
The Daily Zeitgeist· Staffel 462· Folge 4
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In episode 2150, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and actor starring in Christmas at the Kringles (fandango.com/christmas-at-the-kringles-2026-24…) (in theaters nationwide tomorrow), and host of Will You Accept This Rose? (ardenmyrin.com/tourmini), Arden Myrin (instagram.com/ardenmyrin/?hl=en), to discuss… Pete Hegseth Not Man Enough For America? The “Free Elizabeth Holmes” Guy Wants To Sue Nathan Fielder and more!
• Hegseth Needs More T—Poll Shows He’s No Male Role Model (thebulwark.com/p/new-poll-bulwark-pablo-torre-…)
• JustBlood.com (justblood.com)
• The guy behind those bizarre Elizabeth Holmes billboards threatens to sue Nathan Fielder (avclub.com/you-can-see-everything-billboards-n…)
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Arden, can I ask you a serious question? Yes. Oh, no. Do you think Yoplait yogurt is for children?
You know, it was my gateway yogurt drug as a child because I was like, I don't know.
Sure.
We weren't the healthy family. We did like Lucky Charms and whatnot. You know, we were the fun house.
Yeah.
We were the alcoholic house.
Yeah. It's cool. They don't have rules there. Exactly.
Oh, there was no rules. We had, thankfully there was only one.
Hey mom, I'm going to sleep over at Arden's. Exactly.
We only had one alcoholic. So we had the woman who was worried about, she would just go get good snacks. So the non, but because of that, I didn't grow up eating healthy.
You know what I mean?
So I remember going to other people's houses and being like, ugh, like yogurt.
This is not what yogurt is meant to be.
Yeah, I don't like yogurt.
We had fucking Dannon. Where's the coconut cream pie?
Dannon, at least you got like a chunk of jam on the bottom.
No, we got the plain Dannon in a tub.
Your family loved each other.
Yeah.
But I feel like Yoplait is kind of like a snack pack, but fruity. You know what I mean?
We were talking about that yesterday. We were arriving there yesterday.
I feel like if you want your child to get at it, and if they haven't been raised in like a... we're going to the farmer's market house. If you're already used to raisins on Halloween, then I think Yoplait is your best bet. Because Dan, it is chunky and weird.
Chunky and weird.
Kind of like a cottage cheese.
I mean, you just have to stir it up a little bit. But it's not for children. No. I get what you're saying. It's the first yogurt you had as a child.
But I think they were also the first, though, to make the yogurt. Yeah, the yogurt.
Which is for children.
I think now they really are more for children.
No further answers, Your Honor.
I do think they are for children. I don't think it's marketed for children, but people get it for their children.
Yeah, they do. That's fine.
But I don't think it's marketed, but the yogurt.
What we were saying yesterday with Blake and Sophia was that It's not for kids. It might be young looking. Yoplait gets into the club with no ID check, is what I'm saying. It's not a children's yogurt. They go, yeah, Yoplait, you're good. It's definitely old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not marketed.
What made you think it was marketed for kids?
Her Majesty. I bought it and I was like, oh, the kid needs some yogurt. And she got one of the Yoplait's. And I was like, oh, no. She's like, what? She's like, She's like, this is for kids. I thought you got this for kids. And I was like, I like Harvest Peach.
I like Harvest Peach. I feel like Her Majesty is elegant, though. I feel like she's got, I mean, she is royalty. She's royalty.
She definitely, like, she doesn't have a childish palate like me, where, like, she will eat, like, fayet Greek yogurt with, like, just, like, No, no, no. You even know I'm straight up. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, oh. I would eat phage covered in like jam and sticky peanut butter.
Yeah. She eating fage. I'm eating phage.
I'm eating phage and I'm putting on all the toppings like I'm at like Cold Stone Creamery.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.
I think I have a similar appellate.
Yes, thank you. Okay, good. Have you ever put M & M' s in yogurt before?
I would. I have never thought.
I always get freaked out when the dye comes off and then you get like the weird, like it looks like a half hatched egg when the dye comes off the M &.
M' s. Have you ever taken a gummy bear and put it in like hot water, like tea and put your, like a plastic spoon in and made like gummy soup and then like pulled it off of the.
So it gets stretchy instead of.
Yeah, and like pull that and you pull it off.
No.
Well.
You grew up doing that?
I grew up doing a lot of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, mom, go to Darden's house. We're going to heat up gummy bears and stretch them out and shit. Yes.
We used to go skiing and up in Vermont and they had like the beautiful, like, oh, and we would travel with like Mrs. Butterworth. They had the good real syrup.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And we were like, that's disgusting.
I need brown sugar liquid. This is disgusting. This shit tastes like trees.
This is so gross.
Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 462, Episode 4 of Dear Daily Zeitgeist. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. Even though I've said this every time to our guests, I still have to read it. We also have a non-news history version of the Daily Zeitgeist dropping each Monday morning called The Iconograph, where we do a deep dive into the Zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon. And we just got done four in a row, four spoopy icons in a row.
Fright cons.
We did Dracula. We did Hannibal Lecter. We did ghosts. And then we did terrifying children.
Evil children. That's cool. Yeah.
Twins.
Oh, I just saw, by the way.
The scariest of children.
Twins. Yeah.
I just saw two grown women wearing the twins from The Shining Halloween costume.
That's great.
Easy.
Easy one to make, too.
Classic.
It's a classic.
Or Elizabeth Holmes. And it's a great costume, and they.
They're like, what are you talking about?
Yeah.
They're like, oh, you can see us?
Yes. We've been dead for years.
It is Thursday, October 29th, 2026. Is it? We're almost there. Do you believe it?
It's Thursday?
It is. Well, when this episode comes out.
Oh okay great in the.
Cinematic universe that we're.
Sitting inside of i forgot to bring my barrels national oatmeal day uh national hermit day shout out to all the shut-ins national internet day uh world psoriasis.
Day okay itchy scratchy.
And World Stroke Day, too.
Okay.
It's kind of a bummer day to have right before Halloween. It's like getting all the oatmeal. Get your vitamins in.
Oatmeal psoriasis. Because November 1st is Rotten Tooth Day. That's right. For all the kids. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. My Magaconda don't. My Magaconda don't.
My Magaconda don't want none unless.
You got buns, hunks. Skinny in the middle with a regressive tax.
Courtesy of Arch Cam Cam in reference to our new mega queen.
Wow.
Mickey Minaj. Mickey Minaj. Mickey Minaj. Yeah. Look at how the mighty fall.
It's so crazy.
How the mighty fall.
It's the wildest turn of events.
I know. What the fuck?
It's crazy.
Thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancashire, the Shogun with no gun, a.k.a. Kid and Yoplait. Thank you so much to Dismembers on the Discord for that one. A lot of Yoplait, a.k.a. I'm going to get to them. I will get through them because this is my new RHCPK. Yeah, yeah.
The Discord also created an image of of you as kidding. I saw that. I saw that.
Yep.
Which I thought it was fucked up that they couldn't just give you the hair. They had to make it a wig.
What do you mean? Isn't there that one? Do you see it's a hat? Well, I think it's just crude. The Photoshop was just done a little bit rigidly. So it looks like I had like Frankensteined. Yeah, yeah. Frankenstein play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, it is what it is. I was like, just give him the hair.
Like a play tell hair, like a hair helmet on one of those dolls.
And also, I mean, they kid was Christopher Reeve, right? So Christopher Martin was playing. I should have been Should have been the other one. You guys fucked up big time. Sorry, I'm an elder millennial. I know who kid and play are.
Yes, but keeping it tight, honey.
Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests, an actress, comedian, the host of the Best Bachelor podcast on the national internet, Will You Accept This Rose. You've seen her in basically every comedy of consequence. Shameless, Orange is the New Black, Key and Peele, Fresh Off the Boat, The Righteous Gemstones.
Every show of consequence, too. How many times I'm watching someone go, what the fuck? Watching Grey's Anatomy.
Oh, yeah. I got a tracheotomy in front of everyone.
Oh, wow.
How was that for you?
Really funny. I'll tell you later. It's actually funny.
Her new movie is dropping Friday. It's called Christmas at the Kringle. And it looks fucked up.
It's not.
It's so fun.
It's really fun.
Please welcome back to the show, Arden Marie. Arden.
