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0:05 It's a big, it's been a thing. There's like a whole new wave of new Catholics.

0:08 I guess that's what I was telling Jack, like JD Vance is part of this whole thing where it's like Catholics kind of coming.

0:13 I hope that's not, I can't imagine the college students are being swayed by JD Vance.

0:17 No, no, no.

0:17 But I'm saying just generally there's like this movement of people trying to.

0:23 Whatever, man.

0:23 I went to Catholic high school. That was enough of a preview for me to be.

0:27 Like, that'll do. That'll do, donkey. That's been plenty. That'll do, pig.

0:31 I was going to say, it's pig.

0:33 That'll do, donkey. That'll do, donkey. Combining a couple of your faves. Yeah. You like Babe, right?

0:40 I love Babe.

0:41 You love Babe. La, la, la, la. That's when Babe says that.

0:45 Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

0:46 That was always a real stim for me, for Babe was the way he really la-la-la-la-ed it. Who's the voice of Babe?

0:55 Two different actors, both played characters in Rugrats.

1:01 Oh, so not like... Well, sorry, in the first movie... No, no, no, that's Simba.

1:08 I think it's adult women. Doing the voice of a young boy.

1:12 Of Babe?

1:13 Yeah, I think so.

1:15 They Barn Simpson'd it? I think, yeah.

1:17 And then it's, I think, a different voice actor from between.

1:21 Oh, it's Christine Kavanaugh.

1:24 Yes.

1:25 Who did that. Who's also, you know, Dexter's laboratory.

1:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:29 Rugrats. She's a fucking goat. Yeah. Christine Kavanaugh, whose face I don't recognize. No. Killing it, though. Dexter fucking doing Dexter and Chucky from Rugrats. That's crazy.

1:43 Because the one who does Tommy Pickles from Rugrats is a homegirl who is also like one of my favorite voice actors, but also was Dottie in Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

1:54 She might have been the voice actor of Babe in Babe Pig in the City.

1:58 Elizabeth Daly. That's Elizabeth Daly. Okay. The one who was like, come on, P.W. I'm a loner, Dottie. Or rebel. That's pretty good. Pretty good Chucky. That was Pee Wee Herman. Fuck. I thought that was Chucky from Rugrats. No, Chucky is more like... I don't know, Tommy. Chucky, post head injury. Dude, I'm a mess without a computer right now.

2:25 I know.

2:25 I don't know what I'm going to... I'm just going to do a bunch of fucking voices. Swiveling in that chair like... I'm like looking off camera like, what's up, guys? You guys cool? Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 459, episode 4 of Dirt Aileys, I guess!

2:45 Yeah!

2:47 This is a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a non-news history version of the Daily Zeitgeist that drops each Monday morning called The Iconograph, where we do a deep dive into the Zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon. And we just started spooky season with Dracula. But we learned a lot.

3:09 Yeah.

3:09 Let's just say that. We learned a lot. I mean, we learned a lot. We're not going to spend another 20 minutes talking about how he.

3:14 No, no, no.

3:14 But we did learn. We learned. We learned a lot. We learned. Did you know that Dracula, when he first meets the Keanu Reeves character, the first thing he asks him is, he invites him to go have a toilet. He's like, you must need to go have a toilet. Is this in the.

3:30 Book or in the movie that Keanu Reeves is in?

3:32 In the book.

3:32 Oh, okay.

3:33 I thought you were talking. In Brom Stoker's. Okay. Brom Stoker. What do you think about that? That's funny, right? That's funny, right?

3:40 Pretty funny.

3:41 All right, I guess we shouldn't have brought it up. It's Thursday, October 8th.

3:45 2026 yes it is world octopus day it's national salmon day it's national harbor master appreciation day national fluffernutter day uh also international newspaper carrier day international birth registration day uh registration some other stuff.

4:06 A lot of nautical Salmon, octopus, harbor master.

4:11 My three favorite seafoods. Octopus, salmon, and harbor master. And harbor master. A braised harbor master. When he's gone too far. Yeah. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Drink my cherry wine. Warm drink of piss, such a sweet surprise. Tastes so good, Dr. Oz says, ah, sweet cherry pie. That one courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi, man. In reference to the fact that Dr. Oz...

4:42 recently said that whenever you go through medical school, you have to drink urine. You have to be taught how to test people's urine by drinking it. Okay. That's not true.

4:52 That's not true.

4:53 That's not true, but it's a thing that I guess somebody tricked him into doing in medical school. And he did say that the urine of diabetic people tastes like cherry wine. Mm-hmm. He did say it like that anyway. Cherry wine.

5:07 It's sweet?

5:08 Sweet, yeah. So they're They're your cherry wine. What the fuck is drinking that? I don't know, man. Straight to fucking.

5:16 Oh, some of us love it.

5:20 Cherry wine. Where do you even get the taste of that? I was reading her cheer wine. It's a soda. Love that. Have you had cheer wine? That regional soda? Yeah, I think so. Is it red? I believe it's red. Yep. Yeah. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray.

5:38 My respect for ancient Greece knows no limits. That's why butter miles in the sky. I can get twice as high. I take a look at an ancient book, a reading rainbow.

5:50 Wow.

5:52 I can Greek everywhere. Homer's prose and Plato knows a reading rainbow. Shout out Arch Cam Cam for that one. Yeah. I dropped Ares, the God of War, the Oracle of Delphi. Yeah. Casually.

6:08 Real.

6:09 Yeah. Deep cut Oracle of Delphi. Those are deep cuts. I feel like those are kind of like Ares God of what? Okay. You mean Kratos? My son is actually being Ares for Halloween. How do you do that? Figuring it out.

6:22 Yeah.

6:22 Got a sphere.

6:24 Okay.

6:24 That's what we got so far. You should, like, label it Raytheon or something. North of Grumman.

6:29 Deep, man.

6:29 Yeah, just to kind of be like, what are these? I'm the god of war, dude. Yeah, but we're all doing ancient Greece. I'm going to be... Fuck, another deep cut. Poseidon? Oh. Ever heard of him? Are you going to find another ill-fitting Poseidon outfit? Yeah, as long as it's shown off camel toe. Somehow. They wore robes. What is your robe?

6:54 What the fuck is it? It looks like bike shorts. uh thrilled to be joined in our third seat miles by very talented writer stand-up comedian co-host of the bechdel cast one of the great film podcasts uh which starts its national 10-year anniversary tour next week that's so true yeah it's your tickets yeah you please time is running out go.

7:18 To more and new york especially buy these.

7:21 Damn tickets tickets new york I know. New York City. We're good in New York.

7:27 It's going on.

7:29 Come on, Balmer. Come on, Baltimore. Come on. Get out there. Buy your tickets or else they're going to arrest Caitlin and Jamie for not having enough followers. Yes. As we'll see in this AI slot piece later on. That happens to people. They also happen to have a master's degree in film and the most anagrammable name in the English language.

7:47 Yes.

7:48 So, if you've been given their name in a jumble of out-of-order Scrabble tiles, you may know them as Lauren D. Titanic, Nine-Tit Dracula, but to us, they will always be Latin Dancer... Nope. Caitlyn Dracula.

8:02 Hello.

8:04 Dracula.

8:05 We were just talking about.

8:06 Nine-Tit Dracula. How did we not bring up nine tit Dracula in our Dracula? We fucked up. I'll tell you that.

8:12 And how did you not have me as the guest?

8:14 I know. I know.

8:15 I know.

8:15 Just talk about that. Is Dracula one of your favorites? The Keanu Reeves one. Yeah. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah.

8:21 The movie rocks.

