Weekly Zeitgeist 452 (Best of 10/12/26-10/16/26)

0:00 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza.

0:18 Yeah.

0:19 So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. What is something from your search history that's revealing about.

0:27 Who you are? Oh, my God. I wasn't prepared for this. Something for my search. Can I go look at it right now? Let's go. Let's check. Let's dive deep.

0:38 So I use a search engine called Kagi. It's a paid search engine. Let's see if it has my search engine. It's a paid search engine? Yeah, it's a paid search. It's like $ 100 a year, and it doesn't track. It has no ads.

0:52 Oh, wow.

0:52 And it has a lot of features that Google doesn't have. For instance, you can tell it to exclude certain sources if you're like, I don't ever want to hear from this again.

0:58 Right. And it'll remember that? It'll remember that. Yeah.

1:04 It also has, if you got to use AI, it has an AI assistant that doesn't feed any of the models, any of your data and stuff like that.

1:12 Um, it's a good site and it's not fucking loading my, um, anything you've been curious about of late Godzilla video.

1:20 Uh, I've been, um, you know, I've been spending a lot of time shopping for vintage ceramic dishware.

1:29 I got really into, okay, so this will connect to who I am.

1:34 Because after I became single again, I was decorating my place for the very first time. And I was like, I don't like the dishes. I don't like the dishes that I've had for so many years. I want to pick out new dishes. And I got really into Heath ceramics, which is like heritage ceramics from California. I'm like, I live in L.A. It's mid-century modern. I'm going to get the dishes. And I just went so deep on like. okay, like this is the pattern. This pattern was created in 1945 and by Edith Heath. And it's come in this many glazes. And sometimes I'm like, so I'm like, okay, I want, I need more dessert bowls, but they discontinued the obsidian glaze. Can I find anybody on the secondhand sites who's selling dessert bowls and obsidian? Cause that'll go

2:17 good with my moonstone. And one of the first things I did was I bought some of the plates from them.

2:23 They had an annual edition that came in like green. And I was like, oh, that's nice. I'll get green plates. And then afterwards, I was so, I was like, I shouldn't have got green. That was so stupid. It looks like it's from the 70s. What was it? I don't like the decor.

2:33 Like, I was really, like, feeling so much of these places, so much about my personality.

2:38 Yeah, I get that, too. Like, what was it like when you looked at your old plates and you're like, man, fuck. these plates like what was it about them it just were like i'm not this person anymore i.

2:48 Mean some of the plates had been uh literally i had since before me and my ex were together for 15 years and i had some of those plates from like before we were using the same plates that i like my parents that got me in college they weren't bad yeah but i was just like this i didn't make a choice of this stuff yeah and then everything else in the house like most of the dishware and stuff was stuff she had picked out because she's an artist she had a great taste yeah you know just she wanted to do that. I like never made any of those decisions. And, and I felt like, I don't know who I am. I don't know what my own style is.

3:20 Am I a moonstone or a obsidian glaze? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

3:25 And you know, like she, after she moved out, we're still very close. And so I know the dishes she bought.

3:29 She bought corral. That's the very thin place. They're like made of glass. Thin and sturdy.

3:33 Yeah.

3:34 And I was like, no, that's not me. I need stoneware. There you go. I need heavy clay. And I just got really deep into it. That's going to last.

3:41 Now I don't get their mugs. I get a Hasami porcelain mugs. You know, Hasami porcelain.

3:45 No.

3:46 Japanese. I know Hasami means scissors. Oh, it means scissor?

3:49 Well, there's a wonderful Japanese pottery maker called Hasami that makes like mugs that are sort of like all very pleasingly the same size and they stack and stuff and they're sort of rough. So I'm, so I've, yeah, I've gotten really into ceramics.

4:04 I like your ceramics. Bring in some intentionality. into that part of your life.

4:08 I'm a big believer if you if you really dive deep into what you like if you ask yourself about any part of your life right we do a lot with music or movies as as guys but like we do it more rarely with stuff in our house but if you go like what kind of furniture do i like do i want it to be comfy do i want it to look good do i want it or anything like that if you start thinking about that and really figure out what you like, you will learn things about yourself.

4:33 Yeah.

4:34 More defined as a person. And it's really fun. Yeah. They're just like, okay, I want, But when I pick up a dish, like, what do I value?

4:41 Yeah.

4:41 What feels good to me? No, I went through the exact same thing after the fire because you, like, literally start over with stuff. And I'm like, well, now, because I had the same thing. I had plates from fucking college.

4:51 Right.

4:52 And I was like, well, now I'm starting over. And, like, one of the first things I bought were, like, these, like, really, like, these Japanese glass drinking glasses that are, like, in ramen shops. Like, they're not expensive. But for me, they're very specific, like, texture. And I have sense memory, like, with these cups that I was, like. Then I very much learned. I'm like, for me, my style is like sort of going into my own personal history and finding things that resonate with that.

5:15 You know, we learn. Yeah, that's great.

5:17 And then every time you touch it, you feel like you're getting in touch with a piece of yourself.

5:21 Exactly. If someone says, oh, I like these, you have something nice to say about it, connects you. Right. Before I'd be like, I don't know, I got in college or some shit. I don't know. And then you're like, God, okay, thanks. I don't know. Don't look at me. What is something, Jody, that you think is underrated? Live radio.

5:39 And I know we're saying this as real podcast people, but I'll put it this way to you. I've been watching, as I'm sure you have too, a kind of re-embrace of a lot of old media, right? Like there's records are coming back. Going to the movies is coming back. People are, you know, reading a little bit again as well.

5:58 And I feel like the final frontier is live radio. Like is live radio actually going to come back and get re-embraced? And as certainly in my world, it has. And I got my start in live radio, you know, and I'm doing some stuff with WNYC later this fall. But like I recently bought an alarm clock radio again.

6:13 And I wake up to just like whatever Z100 wants to play me at that moment.

6:17 Like just straight up FM radio.

6:18 Straight up FM radio, alarm clock radio. My daughter has one too. You know, some days it's just like, Phil Collins, here you go. This is going to happen to you when you wake up.

6:30 It's great.

6:31 My daughter did walk in the other day and she was like, It's just a lot of like celebrity gossip and ads.

6:36 And I'm like, yeah, well, welcome to. It is a lot of celebrity gossip.

6:38 But every once in a while you get a random song.

6:41 But I don't know.

6:42 I mean, just, you know, I've kind of fallen back in love with the magic of live radio. But more importantly, I'm very curious to see, as I said, if it will kind of like be re-embraced in some way in the way that a lot of old sort of.

6:53 I tell you, it's good for small talk. It's good for small talk when you're listening to the radio and you just know shit that's happening. Like, you know, you're just kind of in the same bath with everybody.

7:04 If Anne Hathaway's co-stars had listened to the live radio, they would.

