The “Forever” Cruise, Gen Z Loves To “Cancel" 10.30.26

0:05 Dude, I like the beard, man.

0:07 Oh, jeez.

0:07 Yeah, look at you.

0:08 Looking official.

0:10 Oh, man, guys.

0:11 Looking like Floyd.

0:12 Officially from Georgia.

0:13 Yeah.

0:14 Right, yeah. Let me give you my opinions on buying bone broth and gold. I am Marjorie Taylor Greene, whatever.

0:22 Oh, yeah. How is she? How is Marge? She's been quiet recently. She's doing great.

0:26 She's doing well. She asks about you a lot, Miles. I know.

0:29 I know.

0:30 And look.

0:31 She knows. If she wants to get in my good graces, she needs to take back what the fuck she said about Yo Play Yogurt because it's for fucking adults. It's not for kids.

0:38 I am one of the only guests who listens to the show, and I agree with you, by the way.

0:44 You're lying, man.

0:45 It's not just for kids.

0:46 It's not for kids.

0:47 It's not for kids.

0:49 I'm not saying it's not for kids.

0:51 It's not a kid exclusive.

0:52 I'm saying it's not a children's yogurt.

0:54 It's definitely not children exclusive.

0:57 That's for sure. Like a Disney film.

0:59 Thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you.

1:03 Unfortunately, every time... Like a Disney film, did you say?

1:06 A Disney film is.

1:07 Wow, Miles. You're going to take that? You're going to take that, Miles? I told you this. No, it's just like... It's like cars.

1:18 You know? There we go.

1:19 It's... You can enjoy.

1:21 It as an adult.

1:22 Miles, you're a big boy.

1:23 All right? So don't let.

1:29 Don't let anybody talking about Yoplait make you think you're not a big boy.

1:33 You're a big boy. You can watch Cars 2. It's got guns in it.

1:35 Cars 2 is violent.

1:38 Why are there so many guns in Cars 2?

1:39 Cars 2 has gun problems.

1:43 Yeah. It does. It has a right-wing sort of subtext in some ways. And they also don't really answer serious questions about the universe of cars. Mm-hmm. No. Right. Like... what is a pit stop for you guys? You know, that kind of stuff.

2:01 Well, yeah, it has the moment where a mater leaks oil and it's unclear if he has, if it's the equivalent of having shit or piss himself.

2:10 Yeah. Right.

2:11 Also, where do baby cars come from? Yeah.

2:14 Why are there stairs in the cars universe? Because they've taken over and destroyed humans. It was a world built by humans, and they've killed us all.

2:24 It's dystopian.

2:27 It's the future of maximum overdrive.

2:29 Right, right, right. So no one's actually watching the car races. This is just a weird legacy tradition that they have.

2:37 No, I feel like maybe it's a school.

2:39 Car races are like track and field. It's their Olympics.

2:42 Yeah. Okay.

2:43 Okay.

2:44 Now I'm back in.

2:45 But the stairs are for no one.

2:47 Carbon emissions have killed humans, and therefore, the cars have inherited the Earth.

2:58 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 462, Episode 5 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist!

3:04 Yeah!

3:05 Production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American Shared Consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news history version of the Daily Zeitgeist dropping on Monday mornings called The Iconograph, where we do a deep dive into the Zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon. We just got done a suite of spoopy icons, fright cons, Dracula, Hannibal Lecter, scary children, of course.

3:33 The scariest thing of all. Unless you're talking to Miles, in which case it's the Harkonnen.

3:39 Harkonnen.

3:40 Freaking me out, dude. Those Grease Priests.

3:44 Grease Priests.

3:45 Whatever they're doing, you know what I mean? They got that altar with the fucking.

3:48 Motor oil and shit.

3:48 It sounds like a slur that people would make up for in the universe. Oh, if it isn't a Grease Priest.

3:55 Oh, look, a couple of Grease Priests. A couple of Grease Priests just blew in, huh?

3:59 Well, well, well. Anyways, you can check those out. They have icon on the title. They drop on Monday morning.

4:06 But here, it's Friday, October 30th, 2026.

4:09 It's All Hallows Eve Eve. It's also National Checklist Day. It's also Haunted Refrigerator Night. It's National Breadstick Day. It's Frankenstein Friday. It's fucking National Candy Carn Day. And if you're Nevada, it's Nevada Day, too. So shout out, Nevada.

4:30 Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. All the national days clear out when Halloween's about to happen. They're like, no, this is bad real estate. We don't want, give it to Candy Corn and Frankenstein.

4:41 Oh, here's some terrible advice. It's national text your ex day. What the fuck is that supposed to do?

4:47 I'm just saying we had something beautiful.

4:50 Yeah, I know.

4:51 Hey, you ever think about me when it gets chilly out? What the fuck?

4:55 This is a new number.

4:57 Oh, fuck.

4:58 All right. Well, do you ever think about me?

5:00 I don't know you, bro.

5:01 Yeah, just texted 1111.

5:02 What about you?

5:03 What about you?

5:04 What are you thinking about me? Yeah, you're like, who's this guy anyway? Where you live?

5:07 Hey, who's this guy? Who's this guy? My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I've got holes in different popcorn bowls. Popcorn bowls. That one, courtesy of ArchCamCam, in reference to the double-sided dildo of popcorn buckets that Dune 3 just released, or announced, I guess. It's got two holes.

5:32 It's got two sandworms, dude.

5:35 Two holes for you to, what are you talking about? I'm just saying two holes for you to reach in and grab some popcorn.

5:39 So just, you use both. With your dick. If you have grip or, yeah, if you have a opposable thumb there, yeah.

5:46 I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a.

5:51 Eatin' your play, eatin' your play, eatin' your play now. Eatin' your play, eatin' your play, eatin' your play now. Shout out to French Prest on the Discord server and all the Yoplay AKAs. I will honor them. I love them. Thank you. And also a shout out. One of the Zeitgang members, Aaliyah, black Philadelphia was like, hey, you got to do better with the Philly. Like you're erasing the black Philly accents, too. And I'm like, shit, you're fucking right.

6:15 You're right. She's like Delaware County.

6:17 Yeah.

6:18 Yeah.

6:18 And I was like, I need more. You're right.

6:20 You're right.

6:20 And I was like, this is what I this is why I appreciate Zeitgang for these these messages of to hold me accountable for. Cause I said, look, I would be pissed off if some out of town or was acting like they knew Cali slang.

6:31 Okay. Right.

6:31 So Philadelphia is, I apologize. I will do better. And also then everybody.

6:36 In California is like, yo dude.

6:39 Yeah.

6:39 They sound like crush from finding Nemo.

6:43 Every Californian.

6:45 Oh, Kendrick Lamar. He's like, yo, top of the morning, top of the morning, top of the morning.

6:52 Okay.

6:55 Oh, no. I didn't know you guys knew him. Yeah. Top of the morning.

