our age, in our days used to be drunks who weren't wearing their seatbelt.

13:34 That were the biggest, we're just like everybody's looking at their fucking phone. Um, I also like, uh, it's underrated by me how sometimes the answer, is just change the batteries. Um, because I, over like we were going camping, we have to get the flashlights that like, you know, we, we have the flashlights we use on a regular basis. And then like when we're all going camping, we had a couple more that for the past couple of years, I've been like, these are kind of on the fritz. They're like low, like the, I think the bulb is burning out or something. And like, they keep flickering. And then, um, My wife was like, have you tried changing the batteries?

14:20 And I was like, that's not good. And the light came back like new. It doesn't take a doctor to figure this one out, babe.

14:29 Ah, shit. It was... it was the batteries. They just, just as bright as the day we bought them. When I changed the batteries out, um, remote controls, I've also noticed work like this. Like I, I think I just assumed that when we made the switch to like phones being like, they work at a hundred percent and then you, the battery runs out and it's gone.

14:54 Yeah.

14:54 Like I assumed, or like, you know, car, like that everything was on like car status where it's like, it's going, it's going, it's going.

15:01 And then it's out of gas.

15:02 And it's not, it's not like the car slows down to 10 miles per hour as you get lower and lower. It's dying.

15:07 Although that might be a better idea. So you like give people a chance to get.

15:11 To, I remember my old Honda when I was getting low. Cause the shit, the, my gas tank meter was a lie.

15:18 It was, it was lying.

15:20 After you got past like right around a quarter tank that I would just have to vibe it out. And sometimes I would gun it and go like, it would just do a little, come on, man. I'm not, I don't got that much in me. And I'd be like, I would immediately be like, this is my time. I'm 20 years old and I have to actually start putting gas in my car.

15:36 And not playing a game like that. But also remote controls.

15:41 I've noticed. I've been like, this fucking remote is broken. It only works when I go right up to the thing and press it. And then low, I change the batteries. It works perfectly again.

15:52 You know, like that thing of.

15:54 like things being like the breaking down and I was just thinking like, well, it can't be the battery. Like that's just also part of like the in shitification planned obsolescence track that we're on.

16:04 Right. Yeah. Because think about with phones.

16:06 Yeah.

16:06 How many game consoles, like game gear, game boy, PSP there, you could put, you could change the batteries out on a fucking thing that would last as long as you kept putting new batteries in it.

16:19 Yeah.

16:19 And then when they were like, you know, we're sealing shit up. you can't get the battery out. Once the battery's fucked on this thing, the whole thing's fucked.

16:26 Yeah.

16:27 Like kind of gives us that sort of thing now too, where our, our first thing of like, probably just change the batteries.

16:33 That's always the first thing.

16:34 Yeah.

16:35 Yeah.

16:35 This is an answer that I probably had at one point in my life and that iPhones kind of drilled out of me.

16:41 Yeah.

16:41 No, I would think the same thing.

16:43 And I'm like, I thought all technology works better rather than the time honored process of, power source weakening.

16:50 Uh miles what is something that you think is.

16:53 Overrated overrated and i'm not and i'm the the people who may have been hosting this party may be listening i'm not trying to shade you at all okay no this is something just struck me as i was attending uh i went to a halloween party this weekend level okay brag congratulations but it was like a costume halloween party And that's early with very enthusiastic people who will wear costumes. Yeah. I, myself, I'm less, I'm less of the costume type cat.

17:25 You're the other person in the Babadook picture.

17:27 Exactly. The one being like, God damn, what is this? Drinking wine in a flannel shirt. Yeah, exactly.

17:35 But I was just sort of like, I was having this conversation with her majesty on the way there.

17:39 Cause I wasn't complaining.

17:40 I was like, what to you is like the, When should costume parties begin?

17:46 When should we expect you to have your costume locked down for the year?

17:50 I feel like if you're barely getting to the double-digit dates before the 15th, that feels early to me. And I don't know why. Because, I get it, once it's October, I do agree, it's spooky season now. I'm fucking doing it with watching Twilight and all this other weird shit. You know, kind of.

18:08 Scariest movie there is? I know. Trust me. I have to pause it constantly and leave the house.

18:14 But I just like, there was something about that, that felt, I think, I don't know why, like I was being precious about her mask. She was like, no, it's great because now we get to like have fun and wear costumes ready. I'm like, for me, like it feels like such a potent thing. I think also because typically as a kid, I only had the one costume I was rocking for Halloween stuff.

18:32 Every year?

18:33 Well, like, in one year, I had one costume for that year.

18:38 And, like, I remember, like, in sixth grade, when you have kids who have birthdays around this time, like, they might have a Halloween birthday party that's a costume party or something. And I had to wear my same damn mad scientist smock fucking three times somewhere. And by the time Halloween came around, it was like, Oh, you're gonna be the mad scientist. Right. So that kind of in me put a thing where I was like, well, I was like, well, God damn, Brittany got fucking five different fucking costumes.