7:09 Know who O.J. is. Probably listening to some weird, obscure podcast or something.

7:17 Yeah. Shout out to live radio. There is something nice about it. the ads are like so bad that they can often be entertaining sometimes. Yeah.

7:26 So yeah. I mean, radio was like definitely the way I even wanted to got interested in podcasting. Cause I loved the radio as a kid. Like, like especially growing up in LA, like big boy was such a huge like presence that I was like, Oh, you can be like witty. And that's a job that isn't necessarily like you're a comedian or an actor or something. It's like, If you just have like the gift of being able to have good conversation and keep people engaged, like that's a whole career. Yeah, I love I love the idea of radio being like being resurgent. But I guess it's like it's I wonder if like the types of people you hear will change because we're still kind of have like that very polished radio type vibe. Yeah, that's sort

8:08 of like predominant, like on adult contemporary radio stations and things like this. When are we going to start getting that disinterested Gen Z kind of tone on the air? Hopefully it doesn't change for guys who talk like this. I hope not, man, because the bottom falls out. I got three kids in college.

8:25 But even more so, I mean, I do think like, you know, radio, like a lot of things has gotten like very sort of, there's a whole programmatic side to it and there's a sort of regression to the middle and it all sort of sounds the same. And I do wonder if part of the, things that people are seeking out is something that's a little rougher around the edges and, you know, whether the kind of, like, free-form radio that I grew up loving, the, like, I can only hear these two songs back-to-back because a real human being decided, for whatever reason, to play them back-to-back, as opposed to some algorithm. I wonder if that's going to come back. That's, like, the even next level. But, you know, I do think, like, There's a lot of radio stations

9:01 you listen to right now, and they are, for all intents and purposes, your Spotify algorithm, right? Some machine has decided that this is the sequence of songs. But then there's other radio where you're like, oh, I'm actually connecting with a real human being in real time here, which I think is the thing that people, I'm being wishful here, but the thing that I think people are starting to crave more and more.

9:19 Yeah. There's a radio station that has that, like the SoCal sound is kind of like this, you know, up and come. It's been around, but it's like really getting popular because like Matt Enfield and like Nick Harcourt, these other like people from like LA radio or like MTV have their shows. And like, they're the ones, you know, creating their playlists and it really does have that feeling like especially like for as a millennial like when you hear matt pinfield be like yeah all right you're gonna like this next band and i'm like yeah all right matt pinfield like let me know about this and you can say so matt pinfield yeah and he's and he knows this shit so it's like i i definitely appreciate that part too is like it feels like intentional or

9:54 like well this person's just going to take me through some records that feel good today. And yeah, I enjoy that.

10:00 I was dialed, like there was a point in my childhood where I was like so dialed in that like there was a, like the one station that played rap music at all in Dayton, Ohio when I was like, you know.

10:12 10 or 11.

10:15 They got taken over by a different radio station. And so as a form of protest, they played It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday over and over for 24 hours in a row.

10:26 And I remember being like, that's so badass, listening to it over and over again. Hour six.

10:32 It actually gets better as you keep listening to it. Yeah, I was up on the local radio gossip, you know?

10:39 Yeah. So shout out to Z93.

10:42 Yeah.

10:43 Which I do when I check in with people from Dayton. I'm like, you guys still listen to Z93? They're like, nope. But it's still out there. It's QAnon stuff now. What is, Katie, something that you think is overrated?

10:58 Well, I don't want to like.

11:00 I did see in the doc, we're maybe going to talk about the Kelly Clarkson thing.

11:05 No, no. We talked about it yesterday. We already talked about it. Ignore that. Let it rip. Okay. Okay. I mean, like.

11:13 I was going to say that like when you go into a store and they have like the most amazing bird thing and it dances for you. I think that whole like the artisanal store when they're like, this is not just a store, but it's an experience. I don't know that I want an experience when I go to a store personally. Like, I just want to I want to get in. Get my birds and get out.

11:45 Return to base. Mission complete. Right.

11:48 Like if I go in there and they're like, I'm going to blow your mind.

11:52 Sure. With this bird. You're like, it better be with the discount you're going to hit me with. Yeah.

11:57 It's like I need I can't I can't I this can't happen every time I go shopping. I can't like like for there's a store. that I have seen where it's like this like curiosity stores. I hate curiosity stores because they're always like, oh, here's like a death mask of someone from the 1700s. Aren't you curious? And it's like, no, I'm I want bread and ice cream.

12:27 You dick. Well, then they go, well, why'd you come in here? Why'd you come to the curiosity store? Because those are the things I'm curious about. Bread and ice cream. Do you have them? I'm curious.

12:39 I don't want, like, I went in there because I thought, oh, I'm curious. And there was a, like, dead chihuahua head there.

12:48 No.

12:49 Mounted to the wall.

12:51 It's like, guys, I don't want to buy that. What is a curiosity store? What are we talking about here? Because you just described being like, and there's dead animals on the wall. I'm like, eh?

13:02 I mean, this store, like, describes itself as, like, you know... like antique items. And I guess it's an antique.

13:12 Oh, like oddities or something.

13:15 Oddities.

13:16 Yeah. I would say they're not going to have milk in there though. 10 times out of 10.

13:20 Usually, you know, I mean, I, I'm just saying that like, I could also go.

13:26 For a book or an iPhone. I don't know.

13:30 I don't want to go into a store and then suddenly a life-size human puppet descends from the ceiling and starts dancing. That's not cool.

13:44 So I don't know what I don't.

13:45 Know if you guys sided with Kelly Clarkson or not, but I don't I don't like any of I don't think that we should have any. I don't think we should have any of that ever.

13:53 None of that. I don't know. I don't side with Kelly Clarkson because I don't I can't identify with the injury that she's claiming she suffered, which I'm pretty sure is still I wanted to buy a thing that wasn't for sale. And they said no. Or I wanted to buy a thing that wasn't for sale and they were rude to me about it. I'm still like, It is a cool bird, though.

14:16 Did you see the bird?

14:17 Yeah, I get it. Made by some artisanal German clockmaker person. And they had another one they could offer her, I heard, that was identical. Like, it's weird because now there's more details coming. Well, then we also offered her an alternative one. We don't know too much about this. Yeah, and that's when I'm like, this is so fucking stupid. Like, fuck all this, dude. She's in there complaining because they wouldn't sell her a thing for 15 grand. I don't fucking care.

14:41 This is also my complaint with museums, too. I walk in there. I'm like, give me that for thirty dollars.

14:47 They're like, no, we have a gift shop.

14:49 I'm like, no, I want that one. Give me that one on the one.

14:52 Yeah.

14:53 Yeah. Yeah. I get it. You want me down.

14:56 Yeah.