Thank you. Oh my God.
Great to have you. Oh my gosh, it's my pleasure. The pleasure is all ours. The kid in Yo' Pleasure is ours.
It is.
The kid in Yo' Pleasure, it is. I'm so happy to be here. Yes, it is a nuts, fun movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many Christmas movies have you been in?
I was also in Christmas at the Cranks. So I'm the Kringle. But this time I wasn't a crank. This time I am. I am a Kringle.
That means you're a Santa descendant.
I am a lady who does Christmas 365 days a year.
But it goes hard.
But it's a dark comedy rated R like horror gore comedy. Comedy Christmas. It comes out the day before Halloween in 1800 theaters. It's going to be like at the Grove and stuff.
It's a full ass.
It's like a real movie.
That is a real movie. A real full boat blockbuster. What are you doing on this show?
I was excited to come play with my kings!
My kings! I mean, we know each other, but wow. Do they take plays in the same cinematic universe? Christmas?
Yes, yes.
Yes, Tim Allen is going.
Tim Allen is just going to destroy everyone.
Yeah, yeah. He comes through.
Ha ha ha ha! I wish. Although Jamie Lee Curtis is in that and she's a scream queen. But we have Beverly D'Angelo.
The cast is fucking crazy. You being Exhibit A.
Thank you.
There's also just so many amazing people.
Tom Lennon, Dave. Wayne, Rob Riggle, Ron Livingston, Donald Faison, Rachel Bilson, and Beverly D'Angelo.
I mean, come on. Crazy. Come on.
It was so fun. We filmed it in L.A. And we filmed it.
Nobody does that anymore.
Nobody does it. And we filmed it in under 18 days. It's a labor of love. They kill. It's so fun.
Yeah.
They let us, like, you know, we would get our takes and then they would let us improvise. And, like, they used to, like, so, you know, the story moves forward. They would let us just go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was such a joy just to go get to... play with all these people. We all knew each other, but nobody was tight. So it wasn't like you were coming into somebody's duo. Everybody was sort of an independent entity. And you never know in comedy if somebody's going to... Everyone played well with others. And I felt like everyone knew their instrument in the orchestra. It was so fun.
That's great. The trailer is so fun. People should go check out the trailer right now.
The trailer is so fun.
You have... My favorite moment in the trailer. What did I do? Just the part where he gets interrupted about to say the thing.
That was enough. I improvised that.
I had a feeling. That's why I brought it up because you were talking about improvising.
I would say like 75% of the stuff that Tom... Anything that just feels non-plot related is me and Tom.
You and Tom. Having a good time.
Dude. It was... And they literally like... We shot it in 18 days. It was made for like a tight budget. It was so fun to do. And you just never... You know, I was like, oh, this might go to streaming or whatever to get a wide release. And it looks beautiful.
Yeah, it does.
And it's cool, too, because it's also like... Everybody just did their best because everybody wanted it to be. They're like, you know, I mean... the art department killed it. And honestly, a lot of the decoration is just from like, like Facebook marketplace. Like the budget was not, so that it's so cool to see what you can do.
Like, yeah.
Like everybody showed up with Facebook.
We were just talking about this with the Brazilian election.
You know, you know, I'm here on behalf of Facebook, you guys, I love Matt. Um, but it was just very cool to see what you could do. Like, on a budget and just making it look like people went for it and it was fun and there's all practical effects we did our own stunts.
Like it's gory.
It's gory I'm not good at drugs I would I get but if I was good at drugs I.
Would do take drugs before I would go.
Take drugs and go to this there you go this is a drug friendly movie and I'm not good most comedies are this is very drug friendly.
Do you guys get it something we talk about on this show is just that christmas is kind of a quietly horny season oh fun you guys.
Like the cuffing season yeah let's.
Talk about that that's when so most birthdays like the if you look at when the most birthdays are nine months after the holiday season.
People get everyone i love is like a september baby because people be getting at you virgo you're with them i love what's your birthday september 15th I love it for real.
Thank you. And I love you.
Thank you. I'm a Sag, so I'm the one that's just getting at it. I'm like, uh-oh, I made a baby.
Early December, right?
Yes, it's the 10th. I'm a 10th. No, no, people get it. It's a horny season.
Nice.
And it's also, I feel like it's like, even maybe if marriages are like, you know what? I'll give it a go with Lorraine one more time. You know what I mean?
As optimistic as it gets. I'm getting a little blue thinking about you. Yeah.
Let's just go to your parents for the holidays and let's just have a little nog and get at it.
Have a little nog.
Have a little nog and.
Get at it. How many human lives had a little nog as the foreplay?
My brother and my mom, for sure.
Yeah, yeah. For sure. All right. Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're very excited about the movie. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things that we're talking about.
We're going to talk about whether or not Pete Hegseth is the ideal alpha male figure of masculinity in this country. Pablo Torre. Pablo Torre is doing it all right now.
Yeah, Pablo Torre ran a poll. and ask people who their male role models are.
Wow.
And Pete Hicks is not going to like the results.
He's not going to like this. And then we're going to talk about the Free Elizabeth Holmes guy from the movie. Oh, my God. Yeah.
The guy with the company Just Blood because he has said that he's suing... Nathan Fielder and the makers of You Can See Everything.
Oh, this is the best thing that ever happened to him. That's the best thing that ever happened to him.
He also did say the movie is an 11 out of 10. Oh, he loved it.
Please go watch it.
I'm a huge fan.
The movie where I'm suing people. You're getting sued.
I wonder if he really, I mean, yeah. Well, I can't wait to talk about this attempt. Fine. All of that, plenty more. But first, we do like to ask our guest. Hi.
Hi.
Artem, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Okay, I looked up Elizabeth Holmes' baby daddy coke head.
Now where did that come from?
Yeah.
So for anybody who hasn't seen You Can See Everything. Maybe it's a spoiler.
He just, he sniffs a lot.
He sniffs a lot.
And he's, and he's, he seems tense.
Paranoid.
Yeah.
He looks like he needs a little shoulder up.
Yeah.
Yeah. He goes, there's a, for, so this is kind of spoiler. If you want, skip ahead. Just, you know, we're going to say something about it. Five, 10 minutes.
The movie skips ahead a couple of years and he goes from, I mean, he always like does seem like he's just like, Hey, it's kind of, you know, big, big eyes to being a full lizard guy who's constantly sniffing and like loves guns.
I did notice in the first scene, there was a lot of tongue darting. I was like, like, I almost, I don't know if he was lying or not. I don't, I mean, I don't see him like where you're like, but I noticed like a tongue dart, like a, There was like a lizard tongue that was early on.
Oh, really? So he had the lizard inside him already.
They were starting, but the sniff wasn't happening. But there was like a... Look, and to be fair.
He's probably doing gummers, so he didn't have any drip. Sure, sure. Like a pro.
Oh, what's that?
I don't know. You rub the cocaine on your gums.
Oh, right, right.
I only know it from the movies when they test the cocaine and rub it on their gums.
Well, I also wonder, like, to be fair to him, like, his wife was about, the mother of his children was about to go to, like, who wouldn't be stressed? And who knows what quirky things I do? But I noticed in the beginning there was a tongue thing. And then, and then there was a sniffing that started to happen.
And lizards. Like, was he a cocaine lizard? Yeah. Cocaine lizard. Cocaine lizard. The new movie coming out.
I love that movie. It's like cocaine bear.
Cocaine bear. Cocaine lizard.
Well, yeah, it was like, all like his personality couldn't have gone in a more cocaine direct.
Yeah.
So like, yeah, if if it was just sniffing, but he was like the same, yeah, wouldn't have been quite as notable, noticeable. But he I'm surprised you don't have like a young Asian guy in a silk robe throwing firecrackers randomly like that.
We just.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Alfred Molina.
Yeah. Coming out. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
That was the tensest scene.
Yeah.
The most incredible... That movie's so good.
It's fucking crazy. That movie is so good. It feels like that's where Billy was headed, though, for sure. Yes, Billy, Billy. Like, with loose guns and lizards around his head.
Do you remember the King of Kong? Wasn't the villain in that Billy as well? The guy that.
Yeah, the video game guy?
Yeah, when he was, like, did, like, hot stuff.
The subject, yeah.