19:01 Yeah.

19:01 Fuck a party. We go costume changes.

19:03 So for me, I'm like a really, you hold your hand, you hold your cards close.

19:08 Wow.

19:08 You hold, you play it closer to the day.

19:11 I think it's probably just inbuilt from my own trauma from having to wear the same damn mad scientist smock constantly. Yeah.

19:20 I mean, I have a, I have a like go-to costume that I can just throw on if, you know, if it's an off season thing, you know, independent this year, I'm, I'm Poseidon. We're doing a family theme of Greek. What kind of wig?

19:35 What kind of wig is that?

19:37 Uh, we're working on it. It's gonna, it's going to be a beard wig and a hair wig that I believe is blue is the, one that we got on?

19:46 No, not necessarily. But it's going to give us an ocean vibe.

19:51 I like that. Okay. But, you know, I got my Jedi on standby in case it's needed.

19:57 See, before the fire, I had so many wigs. I could just throw a wig on, a weird outfit, and people were like, hell yeah, brother.

20:03 I'm like....

20:05 You look amazing in a wig, by the way. You are one of my favorite.

20:09 I have a friend, Todd, who looks amazing in a long wig, and you are also on that list of my favorite people in a wig.

20:16 I just got to walk by Lorne Michaels.

20:18 I just got to keep walking Lorne Michaels every day.

20:20 We should put you on the show, not just because you're funny, but because of how good you are with wigs. No audition.

20:25 I don't even do that. Do we have any character bits?

20:28 No, bro.

20:28 I got this wig, bro.

20:29 Take it in. Put the blonde wig on. The way you comb the hair out of your eyes is really... amazing yeah yeah.

20:37 It's look when when you don't got it you you fantasize constantly about having hair so it's just the thing i always think about how i put it behind my.

20:44 Ear i will say my kid like doing my kid's hair.

20:47 I'm like god what a head of hair on these little fuckers oh yeah it's real fun same with mine like get in there yeah he.

20:53 Got uh pictures picture day today and the way i was like no let me just get a little more volume right here looking like vidal sassoon or.

21:00 Some shit i love doing my kids hair um All right. Uh, for you overrated for my over. All right. First it is indigenous people's day. Uh, so I do have to just shout out, uh, for overrated, the founding myth of America that, so obviously Columbus is, is for some people it's Columbus day, uh, evil fucking in this house.

21:26 Columbus is a hero.

21:29 Exactly. Uh, but, He, you know, quote unquote, discovered America in 1492. The Pilgrims came in 1620. And I just think it's like one of the biggest, like the question of why 130 years elapsed between those two dates is. Something that people like don't talk about that 130 years. And the reason is, was because it was full of indigenous people like thriving, doing great. Uh, and you know, when people would come over to try and quote unquote, settle it, they would either get like beat back if they were obstinate or they would just join up. They had a much better way of life that would like, that was a major problem that Benjamin Franklin wrote about that, uh, at the time when it was like, how do we keep,

22:22 all of these people from just going and living with indigenous people.

22:27 Because the brand is strong. The second they see it, they're like, I'm having that.

22:31 Because their way of life is so much better. And a lot of the founding fathers also, like, recognized that and stole a bunch of ideas from them and never gave them credit. But, yeah, there was a one-way street of defection. Like, white people, quote-unquote, going native or going savage is what they called it at the time, was a massive problem. No problem with indigenous people wanting to join.

22:55 Huge problem. indigenous people wanting to join, uh, the white society was like, there were like a handful and they became massive celebrities because they were like, see, um, but in the early 1600s, like the, a plague swept through and that's way. And it was brought by white people, of course. And it wiped out the indigenous population. And the story of the settling of America was actually just white people showing up and being like, man, There's all these houses here that we can just move right in.

23:31 Like, there's journals from, like, Plymouth.

23:35 From, like, Plymouth Rock where they're like, yeah, we moved into the homes of the dead indigenous people and we're, like, using their bowls. It was like they moved into a post-apocalyptic society. Yeah. All of it, like, from... prebuilt towns to like the the way the forests were cultivated perfectly for survival and like all all of these different things that they just completely wrote out of like how it was happening that like this this was a post-apocalyptic society from a thriving civilization and they just were like yeah we showed up and uh kicked some ass and it was like no you battled the post-apocalyptic remainder of a thriving society. Prior to that, you spent 130 years being like, nope,

24:24 not going over there because people live there.

24:29 And had the good fortune to be like, oh, and then I can just take over their inbuilt infrastructure to sort of have the foundations of my own colony here.

24:38 Yes. Yeah.

24:38 I mean, it feels like very American too.

24:40 It's like always, uh, no recognition for the momentum and which is carrying you in the future now and.

24:47 Be like, yeah, that's like, and we're doing it all.

24:49 It's great. It's great.

24:49 It's like, no, actually you came and basically all of these people were displaced, ethnically cleansed. And you're like, Oh, at least I got bowls now.

24:58 So I don't do that.

