THE HERD – HOUR 2 – Colin Was Right About Lamar Jackson

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Matt Hasselbeck in less than five minutes. It's the herd. I know a lot of you didn't watch New England and Miami. Patriots had 97 yards in the first half. I'm telling you, man, Drake May was missing his top five weapons. Hunter Henry got banged up in the second half, I think it was. Drake May just put that franchise on his shoulders. He's just like, guys, I'm going to carry you. I'm telling you, that kid's going to win a Super Bowl. I guarantee it. Drake Mays winning the Super Bowl. I mean, can you imagine if they can get him weapons? Can you imagine if he had Mims and Cortland Sutton and Jalen Waddell? that kid is so good all right it's monday colin right colin wrong let's fire away where colin was right i said in july

and august i'm out on lamar jackson as a dependable elite quarterback and i said this before the injuries i said there's just too much mystery i don't know if he's going to practice i don't think he trusts the organization they're walking on eggshells then he gets hurt yesterday which is certainly isn't his fault but it's his reality uh he'll be out for the I mean, he's taken 200 more hits than any other quarterback, and he's a kid willing to sit in the pocket and take it.

But it just doesn't feel physically or emotionally right. I said it in the offseason, got pushed back. One way or another, it doesn't feel right. And yesterday it was the injury, probably out for the season.

Where Colin was wrong.

Listen, I didn't think the Cowboys defense would be Denver. But, I mean, all the trades and acquisitions and money, I didn't expect to give 500 yards up to Arizona. I mean, Tyler Algier looked like Adrian Peterson. 13 yards a carry. Gardner Minshew. The kid was just spinning it. So Arizona has beaten Dallas five straight times in nine of ten, but I think it's gone from discouraging to embarrassing. You know, it's one thing, again, a great quarterback, Caleb Williams beat you, Drake May beat you, Mahomes Allen. It's another when Gardner Minshew off the bench trailing big in the fourth riddles you through your defense. I didn't think it would be this bad. I didn't think it would be great, but I thought it would be a top-12 defense. It's a mess.

Where Colin was right.

We said, Lincoln Riley's smart. He's backed into a corner. USC is the side. They're going to play very well. And they beat Ohio State. They ran the ball exceptionally well. You know, Ohio State still dominated time of possession and had 81 plays to USC's 50. But we said, listen, freshman quarterback on the road. USC is backed into a corner.

They're going to play really, really good. And, you know, we didn't know win or lose, but you had a feeling. These are 19-year-old, 20-year-old kids. They don't listen to guys like us in the media criticizing the coach. They love their coach. So I do think Ohio State's going to be fine. I mean, it was one of those nights where balls in the air. USC's defensive lineman has it.

But this idea that, you know, USC was never going to fight back was nonsense.

Where Colin was wrong.

Justin Herbert, off a bye, no touchdowns. Touchdown every game. Interception in every game this year. Only quarterback can say this. Obviously, Mike McDaniel and Herbert. It doesn't work. They've got to make a move there. But his body language, his expressions, he's running for his life. I mean, I just, I never thought it would.

Listen, C.J.

Stroud had a rough season. Drake May had a rough stretch. Herbert looks beaten down, and I never thought I'd see that.

Where Colin was right.

I love Liam Cohen. I mean, Baker Mayfield had him and was like in the MVP discussion. Baker yesterday won but didn't complete a pass. He has turned Jacksonville. Trevor Lawrence right now leads the NFL in passer rating. Before Liam Cohen got there, there was a lot of us, myself included, thinking, wow, he never worked out. I would have bet my 401k on Trevor Lawrence. Now he leads the league in passer rating. I mean, they annihilated a team in Indianapolis that's selling off their best players, but it's a three-headed monster. They got playmakers. They can go underneath.

They can run trevor can run they are an absolute handful and liam cohen don't judge a guy just by what he does where he arrives what happens to the place he leaves and tampa's offense is a shell outside of bucky irving is a shell of what it used to.

Be where colin was wrong.

Kirk cousins what am i watching he's second in the league in touchdown passes the raiders are sixth in the league in scoring And they're doing it with mostly tight ends. Is it the Clint Kubiak effect? I honestly wonder if they started playing Mendoza and they put Kirk on the market, if Minnesota would come up and give you a second round pick. I mean, I thought he was done. I mean, off the surgery, I'm like, listen, he'll play five or six weeks. And then you know, no, he makes a lot of right. He makes a lot of smart decisions.

