Whalefall Til You Ball, Strip Club Bouncers Needed 10.16.26

0:05 Wait, you're saying September 10th is the ideal day for decorations, you think? For Halloween decorations. Okay.

0:12 Yeah, might as well.

0:13 Versus doing October. Why not October 1st? It just gets busy, and then you forget about it, and then you're scrambling.

0:20 You've got to live with them, exist with them.

0:22 It's like two weeks to build buzz, and then you've got a month of full-on... October promotion. Oh, okay. I like the marketing. You got to have a ramp. You got to have a ramp window.

0:37 By October, it's Christmas in terms of marketing.

0:41 You know what's wild? So, Carmen, I took an Uber yesterday from the studio. When I got in, the dude who's driving had Christmas music on. And for the first second, I didn't say shit because I was vibing with it. And then I didn't even really notice because I love Christmas music. And he turned around and he goes, It's Christmas time, just so you know. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 460. 460, god damn. Episode 5 of the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. Also... The news is heavy.

1:26 Maybe you want to talk about some spooky shit. We'll check in Mondays. Every Monday during this October, it's spooky season. We're doing icons of the spooky season. So we've done Dracula. We've done Hannibal Lecter. We've got some other freaky stuff coming down the pipe. You know, it's going to be good.

1:44 It's going to be good. Everything's weird. I guess I can say the next one's going to be fucking about ghosts. All right. Just straight up ghosts. with Jack Wagner of Otherworld Podcast. So if you're a fan of that show, definitely tune in for that one. That's every Monday. You'll know it's different because the logo is different. The title says icons. Okay. Meanwhile, here it is Friday, the 16th of October, 2026, which is Global Cat Day. Dictionary Day, World Food Day, National Liqueur Day, World Allergy Awareness Day, and National Mammography Day because it is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

2:21 It also was National Bosses Day, but Jack, we kicked Jack out of here. That's right. to get on bro and let us do our own thing when.

2:30 You say national liqueur day do you mean the liqueur that like that's american national liqueur day because we're not a liqueur national liqueurs no no no i think it's just like it's i'm sure it's like diageo's like let's celebrate those other weird bottles you guys buy once every four.

2:45 Years the dusty ones on the bottom shelf yes for your quantros your grand marnies yeah and the like both good on chocolate ice cream yeah Or what's the hazelnut one? Frangelico. Frangelico. Yeah. Frangelico, bro. I like an orange one.

3:05 I like the blue curacao, which is weirdly orange flavored when you put it on chocolate ice cream.

3:11 It's a nice spooky dark gray. Wait, blue curacao turns color? No. Blue curacao is orange flavored. But when you pour it on like a chocolate ice cream, it just turns like it looks disgusting gray because it's got fucking blue coloring in it. But it creates a nice chocolate orange flavor. So that's your spooky season tip. You can make a bowl of sludge. Dark gray sludge. I hate chocolate citrus, though. Damn.

3:40 You do? I hate that shit. You're the least... It goes... Because I have such a childish palate when it comes to sweets. Like, you need a chocolate orange, man. I'm fine with cream.

3:50 Yeah, the cherry's chocolate orange.

3:52 No, that's the one that has, like, the individual slices and shit that's wrapped up. No.

3:56 No.

3:57 No.

3:57 Fuck all. It looks like an orange, though. No, it's like eating vegetables and shit. Fuck that. Don't eat my delicious holiday treat. I won't.

4:05 Yeah, that's my favorite Christmas gift to get.

4:06 Well, I'm glad that I am joined by two people who are much classier than I. Meanwhile, my name is Miles Gray, the Shogun Winogan, the Lord of Lancashire, and AKA the spookiest man in North Hollywood. I am in North Hollywood right now, um, visiting my mother's house because I had, I'm fumigating. Uh, I had to fumigate to where I'm at. The termites have taken over. So I'm, I'm on the road, um, on location in the Valley.

4:30 So shout out day one, eight. Uh, I'm thrilled to be joined by my guest co-host today. One of the, one of the homies of the show. Okay. A day one. Okay. one of the fucking best podcast hosts out there, a fantastic writer, and also a media mogul digitally in New York, okay? Back in the day. This is now too far. Well, I have to say it all. I don't like this. Look, he can cook you up a delicious picanha. He can also, has a mean left hook. Please welcome to the microphone, Andrew T! Right hook. I'm left-handed. I throw right hooks. Oh, you're southpaw. I'm a southpaw. I'm slippery.

5:06 Also, I got, uh, quite a bad knee injury, so I'm not boxing anyone. Maybe for the rest of my life.

5:11 Wait, you have a bad injury? Do you get a new bad injury? No, no. Oh, it's the old one. The old one. I'm like, a new bad injury? No, the old one's just permanent. The OG bad injury, yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I hear that. It's okay. It's probably fine if I don't box anymore. What is it? Do you need, like, your ACL replaced or some shit? No, I just got, like, no cartilage in my knees. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My orthopedic surgeon... Uh-huh. I don't know if he was joking.

5:39 I don't know if this is an orthopedic surgeon bit, but when I went in for my first consult, he was like, oh, no, nurse, we got the wrong x-rays. These are the knees of like a 70-year-old man with debilitating arthritis.

5:54 That's fucked up. Doctors love to do bits. He didn't say it in that way, but it... Had to be a bit because he was just like, oh, oh, well, quite a lot going on in there then. They think they're comedians.

6:08 Yeah.

6:09 And also like for something that's like as, you know, important to someone as their mobility and you're like, damn. Yeah. I said, don't show me the cooked knee x-ray. Show me Andrew T's knee x-ray, please. Anyway, I hope you were able to. I had a family member. He moved like some kind of like. like quad meat, like meat from his quad or some shit into his meat. Yeah, I got some options that I think are mostly not covered in the United States because they involve stem cells.

6:36 And of course, those are babies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This happened in Japan.

6:40 Yeah, that used to be a big deal for Republicans, but now they love it.

6:43 Now they love them. Now they love them for injecting. Well, anyway, here we are, Andrew. We are joined today by a fantastic podcast host, podcast producer, beauty icon, Skin tip giver. You know what I mean? I had to look. I'm hydrating more off the strength of our guest comments. I think you might know her from her iconic podcast, Beauty Translated.

7:08 or her producing work on shows like X-Ray Vision with Jason Concepcion or Look Back at It with Alex English and Sam Jay. But to us, she is the one and only Carmen Laron!

7:19 Thank you guys so much. I'm so happy to be here. And I hope you're ready for this training-licious Friday.

7:29 We are. We are. Oh my God.

7:32 Yes, I voted today.

7:34 Oh, you voted today? Yeah. Was it an easy affair? Because we're going to get into some... There is some fuckery elsewhere in the country already with early voting. But it was an easy affair. You're in Georgia? No, you're in California?

7:46 Yeah, I'm in Atlanta.

7:47 Yeah, you're in Atlanta, yeah.

7:48 I'm in a pretty white... area, so the voting was pretty easy.

7:55 Pretty easy. Right, right, right.

7:57 But they love to make voting extremely difficult.

8:00 Yeah, I'm sure on the day, that's when you're going to see the most chaos. Right now, we're just kind of getting sprinklings. Little fuckery. Also, may I ask, do you know what your Halloween costume is going to be?

8:13 You know, I've had a long and treacherous year. I haven't even thought about it. But I am thinking about what I'm going to dress my dogs as. And I do want to do my bigger golden doodle as like a pumpkin. And I think I'm going to have his. Yeah, you know, classic.

8:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, why? I think my puppy will be Van Gogh this year. Yeah, I like pumpkin.

8:45 Well, he's my pumpkin, you know?

8:48 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

8:49 Because he needs pumpkin powder in his food because he... Oh, that's just a dog thing. Yeah, yeah, the fiber. And so I call him my little pumpkin. And so he's going to dress as pumpkin. And then his brother is like evil, so he's going to be the devil. And we're going to just, a devil and a pumpkin. I feel like that's just a classic 90s Halloween.

9:11 Definitely. Yeah, those are definitely background costumes in a house party scene from like a high school party movie. From like Hocus Pocus or something. Yeah, exactly. Unlicensed, free, just costumes you don't need to clear with anyone. They're just ideas. They're concepts. Lovable. Lovable.

9:29 Yeah.

9:30 I'm going to hold up a thing that I got, which is I impulse bought a crazy Lego, which is a truck with a gigantic, like three times the size of a man pumpkin, a jack-o'-lantern on the back. Or like the busted version of like Cinderella's like chariot or carriage. You know what I mean? It's like Cinderella's tow truck.

9:50 Like the hoopty version. Yeah.

9:51 Yeah. yeah the toad version.

9:55 The repoed she goes outside there's a boot on her fucking carriage she's trying to get out of here you left your shoe that's my kind of cinderella story.

10:05 You also forgot to pay forgot to pay why you got a boot on a carriage don't worry about it.

10:11 Just don't worry about it worry about it cover this boot for me.

10:16 Don't worry, my driver must have not paid the ticket. You talking about the rat in the front? Uh, okay. You know what? You have a good night, Miss Lady. Whatever your name was. That's a good adaptation. Think about it.

10:30 Yeah.

10:31 Halloween Cinderella. Or just like, just everything's going wrong. Yeah. Really, really complicated. Cinderella's having a day.

10:39 Yeah. We get it.

10:41 Well, we're going to talk about many, many things, including your overrated, underrated, and search history. But first, we've got to tell people what we're going to be talking about. Just a quick check-in. The state of play. A couple news things. Things about turnout in Ohio. Ballots not going out in Texas. Trump polling being low. None of it's a surprise. Then we're going to talk about a school play that was canceled in Texas because drag? Or because stupid SB-12? We will talk about that. Then we're going to talk about The state of Halloween Horror Nights. Apparently, if you're trying to be a scare-actor, or scare-actor, I always heard it as scare-actor, like a scary character, but a scare-actor at this event, it sounds like hell on earth,

11:24 where just a bunch of drunk people fucking assaulting you. And then we will talk about the new movie, Whale Fall, that's coming out. It's coming out this weekend. Spooky. I'm... I love how fucking stupid the concept is. It's like, dude, what if a fucking scuba diver got swallowed by a whale and had to get out? Terrifies me, though. The trailer? Yeah, it is terrifying. Terrifying. 100%. But then we'll have to ask the age-old question, is this even fucking possible? And also, does this have to do with the Bible? No and yes are the answers to those questions, but we'll dive into why. But first, Carmen Laurent. I'd like to ask you, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

12:10 Well, the last time I was on here, I got roasted for talking about clothes. So I'm not going to talk about that again. But at the top, near the top, was Kelly Loeffler's height. And I was just... Because there's that video. It's not a new video of her. It's a video from a month or so ago of her walking down the hallway, talking to camera. And it's, like, the first day that she's had limbs, apparently. Yeah.

12:39 Newborn giraffe. I think there's a lot of people we're talking about just, like, looking real wobbly on stills.

12:44 And I was just really curious how tall she was. And surprisingly, not as tall as I thought she would be based on the video.

12:52 She's 5'11.

12:53 Yeah, right, right.

12:55 Yeah, yeah. I knew she was taller. Yeah. Yeah, that video made it feel like 6'3, or something like that. Correct.

13:03 And I think she's mostly neck in her height.

13:07 So truly a giraffe.

13:09 You know, truly a giraffe. But yeah, I was just curious to know what her actual height is. That makes her only two inches taller than me. And yeah, I just... That's.

13:19 A spooky costume, I think, this year, too. You just wear a pantsuit, a big blonde wig, and just kind of look disoriented. Yeah. It's not just a pantsuit.

13:28 You know, it's this very, like, Republican type of styling that is very unaware of proportions and very unaware of just how things fit on the body. And her proportions are all off. You know, but she doesn't have any gay friends because who the fuck?

13:48 Who's making sure she's looking right, looking tight before you go out there walking with an empty binder?

13:53 Right.

13:53 Through all the way. Exactly. it is the overall Republican like style choice does seem to be very like off the rack. It's very Timu.

14:02 It's very like Timu Chanel, Timu, um, like Dior, like, uh, just very kind of like everything that they claim to be against.

14:14 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. There, there are a few accounts that like are actually like clocking all the outfits that they wear, like, like down to the accessories. And I'm always surprised how often it's, it's just fast fashion. Mm-hmm, it is. And that's, again, inspired by something from Europe. Carmen, what's something you think is underrated? Oh, gosh.

14:37 This is where I want to get kind of trannylicious with you, if you'll let me. But always having a thing that you got to go and do. And this is something that I think everybody should have in their life. But I had a vaginoplasty four months ago. I got the Amelia Perez special. I got the penis to vagina combo. No, not really, but it's not a combo. It's not a combo deal. And as part of that, I have to medically, for the next year, I have to go and dilate my vagina.

15:17 Wow.

15:19 That's something you got to do. It's, I mean, you just got to fucking do it or that shit will close up. And that is only in like the first year of the recovery. At first it was four times a day. Now I'm doing it three times a day. Eventually it'll be two times a day. Eventually it'll be one time a day. But I love right now I'm at a point where I'm back at work and I love just being like, sorry, I.

15:41 Like, I gotta go like lay down. I gotta go maintain. I gotta go maintain, you know, whatever.

15:47 Yeah. And I think everybody should just have a thing that they got to go and do no matter what, like every day. It's really nice. Yeah.

15:55 Outside of like our usual, like maybe brushing our teeth and things like that. It's like, I just.

16:00 Got to lay down for like 30 minutes to an hour.

16:03 Yeah.

16:04 You know, is.

16:07 That what smoking used to be for people? It is.

16:10 Right. And I do both, but you know.

16:12 Smoke and dilate. Yeah. Yeah. Doing it all. Doing it all. Yeah, well, congratulations. That's such a major milestone. And I'm very happy for you. And I hope that nobody interrupts your dilation. You know what I mean?

16:25 No, because I'm on Do Not Disturb. I got my chill playlist on. I'm in the zone. I'm in like a meditative state. And like I said, at first, it was like a chore. It was laborious. It was a lot.

16:38 And transphobic people.

16:39 Love to be like, oh, it's this like numb, like a gash that you have to dilate every day for the rest of your life, which is just not true. It's just like for the earlier recovery stages. And it's certainly not numb. I'll tell you that. And it's like, it's just nice to just have an excuse, right?

17:02 Right. Always. Producer Catherine's in the chat. It's like, yeah, it's a moment to meditate too. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think that's another thing people don't... I was talking about this at the beginning of the week that it's like going from unhappy to happy is very difficult. Going from unhappy to tranquil or peaceful is much easier. And if you're in that space, meditation is such a perfect way to at least get to that next step to give yourself a platform to maybe reach for something a little bit. So yeah, love a bit of meditation. Love a bit of meditation.