6:57 Top of the morning. Certified lover boy, certified pedophile.

7:03 Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all.

7:08 Don't fuck him up.

7:10 Miles, we are thrilled to be joined once again by a writer, one of the best podcast hosts.

7:16 And executive producers doing it. You know him from Ridiculous History, Missing in Arizona, Wrongful Conviction with Ben Bolin. And of course, you know him as the star of the Netflix show, Stuff They Don't Want You to Know. It's Ben Bolin!

7:30 Ben Bolin!

7:32 They're hating.

7:33 Right.

7:34 What were we thinking? What were we thinking?

7:38 Riding Dirty?

7:38 Is that what you were doing?

7:39 Yeah, I was trying to do a Riding Dirty.

7:41 Oh, you got Ben Bolin.

7:42 Oh, yeah.

7:42 Riding. Jack, you have a better voice. Ben, it's always in my head. Every time I hear that song, I hear Ben Bolin.

7:51 Oh. For me, it's always Bolin.

7:53 And every time I hear your name, that's how I hear it. You got Ben Bolin. Bolin for me. We fly high.

7:59 Thank you.

8:00 We fly high. Nola, you know Ben Bowen.

8:06 You guys are like the coolest. I'm on this continually quest to impress my girlfriend. And I'm always like, hey, you know, I do a lot of shows. And she goes, oh, yeah, but do you ever get on Daily Zeitgeist? And I said, you know that. That's what all the girls are asking. She says, you can't text those guys. And I say, I fucking will.

8:30 Watch this right now.

8:32 I'll FaceTime them right now. Yeah, they're probably busy right now.

8:36 Apologies about all the text, I guess I should say.

8:38 Wait, so every time you text us, it's to prove to your girlfriend that you know us?

8:43 Yeah, our friendship is her sats. And it's here. It's just a flex.

8:51 You know, many friendships are just a flex. So happy to be your flex, Ben. Thrilled to have you here. I did just put a piece of gum in my mouth, and I apologize for that, but I'm not going to spit it out.

9:01 What the fuck?

9:01 We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about today.

9:07 We're going to talk about, so we're going to check back in with the forever cruises. Remember this?

9:14 Remember those?

9:15 There was one during the pandemic that was hyping the idea that you pay a flat fee and you're just on a cruise for years.

9:24 Forever. Yeah, summer forever. Yeah.

9:26 And you save money in theory, right? Because it's cheaper than being in a retirement community.

9:35 In a rotting, despotic place like the United States. Where retirement is a death match that you have to survive.

9:43 So we have an update from one of those.

9:45 One of those cruises.

9:47 I hope it's good news.

9:48 It is. It's really good news for them.

9:49 Really good.

9:50 No, for them, we mean the oil companies. They just got dropped somewhere. Really good news for oil companies.

9:55 Yeah.

9:55 Really good news for oil companies.

9:57 Oh, yeah.

9:57 Seems like those are the only people who have good news these days. weird right we'll talk about.

10:01 A dwarf planet we'll talk about an update on grand theft auto 6 apparently you can throw dog poop in grand theft auto 6 there it is that's the big news i guess.

10:10 We don't have much i know this was big for you man yeah oh i.

10:14 Can't wait to be throwing dog shit in miami yeah just oh god i can't wait.

10:19 You think you can throw it at Bolsonaro? You think they've got that?

10:22 Oh, that'd be a great patch where you just see the Bolsonaros wandering around Miami Beach or some shit.

10:27 Where's my passport?

10:29 Yeah, yeah.

10:30 And then we will ask the important question, is Gen Z trying to cancel Freddy Krueger?

10:37 Yeah, I've seen posts like this.

10:38 Yeah.

10:39 Are they? A lot of posts are just, it seems like it's from millennials being like, do they just... They just figure out who Freddy Krueger is, what his whole lore is. He's a fucking child molester.

10:50 That's his thing. All of that, plenty more. But first, Ben, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

11:02 One, silent letters, Jack and Miles. You know silent letters. They're the things that are... utterly cartoonish in any language. We have a ton of them in, like every language gets a little bit self-centered. You'll be speaking with someone who talks about Spanish. They're like, oh, this is the most difficult language. English is notorious for English speakers saying, actually, English is the most difficult language to learn. And that's bullshit.

11:34 If I can curse on here. I was fascinated to learn that 60% of all words in modern English, have silent letters. And we kind of understand why. Sometimes why. But we all sort of tolerate silent letters. So I was looking at you guys' names, and I got to tell you, Jack, I don't want you to feel bad about this one, but Miles has... all letters pronounced in his name. Technically.

12:12 Right.

12:12 So what Jack would have to be like Jack.

12:14 Yeah. You'd have to be Jack.

12:19 If you pronounce it, if you pronounce my name, like the Billy Joel song, uh, moving out, moving, working too hard can give you a Jack.

12:28 Right.

12:29 Yeah. I'm just fun. Fun. Billy Joel reference. You're welcome.

12:31 Timely, timely, timely, super.

12:33 Relevant to, and, uh, The reason I was thinking about this, I recently did an exploration on silent letters for a different show. And I was astonished by not only how we as a, I guess, community of speakers have accepted all these strange artifacts and artifacts, excuse me, and legacy hires of language, but we Teach it to kids. And so for you guys as parents, I can only imagine you have your kids asking questions like, hey, dad, why is this spelled this way? When it should obviously, it obviously sounds different. How do you guys handle that?

13:19 Well, my kid can't read, and that's by design because I don't want to have to do that. I don't want to explain anything.

13:26 I hit the road once those questions started popping up. They haven't seen me in a while.

13:31 But I know your kids are very inquisitive, Jack, so I'm sure you've definitely heard.

13:34 Oh, my God.

13:35 These kids and their damn questions.

13:38 Man, these kids are fucking geniuses. They're asking questions. I'm like, man, I didn't even fucking think that.

13:44 Fucking smart are you guys? Yeah, my kids love asking questions, and they... It hasn't really.

13:53 Like, they've just kind of taken it for granted, which I'm glad for, but they are now learning Spanish. This is when it hit me, is when I learned Spanish in, like, middle and high school and was like, oh, this is... It could just be this. It could just be like the spelling is implied by the pronunciation. You never like do they even take I'd love to hear from like Spanish, like native Spanish speakers. Like, did you take spelling classes?

14:20 Did you have spelling quizzes? Because like my kids are like having to do these spelling tests all the time. They generally do well because they read a lot. But it's like you just have to have read the word.

14:30 A number of times. The idea that we pretend to apply rules to how words are spelled is absurd. It's just based on, yeah, like you said, legacy hires. It's just based on how someone did it once.

14:46 Neighborhood? Why is there a G in neighborhood? You know what I mean? And I'm honestly asking the entirety of the Zeitgeist Gang here. It's legacy IRS. Anyway, that's one search history, one more that might be helpful for everybody who is having too good of an afternoon. InQtel, I-N-Q-T-E-L. I don't know if we talked about this on air.