He's seen every coverage. You know, he's coachable and a hard worker. But I didn't expect this from Kirk Cousins.

Where Colin was right.

I looked it up this morning. Yaxel Lindenberg, when they got drafted by Golden State, I said, oh, wow, what a shock. Draft somebody that's a little older and it's really productive in college instead of drafting somebody that's 19 with great potential. Yaxel has been a monster for Golden State. The bottom line was Steve Kerr and Steph Curry and Draymond Green. This is a highly difficult, sophisticated offense to master, and you can't have 19-year-old kids in there. He can't came into the NBA older, but the body, the aggressiveness, he's a willing defender. He's tough. Listen, he's got, I think he's got to mature a little bit. I mean, he is first year in the NBA, but you know, we said, why wouldn't you draft? Ah, he's a little old.

I don't know. He can play that. He was dominant at Michigan. He's the best rookie right now in the class. Seems to me it was the right call.

Where Colin was wrong.

Oh, boy. Michael Penix completed 12 passes, four to the other guys. Couldn't hang on to the ball. Listen, you can't blame anybody else because he's got... I like the O-line. I like the coach. I'm a big Penix fan. And I understand the rain. It's Tampa. It's stormy. It's wet. You get this sometimes in November. But that was as bad as it gets. I will give the kid credit.

Even after interceptions, he'll sling it downfield. And he's got an Andrew Luck component to him.

Like, I don't care.

I'm going to throw the ball down the field. I like Penix a lot. I like sort of his EQ. He doesn't care if he throws picks. I like that. But that was ugly.

Where Colin was right.

Wrap it up with this. We predicted the Brewers would beat the Dodgers. Yes, we did. We predicted they would beat the Rays. They did not lean into analytics. Don't blame them if the World Series ratings were down. Tampa's got no fans nationally and not that many locally. They're young. They're athletic. One through nine. Everybody is a good at bat.

It's fundamentals. It's a selfless team. A lot of fun to watch. They put pressure on the defense. They can defend the bullpen. That is, and they prove something we've been lecturing, preaching for years. Payroll is overstated. I'm not saying it doesn't matter to solve a pitching liability or a bullpen issue. I'm not saying money can't help. But too much is made of the payroll disparity between teams like Milwaukee and the Dodgers. And then just beat the Dodgers.

They swept them and beat them in every category where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong and bringing Matt Hasselbeck 18 years in the NFL.

Wild, wild.

I want to start with this.

I want to start with payroll is overrated.

Don't don't say that when you go in for your next contract negotiation.

OK, Colin. Oh yeah. Just in baseball, just in baseball. Yeah.

Gotcha.

Gotcha. This business, you better pay up. I'll tell you that. So I want to start with a couple of things. Sometimes there are, there are these games I would give up. I would call them blueprint games. You play on national TV and the league's watching and everybody's like, Oh, Oh, they, they can't do this. They can't do that. Last two weeks, the Seahawks played the chiefs and said, Oh, We're going to stop. We're going to stop Kenneth Walker. Beat us downfield.

And Denver said, I like what Seattle did. We're going to stop. We're going to stop Kenneth Walker. I feel like is the word out on Kansas City like they're just not good enough down the field to beat you all in on Kenneth Walker.

Well, there's absolutely no doubt that the deep passing game is really not there for Kansas City right now.

It's a head scratcher.

I mean, Bo Nix completed more passes downfield than.

Patrick Mahomes did.

And we know the kind of like the hate that he's getting for that part of his game right now. I thought it was a great game that Kansas city had a chance to come away with the win. They're right there. They've got the ball in like the four yard line with my homes as the ball it's second and one from the one it's fourth in one from.

The one, like they should have won the game that could have won the game.

So I don't think the sky is falling for them, but this is a team in transition.

They're trying to figure out what their identity is.

You know, it's still the Travis Kelsey show and got to have it moments, but he's not being used the same way that he once was. And then the crispness of the wide receiver group outside.

Just clearly isn't there either.

So some mistakes they got to overcome and mistakes you usually don't see out of this team. And it's a bad feeling right now for them, but I wouldn't give up on them quite yet.