17:36 Everybody, get into your daily meditation.

17:39 Yeah, fire up. Open up your pelvic floor. Open it up. Exactly. Do what you got to do. Open up your pelvic floor. Open up your third eye. We're going to do it all. Yeah, your root chakra. Yeah, metaphorically, literally, do it all. Carmen, what's something you think is overrated?

17:54 I was like, damn it. I have to come up with this shit every time I come on this show.

17:59 But no.

18:00 No.

18:00 Then I finally thought of something because every time I fucking open Instagram now, and this is another part of my meditation that I've been doing and really just kind of like part of me having this thing that I always got to go and do and meditate is like, I'm no longer on my phone and on Instagram as much because I need to relax my pelvic floor. And unfortunately Instagram causes me to have a tight pelvic floor. And, um, Everything on the internet now, I don't know if anyone can agree with this. It's like, I feel like a part of dead internet theory, whatever you want to call it.

18:32 But I feel like everything has moved towards like some type of engagement bait of some kind. And I'm just like, so I feel like I'm, I've had my, my chakras opened and I'm like, I, I just am so like bored with it now.

18:50 Cause also like, I think on so many levels, corporations are subjecting us to manners of living that we are just not wired for. So the thing became like, well, ad based click based, like, you know, articles is the way to go. Our brains don't work like that, but they do know our brains are curious. So they're like, well, what if we just fucking keep make, keep it, you know, outrageous or something to keep clicking, keep clicking, keep clicking that you fucking burn out. And like, yeah, I'm, I'm glad you found a place. You found it like the moment you go, I actually can't do this. I battle with it regularly. I think like the biggest thing is like now I like Instagram is mostly on my computer.

19:28 I don't do that shit on my phone.

19:29 Yeah.

19:30 I try not to also, I've also gotten like, like phone wrist recently where like, yeah, I was realizing I had like this ulnar nerve pain that I thought was from playing video games and like gripping a controller. But it's really, I'm realizing it's from holding a fucking heavy ass stupid smartphone. And now I'm like, bro, I need a fucking like razor. Like, my body like I'm realizing my body's not even built for this shit.

19:53 What do they call it like the simple phone or like the dumb phone where.

19:57 It's just like oh yeah and I'm sure like part of me like I'm like can I just find an old something on the GSM network like a tri-band phone that they used to have but probably not And I even think of that too, with like the clickbait stuff with GTA six coming out.

20:14 Oh my God.

20:14 I love video games, but I remember 13 years ago when GTA five came out, there wasn't a fucking article every eight hours about like this new thing just leaked. This other thing just leaked. Oh, fans are curious about this thing and it leaked. And I think so many things that we're interested in are sort of presented in this like drip by drip way that just a fucking just burns you out.

20:36 It truly does.

20:37 Yeah. I, the, I can't believe the number of people I know who I think are otherwise intelligent people who take the bait to the repost bait, especially we're just like, Oh, someone says something really dumb and you just sort of like dunk on it with a retweet or whatever. And it's like, why are you doing this? How are you so easily manipulated? I think, yeah, people, cause I think sometimes people mistake like the engagement for like you're participating or some shit when some things are just like, no, this is just, this is hot air.

21:11 And that's a lot of times what the creators want because they want, because I've, what I've started to realize is when I'm interacting on social media, because I will, I used to fall into that trap of like wanting to leave a comment or whatever. And now I'm realizing, no, that like literally just generates more income for like, a lot of these people.

21:35 Sure. But yeah. So wild. Just block them. Go black. Do my strategy, which is just block anyone. Block. Did you see that story about how when the Ukrainians hit a Russian data center, a bunch of bot traffic went down?

21:51 And I fully believe that because I do believe that in comment sections, a lot of times you're mostly probably just screaming at bots. Yeah.

21:59 Well, and also comment sections are just... Like, at this point. Do not need. Do not need.

22:05 Yeah, exactly.

22:06 I want to say for the record, I didn't follow up on this. I did see someone saying the bot thing was not true. The people were claiming that there were no bots at all. And I think that's the thing that was a lie. I think it was more just like, measurably, this activity was lower because of that facility.

22:26 I saw the headline, too. It's like, for a day, there were no bots at all. And it's like, well, no, that's not true.

22:31 There was definitely other countries with bots.

22:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was more just like... A section of the bot army went down for a moment. You can just be like me and just be above it all. Just exist in a different ethereal plane of knowingness. Yes, exactly. I'm just kidding. I don't meditate for shit. You don't? Have you ever meditated? No. You should. I do app meditation, which feels like training wheels-y.

22:59 Right.

23:01 Still count. It's got to be better than nothing. It's still better than nothing, but I can also tell it's not that good. Yeah, sure, sure. Well, look, you need some good guided meditations. You've got to find them. I couldn't tell you what's good or bad. Well, you should come to my temple that I run out of my mother's garage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's free spaghetti.

23:24 I got cash. Free spaghetti, but we don't have utensils, so I'm hopefully just pulling it out of the bucket with your hand.

23:29 Okay?

23:30 But everybody has to wash their hands before they pull the free spaghetti out the bucket. Everybody knows that. Miles' temple. That's the one rule.

23:34 Oh, and the bucket is just a drawer inside of the fridge. That's just full of spaghetti. Little spaghetti drawer.

23:43 But hey, easier. That's how I keep it maintained and refrigerated and also cut down on dishes. I don't even wash. What am I saying? I don't wash the drawer. Don't need to wash the drawer because it's in the refrigerator. It's not going to go bad. All right, let's take a break. We're going to come right back and we'll check in on some news. And we're back. Just want to check in with the midterms because we're about four, three, two-ish weeks out. What, four weeks, three weeks out? Yeah.

24:19 First of all, just quick stuff just to get people up on things. Ohio is reporting in their early in-person voting, numbers has drawn nearly four times as many voters as it did at the same point in the Joe Byron midterms. So, OK, people are out there. They realize there's a there's a Senate race. The Senate math definitely matters in that state.

24:40 In Texas, though, Texas somehow they had a little bit of a, quote, glitch that ended resulted in a failure to send out six hundred thousand ballots. This is from The Guardian, quote, Texas election officials are struggling to process a massive backlog of nearly 600,000 voter registration applications after a major state computer system failure just days before early voting is set to open on Monday. The disruption has raised serious concerns about the state's voter registration system, with voting rights organizations accusing Texas officials of failing to ensure that eligible voters could properly register. The problem originated... From a software error involving the Texas Department of Safety, according

25:21 to a lawsuit that was filed last week, the glitch affected a website used for driver's license applications that was also designed to allow Texans to register to vote. Guess what happened? The lawsuit alleges, between October 2025 and February 2026, residents who selected yes when asked whether they wanted to register to vote were given receipts confirming their selections. However...

25:47 Their registration information was never actually recorded. Yeah.

25:51 So it's just a box that did nothing basically.

25:54 Yeah. Yeah. It was a computer glitch. You know, I don't know. It's very convenient computer glitch when you have another, like the most money being poured into a Senate race, uh, in this Paxton, Tallarico Senate race. And now a computer glitch and like 600,000 people aren't going to get their ballots. Yeah.

26:12 Yeah.

26:14 Or going to have to really go the extra mile to make sure they are registered. So whether they're voting in person or not, that's just another fucking hoop to jump through. So if you live in Texas, you may need to check in on that if you're interested in voting. You know, that might be a thing worth looking into.