15:15 They're the 100% non-profit, not owned by the CIA company. venture capital firm of the CIA. Right.

15:26 Backing places like Palantir and stuff, too.

15:29 Yeah.

15:30 We're having a taste of that.

15:33 Yeah.

15:34 Very.

15:35 They have a name? I mean, In-Q-Tel seems like they should have come up with a different name.

15:41 It's such a dumb name, too. It's not very... I mean, I don't know who was making the names at the time they came up with this grift, but. I was recently looking into this thing called Colossal Biosciences, and their whole thing is resurrecting previously extinct animals.

16:03 Oh, yeah, yeah.

16:04 Weren't they doing the dire wolf?

16:06 Yeah, well, they're definitely in that conversation, and they're trying. They're you know, vaporware, big tech bro talk kind of people, right? There are horrid technological limits on what can actually be resurrected. But lo and behold, these folks, when they weren't able to make a woolly mammoth actual, they pivoted into genetically modifying dogs for the purposes of war. And they just got like $ 200 million from In-Q-Tel.

16:45 Cool.

16:46 Fun.

16:47 For fucking just monster soldier mutant dogs that we're going to just deploy out there?

16:53 Yeah. That's so dumb.

16:55 It was always a thing that.

16:59 Like bumped for me in the Jurassic park franchise and the alien movie franchise, whenever they're like, the company was like, but then we're going to use these fuckers as weapons. And it's like, but you don't even know how to like make them not turn on you and kill you. Like, what are you talking about?

17:16 Yeah. But once you figure it out though, right.

17:20 I know, right? Like, what's that old trope or that old cliche? We're building the plane while we fly it.

17:27 Right, right, right. Exactly. Exactly the kind of plane you want to be on.

17:31 That always seems so dumb to me, and yet here we are.

17:35 And yet here we are. So a question for the Zeitgang on that piece is, what is the most cartoonish dog you could imagine being weaponized?

17:46 Clifford. Clifford, the big red dog.

17:50 Oh, yeah. Well, he's got the size.

17:51 Riding in a battle on Clifford.

17:53 I'd be like, what the fuck is this? I thought we were going to have like fucking Dr. Manhattan or some shit. And we got this fucking guy.

18:01 We got Clifford, but we didn't feed him this morning. So, yeah.

18:05 He's pretty pissed. Yeah, and it's just like Dr. Manhattan got his dong out on the battlefield. Oh, yeah.

18:13 Big red dong.

18:16 Ben.

18:17 Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?

18:20 Good smells, which I know is a very basic thing to say. But I've been thinking about this pretty often because we've got these war dogs, right? Potentially. And they are going to, like the canid, will have a prioritization of scents. So for the the average dog or even the war dog, perhaps smell is as important as sight is for humans. Right. And I was thinking about, like, do you guys ever walk by someone? You both live in a much cooler part of the world than me.

19:01 Do you guys ever walk by somebody in a public place and you think, oh, gosh, that smell just. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.

19:11 I get a lot of scent memories from stuff. It's funny too. I just found, I found like a thing in my, my mom's house, which was like a bottle of perfume. Like my high school girlfriend had like left there.

19:23 Oh my gosh. You should text her.

19:25 Yeah. Yeah.

19:28 But I remember being, I'm like, what the fuck is this?

19:31 And then like, I smelled it and I was like, Oh my, I fucking like got in a mental DeLorean back to being like 17. I was like, Holy shit. I haven't smelled.

19:39 The perfume angel in decades.

19:42 But that was like a thing where very much it instantly just put me back to being a teenager because i was like one of the most popular scents that like girls at my school were wearing at the time yeah i have that a lot with like cooking too like there's a lot of things where i smell things that like smell very much like like remind me of japan um yeah but yes i'm i'm i love i love a good scent memory for sure so you.

20:05 Would say miles you would say smells are underrated, good smells. And Jack, I need to know where you're at on this.

20:13 I actually prefer bad smells. I'm a bad smells guy. I like things that smell like shit.

20:19 Yeah.

20:20 No, I, yeah, I love good smells.

20:22 I do feel like we, after having done a episode about Helen Keller for the iconograph and she, she once said that like she could smell like, somebody like her ability to smell an individual person is as accurate and as specific and personal as like our ability to see a specific person's face. Like she just, every person has a specific smell that like, I guess I'm just not aware of. So I feel like mine is probably dulled because my fucking sight is so good.

20:56 Yeah.

20:58 No, I don't know why, but I, that, that seems like, Incredible to me that somebody would be able to smell a signature scent that well.

21:08 And it's totally possible, right? It's crazy as well when we realize that the memory encoding part of smell means that your mileage may vary, your olfactory mileage can vary. So there are people, for instance, who may really enjoy specific smells that the rest of the world doesn't care for. Someone's like, ooh, horse manure. Oh, that brings me back to Renaissance fare.

21:37 Horse manure, I do think, is one of those things that is a bad smell objectively, but it reminds me of being a child in New York City when I lived in New York for one year. And like, so it does, like, I do have positive associations with it. There's a lot of things like that in New York City.

21:53 Were you around a ton of horse shit? Or are you just like in Central Park?

21:56 In Central Park. Just being around Central Park.

21:58 I thought you're like, you know, New York with the manure everywhere.

22:01 And I was like, yeah. I'm from the 1800s.

22:04 Sorry. Was that not clear?

22:06 Back when Wall Street was a big wall.

22:09 Right. You guys know me. I'm Jack O'Brien. I spent a year in the late 1800s working on a horse wagon outfit.

22:18 Yeah.

22:18 Yeah. At the Triangle Shirtwaist Company.

22:20 Oh, boy.

22:22 I was working over there. Missed that day, though.

22:26 Hey, I'm pooping here with my horses.

22:29 But do you guys have any, like, bad smells that have, like, positive associations that bring you back?

22:34 Yeah, honestly, horse manure.

22:36 Yeah, horse shit. Yeah. do elephant shit also elephant shit i'm back at the circus you know yeah yeah.

22:42 This shit smell like has a specific smell elephant shit.

22:45 I think so i just remember that what matters this is all from the same point in my life like when i was seven and living in new york and went to like uh the what's it called the like madison square garden because my dad was an assistant with the knicks and like there would be, like, sometimes when the circus was in town, you could just smell it so powerfully.

23:07 Back when they fucking were abusing animals, I guess.

23:10 Yeah, for the children's enjoyment, though.

23:13 Yeah, for the kids. Yeah, a weird example of this, and I think we'll have a lot of stuff on the Discord about sense encoding with memories. A weird example of this would be when I was living in places that didn't have the same sort of regulation around internal combustion vehicles. I still love the shitty exhaust. I know it's dirty, man, but I love that nasty smell of the exhaust. You know what?

23:42 That reminds me.

23:43 Yeah.