Yes, and the villain had the... He had the American flag tie, like the guy that would go rig it that he lost to in Lake Winnipesaukee when they would go play King Kong.
Yeah.
It was like Billy something was the villain.
Yeah.
Yes, yes. Billy Mitchell.
Billy Mitchell.
Donkey Kong.
And he would wear his, yeah, so Billy's like sort of a fun villain.
Yeah.
He's got his American flag tied.
He's not, not cokie.
Yeah.
He has a little bit of a cocaine energy. Billy's a great name for a bad guy. For how feathered his hair is, you got to be doing cocaine.
Oh, yeah.
Take care about your hair like that. Like, I can see you like, fuck, man. It's not fucking wispy enough. Fuck. Start over. I'm going to fucking wash it out.
I'm going to wash it out and start over. All right, here we go.
All right, get in the shower.
We're starting over.
Billy, you got this, Billy.
You got this, Billy.
The amount of cocaine that's been consumed right next to a blow dryer. Yeah. Stresses me out, you know? He's a pro. It's in a bullet, dude.
He's in a pro.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow. What's a bullet?
Miles knows all the cocaine. It's like a, it's like a cheeky little vial that you put powder in.
I've seen that.
I've seen that.
I've seen that. That's fun.
Yeah. Anyways, shout out to Billy.
Shout out, Billy.
And you're a big fan of his, right?
Huge fan. I was like, single? Yeah.
Wait, so they never got married?
Loves wallpaper and cats. Huge fan of Christmas movies. Yeah, interesting.
You are one of the great wallpaper havers. Yes.
Agree. I agree.
No, you have to agree.
I agree.
You do great work. Anyone who's seen the wallpapers in Narns, there's no way you could come out of there and be like.
Look, here's my tip. Just the tips, guys. Here's the tip. You got to like pick and choose. You have to have one main area that has it and then you hide it. So like, because the overall effect has to be calm in your house. So like the other rooms, because I don't have many doors in between because it's a 1920s little house. So like the walls around it are solid of artwork. But then when you get in pockets, you get like a little power room, like then you get an explosion or you round the bend and it looks like it's a solid room. And then you get in and around the corner on the ceiling, like you got to have it be generally calm, but then you hide and you have.
A pop, pop, pop. surprise. Right, right, right. Not like how, yeah. Boom, got you. Boom, I got you. And you do hide in the room.
Yeah, I got you. I got you.
You fucking idiot. Hey, why do you come over here?
Yeah, you idiot.
You didn't know.
I was coming.
You should see the look on your face.
You're such a dumbass. I fucking got you.
Blew your fucking head off. Yeah, yeah.
What?
I blew your mind. I wallpapered your mind, son.
Yeah yeah you yeah how you like me now hey you left arden's party pretty early yeah oh i.
Got you i got you your life is ruined.
Every moment you get fake shooting me in the head with a finger gun boom you weren't expecting that dude your shit's everywhere it's on the ceiling boy come on son look at Oh.
You thought this was just a dark green room, honey?
The coroner came in, they go, oh, he must have used his toes, is what they're going to say. What?
Well, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
All of us should say you have tremendous wallpaper.
Thanks, guy. Thank you.
What is something you think is underrated?
Being a night owl. I'm a night owl. And I feel like the world is like, oh, rise and grind, rise and grind. You want to know when you can grind? Coquette or not. Dead at night. Dead at night. Guess what? They're just asleep. Like, I get so much shit done. The witching hour?
Yeah.
I haven't.
I am fun. I'm in a good mood. I don't care what happened that day. I'm making moves. Things are happening. That wallpaper is not going to put itself up.
I get shit.
And then, but like the shame you feel when you're like, why can't you do it at night?
Yeah.
Like, and everybody, there's something like, oh, you sleepyhead. It's like, yeah, because I was up getting things done till four. So like, yeah, I slept. But I think being a night owl is underrated and that a lot of magic and creativity happens at night and that the world really rewards early birds. And I envy it, but I'm not genetically an early bird.
And I think there's a lot of fun in being a night owl. And I wish there was a little more room for us in society.
But I think we are, we underrate them because some of the most important work are being done by people on graveyard shifts.
Yeah.
You know what I mean? Like, when you really need something, guess who's there for you? The people working graveyard shifts.
I saw some head nods over there. There's some night owls at that, right?
What's your average sleep time?
I mean, honestly, if I really let my body do its thing, perfect scenario, like, 3 a.m. would be.
3 a.m. go to bed. That's perfect.
11 a.m.
Wake up.
I feel really happy. I feel really, really joyful from, like, 10 to 3.
Wow.
And I'm... I'm not tired at all.
Yeah, yeah.
And it doesn't matter how tired I've been all day.
You just like that time of day. I'm like, this is where.
I do stuff. It's chemically... My parents brought me to the Yale Sleep Clinic when I was 15. Like, I am just an owl. Oh, wow. I am a night owl. And it's like, I feel optimistic. I feel.
That was Yale's discovery. They're like, night owl.
They said she's a nocturnal... Like, I'm a nocturnal creature.
Yeah.
And like.
That's incredible.
I'm focused. I feel... chemically settled like I my anxiety is like if I I try to go to bed so if I wake up in the middle of the night that's different that's different that I'm like oh but if I'm just like you know what I'm gonna be who I am I feel great do you guys agree because I see some head nodding.
Yeah we got some night owls have you always been that way super producer Justin super producer show of hands how many guys play video games late at night There we go.
All right.
Like me.
Do you feel like the world doesn't, like the world, like, and it's hard because I feel like it's, I try to get up because I judge myself through the world's eyes. And it's a daily struggle where no matter what time I go to bed, it's going against my body clock. So I will try to get sleep, but I've never once woken up refreshed. The only time I feel refreshed is at night. Do you agree?
Okay.
Okay.
So you don't need much sleep.
Yes.
I can, no, I got four last night. I feel great right now. Like, okay, great.
Doing what?
Doing what?
I got a lot of travel I'm doing starting this week.
I'm still working on that.
Go see the latest showing.
And did you feel good? Like when you were up, like was your body, like you felt like yourself the best person?
I didn't want to go to bed.
That's what I'm saying. And then.
Arden's about to start a cult right now.
I feel like it's underrated. Like, I feel like it should be... Look, I'm not shaming the morning... I wish I was an early bird. I'm not. But all my magic, my creativity, my creative ideas... That's.
When they happen.
They happen at night. And I wish there was a little more room and flexibility. I feel like I would have done better in school.
Yeah.
Like... Yeah, yeah. They always say that. Especially teenagers.
For real. Yeah.
Start school later.
Like, a lot later.
You.
Yeah.
You said something like.
Feeling, being up late and feeling like, oh, I'm getting this shit done and nobody and everybody else is asleep.
That's the thing you always hear from morning people. Morning people are always like, I like, you know, my good friend Mark Wahlberg. He's a little annoying about this because he wakes up at three in the morning and is like, and then I'm up for eight hours before anybody else wakes up.
Which I get. I kind of envy that. Like, I wish I was that.
But you're also up when everybody's asleep and you're getting shit done too.
I know, but there's the world looks at you like you're lazy. Exactly. Or they judge. I feel that there's judgment.
Justice for night out.
Yeah.
But I think we got to know, the one thing I think we can all agree on is the world doesn't know shit. So, fuck what they think.
That's right.
Do your night owl thing. The fucking world survives off of night owls.
That's correct.
And people doing that shit. So, the rest of us can fucking go to sleep.
Yes, I agree.
Yeah. I agree. Any more, like, great works of art were created, like, in the morning or late at night?
Late at night.
Definitely late at night.
It's gotta be late, right?
Obviously late at night.
But we let the people who, like, make these decisions and, like, make this case to people, we let them tell us like they have all the sayings about like you wake up early bird.
Gets the worm yeah um fuck ben frank you know what i was just thinking what do you do kept your ass in france the thing i'll tell you one thing i i thought of this in the middle of the night yeah it doesn't mean anything okay it's a stupid just word pun i just.
Thought of oh good critical base fleary Okay. Because Flea plays bass.
Bless you.
Yes. And that could be an album that Flea puts out called Critical Bass Fleary.
I like that.
Anyway.
You had a vision.
That's something I came up.
With 3 a.m.
Ago.
You had a vision.