8:23 Okay. The movie is very bloody. Bloody.

8:26 Yeah.

8:28 Oh, sorry. Are you okay? Oh, accent work. Yes, yes, yes. Very locked in. Humor joke, I suppose. I see. I see. Very successful one. That's how you can.

8:41 Well, that sounds like blah. Like, oh, it's blah, whatever.

8:44 Oh, yeah. Like blahdy blah. Yeah. That's how like Dracula is like kind of, you know, sort of pass something. He's like, it's kind of blah. Yeah. he's over that. That's like blood of somebody that tastes like shit is blood.

8:58 Yeah.

8:58 There you go.

8:59 Yeah.

8:59 Blah, blah, Dracula. How did you like the social reckoning? This follow-up film fell flat, in my opinion. Yeah. I am disappointed that that movie apparently sucks. I wonder if he was not surprised, but I am disappointed.

9:17 Do people not like him?

9:18 People don't take him seriously. I think that's one thing. I certainly don't take Jeremy Strong seriously.

9:24 No.

9:24 So when I see that, I go, this looks kind of funny, Mr. Mark Zuckerberg. But I don't know. I could have seen it working. But yeah. Anyways.

9:32 I figured people like Succession.

9:33 So. Yeah.

9:34 They'd like him.

9:35 I don't know. But like even his character in that is like. He's like a goofball idiot. You're a fucking joke.

9:40 Yeah.

9:40 You're never like. I want to be him. True. Or not serious people.

9:44 He's also in a movie called Serenity. Which I suggest to everyone. Watch it. Don't look up anything about it. Not the. Serenity that's affiliated with That show that.

9:57 Firefly. Yeah, right.

9:59 Not that one.

10:00 A different one.

10:01 That Matthew McConaughey and Anne Hathaway are in.

10:04 Oh, the one that like... I've seen a trailer and they're like on a boat or something.

10:07 Yeah.

10:08 I don't know. What's that? What are you doing? Why are you being coy? I don't want you to know anything about it. Got it, got it, got it.

10:16 And then watch it.

10:18 And Jeremy Strong is in it?

10:18 And Jeremy Strong is in it.

10:19 Okay. Okay.

10:21 Damn.

10:22 I like a cryptic film recommendation. Especially when you went, I don't know. Were they on a boat? They're going to get fucking hacked to death or some shit.

10:31 My favorite movies are on boats. Titanic, Serenity, End of List.

10:36 What was the other one with all the rich people on the boat that came out a few years ago?

10:39 Triangle of Sadness.

10:40 Triangle of Sadness! Okay, points go to Jack. Do better, Durante.

10:47 Ask us another one.

10:48 Don't worry, there'll be a lightning round later. What's the name of movie? That would be a good podcast game. What's that one with the rich people? Uh-huh. Richie Rich. Yeah, yeah. There it is. Swish. With the dad from Gilmore Girls. Caleb, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners about.

11:11 A couple of things we're talking about and there's a new genre of AI slop for boomers that is just like terrifying. So, so good, man. Yeah. This one guy got absolutely rocked. Dude, I don't want to know what happened to him on the battlefield based on how his body was laid to rest in a casket. He is at a right angle. Yeah, we'll comb through the newest thing.

11:32 I don't know if you, are your parents in the boomer slot? No, but I, well. We'll talk about it. Yeah, my dad did show me one with all the former presidents singing a. Singing an acapella song about how trump is an idiot oh it'd be funny if it's for the theme song of carmen san diego yeah yeah just completely yeah rock up out of the old look at this i mean that's pretty good in the world is go obama carmen san diego So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about this new ad from Steve Hilton that just dropped. That's like weird and horny and completely uncalled for. Steve Hilton is the California gubernatorial candidate from the Republican Party.

12:14 I mean, it's cool because you get to see what happens when a billionaire has zero fucks to give and a fuck ton of money in a race.

12:20 Like they're like, what the fuck I'm going to do. I'm not going to win. I know what'll get them. Let's try something. Try anything. I'll seduce them. Yeah. Uh, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about where we're at between, uh, with the Nathan Fielder movie coming up. So the social network apparently, or the social reckoning apparently sucks, but we still have, you can see everything coming up and there's like Elizabeth Holmes has been doing like weird things on social media where she's like, I'm, uh, I'm pissed. I'm like, well, is it about the movie? But then she's promoting it like it's a flattering movie. So we're going to find out about where that all is. And then we will look at just a retrospective. We're at the end of

12:59 the career of one of my favorite actors because he has purchased all movie studios. And so he's probably not going to be acting as much because he can be so busy. David Ellison. So we just wanted to take a look at some of his acting work.

13:11 Yeah.

13:11 Because... It's impressive. Have you seen?

13:14 I have not seen any of it.

13:15 We're actively being robbed. Oh, boy. What was he in? In so many ways. Flyboys. Hole in One. With Jimmy Franco. Oh. Hole in One, which I think you're going to get it after this log line. There's an Asian guy who talks like a black guy. American Pie Plays Golf. American Pie Plays Golf? Is that like American Pie Meats? Yeah, exactly.

13:43 But they just said, American Pie Play Golf. Oh, well, here's my money. Well, well, well. We'll take a quick look at his career as an actor. This is the billionaire son of Larry Ellison, who has just purchased all the Warner Brothers now. I think he owns us probably. We'll probably be fired after this episode. No, no, not yet.

14:03 Not yet. We've still got time. All of that, plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guest. You may know this about us. We like to ask, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

14:14 I always forget the revealing about who you are part.

14:19 And by forgetting it, you're actually letting us in.

14:22 Yeah.

14:22 Because it's kind of an unguarded.

14:24 Because I just go to my search history and I'm like, what did I look up? Because I searched.

14:29 No.

14:29 Kevorkian.

14:31 Kevorkian.

14:32 Cool.

14:37 Oh, yeah.

14:38 I still don't know who that is, except for like, you know, some loser.

14:42 Yeah. Yeah.

14:43 But I tried to figure it out. And and then I was like, I don't actually care. I was like, hubba hubba.

14:52 He's he's terrible. Yeah.

14:54 Yeah.

14:55 That guy. He's only... Everything I keep reading, like, gets worse. Like, he's, like, sexual assault. Like, trial. He's, like, got going on people. He's, like, doing... He's in L.A. right now. Ooh. Or was last week. Let's go get him. Well, no, like, he's got this group of these looks-maxing fucking freaks. who are now like have been unleashed in LA to do their like, like live streaming content where they just go pull up on like women who don't want to be fucking bothered.

15:21 And like, what's up? You know, have you seen this clip? There's one where one of his accolades is at the Grove and he fucking freaks out on this woman because she's not interested in talking to him. And it gets fucking really dark and like dangerous. Cause he's like, whatever, you know, I'm just fucking pissed. Like a fucking Chad comes up to you and is like telling you like, what's up.

15:39 And you're not interested. And he's like, I'm sorry. That sounds pretty appealing. Yeah, like he goes up. He's like, I'm sorry. I'm not mad at you. And she's like, dude, what the fuck?

15:47 Who are you?

15:48 And he's like, what the fuck?

15:50 Yeah, like it's fucking terrifying that like this is now like a form of content.

15:55 Even though some of these people are just like lolcows that people watch. to be like, Oh my God, what a freak.

16:00 Nonetheless, there are people like this guy clearly felt empowered enough and popping enough to be like, I'm a clavicular.

16:06 I actually just came out from Miami. I'm here to fucking bother you with nonsense words.

16:11 And the people put together like clips of him trying to pull up on like doing his pickup lines every time he's just saying some weird shit that is so.