What did you make of, I don't like to second guess coaches on a lot of decisions, but I think on special teams, I can, I, I think that that's, I would not have tried that field goal late. I would have pinned Bo Nixon said, I don't care if it's four down football, go 84 yards. I didn't let this kicker had been struggling. It was raining and cruddy weather.

What did you make of that decision?

I think, yeah, I realize the relationships that go deep there. You know, Harrison Butker is one of the game's best kickers. And I know he's been struggling a little bit this year. But like, you know, I was teammates with Adam Vinatieri, who's a Hall of Famer. You know, he missed kicks from time to time.

We didn't freak out.

Like our confidence in him did not flinch. He didn't waver ever because we believed in him. We just knew he was going to get it right. And so, you know, clearly they haven't gotten it right quite yet in the kicking situation, but you're also in Denver, you know, as a quarterback, when I played in Denver, it just, you felt, it just felt different. The altitude's real for kickers. It's the same thing. It's kind of like kicking in a dome.

So I think everyone was shocked that he missed the kick and, and, and, you know, that that's, that's really how I see it.

Okay. So I want to go to Bo Nix. It is on, I don't know if it's ever happened. I haven't looked it up. The Broncos have won 15 straight one possession games. And I mean, that's insane. And I mean, they lead the league in punts. So they pin themselves back. on Bo Nix, but he has the fewest yards per air attempt in the league and yet still completing 59%.

Some of this to me is coaching. Some of this is Sean Payton dialing up. So many of these Denver big plays guys are wide open. That's not quarterback play that to me, that scheme. What do you make of Denver's offense currently?

Well, it's a little bit of both.

You know, I actually think Bo Nix is getting a lot of heat and playing good football and he's very streaky. Like I'll, I'll admit to that, like a home run hitter that gets on a tear or.

A three point shooter.

But he's, he's his best on like fourth down situations, two minute situations. He's at his best when his best is kind of required.

And, you know, you mentioned the guys that are wide open.

It's scheme, but it's also, you know, blitz hots using his legs. He has a poise that's uncommon for someone his age with with his level of experience. So, you know, I just think that Sean Payton coming back, I know how important it is to have. to be in lockstep with your play caller. This is a team that was two and two when Sean Payton was not the play caller.

They haven't lost the last four weeks when he's been the play caller. They're now six and two, only the Buffalo bills have a better record than them.

Confidence is brewing.

And yet I think there's a humility there that offensively quarterback included, they know they can play a lot better. They know they need to play a lot better, but the home field advantage is real. I believe in Sean Payton and in bone X showed to me last year that he's got what it takes to take his team to the super bowl so if you're asking me for a ceiling on this team i think this is a super bowl team if they could get by they can improve and get by a team like buffalo Wow.

You are optimistic. And that's one thing I like about you. I got, I got this cynicism and built into me as a hardened journalist and you're out there spitting positivity all the time.

I'll just say, I didn't expect it though.

Like I watched the game and you know, I watched the game on TV, like everybody else. Then I went back and rewatched the game the way that I would watch it in a quarterback room. If Jim Zorn or Andy Reed, or one of those guys, Mike McCarthy was my quarterback coach. And it was shocking to me how great Bo Nix was on fourth down and two minute.

It also was shocking.

The big plays that happened that quite honestly didn't happen for Kansas city.

It was the difference in the game.

That's why one team won and the other team didn't moment of truth. Got to have it fourth down plays two minute that, that stuff.

And so, Hey, I just call on how I see it.

So green Bay earlier this year had about a three game stretch where they did nothing. Well, Dallas now is on a season stretch where they do nothing well. So it's hard for me to blame players. And I think players are more valuable than coaches, but we all know coaching elevates players, especially young players. I watched Dallas, man, they don't do anything well. I mean, at some point you've done this in your career, you're a nice guy, but you probably had either a position coach or a head coach or a coordinator, and you knew they were over their skis. They just weren't ready for the moment.

I just, I look at Schottenheimer and I'm like, you got to do something right. There's got to be something you're doing right. Yesterday, the offense had two key offensive possessions late. They got pushed backwards.

Both.

I mean, I mean, do players know they may not say it, but do they know when the staff isn't elevating them to a level that other staffs are?