25:00 Like a prebuilt continent, um, and showed absolutely no gratitude. And now, uh, are, uh, you're, you make movies about hauntings. They're like, this is an Indian burial ground. That's the only way that they deal with that. Give respect to just like feel vaguely, deeply guilty about it. So yeah, always, always want to shout that out on, uh, indigenous people.

25:26 Next year it'll be Chris, it'll be Columbo day.

25:30 That's right. We're going to do a Columbo episode on Christopher Columbus Day. I also have a kind of a cunty Halloween one for my overage. Halloween decorations where the entire yard has been art directed. Like the lights all have a theme and they've like chosen a color palette. Like I just, you mean the antithesis of your design style?

25:55 Yeah.

25:55 As you say, the antithesis of your design style.

25:57 Yeah.

25:58 Our holiday decorations were all bought from different stores in different years. Makes sense.

26:02 In different moods.

26:04 Yeah. And like some of them have been put up by my eight year old and some by my 10 year old and some by us.

26:10 And, There's just something... And you can tell.

26:14 That, by the way. Like, some of the shit is just falling out of trees, and some of it, you know, it's a little better. Not gonna say whose is whose. Okay.

26:22 Mine is falling out of trees. But there's... Something.

26:25 About everything looking like it was put together by the same set designer that, like, feels... Totally. Again, this could be jealousy, but it does feel like I'm at a Halloween-themed business instead of at a house. You know what I'm saying?

26:38 It's definitely jealousy, but it's also not misguided. It's not misguided. Because you would be like, damn. Because you go, god.

26:45 Damn, what money are they fucking spending on this shit?

26:47 Yeah, because it's, like, all one thing. Like they did it all at once.

26:52 I get that feeling too.

26:53 Like, especially when I was putting up like Christmas decorations this last year, not that I live in an area where like people are going like, Oh, ham with it. But like, I remember putting up my very normal, like old school, like primary colors, Christmas lights with the big bulbs like that.

27:10 We used to use in like the eighties.

27:11 Yeah.

27:12 Um, that was like John Travolta as Bill Clinton themed.

27:15 Yeah.

27:16 When you say primary colors.

27:17 Yeah. Thank you.

27:20 And then I remember seeing like, Oh, really nice one where like, clearly someone had like a bucket and like a lift truck, like a, like a, proper equipment to put things and i was like that looks great don't get me wrong it looks great but i realized too like the magic is also you kind of like seeing the person's collection of like just their crisp because that's more normal most of us aren't hiring a company to just put shit up and then take it down when the season's over it's an accumulation of your like trinkets that you fucking adorn your little house.

27:52 With And I think it's more fun. When the lights, when the Christmas lights are evenly spaced along like the edge of the house, I'm like, that, yeah, that doesn't feel like Christmas to me. Get a fucking grip. No, yeah, yeah.

28:03 You want to see like the stressed out familial arguments present in how it's already designed. You're like, oh, somebody was getting angry up there, putting that up. It looks like they just tossed it over the chimney at that point.

28:15 Like one colorful string and then like a bunch of white ones over there.

28:19 And then, you know what I mean?

28:20 Like, Some yellow ones that don't quite match the light ones. Yeah, but you bunched up the slack around the corner and just said, fuck it, bro.

28:29 Nobody's going to look back here.

28:30 That's right. Yeah. Anyways, congratulations to the people who have successfully art directed. Congratulations to you.

28:38 So happy for you. Everyone's talking about it. It's probably what you wanted, right?

28:43 Oh, man. Yeah.

28:45 Just saying a lot less foot traffic for the witch this year.

28:47 Oh, man. Don't tell me that. This was just thrown up. This hasn't been thought through as a cohesive theme.

28:56 Can you dress it like Sidney Sweeney and put it in like Novig.com underpants?

29:02 Novig.com. Yeah.

29:04 Yeah.

29:04 Well, we do have a sponsor. We're working on a sponsor for our Halloween decorations.

29:08 Oh, great.

29:10 All right. We're going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back and talk about what is trending. We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. And Kelly Clarkson was all over the news this weekend. By news, I mean, like, social media.

29:34 But even, it got to, I was even, it pierced the veil for me when I was just, like, barely. I try not to go on social media a ton. And immediately, people were ambiently talking about it already.

29:45 I was like, what the fuck is going on?

29:46 It was like a real whiplash situation where... So, she tweeted out an anecdote about a recent trip to a Brooklyn store called Art of Play.

29:56 And she basically....

29:59 Compared it to that scene in pretty woman when Julie Roberts gets shamed at a fancy Rodeo drive store. Um, she said a clerk looked at me as if I couldn't afford it and was told he could find something comparable for me adding, wow, dude, you're an idiot and just lost a huge sale. Um, which, okay. So I don't.

30:23 Think a, If you enjoy being treated like Julia Roberts, like, she literally, she was like, if that's what you want, then for sure, check it out.

30:32 Thumbs down emoji.