Critical Bass Fleary. Then went back to bed.
I had a vision for a Halloween costume this morning. And it's Trailer Swift, where it's like a Trailer Park Taylor Swift.
That's really fun. That's easy. Yeah.
You know, SNL, like they, Lorne Michaels insists on like keeping these weird hours that some people are like, this is bad for me. I'm a morning person. And like, why do we have to write this at two in the morning? And his theory is like, this makes sense to me.
Yeah.
Like when you are sleep deprived, it's the equivalent of like having a couple of drinks.
Yes.
So you get looser. Yeah.
The ideas that are held back by your conscious mind, your conscious mind is now too tired.
Yes.
Like that is what I would say. Like I probably at this point in my life do better work in the morning because like at night I'm like kind of worn down by the day. And so like I have children. I do have children.
And you have to. And I think that like. I actually think you have natural biology. That's healthy.
Yeah. I think I've become a morning person because of kids.
That's what I wish.
My mom was a night owl.
She was.
Is she a blast?
Yeah.
I mean, she's just like a, she's just all her, like, like you, her prime work hours are like midnight to three. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't. And I, by the way, I don't do it because of shame.
Like, sure. Sure.
But like, I was the most fun kid at a slumber party, the most fun kid at camp. I kill it on a night shoot. Like I've worked with people. They call it. So my last name is Marine. It looks like my name, but I'm Arden Marine. And then they would call me Wolf Marine. Like when we would do like, I, I get crazy and I feel like it's like my full real person, like my little rascal.
But so, and I, and I think I'm harder on myself in the morning, like mentally. Yeah. I'm in a good mood. I'm good spirited. I'm not like, I'm not grouchy, but I think I'm, hard on myself where I think it's, I'm less optimistic.
That's like a sleep through that part of the day.
I think that's my, that's my underrated.
It's a fantastic underrated, fantastic search history. Uh, but, Surely you can't have a fantastic overrated.
I don't know. This is a small one. I think matcha is overrated. I don't get it. I don't like the taste of it. I feel like it tastes like grass. I feel like they've made it really fancy. I don't naturally love avocado toast either, but I eat it and I like it. But I just like toast in general, so it's hard to mess up toast. So you put anything on toast?
Yeah, you're like, yeah, fine, avocados. Yeah, great.
I mean, I like an avocado toast, but I think I like most toast.
Yeah, well, now matcha, like, the version that Americans drink now, there's so much other shit.
Like, you want a banana creme brulee matcha?
I think it's that. What the fuck is this? I think it's, like, when I'm talking about, like, the TikTok version of what matcha is, where I'm, like, like, I don't... I don't, when they were like, I got to go get my match.
And I'm like, I'm like, no, you need to get your milkshake because you're still a child. That's what it is.
You need your Yoplait, honey.
Well.
Okay, no, no, sorry.
I'm not one for kids. Okay, sorry. So I will just have you know, Arden.
Oh, he's touchy about it. He's delicate.
He brought this up on our Monday morning episode. Mm-hmm.
I respect that.
He asked, is Yoplait a children's yogurt? I asked him straight up. And I went, And he went, there, you did it. I fucking knew it. You took a breath. But is that a bad thing? No, it was just more because I was trying to get conclusive evidence I could take back to Her Majesty. Like, Jack agrees with me.
Arden agrees with me. Sophia agrees with me. Blake Wexler agrees with me.
No, but they've not. I do not think of it as a children's yogurt.
It's fine.
I think of it as, you know what it is? It's just not.
It's not refined. I paused. I gave up immediately.
It's not a children's yogurt. I think it's yogurt. I think it's everybody's yogurt.
I'm going to say on matcha, no other food has the color doing more work.
That's right.
It's a fine color. It's a pretty color. It's a good green.
It's a nice gray color. It's beautiful. most of the job of having matcha is carrying the green cup around with you.
You're right. And it's a performative drink.
Yes, it is. But in a good way because I think it's beautiful.
But it's also like.
It looks better than.
Because you do see people work the fuck out of their matcha too.
And I'm like, are you drinking it? It's doing a great impression of me drinking a matcha.
It's not you.
It's like.
Swallow it first before you speak.
Yeah. The mouthful of matcha.
There's a, like, just, there's always, like, oh, there's a straw, there's, like, adding in my matcha. Like, I don't know.
Honestly, yeah.
I like an acai bowl, but that is almost like having an ice cream sundae is fun, because it's, because it's, it's like a dessert bowl.
Right, yeah.
It's like a soft serve, and you can add in, like.
You think matcha's the new acai? I. But it's going the direction of the acai?
I think so.
I think it already is. Is acai as, like, Are the supplies as sort of... Plentiful? Yeah. Are they bountiful? Because matcha, it's not unlimited. It's not an inexhaustible ratio.
I think maybe while we're getting served might not actually be matcha.
You know what I mean?
But it's just like.
If any time it's like... Because there's so many companies.
Yes.
When I traveled to Japan, I kind of loved it. It's ground up no-dos with like.
No, I'm talking about like... I'm talking about... you know, strip mall.
Yeah.
What's Starbucks is matcha.
That's what I'm talking about. It's the performative.
Yeah.
It's the, wait a minute. Like I bet if I had real matcha, which I never have, I bet I would like it.
It's funny. Cause in Japan, like Japanese Starbucks, when I was there last time, like in April, it The matcha thing, the offerings weren't like how they were here. Yeah. They have more like straight up, honest, like this is a weird child flavor drink where it'd be like gingerbread cake with strawberry icing. And it's like not even mentioning coffee.
I'm dying to go.
Like, we know you want something sweet.
By the way, they're right.
Yeah.
I want it. I want everything.
If it's like that, then great.
That's next on my list.
Yeah.
I will say. Yeah. because I am a bit of a, like, caffeine, you know, I pay a lot of attention to caffeine content, and, like, I've gone through phases where I'm, like, trying to cut back, and I switched to matcha from coffee for, like, six months during the pandemic. And? And it is, like, a better...
It's a better caffeine. Caffeine.
I mean, look.
Like, it's less crash.
I'll tell... I mean, look, caffeine has worked against me sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
Caffeine has made me really... Yeah, caffeine has.
Been, like, Jittery.
Jittery.
Yeah.
And like, kind of like, like, I don't know. Things aren't going to work out.
You know what I mean?
Like, I had a good run. I don't know. Should I get my real estate license and move into my brother's basement?
I could be a therapist.
Yeah. I guess I could be my brother's ward. Yeah.
My brother's ward.
Yeah.
I could be my brother's ward.
Sure. Caffeine is edgy.
No, no, you're right. Like, how do you make your matcha?
So I was ordering it from Starbucks.
I was getting it delivered in a tiny little, I think it was authentically Japanese. It had Japanese writing on it. It was in a little white container. I would like scoop it out with the little matcha spoon, little Coke spoon.
Bamboo whisk. Yeah.
Bamboo whisk. And then I tried doing the bamboo whisk. Did not work. And then I got like a hand thing that you.
Just put in. I was like, and then I would drink it.
And you put it in what water?
Yes. Water. Yeah. Hot. Yeah. Because otherwise it like clumps up.
And you don't, do you put just water?
That's what I did. And now you're thinking like an American who saw matcha for the first time and go, and so what? You just drink that with just water and you go, hmm, maybe I could put like strawberry.
I mean, that's what I'm thinking of.
How many scoops of ice cream?
I think it's like the TikTok girl performative.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
To my overrate, I think it's a like, You know what it is?
It's the Americanized version of Macho.
I think I'm realizing because I am mesmerized by these beautiful videos that people can make. Hats off to everybody who can make these cool videos where they are the lead character. And I'm like, wow, how did you know how to edit and make that? I guess it's more the, wow, I was a late bloomer and a weird kid. And How I'm thankful though that I didn't grow up knowing so clearly nationwide what I'm supposed to... Like, okay, this is the right kind of bag. This is the right kind of.
Right.
That everyone's kind of elegantly looks the same.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm like.
Algorithms have funneled people into these three versions.
And they do a really good job. And I'm like, wow, they know how to put an outfit together in their house. But there's something so... And they do a really good job, and I'm impressed by it. And I get sucked in. I like watching it. But there's something so... I can't believe even as an adult that didn't grow up, I'm like, I am a lemming for like, I guess I'm supposed to do that. And so I think for me, maybe that's what's overrated is my own capacity to be To be manipulated. Yeah.