Well, I think there's a lot of mediocrity to go around. I don't think it's just, I don't think it's just one group. I don't think it's just players or just coaches or just management in that, that kind of stuff.

This is not a dynamic team. They're not crisp.

I mean, even Dak Prescott, who's one of their highest paid players, if not their highest paid player, who we expect. I had a coach one time, he would always say this to the quarterback. He'd say, listen, times like this, you need to be amazing marinara sauce over yesterday's pasta.

Like and you need to rise above.

And like, I just, I, that's not what's happening right now.

At the quarterback position. So like, there's tons of blame to go around.

I'm not trying to throw stones at Dak, but he ran for more third down first downs yesterday than he threw for like, it's just, you know, and some, he should have ran for more. Like we need, we need more out of this offense. They're not running tricky stuff. They're just not doing it. Well, I mean, they're running plays that Jacksonville's running and Jacksonville looks like the most explosive team in all football at times. So it's just, I think you got to do less better. I think that would be my advice for them offensively. You got to do less better. And then on defense, like mistakes are going to happen. You can't make the same mistake over and over and over again. You can't even make it twice. Like mistakes will happen. Don't be an error

repeater would be my advice to their defense.

So I've always had like a saying that I believe to be true, which is don't make choices in life. to validate previous decisions. Just go missed wrong. Like I screwed up and GM is a lot of times won't do that because if they have to move off a player, they draft or spend a lot of money on it makes them look bad. My thing is do what's right.

The DK Metcalf thing. It's not working like, like Aaron, I think is almost throwing to him out of a field that he should. He's expensive. He's DK Metcalf. Like it's not working. And the cap hit is enormous. It triples. And have you ever been in a situation? I mean, I look at that and I'm like, I almost think it's time to move off him now and get out of that business and let Aaron concentrate on the guys that the younger guys. I mean, I think what Aaron and Mike McCarthy are doing with this offensive roster is pretty impressive. Jalen Warren's amazing. And that's about it. Like I, I think Aaron's.

Actually playing well.

I don't think that's about it. I think they've got a really strong tight end room. I think their running back room is really strong. They've got the young wide receiver that they like. Yes, TK had a tough day. He doesn't look like himself. He doesn't seem like he's as explosive and flexible and pliable as he once was.

But I don't think that's the biggest issue.

I think the biggest issue is that he and Aaron Rodgers aren't seeing things the same way. I'll go back to, they had a first and goal on the two yard line and it's press man daring you to throw a goal line fade. That's our favorite thing to do as a quarterback. We've been doing that since we were freshmen in high school. As a wide receiver, you've been doing that since you were a freshman in high school. And what happens is- When you're under center, the quarterback's going to take either a one or a three-step drop. When you're in gun, you're going to take a one-step drop.

The wide receiver has to time it up. They just were way out of sync. It was just a complete miss. Like it wasn't even close. Like if the ball was a grenade, I'm not sure if anyone would have gotten hurt. And that's just a timing thing because they weren't in sync. So to me, those are fixable things that can get fixed, but it's going to be this, it's going to be getting on the same page as Aaron Rogers. Not like the two of us figuring out what each of us likes.

It's going to be Aaron's way or, or the balls go in other places.

Okay. Seahawks added Quentin Nelson bears at a Jeffrey Simmons. They were good rosters before that. It does have like a Ram Seahawks feel last year where you're like, these are the two best teams, everybody. Yeah. What will the game do you think look like tonight?

A big running game. Like I think run game, run game, run game for both teams. I see that for sure. I also think that, or I know when you study and prepare for a team, you look at something called the big play reel and the green Bay Packers showed that they did not have a lot of respect for the guys in the backend in terms of shots downfield, whether that's play action or whatever.

So that'll be a part of this game.

I think this plan for Seattle, it'll be run game, run game, run game, and test your safeties deep. That'll be part of it. But it's, interesting because I agree. These are two of the best teams in the NFC at the end of the year.

But right now.

Like if the bears lose this game, they're all of a sudden last place in their division somehow. You know, they win, they win because they've got such a great division that they win this game. Now people are saying, wow, they just went to Seattle. A team that's one of the best in football the last couple of years.

I mean, wow.