30:33 Yeah, thumbs down, thumbs down. Oh, aren't we?

30:36 Oh, God. What happened, Kelly Clarkson?

30:38 I do think that there's a difference between... rodeo drive and a brooklyn puzzle store yeah i can definitely see the uh employees at a brooklyn puzzle store being uh not super nice to you i don't know maybe they just didn't like your whole vibe though you know like that feels more likely at a brooklyn puzzle store than like you can't afford to shop at our puzzle shop.

31:09 No like I feel like, if anything, it's like one of those things where you go to a store that, like, a cool store, and even the motherfuckers that work in there, they're too cool.

31:17 They're also too cool to even help you.

31:18 They probably knew exactly who you were, and, like, that was the problem. It wasn't like them being like, who's this poor person? They were like, oh, this is television's beloved sweetheart, Kelly Clarkson.

31:31 Fuck that.

31:31 You know what I mean?

31:32 Oh, hey, Justin Guarini's girlfriend just walked in.

31:36 Right? Justin Guarini? That's so obscure. Yeah.

31:42 Uh, so what she was just trying, I, I mean, it looked like from the review bombs I read. Yeah.

31:47 So this looks like a pretty.

31:49 Straightforward, you know, puzzle, like one of those knickknack stores that usually don't survive recessions.

31:55 It, uh, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's, it's got a funky writing. Like it's got a sign where they've made the font to look like it's handwritten. I love that. Art of play. Uh, so I don't know. I do also just like something that even in the initial wave, I was like, I think it's a little weird that she turned it into a can and can't afford situation. Yeah.

32:20 Like there's so many other explanations. You've already lost.

32:23 Yeah.

32:23 Yeah.

32:23 With that framing.

32:25 So people review bombed the store. Um, somebody was standing outside of the store with a, we stand with Kelly sign, uh, uh, for at least a second long enough to get a photograph taken.

32:38 It's crazier that like Kelly Clarkson has stands outside of places where she's been, you know, mistreated faster than even like Andrew Tate could get people outside of his fucking jail.

32:50 Yeah.

32:50 Just that's, that to me is actually kind of one of the most eerie things is that within hours of this tweet, someone has a, we stand with Kelly outside of.

33:00 A fucking puzzle store because she said.

33:02 Uh, they treated me like I was one of you broke boys is what I'm getting from it.

33:08 I'm like, what happened? Um, and I know a lot of people love Kelly Clarkson. Yeah.

33:15 No, I don't have a problem with that.

33:16 I'm just here to give an outsider's perspective. Um, and one thing that I like, people are really jumping like seesaw, like from one side to the, all the way to the other. And they're like, uh, you know, uh, Kelly Clark's was being, you know, treated like shit. It was pretty one, just taking her at her word. And so next, the next development is that the store owner is like, okay.

33:44 So she was trying to buy something that wasn't for sale and that is permanently attached to the wall. All right.

33:52 How much do you want for a golden goose?

33:53 Wonka?

33:54 All right. Hit her with that shit.

33:57 Come on. Um, and so it's a, it became a real, like he said, she said, store said Kelly Clarkson said situation because then she clapped back and was like, oh, okay, well, what about this picture of the very thing she was trying to, uh, buy in a five week old Instagram post, uh, with a for sale sign on it.

34:21 Um, but it's like, I don't know yet. Maybe it changed.

34:25 It's really, it's like, see the thing, getting caught up in the minutia of it all is just so strange because I think just on it from, from jump, someone who is a millionaire complaining about not being able to buy something at a toy shop and using your platform is just like odd to me.

34:43 Like, and it's like, you weren't.

34:45 Like violently denied service or discriminated against it. If, if what we're reading is right, you asked to buy something that wasn't for sale for I've yet to see.

34:56 A version or be able to conceive of a version of this where it's justified from her perspective. You know what I mean?

35:03 Yeah, I mean, I could also see something like this where she goes, oh, I'd like to buy this thing.

35:08 And they go, oh, that's actually not for sale.

35:11 Name your price. I'm really serious. I would love to have this in my home. And really, money is not an object. And they go, well, unfortunately, this is actually, it's part of the store. So it's just not for sale in any capacity at any price. But we can maybe find something comparable that... you could buy, Oh, something comparable for me. We don't think I just like, I'm trying to be charitable as much as possible to Kelly Clarkson for her to.

35:38 Be justified in tweeting about this shit.

35:41 Yeah. But it's like, and I can totally see the clerk being an asshole. Like I'm sure like for it to get this sort of response, it's just like when, like even in the very first tweet, when the thing is, you wouldn't let me pay whatever, like you, you wanted for this. It just feels weird. It's like, yeah, I don't know. That's kind of, I just.

36:07 Don't think it doesn't matter how you're treated.

36:09 Motherfucker.

36:09 You are worth.

36:10 Millions of dollars. Yeah.

36:12 You are on a TV show.

36:14 Yeah. You don't, I don't give a bro.

36:17 If someone is working in sales.