Sure, sure. It's scary. So this is what we're doing now? Yeah.
And then it works on me. And then it actually works. So it's like.
Next time I see you, you got like three. I've got like a whole holster. Yeah.
But you're like, I guess it's the summer. I got to go get an anklet again.
And I did.
And you're like, but it's just how I'm easily manipulated. I guess that's what, that's what's overrated.
Yeah.
We talk about the death of the monoculture, but there is still a lot of monoculture out there. There's just different kinds. Now there's like 20 monocultures. But you can tell who... It's so funny. Even when I look at stuff just with vloggers, some people have this exact same kind of Japanese poster in the background. Because on Instagram, there were a couple accounts that were like, vintage Japanese posters.
And I'm looking at it.
I'm like, this shit just says Fuji in Japanese. But they're like, it looks cool. But it's like become so ubiquitous. And I see the background. I'm like, I've seen this 50 times because everyone is like, well, if this is the Japanese vintage poster I buy, it's from this thing.
And it makes me and then I love design. And, you know, I just love looking at different interiors. I love art direction. I love hotel. I just like seeing different designs. And there's this one Italian couch. It's so beautiful. Like I'm susceptible. I'm like, oh, if I put that couch in my house, I could get in a magazine.
It's like, it's like, it's super expensive. It's that beautiful couch. You guys might have it. I'm sorry. It's like that. But it's like that one with the tufting. It's like the Bosch.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like it's got like a metal frame. It's really expensive. It's sort of vintage. And it's great looking. But it's like every magazine cover has that. It's like if I have that couch, then it's okay. I almost like it's the coolest thing just to have like 15 Barka loungers and be like, this.
Is my, but you know what it is because everyone kind of arrives at the same thing. Like, well, there are only three chairs that are worth having in my house because the same influencers are posting it. And then people, you look at me like, well, like anytime I go into a place and I'm like, whoa, this place is kind of cool because they're not doing the shit I've seen sort of shoved down your throat through repetition on social media.
So I guess I'm calling out overrated my own susceptibility. I'm mad. I'm mad that I can be twisted.
It works.
You can manipulate me.
I don't like that. You are twisted.
Yeah, boy.
You're like a real world joker.
I'm a real world joker.
Let's take a quick break. Let's do it. And we will be right back. And we're back. We're back. And it's time to get to the news. Yeah, yeah. One of my favorite influencers, Pablo Torre. One of my favorite content creators. He's now given us so many investigations.
Do you know Pablo Torre?
He's wonderful. He's, yeah, just a culture writer. He's a journalist. He's the Upton Sinclair of 2020. Okay, I see what you're saying. He's our Upton Sinclair.
Okay, you love him.
Yeah, he's amazing.
He's the one who exposed the Clippers for having done illegal shit.
Of course you know about that, don't you? Oh!
Don't even get me started. You don't want to see this side of me. Don't get me started.
On Balmer?
Genie.
Buss?
Buss?
There you go. Different team.
Yes. Jay Moore.
Yes. There we go. So right now, he's been having all kinds of wins. He exposed the Tim Tebow thing recently.
What did Tebow do?
Just like weird Christian organization, scam organizations that he's involved with.
Is he a virgin still?
No, I hope not or whatever. Do whatever you want to do. But he just did a survey along with the bulwark and they surveyed around 1,400 Americans to get an idea across the board of what Americans thought of male role models or culture war topics like trans athletes or sports gambling and things like that. Gender writ large in the world of sports and culture.
Sure.
Just anything. Just to be like, where are people at in breaking it down between men or women?
Okay.
Trump voters or Kamala Harris voters. So I ripped the bandaid off. Where did I come in on the list? Yeah. So when it came to who America thought was a legit manly role model, the results will most likely piss off alpha man, secretary of war, Pete Hegseth, who's basically spent the last 20 months trying to prove how much of a man he is. It's almost like his... end goal like on his vision board was this yeah yeah when they think Captain America they fucking think of me yeah yeah yeah you fucking think the goat of American men it's me bro he's definitely like gone into some reddit uh boards and been like oh you know who might be a good Captain America.
Yes you know he wants to recreate that like uh the the The topless on the horse, Russian.
Oh, yeah. The Putin on the horse. Just ripped.
You know he wants to do that.
Oh, yeah. Look, he's trying it all. I mean, here's the deal.
Putin on a horse.
Putin on a horse.
Putin on a horse.
Putin on a horse.
Putin on a horse. So only this is from the bulwark quote only 28% of only 28% of American adults said they viewed Hegseth as.
A strong role male role model for American men compared with 39% who did it. He's underwater, Miles. Looking at just 18 to 29-year-olds, only 18% viewed Hegseth as a strong role model compared to the 34% who did not. But he's been saying no fatties, no beardos, no weirdos in the military, only macho men. He did pull-ups on TV.
How is this not happening?
But question, what's the rest of the percents?
Other ones who have not thought about that at all. Other people just go, what? Which I think I would be in that category. I'd be like, wait, what? I'm like, okay, if you're asking me, hell no. But I think other people just don't know enough to have an opinion. That would also account for a lot of that huge gap. Respect.
The person who finished at the bottom, though, was his employer. Donald Trump with 55%. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah. They said he's not a strong male role model.
Wow.
But he has an authority on manliness because he keeps talking about those guys' asses and stuff. Yeah, yeah. He's an authority on men's asses.
He keeps talking about a lot of asses.
He does keep talking about a lot of asses. It looks like a pile of muscle back there. A pile of muscle? Also, that's not hot.
Wait, who did he say that about?
He said that about John Husted, who's running for Senate. About the ass? He kept talking about his ass. It was like a big pile of muscle back there. Yeah. Yeah. He can't stop.
And then he actually had an amazing line.
I knew that Nicki Minaj showed him that ass.
So he, yeah, he said, yeah.
And he loves, he's an ass man. What did he say?
Like quite an amazing, what did he say? So then he was talking about, he was telling this story to a Texas crowd. and was like, I said he had a great ass, and he immediately shot up like 15 percentage points, and he's winning now, which isn't true. Not true.
This is crazy.
But then he was like, maybe I should say the same thing about Ken Paxton, although I don't think the physicality justifies it. Oh, wow. He hates Ken Paxton. He always keeps saying how ugly Ken Paxton is behind the scenes.
This is so crazy.
He's such a mean girl. He's such. I could say, but he looks like a bakery at the end of the day because there's no cake there.
Okay.
Anyway, but this list is so kind of funny. You want to know who is ranked the top? Who? Matthew McConaughey.
Okay.
Now, this was, they gave them options. It's not like, it's not like organically America was like Matthew McConaughey, but Matthew McConaughey.
He's a cowboy.
He's at plus 33 points. like in terms of his net sort of strong approval, then Barack Obama right after him. Okay. Then LeBron James.
Okay.
Then Travis Kelsey.
Okay.
And so after Kelsey... I mean, there's all those songs about him having... Yeah, big hog. Big hard dick. Right, right, right. Thanks, Trailer Swift. Trailer Swift. Surprised that This is where it gets funny, though. So this is where it now... So those are the people who are in the net positive. Okay.
Now we get to the minuses. Uh-oh. First up, with a minus two net approval, Gavin Newsom. Okay. Makes sense.
Okay.
Then... His voice is so deep.
He talks like this.
He talks like the cookie monster.
Uh-huh.
Overcompensating the weirdest way. Hey, how you doing? I'm the recruiter. He's like, what the fuck is this? His voice is, like, weirdly, like, gravelly. It's gravelly. He's trying to do, like... Shitty Batman. I don't know, man. It's a little more like... I love Charlie Kirk.
Voice alteration is so wild.
I know, right? Then Joe Rogan, minus four. Whoa. He's not going to like that yet. He's underwater.
He's not going to like that.
Then Hexeth. Then Donald Trump.
Wow. Joe Rogan is... Who did they... Oh, Nogan? Yeah, that's a surprise.
Yeah another guy who yeah his whole thing is built on talking about like.
I do cold plunges i'm bow hunting i fucking i just say shit about trans people where'd they go to the fucking dsa to ask this question come on exactly he's the manliest man.