16:20 Off-putting and then he's like i don't know what the fuck's going on yeah so anyway yeah okay it's.

16:25 Not working yeah cool video of him also i know too much.

16:29 About i should have just asked you another.

16:32 Video where he's like telling this guy like to like you're like you got to be pumping your penis dude like he's like with some dude he's like yeah like i'm actually pretty chill like with like where i'm at but like.

16:41 Girth is, like, something, like, I could, like, I feel like I could work on.

16:44 Wait, pumping your penis as in, like, strength training it? Or, like, masturbating?

16:50 No, like, using a vacuum pump to expand it in a penis pump.

16:56 To get it plumpier. And Klavik is like, what do you got? Like five, like, what are we talking five inches?

17:02 And he's like, is that where like, if I put the tape all the way around and they're just talking about, and like Klavik is like, dude, you just got to be pumping, man.

17:08 Like tell your girl, like you got to go use the bathroom really quick. Just go on that pump really quick. And you come back out. For yourself, like for your own peace of mind.

17:16 Yeah.

17:16 So anyway, it's a bunch of, really sad, broken young men who are truly obsessed with all the wrong things.

17:24 Like, is my dick thick enough? Are my biceps big enough? Is my chat game strong? You didn't realize you, like, had come to the... Like, in a Ken Burns documentary, when they, like, have that one person who every time Garfield is mentioned, President Garfield, they're just like, to that guy? Yeah. That's Miles. Well, the thing about.

17:42 The thing you have.

17:43 To understand, there's actually... My lower third, Miles Gray, parenthetical, doesn't need to pump. Make sure that's in my lower third.

17:51 What?

17:51 We're going to put you as like a historian. No, no, no. Just say, I don't pump. I don't need to. I actually just know about them needing to. What is something you think is underrated?

18:02 Okay. I don't think this is underrated in general, but it's underrated for me. I underrated this, which is having a cat.

18:10 Because I have a cat now. Wow. Thank you. Meow. Meow. Yes, and I understand you. Yeah. That's what would have fixed the movie Cats. Oh, what? That cameo alone? Yeah. It's just a blonde cat with like kind of chill vibes. What led you to feline friendship?

18:32 So I love cats already. That was not the issue.

18:37 Off to a great start. This story is off to a great start.

18:41 But I avoided having one of my own because... Well, I would, like, make excuses, and I thought they were legitimate, but I was like, I travel a lot. Oh, sure, sure. I don't... Like, the anxiety of having something relying on me for survival... Yeah, yeah. Like, that gives me a lot of anxiety and all these things.

19:00 And then.

19:01 A friend of mine was like step fostering a cat and she's like, come and meet it. And I was like, slippery slope. And then I met it and I was like, well, I have to have this cat.

19:11 You're the parent that stepped up. Did you get the sense after that happened that they had you targeted as like? Oh, absolutely.

19:21 Yeah, yeah.

19:21 For sure. How do I unload this cat? Oh, yeah.

19:24 No, she and her wife have been trying to convince me.

19:29 What's up? Yeah, before they call you, they're like, I know someone who's cat curious. Yeah, very.

19:34 Yeah.

19:35 There was a study that also said recently, like, cities or areas that have a higher density of cats, the general happiness.

19:42 Score is a little bit higher. Duh. It's interesting. I didn't realize. Like, they were like, and this is proof positive. They're like, interesting correlation. for the nation.

19:52 Yeah.

19:52 Cause they take out all the birds. Birds are, there are too many damn birds. I don't know if it's that. No, it's definitely that.

20:00 Are you talking about, like, the happiness of the people?

20:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:03 In an environment where, like, there are more cats, like, there's something about happiness. That's just the only other cat study I know, which is that, like, in neighborhoods that have outdoor cats, like, there are fewer birds because they just get eaten. They just get eaten by the cats.

20:17 I mean, I guess I feel bad for the birds, but.

20:21 They'll be fine. They'll be fine. I mean, they're dead. they don't care they're dead they're dead they don't know what death is what is something you think is overrated so obviously context is important here but okay great.

20:35 Start great start i i love a preface uh um the concept of loyalty i think is overrated uh at least blind loyalty oh yeah yeah yeah which is maybe obvious but Yeah, just people being like, oh, you have to be loyal to my friend no matter what, even if he's a fucking, like, sex pest or whatever. Or just the idea of, like, blood is thicker than water.

21:02 You have to stand by your family no matter what. And it's like, well, what about how if your family are bad people?

21:09 So. And I pretend they're not.

21:12 Yeah.

21:12 I just go down with the ship. Just rephrase that and say, I'm down to be an accessory to murder. That's kind of where I'm at. That's how I look at it. I will be potentially caught up in something terrible because of my reluctance to disconnect from disengaged people.

21:27 Yeah.

21:27 Yeah.

21:28 Yeah.

21:29 So, yeah, obviously, like, be loyal to your friends who are good or your family who are good people. But, yeah, I just think that loyalty is always seen as a virtue no matter what, when it actually can be quite toxic.

21:45 How do you feel about it as the only governing principle of an entire presidential administration?

21:50 100% support. Yeah, that's good in that case.

21:54 Yeah. Yeah.

21:56 I mean, it's like, I was talking on like Monday just about like bro code and how just like it's, it's used as a, like a, a call to arms for men to protect patriarchy like because you're just going like it's bro code it's like well no it's not you're saying completely obfuscate and lie on behalf of another person and not actually be open with someone if some if you know something is happening that's what it is it's not there's no fucking code especially if it's like dude.

22:22 I fucking told you i was cheating in confidence bro right don't bring me into that shit right i remember too when i was younger i i People would be like, yo, dude, I was cheating. I got this thing on the side. I'm like, oh, that's crazy, bro. Then go hang out with him and his girlfriend and be like. You feel terrible? Yeah.

22:38 And then after, I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? And then you realize some of these things are not actual friendships.

22:43 Right.

22:44 I had a friend in college who was cheating on her boyfriend. And then sometimes her boyfriend would like, she would lie and tell him that she was hanging out with me when she was like, and then she would ask me to lie on her behalf. And I was like, I'm not going to do that. So don't put me in that position.

23:01 I remember one time I was like with a friend who like lived out of town, so I didn't see him much.

23:07 So like when I came in town, like, oh, me and my moms are going to go out. Like, is that cool? And she's like, yeah, you guys have your fun because we've known each other for so long. We go out. He met his side piece there. He's like, hey, man, good seeing you.

23:17 And I'm like, bro, what the.

23:18 Fuck is this? And then we go back. He's like, hey, bro, keep that low or whatever. And I'm like, bro, don't ever. And I told him, like, don't ever do this shit. Like this. This is already when I did it once when we were younger.

23:27 Right.

23:27 And I was like, bro, we can't be like you're you're a fucking adult. Don't do this.

23:30 When I went there, I'm like, don't ever put me in this position again. I will fucking tell straight up next time. And even then I should have fucking told Ben. But it took many moments of trying to find your own boundaries and morals as a person. And then, like, yeah, I look back and I'm like, what the fuck was that for?

23:44 And if blind loyalty hadn't been so ingrained in all of us, then maybe you would have spoke up sooner.

23:50 It's essentially like loyalty is the trait of... refusing to change your mind about someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

23:58 Even though the evidence is right there puking in your passenger seat.

24:02 Yeah, yeah. Being like, man, don't tell my wife. Yeah, sure, dude. Bro code. Yeah. Can bro code clean up my car? No, sorry. It's just, I don't have any money right now. I build my friend group based on, you know, alibis. You know, I view everybody as like, Potential alibi. Yeah, potential alibi.