36:19 Yeah, bro. They were fucking rude. Yeah.

36:22 You should be like, man, I'm glad I'm fucking Kayla.

36:25 I'm glad I can walk in here and offer people fucking 15 racks for a fucking bird that was installed on a wall somewhere.

36:31 Yeah. Like that is what it was. It was a perspective. She's like, yeah, no. And then here's a price tag that says $ 15, 000. So I would have paid that. And it's like, you would have the fuck is going on with this thing. This bird better fucking learn my name and, you know, be my constant companion.

36:49 I just don't, I don't, I don't get it.

36:51 Like, even if I'm a fan of someone, you gotta know what the era we're living in. Right. And like dunking on salespeople when you are already doing a thing that most people cannot identify with. I'm not like, I get it. I go into stores all the time. I'm like, how much you want for this part? That's inbuilt the store.

37:09 That's not for sale.

37:10 Right. And I'm serious. God damn it. Cause I'm rich. Kelly Clarkson spend $ 15, 000 at your store.

37:16 It just feels like such a weird thing for this moment. But I get it.

37:20 People are so like, She has fans who've, like, you know, we're, like, all roughly the same age.

37:26 Like, that first season, like, I get it.

37:28 I was there. Powerful voice. Powerful voice.

37:32 Powerful voice. But I just don't think that's not a battle that we need to hear about. It's like Goliath being like.

37:38 This motherfucker hit me in the rock with an eye with a rock.

37:42 Right.

37:42 Yeah.

37:42 And you're like, I don't know.

37:43 Okay.

37:46 Sure. I just don't, I think everybody has been treated like shit by like a customer service person or, you know, something like that. And so people are probably grafting their own bad experiences, but this just doesn't feel like that's what, but this is the thing to represent that.

38:00 Yeah.

38:00 It's like, Oh, cause yeah.

38:01 Like to my point, it's like, cause certainly all of those people, even if they've had a bad experience in a sales con like a context, uh, they've also, they can appreciate the experience of trying to buy a thing that is not for sale and saying, just name your price.

38:15 That's not.

38:16 Yeah, that's not the one. That's not a universal. We've not had that experience. That's not universal, babes.

38:26 All right.

38:27 Other people who went viral over the weekend, famous people, Ben Shapiro. People are mad at Ben Shapiro. Because of his ice movie? Yeah. We'll get to that because there is a development in the Danny Trejo side of that. Oh, that tweet.

38:42 Yeah, man.

38:43 Yeah. So he tweeted about the Chicago White Sox at a time when the Chicago White Sox were up 2-0. They had incredible vibes. Like, they had, like, all these players who had, like, really fun celebration videos. And they were just.

39:01 People were, like, on board with the Chicago White Sox.

39:04 People were like, I mean, the fucking... the Pope is a White Sox fan. Like this, this seems like a team of destiny. Yeah. They're up to, Oh, in a first to three game series against Cleveland.

39:16 Yeah.

39:16 And he tweets and fans were immediately like, fuck Ben Shapiro, Chicago White Sox.

39:23 It's like Drake wearing the fucking uniform or some shit.

39:26 Yeah. No, Ben Shapiro just cursed the Chicago White Sox, one fan commented under his post.

39:33 What was he saying about the White Sox?

39:35 The best thing happening in America right now is the Chicago White Sox. Just saying. Oh, God. Just saying.

39:42 It wasn't even like a political thing. That's what's scary about it. I'm sure the fans like he's trying to get in on this shit.

39:48 What are you doing? What are you trying to get the fuck away from our fun, bro? Why? Well, don't just say that shit. Why don't you keep our team's name out of your mouth? Anyways, that's exactly what happened. After his endorsement, the team never won again. They dropped the next three games and were eliminated in the playoffs by.

40:07 The guardians on Saturday night.

40:09 So shout out to Cleveland.

40:11 Yeah.

40:12 Shut up the fucking Rays. They swept the Yankees. Swept the Yankees. Rays v.

40:19 Guardians.

40:20 Dodgers v.

40:22 Brewers. Which doesn't look so good for the Dodgers at the moment. No. I mean, they were.

40:30 Look, it was a close game, but I definitely seeing how they were playing.

40:36 Yeah. Anyway.

40:37 This happens.

40:38 It happens. There's a, so there's also a post going around from Danny Trejo's son. saying that his dad was misled into the Ben Shapiro movie. Like his agent was just agents like need to hire us to come through and just be like, Hey, so here's the political landscape dipshits. Like, so his agent was like, this is a complicated movie about complicated people. And the only hero involved is you, Danny Trejo, because you're a shop owner and, uh, like didn't tell him the Ben Shapiro was involved. Uh, and then weeks into shooting on the movie, people caught word.

41:20 It was a Shapiro joint.

41:23 And Danny Trejo's son was like, he, I had to be like, this is who Ben Shapiro, he didn't know who Ben Shapiro is. He's 82. Right. So now he, he's like, and he's contractually prohibited from like criticizing the movie and criticizing.

