Ghost Hunters

0:04 Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists. This week on the show, we gathered the cast of a very well-known in hotel rooms ghost show by Ghostle.

0:16 Ghosts have been a phenomenon since the beginning of man. We have always wondered what happens after death. Well, these four ghost hunters explore it and try to find answers in by Ghostle.

0:30 Whether or not you're a skeptic, ghost hunting is a verified job that makes people lots of money. From going to old abandoned buildings to talking to spirits through basically radios, ghost hunters have found a way to connect not only with the supernatural, but also with audiences at home.

0:51 So turn on that spirit box, press record, get that night vision camera on, and let's Hunt ghosts.

1:02 Let's listen in. We should check the space first.

1:09 We should check the space.

1:10 Absolutely.

1:11 And we should communicate with the.

1:12 Spirits as well. Oh, hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. This is off. This isn't working. That is crazy. I'm getting a little reading. Was it working before? It was working before. And when I entered, it's no longer working. Oh, shit.

1:24 Guys, hard drive's going crazy.

1:26 What's going on? What's it saying?

1:28 Hard drive is going crazy. The readings are off the charts. It's messaging all the thermal imagery devices in the county, and they're all spiking.

1:38 Thermal images in the county? Okay, it's on now. So does that mean it's coming?

1:42 Hold on. Let me sense it. Let me get some sensors. Hold on a minute. Oh, my gosh. When I pressed this button, it turned red.

1:54 Wait, wait.

1:56 Play that back.

2:01 That could have been something. Because that didn't happen when we first listened to it.

2:05 That's crazy.

2:06 Yeah, I'm going.

2:07 To give 0.25 on my PFPF reading. I don't know what that could mean. It could either mean that there's some sort of presence here or that it is over 80 degrees in this room. I'll try to dial it in a little bit.

2:19 Come back to me. Great.

2:20 Now, I know this podcast wanted us to talk process, but I just also want to hunt a little.

2:25 Yeah, of course.

2:26 We do have to hunt a little. This is, of course, one of the more haunted locations in the two locations that we hunt in. We are, of course, the team behind the show by Ghostall. We hunt ghosts in LA and New York exclusively.

2:42 Yeah.

2:43 Because of some experiences in our past, we all have a connection to the thin veil that connects us and the outside world. We have had experiences that.

2:53 Let us know.

2:55 The mic will get you.

2:56 You don't have to go super loud. Am I being too loud?

2:58 We're not in the tunnels anymore or something, so you can just kind of talk normally. It's like a podcast.

3:02 What I like to do is speak for not only the people in the room, but for any ghosts that are beyond the veil. Because as many people know, the veil can muffle audio. So I wanted to make sure ghosts can hear me too.

3:14 That's a good point.

3:15 Let's jump into it and tell each other's names to the camera and what was their situation that led us to be able to have a connection with the other side.

3:23 That's right. Let's tell each other's names. His is Tuttle.

3:26 Hi, I'm Tuttle. I was kicked by a horse and now I believe I can talk to ghosts. When I was seven years old, I was bucked off a pony. It nailed me right in the temple. Doctors thought I would die. I woke up immediately, and I believe now I can talk to the other side.

3:44 I still cannot believe the precision of that pony to hit you in the temple.

3:48 It bucked me off, and bam, right in the temple.

3:51 It bucked you off. Like it was trying to kill me. Trying to kill me.

3:54 What did you see in the hospital room that day?

3:56 Well, I saw some doctors. I saw some nurses. I saw my mom, my dad, my sister, and my brother. And also, I heard a voice.

4:03 What?

4:04 What did the voice say? The voice said, you ain't going yet. You ain't going yet.

4:09 And I felt some sort of feeling across my face like I had been slapped as hard as a man could be slapped.

4:17 It was like this, pa, pa, pa, pa. And I went, mama, mama.

4:21 And she said, Turtle, you're alive. And I said, mama, I'm more than alive. I can talk to things now. Wow. Ever since then, I've been helping people figure out what the hell is going on with their homes, what the hell is going on with their theaters, what the hell going on with their hotels, what the hell going on with a lot of different things like stables, what the hell going on with anything that could be haunted, like a boat, or like a children's school, or you know, like a big gymnasium, or even like a farm stand.

4:58 Hold on, Tuttle. What are some more? Oh, oh, like Hold on. Keep going.

5:05 Helping people with their places where they fix cars at night. Helping people with gas stations. Helping people like old roller rinks.

5:15 Tunnel, I'm going to stop you right there. I need to hear more.

5:18 I'm just helping people where they sell pianos.

5:24 I'm helping.

5:25 I'm helping people, you know, where they're building the pianos, big kind of big spaces that feel empty and remodeled.

5:33 Tuttle, we all have to say our names.

5:35 Keep going.

5:37 You know, any old sock wards, torn down places with Native American burials.

5:43 I'm helping them figure out.

5:45 Tuttle, enough.

5:47 Five more.

5:48 You know, I'm helping them where they're building watches and clocks and stuff. I'm helping them find a ghost if you got them in suitcases every once in a while.

5:58 Or old planes.

5:59 I'm helping them in big terminals, see if anything bad happened in terminals. And I'm helping them in fields, big fields where war has happened.

6:07 Tuttle, stop! One more! And, of course, I'm helping them where it helps the most, their inner hearts. Thank you, Tuttle. Hey, you guys, welcome. Thank you, Tuttle.

6:16 And thanks for letting me join the team, even though I'm not from the Coast region.

6:20 Thank you, Tuttle, so much.

6:21 We're glad you're here, and we're excited for the journeys that we've been on and will continue to be on.

6:27 Yeah, we had some crazy journeys. Isn't that right, Stefano?

6:32 A hundred percent is right.

6:34 I am so grateful to be with this cast, with this team, with this group of hunters and warriors.

6:40 Sorry. Wait, what was that?

6:42 Wait, what was that?

6:43 Something.

6:43 Is something moving through you?

6:45 Six months ago, Stefano received a ghost from a girlfriend.

6:48 What?

6:49 I had sex with a witch.

6:53 We told him not to.

6:54 We told him not to. That girl sells stuff on Etsy nobody should be buying. But that set of teeth. I had to see if there was something going on. Stefano's a teeth guy. I know you hear like boobs, butt guy. No, Stefano is a teeth guy.