14:57 Give me that now. It's not for sale. I said now I'm going to tweet about it and I'll have one lonely person come outside with an I'm stand with Kelly Clarkson side in the rain. Do you want that? I don't know.

15:10 I have a feeling everybody is wrong or like both sides are kind of wrong in this one. I just feel like people were probably weird and annoying.

15:20 I'm just going to side with a wage worker over a millionaire 10 times out of 10. I don't care. Like there's nothing they can do to hurt you unless they're being like actually like fucked up and discriminatory. Yeah, I think that's right.

15:31 There's also something disgusting about taking a bird automaton and owning it privately. I find that weird. It is meant to.

15:44 Be shared with the world, right?

15:46 Right.

15:46 It's like when it's out in public and then they're like, here's our delightful little mechanical bird.

15:51 Watch it.

15:52 And then the children clap.

15:53 It's like, okay, sure.

15:54 That's delightful. Or like at a museum when Kelly Clarkson is like, I have a bird in my house. It's like, it's weird.

16:04 Yeah.

16:04 Yeah.

16:04 And I don't, you know, so, you.

16:07 Know, we also found it weird how you kept inquiring if buying it would allow you to have its soul as well. We thought that was a weird line of questioning. Yeah.

16:18 It's not an Ursula Little Mermaid situation.

16:20 Can you do this to a human body?

16:22 She kept screaming. I just love the idea, Katie, to your point of like having to take this like bird for people's public enjoyment and taking it for yourself and making it private. Like she's in the store and she sees all the kids like getting all the joy from it and kind of looking around like, what the fuck?

16:39 They like this bird. No, no, no. I'd like to buy this. Yeah. Enough of that. I need to have this. But I like joy. Yeah.

16:47 First, you hunch over the child and try and inhale the joy from his face. But when that doesn't work, you have to try and acquire the joy maker.

16:57 Why can't I feel it? The story's like, all right, Ms. Clarkson, we didn't want to tell the actual story. You were sniffing the kids' heads in there. And you tried to make it about the bird. We asked you to leave, and you're just making our customers uncomfortable. And you said, fine, I'll take the joy maker. Give me that. And then you said, fine, I guess no one's getting these tickets to Hollywood. He pulled out an old American Idol prop.

17:22 All right.

17:23 Well, we're going to take a quick break and we're going to come back. We're going to talk about a lot of fun stuff happening. We're going to catch Katie up real quick on the state of things in the United States.

17:32 Our barbaric republic.

17:34 I'm so excited.

17:35 It'll be really fun. And we're back. Just want to check in with the midterms because we're about four, three, two-ish weeks out. What, four weeks, three weeks out?

17:55 Yeah.

17:56 First of all, just quick stuff just to get people up on things. Ohio is reporting like in their early in-person voting numbers has drawn nearly four times as many voters as it did at the same point in the Joe Byron midterms. So, okay, people are out there. They realize there's a Senate race. The Senate math definitely matters in that state. In Texas, though, Texas somehow, they had a little bit of a, quote, glitch that ended, resulted in a failure to send out 600,000 ballots. This is from The Guardian, quote, Texas election officials are struggling to process a massive backlog of nearly 600,000 voter registration applications after a major state computer system failure just days before early voting is set to open on Monday. The disruption

18:42 has raised serious concerns about the state's voter registration system with voting rights organizations accusing Texas officials of failing to ensure that eligible voters could properly register. The problem originated from a software error involving the Texas Department of Safety. According to a lawsuit that was filed last week, the glitch affected a Web site used for driver's license applications that was also designed to allow Texans to register to vote.

19:07 guess what happened the lawsuit alleges between october 2025 and february 2026 residents who selected yes when asked whether they wanted to register to vote were given receipts confirming their selections however their registration information was never actually recorded yeah So it's just a box that did nothing, basically. Yeah. Yeah.

19:31 It was a computer glitch. You know, I don't know. It's very convenient computer glitch when you have another like the most money being poured into a Senate race in this Paxton, Tallarico Senate race. And now a computer glitch and like 600,000 people aren't going to get their ballots. Yeah. Or going to have to really do go the extra mile to make sure they are registered. So whether they're voting in person or not, that's just another fucking hoop to jump through. So if you live in Texas, you may need to check in on that. If you're interested in voting, you know, that might be a thing worth looking to. I just voted in Georgia. It was easy. Wait, did I mention that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you get

20:10 the sticker? You're mentioning twice. Do they have a good sticker? Do they have a good sticker in Georgia?

20:15 Oh, yeah, we do.

20:16 We have the peach, which I love.

20:20 Oh, that's nice. Ours are fucking so busted and normal. Do you guys want one? We can fill out mine on air right now. Oh, yeah. I got mine right here at the desk. Ours, straight down. Yeah, or down the.

20:32 I did a little canvassing for old Nithya Raman.

20:38 Their other candidates are available in Los Angeles. And I did get to talk to a... Had a lengthy conversation with a Spencer Pratt supporter.

20:47 Oh, wow. Oh, wow. That must have been fun. What part of town was wild? Echo Park. Oh, wow. It was a chiropractor. Oh, wow. A chiropractor. Ten out of ten doctors who go, I'm a doctor, and they go, you're a chiropractor, bro. Yeah, yeah. He struck me as.

21:10 Like a, by way of RFK, like crank.

21:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. How old is he? Old white guy. I mean, there's so many levels. 70s? Moderate.

21:24 Old. 60s.

21:25 How red and how, like, red in the face was he?

21:30 Yeah.

21:31 He was.

21:32 It was so hot out. You know, I don't know if he got more red in the face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did he say? Like, when he said... Because, I mean, I remember when, you know, I was canvassing a lot. You'd go to a door of someone who clearly wasn't with what you were talking about. Yeah. Did he give you the old... Was he sarcastic? Or would he go, just want to let you know, I'll never vote for Nithya.

21:53 And then he went into a monologue. What kind of interaction was it?

21:56 He started with like, well, because I think it was some version of like, hey, you know, do you know about Nithya Raman?

22:03 And it was like, I know she stole the election from Spencer Pratt. Oh, so he's real low info. Yeah, it was rough. Yeah, it was. That part was really rough.

22:12 And then, listen, shout out to everyone volunteering for any, honestly, any political campaign. The more the better, even if, well, no one's actually volunteering for any of these horrible folks.

22:23 However, if it's for Hakeem Jeffries.

22:25 The person with me was a very nice guy who I would maybe also categorize in somewhat of the low info sort of guy.

22:35 Sure, sure.

22:35 Because he was like, let's talk to him. Let's get into it. And I was just like... It was one of those things I was like, I don't know, man.

22:42 I'm just.

22:44 that this is not going to be a good use of our time.

22:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like we could be knocking on doors and actually converting people that might be on the fence rather than a guy who's like, I subscribe to Spencer's YouTube channel. I don't know how those votes come in. That part was rough.

