YES! Quid Pro Quo! Nathan Fielder Is Elizabeth Holmes’ Muse? 10.09.26

0:05 I mean, obviously, congratulations. Congratulations.

0:08 Hey, thanks.

0:11 And condolences at the same time.

0:13 Yes, I know.

0:14 Condulterations. The two cons.

0:17 Condulterations is accurate, yeah.

0:19 Exactly.

0:20 What a wild experience, to say the least.

0:23 I know. All happening so quickly.

0:26 Yes, to be just fully devastated, to have my phone....

0:33 Your phone must have actually melted like a Dali painting.

0:37 Quite literally. It just started going off.

0:41 A D-A-L-I, not a D-O-L-L-Y.

0:45 My phone, that's literally how I found out. I got a text from a co-worker that was like, my heart is breaking for you. And I was like, what the fuck is she talking about? And then I immediately kind of knew. And then my phone started exploding. And then I saw the video. And then I was like, oh, fuck.

1:00 And literally, you guys, I don't know if you even understand the amount of people. You're right. I had to turn it off at one point because it was overwhelming.

1:08 It doesn't work anymore.

1:10 Yeah, it was truly a whirlwind experience. You know what I mean? But most people would have been really sad. And I was sad. But then I immediately, obviously, galvanized that sadness into something positive. And I flipped it around and was like, you know what? Hold on a minute. Wait a minute.

1:26 Flip that. Let me do something with that. I think that's from a Dolly Parton song.

1:30 You know?

1:31 Yeah.

1:32 Smack it up, flip it, rub it down. Smack it up, flip it, rub it down. Yeah. Rewind it back.

1:37 She was talking about flapjacks. It was about pancakes. She was like, guys, flapjacks.

1:44 Rub it down with butter.

1:46 It was truly rewarding because it's like, you guys know better than anybody. I've been flapping gums about Dolly Parton for years. I have been preaching the good word. You know what I mean? I started this petition when she was still alive because I wanted this to happen. And I'm devastated that it took her dying for people to take me seriously. But also for like three days, my Instagram...

2:08 was perfect. I saw nothing but Dolly Parton. That's all I've ever wanted in my entire life. I'm talking not a baby video, not a cute dog, like nothing but your Dolly Parton from around the world. And was just like, this is great. This is perfect.

2:27 Jack, didn't you say you went to a tennis thing on 925 and everybody was dressed up at this tennis thing for Dolly Parton?

2:34 Yeah, it was just a tennis... thing, like a pickup tennis game, basically like live ball. And everybody, it was like, this is for Dolly. And so it's, it was like, you know, a cute thing that I could see happening for another celebrity who had recently passed away. But the way they were talking was like, they were like, Oh, look at this. Look at this weather that Dolly gave us.

2:56 Look at that sunset that Dolly painted for us. And I was like, they really believe like, this is, Next level like this is we talk about on the icon episodes about like these icons being our modern day deities. But this is this truly feels like people are just like really, really like view her as an otherworldly.

3:20 I mean, yeah, if someone's giving it, giving up the weather to you, then that's a pretty big sign that you're some kind of God.

3:26 That was kind of my favorite stuff was like literally there was like a full moon like two nights after and they're like, she's been dead two days. She's already in charge of the moon.

3:33 We call it the Dolly moon.

3:35 Yeah.

3:35 Yeah. I mean, it was beautiful. Moon's on a cycle. So no, it was Dolly.

3:41 Listen, it was Dolly. She was, she was up there. But it was just great because everybody in the world was talking like I normally talk on a normal day where, you know, people look at me and I sound crazy and everyone's like speaking the words and I'm like, see who's crazy now. Who's obsessive now? The world is with me.

3:58 We freaking did it. You know what I mean? And I just, I also, I mean, I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't know if you all saw that rainbow that was in New York City that night that was phenomenal. And it was the week Dolly died. And it was this fucking fantastic rainbow that was unworldly on a pink sky. And yeah, there was a storm coming, but who cares? It's Dolly.

4:20 It's Dolly.

4:27 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 459, Episode 5 of Der Daily Zeitgeist!

4:33 It's a production of iHeartRadio.

4:35 It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news history version of the Daily Zeitgeist dropping each Monday morning called The Iconograph. It's not really new anymore. I should probably take that out of the script. But I read what I see. But yeah, we've been doing it for almost a year now. We've covered some amazing icons.

4:57 We cover the Zeitgeist through a different icon each week. Probably our most popular episode at this point. Freaking Dolly Parton with today's guest. We've recently dropped Oprah. We recently dropped Selena. And now we are in spooky season.

5:11 Go check out the Dracula episode from on Monday.

5:15 Uh we got three more spooky ass motherfuckers coming your way but here now it's friday october 9th 2026 october 9th is national what the what the fuck is this international beer and pizza day national moldy cheese day national uh That's it.

5:39 There's some other weird stuff I don't even need to acknowledge. Beer and cheese and moldy cheese? What was that? International Beer and Pizza Day. Okay. National Moldy Cheese Day. So shout out your Gorgonzolas and the like. Is that what they call them? Moldy cheeses? Just because they're moldy? Yeah, I guess so.

5:57 I always thought those were like just soft, ripened cheese.

5:59 Yes.

6:00 Right.

6:01 But thank you.

6:01 I think if it's got a little blue, if it's got a little blue, you know what I mean? Then that's what it means. I like that. But the egg day. I do too. World egg day.

6:09 Let's remember.

6:09 I wouldn't call it moldy cheese. World egg day. As the Geishau now has become, scrambled eggs has become the Geishau's favorite food. How do you prepare those? The scrambled eggs?

6:20 Yeah.

6:21 You got a method? Yeah. You crack them first? Whisk them.

6:24 No, no, no.

6:24 I whisk them. I get them nice and I already have the egg beat. And then a little butter, oil. Keep it low. And then just keep stirring it. Keep working it. Keep working it. Keep working it.

6:34 Keep working it.

6:35 Keep working it. Keep working it.

6:36 And then you get that creamy. And they still keep cooking after.

6:39 Yeah, baby.

6:40 So you got to take them off the heat before you think you need to take them off the heat.

6:43 You'll never see any browning on my scrambled eggs.

6:46 No.

6:46 Never.

6:47 Ever.

6:47 Yeah.

6:48 Okay.

6:48 Out of my house.

6:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not happening. Get that out of my face.

6:53 Is what my eight-year-old will say to me if I give him some brown scrambled eggs. Do you put any water in with the eggs?

6:59 No.

6:59 Ew.

7:00 Okay. All right.

7:02 It makes it nice and soft, but you can oo me all you want.

7:06 I'm not stepping on the eggs, bro. I'm cutting it with water. So the water does go away.

7:11 The water's not in with the eggs. The water evaporates and makes it very soft. There's a great Korean egg dish that I've talked about this before. Our listeners were mad at me because they were like, I tried it. It just made the eggs taste like water. to which I replied, Oh, you thought I was telling you to add the water for flavor. You thought I was like, wait, what are you talking about? Which dish do I get on Jim?

7:37 Yeah. Steam deck, steamed eggs.

7:39 Yeah.

7:39 I mean, they go hard with the water on that one, but it, you got, and you got to, we got to also add salt and you have to really fucking whisk the shit out of it before you do that too. Some people just be putting it in there and not doing the work. You have to, you have to get that foam top.