41:39 Ben Shapiro, which I don't know. I don't know contract law.

41:43 It does certainly seem like there are times when people are doing press for a movie that they fucking hate, you know what I mean? Um, so I don't know if that's what, this is one of those situations. I will just say when everyone hates you so much, That they give you, like, that you being associated with the movie is like, fuck, I really don't want to even touch this. And that they give you magical, like, season-ending baseball powers. Right. And you're only, like, this is also true of, like, Ted Cruz, but Ted Cruz, like, I understand what he's doing. He's, like, there to.

42:23 Help rich people and in turn be helped by rich people and get rich and be powerful. And, you know, he's sore on, but Ben Shapiro is, he just wants to be a popular public figure. And like, he just has such a stink. Right. Like, I don't know, man, maybe get out of the limelight. Yeah. Let's rethink this career.

42:46 I mean, this is, I was saying, even with this, this is a second daily wire thing. Danny Trejo has done. So I'm, I'm having, yeah, he, he was, he was a.

42:56 Voice in that Adam Carolla, Mr. Burcham series.

43:00 So like, I'm not as, I'm like, look, bro, I get it.

43:05 You're an older actor.

43:06 I have friends whose parents are like older actors and you got to keep your SAG health insurance and shit. You got to be, you got to be earning a certain amount to keep your fucking health insurance that keeps you alive because the second you're off it, like you're fucked.

43:21 I could understand.

43:22 It's like, bro, I.

43:24 Have to make a certain amount to keep my SAG health insurance with this union. Again, I would be like, it's a pretty shitty move, dude. But to act like you don't know anything, I think, is a cop-out.

43:37 I don't know anything.

43:40 And his agent, it's.

43:41 Not like Danny Trejo's at UTA or some shit. You know, so this agent probably figuring out like, bro, we got to get.

43:46 Every fucking gig we can get.

43:48 So I'm going to just say, Hey, it's a movie about ice and leave out some other details to get him to sign the dotted line.

43:54 And I can get my coins.

43:55 Then I can totally see that too, because this is what happens with any sort of entity that revolves around a singular person being like the profit engine is like at a certain point, you're going to get advice that isn't in your best interest.

44:09 It's also in the best interest of the people that are relying on you to be working.

44:13 You are a company, and they're going to make some decisions for you that aren't going to work out.

44:18 And he said, like, it's not even, like, his son is also, like, it's not even, like, pro-anything.

44:22 I'm like, come on, bro. Wait, he said that?

44:24 Yeah, that was, like, one of the things he was saying. Oh, I thought he was saying that that's how it was pitched to him.

44:29 He said he was booked on a film called He said the way it was pitched was that it's complicated. But he said that maybe it was presented as that. Either way, it's like if you read the script, you... Whatever, man. This is where we're at, too, because it's funny. You have people who are in the twilight of their career and are probably more open to doing whatever. And Danny Trejo was never being super intentional about the things he was in. He was definitely like, bro, I'm lucky. I can just start working. Let me just, let me just fucking get these checks. But, uh, I, yeah, it's, you got, at the end of the day, you got to know what the fuck you're getting into, especially with something as charged as a topic like that. If it's that complicated

45:15 and it's presented to you as that complicated, then you, then you owe it to yourself and your fans to know what the complications are and how you, you know, reckon with those.

45:25 All right.

45:25 Let's take one more break. We'll be right back to talk about ice.

45:29 Mm-hmm.

45:39 And we're back. We're back.

45:42 Yeah, man.

45:43 I still, I mean, like there's last end of last week, there was reports about how they are now in hyper fuck, got fucked up goon mode, just snatching anyone off the street.

45:55 Yeah.

45:56 Uh, trying to raise arrest quotas, um, kidnapping quotas rather. And yeah, in New York last week, 28 year old Oscar Belgal in, uh, he was tragic. Like he had an interaction with ice that was, tragically predictable bunch of goons hopped out with ars in plain clothing the guy decided he's not about to get robbed and tried to drive away uh but as that happened they fired shots into the car where he was hit in the neck fortunately survived jesus people are pointing out the same things you know as is the norm with anything involving ice like why are they in plain clothes and masks yeah why are they shooting guns in the middle of crowded new york streets Why did they shoot into a car with a child in it? And people were like, oh, well,

46:43 they didn't know a child was in there.

46:46 You have to assume.

46:47 Always. Always.

46:51 So, yeah, his five-year-old had a front row seat to the ICE violence. And many people are, again, asking Mark Wayne Mullen, who's now the head of DHS, like, what the fuck is wrong?

47:01 I mean, it's like rhetorical at this point.

47:03 You go, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? It's like, but yeah, what could possibly be wrong when you have a group of people where there's a less than zero chance some of them have a documented history of violence or arrest record?

47:16 His response is.

47:18 Very cold and reminds me of another group of people who are very callous towards human life. But here's Mark Wayne Mullen trying to explain why they were shooting in a car that had a five-year-old in it.