7:12 Because of an experience in his childhood, Stefano has a sexual attraction to teeth.

7:21 Stefano and I walked by a dentist one time, and Stefano could not keep it together.

7:26 I just want to say I'm so grateful that all my best friends know me so deeply. Especially, I grew up next to Casey. We grew up next to each other in a house. In similar neighbors' houses. But I want to say, I was a skeptic. Casey was a kid that was always looking. And I was a skeptic until I had sex with a witch.

7:48 So it was just recently? No, it was your first date.

7:51 And then my eyes were opened, and ever since then, how could I deny the otherworldly?

7:57 And you have been so different ever since you had sex with the witch.

8:01 It is very different.

8:02 You used to believe that braces were like panties for teeth, but now you believe they're like jeans.

8:10 It's just kind of helping them, and it's making them look better.

8:14 But it doesn't do anything for you.

8:16 And that's right.

8:18 My belief in ghosts is perfectly connected to my attraction to teeth.

8:24 Are you sure you want to do that?

8:31 Ever since that witch fucked me sideways and opened my eyes to the other world, I can no longer trust any noise in a dark room or look at teeth the same way.

8:45 Did you hear that? Did you guys hear that? Yeah.

8:47 I genuinely heard that.

8:48 The reader's going crazy.

8:49 I got 0294. Hold on. Listen.

8:55 Wait.

8:56 Enhance.

8:57 Slow that down.

8:58 Let us look at that.

8:59 Wait.

8:59 Stop.

9:00 Play it again.

9:00 Play that back.

9:01 Slow down.

9:03 I'm your mother. Whoa.

9:06 Whoa.

9:06 Somebody's mother is here. That might be mine.

9:10 Go, Casey.

9:10 Go.

9:10 My name is Casey. I am the host of Go Buy Ghostle.

9:15 And.

9:15 When I was six years old, I was living next door to Casey, or I was Stefano.

9:20 Stefano.

9:20 And I say live next door to Casey because I had a mirror that moved a little bit slower than myself. It was a trick mirror, and I believed it was a ghost. I don't know how it worked, but the mirror was just a little bit slower. So I would turn, and then I look back, and then it would turn.

9:38 That does sound like a ghost. It might have been a real ghost.

9:42 It was fucking weird, and I haven't seen anybody else have that type of mirror.

9:46 My mom said she got it at a yard sale, and it was a trick.

9:49 But I do believe it might have been a ghost. Because of that, I began to see spooky things, like the monsters on TV.

9:58 I loved scary shows.

10:00 Because of the mirror, you started watching TV. Yes.

10:04 Because I had a supernatural experience, I became attracted to horror television shows and even horror comedies.

10:11 And I began to watch them all the time. And it changed my view on reality.

10:15 Instead of sitting in a room wondering if I was safe, I would sit in a room and hope I was in danger because fear was exciting.

10:22 I will say, out of everyone on the team, Casey, you are a fan of ghost media.

10:28 I am.

10:28 So that's also because, like, sure, we want to find ghosts.

10:32 Don't.

10:32 We also want to make a good episode of television. Yeah, don't get Casey Starr on CBS's Ghosts.

10:38 Oh, his favorite show.

10:39 I am obsessed with CBS's Ghosts. The really fresh take.

10:45 On living in a house with ghosts, and they're from all different eras, which makes you know they did their research, because ghosts are from different eras.

10:56 I am obsessed with ghosts.

10:57 And one day, I hope to turn Bi-Ghostel into a coffee shop in the valley somewhere that's spooky too.

11:04 You hope to turn our ghost hunting show into a coffee shop?

11:07 I hope to open Bi-Ghostel the coffee shop where I have scary coffee names and there's pictures of ghosts on the walls.

11:14 It's haunted but a coffee shop.

11:16 What are some of the scary coffee names you've come up with?

11:19 Freddy Voorhees Latte.

11:21 Okay.

11:22 Okay.

11:23 You have to stop.

11:23 Do three more.

11:26 Okay, Freddy, oh, Jason Voorhees latte, sorry. Freddy Krueger macchiato. Babadook tea.

11:35 So just none of these are puns.

11:38 He's heard plays on words.

11:39 No, they're scary things and coffees. Together forever, on my menu.

11:44 Amazing, absolutely amazing. I mean, what a big team we built, but we wouldn't be complete without, of course.

11:50 My name is Veronica. And ever since I was a little girl, all of the women in my family have this. We see ghosts and can bro down with them. Whenever, just in this moment, whenever we are just in this moment, I am seeing multiple figures step forward.

12:10 Whenever we are just in this moment.

12:12 Whenever we are just in this moment, I am seeing multiple figures step forward.

12:16 We should mention Veronica lost the use of language for a little bit and has gotten it back. And we're so happy. A ghost got into her mouth and she couldn't speak for a year.

12:26 And I wanted to look at her mouth every day to make sure things were okay.

12:29 I don't think that's why you were looking.

12:30 I also don't think that's why you were looking. But I appreciate the concern nonetheless. That year was one of the darkest of my life. In that time, the ghosts did not permit me to speak. They took away my voice so that I could listen to theirs. And in that time, my connection to the other world grew stronger and stronger and stronger. And now I can bro down with literally any ghost who steps forward. Just now, there is a football player I'm getting with the letter M stepping forward. M, does that M mean anything to you? Normally, there are more people.

13:03 So you got a football player with the letter M on the back or in the front?

13:06 Where?

13:07 I'm getting the letter.

13:08 Is he saying M?

13:09 The letter M.

13:09 His name is M?

13:10 The name is.

13:11 I'm getting the letter M. So the letter M could be connected to his name. It could be connected to his shirt. It could be connected to his catchphrase. It could be connected to his profession.

13:20 Maybe it's something to do with Michigan. And if it's that, we can't touch that. That's not on the coast.

13:23 That is not in our purview. We do L.A. and New York.

13:27 This is not a coastal ghost. Back away. I am now.

13:30 going to have to ask you respectfully bro bro respectfully you're gonna have to go love you though dude love.