7:53 It's, It's all about that forearm strength. You got to get in there. Or if you're lazy like me, get you a little, those little coffee foamers.

8:00 A little, yeah, yeah, yeah.

8:02 Yeah, get one of the z-z-z-z-zings.

8:04 That is one of my, that needs to be one of my underrateds coming soon. Soon, soon, soon, soon, soon.

8:08 The little guy for coffee foaming that I use for a hundred different things. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I took a bite. I took a bite for you, of you, and sucked your blood right through. My fangs are all hollow. That one, courtesy of Embers and Snarfuel on the Discord, in reference to the big question about Dracula teeth.

8:36 Are they hollow?

8:38 Are they reverse snake teeth that suck your blood through them?

8:41 Hollow fangs.

8:42 Do they suck your blood? They had a second verse about going poo that I just didn't have the heart to do to the people. But I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

8:56 Miles Gray, a.k.a. the Lord of Lancashire, a.k.a. The Oracle of Delco. Yo, it's me. Yo. AKA. It's the Oracle. Miles of Graveyard. Yo, I'm here. Okay, shout out E. Coli, Cherry, and Paul G. The man to be, Paul Garaventa for that one. For those two. Fantastic. AKA. Goddamn. The Oracle of Delco is so good. I saw that in the Discord.

9:21 I immediately had to tell you.

9:23 I know.

9:23 You told me like a kid. You're like, dude, did you see what he said? I was like, did you see what he said? I was like, what? A new AKA dropped that I think should be a permanent fixture. Oracle Delco. Oracle Delco. That has to be like some sports radio guy, right? Right. Is that too highbrow for people?

9:39 Might be. Might be. This might just be your perfect sweet spot. They're like, he ain't even from here. Miles, we're thrilled to be.

9:48 Joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian, one of our favorite guests on TDZ a resident dolly parton expert disciple evangelist uh you can catch her on stage next week at don't tell comedy in nashville other stages coming up soon go check her dates uh please welcome back to the show It's Lydia Popovich! Lydia!

10:12 Yes, I'm here.

10:13 Hello, boys.

10:14 It's good to see you both. It's great to see you. It's good to see you both. Great to see you in your final incarnation of Airport Renamer God.

10:22 I know top boss of dolly parton fans yeah i dare you i dare you to say are so you like dolly parton i don't know i renamed an airport after did you like dolly parton.

10:37 I'm terrified for the the dolly fans who are gonna come across you thinking like oh yeah you like dolly parton you're like do i what do what literally what the fuck did you just say to me.

10:46 Bro You don't like Dolly Parton like I like Dolly Parton. You have no clue. I am unwell.

10:52 And it is a competition. A lot of people will say it's not a... It is a competition. It is. For that kind of shit.

10:57 It is a competition.

10:58 For, like, a fandom, when you can say, I did that, that's... You definitely hang your hat on that one. For sure.

11:05 And I also get to say, like, she for sure knew who I was. Like, I had speculated for some time. But clips resurfaced of her talking about our petition and... And I was like, oh, then she for sure knows who I am. She a thousand percent.

11:17 Isn't that beautiful?

11:18 I thought it was a joke. The person is a comedian. And I was like, oh, she knows who I am. That means I am.

11:23 On the list. The person is a comedian. You were in her brain, fool. Wow.

11:27 Which is honestly all I ever wanted to be. Achieved it. She knew I loved her that much. Whether or not I was on a list that said, you know, sort of, okay, cool. Or like, watch closely. You know what I mean? I don't know which list I was on.

11:40 She was aware of you and so was her security team.

11:45 Right? But I think I was on the good list because I showed up in so many places that I should not have been.

11:51 Like Amy Miller. Like at her house.

11:55 Actually never went. Have never drove past her house because I know that that's too much.

11:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

12:00 I was like, that's too much. Also, I've seen her enough. I don't need to be in her personal space. I don't want any people coming by to my house.

12:05 Also, I broke in once when she was on tour. It's pretty boring in there. Oh, that's weird.

12:08 Yeah, like, you know, never, like, collected a loose wig hair. You know what I mean? No dolly droppings were ever collected and preserved. Dolly droppings. That's what they call them. That's the official word.

12:18 Like, loose wig hairs or dolly droppings?

12:19 Well, most of the time, it's in reference to, like, loose rhinestones where she's been somewhere and they find, like, rhinestones on the ground or, like, a wig hair or... Usually a rhinestone or a sequined. Her team lovingly refers to them as dolly droppings.

12:33 She would actually be really easy to track.

12:35 Right?

12:35 She's sparkled up. She leaves a trail of sparkles. Blonde hair. Yeah. Maybe a press on nail or something. Who knows?

12:43 Only people that leave more detritus is like just a room full of drag queens after a drag brunch. Like if you're in a comedy club and it's like a Saturday night, you know what I mean? You're like, what's all this glitter? And you're like, oh, drag brunch.

12:52 Were they doing bingo? Yeah, it was bingo brunch. Yes, it was.

12:55 Yes, it was. Yeah, exactly.

12:58 Get all Sherlock Holmes on their ass.

13:00 Love the Dolly Parton.

13:01 How was drag brunch?

13:04 You're tasting the sequence? Yes, this is a drag brunch.

13:09 Is this an ostrich feather? No, no, this is a chicken feather and waffle. Chicken feather and waffle. Yes, yes.

13:16 Lydia, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things that we're talking about. We're going to check in on Kimberly Guilfoyle.

13:25 So I, out of self-preservation, was not keeping up with the whereabouts of Kimberly or the love life of Donald Trump Jr. And when I found out that Donald Trump Jr. was getting married, I assumed it was to Kimberly Guilfoyle like earlier this year. I was like, oh, those kids finally made it work. But I guess they broke up a while ago. She's still in the crew, though.

13:46 She's still in the mix. Which is odd. I thought she would just be completely kicked out.

13:51 In the rotation. Well, guess what?

13:54 She knows too much, I think, would be my guess. Anyways, we're going to talk about.

13:59 What she's been up to because she, no good, it turns out. She is Grifter City.

14:06 Number one resident. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about... The reviews are starting to roll.

14:11 In for You Can See Everything, which is probably the most we've talked about a movie before it came out in a long time.

14:19 Maybe ever on this show. With this kind of excitement, I'm trying to think. It's, yeah, been a minute. Others have come close, but not like this.

14:25 This is the Nathan Fielder documentary that comes out next week. The reviews have started rolling in, and it's one of those situations where you really need to go to Metacritic. Like, yes, you can get a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Many films have. But that just means that 100% of movies thought you were a 60% or better, essentially, that you were a C plus or better. And so go over to Metacritic and you will see that it is at a 98 on Metacritic with 15 reviews in, which is pretty wild.

14:56 And people are like, it breaks the form of documentary filmmaking and my brain. Like people are really effusive. Anyways, I just want to check in with where Elizabeth Holmes is in all this. And we have some new information about how the film came to be. It was actually her idea.

15:14 Perfect. Perfect. She recruited Nathan Fielder.

15:18 So we'll find out what legwork, what research she did to make that decision. All of that, plenty more. But first, Lydia, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

15:32 Right now, that search history just says points to Japan. I'm trying to plan a trip to Japan, and much like the Gen Xer that I am, I've got like 800,000 points, and I'm trying to figure out how to get two people lying flat all.

15:49 The way to Japan. That's funny.