24:23 That's really good of you.

24:25 Yeah. Got to have the whole clock covered for different types of alibis. Yeah, yeah. Like a 3 a.m. friend. I was with so-and-so. You know, they got stuff going on. I had to be there for it. My best friend works the night shift at the local gas station.

24:40 What?

24:40 That's so weird. Mm-hmm. Let's take a quick break. We're going to come back and take a look at some just top-notch grade A AI slap. Grade A AI slap. Terrifying. We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. We're back. And AI slap has taken over.

25:08 Yeah.

25:09 The world, our minds, our lives. Our parents' Facebook feeds. Especially. Yeah, they seem particularly... Why is that? Is it just because they are not very media savvy? Yeah, because they're all from the, that's neat generation. You know, like everything's been neat to them. And like, oh, wow, that's neat. Look at this video.

25:32 That's like, it's not really about interrogating if it's real or not. It's like you just, you're presented a thing and you go.

25:37 Wow, that's neat. That's happening. That's interesting. That's why we have an entire generation who just like watches Fox News and goes, oh, that's neat. So it's all immigrants. Oh, that's neat.

25:47 Don't need to do much more investigating there. But yeah, now I don't know how much you have dealt with older relatives who are into AI. I've had to regularly shame my mom, sometimes my dad.

25:59 When they'll be like, have you seen this thing? And it's not like a news thing, just some weird thing. It's like this movie theater's got water point. I'm like, that's fucking AI.

26:06 Yeah.

26:07 There's no fucking movie theater where a tidal wave is coming in and potentially drowning people in the audience. That's a video I see a lot.

26:14 But maybe there should be.

26:15 I know. Wait a second. Hang on. And people go, this 4DX theater is next level.

26:20 Right.

26:21 For Titanic?

26:22 That's what I'm saying.

26:23 Yeah, yeah.

26:24 But the shot on the screen would just be like a wave coming at the camera. There's no narrative sense. You're just like, this isn't a movie that I've ever seen. And like for my mom, especially she like if it's a.

26:33 Cat video, doesn't matter if it's AI. Look, it's like this cat's got a chef's hat on. The subtext of this conversation is Miles had to do this for me one time when I showed him all these videos of raccoons jumping. I think it was an audience. I think the listeners were like, check on father. No, it was a super producer cat.

26:51 Oh, yeah.

26:52 Super producer cat that was like. I think that those videos that you shouted out of... Such a kind way to tell you, too. Raccoons jumping on trampolines. I was like, did raccoons have discovered trampolines? All of a sudden, there's all these videos. Isn't that neat? Yeah, that's neat. So, got my ass. So, who am I to talk?

27:10 It's hard.

27:11 It's difficult. Yeah. They have a new... It's hard. It's very hard for some of us. They have a new fave that is just so strange. Kind of uncanny.

27:22 It's hard to really figure out. So Jezebel pointed this out in an article they just published about this like crying toddler video trend on AI. But not just like a baby had a boo-boo or something. No, they're talking like hyper eloquent toddlers who are expressing intense grief at like a funeral, an open casket funeral, open casket or open bed funeral. Because again, AI doesn't know what the fuck is going on where it's like kids crying over a, and it's typically a dead father who's in the military.

27:54 Yeah.

27:55 Um, so I think it's, I think let's, let's show the class. Uh, one of the first examples of the little boy with the plastic hammer. Um, and it looks like the dad is just in a hospital bed, but his blanket is the American flag, not quite a casket.

28:09 But also they're outdoors.

28:11 It's a dead soldier on a gurney. Oh, yeah, it's a cot. It's a hospital cot with an American flag over him, and they've just brought him directly from the hospital in full uniform, put the American flag over him, and then put him in front of his three-year-old son, who is then going to give this speech. Daddy, I brought.

28:32 My plastic hammer. We have to fix my wooden bed. Get up and help me, Daddy.

28:41 And he puts the... So... Yeah. So, all right. So that one... Like, again, I brought my plastic hammer. We have to fix my wooden bed. I don't know. Yeah, the AI is just, you know, getting a little poetic. Yeah. But it's very strange because it's a bunch of adults standing, like, in formation behind him in a weird way. There's no seats.

29:04 There's no real funeral. I don't see, like, a.

29:07 People don't seem to be dressed for a few years.

29:09 It looks like they just stepped in from spring break. It looks like the avatars of people that would be in my replies in the summer of 2020 on Twitter. That's what it looks like. It's all like wraparound sunglasses, tank tops, jean shorts, and just like solemn, somber Americans. So this next one is my favorite because it's another, it could be the same kid in a church. So they were like, let's make it more funereal. They're in a church. The casket is there. They've gotten a lot of the details right. They have full uniform military people behind them. The dead soldier is full uniform. But his torso is rotated 90 degrees. He, like, cranked that shit hard, you know?

29:55 Well, that's how he dined.

29:57 I mean, like, that would be, like, the jokey Mel Brooks version of, like, depicting a soldier blown in two at a funeral.

30:03 100% 90 degrees and like such a weird like his head is hanging off the side of the fucking coffin side of the coffin also the mother or wife partner is holding his laundry as if that's the flag usually they give you the uniform a flag but but he's also like based on this his uniform uh suggests that he's eight feet tall but here we go.

30:29 Daddy please wake up i miss you Don't leave me alone.

30:34 Okay.

30:36 Yeah. Yeah. Daddy, don't leave.

30:38 It's like all, it's all so cynical and like really playing on some psychological shit too. A, like I feel like you're, you're basically using the leverage of like the war dead, which I feel like boomers, they respect boomers.

30:51 They respect American soldiers.

30:53 Like, you know, there's clearly an inbuilt respect for people in uniform and sacrificing their lives. And then there's also like this thing of like a child crying, which I'm, I'd imagine to a lot of them are grandparents or something, parents themselves. So that's going to work on them. The other thing I think of too, is like, It also feels very JFK Jr. at JFK's funeral.

31:14 Right. Where he's like saluting that little boy saluting the casket.

31:17 Yeah.

31:17 And I feel like that's another texture that boomers would be like. That's their 9-11. Yeah. Yeah.

31:23 Like to me, I kind of see all the pieces, but somehow it's all turned into this hyper focused form of slot that gets a ton of engagement.

31:31 It's also, it seems kind of like the cousin to those videos where a parent, usually the dad, has left on some tour overseas of whatever in the military. And then they come back and they've been gone for two years or whatever. And they come back and then the kid doesn't know that their dad is there. And then he pops out and it's like, oh, my God. So it's just like... The father-son relationship.

31:58 Yeah, everyone's got daddy issues, for sure. There's not one mom dying. That's what I do know. And it makes sense.

32:06 I feel like the people who raised boomers, not the best men who had their shit together in a psycho-emotional way, having things like Trump from World War II that they just manifested and be like, He just sat in his lounger all day and didn't say anything to me.

32:22 There's also a good chance that these are being shared and liked by people who aren't allowed to see their grandkids, you know? Yeah, right now. Yeah, as we've learned a lot of this generation.

32:32 Okay, I was talking to somebody and I was trying to talk about the Michael Jordan fuck them kids meme that they have.

32:39 And I googled fuck them kids Jordan meme. There's a book called Fuck Them Kids that is written by like a psychologist or like a therapist that's written for parents who are estranged from their children and being like, man, fuck them kids that are ignoring you. The like meme literate boomers.

32:56 Right.

32:57 It's called.

32:57 And I'm like, what the fuck book is this? It's like for people who don't understand, like it's truly just written for the parent who has been left and trying to get them deeper into their like cynicism about their children.