26:29 I just voted in Georgia. It was easy.

26:31 Wait, did I mention that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you get the sticker? I was mentioning twice. Do they have a good sticker? Well, yeah, I voted twice. Oh, yeah, we do. We have....

26:41 Oh, yeah.

26:41 We have the peach, which I love. Oh, that's nice. Ours are fucking so busted and normal. Do you guys want... We can fill out mine on air right now.

26:50 Oh, yeah.

26:50 I got mine right here at the desk. Ours, straight down. Yeah, our down the.

26:56 I did a little canvassing for old Nithya Raman.

27:01 Their other candidates are available in Los Angeles. And I did get to talk to a... Had a lengthy conversation with a... Spencer Pratt supporter. Oh, wow.

27:12 Oh, wow.

27:13 That must have been fun. What part of town were you in? It was wild. Echo Park. Oh, wow. It was a chiropractor. Oh, wow. A chiropractor. Ten out of ten doctors who go, I'm a doctor, and they go, you're a chiropractor, bro. Yeah. He struck me as like a, by way of RFK. Yeah. Yeah. Like crank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:40 For sure. How old is he? Old white guy. Old. I mean, there's so many levels. 70s? Moderate.

27:47 Old. 60s. How red and how like red in the face was he?

27:52 Yeah. He, he was, uh, it was so hot out. You know, I don't know if he got more red in the face. Yeah. Yeah.

28:00 Yeah.

28:00 What did he say? Like when he said, cause I mean, I remember when you, like when, you know, I was canvassing a lot, you'd go to the, you'd go to a door of someone who clearly wasn't with what you were talking about. Yeah. Did he give you the old sarcastic or would he go, just want to let you know, I'll never vote for Nithya. And then he went into a monologue. What kind of interaction was it?

28:19 He started with like, well, because I think it was some version of like, hey, you know, do you know about Nithya Raman?

28:26 And it was like, I know she stole the election from Spencer Pratt. Oh, so he's real low info. It was rough. Yeah. That part was really rough. And then, listen, shout out to everyone volunteering for any, honestly, any political campaign. The more the better, even if, well, no one's actually volunteering for any of these horrible folks. However, if it's for Hakeem Jeffries. The person with me was a very nice guy who I would maybe also categorize in somewhat of the low-info sort of guy. Sure, sure. Because he was like, let's talk to him. Let's get into it.

29:02 And I was just like.

29:02 It was one of those things I was like, I don't know, man.

29:06 I'm just... that this is not going to be a good use of our time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like we could be knocking on doors and actually converting people that might be on the fence rather than a guy who's like, I subscribe to Spencer's YouTube channel. I don't know how those votes come in. That part was rough.

29:20 Because again, everyone's, not everyone, one of the parties in the story is not very nice, but the other person.

29:27 Yeah.

29:28 Well, and that's all part of your, you know, people's political evolution. Yeah. Get out there. Learn what you like, learn what you don't like, and then you figure it out. Direction, you know, things are moving in directions, I guess.

29:39 Yeah.

29:39 But this was wild. This was the wildest conversation I've had in Los Angeles, I will say. Wow. Which is, that speaks a little bit to my bubble, I suppose.

29:47 Yeah.

29:48 I remember. I was like, this shit is crazy. This man is like actually on a different planet. When I was at Conde Nast, I went to like one of the early Trump rallies in Orange County in 2016. And no, 2015. And that's when I was like, Ooh, y'all are talking like it's the 1950s. And yeah, you're really. And I, at the time I was naive enough to be like, he's got too many negatives against him for him to win a national election. I was very much.

30:16 You know what?

30:17 I was in my blue blade.

30:19 Yeah.

30:20 Well, I was, I was producing like content and stuff. So, and I, and I wanted to go because like, we should go, like, we need to put cameras, like we need to put microphones. Yeah. Anyway, Pretty freaky shit. All right. Also, I just want to point out on the thing, when we're talking about the turnout and things like that, it's quadruple what Joe Biden, what the turnout was for Joe Biden in 2022. Still in a midterm. Yeah, still in a midterm. Still in a midterm, which is low. Lower, obviously, than the general election. It's always low. But this was also a midterms where people were very much talking about inflation and Joe Biden's role in it, even though it's his inability to combat corporate greed. But, yeah, we'll call

31:03 it that. And at the time, I just want to point at some polling that was happening at the time. Biden had about 29 percent approval in those midterms on the topic of inflation of inflation. Trump is currently at 22% approval. He's even lower than Joe Byron was when he lost the House. So, look, you know, we're talking about, this is the 7% of humanity that's like, I fucking love Donald Trump. 7%. Like a third of those people are like, The inflation thing that was kind of bad. Yeah, it's fucking, I mean, because it's hard to ignore when you, because you can't, you can't look at your bank account and pretend the numbers you're seeing aren't the numbers that you're fucking seeing. And I think that's where the rubber meets

31:50 the road.

31:51 Yeah.

31:51 And also like, there was another poll that came out that was saying that, uh, like three in 10 voters who are like voting against Republicans want total upheaval of our governance system. Like that's like, that's a new bracket of people that are so outraged over the status quo that they're like, um, no, I'm not, I want some change. Uh, yes, I want total upheaval. Yeah. Yeah. And those numbers are only going to grow as long as you have, you know, the politicians in office that will just hide behind terms like inflation. Because I think that's the thing. People would rather see a Joe Biden at that time be like, no, this is fucking corporate greed, man. Like, we got to fucking do something about it. Like, we got to stop

32:29 calling this inflation. If he was even out there articulating something like that, that probably could have helped. But again, key teams don't just have to be for political figures. Yes. Certainly. Certainly not. That's me quoting alternate universe Joe Biden. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The one that wins. Right. He's like, they don't want to find out. You know what I mean? They don't want to find out. Yeah. So let's move on to the state of Texas. I guess stay in the state of Texas. We were just talking about their ballot registration system.

32:58 But Texas's SB 12 Senate Bill 12 is one of those laws that was passed last year. That is like the Florida don't say gay bill. It's a bill disguised as a way for parents to be in control about what their children are learning in our public schools. When really it's just to completely censor subjects like DEI, racial equity, and anything related to like sexuality or gender identity, LGBTQ plus topics, anything like that. It's like, don't bring it into the, don't even bring it into the consciousness of these kids. The bill, obviously just another step towards the project 2025 fascistic takeover of education to like create mindless students who will be taught that there are only two genders, Coke or Pepsi. And, This has nothing to do with

33:44 parental rights. The law, again, it's so far-reaching in sort of its nebulous definitions to just sort of criminalize anything that's outside of cis-het culture that it's ended the high school production of Little Shop of Horrors because a girl was cast as the male lead, as Seymour. They first tried to recast.

34:10 Her Which, by the way, Seymour, not exactly, like, peak masculinity or anything like that, you know? And also, I mean, sorry to butt in here about this, but, like, throughout the history of theater, like, women have played, like, Peter Pan, but most of all, men have played women in theater. That's where drag even.

34:39 Yeah, think about Shakespeare. Like, women weren't on stage.

34:42 That's where the term drag, dressed as girls, comes from. From Shakespeare theater. And so it's like, but these people don't care about that, obviously.

34:51 No, no, no. This is merely because they're like, girl dressed as not girl? Yeah. Then this is a crime. I just want to share a clip of the local news broadcast of them talking about it. Because it's just... It's just so stupid to even hear people talking out loud about how this is a problem. We're going to hear from the girl, Anna Mota, who is like the high school student who got cast in the role of Seymour, who then had the role taken away because, again, she's a girl playing a boy in a play.