Joe rogan is a brick of muscle that could sit on this table could stand up on this table and look me.
Eye to eye with that ass yeah with that pile of muscle that pile of That pile of overgrown organs from HGH and whatever the fuck, you know, peptides and shit.
He's going to live forever.
Yeah. Oh, man. Forever being about 10 more years. The rate at which he's generating new organs.
What are peptides? And I know besides GLP-1s, right? But like, what else when people are like, I'm on peptides, like not.
Just for weight loss. My brain turns off when people say that. What is it?
What are they? What are they supposed to do aside from weight loss?
Is it related to Pepsod?
Like, what do they help with?
I only know it as muscle growth. Oh, okay. Is it like a shot? there's so many kinds. So it's like, it's, they're just amino acids, but there are just certain ones. You're like, I take this peptide for this. I met somebody, I met like a, you know, Silver Lake Echo Park person. Right. Who was so like the peptide, like just freaked me out with how much they were talking about peptides.
Yeah.
I know.
I've heard a lot about peptides and I literally, I actively, that's why I felt safe to ask you. Cause I don't know what it is.
And you could tell I didn't. So I wasn't going to like, I don't know.
Do you guys know what peptides are?
I do know the, like, fat, like the DLP.
But then, like, I understand, but I'm like, what is it for the other stuff?
Yeah, it just feels like whenever there's a wonder drug, they try to be like, and it might also cure this.
Okay, okay. It might make you like, just this is how Harvard Medical School calls it. Peptides are the building blocks of proteins that play key roles for health, but the benefits and risks of supplementing with injectable peptides, which are popular in social media, are largely unknown.
Yeah.
So it's just a very, it's like a new thing where they're like, oh, fucking, this one's good for my immune system. This one's good for my hormones.
I don't want to shoot. Let me look. Live and let live.
Not for you.
I don't like needles.
Yeah, yeah. Great.
Question though. Can you take pills of peptides?
I think they are. I think they are developing a pill version. I think there are pill versions out there.
I've had so many people like, you got to take peptides. I mean, but yeah.
And what do they look like? Do they look like half rotten zombies?
No, they're like, my hair looks great. My hair's growing. You got to take peptides. My hair's so healthy.
I'm like, It wasn't... Oh, it's for hair? It can be anything. I'm saying they have all kinds of ones.
I have to say, I touched the hair and it felt really healthy.
It felt really good?
I feel like my skin looks great. I got my hair looks great. I'm like, okay.
And you are friends with RFK Jr.
She's my best friend. You know what? I love a guy that works out in jeans and a sauna.
Thank you.
That on an old.
Talk about a real role model.
That.
I was like, what is happening in the... Gene's in a sauna on a 1962 exercise bike with Ken Rock.
You know he works out with one of those things that jiggles you. The belt that just shakes you.
It's so like, I don't want to find it funny because it's so dangerous, but I'm like, what is this? I thought, oh, this is like a bit. Somebody made this and used his image. I'm like, no, he made this and posted it.
He thinks that's cool. That's the thing with all these fucking guys. That's so crazy. They have such a... outsized image of themselves.
It's so crazy.
And then they go on the real world and people are like, no.
Dude, this is incredible.
The poll also showed, I just want to point this out, that most respondents in America don't know shit about trans athletes in sports.
Okay.
The results show that 15% of American adults think that between 1 and 5% of NCAA athletes are transgender. 14% thought it was between 6 and 25%. Okay. Are trans?
Yes.
Again, this is what the trans panic has done to people's minds because it's... But.
Six and 25 is a pretty wide.
Yeah, yeah.
Six is much different than 25.
I think that's just... That was the groupings.
That was the groupings.
But some people were like, it's got to be six and 25. I mean, the amount that we talk.
The amount that I talk about it, it's got to be six and 25 for.
How worried my community group is about it.
Again.
Inaccurate numbers. Quote, in December of 2024, NCAA President Charlie Baker told Congress that fewer than 10 of the NCAA's more than 500,000 athletes were transgender. 10%? 10 human beings of 500,000.
500,000?
That's not. That's what we're talking about here. Far less than 1%. And then Trump came into office. And as we all know, the NCAA was like, okay, well, then we're just going to restrict women's competitions to cisgender women. So, yeah, it's just... Also, they also talked about, like, how likable certain sports presenters were. It had kind of all kinds of stuff.
Who did this?
This is the same Pablo Torre Bulwark survey that went out there.
Okay, how likable they are?
Yeah, certain like presenters like Stephen A. Smith or Charles Barkley.
Okay, who?
I bet Charles Barkley, he's very likable. We've got Dave Portnoy. Joe Rogan, Dana White, Pat McAfee, and Stephen A. Smith and Barkley on there.
Barkley's number one.
Barkley's got to be number one. Barkley is number one.
With a fucking bullet. If you don't love Barkley, you got a problem.
Yeah, there's something wrong with you. Which is funny, too. For how he kind of takes stands every now and then on culture war stuff, I think it's just how folksy he'll say it.
And his voice is so cute. Come on, man. Leave them alone. And his voice is cute.
His voice is adorable.
His voice is cute.
Did you see the clip? of him where they were trying.
So at the beginning of every NBA season, they do a quiz where they show him a player and see if he can say what team they're on.
Oh my God, that's so cute.
And he got every single one wrong.
That's so cute.
But then they go through a second time and give him the same questions after they've already given him the answers.
Still wrong.
And he got like four of them wrong.
Good for him.
Good for him. He's a star. Let him live. He's a star.
He's icons only.
So in terms of net positivity, Charles Barkley, plus 27. Dana White comes in second with plus 6%. Pat McAfee in third with plus 3. Now we get into the negatives. Portnoy, negative 1. Rogan, minus 2. Stephen A. Smith, who's all crack, minus 6. Maybe he shouldn't run for president. Or maybe he should. The very bottom of the pile for this question.
Yeah.
Is the actual president of the United States. So Charles Barkley, please start saying some stuff about inequality. Um, you know, not exactly. Yeah, I know his lane, not his lane.
No.
Okay. Start saying stuff about throwing people through windows because you were goaded into it by a group of women. He's really good at.
Yeah.
All right. Let's take a quick break and we will come back and talk about, uh, free Elizabeth Holmes. My favorite charity. We'll be right back. And we're back.
We're back.
And so we're all people who have seen, you can see everything. So we can speak like adults here. And this isn't really a spoiler alert.
No, no. I won't spoil anything.
No, but even just this story of the person involved. Yeah, yeah.
So the guy behind the Free Elizabeth Holmes movement, which does feature in the documentary.
That's the inventors? Theinventors.com. Yeah.
Which was a series of billboards that was all over Los Angeles.
It's not cheap to get billboards.
Is it really expensive to get billboards?
It's expensive, yeah.
In LA, too. It's expensive. They were in Times Square and shit.
Weren't they? He's got money. He's got funding somehow. Or he's got credit card debt.
Sure.
Can you imagine all that on credit cards?
He should ask Regal to co-sign.
That's... I do have some questions about how real his money is that come up during this story. But so he started the Free Elizabeth Holmes, the company Just Blood. And he's threatening to sue Nathan Fielder and A24 for referring to him as a kook. And you can see everything. NBC interviewed him.
Ryan El-Hassani, who they interviewed him inside a private plane at an airfield in New Jersey. Now, I'm like, NBC, did you do your due diligence and watch that plane take off? Yeah, yeah. Because I can get you in a private plane. Oh, yeah. I want a private plane for an hour.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, right.
200 bucks an hour. I get influencers coming in here all the time to do photoshoots. I'll let them drive it right up to the journalist and then drive it away slowly. That's a lot of gas.
Yes, that's all of Raya.
Yeah, exactly. Oh, there are a lot of fake jet people?
Yeah, there's a lot of private plane photos. I mean, I'm not on Riot now, but I have been in the past. And it's like, you're not all of it. For what? Your job is like actor at self. You know what I mean?
Right, right, right.
You're a founder.
I don't know. I got a G5. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No big deal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he said that he'll take legal action against the filmmakers unless he gets an apology from Nathan Fielder.
Yeah. He also claimed that Elizabeth Holmes' blood testing technology is undisputed. There are many things he could have said that you could be like, all right, maybe there's like 1% truth. Undisputed. No. Is it category error? Exactly.