22:57 Because again, everyone's, not everyone, one of the parties in the story is not very nice, but the other person.

23:04 Yeah. Well, and that's all part of your, you know, people's political evolution. Get out there. Or not. Learn what you like, learn what you don't like, and then you figure it out. Direction, you know, things are moving in directions, I guess.

23:16 Yeah.

23:16 But this was wild.

23:16 This was the wildest conversation I've had in Los Angeles, I will say.

23:20 Wow, wow. Which is, that speaks a little bit to my bubble, I suppose.

23:24 Yeah.

23:24 I remember. I was like, this shit is crazy. When I was at. This man is like actually on a different planet. When I was at Conde Nast, I went to like one of the early Trump rallies in Orange County in 2016. Oh. And no, 2015. And that's when I was like, Ooh, y'all are talking like it's the 1950s. And yeah, you're really. And I, at the time I was naive enough to be like, he's got too many negatives against him for him to win a national election.

23:52 I was very much. You know what? I was in my blue black. Yeah. Well, I was, I was producing like content and stuff. So, and I, and I wanted to go because like, we should go, like, we need to put cameras, like we need to put microphones. Yeah. Anyway, Pretty freaky shit. All right. So also, I just want to point out on the thing or on the thing when we're talking about the turnout and things like that, you know, it's quadruple what Joe Biden, what the turnout was for Joe Biden in 2022. He obviously still in a midterm. Yeah, still in the midterm. Still in the midterm, which is low. Lower, obviously, than the general election. Always low.

24:30 But this was also midterms where people were very much talking about inflation and Joe Biden's role in it, even though it's his inability to come back, corporate greed. But yeah, we'll call it that. And at the time, I just want to point at some polling that was happening at the time. Biden had about 29% approval in those midterms on the topic of inflation, right? Trump is currently at 22% approval.

24:55 He's even lower than Joe Byron was when he, uh, when, you know, he lost the house.

25:01 Um, so look, you know, I think we're, we're talking about, this is the 7% of humanity.

25:07 That's like, I fucking love Donald Trump. 7%. Yeah.

25:12 Like a third of those people are like the inflation thing. That was kind of fucking.

25:17 I mean, account and pretend the numbers you're seeing aren't the numbers that you're fucking seeing. And I think that's where the rubber meets the road.

25:28 Yeah.

25:28 And also like there was another poll that came out that was saying that like three in 10 voters who are like voting against Republicans want total upheaval of our governance system. Like that's like that's a new bracket of people that are so outraged over the status quo that they're like, no, I'm not. I want some change. Yes.

25:48 I want total upheaval. Yeah.

25:50 Yeah.

25:50 And those numbers are only going to grow as long as you have, you know, politicians in office that will just hide behind terms like inflation. Because I think that's the thing. People would rather see a Joe Biden at that time be like, no, this is fucking corporate greed, man. Like, we got to fucking do something about it. Like, we got to stop calling this inflation. If he was even out there articulating something like that, that probably could have helped.

26:11 But again, key teams don't just have to be for political figures.

26:14 Yes.

26:15 Certainly. Certainly not. That's me quoting... alternate universe, Joe Biden. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They don't want to find out. You know what I mean? They don't want to find out.

26:27 Yeah.

26:28 So let's move on to the state of Texas. I guess stay in the state of Texas. We were just talking about their ballot registration system. But Texas's SB 12 Senate Bill 12 is one of those laws that was passed last year. That is like the Florida don't say gay bill. It's a bill disguised as a way for parents to be in control about what their children are learning in our public schools. When really it's just to completely censor subjects like DEI, racial equity and anything related to like sexuality or gender identity, LGBTQ plus topics, anything like that. It's like don't bring it in. Don't even bring it into the consciousness of these kids. The bill, obviously, just another step towards the Project 2025 fascistic takeover of

27:12 education to create mindless students who will be taught that there are only two genders, Coke or Pepsi. And this has nothing to do with parental rights. The law, again, it's so far reaching in sort of it's like nebulous definitions to just sort of like criminalize anything of like that's outside of like cishet culture.

27:34 Right.

27:34 That it's ended the high school production of Little Shop of Horrors because a girl was cast as the as the male lead as Seymour. Yeah. They they first tried to recast her.

27:48 Which, by the way, Seymour, not exactly like peak masculinity or anything like that, you know. And also his I mean, sorry to butt in here about this, but like throughout the history of theater.

28:05 Yeah.

28:06 Like women have played like Peter Pan, but most of all, men have played women in theater. That's where drag even. Yeah.

28:16 Think about Shakespeare. Like women weren't on stage.

28:18 That's where drag, the term drag addressed as girls comes from, from Shakespeare theater. And so it's like, But these people don't care about that, obviously.

28:27 No, no, no. This is merely because they're like, girl dressed as not girl?

28:32 Yeah.

28:33 Then this is a crime. I just want to share a clip of the local news broadcast of them talking about it. Because it's just... It's just so stupid to even hear people talking out loud about how this is a problem. We're going to hear from the girl, Anna Mota, who is like the high school student who got cast in the role of Seymour, who then had the role taken away because, again, she's a girl playing a boy in a play.

28:58 The traditionally male lead in Little Shop of Horrors.

29:01 After I found out I got the role, I would drive to school and I would listen to just the soundtrack and to work and just the soundtrack.

29:08 But five days later, she was told she wouldn't be allowed to play the part.

29:11 She says the district wanted to replace her with a male student and have her share the role of the female lead.

29:17 She declined.

29:18 It wasn't the role I was given. It wasn't the role I earned. And I know that if I earn something, then... I want to carry out and I want to do that. But if I don't, then I don't.

29:26 Mota says she had a problem with the district's reasoning. She'd already played three male characters before at the same screen. She says district officials told her it was different this time because it was a romantic role.

29:40 What? She fell in love with a fucking plant?

29:47 I will say when you first brought this story up, I did think that there was a chance it was because a male was Audrey 2.

29:55 Yeah.

29:56 Yeah.

29:58 No, I mean, and I am actually surprised that it's caused as much of an uproar as it has, because typically it would be like a male and like, and like female drag.

30:08 Right.

30:08 But yeah, this is, I mean, to be quite honest with you, like I went to high school in Georgia. I mean, it's not that much different than Texas. Of course, there's these insane laws in place now. But like, even when I was in high school, like, you know, there was shit like this. Like, I remember... My principal called me when I was in like 10th or 9th or 10th grade called me to tell me I couldn't come to homecoming because, you know, I was going to wear a dress. And he said, well, you can't wear a dress to homecoming. You have to wear like a suit.

30:43 And I was like, well, I'm not going to do that. And so he was like, well, you can't come. And I feel like that's just kind of like a standard thing. kind of practice in the schools in the South.