47:29 Well, let's be clear about this, too. Do you know who knew the five-year-old was in the car?

47:33 Sure, Oscar Delgado. Oscar did.

47:35 If I'm a father, which I am a father of six, and I'm going to do everything I can to protect my child, I promise you I would bend obeying the lawful commands that were given.

47:48 So, okay, you'll do whatever you can to protect your child. Imagine some fucking dickheads in plain clothing come out with guns on you. And they're holding some kind of badge. But to you, this doesn't register as anything. One guy was wearing a fucking construction vest.

48:04 Right.

48:04 Look like the fucking village people armed to the hill.

48:07 Yeah. You're yeah.

48:08 Maybe you are now in fight or flight and you will do anything to protect your children.

48:13 But he goes on.

48:14 The last thing I would have done is put my son or one of my kids in danger. He chose to accelerate at a rated speed, hit the vehicle in front, flare off and accelerate to another vehicle. He was a selfish individual. Why would you ever put your child into situations like that?

48:36 See, this is very reminiscent of IDF. They're using children as human shields kind of thing. I'm just asking questions here. Why would he do that when he had a child? Oh, I'm shooting into a car with a five-year-old in there? Why is this guy having a five-year-old in his car to get shot at to begin with?

48:58 Gangsters do that they have five-year-olds in every seat so that they can just like drive be driven around and protect themselves.

49:04 Just you know our that's actually how they operate a total lack of respect for human life is actually the fault of the victim.

49:11 Yeah you should have thought about that before you thought about that.

49:14 I'm a father six six six yeah fucking the yeah the new one yeah six so that actually makes me more father than anyone else six times the dad of that man yeah um it's just like so fucking terrifying like again that's the head of dhs because again they can't They'll never, they're not going to be, they're not going to admit something was bad anymore. Right. They've, they're, they're learning their lessons and they're like, no, the only way we can fucking survive this is completely ignoring when people are rightly, uh, observing and criticizing what the tactics are.

49:52 So they'll just go further and be like, well, he was selfish.

49:55 Yeah. Shouldn't have been doing that. Shouldn't have been running from us when we jumped out in plain clothes with guns pointed at him and told him to.

50:02 Free his five-year-old in the car. Hey, if it's me, if somebody goes, hey, man, stick them up.

50:07 I got a gun in here, and they got a trench coat, and it clearly looks like a banana or something in there.

50:11 I'm throwing my hands up. I'm getting got.

50:13 That's right.

50:13 Every time.

50:14 I'm actually throwing my kid at them as a distraction technique. This is also like shooting at a fleeing car in the middle of New York City is so wild. It's in a handful of 80s cop movies, but we know now that that's... The only people who don't know that that is absurd are, I guess, ICE agents. Who love 80s cop movies. Yeah.

50:42 Presumably love them, some 80s cop movies. All right. BBC is here to fix it all.

50:50 They... I mean, this is... So they're basically saying we need to change how we do things and meet the kids where they are on TikTok, essentially. It's... Yeah.

51:01 So the BBC, they have a new.

51:04 like head of news and, you know, and part of taking this position is talking about the priorities of the BBC now. Um, and Rachel jump is her name, uh, said that the BBC BBC news must quote, adapt urgently to ensure the UK broadcasters meeting audiences where they consume content in an email seen by deadline. Uh, the editor wrote quote, People are changing how they get their news and too many of them, particularly younger audiences, aren't finding us.

51:30 We need to adapt urgently.

51:31 We need to be where they are with journalism made for them to do what we need to be, to do that we need to be clear about.

51:40 How we can improve.

51:41 We need to test new ideas and we need to judge our success on outcomes, not just activity. So just saying this whole thing, we've heard this, especially as people were realizing like mainstream news outlets like, We're doing Israeli propaganda, yet young people are completely immune to it.

51:58 What's this dang TikTok thing that's going on?

52:02 I totally get where she's coming from because we're clearly monoculture is an antiquated thing. And there are now an infinite number of ways to get news, depending on even how you define the term news. But like this whole thing of like, well, we got to meet them where they're at. It just, to me, it feels like it's not that kids are like, why aren't they wearing JNCO jeans and talking about the coolest new Fortnite skins on the news? It's that I think, for me, I look at it too. It's like the news that I'm already just kind of rubbed the wrong way by. It feels like it's the status quo of Gen X and boomers.

52:39 And for us, that's a thing we are hostile towards.

52:43 It's like the scaffolding that explains the lack of upward mobility. Like that's what that is built on is this status quo. So young people, and I'll speak for myself, I don't want to hear stories about climate change from people that will not even come close to seeing the worst parts of it and are speaking about it with a sense of a total lack of urgency as if they know they are going to see some shit.

53:07 In the future.

53:07 Right so i don't that sort of rings hollow to me a bit and they also we certainly don't want to hear stories about inflation quote unquote.

53:16 Right that are just blowing wall street smoke up.