23:43 Anything that's like an old school bus exhaust, then I go, oh, we're going on a field trip today. I'm reminded of them. I got a shitty bag of lunch. And we're going to some weird thing in L.A. for a field trip. Thank you, school bus exhaust.

24:00 Honestly, cigarette smoke is like this for me because that like, you know, I was just like stopped at a red light the other day and I was just like, like sniffing the air like a dog. And I was like, somebody smoking around here. And there was like an older guy smoking on the corner. And I was like, man, that's that's my child.

24:15 I love that, too, is a car that's been smoked in.

24:18 I hate that.

24:19 I like a fresh one.

24:22 But that reminds me of my uncle's car in Japan because everybody was smoking in Japan when I was a kid. So I'm always like, ah, yes, I'm in my uncle's car. It's just covered in cigarette smoke.

24:35 See what I'm saying, though, guys, like we already we have to move on. But the the smells.

24:41 I think this is what the show is now. Tell me to move on, Ben.

24:44 I'm sorry.

24:46 I'll grieve him on my at my own pace.

24:49 You've got to move on. My uncle.

24:52 What is what's something you think is overrated, Ben?

24:59 I hate it so much. that I made up a word for this. I want to see if it works. It's a bit of a treble portmanteau. It's called disasterbation. This is disaster plus masturbation plus a third word I forgot. So the idea is we see this social tendency for people to be preppers and selling doomsday ideas, and they're not doing any real research on how you prepare for actual survival scenarios. You know, you got a bunch of people watching Hollywood blockbusters. Get a gun if you want, get two, get three, who cares? They're gonna be useless when you run out of bullets, but how dare you, Jesus Huber Christ, not take at least a few minutes to have clean water medication, an actual plan to reach your loved ones.

25:57 I'm going to drink my guns, actually. You go ahead.

26:00 You're ahead of the curve. The issue is these folks are a bunch of con artists. They're snake oil salesmen. They're grifters. They're selling fear. It's especially egregious when we're talking about people who are in various serious survival scenarios very quickly. And I don't, I just have, I have no respect for anybody who's going to pop on social media platform here or whatever and say, Oh, you know what you should do while you're underwater on your mortgage?

26:40 You should buy some fucking gold for me. Right.

26:44 Right.

26:44 Right.

26:45 Yeah.

26:46 Yeah.

26:46 They're like, why don't you learn like animal husbandry or some basic agricultural skills? You know what I mean? Right.

26:54 So I'm irritated about that because I actually had, I think I can say this on air, had some companies come to me for a different project and say, hey, you should, we want to partner with you.

27:08 Hey, you have a beard now.

27:10 Yeah, you have a beard now.

27:13 You've got some.

27:14 Great, yeah. Now that you have facial hair and it's not a creepy mustache, we believe you. Help us sell bone broth or what the fuck ever. Yeah.

27:23 Yeah. Yeah.

27:24 For, for apocalyptic survival, for sure. Yeah.

27:27 Just seeing somebody on X, the everything app yesterday was writing about how this is, they're like, dude, you know, this person used to work for the government.

27:37 So you need to listen to what they said. And the person was just like, guys, it's worse than it's ever been. The government saying like, you need to prepare. They don't say this very often. And it scared the shit out of me. Like, I was like, oh man, this person must know what they're talking about. But yeah, it's just buried in three levels deep of having to fact check anything that people are saying. And they've been saying the same thing over and over and over again.

28:04 Well, think about this, guys. Not to get too personal or too behind the curtain here, but we all have a reality in the United States that bad shit can happen, right? At a moment's notice, nobody is listening to to the nerds who have been warning about it for years, and now we have a larger movement across the fucking planet where various countries are telling their citizenry to plan for 72 hours where no one can help you. And it's just, that's the perfect time for these buzzards and these scavengers to get in and say stuff like, you know what you really need? Oh, bro, what you really need is a bigger... gun and you need.

28:52 My apocalypse food bucket.

28:53 Thank you. Rest in peace, Jim Baker, my man. Glad I got those survival buckets, Jimmy.

29:01 I'm not going to be out here. You need colloidal silver and you need gold buried in your backyard. Yep.

29:07 Exactly. Disastervation. Right.

29:10 And then you need to tell a bunch of people about how much gold you have buried in your backyard. That's going to go well for you.

29:16 That's the best way to keep it a secret.

29:18 And it's definitely not under that patch of discolored grass in my yard. That's just a separate thing that happened. I don't even know what that's about, but it's not there.

29:27 Can I ask you guys, do you have survival food? Do you have food buckets?

29:31 I have water. I have sort of basic stuff, just being a California earthquake thing that's sort of hammered into people's brains. Because I remember the Northridge quake. and it was.

29:41 We were boiling our water.

29:43 We luckily had frozen chicken breasts. I remember very vividly my dad trying to figure out how to thaw. We were so hungry and they weren't thawing. He was like, what the fuck am I supposed to do? But yeah, I mean, I definitely could have more. I think the thing that I definitely lack is the actual self-sustaining part of growing food. I was out early. I was like, you maybe could learn some agricultural skills. Cut to me being like, well, I put the water on the dirt and then it's okay. Yeah. That's, but that's my extent is maybe enough food and water for like a few days.

30:15 Yeah.

30:16 Same.

30:17 72 hours. 72 hours. Yeah.

30:19 A lot of water.

30:21 Yeah.

30:21 And what do you got outside?

30:23 You got edible guns.

30:24 You got edible guns, edible bullets.

30:26 Yeah. What should we have?

30:28 I guess that's my question. I'll leave you with that beard now.

30:33 Oh, thank you, guys. Yeah, I will text it. We did an episode a while back on bug-out bags, and I wish it wasn't as accurate and prescient. Mainly, yeah, water, you're looking at three liters per person per day. I hesitate to do this on air. We have shit to get to. But I will send you guys the list if you're interested.

31:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:00 We'll go through it.

31:01 Guns are not on it, by the way. What?

31:04 Good. Got that one solved. Yeah.

31:07 All right. What about swords?

31:09 Swords are top.

31:10 So many swords. Swords are like number one.

31:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:14 Sick-ass katana, number one. Wow, sick-ass katana.

31:17 I don't know if this is on the list. Stay out of here.

31:19 I don't know how scientific this list is. Number two is shuriken, the ninja throwing stars.

31:29 I texted you that list in confidence.

31:33 Ninja stars.

31:34 Yeah, Ben was like, hey, you going to Japan? Hey, I got some stuff maybe you can bring back for me.

31:39 Yeah, just bring it back.

31:41 Shoot, he can. I don't know where to find that.

31:43 Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back.

31:57 We're back.

31:58 And speaking of the apocalypse. Yeah. This news story reminds me of one.

32:03 Sure, sure.

32:04 Have you seen this?

32:05 Have you heard about this?