15:51 With the least amount of money. And it is proving harder than you'd think. I'm like, I got more points than God over here.

15:57 And I can't get an F in.

15:58 Flight with an F.

15:59 That's your Gen X retirement plan, though. Don't touch those points. How are you going to live off them? You got to live off those points. Be careful. No, man.

16:08 I've run all my shit through Amex. These points is like, it's like Monopoly money.

16:11 Let's go.

16:12 I've been hoarding these for this trip. You know, you got to look up. Well, you're not going to find like a direct right from Tennessee. So what are you going to do? Fly to California and then take off from California?

16:20 That's that's what I'm thinking.

16:22 So then you take.

16:23 Through Chicago, but no, but Seattle and Los Angeles and San Francisco have been the three cities.

16:30 That's going to get the cheapest one. And look, you're not going to get like if you go live flat on United Delta or whatever, you're talking near ten thousand dollars. I'd imagine you go find zip air. the budget airline that Japan Airlines has, their lie flat seats are like a thousand bucks. And you just kind of, you can lie flat. It's just, it's like less amenities, but it's like the most accessible lie flat seat to Japan. And then what I'm saying is save your points so that you can buy a bunch of shit when you're in Japan. See, here's my deal.

17:01 Zip air just sounds like a fancy person saying zipper to me.

17:04 Zip hail.

17:06 Zip hail.

17:06 That just sounds like someone's going to zip tie me to like a board.

17:09 No, your zip hail is down.

17:12 Just file me like a CD into the plane.

17:15 You know what I mean?

17:16 And I'm like filed under P and then they just fucking push me out. Nah, man, I'm a big old bitch, and I like to stretch out. I'm also a fancy bitch, so I want all the stuff. You know what I mean? I want the Missoni little eye patch. I want all the things. I don't even drink anymore, but I'm like, pour a glass of champagne just so I can look at it, take two sips, and give it.

17:38 Back to you. This is gone off.

17:40 It's trash.

17:41 It's off.

17:42 You know what I mean? I don't know if they do it anymore, but on United, they used to give you a fucking ice cream sundae bar. You know what I mean?

17:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

17:50 I like the service. I want to be draped in luxury. I'm trying to figure out how to get myself on the ANA, like the good flights.

17:58 Oh, yeah, yeah.

17:58 Like, that's what I'm really, really after.

18:01 And you got to go to LA or San Francisco. Keep Googling, you know. Flying to Haneda. Flying to Haneda Airport. You know, that's the quickest way to Tokyo.

18:08 Yeah.

18:09 Well, and I'm trying to get to Osaka, too. But, you know, we'll see. I'm open to go to either. Holler at me. You know what I mean?

18:16 I got plenty of those no's from Japan. What is something you think is underrated?

18:22 Underrated, absolutely. I've experienced this in real time this year, and that is... taking a hard risk and leaning into something you are extremely passionate about. Obviously, the Dolly Parton situation, you know, renaming that airport was a big risk. Like, creating that petition and putting that online was basically signaling to the world that I was mentally unwell, right? And I stood on two feet with it, you know what I mean? As the kids say, I stood on business.

18:51 You know what I mean? I stood on business and I said it and it came back around and it ended up being something that was so much more than I ever managed it being, you know what I mean? And able to bring joy and prosperity to people and be able to like light up the light and be able to give basically a little, a rhinestone on her legacy was incredible. And that wouldn't have happened if I wouldn't have taken a wild risk. And if I didn't lean in hard into something I was passionate about.

19:13 Yeah.

19:13 Right.

19:13 And I feel like so frequently we're so scared to like be passionate about anything. You know, everyone's very nonchalant. Nobody wants to like anything too much.

19:21 Be chalant.

19:22 Yeah.

19:23 Yeah.

19:23 Go hard.

19:24 Go hard on your obsessions. Like some shit hard.

19:27 Yeah.

19:28 If that's what you're into, get into it. Who cares? Yeah. Like really, really love it hard. You know what I mean?

19:33 Why not?

19:34 What's going to cost you?

19:35 Do you mind if I ask you a question? How tall are you?

19:37 I'm five nine.

19:38 That's crazy because when you stand on business, you're seven feet tall.

19:42 Wow.

19:42 Exactly.

19:42 And I can't believe it.

19:43 That's what I'm talking about. People need to know that.

19:46 Okay.

19:47 Ten toes down. seven feet? Which does make flying very uncomfortable, unfortunately.

19:51 You're going to have to stop standing on business when you fly.

19:54 She stands on business class. She lays down in business class.

19:58 I lay down on business class.

20:00 I lay down on business class. Okay, that's how that works. But yeah, that's so true. We're in such an era where cringe is the word of the day and younger people are so... so risk averse and not willing to just like open up to falling into whatever their desire is and to really go full force with it and it's really too like i just saw a clip of chile the creator talking about this where he's like i see a lot of younger artists like they they put out a new song and then they just post it once and then they're done because they don't want to make it look like he's like he's like bro how much time did you put into that song to only post it once Like, let people know that you put time into some shit. I mean, it's just whatever. It's

20:41 not that big a deal. It's just whatever.

20:42 It's just, you know.

20:43 Okay, well, then that's the result you're going to get. It's just like the sound that God put in my heart.

20:50 But yeah, man, you have to be proud of something that you do, right? Like, get out there. Be proud of it. Say whatever it is that if it's, you know, something you say. I mean, obviously, if you... I mean, if you're passionate about some wild shit, like, that's a different story. But, hey, go off. Be passionate, I guess, you know?

21:05 Just be careful because there will be people who will also stand on business in opposition to you. And then it might get a little dicey.

21:12 But with Dolly, like, I was a little worried. I was like, God, I hope nobody takes this the wrong way. Like, I hope nobody takes this and thinks that I'm trying to do this to, like, go viral for me or to be, like, I was really concerned about, like, offending her family you know what i mean because i didn't want anybody to think that i was trying to take advantage of her death yeah was really in my head about it and i had to like talk to a couple people and they just reminded me like no man this is really good like this is dolly and it came through in the comments like i was waiting like waiting for something bad to happen in the comments and like literally all of the comments were positive there was

21:46 only like five or six comments on every single post in total after like over a million views there was like five negative comments.

21:53 Right she was the one that is just everybody yeah everybody no matter who was just like yeah we we fuck with dolly we love her so much and then there was one of the most instructive parts of doing the dolly research was that like there was a moment when a right-wing grifter on like one of those fucked up sites like got decided to write an article that was like why dolly parton is actually like a fucked up person and like that article lasted a day and a half on the internet and then the person like wrote an apology letter like they had committed murder yeah exactly came out i was like i'm so sorry i actually love dolly parton this was not the right way to make this point.

22:38 Right but the guy that person composed about eugenics and racism and like nobody's to say anything third rail don't fuck with dolly parton that's yeah no i.

22:48 Laughed because like there was like one string of comments from some lonely bot that was like uh about in reference to what i looked like and it was like she's over 175 pounds and i was like yeah 289 pounds what are of course you know and then it was like just other comments of like oh you know she's so fat she's gonna die early and then i just had fun with it because like i'm so confident in who i am like that shit doesn't bother me so i just was like having so much fun i was like yeah like let's hope i die early like being a woman on this planet is exhausting like i just you know it was like every time they posted something and then people started seeing it and like people fucking pounced on that person and then the comments like

23:24 magically disappeared you know But it was so funny to me that I was like, wow, even as a fat woman, like literally talking about the most beloved thing in the world, there's always going to be at least one fucking loser. One fucking loser that's like, but she's fat.