Look, look, look at the trajectory that we're on. So this is an enormous game tonight. And you know, I want to say it's a chess match, but like, I don't think it's a chess match. I think this is old school. You know what our plan is. We know what your plan is. sprinkled in with some trick plays probably because it's ben johnson but uh it should be a.

Fun one you played a monday night football game or two i imagine in seattle what's it like It's awesome.

It's incredible.

Uh, something about the West coast, usually, you know, it's, it's not late to us. Like when you're on the East coast, those Monday night games are super late. And then on the West coast, it kind of feels like, Oh great. Everyone's, you know, like, this is our time. Like you're a, you're in our time zone. This is kind of fun. But, uh, you know, I think also in Seattle, they don't get a lot of that national attention.

It's not like playing for the jets or the giants where you're the Cowboys or the Steelers, where you feel like everyone's talking about you. So I think that even for that reason, the 12s take a little bit more pride in it. And, uh, and obviously the they just won the super bowl too. So the excitement is, is still there.

Yeah. Matt Hasselbeck trade deadlines next Tuesday. So there's a lot of rumors out there that if Seattle can't run the ball particularly well tonight that keep your eye on Jonathan Taylor and the Colts. I'm just telling you, that's what's kind of out there. I think this is, I've listened.

And if you're, if you're a running back, if you're a running back, you hear that too.

So even I'll.

Tell you, I think those running backs are going to be at another gear tonight because it's a sink or swim moment for them.

Matt Hasselbeck. I love the positivity you brought today. I got a little negative and you just push back on it.

It's Monday. It's it's Monday. I get it. You got the Mondays. I get it.

Good seeing you, bud.

See ya.

Matt Hasselbeck. We have Tom Brady on tomorrow, which we always love.

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So Seahawks tonight and the Bears, I mean, there are 15 great players in this game. Um, and whenever there's this, one of these all time games where you're like, oh, this is a, this is a big sandwich game. Sit down, grab yourself a, you know, whatever your beverage of choice is and sit down for three hours and just be entertained.

And I, and I, I said this morning, like whenever we have a game like this, and it may be like, honestly, about six times a year, let's just go. Who are the 10 best players in this game? Best player in this game is JSN 15 times. Okay. Okay. hundred plus receiving yards over the last two seasons.

Okay.

That no other receiver has 10. He's got 15 Jackson Smith in jig, but JSN is arguably the best offensive player in the NFL. I'm not saying the most valuable. He is arguably the best Jeffrey Simmons, defensive tackle, basically most sacks, most pressure to any defensive tackle stat. Jeffrey Simmons leads the NFL Caleb Williams. I don't think there's any quite lowest interception percentage in NF history, one spot ahead of Aaron Rogers, multiple touchdowns in his last 13 starts.

I would say Devon Weatherspoon is the best tackling corner, the most aggressive corner. To me, it's my favorite corner in the league, allowing just seven yards per reception, sticky and physical. I would say Quentin Nelson acquired last week through the Colts. Pro Bowler, eight for eight times. Again, this guy, brute force. 275 pass block snaps this year.

Zero sacks allowed. Nick Amonwuri is the most violent, intimidating safety in the NFL. I would put him at six. Darnell Wright, the right tackle for the Bears. He's the fourth-ratedest. offensive lineman, offensive tackling football. He is a stonewall. Leonard Williams is still great and never hurt at number eight.

Leonard Williams among DTs has the most quarterback hits in the NFL since last year, 31 in 24 games. He's worth every penny. Sam Darnold, number nine. I don't know if you've heard of him. Just got a trophy last year, aiming for number two. And number 10, Luther Burden leads the Bears in yards and catches and touchdowns. Luther is just a big-time playmaker. To give you a sense of how good these teams are, Joe Tooney didn't make that list.

I mean, Colston Loveland didn't make that list. He got off to a slow start. Byron Murphy, interior defensive lineman, Seattle. He'll be a pro bowler. Did not make the list. So Seattle's, you know, now they came off a very emotional game. I like Chicago tonight. And the reason being it's Seattle's third straight prime time game. Well, how can you have the Seahawks rated number one and not like him tonight? Because when you get to the top of the league, it's very circumstantial. Do you have all your starters?