13:36 You there's something about veronica's kind of ability with ghosts they really respect her in a bro way i've never seen somebody bro down with ghosts harder than a.

13:45 Lot of us will do different things when interacting with ghosts but the way you kind of always take a knee And just like sit down with the ghost. I've never seen a ghost hunter on TV sit down and hang.

13:56 Because the saddest thing about the male loneliness epidemic is that it's been happening for years and years and years and years and years. And so many of these men died before they were able to put a name to that. All these Civil War generals, all these ancient Roman soldiers died. All these ancient guys who were cowboys, they never got to, hey, say, you know what? Hey, in this moment, I am feeling male lonely. They never got to say that.

14:26 If Paul Revere could.

14:28 It was so important when you taught me the phrase male lonely. It's an adjective.

14:34 I am feeling male lonely. M, male lonely.

14:39 Do you think that football player was male lonely?

14:40 Maybe it's must see teeth.

14:44 Maybe it's must-see TV.

14:46 Do you want me to call him back?

14:48 Yeah, I think call him back. Let's see what we can get. I'll see if I can hear anything that he records. And I will sense him on my light monitor. Whoa, this is going crazy.

14:55 Hey, dog.

14:56 Hey, boss man. Hey, boss man. Step back into the space, bro. We just want to talk to you for a second. Can I dap you up, brother? Can I dap you up? Can I dap you up, brother?

15:05 Whoa.

15:07 Wait a second. I just heard something back.

15:08 What'd you hear?

15:09 Let's replay it. See what he said. You're going to say, can I dap you up?

15:12 Can I dap you up, brother?

15:13 I'm good. No, thanks. I'm good. Thank you.

15:17 Why are you here? Hey!

15:20 Wait, let's play that again. Oh my goodness, I'm shaking. Say what you just said. Why are you here?

15:27 I was just a little lost. I was just a little lost looking for.

15:31 I was just looking for something. What can we do for you? I'm just wondering where.

15:39 Do you guys know where.

15:42 I'm trying to Do the Macarena somewhere?

15:45 I love dancing. M. Macarena. M.

15:49 Macarena.

15:50 Of course. It all makes sense.

15:52 Wait.

15:53 Play the Macarena and then maybe we'll get him to appear in the corporeal form.

15:58 Hey! Oh, man, I love that.

16:10 Song.

16:11 Thank you.

16:12 Whoa, look at that flashing light.

16:14 Holy shit, I have goosebumps. That was insane.

16:16 Holy shit, I have chills.

16:18 Oh, my God. Were my pants cuffed before? No.

16:21 No.

16:22 Were my pants cuffed before?

16:25 No. No.

16:27 We have to.

16:37 Say that even though we can't prove it was a ghost, things make it unabashedly clear that that could have easily been a ghost.

16:44 We must talk.

16:44 About our favorite ghost encounters and maybe even play clips.

16:48 Yeah, that's a great idea. That's a great idea. We can play clips from some of our favorite.

16:52 Whoa! Don't fuck with me!

16:55 That actually was scary. That was actually terrifying. That was really scary.

16:59 I'll tell you this.

17:00 Our show is one of the top shows for ghosts.

17:05 That is so true. That is absolutely true, Stefano. And if you look up at the metrics for how many people are watching ghost shows, with ours, it's at the top always.

17:17 Yes.

17:18 I don't know why the views aren't there, but the ghosts are. It's hard because we have so many ghost encounters.

17:28 We have a lot and nobody is watching us. We want to be clear, it's happening for real. And it's crazy. And they come to us and they ask us for things. And we do things for them.

17:37 It's crazy.

17:37 Let's play some of our favorite moments.

17:39 I'll establish something about a lot of these ghost shows, similar to ours, is it's very hard to prove.

17:45 That we've actually had any real ghost encounter. Of course.

17:49 We see a lot of thermal scans where something heats up and we go, now that's got to be something that wasn't there before. We hear a lot of noises, a lot of sounds, but there's no way to actually prove you've seen a ghost and we just hate skeptics.

18:03 And the thing is, you know, there's something that I like to call the ghost camera fallacy. You know, people assume that because you're filming these encounters, you're faking them. It's Hollywood magic. And that's not true.

18:15 It's a fallacy, dude. That's the fallacy.

18:18 That's the fallacy.

18:19 The fallacy part is, that's not true. And it's a lie.

18:22 Suck my fallacy.

18:24 Yeah. Suck my fallacy. Suck my fallacy, for real.

18:27 Suck my fallacy. These ghosts are real.

18:29 All them haters can suck my fucking fallacy.

18:32 You can suck my fallacy right now.

18:33 You must go to cafepress.com and find our Buy Ghosts So merch that says suck my fallacy on the front.

18:39 Yeah.

18:40 We have.

18:40 Some of the most authentic encounters that I've ever seen on a ghost show.

18:46 I think we should play some of our best clips.

18:49 My favorite moment was when we went to the old, when we went to St. Patrick's Cathedral in the middle of New York City.

18:59 This was terrifying. The ghost.

19:02 The coast. East coast.

19:04 We are here at St. Patrick's Cathedral.

19:06 We are walking down the aisle of the main cathedral looking for different souls that might have found their way into the church.

19:16 I am looking around. They're turning the lights off on us.

19:19 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

19:22 Holy shit. Holy shit. What do you guys feel?

19:25 What do you see?

19:25 Okay, okay, okay.

19:26 Guys, I hit a cold spot. It's cold.

19:29 Okay, I'm running over there. I'm running to you. I'm running to you. I'm running to you.

19:31 Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God.

19:33 Oh, my gosh. Okay, so this cold spot. Okay, okay, okay.

19:36 Wait, guys, guys, guys, guys.

19:37 Sorry to be behind here. Where are you feeling it cold?

19:39 I don't feel it. Come over here closer to us. Come over here.

19:42 Come over here close.

19:43 Put your hand in the center.

19:44 Do you feel that cold spot?

19:46 Come closer to my face. Come closer to my face.

19:49 Oh, I feel cold.

19:51 Yeah, it's cold right here.

19:53 Meanwhile.

19:54 Hey, guys, I'm Tuttle. So I'm kind of alone in one of these chapels. They're all in the main cathedral. They put me off the side of the chapel. They say, hey, Tuttle, you do your own thing.