30:52 Yeah, to just discriminate like that, yeah.

30:54 Yeah, and now they have a law where they can say, okay, well, this is the law that backs us up, and it's.

30:59 Just absolutely stupid. That's what the school district is kind of doing, where they're like, oh, look, we just need to be in compliance with the state law. That's what this is about, to try and, again, pass the buck. But at the end of the day, you're... you're keeping a child from engaging with like an art form that they're clearly very passionate about. She's talking about she's going to work, she's listening to the soundtrack, she's doing everything she should be doing. And you're going to just fucking deny her this opportunity because of this bullshit law. And it's a tradition of the art form. Yeah, exactly. Like, how many times have you, I've seen Peter Pan, I don't know if I've ever seen somebody play Peter Pan

31:38 that wasn't a girl or a woman, like on stage. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I went to high school in California, so this happened and it wasn't that big of a deal where she also mentions, and she's been doing like, she's been interviewed a lot of times by local news because it's like a big story there. And she said, too, You know, like a lot of the times there aren't a lot of guys who are in theater and there's a lot of roles. Because they're not as interested in it.

31:59 They're doing sports. Yeah. And they get bullied for it. And we just we step in and we just play a role because it's theater. That's true. It's a performance.

32:09 Yes.

32:10 Again, the legal argument, like you're saying, it's about SB 12. When the wording there, it's about prohibiting sexually oriented performance on public property in the presence of anyone under 18. And I guess that's what they're trying to say is because Seymour is in love with the plant. The female plant.

32:27 Yeah.

32:28 Like any suggestion that something might be not cis, not hetero is sexually oriented.

32:34 Yeah.

32:34 That's the part that's like, what the hell are you talking about?

32:37 Yeah. But she has said in other interviews, she's like, well, you know, like she may, there may be some like legal help coming into because she's like, this feels like a Title IX violation because I'm being denied an opportunity and discriminated against based on sex. I'm not doing anything other than I'm playing Seymour in Little Shop of Horrors in a high school play. And this really does feel like kind of when you see the sort of goals of this Project 2025 conservative movement. manifest in the most mundane ways of our day-to-day lives, which isn't just like, they're shutting down this clinic because they're helping people transition or whatever. It's like, this girl is playing a boy.

33:20 It's like stupid ass. It's like comedic almost, and it's stupidity.

33:25 And I'm not even sure if it was mentioned here, but I'm not sure if this was even reported by somebody where they reported it to the school or reported it to the school board.

33:36 Complained.

33:37 Or if it was just, well, the school made this decision and then they had this law to kind of back it up.

33:44 But it's just, It's just fucking stupid. Yeah. Yeah.

33:48 Right.

33:48 Exactly. Even if they have like the fact that they even have a legal argument is.

33:52 Yes.

33:53 Whether or not they were saying you need to enforce it, I think is moved.

33:56 Yeah.

33:56 Because precisely. Not to get all like daily showy, like, oh, they're hypocrites.

34:00 But like if the performance of a man falling in love with a plant is sexually oriented, it's actually sexually oriented, no matter any of the genders.

34:11 Right.

34:11 And that shouldn't be for kids. Yeah.

34:14 If if you're if it's like the whole play is that then you can't do it for kids.

34:19 Right.

34:19 Well, not otherwise. It's the gender is like not part of it. Yeah. Well, yeah, they're they're they're going to cancel a screening of the clumps soon, too, because they don't want Eddie Murphy dressed as his mother in that scene. All right, well, let's talk about Halloween Horror Nights. Growing up in LA, this was a huge thing. Going to Universal Studios, using one with like your friend group. You could get like 10 bucks off because you had like a Sprite can. You brought a dirty ass Sprite can with you to the gate. But now it's a much bigger thing. It's big in Orlando too. And like this year, they've got all kinds of attractions. They got stuff for Sinners, Evil Dead, and Ozzy Osbourne for some reason. I'm sure

35:04 they were quick to license his likeness.

35:06 Is he a universal property?

35:08 I'm sure, look, maybe Sharon was like, why don't we license his likeness? So I'm not sure what's going to happen if you're just going to hear the voice going, Sharon!

35:21 Sharon!

35:22 Constantly through the park or what but whatever yeah like very slowly yeah shaking damn but the hit of the year obviously Obsession is being represented by an actress playing Nikki who roams throughout the park.

35:40 And when it was first announced a lot of people were like isn't this kind of backwards isn't Nikki the victim of the story not really the villain which is kind of the thrust of the film. And they're like, should we really be putting her up there with the likes of, you know, Chucky the doll or Ozzy Osbourne?

36:01 Is this really what we should be doing? But there was a clip of this woman going around went viral because the character, this character, had to cut a meet and greet short and like break character because she was being screamed at by a bunch of teenagers who don't know how to act. They were just kept, they were just doing the no, no, like just kept screaming, screaming no at her in unison from the film. And I was to the point where she kept trying to talk to these people and then had to be like, I'm so sorry about like, just fully, broke character. Yeah. Just because these kids were just screaming. I think that's nothing new in this post lockdown period of people not knowing how to behave in public. But this has been an

36:46 issue for even since the beginnings of Halloween Horror Night. So, like, back in 2015, the Orlando Sentinel, they had an investigation they published into the violence and harassment that performers are subjected to, including fake zombies being just punched in the face by guests.

37:05 Oh, my God.

37:05 Yeah.

37:06 Another guy got kicked in the face. An intoxicated woman, quote, kicked another actor's stilts and almost knocked him to the ground. Oh, God. Yeah. And Universal's website warns people, if you mistreat any of the Halloween Horror Nights performers, you'll be sent home, parenthetical, possibly in a body bag.

37:27 Oh, yeah.

37:28 It's like little jokes. Good.

37:29 Yeah.

37:30 But employees at the time were like, dude, they're not doing shit. They're like, if anything, they're doing like what the Catholic Church does. And they'd be like, okay, well, don't be in this part. You can go over there now. Do your shit over there. They're just moving people around. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of female employees said, were quitting due to just the widespread sexual harassment they were just facing, being in costume around drunk fucking people, thinking that you're in a costume, so you're some kind of fucking monster, non-human thing. Another one, in 2014, an actor was, quote, attacked by six men, leading to a brawl that resulted in security deploying tear gas and tasers.

38:06 So.

38:07 It's not, look, it's not just, you know, kids who don't know how to act. The big thing, though, that they really point to is, like, the alcohol consumption. Yeah. Because, like, it's a huge earner for the community. Right, right, right. So they're, like, once you, yeah. Yeah, they're balancing profits over the safety of, like, people who are, you know, the workers.