33:06 It's like, yeah, man, fuck them kids anyway. So with these videos, though, they get a ton of fucking engagement.

33:12 Oh, yeah.

33:13 And the thing is, like, you know, in the article in Jezebel, they're pointing out that. The main thing, right, is, like, the comments are full of bots and people looking for marks to scam.

33:22 And this is actually the best way to, like, bait to go fishing for marks. Put up a video that makes no fucking sense visually. So, like, he is rocked like that. He's at a 90-degree angle intentionally. I don't know, in a way that.

33:37 They don't care because clearly the quality never mattered. But if you're engaging with it, then they can start being like, oh, let me reach out to this person and see.

33:44 If this thing works. Someone with a really bad eye for detail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

33:48 So these people are taking the bait.

33:50 Yes, they are.

33:52 And there's a clip. There's another clip I think we should just play that shows another version of this video where it's a child under arrest at a McDonald's or something by a cop because they don't have enough followers.

34:04 They do this other thing, too. For like a kid's account, they'll be like, you got to follow this kid's account now because he's going to get fucking arrested.

34:12 That's like a Black Mirror episode.

34:15 It's the second. Yeah.

34:18 You are under arrest.

34:19 Why? I didn't do anything. You don't have enough followers and shares on your videos.

34:23 Please give me one more chance. I don't want to go to jail.

34:26 If the person watching this video follows and shares, then you will be free.

34:30 Please share and follow.

34:32 Now look at the look.

34:33 You are under arrest.

34:34 Just look at the comments underneath here. Hold on, I just need to see what his name is so I can like and follow. Yeah, you don't want him to follow the channel. But there's so many people who are like, let him go. One said, I'm here, sweetheart. And officer, please let that girl go. Now, some are bots. There are other people who are like, don't worry, I just followed.

34:53 Those are like legitimate responses. And again, if you're a fucking scammer, you go, spider caught a fly. Get on a phone. spider caught a fly is exactly like what's big spider caught a fly energy look.

35:08 Out for just do not tell warn your fucking elderly parents do not engage with this shit at all at all because it's also like they're put it they're filtering potential marks with these videos so it's uh yeah this is like i mean it kind of feels exactly where we thought we'd be with like ai generated video yeah is that like first the whole thing is like people aren't going to know, be able to discern the difference between AI and real videos.

35:33 Right.

35:33 And slowly it's creeping into more like political propaganda, but like the lowest hanging fruit is stuff like this because it's completely unregulated. And it's just like, I don't know, I'm just making fun stuff and seeing if people, you know, cry for the soldier that was blown in two who's been rotated in the casket.

35:48 He just sloppily put his body back together.

35:51 Also, if you look at that first video where the shape of an elf, where the kid had the plastic hammer, the soldier's also crying.

35:57 Yeah.

35:58 It seemed like he was breathing, too.

35:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all, again, it's all AI. That will happen, actually. If you're crying over a casket, the dead body will cry. That's true. Clapton wrote a song about it. That's right. Tears in Heaven.

36:09 My mom is very smart and discerning and would not fall for the likes of any of this. But her mother, my grandmother, who is now dead, may she rot in hell.

36:17 Oh, wow. She is. I'm sorry. And you're saying that purely because of how media illiterate she was. I have a fucking podcast about fucking movies.

36:33 And she didn't appreciate it.

36:34 She didn't buy a single ticket. That cop should have fucking arrested her.

36:40 She did not sign up for my Patreon. No, she was a horrible person. She was homophobic and racist and just a god awful person. Abusive, etc. So, um, but, uh, and maybe it's related, but she got several like debit cards and credit cards canceled. And my mom was like, why, why did this happen? What's going on? And it turns out she had, this was like pre AI, but she would get all these like robo calls or just different like spam phone calls and fall for.

37:10 Every single one.

37:12 It happened like five or more times.

37:14 They have her name on a list.

37:16 Yeah.

37:18 Call her up. A core user, a power user for scammers. We just want to secure your Apple ID account. I'm calling from Apple customer security. Oh, no.

37:31 Anyway, humiliating for me to have been related to her and have the same, like some of the same genes and stuff.

37:37 Yeah, sure, sure. You'll be fine. You're fine. You're doing fine. Thank you. It is funny that the story about AI that we heard heading into AI was that, like, they're going to be able to clone your grandkid and then, like, have your grandkid call and be like, I've been kidnapped. Send money. But, like, it's actually because they're so fucked up and they don't have relationships with their grandkids anymore.

37:58 They just have to create a composite grandkid for them to be like, I'll give... Yeah. I feel... You'd imagine there's a market for that, for like a synthetic FaceTime call with a relative who you have no contact with right now. What if that's what it is? Yeah, they're like, yeah, actually, I want the AI. I want the girlfriend experience. The AI girlfriend experience. I want the grandchild experience. Jesus Christ. Hey, great idea, scammers. I mean, honestly, just do that. Just sell a fake grandkid. Then you don't have to scam them.

38:27 They'll pay you like thousands of dollars. Yeah, yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. Just fucking robot Thanksgiving dinner. I mean, it's like hard. It's like, it's like hard to square it either way. It's like, do you use AI? It's like, then do you hire living actors? It's like, no, I don't need to rope living children into this. Yeah.

38:45 Trying to do it. I'm trying to do this scam above board. If possible.

38:48 Yeah.

38:48 Ethical.

38:48 Ethical scamming.

38:49 Yeah.

38:50 Yeah.

38:50 Exactly. Get into the rehearsal territory. Season two of the rehearsal. Season one. Of the rehearsal. Yeah. Let's talk about Steve Hilton, because this is one who, like Caitlin with Clavicular, had kind of missed me. And I was like right on the verge of just having him sail on by. He's probably going to lose the California gubernatorial race. Pretty solid chance.

39:12 He's not looking good. And he was about to just lose the lose the election. And then he was like, make a little noise. Yeah. He's like, let's do something interesting here. Let's see. Let's see what we can fucking get. Let's uh do something that will not save my election but will make me horny no when i watch it yeah uh so look this billionaire brit steve hilton again british yeah yeah yeah what the fuck.

39:41 And he's running for california governor.

39:43 Come on is this allowed yes what do you mean what do you mean this is allowed you idiot You don't have to be born here to be governor. You just have to be president.

39:52 So his latest ad is getting a lot of criticism, especially from his fellow Republicans, because it's a creepy, hyper-sexualized garbage ad fantasizing about.

40:04 This has to be AI, too, right? He... Someone....

40:07 Like on a tweet that he posted of it said, this is AI. And he said, no, it's actually not. I paid people to do this.

40:15 I don't even know. It doesn't matter. I was going to pay them to do this anyway. So I figured why not film it?

40:20 Well, he said, he's like, no, this is actually a real, I used a fantastic production company. Although who knows it, it, it feels like it, the version that we're going to play has the music filtered out. So it doesn't get like copywritten or copyright struck. That's why the filter makes the voices sound a little uncanny.

40:36 Okay.

40:36 Because when I watched the original version, it didn't have that sort of like active filter voice on it. Either way, it's irrelevant because it's the thrust of the ad that's fucking disgusting.

40:46 Don't use that word. Well, sorry. But again, a hyper-sexualized scenario, fantasizing about a world where women are voting against their own interests, but in a sexy way. Yeah. Okay, one woman is wearing a shirt that says resist. Don't be nervous.

41:08 It's not that bad.

41:10 I've just never done anything like this before. Like, what if my dad finds out?

41:13 Just try it.