20:04 You got it. We got it. So I'm just here to, you know. Tuttle?

20:12 Hello?

20:15 Sorry.

20:16 I'm by myself, so I don't really have anybody to say you guys see that, but.

20:19 Meanwhile, in the main cathedral, there once was a man that died because he missed his wife so much. So I put on a dress, and I'm pretending to be a wife. And now as a wife, I'm going to see if he's gonna try to flirt with me.

20:33 Casey, be careful. You look just like a wife. I know.

20:38 Oh, goodness.

20:38 I wish I had a man to make something for, whether it be a home craft or even a.

20:44 Clang.

20:45 Oh.

20:46 Oh, my gosh, the cross.

20:48 The cross fell over. That cross that was crooked when we walked in, it fell over.

20:52 It fell over?

20:53 Meanwhile, hey, I'm Veronica. I'm here in the confessional booth dressed as a priest, and I'm going to see if I can get any spirits to come in and confess their sins to me.

21:03 Is this confession?

21:06 Whoa, that came in super clear. Yes, it is a confession.

21:10 I only have 20 minutes. I'm going back to my bank. Bro, listen.

21:15 I am.

21:17 In need of communicating with you. Please tell me why you're still here in this realm.

21:23 I just stopped by to confess during work.

21:26 I was blown away by how casual this ghost was speaking to me. I could not believe the casual tenor and how clear the message was.

21:36 Spirit, tell me now.

21:38 Do you have any unfinished business here? Anything you wish to confess before you pass on to the next realm?

21:44 I masturbated at work just now.

21:46 I could not believe this ghost was giving me such a clear confession.

21:50 Meanwhile.

21:52 Um, so, yeah, um... Um, hey, ghost.

21:55 It's me. The guy whose wife died.

22:03 Wait, sorry.

22:03 Are you guys hearing this? Are you guys hearing this? I heard two distinct noises. I heard, it's me, the guy whose wife died.

22:09 And.

22:11 Some sort of bird. Meanwhile, oh, time to take off my stockings. I should take off.

22:18 That episode, I don't think, really shows that we saw a ghost.

22:21 Because we did look into it.

22:23 I don't know.

22:23 That was a real person who went to the confessional.

22:26 But it looked like a ghost.

22:27 That was just some finance guy who mastered many a word. And then also got off on confessing it to a priest. So maybe that's not a good episode to show.

22:34 It was tough that we couldn't show the actual footage of the man because he was getting off to that.

22:39 But it was a very good episode to show because it shows that when Tuttle gets scared, he kind of begins to sound like Cartman, which I thought was very interesting.

22:48 And I think that's when we learned.

22:50 Like, separating is kind of hard.

22:52 I got that Cartman fear. I got that Cartman fear.

22:55 But, you know, we're taking after the precedent that other ghost shows have sent where they send one scared guy alone into a room and.

23:04 We lock him up. Always send me, poor old Tuttle alone.

23:08 Are you scared right now? I'm a little scared. That lightning earlier really scared me.

23:13 Really freaked you.

23:13 Oh, no.

23:14 You just sounded like Corbin again.

23:15 Tuttle, it's okay.

23:16 Tuttle, it's okay.

23:17 It's how I always sound, I think.

23:18 Tuttle, Tuttle, Tuttle, you're scared.

23:20 Tuttle, Tuttle, Tuttle.

23:21 I'm a little scared. Tuttle, you're scared.

23:22 No, I think it's always how I sound.

23:23 Like, when I'm scared, I get goosebumps. When you're scared, you sound like this.

23:26 I think it's always how I sound. You don't sound like this. This is always how it sounds.

23:31 Anyway.

23:31 No, Tuttle must be scared.

23:33 Shitless right now. I like that episode for two reasons. One, I definitely heard a ghost. That's kind of undeniable.

23:39 You guys keep on saying, Tuttle ain't here, nothing.

23:42 But then I loved when you started taking off your stockings.

23:46 That's my favorite part about Casey. He's always going to go the extra mile.

23:50 There is no doubt that the ghost in there knew I was a wife. It was amazing.

23:55 Casey does this thing that we push and pull a lot. sometimes I feel like what's Casey's doing. Some people online say this and I disagree wholeheartedly that sometimes Casey is being so big and loud that ghosts would be terrified and scared and don't even want to go near him.

24:11 But I disagree.

24:12 I think you're doing a great job bringing them closer. I mean, Have you ever had a full ghost encounter? Like, has anything talked to you?

24:18 I certainly have.

24:19 And I want to say, anybody who's worried I'm being too loud for a ghost, I want to remind you that you leave your ears in the corporal realm. I remind you that your ears do not go with you, which are the mechanisms that bring voice to your brain. They have neither brain nor ear nor voice. So I use my vibrations to shock their vibratious, innervacious souls. And I have seen a ghost.

24:45 Well, of course, we'll play on.

24:47 Okay, well, recently, I was recently in one of our episodes, one of my favorite new episodes.

24:53 Season 42.

24:54 Season 42. We do four seasons a year.

24:57 We do four seasons a year. We are prolific.

25:01 This was, we were, of course, in the San Vicente bungalows in Santa Monica.

25:05 Scary.

25:06 Very scary.

25:07 A scary ghost.

25:07 A very scary ghost.

25:08 Built on the grounds of an old Hollywood bathhouse.

25:11 True story.

25:12 Yes.

25:13 So there were a lot of ghosts that were sweaty, wet, and looking for a break. Let's play the clip.

25:20 Hi, I am here in the San Vicente bungalows in a spa outfit. I am shirtless and wearing a towel. I'm pretending to be sitting in a sauna, seeing if other ghosts will come in and try to talk to me.

25:34 Oh, it's so hot in here. Better take off my stockings.

25:41 Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

25:43 I'm getting chills.

25:44 Oh, my gosh.

25:44 My hair is standing on end. My penis is standing on end. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. My hair is standing on end. My penis is standing on end. Oh, my gosh.

25:53 So just pause right now. We got to be honest. That was a complete mistake. We had a microphone attached to Casey's belly.

26:00 He was hungry.

26:02 So what he was confusing for noises from a ghost was actually his own belly.