53:19 Our asses and not being real about rampant greed and that has completely taken over the world so if they're going to be informed about things and you want to inform.

53:29 Them then be honest and and actually inform them.

53:33 And I just don't think that's something that mainstream media is capable of because of the corporate capture and the people that have their.

53:39 Hands in it. So it's like corporate captured stories and they're not allowed to tell the truth, or at least when they do tell truths, they're like telling the other side of it, which is plainly bullshit.

53:50 Yeah.

53:51 More apologizing.

53:52 If a guest comes on and does utter the truth on the air and we're sorry about the comments made by our past guests, if they do not reflect the views of like, it's like, what?

53:59 But that person was just spitting facts.

54:01 Um, yeah, it just, I think their, their, their solution, it's much in the same way, like how I think, especially like Democrats try and think of the future too, where they're like, what do we do? That isn't the thing that's actually like pouring salt on ourselves, the slug of capitalism, which is what it's going to, it's going to take you doing things that feel like existentially backwards.

54:25 To you, um, to capture that audience. The exact opposite of, what, how you've been built in the past, like a couple of decades.

54:34 Um, just an interesting, like, I think more and more people are contending with it. Like, and it's harder and harder to sort of realize that's kind of the perspective. A lot of people have when they hear stuff like this, it's like, dude, I don't want to keep hearing about these billionaires and like what they're going to fucking do to like, let's, let's talk, let's speak critically. Let's be open-eyed about this and what their role is in everything that's happening around me. Because you're actively just lying to us about what their role is and trying to make them these like benevolent figures and like the most positive version of some of these stories.

55:05 Yeah. I think, yeah, I think it's that. And then I, I just think, I feel like so much like people will find whoever is going to tell them a good story. And I feel like a lot of the problem is that they don't have people like telling a good coherent story. I think a lot of that is because they're based on corporate captured like bullshit and only part of the story.

55:28 And like a lot of it is incorrect, but like, I don't know, you need to be meeting people where they are and hiring good storytellers to like take the raw material of the news that you're reporting and find ways to like tell people the truth and make it engaging. And I feel like that's a thing that like doesn't really happen because of just the inertia of like, being these institutions that were only built to like present facts and like disconnected weird. Cause I guess it.

55:57 Wasn't news to begin with. It was just PR for empire, you know? And that's, I think that's the thing that they're having to come to grips with. It's like, well, you know, some stuff was journalism, but other things too was sort of like to give people this narrative that kind of kept them away from really critiquing, you know, what, what actually ails them.

56:19 But also like using, you know, they have these massive fact checking apparatuses. Like what, why not use that on the 20 like bullshit stories that are doing the most damage to how people like people's ability to perceive the truth on a given day. And like that, you know, like just, it is true. Like if you meet people where they are, By taking it seriously when they like believe something that's incorrect and explaining why and like finding a way to make the truth as interesting as the lie that they want to believe, like then you're like doing your job. But I do feel like it's. both a combination of being beholden to all this bullshit. I really think, like, there are great storytellers working for these

57:08 institutions who I think just get demoralized when they try and report a story and are just, like, told, well, that's... we're actually not allowed to say that once we run it by the Israeli government.

57:19 They end up ceding ground to people like fucking Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens, where people, like we talk about this, like we're an outrage over what's happening to Palestinian people.

57:29 People go, oh, that's bad.

57:31 But then you have people like Tucker Carlson, like, well, Israel controls everything. Right.

57:35 And now they go, oh, fuck.

57:37 Yeah.

57:37 But now that's a story that they're hearing because on the news, you're just going to get some sanitized version that doesn't make sense to a person.

57:43 It's like, why would they just keep indiscriminately bombing?

57:46 Like there's no one's actually talking about what's the stakes are for anyone except in this very like flattened version. And so, yeah, people are going to look for who, well, I don't know what this version is, but this one's telling me a very compelling story, even though it's just laced with toxic antisemitism. That's enough because people are asking questions that, but if we're not fully discussing things rather than talking about maybe like why America needs like a forward operating base in the region, militaristically is what the exchange is.

58:21 Rather than like they control everything.

58:23 Right.

58:24 And really thinking about all of the nuances that, that, that go into a given story.

58:29 But yeah.

58:31 Um, hopefully I think I, I, I haven't, I have a feeling that as younger people are now, um, joining the workforce, albeit very incrementally because a lot of people aren't actually like leaving in certain industries, we'll hopefully begin to see something that like begins to resemble something a little bit more like of.

58:50 What we're talking about.

58:53 But it probably won't happen on, you know, channels where, you know, multinational corporations.

59:00 Are sort of being like, we sell gasoline.

59:03 Can we sell gasoline during this outbreak?

59:04 Yeah.

59:06 All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday.

59:10 October 12th. We are back tomorrow with the whole episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines. Get your flu shots.

59:21 Don't do nothing about white supremacy.

59:23 And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Law. Co-produced by Victor Wright. Co-written by J.M. McNabb.

59:33 And edited and engineered by Brian Jeffries.