38:28 Especially, and it seems like especially women. This would be, this would, well... And I'm not saying that women shouldn't be scarectures, but maybe this is a time when we would have some men and women's roles so that they're getting beat up as Nikki from Obsession or whatever. And I will say like Obsession, when I still haven't seen it, I was actually in San Fran recovering from my surgery during that time. So I still haven't seen it, but obviously I know about it and I've seen it memed.

39:01 And I do find it funny how the female character nikki is like the meme of the movie when when i'm assuming in actuality it's about how this guy is like a total asshole and this is kind of i guess the new like bro like every few years we get like a new like kind of bro cinema movie and i think this is kind of that for this this generation.

39:27 Well clearly a lot of people the message was lost on a lot of people and i think they just they just latch on to like what was the scary thing yeah yeah.

39:35 Just like with uh uh like all of these other kind of bro cinema movies that pop up that they totally are lost in the message and you know in this case they have like aimed their misogyny.

39:48 At these these Right. Women's characters. If you were a theme park designer worth a damn, the scariest realm would be what happened to Nikki during that movie.

39:59 Yes. Right. Like if you if you as a maze or something trapped in whatever the fuck realm she is, we see we hear her in for like a fraction of a second.

40:08 Yeah.

40:09 What the fuck is happening there?

40:11 It's really i mean i think this is also maybe it's just like this idea like like just one dystopian level further where you can just pay money drink and beat up human beings that's.

40:24 Like yeah right yeah yeah or just like get out some weird deep-seated shit that's like we're getting brought out to you because you see someone on stilts or a clown yeah i think so many people like you know like with horror it There's certain things appeal to people's subconscious on a certain level. And like to go into a place where you're surrounded by that and these people are like dressed up pretending to not be people. And that sounds like a fucking disaster for America because no one is fucking. Everyone needs help.

40:57 During like the zombie Walking Dead era, there's like a whole subgenre of like white dudes that were fantasizing about like zombie apocalypse.

41:04 Apocalypse, yeah. Because it would mean that they would just be able to shoot. Kill people. Yeah, they want to kill people. And then I could protect a woman who will date me because I could shoot the zombies. Yes, exactly. And she will be called... I don't know. I haven't thought of her name yet. But it would be nice.

41:23 The thing that's also wild too, right, is like the alcohol... Everyone says it's the fucking alcohol that is like one of the biggest drivers of the problems. In 2017, the Orlando Sentinel... Just two years after publishing that investigative report about the fucking chaos of being a scare actor at Halloween Horror Nights, they published rules for a Halloween Horror Nights drinking game. Yeah. And then they pulled it down because people were like, oh, fuck yeah, we're doing this.

41:54 And we're getting, quote, a little handsy with the scare actors. Yeah. Which seems like a pretty cavalier way to describe assault. This is how they even talk about it. This is from the archived post of the Sentinel article about the drinking games. It says, so some overzealous partiers get too sloshed and a little handsy with the scaracters. So now I have to give the dad talk. No one likes to be grabbed, goosed, or groped. Just like in the champagne room, there's no touching.

42:25 Yeah.

42:25 And the champagne brown. What the fuck are you talking about in this article? This is what they... This was the little caveat they attached to their drinking game after they know, they're like, yeah, it's the booze. All right, here's how you get fucked up there. And don't goose them, will ya? Yeah. I'm talking about assaulting people. Maybe if you... Like, there's never.

42:46 The phrase a little handsy is never anything other than straight up sexual assault.

42:52 Yeah, that's a very 2017.

42:55 The entire statement is all very like euphemisms, like the champagne room, like all of the like.

43:01 Well, and like the champagne rooms, you're like you're talking about a private dance with a stripper. Right. So we're already making it. What is this? So these people are here for your pleasure. Like you're like and just like the other place where these people are objects to you. Let's not think about the humanity. But also, just no touching, okay?

43:21 No touching. But at least at a fucking strip club, if you're touching, a big-ass bouncer will come and beat the shit out of you or fucking scare the fuck out of you and protect people. They don't have that at Universal. Well, it sounds like they need to have some bouncers. Yeah, maybe they... Because, again, it sounds like everything, like so much of American culture, like where people just don't know how to act is because there's such an inability to tell people to fucking stop or people aren't reprimanded properly. It's always like, well, you know, this person's rich or... well, this person, and we make excuses for not being like, no, bro, stop. This is not some shit to play with. You're fucking out of here.

43:56 But yeah, the customer is always right.

43:59 Is that assault on workers? Yeah, exactly. That's all that phrase exists. Yeah, it is. So anyway, if you're out there, please don't goose or grope them. Okay. Just like the champagne room.

44:11 Don't assault anyone in or out of yeah halloween horror nights or the champagne room.

44:19 I think and also please bring the strip club bouncers to halloween horror nights because in according to like a survey of people who are working as scare actors 82 of them don't report any kind of assault or harassment because they felt it wouldn't matter since nothing happens yeah that's a fucking huge failure damn just to be like It's, I mean, again, reflective of so many transgressions people face in this country, there's always a thing where it's like, I don't even know if anyone, I don't even know if I can receive justice, actually.

44:49 And I'm sure they're paid so well, and I'm sure that there's, you know, benefits and all of this kind of stuff.

44:55 Oh, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. College tuition and all that.

44:58 Yeah.

44:59 All right, let's take another break. When we come back, let's just get fucking swallowed by a whale at this point. Just fucking give it up.

45:04 Please.

45:05 I want a whale's gullet after this. And we're back. We're back. And a new character has entered the chat.

45:23 Yeah.

45:24 In the run-up to the midterm elections. It's, you know, Democrats, Republicans. Out there making their cases to the people.

45:32 Mm-hmm.

45:33 We focus mostly on national politics. And you forget, it's easy to forget that the real fun is at the local level. Not just for how your community can change for the better, but also the kind of, because, you know, there's a little bit of a filter you have to pass to get on the national stage. Local, it's about the people. Unfiltered. And in this case, in Indiana. Marlboro, unfiltered.

45:55 Unfiltered Reds. In this Indiana City Council race, this woman named Jamie West. She seems to have a backstory like a lot of new candidates, people who are new to politics that decided to run given what's happening with this administration. You know, she's a mom. She does gig work and she cares about her local community and the environment. And that inspired her candidacy. And so she had the chance to talk to local news recently and get in front of voters. And shit was a little people think she's wasted.

46:23 Right.

46:24 I think that's the big thing. People think she's wasted. However, I got to say everything she's saying, it's like one of these things where everything she's saying, people are like, no lies detected, though. Right. She may be wasted, but I agree. I agree.

46:35 So this is a legend of drunken master, but like for politics where she just like gets up there and she's like, yeah, this is what I need to.