23:41 Yeah.

23:41 She's a, she's fat though.

23:43 I was like, I better, I better weigh in here.

23:46 Yeah.

23:46 All the more to fucking eat you with my guy.

23:48 Like, all right.

23:53 Like I am the big, bad wolf. I will come over, stand on my business, seven feet fall and fucking shit on your face. Like, yeah, I'm disgusting, you know?

24:01 Yeah, exactly.

24:02 It was so funny to me, but yeah, man, stand up, be passionate.

24:06 Don't worry about being cringe.

24:06 Be authentic to yourself and be passionate about the thing that, matters to you uh what is something you think is overrated.

24:12 Oof this one hurts my heart a little bit to say out loud but i gotta be real paisley park oh paisley park home of prince what happened overrated i love prince like even though he's problematic i i still adore prince i think that he was a musical genius i think he was an eclectic weirdo. I think that he made so many fascinating choices, you know, the way that he handled his music sort of contracts and everything in the late nineties and early two thousands is just gangster as hell to me. And I've always loved him.

24:47 And I recently went to Minneapolis to go visit Paisley park and to see Minneapolis. I'd never been to that city and I wanted to check it out. And Paisley park was just like such a letdown. Like it's a huge gigantic space and they let you into like a quarter of it. And it's, like, you're highly corralled. They're like, no, no, stand over here. Like, if you stand one toe over a line, they're like, no, no, no, you have to stand inside this line. Like, our tour guides were so obsessed with us staying in places that I was like, yo, is Prince alive? Is he here watching us? Like, is this why we can't go places? Because this bull was up here, like, literally, like, and all the stories they told were, like, really hollow and, like, It just was, like,

25:27 a bunch of weird diorama rooms that looked like a teenager.

25:30 Oh, felt very, like, sterilized, sanitized version of, yeah.

25:34 You just didn't, especially in comparison to Dolly, who, like, has curated exhibits and things, but they feel so personal and real. And all of this stuff was just kind of like, hey, this is where Prince lived. And I'm like, Prince lived like this?

25:47 Right yeah it's probably the difference between you lived in a museum well i think like that's the difference between dolly and princess as artists like dolly was so much more out there and open about everything yes prince was fucking in the shadows mystery person yes yeah so i'm sure when they pass away then everyone's like what do we how do we do this like because you know with dolly they're like bro dolly's trying to let everybody know who she was what she was about what her life was like and then i'm sure when they're looking at prince's estate they're like i feel like he would want us to throw people off the scent of who we really are. Make your own Disneyland while you are still alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

26:22 My biggest beef was like, this man dressed his ass off. He famously had a tailor shop and they basically show it. They're like, see up there? See those windows? That's where his tailor shop is. And you're like, so can we go up there? Yeah. And like, they don't take you up there. They just show it to you. And like, they show you outfits that are set up. And I'm like, show me the room.

26:40 I want to see the scale of what it looked like to make these clothes. Like, right. It's like doing a dolly tour and they're like, uh, and behind that nondescript office door is the wig vault. And you're like, uh, no, no, it's not relevant.

26:56 It was underwhelming. It was like $ 90. Like I just, it was really expensive and it just was not like, I did not like leave filled with Prince joy and love. I left a little disgruntled and like highly, like literally it was like, The conspiracy theorist in me was like, oh, yo, this dude's alive. This is part of a larger experiment.

27:17 I have weird, I came out of there feeling super weird. That or I'm like, Prince was a warlock and literally jumped into another body and is there still like, I don't know, man. It was weird vibes. It was very weird vibes in the building too. It's like an intangible feeling I can't really explain.

27:33 I think we're forced to draw those conclusions. Based on what you've told me, that the tour sucked.

27:41 I think we have.

27:41 To assume that what they're covering is that there are two bodies back there and one of them has Prince of Spirits.

27:48 You know what it is? I'm looking at the website right now.

27:51 It's paywall.

27:52 Basically there's three versions of the tour you can take which is crazy like he's like you can get the broke boy experience or you can go up another level up and be able to see the studio areas or you can go another level up and see these other record it's like crazy that you're just like oh to actually see the places where there was like an audio playback session you can listen to in the one of the studios you recorded it's like well you got you got 200 bucks for that Otherwise, I'll direct you to them.

28:20 Do you guys know how museums work? Exactly.

28:24 You can go to museums and see cool shit for cheap.

28:28 For pretty reasonable. And the thing is, you get to go to that studio. So I already saw it. They just let you hang out there longer and then play you some music. Because I talked to people who did the expensive version of the tour. And they were only out 30 minutes after us. And we were still taking pictures outside. And I was like, so was it worth it?

28:44 And they were like, no.

28:46 No, they just didn't take us out anyway.

28:47 I was like, damn. Yeah.

28:48 Yeah.

28:49 The only thing that was pretty awesome is, like, you have to, like, reserve everything in advance. Like, you can't just roll up. You know what I mean? Like, you have to really, like, reserve things in advance. And so it was me and my three friends and then an entire group full of 60-year-old Chicago house DJs that were, like, there on a tour, like, for some event. So, like, it was just, like, literally a bus full of, like, rad older Black people from Chicago that were having a time.

29:17 Like that's what made our tour fun is because these people were just having a time.

29:22 Yeah. They made it a good time rather than like the blank rooms you were looking in. And this is a, this is an outfit he wore. I also like to just reading the things like they have like this whole thing. It's like, you can't have no cell phones, cameras, smart glasses, any recording. It's all going to be in those bags.

29:37 They lock it up. I thought we were going to see cool shit. I was like, you don't want people to know how much this sucks.

29:43 People don't know how.

29:44 Much Prince has been transported into another human body.

29:49 That's why I'm like, he famously didn't leave a will. Who charges the state? Where's this money going? What are we funding?

29:57 Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You got $ 200 to see this room?

30:01 Come in. We'll play you this dusty-ass recording that was probably on LimeWire in 2003.

30:06 My last will and testament is this guitar solo.

30:11 Right?

30:11 I still do regret not.

30:14 Going to a party there. You know, when he's having all those parties. I wish I would have. I should have done it then. It's my fault for leaving.

30:19 Just crash. Yeah. Could have been invited. All right. Well, we're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back.

30:25 We're going to talk about Kimberly Guilfoyle. We'll be right back. What a tease going into the break.

30:31 I know we're just talking about Prince. We're coming back. Get a load of Kimberly Guilfoyle. And we're back. We're back.

30:48 And we're back.

30:51 Baby, we're back. Daily Beloved. We are here to talk about Kimberly Guilfoyle.

30:57 Yeah.

30:57 That's it. Look, they waded through.

31:00 The Dolly Parton and the Prince to get to the person that they really want to hear about. I am fascinated by Kimberly Guilfoyle. Not fascinated enough to know whether she was marrying Donald Trump Jr. or not, but fascinated because she has a starring role in a clip that I am convinced is going to be playing in museums of the future. which is the backstage clip at January 6th when they're all just like feeling themselves as the January 6th riots are happening.

31:32 And they're playing Gloria. Gloria, Gloria.

31:38 And Donald Trump is just like, watching the clips and like feeling himself. And then you like cut away to her and she's like dancing in a way that suggests she's.