41:14 Look, give me your hand. Okay, so it's like two women. Close your eyes. She's grabbing this girl's hand. And now it's like, what are they doing there? And I'll do all. Hand is going off screen. Off screen, below screen. She's kind of wincing, unsure. See? And the reveal is... She's literally bubbling in her ballot, says Steve Hilton, Republican. I think I liked it. Wait a second.

41:45 Now lick it.

41:48 Wow. Now lick it. Now lick it. Your ballot envelope. And it just said, you know, just give it a try. I hated that. Just try it. It doesn't make any sense as an appeal to voters in any way. No, it's just stupid. It's just an idea that a dipshit had for a video. Right. It's not to communicate. Dude, again, this shorthand of people always having that fucking blue hair is so stupid. Again, because both women in this have dyed hair pink and blue. Mm-hmm. facial piercings now we know right now we know we're in liberal california because of their blue hair um but again resist t-shirt and just merely being like dude like imagine if they were just like coerced into voting for a republican i still don't understand.

42:38 There's no logic whatsoever yeah.

42:41 It's just salacious for the sake of it having like this double entendre of like right just try it being I thought it was drugs at first when I first like saw it. But then, yeah, it was clearly the sexual approach. And in either case, it doesn't make any fucking sense.

42:59 And the response like, OK, so a conservative Southern California school board president who's running for state superintendent hates it. said this is creepy, weird, disturbing garbage and said that the spot represented the kind of messaging that could push people away from the Republican Party. I'm glad she understands that.

43:17 It's like, no, no, no, no. This is fucking weird.

43:21 And then another one, Republican attorney general candidate Michael Gates also objected to the ad, criticizing what he described as its sexualized portrayal of young women. Hilton doesn't see the big deal here. Because this is now a part of a series of ads that's going to come out of the Just Try It.

43:38 I can only imagine what other problematic scenarios we see. Also, it's fucking illegal to be like, give me your hand. I'm filling in this ballot for you there.

43:48 Oh, yeah.

43:49 What is that?

43:50 That's voter fraud.

43:51 That's something. That's something. That's bad. And I don't want my I don't need these sapphic characters doing engaging in voter fraud. This is a bridge too far for me. He also, as I again said, it's designed to reach Californians who may never have considered voting Republican. Yeah, for good reason. Miles, that's probably the problem. They just actually didn't know you could do it. Yeah.

44:13 We just needed to be taught by these sexy ladies.

44:16 Like getting in a same-sex relationship. Same gender. What the fuck are we even talking about? Just got to fucking try and just see where it goes, man.

44:26 You might like it. You might like it, which is so odd. The whole premise is, you might like it.

44:32 Right.

44:32 I know your instincts are saying, fuck no.

44:35 Yeah.

44:36 But come on.

44:37 Without any reasoning of, like, why you might like it.

44:40 No, no, no. It's literally... Completely removed. Just try it. Content. Yeah. Any logic, any messaging.

44:46 Yeah.

44:46 I mean, again, when you literally have no chance, I get why you're like.

44:52 I mean, you might as well. You're like, fuck it, man. Like, what are we going to do? Like, we're going to get fucking killed anyway. So the... throw up some cool ads. I bet he thought it was cheeky knowing him as a British guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As I do.

45:03 Those Brits are so cheeky.

45:06 I bet they were like, let's do a cheeky one. The worst kind of Brit is a Brit who comes out here and becomes a fucking Republican billionaire. You're just like the most disgusting fucking... My five worst kinds of Brits. Yeah. Come in, number one.

45:20 Those are the only people who you can be like, go back to where you came from.

45:24 Get the fuck out of here. Go back to where you came from, Orange County.

45:27 Yeah.

45:28 That guy in another life was the dad from Mary Poppins or the dad, the dad from Mary Poppins is boss. Right, right, right. Sure, sure. But yeah, now he's just hawking these terrible ads.

45:39 I mean, they, uh, Not good luck to you, but I'm glad the fucking consultants who talked you into spending all this money, they're fucking laughing their asses off.

45:48 Sure, sure. I just fucking just did like $ 2 million worth of ads with this idiot. I wonder if he like went to a Democratic consultant, like the consultant who worked for Kamala Harris and was like, what we need to do is have a fashion week party where it's like Kamala Harris games of Jenga. But with your rights.

46:06 Yeah, yeah.

46:06 Precarious. Yeah, tower that are about to crumble. Did you ever see that? Like, election 2024? It's pretty viral, like, in the build-up, but yeah.

46:15 I never look at the internet.

46:17 That's good. That's good.

46:19 Have you noticed?

46:20 Caitlin's got a spark in that eye. I don't know what happened. There's a light on her eyes. The light hasn't died in Caitlin's eyes.

46:26 Wow, thank you so much.

46:28 Is that purely because you're not looking at the internet? I gotta try that. Yeah, goddamn. I got, like, a shark's eye. You got a shark's eye. Dead. Dead. Distant. Yeah. Far away. But yeah, I wonder if this was them being like, I'll tell you how to, you want to know how to reach Democrats? I've been working with Democratic candidates for a long time. Talk to young lesbians.

46:48 Is it true? I mean, clearly they're doing something with the idea of like sex sells.

46:53 Yeah, sure.

46:54 But they're also, I guess, are they trying to appeal to like young queer people?

47:00 It doesn't matter.

47:02 They're so out of ideas that these are the ideas. We're like, we're even looking on like, I'm not sure what you think this is doing. And even your fellow MAGA freaks.

47:12 Yeah. Also are like, I don't know, man, this is kind of, man, kind of fucking weird. Right.

47:18 Wouldn't MAGA people see the like pride flag and be like, or just the content of the whole thing.

47:23 We don't want them in our party.

47:24 Oh, yucky.

47:25 It just reflects such a lack of thought put into it. It, Encounters Democrats as like not actual people. Yeah. Right. Like, what do I know about them? I'll show them that they can fill in the bubble. Their wallpaper is a pride flag. They all wear resist T-shirts, facial piercings and have blue hair. That's right. And they're all pressured into lesbian activity in college. So we'll use that approach. That's something we also know. Coerced into being gay. That's right. What?

47:59 Nailed.

47:59 Nailed on. Great. Great work.

48:02 They're already gay. They're just being coerced to being Republican.

48:06 Yeah.

48:06 I guess.

48:07 Shrug. I don't know. That's the thing. It's like a Rorschach test. You can protect your own thing on there. Wow. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break, and we're going to come back, and we're going to talk about some similarly top-notch tent and top-notch content, specifically the acting work of one David Ellison, who now owns every company that makes movies. Almost. Yeah, almost. We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. And so the clip is going around.

48:50 It's a clip from the movie Flyboys. Have you guys covered Flyboys? We have not.

48:55 Actually, it's our number one request, so we're going to get to it anyway.

49:00 James Franco's Flyboys. Yeah, James Franco joint from the 2000, like, No, it's got to be earlier than that. Anyways, nobody knows. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. And it is a movie that co-stars David Ellison. So this is a tweet by... Sean Morrow, who wrote, Never forget that David Ellison's Skydance Media was originally created so he could be an actor. Skydance's first film was Flyboys, starring James Franco and David Ellison. David and his daddy invested $ 60 million to make Flyboys. It grossed $ 17 million. Here's a bit of David's acting. I do just want to share this with you. If you guys haven't seen it, I do highly recommend that you go watch it online. We'll link off to it in the footnotes. Footnotes? Do you speak English? Hey, Rollins, you're

49:58 game two. What? How did we get here, Ace? Well, first of all, you left the plane in kind of a hurry. Then this one found you out back and helped carry you in. Second, this ain't so bad. Oh, that was sick. Wait, that's him? Yeah, that's him.