46:42 She starts off with like a Forrest Gump like line where she's like, and that's all I have to say about that. Yes. So she's finishing. She's finishing. I watched the whole thing, which is also very interesting because the first question is like, why should people trust you as a city councilor? Very down. She's like, I do gig work and I deliver a lot of groceries. If you trust me and deliver your groceries, you can trust me to be the city councilor. And you're like, all right.

47:08 All right. OK, I'm cool with that. So this is where she goes on now. She's asked a question. You'll hear she has a little trouble understanding it, but then gets going and finally delivers the real answer. So here's Jamie West, Democratic candidate in Indiana. Oh, my God. Just from her pose. Yeah, this is her going. And that's all I got to say about that. The posture is the yoga pose beer burp. If I look like.

47:34 This, I wish I could go home and go to bed. I'm too drunk at the bar.

47:39 Glasses off around your neck. So here we go. Jamie West, take it away.

47:42 And that's what I have to say about that.

47:44 That was the opening.

47:46 And our last question of the night is, if elected, what is one decision that you expect to make that may be unpopular with some voters, but you believe ultimately would be in the best interest of Fayette County?

48:00 I wouldn't raise your taxes. What is the one decision that I would make?

48:07 Hmm. Uh-huh.

48:09 Take your time.

48:10 Repeat that again. What is the one decision that I would make that might not be popular?

48:13 Right.

48:14 That may be unpopular with some voters.

48:15 Unpopular with some voters. But is in the best interest of the county.

48:18 Here we go.

48:23 Firing all Republicans. I wouldn't let them.

48:26 I mean.

48:28 I don't even talk to him. I don't like him.

48:30 I mean, they voted against our own state representative voted against her own party.

48:38 I mean... Yeah, I'm not sure what that was about.

48:41 What do you want me to say? I don't like being around him.

48:44 I mean.

48:45 He's doing the thing that when you're so drunk, you're hoping just your facial expressions are going to get the communication across because you don't have the words to be like, I mean, what do you want me to say? These people are fascists. They're opening the door to have their neighbors take a look. He's like, I mean, I don't like them. And they're just like... You just got to get out of here. So I need to see another interview with her.

49:04 I know people like this who are just kind of seem drunk all the time.

49:10 Yeah.

49:11 Before you say she's drunk, I'm like what she could have. A lot of people weren't like the person who first posted on Twitter was like, I was trying to find any information if she had any kind of like neurological condition or anything. I didn't want to just jump into this and be like, check this shit out. They said they couldn't find anything. So they're not going to speculate.

49:27 But they were just like, this is just a wild interview regardless, because she goes on later on to to talk about, you know, like. Democrats are strapped to.

49:38 I think her closing statement They're like what's your closing statement She gives like an equally long like pause And then.

49:44 Here we'll hear her Closing statement because this is where she's That got a lot of headlines and Republicans Are like oh this is really bad For the Democrats.

49:53 We get it you know There are good Republicans out there But then there's these maggots Who are just racist And Aren't very intelligent at all They call you names. They don't share a nephew trying to blow my head off.

50:13 But, you know, what are you going to do?

50:16 Well, that brings us to your opportunity to say just a few last words to the voters.

50:21 Amazing supporting work by the interviewer, by the way. Last words.

50:26 We have guns, too.

50:27 Tell them! In Indiana, definitely. What's your close statement? We got guns, too. I think I sold them all. I love that. I love where she's like, you know, it's so good, Republicans. But then there's these MAGAs. The sheriff's nephew threatened to blow them up. Is that related to MAGA? Or did you... The sheriff's nephew? I mean, the thing is, you know, it's like... So specific. One of those things where, again, I'm watching like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it.

50:58 purge the Republicans from office. I understand that impulse. I understand that you're saying like, yeah, these people are actually the architects or they've raw-rod this terrible wave of American governance in 2026 into our lives. But she also just says like some really interesting shit too. She was asked earlier about data centers.

51:16 Yeah.

51:17 And she was like, I'm against them because I'm an environmentalist. They're bad. And then she's like, well, what would it take for you to accept the construction of a data center in your county? She goes, well, What would it take? They got to pay for everything, first of all. Right. And she's like, what? She's like, everything. Like, you got to make sure everything's clean. Like, the energy, it's got to be solar. It can't be bad, dirty energy. Then the water they use, it can't be water we need.

51:45 They got to figure out how to do that without taking our water. Okay. Also, they need to give every resident in the county a $ 10, 000 annual payment for having the data center. And I'm like, hell yeah. Then she goes, then I want college tuition guaranteed for every child that graduates from the local high school.

52:03 And I was like, what?

52:04 And she was wasted. Whatever was going on. That's awesome. Like she knew how to be like, what's it going to take? Well, it better be transformational for the benefit of every person who lives here. And I was like, it's odd to see like, you know, because you see like racist people end up running for office for the Republicans, obviously.

52:21 And they don't really know much except like they don't like or gay people or something. And that's all they have. This woman is kind of someone like, she doesn't know all the technicalities of governance, but she knows something's deeply wrong.

52:36 Yeah.

52:36 And there's a better way to do it. So I'm kind of like, yeah, all right. Like, I hope this isn't a milkshake duck situation where we find out something else after the fact. Impossible. She seems sturdy. I just love, I love your sentiment. I love where you're coming from. Yeah.

52:50 What's it going to take? Give everybody everything for free. And I'm like, yeah, Yeah, well, we need a little corporate socialism. They got to pay into the thing. We got to create a sovereign wealth fund.

53:03 Right.

53:03 Like, that's wonderful. You know, there's a lady at the end of the bar at the end of the night. She's a little, you want to be dismissive. And then you realize, oh, she's lived a life.

53:12 She's actually spitting facts, kind of. Yeah, she knows.

53:14 Instead of means testing, we just do like blackout testing. Where they just like democratic ideas go through a filter of people.

53:21 Who are just like, what do I do about it? We got guns, too. She ain't scared. So, you know what, Jamie West? I'm really curious to see how your candidacy ends up. And finally, we got to talk Pringles. That's what you're here for. I can't wait. They've announced a surprisingly ghoulish contest. It's called Once You Drop. This is real.

53:46 So.

53:47 This is real. This is real. It's rare that junk food brands.

53:51 Are we participating in stunt marketing right now?

53:54 We are.

53:54 Did they do something so outlandish that they're trying to get guys like you to describe it on podcasts?

53:58 They did. They got my ass. God damn it. Jack wants a platinum Pringles can, I think, for his house. And I'm just saying, why not me? Is this going to be like a hands-on-a-hard-body situation?

54:09 Is it like, It's sort of, you have to let that, you have to sign over something that they're calling your.

54:16 Last will and tastement. So do you see what they've done there? What does that mean? Instead of will and testament, you have will and tastement. Yeah, will and tastement.

54:26 And that allows them to bury you in an iconic platinum Pringles can.

54:34 Oh, you can get buried in a Pringles can? Yeah.