31:48 Like on drugs.

31:50 So like, she's like treating January the sixth, like a fucking rave.

31:55 Yeah.

31:56 She was in the Gobi tent at Coachella. Yeah.

31:59 Just doing a fun little dance at January the sixth. Anyways, she was not the person who married Donald Trump Jr.

32:07 That's Bettina Anderson, Jack. Sure. With that wonderful wedding paid for by a Russian oligarch.

32:13 I will commit her to memory when she does a cool dance backstage at a historical moment.

32:20 Kimberly Guilfoyle also was Gavin Newsom's ex. Such a run.

32:26 I lived in San Francisco when they got married, and my roommate, like, worked at a club that Gavin Newsom owned that they had, like, the wedding after party at. Wow. And I just remember, she, like, worked the party, and it went to, like, five in the morning, and she just was, like, regaling me with stories of, like, cocaine being offered and, like, people being drunk. And I guess, like, she walked in and, like, the skimpiest, like, basically, it was of the era, but, like, a slip dress. Like, those that basically just look like a nightie. She just had this, like, slip dress, and I guess she was just fucking... wrong like everywhere like a nip slip in like stuff she's like it was the wildest shit i've

33:01 ever seen is just like the upper leshawns of san francisco just letting it all.

33:06 Hang out she's like forrest gump man if you wrote all these stories down she's been there done that been everywhere seen everything and i noticed shit yeah this.

33:16 Is top tier hoeing she's doing great.

33:19 And she got basically broken up with by Don Jr. right after the 2024 election. And she was so devastated that apparently it was reported that... Oh, it was after 2024? So it was that recent?

33:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:33 He was like, oh, we're going back to the White House? He's like, I'm off this, babe. Yeah.

33:37 Hey, things are kind of looking up for me. I can marry someone named Bettina now.

33:43 Bettina, dude. That's kind of where I'm at. And apparently she was... She was so devastated that President Donald Trump was like, ah, well, let's give her a consolation prize. She's kind of broken up about this and offered her the Greek ambassadorship. Shout out. Because apparently it was a, sorry, my son broke up with you, but you also, you've been a loyal soldier. How about you just live in Mykonos or something?

34:08 That seems like a pretty great trade-off for her.

34:11 I mean, truly.

34:13 Goddamn.

34:13 Truly.

34:14 But yeah, so she made very little news after like the appointment to her ambassadorship sort of was public. But it turns out during that confirmation hearing, a lot was going on. For starters, she was in Huge credit card debt with American Express.

34:29 Huge.

34:30 And begged a donor and MAGA ally friend to bail her out. These are from like signal texts that the Wall Street Journal got their hands on. Quote, you could just send it here. This is Gilfoyle talking to like a donor. Herself.

34:44 She doesn't get people doing her dirt for her.

34:47 Herself.

34:47 Herself typing with her own Gilfoyle fingers.

34:51 Yep. Her Gilfingies. Yeah. She said, you could just send it here. It won't show up anywhere if you wire money to American Express. That's all that will show. This is on July 3rd to a man named Eric Dieters.

35:02 Please.

35:02 And I have you down as one of my special guests for my hearing in D.C. on Wednesday. I can get you in for a meeting on the matter we discussed. please get back to me ASAP. Goes on. No, no response.

35:14 She thinks she's smooth with it, but also she's like, and it won't even show up in a written message.

35:20 That's all that will show. And that's how we can do our crime. Apparently there was a thing where he was talking about this guy, Eric Jeter's was talking about his wife being able to see stuff. And I think that was her solution. It was like, it's fine. It's not even look like you gave me money. It's like, do it. Just pay the bill directly to American Express.

35:35 That'll help. Uh, then, Just again, she's still hitting him up. Quote, honey, please, I need you to get this done for me today. Yeah, I'm going to say his wife isn't going to love that.

35:46 Yeah, no, I mean, she's literally doing her best OnlyFans chat activity. You know what I mean? This is straight up like an OnlyFans girl chat activity.

35:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:55 Hey, hey, just send me this money today. No one will ever know.

35:58 Don't know if you saw my wish list. I love you, honey.

36:00 So handsome.

36:01 Did you check out my Amazon wish list? Can you get me some of those things?

36:03 Yeah, just send me something. I've got pictures of feet right here. I've got these feet right here.

36:07 I can send them to you.

36:08 I want to send them to you, but I just can't until that payment goes through.

36:12 I have to eat. Apparently, Dieters also claimed that while this was all going on, Guilfoyle kept being like, I'm going to be your person inside the administration. Quote, I will be your Trump ride or die forever and ever. Like the use of ride just to get his mind in the right place. Also turns out, listen, she never got that money. But this is where it gets. This is where it gets nice and sloppy. Eric Dieters. You're like, have we heard that name? We talked about him about a month ago. He's the guy from Kentucky who. who had that failed America Fest, where Kimberly Guilfoyle was one of the speakers, along with Kid Rock and Dog the Bounty Hunter. Dog the. Dog the. His lower third was Bounty Hunter.

37:01 I'm friendly with him, so I actually just call him Dog the.

37:05 And he was the one we were talking about at the time. He's like, he didn't sell any tickets. He had to cancel it and accused all his friends of being poor. and not giving him any fucking money.

37:13 He has like real Tim Robinson character energy where he just like, he does go, takes a big swing and then just starts confessing.

37:20 Immediately to being like, I fucked up so bad.

37:23 I don't know what to do.

37:25 I should have lied. Fuck. So it's that, it's that Eric Dieters. Okay. And he was willing to help because Kim Guilfoyle promised him special treatment from the administration to deal with a tax issue. Although he contends it was for something completely different, which we'll get into. Um, So he's also not a really smart guy. He's not good at crime. He's not good at this. Terrible.

37:49 He's not good at this whole quid pro quo thing that Washington runs on. And like, it's just the thing you have to understand.

37:56 All right.

37:56 Going into this, Eric, the thing you got to understand is it's an unspoken thing.

38:02 Quid pro quo.

38:03 And he's like, you lost me at quid. I don't know what that means.

38:07 I need you to spell pro. Is it P-R?

38:12 Wait, oh, so you mean like... Let me see if I got this right, Kim. So if I give you this 100K, then that means you'll help me evade some tax charges? Let's not write that. God damn it. Damn. So these are some of the messages that we also found between Eric Dieters and Kimberly Guilfoyle because he's so bad at keeping it low. Quote, Eric, I really wish you would stop papering all these things. It's really dangerous and you could simply just call me on signal. Then she was saying, apparently.

38:43 To which he presumably responded, okay, I'll call you on signal to describe description of specific crime.

38:49 By tax evasion. He also CC'd up one of her producers from her podcast about this deal. And then she goes on, quote, it's unbelievable when we have a private arrangement with you that you would now CC a producer talking about money. Do not say we have any arrangement. What a nightmare. You'll literally cost me my ambassadorship. Stop writing.

39:13 But then she's writing this. She's writing, too.

39:16 I was going to say, I was like, hey, Kim, why don't you call his ass on signal, you dumb bitch? And be like, bro, you've got to be quiet.