26:07 And that's when we realized Casey's got some wires turned that when he's hungry, he's horny.

26:11 When he's horny, he's hungry. And there's just a lot of.

26:14 I will admit, in hindsight, I heard my own grumbling stomach and got aroused.

26:23 Let's keep all play to click. Oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh.

26:28 Who are you, spirit?

26:29 Oh, actually, I should act like I'm in a spa. Oh, pretty crazy day there, huh? Occupied.

26:38 Busy.

26:39 Occupied. Occupied.

26:41 I have a Postmates order for Casey.

26:43 Leave that there. What is it?

26:45 It's the sweet green you ordered.

26:46 Oh, yeah, leave that down there. It's mostly bread, right?

26:50 What did you say?

26:53 I said it's mostly bread. It's lettuce with six sides of bread.

26:57 What did you say?

26:59 Pause.

27:00 Now, as much as you think that's a ghost, it was actually two different people delivering the sweet greens. Like, you know, when a couple pulls up. You're like, now what is going on?

27:09 And there's simply no way they're both making money off this.

27:12 Nothing spookier.

27:13 And you're like, who asked if the other could come?

27:17 And you guys are so codependent.

27:19 There's a story here. that I'm trying to figure out, and I'm too scared to ask.

27:24 There are many unexplainable things in this world, but nothing is spookier than when a gig worker brings his wife.

27:31 Or when the wife brings somebody, and you don't know who that is.

27:35 And you're like, was this the only time they could hang?

27:39 Let's jump back into it. Okay. Thank you both. I hope this is your last delivery. Sure.

27:46 We have one more, babe.

27:49 Meanwhile.

27:50 Okay, hi, it's me, Tuttle, and they, well, I'm here at the San Vicente Bungalow. I'm in the steam room where they are, the back rooms of the steam room. They say if you come here late at night, you can hear somebody talking to somebody else like an old mob deal.

28:07 And I'm just wondering if.

28:09 Tuttle.

28:11 Hello?

28:12 Tuttle, we've been watching you.

28:14 How many monies are you willing to spend, Tuttle?

28:19 What's going on? How many monies are you willing to spend?

28:22 God damn it. How many monies are you willing to spend, Tuttle?

28:27 Money.

28:28 I'm so scared.

28:28 How many monies is your life.

28:30 Worth, Tuttle?

28:31 What's your names? God damn it.

28:33 Oh, God damn it.

28:34 Kenny.

28:35 Oh, God damn it. Kenny. God damn it. What are your names?

28:38 What are your names? Kenny.

28:40 Tuttle, we know our names. We knew you before you joined the human realm. Come back, Tuttle. What are you talking about?

28:49 Come back, Tuttle.

28:51 Come back, Tuttle.

28:53 Go into the light. Remember us from the hospital room?

28:57 Oh, God damn it. Oh, my God.

28:59 I'm so scared. I remember you guys.

29:01 You guys were hanging out with me.

29:03 We know the pony tunnel.

29:05 Meanwhile, I am putting on fake sweat to make it look like I've been sitting in a sauna for a long time.

29:13 Hey, so sorry.

29:14 Occupado.

29:15 We need a four-digit code. Before we leave for the Postmates.

29:18 Oh, you're the couple again? Yeah. Did you send it?

29:21 No, you have to give us the code.

29:23 Where? Did it come as a text or an email?

29:25 It should be a text on your phone.

29:28 I don't have it as a text.

29:30 Hey, guys, babes, my car's parked in a loading zone, so are you guys going to be back soon?

29:36 Hey, baby.

29:37 In that moment, Casey was back behind. I was behind Casey Stefano. And that's when I went, I hear a hot woman. That must be a ghost.

29:46 Yeah. And then he knocked me out of the way.

29:50 Now, just for a pause for a second, we did realize that was a third person in the first person's car. It led to a bigger mystery than before. I have never, ever seen a gig worker bring two other people. And she was older than them.

30:13 We eventually deduced. What we deduced from that interaction was that they were a thruple. But she was older, which is a dynamic we find to be very interesting.

30:27 I've never seen a thruple where the third is an older person.

30:33 Normally, people in thruples play with their own age.

30:36 And she mentions parking behind them, which means Is she just following them around in a separate car for this Postmates drop-off?

30:45 It was definitely a mystery for all of us.

30:46 And where was she going if they were going together? Why did she need to move? Why did she need the car to move?

30:52 Our leading theory is that the people who were driving the Postmates car had a lot of stuff in the backseat, so they did not have enough room for their third to ride along. But she still wanted to participate. And that's when we asked if we could ghost hunt the backseat of their car. Yes.

31:06 And that was episode 42. Yeah.

31:07 It was great. I mean, that was such a good example of you seeing a ghost for sure.

31:11 I think so. And yours, I mean, we don't know about yours. Well, it was just, I found it interesting. Like, you guys are always saying, I don't know about yours.

31:17 Mine felt very clearly three people that I had seen before in the hospital. But I felt like we just got distracted on the whole gig worker situation.

31:24 That was going on.

31:25 It could be the orb light thing. You know, orbs are easily disproved. And EMF readers, I mean, they're very easy to disprove.

31:32 Absolutely.

31:32 And Tunnel, we got to follow the story.

31:33 Yeah, absolutely.

31:34 And obviously that throuple.

31:35 Had a story.

31:36 Three clear voices saying we saw you in the hospital room and we know the pony referencing something I've told very few people.

31:43 What's tough, Tuttle, is that a lot of times we are not in the room with you due to choices we made organizationally. So we can't be there to verify your claims.

31:52 Yeah, absolutely. I totally get that. I totally get that.

31:54 So a lot of the experiences you have are between you and the spirit world.

31:57 Absolutely. And it's always been like that and always will be like that no matter how hard I try, this world.

32:02 to tell people what my real abilities are.

32:05 He's scared again.

32:06 He's getting scared.

32:06 Veronica, you had an undeniable spiritual experience at Ellis Island.

32:11 I had an undeniable spiritual experience at Ellis Island. There I was at Ellis Island. I was dressed up As a employee of Ellis Island, the museum, so that no one would suspect who I was. No one would know that I was actually a ghost communicator in disguise.

32:30 And you went through full employment.