35:21 The traditionally male lead in Little Shop of Horrors.

35:25 After I found out I got the role, I would drive to school and I would listen to just the soundtrack and to work and just the soundtrack.

35:31 But five days later, she was told she wouldn't be allowed to play the part.

35:35 She says the district wanted to replace her with a male student and have her share the role of the female lead.

35:41 She declined.

35:42 It wasn't the role I was given. It wasn't the role I earned. And I know that if I earn something, then... I want to carry out and I want to do that. But if I don't, then I don't.

35:50 Mota says she had a problem with the district's reasoning. She'd already played three male characters before at the same school. She says district officials told her it was different this time because it was a romantic role.

36:04 What?

36:05 She fell in love with a fucking plant? Because... I will say, when you first brought this story up, I did think that there was a chance it was because a male was Audrey 2.

36:20 Yeah.

36:21 No, I mean, and I am actually surprised that it's caused as much of an uproar as it has, because typically it would be like a male in like female drag.

36:31 Right.

36:32 But yeah, this is, I mean, to be quite honest with you, like I went to high school in Georgia once. I mean, it's not that much different than Texas. Of course, there's these insane laws in place now. But like, even when I was in high school, like, you know, there was shit like this. Like, I remember my principal called me when I was in like 10th or 9th or 10th grade called me to tell me I couldn't come to homecoming because, you know, I... was going to wear a dress. And he said, well, you can't wear a dress to homecoming. You have to wear like a suit.

37:06 And I was like, well, I'm not going to do that. And so he was like, well, you can't come. And I feel like that's just kind of like a standard kind of practice in the schools in the South. Yeah. And now they have a law where they can say, okay, well, this is the law that backs us up.

37:22 And it's just, That's what the school district is kind of doing where they're like, oh, look, we need to just need to be in compliance with the state law. That's what this is about to try and, again, pass the buck. But at the end of the day, you're keeping a child from engaging with like an art form that they're clearly very passionate about. She's talking about she's going to work. She's listening to the soundtrack. She's doing everything she should be doing. And you're going to just fucking die. deny her this opportunity because of this bullshit law.

37:52 And it's a tradition of the art form.

37:54 Yeah, exactly. Like how, like how many times have you, I've seen Peter Pan. So I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen somebody play Peter Pan that wasn't a girl or a woman like on stage.

38:04 Yeah, absolutely.

38:05 I mean, I went to high school in California, so this happened and it wasn't that big of a deal where she also mentions and she's been doing like, she's been interviewed a lot of times by local news because it's like a big story there. And she said too, You know, like a lot of the times there aren't a lot of guys who are in theater and there's a lot of roles.

38:22 Because they're not as interested in it. They're doing sports.

38:24 Yeah. And so.

38:25 And they get bullied for it.

38:26 And we just we step in and we just play a role because it's theater. That's true. It's a performance.

38:33 Yes.

38:33 Again, the legal argument, like you're saying, it's about SB 12. When the wording there, it's about prohibiting sexually oriented performance on public property in the presence of anyone under 18. And I guess that's what they're trying to say is because. Seymour is in love with the plant. The female plant.

38:51 Yeah.

38:51 Like any suggestion that something might be not cis, not hetero is sexually oriented. Yeah. That's the part that's like, what the hell are you talking about? Yeah. She, but she has said in other interviews, she's like, well, you know, like she may, there, there may be some like legal help coming into, because she's like, this feels like a title nine violation. Cause I'm being denied an opportunity discriminated against based on sex. I'm not doing anything other than I'm playing Seymour in Little Shop of Horrors in a high school play. And this really does feel like kind of when you see like this the the sort of goals of this project 2025 conservative movement show like manifest in the most mundane ways of our day-to-day lives which

39:37 isn't just like they're shutting down this clinic because they're helping people transition or whatever it's like this girl is playing a boy it's like this most it's like stupid ass you know it's like comedic almost and stupid it.

39:49 And I'm not even sure if it was mentioned here, but like, I'm not sure if this was even reported by somebody, like where they reported it to the school or reported it to the school board.

39:59 Complained.

40:01 Or if it was just, well, the school made this decision and then they had this law to kind of back it up. But it's just, it's just fucking stupid.

40:10 Yeah.

40:11 Yeah.

40:11 Right. Exactly. Even if they have like the fact that they even have a legal argument is whether or not they were saying you need to enforce it. I think is moot, yeah, because precisely... Not to get all, like, daily showy, like, oh, they're hypocrites, but, like, if the performance of a man falling in love with a plant is sexually oriented, it's actually sexually oriented no matter any of the genders. Right, and that shouldn't be for kids. Yeah, if it's, like, the whole play is that, then you can't do it for kids. Right. Well, not in front of... Otherwise, the gender is, like, not part of it.

40:47 Yeah.

40:48 Well, yeah, they're going to cancel a screening of The Clumps soon, too, because they don't want Eddie Murphy dressed as his mother in that. All right, well, let's talk about Halloween Horror Nights. Growing up in L.A., this was a huge thing, going to Universal Studios, using one with, like, your friend group. You could get, like, $ 10 off because you had, like, a Sprite can you brought with you.

41:10 You brought a dirty-ass Sprite can with you to the gate. But now it's a much bigger thing. It's big in Orlando too. And like this year, they've got all kinds of attractions. They got stuff for Sinners, Evil Dead, and Ozzy Osbourne for some reason. I'm sure they were quick to license his likeness. Is he a universal property? I'm sure, look, maybe Sharon was like, why don't we license his likeness?

41:39 So I'm not sure what's going to happen if you're just going to hear the voice going, Sharon! constantly through the park or what, but whatever. Yeah. Like very slowly. Yeah. Yeah. But the hit of the year, obviously obsession is being represented by an actress playing Nikki who roams throughout the park.

42:04 And when it was first announced, a lot of people were like, isn't, isn't this kind of backwards? Isn't Nikki the victim of the story? Not really the villain. which is kind of the thrust of the film. And they're like, should we really be putting her up there with the likes of, you know, Chucky the doll or Ozzy Osbourne?

42:24 Is this really what we should be doing? But there was a clip of this woman going around went viral because the character, this character, had to cut a meet and greet short And like break character because she was being screamed at by a bunch of teenagers who don't know how to act. They were just kept they were just doing that. No, no. Like just kept screaming, screaming no at her in unison from the film. And I was to the point where she kept trying to talk to these people and then had to be like, I'm so sorry about like just fully broke character.

42:58 Yeah.

42:59 Because these kids were just screaming. I think that's nothing new in this post-lockdown period of people not knowing how to behave in public. But this has been an issue even since the beginnings of Halloween Horror Night. So, like, back in 2015, the Orlando Sentinel, they had an investigation they published into the violence and harassment that performers are subjected to, including fake zombies being just punched in the face by guests.

43:28 Oh, my God. Yeah.

43:29 Yeah.

43:30 Another guy got kicked in the face. An intoxicated woman, quote, kicked another actor's stilts and almost knocked him to the ground. Oh, God. Yeah. And Universal's website warns people, if you mistreat any of the Halloween Horror Nights performers, you'll be sent home, parenthetical, possibly in a body bag.

43:51 Oh, yeah.

43:52 It's like little jokes. Good.

43:53 Yeah.