39:23 You've got to follow your own advice. And so that was kind of the fallout. at ben marco rubio as secretary of state was recently asked like hey uh this you this people under the state department that's how y'all rock and he's like i just kind of like tried to pass just shrug it off but you'll never guess who is on tv right now getting his side of the story out. Messy ass Eric Dieters. This this dude first went on the bulwark, which is like a conservative, like sort of never Trumper outlet to get his version of events out. And I just want to play this like he's we're going to hear multiple times this guy talk about what's going on and how basically he was wronged, because what we've also found out was He's the one

40:07 that leaked the story because the people in the Trump administration were ghosting him about this arrangement. So this is one of his first appearances to the Bulwarks podcast where he's just straight out being like, yeah, I mean, this is what it was supposed to happen. As if like he's going to the Better Business Bureau or something about like some kind of bunk transaction. But here's Eric Dieters in his own words.

40:32 I approached Kimberly Guilfoyle about helping me draw attention to, to these Durante victims, and I told her when the case settled, I'd give her a million bucks, but she's got to help me.

40:43 Well, she didn't do squat.

40:44 And then right before her confirmation hearing, she asked me for $ 100, 000 to pay off her American Express. And I was kind of taken aback about that.

40:55 She's so pushy. I mean, Kimberly Guilfoyle is wicked.

40:58 Wow.

40:59 Guilfoyle looks like a toad. He's talking about this. He looks like a toe. Yeah. He's talking. He looks like one of those like weird masks that people wear to look like a bald white guy. When you're like, dude, just put this whole latex hood on and you're going to look like a nondescript, vague, bald white man. That's kind of what his actual skin looks like. But he keeps referencing this Dr. Durrani thing because what was going on was that like He was representing some people that had some medical claims against a doctor who fled to Pakistan to get away from that. From his version is he fled to Pakistan with the help of the insurance company that was like giving insurance for his medical practice.

41:40 And he was trying to get him extradited from Pakistan so he could basically get money from this lawsuit. And shit went left because then he started threatening the insurance company, like death threats, according to their CEO. And he's like, no, no, no. They got this all wrong. That's not what was going on at all. So I'm also going to play this other clip. Then he went on fucking MSNBC, or not MSNBC, MSNOW, rather, to get his story out. So he was going everywhere to anyone that would listen to him. So why not go to Lib Central and also hopefully get your side of the story out? In this one, he really gets like fully just open mouth talking about it. He's like, yeah, yeah, it's all quid pro quo. A phrase that I just learned.

42:26 You believe that you were paying her and that's what you would get in response.

42:30 Well, I got to stress this, okay?

42:33 Medical Protective was their insurance company. And it was our allegation that Medical Protective helped get.

42:40 Durrani out of the country.

42:42 I wanted an investigation of Medical Protective's role in his flight, okay?

42:48 She ambushed me.

42:49 Out of the blue with this $ 200, 000 American Express offer.

42:55 And she offered me to be.

42:57 Her ride and die forever.

43:00 If I did this.

43:01 Riding back. I mean, I guess for them it is riding back. But I did not do it.

43:05 But the reason why I did not do it is I didn't have that money at the time.

43:11 He's basically like, yeah, man, I would have totally given the money for this. It's funny to be like, and I did not do that. And the reason why is because I was broke as hell. Otherwise, I would have done crimes. It's funny, too. I just want to play where he does literally say it was a quid pro quo.

43:31 By 3rd of 2025, Kimberly Guilfoyle wrote to you on Signal. I have been officially announced, announced to be the nominee to be the next ambassador to Greece, which she now is. Honey, please, I need you to get this done for me today with a prayer hand emoji. In your view, was this a quid pro quo?

43:50 Oh, it absolutely was a quid pro quo because up to that.

43:54 Point, he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't give a fuck. He's like, yeah, man, we had a deal. You're like, no, that's completely unethical and illegal what you're describing. It's not just like, Yeah, dude. Well, sure. Quid pro quo. That's exactly what it was. And I didn't get my pro quo. So I don't know what's going on. So I need a refund.

44:16 She just got me standing on quids.

44:18 Yeah, exactly. I need that quo. She's quitting when I'm when I'm quoting. So what are we doing?

44:24 This feels like it'd be a big deal if it was in like some less corrupt administration. Like, I don't know, the Nixon administration.

44:31 Right. Right.

44:32 Yeah.

44:33 He goes on to kind of looks like that Muppet, like the Eagle Muppet. Do you know what I mean?

44:38 Sam Eagle?

44:40 Yeah.

44:40 He's also just wearing a t-shirt.

44:42 Just a Henley.

44:43 Hey, same one he was wearing in the Bulwark appearance. He's doing press, baby. He goes on to basically then get so angry. He's like, she's a dang grifter. He's so outraged. He thinks that he has the moral high ground here for some reason, the way he's talking.

45:01 Okay, now, relative to your question, Kimberly Guilfoyle is a grifter. Kimberly Guilfoyle, I have no doubt, has done this to more than me. She's doing it right now in Greece. I know Corey Lewandowski did this stuff. I know Kristi Noem.

45:17 Did this stuff.

45:18 I have no personal knowledge of anybody else in the Trump administration being involved.

45:23 With this stuff.

45:24 But I have no doubts that Kimberly Guilfoyle and me, and I can't stress this enough.

45:30 Anyway, he goes on and on and on. Just ranting.

45:34 But like sometimes it's like you fucked with the wrong guy. You know, this guy's smart and he's he's capable and he's skilled. And like you fight. This is like you fucked with the wrong guy. He is a dumb, blunt instrument who is just going to.

45:47 Be like that. give me the money. Right, right, right. Yeah. He's like, he's doing his best.

45:54 Just be on news, trying to figure things out in real time.

45:58 Cause I, it also reeks of like a guy who's trying to get some kind of hush payment too. Oh yeah. Cause it sounds like he was really counting on suing this doctor to get a ton of money. And because he's gone, he was going as far as threatening the medical insurance company that was covering or that who he, like the doctor was being covered by. To try and get this guy to some kind of trial so he could get the money off the people he was representing.

46:23 Then goes to Kimberly Guilfoyle. Then also when you hear about how that that America Fest went completely fucking ass up because it was just poorly planned and lack of money. I'm like, oh, this like we're watching one of these like sort of periphery MAGA sort of like nouveau riche figures completely flailing and now being like, all right, dude, I'm calling out fucking names, man. I need help.

46:44 Yeah, but she's a grifter.

46:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

46:47 She's a grifter.

46:49 She is a grifter. What are you doing? Because she didn't give me what I want. I've tried to grift my way out of Kentucky. Face down, ass up. That's the way I am corrupt. Come on, man. Follow the story here. Do you not understand? She's not following through. This is outrageous. But again, I think this also shows the mentality of these people, too, where he really thinks...

47:11 This is some shit to be talking about out loud because he also apparently also said like he was willing to offer Kimberly Guilfoyle a million dollars if he could get her or if she could get him on Tucker Carlson to talk about this case with this doctor.

47:26 I'm already my eyes are glazing over about this case with this doctor.

47:31 You're not getting anywhere with that, brother. Yeah, I'm just telling you, man, I. It's also very Tim Robinson-esque where he's like, if I just get this one idea to work, man, it's all going to work. It's like, dude, you got to let go. This guy doesn't even fucking live here. He's like, oh, damn it, man. We need you to buy all the wigs or it's no deal. Yeah, exactly.

47:51 These are Stanzo brands, man. Let's take a quick break.

47:54 We'll come right back and we will talk about Elizabeth Holmes and the new Nathan Fielder documentary. And we're back. Lydia, are you excited about this film? This Nathan Fielder, you can see everything?