32:07 Yeah, this feels like something out of, like, The Parable of the Sower, that just, like, elderly people are going around the world on cruise ships without, like, any other place to live, and they've just, like, paid a set amount, cashed out their homes, cars, other personal property, and, like, they just get a room on a cruise ship that is.

32:31 Then, like.

32:32 you know, cruising the world and also slowly running out of resources and money.

32:36 Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, this is a great solution. Cruising forever till you die on a cruise ship. Because like I said, video.

32:45 Game in arcades, cruising forever until you die.

32:49 Hey, you want to play cruising USA, Jack? Nah, I'm playing cruising forever till I die. What do you, what do you do? But yeah, I mean, look, like I said, up top, uh, traditional retirement in the United States is, uh, the very unpredictable game because between social security the lack of medical people to take care of the what i was just reading about how there's going to be an explosion in people with dementia uh in the coming years because of life expectancy like people are living longer so therefore the population with dementia is going to grow and then what of the people that are caretakers for those people that's a question that has not been answered in this country um So, yeah, there's all kinds of things

33:29 you look at, like, on the horizon for people that are, like, entering retirement or about to. And you're like, what do I do here? So a lot of people have cashed out their homes, their cars, other personal property to, like, buy a cabin on a cruise ship that essentially sails forever with, like, a monthly fee that you pitch in on.

33:48 One of those ships, the Villa V Odyssey, just went bust, right? And they kicked out all 200 passengers and their fucking pets. Like, they had to, like, literally, like, take, like, a legal box, like, with all their shit and be like, sorry, you guys got to get the fuck off the ship because, like, this thing's fucked. Like, they've been fired?

34:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:07 The box with the little hand holes?

34:09 Yeah. They got to Cambodia and they're like, hey, guys, uh... Y'all got to go.

34:14 Cambodia.

34:15 That's where they're just like, sorry, we didn't really plan for this, but you got no ride from here.

34:20 Yeah, exactly.

34:22 And not because not enough people were paying into this cruise ship, but because the fuel costs had become overwhelming.

34:30 I can't escape those.

34:32 Yes.

34:33 CEO Mikhail Peterson told CBS News in a phone interview Wednesday that Villa Viei residents, they were paying an average of $ 700 a ton for fuel before the war broke out in late February. Since then, it's been paying anywhere from $ 2, 000 to $ 3, 000 per ton. So that's easily three to four and a half X-ing what those fuel costs are.

34:57 So yeah, now a bunch of old pensioners are now wandering Cambodia trying to figure out where they're going to go.

35:02 And I can only imagine that not all of them speak Cambodian.

35:10 Right. Yeah.

35:12 Like, I mean, it was crazy.

35:13 Like I saw like a clip, there was like this old woman. She's like, I sold my business and I don't know where I'll go after this. And you're like, Oh fuck. Do you have, do you have a, do you have grandkids or something or kids or not? Like, where are you going to go? Some passengers say, did say like uh that were speaking uh like to cbs news and other outlets said like the signs were starting to become clear like a while back uh quote as the war with iran dragged on and fuel prices rose paul montoya said residents noticed growing problems aboard the odyssey the company asked passengers to contribute more and asked residents to provide a loan for fuel so the fucking cruise ship that you thought you're going to spend your days

35:56 on became like your friend who doesn't have their shit together.

35:59 Like, Hey man, you think I get.

36:00 A quick loan or something, bro?

36:03 You front me.

36:04 What? I gave you a quarter million dollars and I'm paying like a huge monthly fee. I know it just could really, it really helped us out. Uh, then he said, quote, and then we got to Cambodia, absolutely no internet. And the food quality began to deteriorate about three months ago. And we knew that the company was running out of money at that time.

36:23 We saw that on some U S Naval. Ships.

36:26 The food quality.

36:27 Yeah, exactly.

36:29 Also weird that the first complaint is absolutely no internet, but it does make sense because you would want to contact a safety net if you have a plan. It just reminds me of some people I met on a cruise recently. I did not know this was a thing. right? Academically, I understood it, but I did not know in an experiential way until I met some folks who just said, yeah, I'm on the boat. I'm in the sandbox of this thing, and I just travel around from cruise to cruise. They weren't on anything as continual as a V to V, but they were just sort of hopping from one boat to the next.

37:19 They're like, it's cheaper than like a retirement home, and I get to travel and the food's there and there's medical care if I need it. So why not do that? I think it is worth noting, obviously, that while there may be an illegal war going on, oil is still flowing. And the big oil companies are using the Strait of Hormuz and the attention there as their new COVID supply chains excuse to to keep extracting record profits from consumers.

37:50 Because you'd think logically like, oh shit, no, the oil's flowing out, then they probably barely have any product to sell, therefore their profits must be declining.

38:00 The entire argument for this whole thing is that in order to keep pace with what they've been doing up to this point, in order to keep pace with the profits they're accustomed to, which is presumably what it takes to run this business, they need to raise prices. Are you telling me that's not the case, Miles?

38:18 Well, look, this is... Are you.

38:20 Telling Jack that?

38:21 Are you fucking telling me this right here?

38:23 Right here in front of God and everyone?

38:25 I'm going to say it, dude. If you just look at how much the second quarter profits have increased from a year ago from the top oil companies, ExxonMobil... Theirs have increased 104%. Their profits have increased over 100%. Chevron has increased 292%. From one year ago?

38:39 Yes.

38:39 Yes. We're in the wrong business, you guys. Shell, 131%.

38:41 BP, 144%. Valero, 418%. What? Whoa. Nice one Valero. Yeah.

39:01 Yeah.

39:02 Hey, you guys, I better hop in on that. I mean, again, these fucking people are stealing money at the pump from us and acting like they can't do shit about it. It's like, okay, Hey Chevron, I'm looking at how much fucking money you're making rather than making nearly fucking three times the money you did before this. How about making like, I don't know, God, like what if you only had like a 30% increase in profits?

39:27 Right.

39:27 Is that, oh like is that enough you fucking greedy fuck.

39:31 Zero like it should be keeping pace well obviously like capitalism nobody's happy with keeping pace but like if you're really facing uh you know supply like that's there's no way out of this that doesn't involve just being like you know letting these people continue to just operate this way it's it's.

39:49 It's just playing in our faces, and they keep just saying the same excuse. Like, well, we don't set the price. It's like, I'm looking at how much money you're making off of it, though.

39:58 Yeah.

39:58 Well, to be fair, the security... You're certainly in charge of how much you can profit, but yeah, sure, shareholder value.

40:04 To be fair, the security teams that they have to hire for themselves and their CEOs and their boards are not cheap.

40:10 Yeah.

40:10 You know, they're having to really tool up.

40:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

40:15 Yeah. So.

40:16 That's why I mean, we were just talking about the same exact thing with chocolate recently that like, you know, Halloween candy is actually a different product than what you get any other time of the year. They're actually putting like just fake shit in there instead of chocolate. And there again, they're being like, well, it's the price of chocolate, but like that cocoa prices have like gone up. way down since last year, but they're just still doing the price-saving shit because it just drives profits.