What's your momentum? Who do you play next week? Who did you play last week? Seattle's playing their third straight game. prime time games. Those take a lot of oxygen. And they just came off a, I mean, they literally played a perfect football game against Kansas city. So Ben Johnson talked about the matchup in the Pacific Northwest tonight.

I know guys are going to be up for it and we're going to give them our best shot. We've been saying all week long that we're going to have to coach the best that we've coached all year. We're going to have to play the best that we played all year. And that doesn't mean we're scared to make mistakes or anything like that. But, you know, we just we got to be on our mess and we can't shoot ourselves in the foot with turnovers or penalties or things of that nature. We need to play a clean football game. And let's see where it goes from there.

Seattle makes it very difficult to play a clean football game. This is why Caleb Williams is so gifted. You get all the upside and he just doesn't throw picks. It's very historically rare. If you look at that list again, and I'm projecting here, I don't know who's going to make the Hall of Fame. Barring injuries, I would say JSN's a Hall of Famer, Simmons Hall of Famer, Caleb will be a Hall of Famer, Witherspoon's a Hall of Famer, Nelson's a Hall of Famer. Safeties, it's hard, but Nick M, or Menwari, it literally plays the position differently than any other safety in a decade. Darnell Wright's going to be a 10-time Pro Bowler at right tackle. He'll get votes.

Leonard Williams will get a lot of votes. One more trophy for slinging Sammy D. Like I said, let's say something when Sam Darnold, I won't even worry about the hall of fame. When he hosts hoists, his second Lombardi trophy, J Mac take the week off. I mean, I will be incorrigible.

Wait, really?

When, when Darnold is saying again, I just want to thank my teammates and he is hoisting a Lombardi on February. What is it? It's Valentine's day, February 14th. Sammy D love. Wow.

Thank you.

You know, that's so kind of you. I'm going to start rooting Seahawks now, obviously.

Hey, by the way, same applies.

If the jets get arch Manning in the draft, Oh, jets are going to be at every herd line.

No, I'll root. I love the Mannings. I'll root for arch Manning. Yeah. Yeah. Brock part may have brought pretty hoist. Four of them. I may get a flu. I may have to take a couple of weeks off.

Yeah.

Jay Mack with the news.

This is the Herdline News.

You know, you had a puzzling take earlier.

You were so impressed and blown away by Drake Mays' performance in South Florida yesterday. I didn't see it, Colin. They win an ugly game against the Miami Dolphins, the Frisky Dolphins. Don't cover the spread for what it's worth. May had some decent numbers, 16 and 20. Buck 99 was down some weapons, obviously. But down and down, they did not move the football well. At all.

A couple big plays in the second half.

They don't have anybody.

Not sustained drives. Sloppy. Ugly. But Vrabel, he was impressive, man.

He's going to be a great quarterback in the National Football League.

There's not a whole lot of excuses. You go out there and you find ways to win.

For your football team.

And I know that that's, one, who he is. And that's who he wants to continue to be. So, let's just.

It throws the open guy and controls our offense and gets guys in the right spot.

That's from being, being one.

Of the best quarterbacks in the league. That that's what the job description requires.

Yeah.

I mean, it was again, Miami's got nothing to lose. The players love Halfley. They play with incredible energy. If you're watching Miami play the jets lost to the team. Jets have players. Jets have eight or nine players. Miami's got a couple. Miami plays with a held New England 97 yards. Their top five playmakers all gone. And, you know, New England, even when Brady was there, has always struggled in Miami. Brady did. I I'm, I'm watching the second half of Drake May. And I'm like, that's a Superbowl winning quarterback. It's he may play for another 15 years.

Mark my word. I'll just say it right now. I'll take the over on one Superbowl with Drake May. I'll take the over gladly today.

You know what?

This pains me because I liked me coming out of college. Remember I was the one liking him and everybody said, Jaden Daniels, Jaden Daniels may, you know, couldn't even start as a rookie.

He's good, but what are we doing?

Really?

Over one Super Bowl?

Oh, you know, I think size, arm, toughness. Boston's a tough media market. They eat their, you know, they eat their own stars.

I'll ask you. This is just in the AFC.

Yeah.

Joe Burrow or Drake May?

Drake May.

Let me, Joe Burrow or Drake May and you're taking May?

Well, I have to consider cost, health injury, health, history.

Holy cow. Okay, Josh Allen or May?