32:33 I onboarded for several months. What an incredible. I developed relationships with my coworkers so that I could leverage them to trade shifts later. I got in deep on the scheduling system. I completed seven sexual harassment seminars because I failed the first six times. Oh, so Ellis Island just has one and you failed it that many times?

32:55 Was it one question that kept stumping you or several?

32:59 There was one question that I learned was an automatic fail, if you get it wrong. Which is, is there ever a situation where you have to touch your fellow co-workers behind? And I said yes, because I am coming from the ghost hunting world, where sometimes we have to get physical.

33:19 When there's a ghost on someone's ass, it's so tough to navigate.

33:23 Because you have to touch.

33:24 It's impossible to not touch.

33:25 It's impossible to not touch. You have to have your back. I have had all of your backs at a certain point.

33:30 You have. More than just my back.

33:33 And there is always a situation in ghost hunting where this comes up. So it was a tough thing for me to acclimate to government-owned facilities where this is not the case.

33:43 When I thought there was a ghost in between both of my balls.

33:48 You had.

33:48 You're so helpful in that situation.

33:49 You were so helpful.

33:51 I had to get down there, up in between your balls, and tell the ghost, bro, this is not where you want to be.

33:56 Do you remember what happened after that? Do you remember what happened after that? It's hazy.

34:02 Roll the tape.

34:05 Oh my god, I don't know if I can do this anymore with the radio in between my balls.

34:09 Stefano believes he has a ghost between his balls.

34:13 Veronica, quick!

34:15 Listen, Stefano, you can't move, okay? I am going to attempt to talk to the bro between your scrotum.

34:22 Hello?

34:23 Hey, hey man, what's up? First of all, what the hell is up, man? No, not much, boss man, not much.

34:28 Veronica believes by helping them grow out and help with their male loneliness, she can get the ghost out of Stefano's balls.

34:36 I like to dap up a ghost before I communicate with them because it opens the portal to communication. Hey, brother, what's up? No, good to see you. Hey, boss man, what's up?

34:44 Keep it good?

34:45 Yeah, Mets have a crazy season this season.

34:47 Yeah, that's nuts.

34:48 Boss man, what's up, boss man? Hey, listen, bro. I know you're real male lonely, and you've got to get in between a scrotum to hang out.

34:55 Veronica believes she must get as close as she can to the ghost in order for it to get out of the way.

34:59 Veronica, please, is it working?

35:01 I can't do this anymore.

35:03 I'm really getting there with this guy.

35:05 Hey, we have to open up this to borrow in like 20 minutes. Not yet.

35:10 We need a minute.

35:12 Please, I'm begging you.

35:14 Listen, bro, I don't know if you can hear me, but I want you to know you don't have to hide in a scrotum to make sure that you to feel seen. You know, you can tell me if something's up. You want to grab a quick bite in the seance room? We set up a seance over there if you want to come hang with me.

35:30 Veronica, I can't hear the ghost.

35:32 Is he responding to you? I think so.

35:36 I'm pretty sure.

35:37 I don't want to interrupt, but I was in the bathroom just ago, and I heard a voice saying 12, 13, 43 over and over again to me like it was the day I was going to die or something bad was going to happen.

35:47 Total, respectfully, I have a weird spot in between my balls that Veronica's looking at.

35:52 God damn it.

35:53 God damn it. Okay, I'll be back. I am dressed as an Italian pizza man. Wow, what a great clip. What a great clip.

35:59 You know, I thought we'd see the place of Ellis Island, but I'm glad we went to a safari instead.

36:02 Well, that was a different episode.

36:04 That was a different episode.

36:04 We haven't even gotten to what happened at Ellis Island.

36:07 We have to get to Ellis Island.

36:08 Let's go to Ellis Island.

36:09 Let's go to Ellis Island.

36:09 We must hear about your spiritual experience at Ellis Island.

36:11 Yeah, what happened?

36:12 This is my.

36:13 Well, as you know, Ellis Island was an immigrant story. Ellis Island is a place.

36:18 Ellis.

36:19 Island was an immigrant story.

36:21 It was.

36:22 The island itself, it's like New York's a character.

36:24 Ellis Island was an immigrant story. Not only.

36:27 Not only is it a place where immigrants went through, in itself is an immigrant story.

36:32 The story of Ellis Island is one of an immigrant story.

36:35 Of course. So many souls.

36:38 Passed through Ellis Island, not just on their way for citizenship, but also on their way to the great beyond. Because some people had heart attacks in line.

36:48 That's correct. That is correct. That has to be correct. We can't deny that.

36:53 That just has to be correct statistically. So what I did was I dressed up as an Ellis Island employee, and I was actually legally an Ellis Island employee. We've gotten that far. So I stood in line.

37:06 I waited.

37:07 I got the closing shift. I made sure to trade three ways with Brian to not arise suspicion. I obtained the closing shift and brought you guys in.

37:16 Then.

37:17 I started to communicate with the bros who were in line. A lot of these people were Polish immigrants from the year 1880.

37:23 1880.

37:23 I think it all makes sense.

37:29 No, it's right.

37:30 I think it all makes sense.

37:32 It's about 15 years early, but it's close.

37:34 I mean, carry the one.

37:35 I think it's fine.

37:35 It's close. It's really close. I'm proud of you for getting so close.

37:39 The vibe I was getting was pretty close to then.

37:41 Okay. Okay, let's jump in. Here's the clip.

37:44 Ooh.

37:45 Veronica is dressed up as an employee of Ellis Island in order to look into it. We'll see if she can connect to a ghost. She's aiming for Polish immigrants. We'll see how close she can get.

37:58 Hey, bro.

38:02 I am currently hearing the dialogue of two Polish immigrants. It is here coming forward clear as day. They are stepping forward into our realm. I am going to attempt to dap them up.

38:13 Veronica believes that that nonsense kind of language is Polish.

38:17 We'll see what happens.

38:18 Hey, bros, what's up?

38:19 What's up? Hey, what's up, boss man?

38:21 You coming into the country?

38:22 What's up?

38:25 I could not communicate with them. It sent chills down my spine.

38:30 Veronica would later learn that these were two tourists taking a late museum tour. They didn't understand when it closed.