43:53 But employees at the time were like, Dude, they're not doing shit. If anything, they're doing what the Catholic Church does, and they'd be like, okay, well, don't be in this part. You can go over there now. Do your shit over there. They're just moving people around. Yeah. Yeah, and a lot of female employees were quitting due to just the widespread sexual harassment they were just facing, being in costume around drunk fucking people, thinking that you're in a costume, so you're some kind of fucking monster or non-human thing. Another one, in 2014, an actor was, quote, attacked by six men.

44:25 leading to a brawl that resulted in security deploying tear gas and tasers. So it's not, look, it's not just, you know, kids who don't know how to act. The big thing, though, that they really point to is, like, the alcohol consumption. Yeah. Because, like, it's a huge earner for the community. Right, right, right. So they're, like, once you, yeah. Yeah, they're balancing profits over the safety of, like, people who are, you know, the workers.

44:51 Especially, and it seems like especially women, This would be, well, I'm not saying that women shouldn't be scarectures, but maybe this is a time when we would have some men and women's roles so that they're getting beat up as Nikki from Obsession or whatever. And I will say, Obsession, I still haven't seen it. I was actually in San Fran recovering from my surgery during that time, so I still haven't seen it. But obviously I know about it, and I've seen it memed. And I do find it funny how the female character, Nikki, is the meme of the movie when I'm assuming in actuality it's about how this guy is a total asshole. And this is kind of, I guess, the new bro. Every few years we get a new kind of bro cinema movie. And I think

45:46 this is kind of that for this movie. this generation well.

45:51 Clearly a lot of people the message was lost on a lot of people and i think they just they just latch on to like what was the scary thing yeah yeah.

45:59 Just like with uh uh like all of these other kind of bro cinema movies that pop up that they totally are lost on the message and you know in this case they have like aimed their misogyny at these these Right. Women's characters.

46:15 If you were a theme park designer worth a damn, the scariest realm would be what happened to Nikki during that movie. Yes. Right.

46:23 Yeah.

46:24 If you, if you. As a maze or something.

46:26 Trapped in whatever the fuck realm she is, we see, we hear her in for like a fraction of a second.

46:32 Yeah. What the fuck is happening there?

46:35 It's really, I mean, I think this is also maybe, it's just like this idea of, like, like just one dystopian level further where you can just pay money, drink and beat up human beings.

46:48 That's like, yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Or just like get out some weird deep seated shit. That's like, we're getting brought out to you because you see someone on stilts or a clown. Yeah. I think so many people like, you know, like with horror, it, There's certain things appeal to people's subconscious on a certain level. And to go into a place where you're surrounded by that and these people are dressed up pretending to not be people and that sounds like a fucking disaster for America because no one is fucking... Everyone needs help.

47:20 During the zombie Walking Dead era, there's a whole subgenre of white dudes that were fantasizing about zombie apocalypse.

47:28 Apocalypse, yeah.

47:29 Because it would mean that they would just be able to, like, shoot.

47:31 Like, kill people. Yeah, they want to kill people. Exactly. And then I could protect a woman who will date me because I could shoot the zombies. Yes, exactly. And she will be called... I don't know. I haven't thought of her name yet. But it would be nice. The thing that's also wild, too, right, is, like, the alcohol...

47:50 Everyone says it's the fucking alcohol that is, like, one of the biggest drivers of the problems. In 2017, the Orlando Sentinel... Just two years after publishing that investigative report about the fucking chaos of being a scare actor at Halloween Horror Nights, they published rules for a Halloween Horror Nights drinking game. Yeah. And then they pulled it down because people were like, oh, fuck yeah, we're doing this.

48:17 And we're getting, quote, a little handsy with the scare actors.

48:21 Yeah.

48:22 Which seems like a pretty cavalier way to describe assault. This is how they even talk about it. This is from the archived post of the Sentinel article about the drinking games. It says, so somewhat overzealous partiers get too sloshed and a little handsy with the scaracters. So now I have to give the dad talk. No one likes to be grabbed, goosed, or groped. Just like in the champagne room, there's no touching. Yeah.

48:49 And the champagne brown.

48:50 What the fuck are you talking about in this article? This is what they... This was the little caveat they attached to their drinking game after they know, they're like, yeah, it's the booze. All right, here's how you get fucked up there. And don't goose them, will ya?

49:04 Yeah.

49:04 You're talking about assaulting people. Maybe if you... Like, there's never... The phrase a little handsy is never anything other than straight up sexual assault. Yeah, that's a very 2017.

49:19 The entire statement is all very like euphemisms, like the champagne room, like all of that.

49:25 Well, and like the champagne rooms, you're talking about a private dance with a stripper. Right. So we're already making it. What is this? So these people are here for your pleasure. Like you're like, and just like the other place where these people are objects to you, let's not think about the humanity, but also just no touching. Okay. No touching.

49:45 But at least at a fucking strip club, if you're touching a big ass bouncer will come and beat the shit out of you or fucking scare the fuck out of you and protect people. They don't have that at Universal.

49:54 Well, it sounds like they need to have some bouncers.

49:56 Yeah. Maybe they, because it's, again, it sounds like the, everything like so much of American culture, like where people are just don't know how to act is because there's such an inability to tell people to fucking stop or people aren't reprimanded properly. It's always like, well, you know, this person's rich or, well, this person, and we make excuses for not being like, no, bro, stop. This is not some shit to play with. You're fucking out of here. But, The customer is always right is an assault on workers. Yeah, exactly.

50:25 That's all that phrase exists to do. So, anyway, if you're out there, please don't goose or grope them, okay? Just like in the champagne room. Don't assault anyone in or out of yeah halloween horror nights or the champagne room i think and also please bring the strip club bouncers to halloween horror nights because in according to like a survey of people who were working as scare actors 82 of them don't report any kind of assault or harassment because they felt it wouldn't matter since nothing happens yeah that's a fucking huge failure damn just to be like It's, I mean, again, reflective of so many transgressions people face in this country, there's always a thing that's like, I don't even know if anyone, I don't even know

51:11 if I can receive justice, actually.

51:12 And I'm sure they're paid so well, and I'm sure that there's, you know, benefits and all of this kind of stuff.

51:19 Oh, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. College tuition and all that. Yeah. All right, let's take another break. When we come back, let's just get fucking swallowed by a whale at this point. Just fucking give it up. Please. I want a whale's gullet after this. And we're back. So this weekend, we're getting whale fall. A movie all about a scuba diver, Lubin. Are you for scuba, Lubin?

51:52 Who gets swallowed up by a sperm whale and has to figure out how to escape its stomach before running out of oxygen. Have you seen the trailer, Andrew? I have seen the trailer. I'm reading a little bit ahead on this document you guys put together. Yeah. Can I spoil one thing that is blowing my mind? This shit is based on a book? Yeah. What the fuck is going on? What the fuck is going on with books?

52:20 People are writing books about anything these days. Oh my God, that's amazing.

52:24 I'm interested in Quan Mills books.

52:27 Yeah, that's true. That's right. I got swallowed by a whale. Do you remember that, uh, that one, that one clip from 2020 of the people like that were like in the kayaks and the whale came up and they're like, Oh, those people got almost fucking eaten by a whale.

52:45 I think I do.

52:46 Um, here, let me see. I think these are clips.

52:49 But anyway, this is, um, I saw the trailer, uh, before a horror, I forget which horror movie I was seeing recently where I'd seen that.

52:57 So I saw it before Resident Evil and it also it's a double Austin Abrams yeah yeah yeah yeah fucked up year for Austin Abrams characters but that's.