40:47 It's just so terrible. Also, how the fuck are you going to name candy bar fun size? How is a candy bar more fun if there's less of it?

40:58 Fun it's fun it's like the same amount of chocolate just less there's the same amount of sugar there's just technically less chocolate so we can reach the 15 threshold to legally call it chocolate.

41:08 Shout out fda yeah yeah yeah so it's like soybean oil palm oil i i think you know uh miles and jack were texting me about this off air guys they were like fuck orangutans more nutella right.

41:22 Yeah more nutella If more fucking GPR, these goddamn primates are getting in the way of my snacks.

41:30 Get them fucking out of here.

41:34 That's probably how like.

41:35 This, like how Hershey's CEO, I don't give a fuck about a fucking orangutan. Trying to fucking do some shrinkflation shit over here. Now fucking get to it.

41:46 Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about all the fun ways we have to express our discontent, such as throwing dog poop in Grand Theft Auto 6 and canceling Freddy Krueger.

41:57 We'll be right back.

42:08 And we're back.

42:09 We're back.

42:10 Look.

42:11 What? I've not played any of the Grand Theft Auto.

42:16 Grand Thefts Auto.

42:18 Grand Thefts Auto.

42:20 Jack, you just look like Archie Hickok there in Glorious Bastards where you threw up the three whiskeys.

42:28 Grand Thefts Auto. Everybody knows it's Grand Thefts Auto. Have not played any of them. Was probably not going to play this one until now. Until this news story. Throwing digital dog shit. For some reason, this footage was shown on an episode of South Park.

42:47 Yeah.

42:47 It was revealed that you can throw dog shit at people. It only happens if someone lets their dog poop on the beach and players want revenge on the owner.

43:00 I mean, it's wild how much, like, how open Matt Stone or Trey Parker would have just been like, yeah, man, let's use this for some spawn kind of a thing. yeah yeah i mean it is stupid i mean like in the whole scene it's like it's it's revealed to us in the episode like look at the world building in this look at the immersion you can throw and like it's cool uh i mean i'm as a fan of the gts a franchise i'm trying to learn as little as possible because there's just too much shit coming out pun actually very much intended there yeah it's like that is more just like i i miss the fun of getting a new game and then you're like whoa what the whoa whoa this is cool this is cool when you go into being like you can do this

43:44 this this this this this than this uh the the fun is a little bit diminished for me.

43:49 It takes away the discovery yeah you know like we all remember the first time we threw a handful of dog shit at something You know, that's a universal thing. We'll move past it. I see your face there, Jack. But now, I hear what you're saying, Miles, the idea of discovering these little unnecessarily thought-out mechanics. Yeah.

44:14 Because even when the new Red Dead came out, people weren't fucking spoiling every single new feature. It became one of those things where you're like, dude, I was just playing. I don't know if you noticed this thing, this small detail that shows up around. And that's like, you're like, oh, then you get excited and you go home and you start playing the shit and you're like, oh, fuck, it is true. When it's all laid out like this, I'm less excited. However, it doesn't.

44:35 For that reason, sharks, I'm out. For that reason, I'm still in. I'm still in.

44:39 I'm still in.

44:39 Yeah, I'm still in and going to do this.

44:42 But also, guys, we just have to exercise empathy for one moment, which I know is a rare thing these days, but just to exercise empathy and respect for the whomever is working on the GTA 6 game and made this their passion project. They were up at 3 a.m.

45:03 Oh, certainly overworked and underpaid.

45:05 Yes. Yeah. They were like, the poop's not throwing right, babe.

45:09 I'm upset. What's up with the dog shit mod, man?

45:12 Oh, I'm working.

45:13 I'm working. Let's see what you got.

45:15 Oh, this is horse shit, man.

45:18 It's supposed to be dog shit.

45:19 Now it's horse shit. It's breaking apart like horse shit.

45:22 All right.

45:22 All right.

45:23 So I guess we need another lesson. We need more some hands-on training, huh? Go in the shit room. And then they just throw shit at him. That's what it should look like.

45:30 All right. Get back to it, man. Just the empathy, though, because these designers are so overworked and, as we said, so underpaid. And it's just so... strange to realize that there was definitely probably not just one person, but a team of people, a cadre of nerds who were like, we have to make this dog poop right.

45:54 Yeah. Rockstar Games overworked me to the point where I lost maybe three years of my life because of the stress of how I was getting the dog shit to break apart on impact in someone's face.

46:06 Anyway, that's my Tinder profile.

46:08 I do feel like.

46:11 It was probably somebody seeing someone's let their dog take a shit on the beach and not pick it up.

46:15 Right?

46:16 Like, doesn't that have to be what it was?

46:18 It must have.

46:19 I was just, you know, walking my kids into school today and walking on a particular block where people are just letting it fly, not picking it up.

46:29 Oh, what the fuck?

46:30 Their dog shit, they leave it?

46:31 They just leave dog shit.

46:33 That is a violation of the social contact.

46:36 It's unbelievable. And, yeah, my kids have, like, stepped in shit on the block.

46:40 Oh, man.

46:41 And it's just, it is really. Welcome to liberal California, Jack. No, it's not fucking human beings.

46:48 It's not the people.

46:49 It's stupid ass. It only started when Zoran got elected, I will say.

46:55 You keep saying that. Yeah.

46:57 I don't know what happened.

46:58 I don't know what happened in this town.

46:59 These streets were sparkling.

47:01 I hate, though, but that is true. That is a universally accepted. upsetting thing for anyone who's actually like has some sense of decency or like, yeah, you clean up your dog shit. Uh, I remember one time I took my dog for a walk and I didn't, like, I didn't have the fucking... The baggies ran out and the little thing. And I remember the neighbor was outside. I was like, I'm going to go... I ran out of bags.

47:22 I'm going to be right back. I don't leave shit. I don't leave shit. Just so you know.

47:26 I'm a good member of this community, sir.

47:29 Yeah. And luckily, it was my neighbor who was three doors down. So we know each other personally. But I had to even still then be like, I don't want you to think I'm one of these fucking... Shit litterers, a shitter bug, if you will.

47:40 Yeah, a shitter bug. I love the idea that you're three doors down, not the band. Neighbor was standing outside to vouch for you. And people would be walking by and be like, no, that's Jack. He's right back. He's a good man.

47:53 He's a good guy. Hey, hey, hey, he's having a rough go. He's having a rough go. He's coming back to clean it up. Don't worry. You don't have to throw it in a bag. Yeah.

48:01 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

48:01 I mean, that's how it should work. That there would be somebody there being like, hey, there's a piece of shit there just so you know the person's gone to get it, but.

48:08 I'll even, like, if my dog... Sometimes my dog will, like, shit and, like, kind of gets on the sidewalk. I'll even, like, put dirt on there, like, the remnants. I'm like, I don't need people walking in that.