38:38 I am not understanding a word they're saying. However, I'm picking up on one word, which sounds like pierogi. So I'm going to attempt to use that to my advantage. Hey, boss man, I know a great pierogi spot in New York City.

38:52 Pierogi.

38:53 Greenpoint in Brooklyn.

38:54 You ever been to Greenpoint? Hey, that's awesome.

39:00 You know, you want to... What if we took a picture? We could maybe follow each other on Instagram, and then I can, you know, and then we can.

39:09 No, no.

39:10 I was floundering.

39:12 I was getting nowhere with these spirits. I knew they were there, but I couldn't make heads or tails of them.

39:17 Upon further watch of this, there was clearly a Polish ghost right behind Veronica, but she never paid attention to because she was very distracted by the tourists.

39:24 Yeah, bro. That's me. exactly. You want to be my friend.

39:33 You want to be my friend. Hey, selfie. Oh my God. I now have irrefutable photographic evidence of two ghosts.

39:43 Veronica would later learn that she took the camera the wrong way, thus missing the ghost of the selfie, but taking a photo of the two tourists. Hey, guys, I hate to interrupt, but there was a situation over there in the back rooms where it felt like some sort of Irish man was grabbing my throat.

39:58 Cut to that. We're coming for you. God damn it. You might remember us from the hospital.

40:04 Do you remember us?

40:06 Riding your pony to the other side.

40:09 Can you guys hear this?

40:11 Can you guys hear this on the camera?

40:15 I got your ankles.

40:16 12, 13, 43.

40:16 12, 13, 43.

40:16 12, 13, 43.

40:16 Shut up.

40:17 Shut up. I want to hear that.

40:20 Shut up.

40:20 Oh, shut up, you assholes. Shut up. God damn.

40:27 It.

40:27 Hey, what kind of message are you trying? What happens on 12-13-43? What happens on 12-13-43?

40:31 Meanwhile, I'm in the harbor, dressed as the Statue of Liberty.

40:38 Wow, what a great episode that was. Casey.

40:41 That was when I was gone.

40:42 Yeah, you were gone.

40:48 Well, you were on your own. I think I was gone for that one. You said, Ellis Island spooked me out too much. I'll be up the coast seeing what I can find. And boy, did you find something.

40:57 You were in Cape Cod in that moment.

40:59 Can we show the Cape Cod experience?

41:01 I do believe we have footage of you enjoying yourself in Cape Cod.

41:06 There was a very supernatural moment, though.

41:08 Listen, the Reddit said.

41:09 Buried in there. But most of it was you just enjoyed yourself in Cape Cod.

41:12 The Reddit said that that Hooters was haunted. I wanted to see.

41:17 Let's cut to it. Hi, honey.

41:18 How you doing?

41:19 Yeah, I'm doing great. Can I get the sampler platter, please?

41:21 Yeah, of course. So that comes with three flavors of wings. Do you want to pick your flavors? Or we can pick for you.

41:27 Um.

41:28 Which flavor do ghosts like more?

41:31 I guess I wouldn't know that. The most popular is buffalo.

41:34 You got a nice smile there.

41:36 Thank you so much. Honey, is that it? So buffalo, lemon pepper, we got mango habanero, we got our barbecue, we got Asian flavor spice.

41:47 Stop.

41:47 Keep listing them.

41:49 Okay. I think I'm about it. We don't have a lot of options here.

41:54 Stop.

41:54 People usually just get.

41:55 Keep going.

41:57 Okay, so I'm just going to get you down for a sampler, and we'll just pick in the back.

41:59 Okay.

42:01 All right.

42:03 In that moment, she walked away, but I saw, looked like a hologram of a tail.

42:20 Oh, fuck. I'm not with the crew. I don't have my stuff. All I have is my walkie. Ghost, are you there?

42:28 Are you there? What are you here for?

42:36 What do you need?

42:41 Sampler platter.

42:44 Perfect. I just ordered one. Honey, can you cover him? Because I don't like him. He's giving me a code. He's a code orange.

42:49 He's giving you the egg.

42:50 He's a code orange.

42:51 He's a code. Oh, well, honey, do you want to? Do you want to? I'm a little slammed right now. Do you want to take it but put a button up your buttons?

42:59 Yeah, I'm going to put on a cardigan.

43:02 Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm just playing.

43:06 It's so cold in this. It's like they know what we're dressed in. Why is it so cold in here?

43:12 It is so cold in this Hooters. Honestly, I feel like everybody is conspiring against us.

43:17 I put on a cardigan because that was too cold in this Hooters. We found that these Hooters, restaurant waiters, very interesting. We decided to follow them and start a show.

43:28 Jeremy, you're looking like really sad right now.

43:30 Thank you so much. I tried better help and it didn't work. Check out our Patreon. Instead of getting therapy. So, yeah, you came back from Cape Cod.

43:44 And I guess I was gone for that one, too.

43:46 You came back from Cape Cod with a spinoff, which was really cool.

43:48 Yeah, and it was mostly about those girls, but I was happy to be there.

43:53 Well, I will say the hologram of the tale. What do you think that was?

43:56 I don't know. I was dying to know.

43:57 And we just cut you off. You'd just gotten some sort of contact over your walkie-talkie. Yeah, but then we followed those girls. It was just so cold in that Hooters, though.

44:05 And honestly, I'm really... It is tough.

44:08 Our cameras, we have a... I think there's a glitch with our cameras where we keep following service workers.

44:13 Like, I think that... I think we gotta get that fixed. Well, I think there's a lot of ghosts. I think it's a camera problem.

44:20 They just got such interesting stories. They're very interesting. I find them interesting.

44:24 We didn't realize that we had the first footage of, like, how Hooters women are treated.

44:29 Nobody had ever known.

44:30 Nobody?

44:31 Nobody?

44:32 Had ever documented how Hooters women were really treated.

44:36 We're really excited about, we're in.

44:38 The final stages of cutting this footage down and we're going to submit it to Sundance.

44:43 We believe it is going to be more shocking than the AI doc.

44:48 I just think people always make so many assumptions, but they don't know what it's really like in there, and it's cold.

44:53 But let's jump to one of my favorite clips. I mean, this is so exciting because three of you really had a big part in this.