50:14 Ew, he's so awful.

50:16 He looks like the 80s depiction of the shitty rich kid villain.

50:20 Mm-hmm.

50:21 Like, he has that face. Hey, Ron, she came too. She came too. She came too. And this one found you out back, my boy.

50:28 Is the character drunk, or can he just not really.

50:31 He's just really... bad at acting. We got James Franco talking to.

50:36 Because again, it's about Americans who volunteered to fly in the Air Force in Europe in World War I.

50:41 Sure, of course. And then he's asking if the person's... Hey Rollins, you game too? Hey Rollins, you game too? You game too or you game too?

50:50 Are you game also or you came too? Right.

50:54 It wasn't an inflection that would suggest it was a question.

50:58 Hey Rollins, you game too?

51:00 Right.

51:01 I'm sorry, what about game two? Of the NBA. Well, first of all, you left the play in kind of a hurry. Wait, what accent was that? Was that kind of Boston? Well, first of all, he came in where it was kind of a hurry. And then he doesn't have the ability to hold the camera for... like picture day and for like yearbook picture day, like let alone as like a movie star.

51:27 Yeah.

51:27 I mean, that's obvious. So uncomfortable and like dead behind the eyes and just, yeah. Yeah.

51:34 He's it's someone like, I think in a reaction that was just saying like, He's a failure despite, like, being in this end-stage nepotism.

51:42 Right. You can't even... You fucking own all the studios, dude. Everything.

51:46 You couldn't act your way out of a fucking insert inanimate object, whatever, paper bag, whatever, here.

51:51 But, like, it's unbelievable that he's given himself... Like, he set himself up to try and have a career. Yeah. But again.

51:59 the universe is so against him being any kind of performer that it just will not even grant him a modicum of charisma that would be like, oh, okay.

52:09 He's sharing the screen with James Franco, who's like doing a bad job of acting. Like he's doing a hangover act. He's like, oh man, I've got a real hangover. But you watch them on screen and you're like, oh, well, that's what an actor looks like. And then this is like what, if you put me in a movie and spun me around 10 times and just like pushed me out there.

52:28 Struck you over the head.

52:28 Yeah, yeah. And we're like, say these lines. Hey, you're game too. Yeah. I mean, you're game too. Game one, two. Hold on. The director's like, hold on, cut. I'll tell you if you need to redo a line. And if we do, we have to go back to one. Right. Oh, you're right. You're right. Okay. Action. No, Jesus. I say action. Okay.

52:52 Go.

52:53 Oh, you go. Hey, Ron. Hey, game two. All right. Forget it. Yeah. All right. That's a wrap on David. Thanks, man. His character is called Eddie Beagle. Eddie Beagle. It sounds like the dumb Nepo kid.

53:09 Yeah.

53:10 Well, what about don't forget Eddie Beagle. He's got to be in the plane with you, too. Not Eddie. He's also in a sex comedy, as mentioned, Hole in One. American Pie Plays Golf, which is just. The trailer is two and a half minutes long. We're not going to play it, but just so you know, it's, it cuts or he's the second lead and the trailer like cuts around him. So he just has like a few moments.

53:35 They're like trying not to show him trying to act in this movie that, looks like a high school student film version of American Pie.

53:45 I will say that for a sex comedy, Hole in One is a pretty good title.

53:49 It is a switch, unfortunately. I don't think he came up with that one. Hard bitter pill to swallow, but yeah. Probably his most embarrassing IMDb credit is not that one. It's actually a movie that he wrote, directed, and starred in in a 2005 short film called about a billionaire's son who saves his girlfriend from kidnappers. It's called When All Else Fails. Oh, boy.

54:15 A dramatic thriller about a billionaire's son who comes to realize the power of life and love when his girlfriend is put into a life-threatening situation.

54:23 Mike. His name is fucking Mike. Mike. Somehow it's just so funny.

54:30 The film's protagonist is 18, rich, and getting ready to leave for college. At his father, billionaire Thomas Williams, urging Mike struggles with whether or not to break up with his longtime girlfriend, Andreana.

54:41 Andreana? It's Andreana, not Adria. Andreana. Andreana.

54:46 You.

54:47 Hey, it's written by a real clever guy. That's a name I haven't seen. That's one. Don't remember that. Let's get creative. Andrea and I.

54:55 But it says, a free-spirited girl who is from a lower economic class in favor of college-bound freedom.

55:00 Lower than billionaire? Yeah, lower than billionaire. She's a hundred millionaires. Yeah, exactly.

55:08 It says, but when Andrea is kidnapped. Her dad is Phil Knight.

55:13 Yeah, he's like 900 million, I think. And he just gave a ton away to the university.

55:18 It says, when she's kidnapped and held for ransom, Mike is forced to go along with her captor's demands in order to keep Andrea and himself alive. Though most ransom stories focus on problems with the money drop or kidnapping, the conflict in the story is much more vital.

55:31 Andrea is diabetic. And as Mike struggles to get to her, Her blood sugar drops lower and lower to a point where every minute that passes is really a matter of life or death. Holy shit. Those are stakes. This is a plot of The Runner, the Gal Gadot film. Right. Oh, really? I mean, they're on to something. This came out before Taken. A1C, like, yeah.

55:52 But after Ransom. Diabetic terrorism.

55:55 Yeah.

55:55 As a plot?

55:56 Because, like, in that one, he's like, I gave your son, like, a lethal dose of, like, what, like, they're like, his shit's about to crash and he's going to go into a coma unless you get here in time.

56:05 Isn't there a similar plot point in Panic Room? Oh, I don't know if it's diabetes, but it's someone needs access to some medical thing that they can't get to because they're trapped.

56:16 Yeah, because that's the thing that's meant like that's the sort of gamble in between staying in the panic room and coming out.

56:21 Right. Right. Access to the medication.

56:23 I haven't seen it in like 20 years. Anyone?

56:24 Anyone? Which came out the year before this student film that he made.

56:28 So.

56:29 Could be that he got that idea from the very famous David Fincher movie. It's not a hostage.

56:35 It's a ransom situation, but also the diabetic coma threat.

56:40 Why aren't more movie protagonists the sons of billionaires? That's the question. Makes you think. We're about to enter golden age, Jack. They stole Taken. They stole the diabetic thing for Gal Gadot. But what about the main thing? Why aren't We need more billionaire netbook kids to be the heroes. Yeah. Because, like, it's hard for them. Their dad's always like, she's from a lower economic class. Just go away to the college I got you into. Like, think about what they have to deal with. Yeah. Yeah.

57:11 It's really heart-wrenching.

57:13 Yeah. Yeah. Like, what movie wouldn't be better? Humiliating. You and your dad go to the same plastic surgeon.

57:18 Yeah.

57:18 Ugh. It's a little terrifying. It's humiliating. You know? Like, Titanic should have been about Billy Zane's character.

57:26 Right?

57:26 Yeah. That's where the audience's heart.

57:29 I mean, in a way, Jack kind of steals Rose away from Billy Zane. Yeah. Right. And holds her hostage.

57:38 Right. That kind of straight up did.

57:40 For sure.

57:41 Straight up did. So four hot people are gross. Ugly billionaires. Number one. Number one. Although Billy Zane's pretty cute. That was peak Billy. That was peak Billy. Oh, my God. Peak Zane. That was peak Billy, baby. I was there. Anyways, we were there. We saw there for peak Billy. I just think that the people should have made more of a case against the, all these mergers. Yes. It's bad for the future of cinema, culture, business, everything.

58:10 Yeah.

58:10 But it also robbed us of a, Some really interesting work.