48:18 Yeah.

48:18 Fucking soak that up real quick.

48:20 So you threw a little dirt? You just go dig into the dirt and toss a little dirt on there?

48:24 Yeah, yeah, or, like, leaves or something. Just enough to, like, so it's not a thing that your shoe or foot would interact with. That's... There's levels to the consideration with me.

48:33 There's levels to the game.

48:35 This game, in addition to being a massive undertaking, they're also putting in little observational things. You know what people would love to do? Throw dog shit at people who let their dogs take a shit and don't pick it up.

48:50 We've all been there.

48:52 You can steal catalytic converters, I think, in this too, which is great for a little bit of extra money. And take the copper wiring out of streetlights for a little bit of extra money.

49:00 Oh, nice.

49:01 Let's talk about Gen Z.

49:04 I love them.

49:06 Houston, Gen Z got a problem. That's right. They're trying to cancel Freddy Krueger.

49:14 Freddy from earlier?

49:16 Freddy from earlier. the Freddy that we were talking about earlier.

49:19 The guy with the knife fingers who kills everybody and was a child molester. Gen Z is, according to a bunch of reaction videos that I've seen and no initial videos that they're reacting to, Yeah, right.

49:38 You guys aren't going to believe what Gen Z is doing.

49:39 You see these Gen Z trying to cancel him? So it seems to have incited... The non-existent cancellation seems to have incited a bunch of complaints. The first video seems... So it all seems to be responding to the fact that now Freddy Krueger is a character that you can get in Fortnite. And he... Like, we'll teleport right up to you and be like, stab, stab, stab, stab, stab.

50:07 Which seems like not as good of a way to survive in that game.

50:13 Yeah, you do what you gotta do.

50:15 Yeah. So the initial video is just somebody complaining about the reboot, which nobody liked. Nobody should be defending 2010's remake. And that remake had Freddy Krueger specifically... like identified as not just a child murderer, but a child sexual predator. And like, so they specify that in the person is like, that was a bad choice. Like that was the subtext of the character, but to like put it front and center is weird. And that makes that movie worse than the original movies. And people are like, whoa, Gen Z's coming for Freddie now, dude.

50:53 Back when they were three.

50:55 Right. Right. This is the front line of the culture war.

51:01 Yeah.

51:01 It always starts with a couple weird things. You need a video like this and then a couple random tweets where then people go, oh, there's an entire wave of discontentment around Freddy Krueger and him being a thing. I saw one that was sort of a long list cancellation panic. But the person that they were saying was Gen Z was clearly a millennial because it was like a middle-aged dude who's like, oh my God, do you have a Freddy Krueger tattoo? Like that I've had for years. Like, what am I supposed to do about this now? And I'm like, this person isn't even Gen Z.

51:30 Wow.

51:31 So that's just someone who's maybe grappling with like that development about not seeing the 2010 remake or whatever, but hardly seeing a thing where.

51:40 So when you guys were growing up, like, wasn't that the Freddy Krueger backstory?

51:45 The son of a thousand maniacs was the backstory, of course, is that he was a villain. born into terrible circumstance uh and then died and returns to haunt people in their dreams because he's a jerk.

52:06 Oh it wasn't it wasn't that he was a child molester maybe that was like a urban legend that then got encoded into the 2010 movie.

52:14 I think it was bad when it was human right In general, he was already just a real... You sound like Freddy Krueger's publicist. Yeah, yeah. Right, right.

52:26 We're not saying that Freddy wasn't bad when he was human, okay?

52:29 Right, right.

52:30 However... Okay.

52:31 It's just, it's such a, you know, looking back at those sort of body horror, thrill kill kind of films, the world building doesn't make a ton of sense Right. It's it's evocative if you're not really thinking about it. Scary, of course. But he's a silly character.

52:54 He is a silly character.

52:56 I was saying in one of the icon notebook dumps that he seems like he's like in terms of his sense of humor. He's like written by the same people who write for Alf. You know, he's got like that same level of just like comic.

53:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, it's like corny. pun based humor. And then he also is.

53:20 You know, a, so Victor is saying that his backstory in the eighties movies was that the parents burnt him for being accused of killing kids. And then he haunts the kids of those parents or the kids of probably the children of those children at the time, like once in the future.

53:42 Like a sins of the father kind of thing.

53:43 Yeah.

53:43 Yeah.

53:44 Yeah.

53:44 But I don't know. I don't know. I always heard it as he was a child molester.

53:50 I think once that film came out, it just was, everyone was like, what the fuck? So now he's just been a child molester the whole time.

53:57 Right.

53:57 It was kind of one of those developments because like in the beginning, it was like, yeah, he's a sick fucking child killer. Was like, that was what Freddy Krueger was. And then they're like, yeah, and he's a pedophile too. Like, whoa, what the fuck?

54:09 That's the issue.

54:10 And so that's what, yeah. So that guy's like, I have this fucking tattoo. I didn't realize he was a pedophile. is essentially what's happening. And everyone's like, oh, they're trying to cancel Freddy Krueger. It's like, no, people are just noticing what this 2010 movie did 16 years ago, you know?

54:27 Yeah. Kind of a bit of manufactured outrage, perhaps. We can also see that, like you were pointing out there, Jack, we couldn't find an original clip that TikTok was reacting to. Right. So I'm wondering what... Look, guys, if you have to choose between a modern horror icon, who would you vote for? Would you vote for Freddy? He's a child molester now.

55:02 What about Voorhees?

55:04 Call that an October surprise now. Is that who you're voting for? That's who you're voting for, Freddy? Huh.

55:10 Interesting. Are you familiar with his past work?

55:12 You vote Trump too, huh?

55:14 But yeah, I mean, the weirdness of Freddy Krueger being as popular as he is is not a new complaint. Like, there's an iHorror article from 1988 that was like, Freddy Krueger lunchboxes probably shouldn't exist. This is a character who murders children, at the very least. Yeah, man. That's the tech.

55:35 Freddy, man, I love it. I love child killer hero, I guess. Yeah, not a great one. But it was something.

55:41 For people who were into horror movies.

55:44 I don't know.

55:44 I was into Freddy Krueger and Jason Voorhees when I was nine.

55:49 Sure. Sure.

55:49 I mean, I think at the end of the day, look, these are fictional characters. So if you like, uh, look, you know, we know it's killed people fucking Darth Vader. Okay. He killed young.

55:57 Right.

55:57 Also.

55:58 Yeah.

55:59 So, uh, if that, if you love a villain, sure. You know, but I just, it wouldn't be me getting.

56:06 A writer jam found a, uh, nightmare on Elm street themed, Freddy Krueger, yo-yo. So they really, Oh, wow. Yeah.

56:15 What's the, what's the point of that one?

56:18 Because children yeah it's like licensing mania you know.

56:23 Are you just intimidating other nerds at the yo-yo meetup yeah you're like watch the fuck out watch this.