Wildly disputed. We've had a dispute. That's why she's in jail.
That's right. Undisputed. Undisputed. He really needs this to work. He's really, I mean, he's really firing. I didn't realize, too, his money comes from, like, from medical diagnostics already. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So, he's, like, at 20, I found, like, it sounds, I think he put, he paid PR Newswire, because you know how people are, like, oh, I don't know if this is public, this press release. Yes. It's, like, you submit it. You can just do a press release. Yes.
Yeah.
This is one that I just read from 2015 about him. It's business, not personal. When sons get to boss dads, and the other way around. Wait, what just happened? Wait, what? I think I'm having a stroke.
I don't mean to. I smell toes and taste pennies.
By Ryan Egypt El-Hosseini. He has a nickname. He has a... Oh, so this is a press release from him. This is from him. Oh. talking about himself. This is how he's been talking. So this is him in 2015. When does the middle child get to tell his dad what to do? For one family, it's in the office that such unique generational dynamics get to play out. Quote, actually, it is a collaborative effort, says Ryan Egyptel-Hosseini, newly appointed co-CEO of a family business. Why not name the company there? Oh my God. Because you're a little boy who just said, I'm going to do this and then I'm going to show people when I go on dates. Dad, look me up, honey.
We divide tasks at just 28. Entrepreneur, author, and now two-time CEO. I love when people write their own fucking... Two-time CEO. Ryan has usurped an opportunity to steer the family business at Access Medical Labs. He usurped it?
I just need to be panicked.
Sounds great. I don't know if you want to be known as a usurper, usually, but.
Just hearing something that somebody's heard about them... Look, we've all had to write bios, and it's brutal, and it feels terrible.
Yes.
But, like, we don't then do a press release about it. And we, like, let somebody, like, have.
Eyes on it. What are you talking about? This was written by.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell me if this sounds like it was written by me. Okay. Ryan, who also founded and runs international business consulting firm Rames Group, shares entrepreneurial advice in his stirring memoir. True and rich. Oh, we got to read it. His book reveals these things.
I would do a book club.
Unfortunately, we have to read that.
I would totally read it.
Well, you're about to get some bullet points. His book reveals these things. Quote, how a millennial millionaire can handle the generation gap when working with his father. How to implement a new vision without hurting the core business or family relations. What the new generation carries into the boardroom.
And what the older generation hopes remains there.
And this book should be subtitled, fuck you, dad, I win.
I know, right, exactly.
I'm like, older brother Greg, fuck you, older brother Greg.
I know, the emphasis on being the middle child is so funny.
Yeah, he said I couldn't do it, but look who's the big Egypt now.
Too bad you got hooked on Fent and you can't take over dad's business. So is that my fault?
Oh, everybody thought I was the heir of the sparrow. Well, look who's wearing the crown now, honey.
And the only thing that seemed real was how an Arab-American family has dealt with cultural bias in the business world. I'm like, oh, that's a real thing.
And then you have to give yourself the nickname Egypt. So, like, I can't imagine.
What's up? Hey, man, I'm Miles. Hey, dude. Egypt. Uh-huh.
Yeah.
I thought you said Ryan in your email address.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like my fucking American name.
Nobody takes me seriously. I'm Arden. High voice Marine.
I'm Arden of Hyrule.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that very... reliable narrator, um, has, uh, said that just blood.com tests were validated live at any guesses. Um, Yale's medical lab. Trump International Golf Club.
Oh, that's where I get my testing done. I love a golf course.
With scientists, lab directors, and medical technologies.
Melania did it.
What does that even mean?
The golf club.
He's capitalizing like Trump, too. With scientists, capital, lab directors, and medical technologies. Swish. So I don't know, man. Yeah. Pretty reliable. I mean, yeah, of course, when you're trying to prove like the veracity of your scientific claims, the first place you go to is Mar-a-Lago and then be like, yeah, dude, we did it live on fucking on kick.
Yeah.
We're on Rumble doing a live stream.
Yeah.
That's how we do it.
That's how we... This is how.
This is how we do it. So he's just saying, it's bullshit. This shit works. But also, I love the movie. Love what you did, man. Yeah, yeah.
He did also say, when asked what rating he would give the movie he's currently threatening to sue, he said it's an 11 out of 10.
I love your work.
I love your work.
Yeah.
I'm going to sue you. If you would just talk to me.
Yeah.
Put out an apology. Dude, narcissistic people like this are so funny.
Yes.
Where it's like, well, I have to make sure people see it because I'm in it.
Yeah.
There's no way I.
Can shit on the thing I'm in. So they have to talk that up. But also, I also got to be like, but he also made me look like fucking stupid.
I got to make that bang.
So hopefully I can get a settlement or something. He did. When I first saw those billboards, I was like, is this a Nathan Fielder thing? Sure. Like that was my thought was like, this feels like dumb Starbucks, you know? Yeah.
It's crazy.
It doesn't. And then the, so maybe he's like a fan. I thought it was Ben Zeno, the rapper. Yeah, it does look like Ben Zeno. Former editor of The Source magazine. I thought it was a washed rapper from the aughts. Like trying to like ride some kind of.
Oh, that's where Flo Rida went.
Yeah, you know what I mean? It feels like the kind of thing where like, because, you know, like rappers love business moguls. Was he a blood? I don't know.
Can we talk about Flo Rida for one second?
Yes.
What happened? I... Did something happen with you? No, I... So, my friend and I had Flow, and I said, we're Flo Rida. And then I put up a Flo Rida song. And then I... He had like 20 bangers.
Yeah.
And he's still touring. I looked him up. You can go see him in Paris recently.
I mean, that's who should be playing the Super Bowl.
Why is he not putting out... Because his songs are so... Where is he? I want another Flo Rida hit. What happened?
I wonder if he's at that point, he's like, I don't need to spend money recording new music if the shit I've already... There's so.
Many more than you think there are. There's so many more. If you keep going on the greatest, there's so many.
The greatest hits.
Of Flo Rida. There's more than you think. They're all bangers. They're going to get your party going.
He was the one who done the shit with David Guetta, right? Weren't there a couple of David Guetta tracks too? Yes, yes, yes. Maybe a collaborator?
Yes, yes.
Yeah, because that was also when he was also kind of getting that like dancey hip hop. Yes.
I'm just asking, come out or I want another, I want a new album.
You can't handle me. That's the David Guetta.
By the way, they had it down. They were aughts kings.
I know.
They were coming in hot in a boot cut. Gene, honey.
He got all billion spin songs.
Okay, sorry. That was my, sorry, I interrupted.
No, no, no.
But it is a fair question.
Yeah.
It's like, wow.
Why isn't Tarantino making his new movie? Why did, you know, some of our greatest artists just, like.
Stop in their 30s? Yeah, where'd they go?
Where'd they go?
You know, why? Where'd Flo Rida go?
Where'd Flo Rida go?
I saw something, I saw, I could have swear I saw a random-ass clip of Flo Rida where he was just, like, out and about, but just being very chill.
Yeah.
In, like, Europe. You're like, Flo Rida?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
It is I.
That's right.
It is I.
Huzzah.
It is the name you speak of.
John Rule had, like, a... He had like, aside from like the, you know, the, the festival, but he also, he put an album. He won a Grammy with like sting. They did like a collab and they won like a Grammy. There's people just doing crazy things.
Yeah.
Ja Rule did a collab with sting recently.
Yes.
Like a couple of years ago. And it won a Grammy.
Cause I was like, I mean, he never fails to surprise me.
Ja Rule keeps us on our toes.
Always. I mean, look. Am I making that up?
Is that a fact? Am I lying?
I wouldn't count Ja Rule up. He has never won a Grammy award.
He didn't make a collab with Sting?
Ah. Definitely not with Sting. Definitely not with Sting.
Okay.
Well, there you go. Never mind. I take it back.
Martin.
It's not the middle of the night.
Yeah, yeah. Such a pleasure.
Oh, my God. I had a really nice night.
Thank you for waking up to be here.
You guys, I'm up anyway.
Yeah.
But I put false eyelashes on.
I know. Thank you. And they look amazing. Look, we thought they were real. I know. Thank you. So credit to your eyelashes, your natural lashes as well.
Thank you.
Where can people find you, follow you, see you? Thank you for asking.