48:17 You know what?

48:19 I'm not a big documentary person. I like to get fired up afterwards. So maybe after we talk about it, I will be fired up for it.

48:24 Have you seen the trailer at all for it?

48:26 I have not.

48:27 Oh, that's why. That's why. You've been busy.

48:30 Yeah, I've been busy. I've been in Dolly Parton land. I truly feel like I'm behind on the internet because my algorithm... thank Dolly, is still half Dolly. But yeah, I have been getting a lot of regular content.

48:41 Cram the last two months of the internet. I do.

48:45 The trailer is incredible if people haven't seen it.

48:48 I will watch it. I will take time on my own to make sure that I watch this.

48:53 Nathan Fielder makes great kind of docu-ish content, but it involves him kind of manipulating people and putting the audience in a weird position and And then it's him versus this grifter, Elizabeth Holmes. And so the reviews say it's breaking new ground in the form of documentary. They say it's very funny, very weird. She has apparently Nathaniel. Fielder recently revealed that Elizabeth Holmes hasn't actually seen the movie, which is weird because she's been actively promoting it on Twitter just because old habits die hard in terms of hyping things before all the evidence is in. That's basically her whole deal.

49:37 But she... So I don't know.

49:41 She, I think she thinks is going to be different than it actually is.

49:45 Yeah.

49:46 Uh, Catherine asked, she has Twitter in jail. It does seem to be that she, she has Twitter in jail.

49:53 Well, there's definitely like computer terminals you could access.

49:56 Yeah.

49:56 And also her husband too.

49:57 Yeah.

49:58 I'm like, You can get meta glasses in jail.

50:02 You can get anything you want in jail. It's not as hard as you think it is.

50:07 But yeah, I think a lot of it was her husband also by proxy tweeting on her behalf, I think is what one of the posts said.

50:13 They also her husband has not talked to Fielder in a while because he apparently, quote, started trying to exert a level of control over the process that made it very hard to engage with him. And it was uncomfortable for us and also A24 and everyone. So like one of the big questions that you have after watching the trailer and just like hearing about the premises, what were they thinking? Why would Elizabeth Holmes and her husband make a documentary with Nathan Fielder, who people don't usually come out of his documentaries like looking good?

50:47 Apparently it was their idea.

50:51 So Holmes and Evans wanted a film that would give Holmes good PR. And they went to Fielder and Lance Oppenheim. And it sounds like they just didn't research either of them. The husband watched the first few minutes of Oppenheim's 2020 film, Some Kind of Heaven, which is about a retirement home. And Holmes had merely seen a YouTube clip from Nathan for you.

51:15 That's wild.

51:18 She saw Dumb Starbucks or something? She saw Dumb Starbucks. Yeah, I don't know. Sure. Who cares? Love the ego on these people, man.

51:26 Right, like, you're just like, is she thinking that, like, this guy's so, like, obviously all of his stuff, like you said, it's very uncomfortable, right? Like, you walk into this world and it's very uncomfortable and it's very hard to watch, but then it's also funny because you're just in amazement that he's able to pull off some of the shit he's able to pull off.

51:44 Right.

51:44 So are they doing this because they think it's going to make her look so absurd? Like, I'm really trying to wrap my head around, like, why you would want this person to Who obviously has no dedication to any subject other than himself. Right. In a good way.

51:58 It's probably on some level, right? You go, these people don't make real documentaries. They do like kind of fun, weird stuff. Like, and we can probably, we can probably guide it on some level. Like they maybe simply underrated them.

52:12 Because he like plays with the truth in weird ways. And so does she. Maybe there was like an attraction there where she was just like, yeah, he seems like he's probably a sociopath.

52:23 Like that, that works for me.

52:25 That's kind of, Oh, like she recognized game devil knows their own kind of thing.

52:30 Yeah. So I, it's, it is like, she's very hard to read.

52:33 Right.

52:34 Because like she, people are like, her voice is so ridiculous. Like she lowered her voice in this way. That's like obvious and like sounds ridiculous. And yet, like, it fooled everybody in Silicon Valley to the tune of, like, billions of dollars. So it's like, I don't know, man. Like, seems like it worked. And there seems to be, I don't know, a weird method to their madness. So what she appears to be trying here, so she's promoting this documentary like it's good about her. Then she has, like, a field team who are promoting, it's a group called Free Elizabeth Holmes. which has been showing up to the You Can See Everything screenings with flyers and T-shirts. And not only do they just believe, like, Elizabeth Holmes has

53:21 served enough time, we should free her. The head of the group claims that he rebuilt Theranos technology from the ground up using trial exhibits and the patents, and the blood testing machine's tech is airtight technology.

53:36 Oh, okay.

53:37 They just don't admit wrongdoing in any of this. They're like, no, everybody's wrong. We actually did create the miracle technology.

53:46 Does this guy who recreated it, is he like a expert tech guy? What's his background in all of this?

53:55 No, it doesn't seem like it, Miles. I think he describes himself as a, oh yeah, he is a biochemist. Oh, sorry, a self-taught biochemist. The best kind of biochemist that you can have.

54:08 That's my favorite.

54:09 I don't know if you guys know this about me, but I am a self-taught radiologist.

54:17 Oh. Right. Of the professions that you don't want to hear self-taught. I'm sorry. You have an x-ray machine? Yeah, it's decommissioned.

54:28 Well, it's actually just my eyes. I just look at you.

54:31 I'm a self-taught airline pilot. I've seen the Denzel Washington movie, Flight.

54:37 Yeah, so I know how to do cocaine and fly an airplane upside down. Wow.

54:42 Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

54:45 This is also coinciding with her attempt to cozy up to Trump following the news that she's being moved out of federal prison and into a Texas halfway house next summer. She shared a Trump post online with the caption, we are winning. So she, again, just strange bed felt where she's like Nathan Fielder on one side and Donald Trump on the other side.

55:06 She's just on signal like, listen, honey, I need you to do this for me today. Right.

55:09 Yeah.

55:10 Yeah, right.

55:11 Sending messages to the Trump administration. I need that payment in my snap bar today. I need you to get me in the halfway point. Bare hands, bare hands, bare hands emoji.

55:18 Yeah.

55:19 The group behind the Free Elizabeth Holmes movement is similarly Trumpy, included a super intelligence graphic for no reason, along with the White House logo, along with a bunch of AI generated evidence proving that Theranos did no wrong.

55:35 Wow.

55:36 I mean, like, she's, I guess, like, what's her motivation, right? I guess on one part, she's like, okay, I can clear my name with this and then maybe control the conversation if necessary. I'm the one who's even ordering the documentary. Right. Yeah. Then what? They think the damage has been done, Elizabeth, my sweet Elizabeth.

55:57 I think it might have been done. She admits in the movie that she wants to launch a new and improved Theranos. So I think that's essentially what... Because that is the vibe of the trailer where he's just looking at her. He's like, you can't actually believe what you're saying.

56:11 Right, right, right. You can't actually believe that you... Because she's like, why would I deceive you? I have nothing... I have nothing to hide.

56:19 And it's like, you're on record a grifter who we all know is a grifter. Like, how does your brain work? Essentially seems to be the main question here.

56:31 She's basically trying to Nathan Fielder Nathan Fielder.

56:34 Could be. Like, that's the thing that's so interesting about her. That's what it feels like. She does it with such a straight face that you're like, does she believe this, though?