56:30 Shit dude you ever seen that watch me walk the dog bro you don't like that i'll murder your little brother in his sleep okay that's what this yo-yo is saying about me all right get out of the way.

56:42 Oh that's so silly though it's it's also you know I'll be corny enough to put the fine point on it. There are real bad people that could maybe get this attention.

56:55 Real child molesters, even. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right. Real child molesters who shouldn't have their current job, I would say. Yeah, right.

57:04 Where cancellation is the minimum, I'd say.

57:08 It had to be said, guys.

57:11 No, I mean, of course. I think it's just, It's definitely like one of those things that helps be like, oh, Gen Z is soft on being outraged by the notion of a character like that being celebrated. But also, yeah, I think shows the paralysis we're in when we actually, you know, summoning the outrage when it's actually necessary on a mass scale societally for something.

57:36 Yeah.

57:36 Nobody's paying attention to petroleum companies just stealing money from people.

57:41 But they're like, you know what? The real thing we have to be worried about.

57:44 There we go.

57:46 What happens if you get too mean to Freddy Krueger?

57:49 Yeah. There we go. Because there's an inevitable backlash as well, right? Right.

57:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:57 Ben, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

58:04 Well, Jack, I'm going to crib a page from the book of Miles Gray. You can find me in a burst of creativity calling myself Appin Bullen, wherever there is an at sign.

58:16 There you go.

58:17 You can check out stuff they don't want you to know, ridiculous history. I'm also supposed to say we're on Netflix.

58:25 Yeah.

58:26 Check that out.

58:27 Look at you on Netflix.

58:28 Look at you.

58:30 Are you on the plane, too? Because I see a lot of that stuff on some airplanes are also there, too. It's wild. Oh, gosh.

58:37 I don't know. I'm still working out how to get off the no-fly list. Sure, sure, sure.

58:42 Like I told you, man, go to my fucking passport guy. Just use a different name.

58:47 I'll go to Derek after this.

58:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

58:49 He's cool.

58:50 Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

58:53 I've been very into... animal revenge videos, which may be appropriate for this time of year.

59:01 Like revenge on who? Their animal ops or on humans?

59:05 On humans.

59:06 Okay.

59:06 Specifically.

59:07 Go on.

59:07 So, uh you know you you see uh you see all these great injustices the humans carry out about animals i know we've talked about on the show in the past but team orca you guys.

59:21 They got the right oh yeah yeah yeah yeah when they were taking out the yachts man we already I know.

59:26 I know.

59:27 We already know.

59:27 It's like, how could you not love that gritty reboot of Free Willy?

59:32 Yeah.

59:33 Amazing.

59:34 Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying?

59:37 Yeah.

59:37 Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Everywhere they got at symbols, as you heard that say.

59:44 There he is. There he is.

59:44 Find me talking about 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance. I'm talking about the Premier League and Champions League European football on Ain't It Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin.

59:54 What?

59:55 Uh, that, that, what you just heard right there, that Basie voice, that was my work of media from at the washway. It's again, it's like, it's like this dude going up the stairs and it says, when you give your wife's guests one last courtesy laugh before disappearing. And I'm like, yes, uh, we have a very social household where her majesty has friends over and, you know, I'm, I'm, I, I, I recharge with solitude. So I think most people who know about this, you kind of just got to like sort of Costanza ask, just kind of leave them laughing in a weird way. But I just love this one.

1:00:25 This is just the dude. When you give your wife's guests one last courtesy laugh before disappearing. Yeah, that's crazy.

1:00:35 That's crazy.

1:00:38 Head down.

1:00:40 Was that laughing so hard? Your head has turned away from them. Yeah.

1:00:44 And you're gone and you're gone.

1:00:46 You're gone.

1:00:46 That's great.

1:00:47 That's great technique.

1:00:48 That's, Flawless technique. You just need those nice energetic punctuations.

1:00:53 Yes, yes, yes. That's crazy.

1:00:55 All right, man. All right.

1:00:58 You guys be good. That's what I'd add. And they'd be like, what the fuck? Never mind. Shut the fuck up, Jack.

1:01:05 You're not my dad.

1:01:08 You're right. Why did you say you guys be good and then laugh?

1:01:15 You guys be good. See you in your dreams tonight.

1:01:21 Why do you have that Freddy Krueger glove on? What the fuck is wrong with your husband?

1:01:25 Just let him go. It's it.

1:01:26 Just let him go. If you keep saying stuff, he's going to keep coming back and try and make it better.

1:01:31 Engaging. They melted me in a boiler room for killing their children. Okay.

1:01:40 He knows such in-depth detail about Freddy Krueger's backstory. All right. I liked a couple tweets.

1:01:48 I liked.

1:01:49 So, first of all, somebody, at Endlistay on Twitter, wrote on October 26th, Moon, you old coin, the night spends you wisely. Which I thought was just cute. And then Shiv Roy's maid of honor responded to that and said, this is what Liza Minnelli says when she tries to turn off a lamp. And then Integrity Guy tweeted. That moment when you have to tell your kid the Flintstones died before Christ's sacrifice and cannot enter God's kingdom. And that is a hard conversation that we all have to have with our kids.

1:02:32 No, honey, Fred Flintstone was not saved.

1:02:35 Unfortunately. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Blue Sky, Jack OB, the number one Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode, wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes.

1:02:55 Footnotes.

1:02:56 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song you think that people might enjoy? Yes.

1:03:05 This is a track from the South African artist Muzi, who's also known as the Zulu Skywalker. But it's actually a remix by Dan Kai, K-Y-E. This track is called Queen. So it's Queen, the Dan Kai remix by Muzi, M-U-Z-I. It's got just a nice little Afro house kind of feel to it. I've been very much in an electronic mood this week. So enjoy that. It's some nice sort of mood music before maybe you're gearing up to put your costume on and go out trick-or-treating or get your rain clothes on in California because we're about to have rain for Halloween.

1:03:45 Boom!

1:03:46 So, yeah, check this one out. Queen, the Dan Kai remix by Muzi.

1:03:51 All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zyka is a production of iHeartRadio.

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1:04:00 That is going to do it for us this week. We're back on Monday with another Icon episode. We got the greatest hits of this week coming out tomorrow. But, yeah, have a safe, fun Halloween.

1:04:14 Yeah.

1:04:14 Dry, hopefully, in some places.

1:04:17 You guys are so scared of rain.

1:04:19 Yeah. It's crazy, man.

1:04:20 The fucking water's just coming out of the sky, Ben. I don't know what you're talking about. Do you not know what rain is? It's fucking terrifying.

1:04:27 It makes the street stink.

1:04:30 In LA, it really does. But yeah, have a great Halloween, and we will talk to y'all on Monday. Bye!

1:04:39 The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Long.

1:04:42 Co-produced by Victor Wright. Co-written by J.M.

1:04:45 McNabb. Edited and engineered by Justin Conner.