Josh Allen.

Bo Nix or Drake May?

Not close, May.

Oh, okay. Mahomes or May, obviously.

Mahomes, getting closer.

So it's weird because I was going to say Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert.

No, no, no. It's May, May, May, May, May. It's Allen, absolutely. Mahomes for a year. Drake May's about a year away from being the second. I'm not joking. I think this kid's insanely talented.

I'm floored by this. Oh, my gosh.

You're going to be all over New England radio gassing up May here after a 199-yard performance. I'll just point you to the three picks in the fourth quarter against the Seahawks, the choke job.

They got smashed by the Jags. By the way, the model that I.

Built, worst weekend of the year, is telling me Packers are the side this week against the Patriots in the Brady game.

Packers getting three.

Well, yes.

Offensive coach, great quarterback. There's another quarterback I love, Jordan Love, and they get extra time to prepare.

Extra time to prepare.

Yeah, that's a huge advantage for great quarterbacks and offensive coaches to play on those Thursday games. You get two full extra days of practice. It's a tough spot. I will say this. Green Bay is the side unless New England gets one of their five top playmakers back.

Green Bay's not good. By the way, Dolphins have one win, just for the record.

One win.

Yeah. Let's move on to the LA Rams. Colin, they were unwatchable for the first half.

I mean, they didn't have a first down until there was two minutes left in the half.

Listen, this was a tough slate. The NFL needs more games at four o'clock.

I'll rant on that later, but chargers end up getting the dub Kyron Williams, Blake Corum, blah.

Blah, blah.

Stafford 157 yards passing.

I mean, it was bad.

This speaks to how poor the Chargers are right now. Oh, my gosh. Puka had a big one. 11 for 80 yards and a tutty.

Rams have not played a complete game all season.

They're discombobulated. Here's Puka on the win.

This is something that we've got to be able to continue to build upon, but it's not something that we can exhale from. There's still a lot of improvement, obviously not being able to get out there and execute early in that first half. That's something that we can't have at Lowell. If our defense is playing their butts off like that, we've got to be able to go out there and play complimentary football. So we're minimizing their time on the field so that we can get explosive plays and keep us on the field.

I will say Miles Garrett on the bike on the sidelines, reportedly coming back to practice soon. I would like to see that.

They are.

They just feel a little off, a little disjointed. Half-to-half, you're not really sure what the offense provides. Aaron Donald yesterday, he hasn't been... He's about 60-70% of what he was. Again, he's an older guy. He came back in. I suspect he'll get in better and better shape. I'm not selling my stock. I still think they're a top-ten team, but they're what I would call uneven. You don't quite know half-to-half what you're getting with them, but when they're hitting...

When they're running the ball well, then they're a handful.

I don't know, man. I know some people who are on the sidelines yesterday.

They said Miles Garrick took more photos yesterday on the sideline than plays he's been on the field this season. I don't know what's wrong with the Rams. It's just not clicking. We're more than halfway through the season. I know there's been injuries. It's been choppy. I trust in McVay, but I mean, at what point, Colin, are you like, okay, hey.

We've worked out the kinks. All the hype is done. Like this should have been, you know, 35-9.

It was just unimpressive.

Well, let's remember, this is not college in 1980. It is the NFL. There's very good coaching.

Not from the Chargers.

By the way, they haven't had an offensive touchdown in like four weeks because the bye was factored in there. I don't know how McDaniel's still employed. I know he's a nice guy. I know some dads in my.

Area who know him.

It's just not working. We got to boot.

I almost think you start to look at shutting down Herbert for the season. Did you see those interceptions he threw?

Oh, I think that's under consideration.

Maybe he's just planning for the wedding with the new girlfriend. I don't know what's going on. Let's just move on. Chargers, I can't talk about them anymore. Final story is the Eagles. Holy hell.

Colin, this is a bad football team.

Nick Sirianni at a loss for words because they can't do anything.

I mean, they had a good start.

They were winning 10-0 and then never scored again.

And inept Washington, who.

Doesn't have any skilled players, decides to just dominate. Colin, this is a wacky NFL season anyways. Here's Sirianni on where the blame goes after this bad loss.

I take everything as my responsibility that happens out in that field.

Everything.