56:42 Yes.

56:42 Am I forced to believe it, too?

56:45 Right.

56:46 That's why I think it's what's so intriguing about the documentary, especially when you see the trailer, when you're like, oh, this is like immovable object versus unstoppable force right now. But like they're coming from completely different ends of the spectrum. And you're like, what the fuck happens? Because it's for the, And the thing that I think that's really jarring for me as somebody who's seen like pretty much all the stuff Nathan Fielder's made is that he genuinely looks confused and freaked out at certain points. And that's where I'm like, God, bro, if she got you on your fucking heels, like what the fuck? What is really going on?

57:19 What is she up to?

57:21 And I get like, it must be terrifying when they're like, they're reaching out to us to make this documentary and want us to live with her as we make this. right before she goes to prison. Like what the fuck is sure. Let's see.

57:35 Yeah.

57:35 So maybe she just didn't do her homework. Maybe she did all, maybe it's going to be at the end. It's like, Oh, she knew everything.

57:43 She, but then what, but how does she benefit from like doing some kind of like Andy Kaufman esque, like performance art piece, you know, it's like, ha ha.

57:53 From the consequence review of, by Liz Shannon Miller, which is a 100 out of 100 on Metacritic. It says, it asks everyone involved to look at themselves and face the difference between perception and reality.

58:08 Oh, shit.

58:08 Yeah.

58:09 Stupifying and gloriously destabilizing hall of psychological mirrors. This is what the Guardian called it.

58:16 Jesus Christ. That's a sentence. Damn. And I mean, it makes sense, like, given the confidence she needed to get Theranos going. It's just like, oh, naturally, this is an extension of your whole, how you go through life. I think I'm going to walk away from this documentary being like, I'm a fan, guys. Sorry. I'm really cool. Yo, free Liz, man.

58:38 I mean, she's living her passion, cringy as it is. She's pushing through. She is like, no, this is what I'm doing.

58:44 She's like, I'm going to make it happen. Watch me do the new Theranos. Exactly.

58:49 Lydia Popovich, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist.

58:53 Thank you for having me. I love to be here.

58:55 Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

58:57 You can follow me on social medias at Hater Tuesday. You'll see all my comedy dates, all my Dolly Parton updates, pictures of my dogs, really cool stuff. Then you can find my websites. Lydia Popovich dot com and that has all of my tour dates all of my events and things and such so please do come and follow me please do come and see me at a live show and you know see me in the streets.

59:23 Hell yeah see me in the streets is there a work of media that you've been enjoying you.

59:27 Know what there has been I did email it to you guys there. I've been really loving all of the like Dolly Parton mashups and just sort of like unexpected genres of people discovering Dolly Parton for the first time or leaning in hard. But there's a woman. She is from Atlanta. Her name is Nell Grant. She's an incredible rapper.

59:48 And she's also a producer. And she wrote a little Dolly Parton 9 to 5 rap that is over this 9 to 5 beat that is just phenomenal. I just love it.

1:00:00 Shout out to Dolly, I beg your pardon.

1:00:01 Imagine working 9 to 5 and barely having a quarter.

1:00:04 Imagine working 9 to 5 and people just getting shorter.

1:00:06 Imagine working 9 to 5 until you're here to the slaughter.

1:00:09 Being able to spit Dolly Parton bars is crazy. Pretty impressive. Pretty hard. Yeah.

1:00:14 And like the beat is really good. Like I've heard some sloppy mashups. I've heard some good mashups, but like that is a nice refreak to the beat that I appreciated. And her flow is right in my pocket of stuff that I enjoy. And yeah, she's a lovely gal and she's very good. So follow her, listen to her music, support her. She's got bars.

1:00:34 Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Find me everywhere at Miles of Grey. You fuck with 90 Day Fiancé, so you need to listen to 420 Day Fiancé, where we are covering the new season of 90 Day The Other Way. Brand new cast. And also, if you like soccer... Check out Ain't It Footy with me, Jamel Johnson, and Chris Martin dropping every week. So please subscribe and listen to that new show I got going. A work of media I like is just because it's spooky season, I'm like, I'm addressing some of my media blind spots that I've had.

1:01:06 The biggest one being Twilight. Never seen it. Never bothered to see it. Her Majesty was like, you never seen Twilight? I go, what the? In 2008, I was dealing with the fucking economy and trying to get a job right out of college. I was not on some Twilight shit. Have that shit on your shoulders like Atlas. Entire economy.

1:01:23 I just saw the first one. That shit is so bad, it's good.

1:01:27 I gotta say.

1:01:28 I'm like, oh, shit.

1:01:29 It's one of my favorite things to watch when I'm in a hotel and it comes on. Anytime you're traveling and you turn on the hotel TV, one of the twilight lights will be on. And it will enrapture me.

1:01:39 It's so wild. This motherfucker is 108 years old dating a 17-year-old. And we're not talking about that either. But okay, that's fine. You might just need to do... Edward from Twilight as an icon. But then also Taylor Lautner's busted ass wigs, bro. I saw this and I'm like, what the fuck? They couldn't afford a fucking wig for Taylor Lautner?

1:01:58 He looked like shit. Wait till you see what the baby looks like that they make.

1:02:02 Which one is that? The third one? Is that the third one? That's the third one. I just started New Moon last night.

1:02:09 That shit will haunt your dreams. That's the scariest baby I've ever seen.

1:02:12 In my whole life.

1:02:13 Oh, my God.

1:02:14 Oh, my God.

1:02:15 That one got me. I had to keep her. I couldn't get past the scene where she was born. I was like, I can't. This is too great. I got to take her back. I got to take her back.

1:02:22 I will say one of the most iconic piggyback rides I've ever seen in my life in that first one. She took her straight up the mountain. Just went.

1:02:29 Victor wrote in the chat, this is the skin of a killer, Bella. Your diamond skin? You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. Blue Sky Jack OB, the number one Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore O'Brien. I've talked a lot about the work of Pablo Torre. This is actually kind of homework for everyone because he just announced, he wrote on Twitter, I've been looking for the right person to discuss Tim Tebow circumcising children in the Philippines while on spring break in 2008. Thank you to John Wilson of How To with John Wilson and now the History of Concrete for being that person.

1:03:05 Link off to it. So that's what I'm going to be listening to over the weekend. Wow. He's been going, like, he was revealed some other shit about Tim Tebow's weird charities and shit, I feel like, a couple weeks ago.

1:03:14 Yeah.

1:03:14 Anyways.

1:03:15 You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?

1:03:33 Yeah, this is from Heather, H-E-T-H-E-R, and Ear Slime from like a new album called Return of Ear Slime. This track is called D-Soul, D-E-S-O-L-E. And it's got like this sort of, you know, new age, but feeling retro-y. You got that like kind of tape pop on it, but it's got a little bit of funkiness to it. It's just a nice sort of texture to listen to. And hopefully if you have fall weather, I don't know, it's still hot as shit here, but I'm going to listen to this music to pretend fall is coming. So this is Desol, D-E-S-O-L by Heather and Earslime.

1:04:06 All right.

1:04:07 We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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1:04:16 That is going to do it for us this week.

1:04:19 We are back on Monday to tell you what is trending and also with our next spooky icon.

1:04:28 Icon. It's a super fun one. So tune in for that. Have a great weekend. Bye-bye.

1:04:34 Bye.

1:04:35 Bye.

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