58:14 Dude, you know, I can only imagine, if this guy's been at it for this long, because, you know, the way he's done it now is like, he's just like, he's been able to scratch the itch by being a producer on fucking everything.

58:23 Yeah.

58:24 Without doing anything. I can, I, it feels like with the stupid reality we're in, the next thing is some dumb movie that David Ellison is being like, we need like something about like a cool billionaire.

58:36 Right.

58:37 You know what I mean? Like, we're like, people kind of get them wrong. You know what? We're misunderstood. That's what Iron Man was. That's Iron Man. Was secretly a very evil movie. It was a billionaire protagonist that gave Elon Musk his entire personality. That's true.

58:51 Yeah.

58:51 Yeah. Fuck. Yeah.

58:53 So we need a billionaire kid. Like we need what the Tony Stark did for the tech world. Just something for like oligarch apologists to all glom onto.

59:01 Yeah, exactly. We'll see.

59:02 We'll see. I mean, I would rather this be the case where the real-life billionaire son is an uncharismatic, horrible actor, piece of shit.

59:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

59:12 Because it's honestly very frustrating when you have a nepo baby who is also talented.

59:17 Also very good. Michael Douglas. Yeah. Oh, his new book is out. Yeah, I was reading it because he's been defending Nepo babies. Yeah. And it's like, we get it. You're Kirk Douglas's son.

59:28 You know, I mean, on the spectrum of Nepo babiness, I'd rather... If someone's going to be a Nepo baby, I'd rather their parents be, like, also actors or also.

59:39 In the film industry. We're a family of actors.

59:41 You're creatives. You're artists.

59:42 Yeah, yeah.

59:42 For someone to be the, like, son of a billionaire who.

59:47 Tech billionaire, yeah.

59:48 Yeah, like... And then they try to do it. It's like, stay in your lane. Yeah.

59:53 That's what you're always saying. Yeah. Stay in your lane. Just keep rah-rah-ing surveillance capitalism on. That's right. Stick to Oracle. Thank you. Come on. At Delphi. Caitlin, such a pleasure having you.

1:00:07 Thanks for having me.

1:00:09 Great Oracle at Delphi. I do. Had to get that in there. Oracle at Delphi. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

1:00:16 You can follow me on Instagram at Caitlin Durante. You can listen to the Bechdel cast and you can come and see us on tour. We are going to be in the northeast of the U.S. from October 12th to the 21st. Various dates in New York, Baltimore, Philly, State College, New York. pittsburgh and boston and then we're going to be doing uh other legs of the tour in the coming year so check uh keep keep this stay.

1:00:47 Tuned for other dates what movies are you talking we are not talking about a movie we are just doing a variety show uh like a reflection of the past 10 years of doing the podcast because it's the 10 year anniversary celebration show.

1:01:01 Thank you so much. And so, yeah, we're just sort of like taking a, taking a look back. We've got all these videos and games and segments and presentations.

1:01:10 It's going to be great. Go get your tickets. Yeah.

1:01:14 Linktree slash Bechtelcast is the place to go for that.

1:01:18 Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

1:01:22 That I've been enjoying? Let's say the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I watch it approximately once a month.

1:01:33 Nice. Really? Yeah. I didn't know you were such a... What's your favorite of the three? Two Towers. Two Towers, yeah. All right, so you know Ball.

1:01:41 Yeah, I know. You know Ball. Oh, I'm a big Rings head. I have a tattoo about it. Oh, yeah. There's video. I could even show the people.

1:01:53 Wow.

1:01:54 I'd have to take off my clothes.

1:01:56 Yeah, that's for the live show. That's right. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Lord of the Rings. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, boy.

1:02:07 Oh, boy.

1:02:08 Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? We're going to have to up the dosage. Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Grey. Talking about 90 Day Fiancé on 420 Day Fiancé. I'm talking about the Premier League, Manchester City's diabolical sham contracts, all that.

1:02:23 European soccer in.

1:02:24 In.

1:02:26 A footy. It took a second. My hard drive kind of had to warm up there. Caitlin, is there a work of media that you finished? Yeah. Yeah, is there? There is?

1:02:38 No.

1:02:38 Oh, okay, good. There's just another one. This one, this is from a comedian that I would love to have on the show soon, Brittany Carney.

1:02:46 Oh, she's great.

1:02:47 She's fantastic. She's also like a quarter Japanese and grew up in Japan.

1:02:52 I'm like, we need to meet.

1:02:54 But all of her stand-ups are fantastic. And it's funny because this one, the video I recently liked, is about Black Hobbits. So this is Brittany Carney. You can follow her at Brittany.Goblin.Carney. But this is her bit on Black Hobbits. I just like this opening part. There's Black Hobbits now. At long last.

1:03:21 The diaspora has spread.

1:03:23 To the shire. It goes on.

1:03:26 Silver Delivery, just her stand-ups is so fucking funny. Give Brittany Carney a follow.

1:03:32 Yeah, yeah.

1:03:34 Hey, Jack, is there a work of media you've been enjoying?

1:03:37 Didn't I already tell you guys that? Oh, okay. What's your name? My name's Jack. My name's Mike. Mike. My girlfriend, Adriana, got kidnapped. Hey, Cooper, you came too.

1:03:48 Robbie Eagle was the character from the.

1:03:50 Eddie Beagle. Eddie Beagle. Eddie Beagle. Eddie Beagle showed up. That is the work of media I've been enjoying. I've also been enjoying... I'm reading The Hobbit to my kids at night, so... Oh, very nice. Tolkien. Tolkien. That's how I pronounce that.

1:04:09 The works of Gerard Tolkien. Extra syllables.

1:04:14 Tolkien. I read that in sixth grade. And then as I'm reading it to my kids, I'm like, I think I stopped like a third of the way through. You're like, yo, what? What the fuck? Guys, this is scary, guys. These spiders are scary. I don't remember them at all. Spoilers. You guys are into this shit? Shit's fucked up. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. Blue Sky, Jack OB, the number one. Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.

1:04:47 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you'll find the footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?

1:05:04 Yes.

1:05:04 Okay.

1:05:05 People who have been listening know that I'm in my Delco era, algorithmically. I'm constantly being served Philadelphia stuff. It thinks I'm a divorced father who lives in Philadelphia, clearly, because I still get ads for youth sports leagues in fucking- In Philadelphia.

1:05:22 In Delaware County. Yeah. They're not even fucking memes anymore.

1:05:25 They're like targeted ads I'm getting.

1:05:27 With eight likes. Like a youth sports league with eight likes.

1:05:30 Truly.

1:05:30 For a Delco Junior NBA. They made it just to try and recruit you. Yeah, just to see. This guy's profile. If they got me figured out. So with that, I've been listening to Freeway. Great Philadelphia rapper.

1:05:41 But his album Philadelphia Freeway that came out my senior year of high school.

1:05:45 I was just re-listening to the album.

1:05:47 And there are these songs like sometimes you just literally have not listened to in 20 years and it takes you just kind of listening to an album front to back for those gems to pop back up.

1:05:56 And this is one of those things that hit me. Like a fucking Inception memory. Oh, shit. I remember this. And it's called All My Life featuring Nate Dog. Rest in peace.

1:06:06 So this is Freeway with All My Life featuring Nate Dog with Bink, the producer on production.

1:06:11 Bink, bink, bink, bink.

1:06:12 Very 2003 rap. And hopefully this, you know, blows off a few.

1:06:17 Cobwebs in the minds of elder millennials. That's around when my favorite movie came out, Flyboys. You've seen Flyboys? Similar era. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you list your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning, but we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye! Goodbye.

1:06:40 Bye.

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