And so obviously I'm not doing a good enough job right now in that case, and I've got to be better. It falls on my shoulders because every product on that field, offense, defense, special teams, fundamentals, situational football, player making a mistake, coach making a mistake, that's my freaking job. And so I'm pissed at myself, and I know I'll fight like hell to do everything I can do to get it fixed.

I like that. That's a good press conference.

Yeah, that's really good.

He should save it for when he's fired and selling his house in a couple weeks. Colin, the Eagles are unwatchable right now. There's some teams in this league you can't watch or bet. Eagles, Chargers, Colts right now. I mean, I would just start selling players this week, honestly. They're going nowhere. Now, I know they say they want to keep Saquon Barkley. I mean, maybe he likes his life in Philly. Colin, did you try to watch this game last night? Luka Doncic put on a better show against the Raptors than.

Anything I saw on this field last night. I had both TVs on.

It was one of the rare Sunday night games. And I told the staff this. I checked out early third quarter.

I'm like, they're going to have to start scheduling, move the Eagles out of primetime, move the Chargers out.

I'm not watching Tanner McKee. And I saw the hype. Did you see the video? He was an elite 11 quarterback. I'm sorry. He's not an NFL starter, guys. He's just not.

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So I didn't put the Minnesota Vikings in my top ten despite having a 6-0 record. And yesterday they got beat. I couldn't stop the run against the lions in the second half. So I I've never done like the herd hierarchy based on like your record, like Pittsburgh right now is in first place. But if, if, if Jalen Warren twisted his ankle, I'm not sure they could get into the end zone. Like he is a dominant player. They're running back. Situation is really leads their team. which it does with the chiefs. So that's not unique. And I do think running backs are, have been on kind of a two or three year run where they're, you know, we have more young quarterbacks, all quarterbacks are better with run games. So I think in the league is cyclical.

It got very past centric. There was a bit of a, a wide receiver bubble receivers, you know, making 25, 30 million. It's like the DK Metcalf deal, bad, bad contract. One of the worst in the league. Pittsburgh has a one man offense and Aaron Rogers. I mean, it's just, it's amazing. McCarthy and Aaron have guided them the first place in the AFC north. Hasselbeck is more optimistic on their offensive personnel.

They just were way out of sync. It was just a complete mess. Like it wasn't even close.

Like if the ball was a grenade, I'm not sure if anyone would've gotten hurt. And that's just a timing thing. because they weren't in sync so to me those are fixable things that can get fixed but uh it's gonna be this it's gonna be getting on the same page as aaron rogers not like the two of us figuring out what each of us likes it's gonna be aaron's way uh or or the ball's going other places Yeah.

I don't think it's a top 10 team, but I do think with Aaron, you're guaranteed McCarthy and Aaron guarantee high floor, very competent pros. Aaron's going to be a first ballot hall of famer, but you know, we don't talk about GMs a lot, but Kansas city's GM has rolled the dice on some players with red flags. It hasn't worked. You know, Omar Khan's a young GM, pretty young GM for the Steelers. He took a big swing on DK Metcalf. Didn't like it at the time. I didn't mind the Michael Pittman move. He just banged up.

but he's not the player he once was. So they're spending a lot of money and they're getting nothing out of those two wide receiver acquisitions. So, and I'm all for taking big swings, the DK Metcalf deal. I didn't like it all. Pittman, I thought, all right, he's older. Aaron will like him. He's physical. He's banged up. Maybe he returns, but I don't even know what to do with Kansas city right now. Are they, are they a top 10 team in the league? It's almost feels like everybody figured the Rubik's cube out. Like Kansas city has to, They got to go buy a receiver. I mean, what are you going to do? And I think the best teams in the league to me feel like all. NFC teams.

The depth is pretty good. I mean, new England and Denver and the Jags, Buffalo, there's some Kansas city. There's some, there's some really nice, even the bottom of the AFC. I'm not sure what we do with the Raiders, but the Raiders are a tough out Raiders can score. I mean, yesterday, Clint Kubiak and Kirk Cousins played Man, you know, you don't have to have a winning record. I think Jeff Halfley is doing a great job in Miami with what he has. I think Clint Kubiak, what he's doing with Kirk Cousins. I mean, Robert Sala and that coaching staff in Tennessee, Cam Ward, the last two weeks moving the ball.

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