53:07 Why I mean Austin Abrams he's been in my opinion one of my favorite horror actors recently because he brings a lot of like goofy comedy yeah and so I am I am interested to see if there's any any sort of yeah yeah aspect to this because he's always a little goofy you.

53:25 Know To Andrew, your point, it is based on a book. And sure, it's based on a book about a viral video of two kayakers who almost got eaten by a whale or went really in the whale's mouth, if anything. But the thing is, this has never actually happened to anybody on Earth in the history of humanity. But it could, if you think about it. Yeah, that's true. It could, if you need the Bible to be real. Okay. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Truly. Right. So, I mean, again, there was another incident in 2021. There was a recording, a recorded incident of a lobster diver named Michael Packard, who was reportedly quote swallowed by a humpback whale off Provincetown. Um, Packard also was invited to the screening of wheel of

54:16 whale fall in fucking four DX, like the shit where your seats move and water's coming. And people were like, Um, you got slashed. It said in one writing, it said, uh, worried the film might prove triggering, especially given we were seeing it in a regal 40 X theater. I assure Packard, he can leave at any point. He confesses that when he watched the trailer, he had like, he had memories, but he would be fine for the thing. So that guy though, was not actually swallowed by a whale. And it couldn't be a movie because at most he said he was in there for 30 seconds, 40 tops. before he said the whale, quote, began shaking its head and expelled him.

54:54 Let's use our imaginations, okay?

54:57 Yeah.

54:57 And let's add some Hollywood magic.

55:01 You know?

55:02 Yes. I want to. I'm just saying a TED Talk from the whale's perspective. Just like, ugh. What the fuck? What the fuck? God damn. Bad day to be a whale. Yeah. It's like swallowing a bug. It's like, fuck, that's gross. Yeah, a bug with a bunch of fucking metal. Microplastics. Yeah. God damn, I swallowed an oxygen tank? The fuck was that?

55:25 But a lot of people, again, I just want to point out, so when you need to be insufferable when talking about whale fall and the reality of the situation, people pointed out with that guy who was quote unquote swallowed by a humpback biologists were like, that's impossible because the throat of that whale is the size of a human fist. So miss us with that one. They only said the only one that could fully get you like down their throat is a sperm whale. And so they do have that right for this film. So at least they were like, they haven't fallen into those mistakes. At least it is the one that is big enough to, So this is a sperm whale. This is a sperm whale.

56:05 Hell yeah. But I think, again, there's, and like this also, this like tail. My favorite kind of whale. The hell yeah. The throat goat. The literal throat goat. The throat goat. The sperm whale. It's the biggest throat. It's the biggest throat. I mean, it should be. I think so. So this is also an old story that happened in the late 19th century where a sailor said he fell into the ocean.

56:29 The crew thought he drowned, but then they caught a whale. And when they cut it open, the man just flopped out. Still alive after 15 hours inside the belly. And this was a myth that went on for a long time. But then finally people were like, no, this is a hoax that originated with a letter by fucking sailors who were just writing shit back because it's 1891. Made up a lot of shit. They're losing their shit. That's the best fucking job to lie. Because how are you going to know? You were out there? You got both that seaworthy? No, you don't. Man, shut the fuck up. Let me know when you get your sea legs. Yeah. I saw the edge of the world, motherfucker. You just dream about it.

57:09 There were mermaids. I talked to that big face at the edge of the world.

57:14 No, I am excited for this movie. I personally am terrified of the ocean.

57:21 And open water.

57:23 I think it's like called thalassophobia or whatever. And this trailer, like in video games, you cannot get me to do anything that's like underwater or anything like that.

57:33 Oh, really? This is like, not even like Mario. Oh no, that shit. Fuck. That is where side scroller underwater is.

57:41 Like, Well, side-scrolling is okay, but the first time that I remember it actually terrifying me was in Mario 64.

57:48 64, yeah.

57:49 Where you were in that fucking snake thing.

57:52 Yeah.

57:53 You know, that shit fucking terrified me.

57:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta protect your neck out there, Carmen, for sure. I can't walk under big bricks with a face. because of Mario. It's so stupid. It's the same thing.

58:08 What are they called?

58:08 The thwomps. The thwomps? Yeah. Can't do it. Can't do it. And I won't do it. Can't and won't. But I just want to say though, since that sailor who lied, the reason why this story endures realistically is because this is like, because Christians were holding onto this sailor who got swallowed. Yep. as evidence of the biblical story of Jonah who was swallowed by a whale. And that, this is also the same thing when people who are, like, just can't let go of finding Noah's Ark, because they're like, well, if we find the Ark, then that proves the Bible's real. Right, right.

58:39 My mom, who's a nurse, told me when I was a child that women have, like, the one less, women have, like, one extra rib from, like, Adam or whatever the fuck.

58:53 Mm-hmm.

58:54 Like that's like a real myth that some people believe also. And once you start counting them ribs, that's not.

59:01 How it works. You're like, no, it's about the same. Ah, you counted? Damn, see, that's where that story falls apart. I was counting on you to not just take that. and not really interrogate what I said at all. Shit. Yeah. Yeah, we got the same ones. It's true. It's true.

59:17 Oh, wow.

59:18 And also, yeah, we ain't shit either. Sorry about that. Well. Yeah. For those of you seeing whale fall, I wish you good luck as you experience what it would be like. As you get swallowed.

59:30 Yeah.

59:31 Looking for that oxygen. But, you know, I think I'm trying to see Digger still. I still need to get up. I can't do this. Did you see it, Dandrew?

59:41 No.

59:42 I heard it was kind of boring. When I saw it, instead of seeing Digger... is I saw a Korean movie called Hope. It's mostly, by the time this comes out, mostly out of the theaters. I'll just say this, because I already got into several arguments about this. I acknowledge, I guess I don't understand the movie. But to me, that movie's first hour and a half is like, I genuinely was in the theater like, I think this is my favorite movie of all time. Oh, wow. And I'll just say, by the end of it, I was... Did not feel like that. I'll just say my joke reaction, which was, I think, after seeing the rest of the movie, I was like, I think maybe this movie was written by AI.

1:00:22 It wasn't. It had that type of storytelling where I was like, hold up, what?

1:00:28 Sometimes Korean movies and dramas will have kind of like a crazy ending.

1:00:32 Yeah, that's what I was told. There's a commentary about Korean cinema that I simply do not understand. I acknowledge that. But when this movie comes out on Blu-ray, I'm for real genuinely thinking about pulling it into fucking Avid or Premiere or whatever the fuck and cutting the movie that I thought it was going to be.

1:00:54 Yeah You can see Take this bit I'm a fan of it It's a three hour movie I love the first hour And a half so much And I The second half Was not to my.

1:01:05 Taste Is what I will say Well we will But I do want everyone To see it I want y'all to see it Release the tea cut I need someone to Tell me I'm wrong Or I just don't know What the hell happens In the back half Yeah yeah yeah.

1:01:18 Okay Last movie I saw In the theater Was The Faculty And I'd never seen it before Ooh But Josh Hartnett Yeah, I'd never seen it before. It was funny as fuck.

1:01:28 Is that like a possession or like alien possession kind of?

1:01:33 It's basically like an invasion of the body searchers type of vibe, you know, at like a high school. Like set in like a high school.

1:01:40 I kind of remember it. Yeah, man.

1:01:43 Usher was in it.

1:01:44 It's a star studded. Like baby Usher. Yes.