See me. Okay. You can follow me on Instagram. Arden Marine, M-Y-R-I-N. And then I am on TikTok somewhere.
Hey!
Somewhere. And then I'm going to be in Christmas with the Kringles that comes out nationwide in 1,800 theaters. And it's a little engine that could. So if you guys liked it, tell your friends because I truly... This did not have a big budget and it's really fun and we loved it. It's called Christmas at the Kringle. Super fun.
And then I am on the show Free Bert, which is a really fun show on Netflix. It's sort of like a Curb Your Enthusiasm about Bert Kreischer. And I play his wife. It's really good. And the second season drops in January. It's excellent.
I mean.
The writers did a great job. It's wonderful. And Bert really plays with his persona of, like, he allows the stuff that he's been made. Like, basically, the first season is, like, you just take your shirt off. Right, right. And so, like, so the opening scene is Rob Lowe hiring him for his birthday party. And, like, he takes his shirt off and he's like, ah, do it again. Like, he didn't care.
He made him do it, like, seven times. Right, right, right. And he like makes fun of like what people had called him out for. And he's like, he didn't even know I was a comedian. So Rob Lowe was like, you should just cut out all that other stuff. He's like the jokes. He's like, yeah, just get it. Just, just do that. Just do that. And so then he has like this life crisis. And then this season, I don't want to give away too much, but like, he's had this other real thing happen in real life. Um, maybe it's not too much, but like he's lost all this weight and like he's, was always the guy with the big, so it's like, and it really.
Who is he without his, it's like, like, like, and it's, and.
He's actually this family man. He loves his wife and they have this unconventional family. And, He's very loyal to her. They've been married for like 28 years. I play his real life wife who picked me. And it's like, but it's like kind of like a rated R family.
Whoa.
It's like a rated R family comedy. It's really funny. And the kids are great. And they actually really like each other. He like loves his wife, you know, like it's, it's funny. They did a really good job. So yeah, Check it out. I think it's a really fun show. It's a fast watch. It's six episode seasons. Free Bird.
Yeah.
That's actually, a lot of people don't know this, but when people are shouting.
Free Bird at a concert, they're actually saying, yeah, they're worried about him.
They're very worried about him.
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Well, thank you. I thought about this.
I thought about this.
You know what? This is not current, okay?
Okay.
Yeah. Is it Gak? Is it Nickelodeon?
No, you were saying you wanted like an Instagram thing, right? So I thought about what makes me happy. And there's one like, I love, I did not grow up with any like dance classes. So I love strong little girls that are dance, like powerful, like in their power, like, and like, like owning their strength. And so there was this, this video that came out last year that I texted to myself because I really love it. Cause I wanted to have a good answer for you guys. And this, and it's this girl and her friends and her dad makes like videos and they're these powerful girls and they're like 12 and they're just, but they're strong.
Like they're choreographed.
Yeah.
But they're like, they're, they're.
Hitting those moves.
They're good dancing. And they're like a little geezer, like cowgirls, but it's like, not like sexy. It's just strong. But it's, but it's like, they they practiced it they seem like they want to be doing it it was literally just because his daughter asked him and then this went viral like it was it looks like an actual music yes and he made the dad made it and it's like the girl it's his.
Daughter that's a pretty good filmmaker.
But yeah that's his but i just like that they're strong and free and like not ashamed and powerful and like Like they're dancing.
Like nobody's watching or dancing. Like everybody.
And it's like strength and power. Like it's like feminine and masculine and all of the things. They're like, I just like that. It's like, don't fuck with me.
Like, like a tough 12 year old girl.
And it's also, and I'm allowed to move my body. And if you feel weird about it, it's on you. I'm not like, it's not like, it's just in jeans and boots and little t-shirt. And they're like tough and practiced and strong. And I like that. There's like a confidence and a power and a pride in these like young, like tween girls and, That are like, what are you going to do about it?
Right, right, right.
I'm so strong in rehearse. I like it.
Yeah. Amazing. Wait, who is that? Did you say the account? No.
I'll tell you after. Okay, no, that goes against it. I think I guessed all of this. Oh, look at that.
Shout out whoever those little girls were. Impossible to know.
Guys, listen, I did the best I could. I actually, I answered your questions late last night. Amy Sedaris reposted it and it's underscore Ben Christensen.
Okay.
That's the dad.
Good, strong name. Ben Christensen.
Ben Christensen and Amy Sedaris is the one that I got it from.
Shout out Amy Sedaris.
Shout out Amy Sedaris.
Icon.
No notes.
I think one of the most underrated comedic people. From people who don't fuck with comedy, people don't realize. Amy Sedaris.
Follow Amy Sedaris. She posts great stuff. She reposts a lot.
Oh, yeah.
And her brother, I guess.
Too, David, who I think wrote a couple books.
Shout out Sedaris family. Some of my favorite content creators.
Those Greek freaks.
Well, they also talked about how their mom was, like, an indoor cat, that she would just stay up all night. Oh, really? Like, in his books, like, a lot of the magic was, like, this family of, like, night owls just prowling around in North Carolina. And he said that they were all, like, house cats because they would be up all night. The mom would be, like, chain-smoking. But it was just this fun group of, like, house cats staying up all night. And, like, that's, like, relate.
Of course. And you get these, like— The funnest people. Yes. The Sedera.
Thank you for letting me.
Thank you for waiting for me.
To find that.
You must go visit the Sedera for your answers. She's in her Jerry Blank makeup. Jerry Blank?
Are you kidding me? Jerry Blank.
So great.
So great.
Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media?
You!
Find me everywhere at Miles of Grey. I'm talking about 90 Day Fiancé on 420 Day Fiancé. I'm talking about soccer on Ain't It Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin.
Wow.
A work of media I like is from Aspen. Malcolm Sills, C-I-L-L-S. I'm going to play the audio here. I'm going to tap that in. Is that track armed there? Thank you, Josh. This video is called People Who Take Peptides. Oh. And I asked you because in his version of it, he has like a face filter on where he looks like he's like just peeing. decomposing in real time oh my god this is his version of this is his take on people who take peptides.
My skin has been glowing oh my god i feel so healthy you.
Don't care about your body you don't look at me man i'm on peptides fda approved what do you live.
In a matrix or something who cares everyone tells me i look like five years younger than i actually am this is what healthy looks like on me what does fda approved even mean like who cares about.
That What is it? No, I don't care. I'll put it in my body.
That's cool.
Wow.
Because it's exactly it.
What do you mean FDA approved? What are you living in the matrix? Oh my God.
That's so good. That's it.
What are you living in the matrix? Okay.
What is yours?
My work in media. One person, JBXDay, said, one thing I've noticed about Key and Peele, why did he have to have hair for this?
And it's just one of the many sketches where Michael Key has just incredible flowing hair and it has nothing to do with the sketch at all.
I get it. But it's like... I get it. Sometimes you got to play. Sometimes you need to know.
I was on Mad TV with them for four years, and I've seen that man in the wig room numerous times, honey.
He is a wig room all-star.
I have seen him rocking some wigs.
Oh, my God. And, you know, do they make the sketch funnier? They make him look fucking incredible.
I think man wigs always make a sketch funnier. I love a man wig.
Love a man wig.
And then I like this from Eric Allen Hatch. It's a genre that a lot of people were doing last weekend, but it's Nathan. Do you understand why this is scary?
Oh, my God.
Elizabeth, the girl is sick. Nathan. Sorta. The girl's head is on backwards and she says the priest's dead mother will perform fellatio for all eternity. Billy, listening to Mein Kampf at 3x speed, the 19th Amendment was a mistake.
Dude, then full frontal.
Then full frontal. And then full frontal. Full frontal. Oh my God.
Yeah.
That was Eric Allen Hatch on Twitter.
So good.
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Footnote. It's where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. Cool. Because what is a song that we think you might enjoy, Myles? Is there a song you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, this is from the MC Jay Gray. It's just one word, J-G-R-R-E-Y. UK MC, she's super dope. The track is called Bed Bug.
And if you like Griselda, you like that kind of like boom bappy, kind of like spooky sample type beat, this is a great one. But she's also like a fantastic lyricist and kind of singer. She's kind of doing it all on this track. So check this out. This is Bed Bug by Jay Gray, J-G-R-R-E-Y. We will link up to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye!
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