54:36 You have to agree to be buried in a Pringles can, and then you get to be buried in a Pringles can, and you also get a afterlife supply of chips.

54:46 After lifetime supply. After lifetime. Wait, I'm sorry.

54:50 The promotion is if you agree to be buried, you have to agree to be buried in a Pringles can, and then what you get is you get to be buried in a Pringles can.

55:00 And chips.

55:01 And chips. After you're dead? Yeah. What is that? No, you get the chips right away. Is it just free Pringles coffins? Is that what's going on? What's happening?

55:10 So this actually, there's a old piece of lore that's actually true that the Pringles.

55:16 Creator, Lawrence Bower.

55:18 had was pre-made and had part of his remains placed in a Pringles container. That was his last will and testament. And they had to be like, that's actually not true because there were a lot of rumors that like he, his remains were in Pringles. Like, and so they had to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no. But now they're like, Fuck it, man. This is what this is what marketing has come to.

55:43 You're eating old Larry Bauer dust.

55:44 We can't get Kelly Clarkson to get into a feud with us.

55:49 So this is what we have to do. A little bit of Larry's in every can of Pringles. That would be great.

55:53 Like Dave Thomas was in all the Wendy's burgers a little bit. They just grind him up and just like a little a little couple of miles.

56:00 Was Dave Thomas a good guy? I always worry about like old grandpa, white people that I thought were nice.

56:06 So he was a, so if you look him up, he was a considered a good guy because he adopted so many children, but he adopted so many children that you're like.

56:16 That's too many.

56:17 Yeah.

56:17 You know, of all.

56:19 Very diverse children, like many, many kids. Um, I think he was, uh, I think he was a nice guy in the, in the old Christian guy mold.

56:27 Sure.

56:28 Sure. Sure. Sure.

56:29 Like, 40s, 50s, people are like, there goes the nicest guy I know. And now people are like, hmm. Oh, because he was adopted.

56:38 Oh. So good for him.

56:40 Wait, was Wendy adopted?

56:43 No way to know, Jack. No way to know. Wendy was his daughter, I believe. Yeah. Lied to? No. Is there another product with a more iconic container? That's ultimately... I think we were talking about the Diet Coke. Martinelli's apple juice. Martinelli's apple juice is a good one. In the apple bottle. Yeah. It comes in an apple bottle? Yeah, the glass bottle that's shaped like an apple. I've never seen that once in my life.

57:06 Oh, really?

57:06 It's not as iconic as Pringles, but it's a great pool. You're not raising a bunch of young kids who love a bit of Martinelli's in the glass bottle. Also, I grew up, that was like the one thing, I couldn't have soda. I could have Martinelli's apple juice. Oh, wow. That's why I drink soda every day now.

57:23 That was what we would drink in, like, on Christmas, for Christmas dinner, in, like, a crystal goblet, me and my sister would drink.

57:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:29 It was always kid's champagne, for sure. Yeah. What else?

57:33 I think Big League Chew coming out of a tobacco pouch.

57:37 Nothing else.

57:39 I love how the Big League Chew has the whole story written on it where it's like, you know, baseball players were chewing too much tobacco. And so we came up with this bubble gum that looks exactly like tobacco.

57:50 For the kids.

57:51 Yeah.

57:52 As an early way of introducing them. Yeah. I mean, the Coca-Cola. The original Coke bottle is like the most iconic, unfortunately. Yeah. That shape.

58:02 What I think is funny about Pringles is everyone loves that can. No one talks about how the chips are bad.

58:08 They're bad chips.

58:09 They're the only potato chips you can buy that aren't fried slices of potato.

58:15 Every other potato chip is like they take a fucking potato chip. They're deconstructed. Yeah. They are reassembled. They are the particle board of... you know they're the ikea uh laminated yeah particle board potato chip yeah because it's like pink goo for potato chips i like my potato chips to melt in my mouth okay like.

58:35 Even if you buy fucking lays yeah lays is like they just took potatoes in front.

58:39 Yeah you look at it you're like that looks like a potato whereas that pringles are its own thing it's like its own substance Every time I see them, they're like, I think the original ones suck. Like, I will never eat a regular. It has to be flavor. The only things I can really, with Pringles that I like, have the flavor. The regular ones, I think it's so jarring.

58:59 I'm like, this isn't a fucking potato chip. Yeah. I think the main one is greens, like a sour cream and onion you'd get. Yeah, that's a good one. Okay. I think that's the only good one for sure.

59:11 So they reconstructed the Pringle in that particular shape so that they could all stack and fit in a can.

59:16 Yeah. Why is that good?

59:19 Like, why do I particularly want to eat chips out of a can that are in a column? Like, I understand it's iconic. I understand we like the look of it. But, like, how is that better than a bag?

59:28 They don't get messed up. They don't get all cracked up and crushed in a bag. What if the potato was really long?

59:34 Yeah.

59:34 If it was just really long? That's the question that it asks. And I think it's also just good marketing, too. Because suddenly... I'm sure the guy, Lawrence Bowers, is like, every asshole's putting chips in a bag. What we're going to do is we're going to chew up a bunch of potato chips, spit that out, and then flatten them into our own chip paste, then put that in a can, and everyone's going to be talking about this crap. Because that's what it feels like, masticated potato chips that were repressed for your enjoyment. Right. You think the Pringles guy and the Monopoly man are married?

1:00:08 Yeah.

1:00:09 Have they ever fucked? I think they're definitely in a throuple with the National Bohemian guy, too. The Maryland beer, Natty Bo, also has a very similar Pringle-esque face. I don't know this brand. It's a very regional... Look, Zeitgang from out there. Chesapeake Zeitgang, let them know. Natty Bo. Yeah, it has here. Let me just show you. I'd love to see this. The image is... Like this. He's kind of like the Pringles guy. Oh, yeah. Look at that.

1:00:39 Oh, yeah.

1:00:40 There he is. Oh, wait. What about Utz Potato Chips? Is there an Utz guy? Oh, maybe that's a little girl. Oh, yeah. Maybe. I think it's a little girl. Yeah. It's a girl.

1:00:51 Yep.

1:00:51 Yep.

1:00:51 Yep.

1:00:52 Okay.

1:00:52 Yeah.

1:00:53 They all seem like they're from the weird family of all one-dimensional faces. Do you know Bira Moretti? The Moretti beer guy? Yeah. Mustached guy who appears to be crying in his beer. Isn't he wearing a hat?

1:01:05 Yeah.

1:01:06 Yeah, so all the mustached lonely men from labels, they all get together. It's like a TikTok house. Trying to figure out how to get their shit going again. Oh, yes, you left me. Trust me, but we got to hit this dance right. I'm telling you. That's the scuba, right? She was right. I'm a fucking loser. All right.

1:01:32 That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday.

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