1:01:51 It's a very star-studded movie. They got everybody in that movie.

1:01:55 Like, Usher looks like he's 13 in this movie. Yeah, he really does. He really does.

1:02:00 They all kind of look, actually... You know how normally when there's people in high school, they're absolutely like 30 years old?

1:02:07 Yeah, yeah. I kind of... Are you guys watching Carrie? Not to.

1:02:10 Oh, no.

1:02:12 There's a boyfriend character in Carrie who is the widest 27-year-old man I've ever seen in a high school. Like, supposed to be 16. It's just like he's like.

1:02:22 You're just like, sir, you are.

1:02:26 Too old to be an asshole. You look great. You look great. But you got to take that letter jacket off because that looks crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Carmen, thank you so much for joining us on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where do the people find you, follow you, all that fantastic stuff?

1:02:43 You can find me on Instagram at the Carmen LaRaw. And yeah, just other than that, producing all my pods and stuff.

1:02:54 Check them out.

1:02:54 Thanks for having me on.

1:02:55 Yeah. And is there a work in media that you've been enjoying?

1:02:59 Oh, my God. I had a problematic one that I've been enjoying too much. And I'm like, you know, I'm going to keep that under wraps.

1:03:07 Okay.

1:03:08 It's an incel guy that he's like a crazy incel. Because, you know, I'm not trying to like platform an incel.

1:03:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But your morbid obsession is. Yes, I have like this. You know me.

1:03:20 I have like weird.

1:03:21 I have weird internet.

1:03:23 Yes, I have weird internet obsession.

1:03:25 Yes, for sure. But.

1:03:26 One that is not that problematic is one of my favorite drag queens recently out of Drag Race is Corey King. And recently, Corey King and Plain Jane have done a... Corey King often makes herself over as different people. And they have done a Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star... going to the Dollar Tree video recently because I don't know if anybody, this is, like, just gay makeup world kind of news, but, like, Jeffree Star, famed, like, racist, loser, like, MAGA idiot with a failing makeup brand has recently, like, his makeup has recently started popping up in the Dollar Tree. And...

1:04:16 you know, is kind of like maybe a sign of like, Oh, the brand is not strong.

1:04:21 Yeah.

1:04:21 The brand not doing so hot. And so Corey King, who is, um, a drag queen from RuPaul's drag race and also like content creator on YouTube and playing Jane to Shane Dawson and Jeffrey star, like makeover video. And they went to the dollar tree together, but it's quite funny. And I've just, been enjoying i've been on my like youtube drag content recently and that's been giving me joy okay yeah.

1:04:49 You gotta find it and you gotta embrace it yeah andrew what about you thank you for joining us where do they find you what's the work of media you've been enjoying.

1:04:58 Um i guess andrew t on whatever social media i guess.

1:05:03 Uh Oh, yes. Change. The Yo, Is This Racist podcast has sunsetted and we've replaced it with the Starter Track podcast where me and Tawny Newsome and Jesse Gender, they're making me watch Star Trek episodes. I don't know what the hell's going on. It's very fun. And a work of media. Listen, I already blew it, but I just need someone else to watch the first hour and a half, which is only 50% of the movie of Hope, and just tell me what Just assure me that I'm not out of my mind. Right, right, right. Okay. Let's do it.

1:05:40 I'm going to check it out, actually, Andrew.

1:05:42 It's so good. It's so good for an hour and a half. It's like Jaws meets the new Resident Evil. Really? It's so good. Is it a horror? Is it a horror? It's kind of a thriller. It's not like a thriller.

1:05:58 No, it's like an action horror-y kind of thing until it super duper is not.

1:06:05 Yeah, I'll check it out because I like a lot of... I don't want to spoil it, but it takes such a bizarre turn that I'm just like, I don't know what's happening.

1:06:13 I'm into it. I'll check it out.

1:06:14 I don't know what's happening. Please. Me. Find me everywhere. At Miles of Grey. Talking about 90 Day Fiancé on 420 Day Fiancé. You can also catch me talking about the English Premier League and Champions League on Ain't It Footy with Jamal Johnson. Oh my God. Chris Martin. Wait, what's the two minutes on Man City? No, ten seconds on Man City. Man City, guilty as fuck. They need to have the title stripped. They need to be relegated into fucking the shadow realm. And they need to claw their fucking way back into the Premier League. They need to go three leagues down before they are able to repent for the fucking financial doping that they are fucking guilty of as being a state-owned football club.

1:06:53 As somebody that has no idea what's going on, I loved all of that.

1:06:58 I was doing the male sports version of when someone catches the Holy Ghost and goes, Yeah, I was just like, yeah. I was like, oh yeah, Miles has opinions. I'm like, no, but I agree. And also, at gonebabygone.bsky.social posted, it says, the quote, dirtbag left never had any meaning beyond person I beefed with on Twitter during the 2016 primaries. Please free yourselves. Yeah, people are still holding on to it.

1:07:26 It's like, Yeah, yeah. It's been fucking 10 years.

1:07:31 God, 2016, 10 years ago, blows your mind to think about, right?

1:07:34 It feels like 100 based on how fucking far we've just tumbled to. Oh, truly. A lot of people have... I've seen a lot of posts on the internet with people being like, does it feel like we've kind of lost our ability to enjoy things since 2020? And I'm like... Absolutely.

1:07:52 And social interaction.

1:07:53 Yeah.

1:07:53 I think a lot of it has to do with how... much you were engaged with how dark the world actually is and i think 2020 was kind of a moment where like a lot of stuff came to the forefront and you had the time to kind of interrogate a lot of things also a lot of facades fell away yeah you used to just be like that guy's kind of conservative or whatever and now it's like oh you believe in oh you're racist fairy tales you're just blaming me that's such a weird fucking display name. I think it's, yeah, you, you can't sweep like anything out of the rug anymore. Basically.

1:08:30 Once you learn one thing about someone, you're like, Oh, that means you believe a lot of shit. I also, I also find like some things feel so frivolous too. Like I'm like, what? Like, Some things are just like so unserious now like that. I'm like, we can't like everything's too serious right now. I can't. Do we want to take the plug section of this show and go into a complete existential spiral? Yeah, I think so. This is why people need to listen all the way through.

1:08:56 We were like recommending tweets.

1:08:59 Yeah.

1:09:00 Hey, I got another tweet for you, actually. I don't even know who it's from, but I saw it online. Gypsy Rose said, Oh, you thought I was a one-hit wonder bitch? Time for round two, motherfucker.

1:09:13 Oh my god, Gypsy. We haven't even talked about that. That is also wild. You haven't? Oh my god. All right. Anyway, you can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. Go to the description of the episode, wherever you're listening now. Go to the bottom. You want to read the articles we talked about?

1:09:28 That's where you'll find the footnotes. Footnotes. Thank you. Which is where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we think you might enjoy. The song I think you might enjoy is I Don't Care. It's called I Don't Care by the MC Ural Droog, produced by Flying Lotus. Flying Lotus hasn't really produced like a kind of like more straightforward hip hop beat. Like, I mean, he's done definitely stuff over the years, but it's like a new one.

1:09:56 And I always like to see that he's still got it in him. So I don't care. Your old Drew Flying Lotus featuring Georgia Ann Muldrow on vocals, who's another frequent collaborator with Flying Lotus. So it's got a very like brain feeder vibe to it. If you're familiar with that label. So check that track out. and take that with you into your wonderful weekend because it is fucking Friday.

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