44:59 This was in the old ballet hall in Venice Beach. There's a big ballet hall. It's a hall. It's a big hall where they used to do.

45:10 Ballet shows, really old, old, old ballet shows in the early 1850s, 1860s. right when Los Angeles kind of was being settled in, in a way. And it was so interesting to see how you guys handled this situation. I mean, it spooked me the hell, the hell up.

45:28 This was one of the spookiest encounters we have ever, ever experienced on Bi Ghost Talk.

45:34 What I think is the spookiest is a ghost is spooky, but a ghost in a tutu is chilling.

45:40 And this is one of these moments where I know we have to deny. You hear that? Yes.

45:45 Wait a second. Do you hear that? What's that? Oh my god. Oh my god. It's just like the ballet hall.

45:53 It's just like the ballet. Do you think one of us has an attachment?

46:00 Are we summoning?

46:02 Because if we brought a spirit back with us from the ballet hall and they have formed an attachment to.

46:07 Us, there is no hope.

46:09 And I can tell right now, I'm getting very agitated. I'm feeling very agitated. I'm feeling right now in this moment like I could eat all of you.

46:21 Oh my god, this might be her attachment. She could eat all of us.

46:24 I could eat all of you.

46:26 My hair's standing on end, my penis is standing on end. This is crazy.

46:28 Holy shit, Casey's hungry.

46:31 Here we go. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. Let's try to talk to the ghost. Hello, are you there? Spirit, spirit, do you hear us?

46:39 Plie!

46:40 Plie! Plie!

46:43 And you sure that's not just you making that noise? You sure you promise it's not you doing a prank on us, Veronica?

46:48 Veronica, are you sure?

46:49 Are you doing a prank on us, Veronica?

46:50 Veronica!

46:51 Has a female.

46:51 I promise.

46:52 I promise.

46:54 Has a female ballerina jealous of you being friends with all the guys gotten into your body?

46:58 Veronica, that's gotta be it.

47:01 This is so fucked up.

47:02 Speak through you guys.

47:03 It's the one ghost I can't talk to. I can't bro down with a woman.

47:07 There's no way.

47:08 Well.

47:08 Let her speak through you. Excuse me. Plié.

47:15 Plié. Raparté. An old woman.

47:17 Raparté.

47:18 Plié.

47:18 She's the headmistress.

47:20 The headmaster.

47:22 What we know so far is that she could be a ballerina and she is either Veronica is hungry or she is hungry.

47:28 Because she did say she could eat all of us. Don't forget that part. Mrs.

47:33 We want to know why have you taken our friend's body?

47:38 I have taken the body.

47:39 Oh, my God, a voice change.

47:41 Because I'm very hungry.

47:45 She's hungry.

47:46 They don't feed us in the ballet hall. And I'm only hungry for one thing. It was a food I was introduced to 15 years ago in a hospital room.

48:01 What?

48:01 15 years?

48:03 That's right. I'm 22.

48:05 15 years ago. Wait, wait.

48:07 What food did you.

48:08 Get in the hospital room?

48:10 I'm hungry for a soul I met in the hospital room.

48:14 Oh, okay.

48:16 I'm hungry.

48:18 What was the food, Tunnel? What did you eat? You guys, she doesn't want the food I ate. She wants my salt. Are you not listening to her?

48:24 Casey, Casey.

48:25 Are you not listening to her?

48:26 Casey, I'm hard as a rock.

48:27 Look at her teeth.

48:28 I'm going to eat a salt.

48:29 Those aren't Veronica's teeth.

48:31 I'm going to eat a salt.

48:32 I want to fuck those teeth. No, those are Veronica's teeth.

48:36 Guys, please help me.

48:36 Please help me.

48:37 Guys, please help me. Please, please.

48:39 And I'm even hungrier when they sound like Cartman.

48:43 Okay. I don't sound like Cartman. I'm helping.

48:45 I'm putting on a ballerina outfit.

48:47 This doesn't help. This doesn't help.

48:48 This doesn't help.

48:50 I can help.

48:51 I am now just a beautiful.

48:53 Your tricks will never. Hold on.

48:56 Five, six, seven, eight. Step, step, step, and step, and step.

49:00 Abigail?

49:01 Abigail, is that you?

49:03 Yes, and I'm going to go all the way to the New York Ballet and leave Venice behind.

49:07 Abigail, no.

49:09 Yes.

49:09 It was supposed to be the two of us together.

49:11 Well, then come with me. Come with me out of this hall.

49:16 Knock, knock.

49:16 Sorry, me and my kids are here. I have an order for Buffalo Wild Wings.

49:21 You have an order for Buffalo Wings? I brought my kids. I just picked them up from school. Lady, have you had Buffalo Wild Wings?

49:28 I've never had Buffalo Wild Wings.

49:32 Perhaps I'll give it a try. I'm going to kiss her. I'm going to kiss her.

49:39 I'm going to kiss her. Kiss her.

49:40 Kiss her. Kiss her.

49:47 Thank you, guys.

49:48 Wow.

49:49 It turns out your tutu and you committing sexual harassment on a coworker saved my life.

49:57 Wow i will always.

49:58 Be indebted to you because the truth is so you stop speaking for a second how are you.

50:02 Please one second no problem no problem.

50:08 So just i understand that was scary for you yeah that was so that was.

50:12 Scary i think she's fine i think she's fine.

50:17 Are you throwing.

50:20 Up because of the ghost or because of the kiss from Stefano?

50:24 Oh my god. Oh my god. I don't want to do the show anymore.

50:43 What? You can't quit.

50:44 I don't want to do the show anymore. If that can fucking happen, I'm never fucking doing that again. Veronica's different.

50:51 Veronica, is this because I kissed you?

50:54 Is this because I kissed you? No, no, no, no, no.

50:58 Find your voice. Find it again.

51:00 No.

51:02 You're back.

51:02 I'm sorry for what I said. I would never quit this show. But you have to understand, being full-on possessed is something I don't wish on any of you, And I don't wish it to ever happen to any of us.

51:14 Thank you, Veronica. And I've got something to tell you guys. Thank you.

51:19 The three of you worked together to free me from this prison I'm in.

51:24 That's right. Tuttle was dead 15 years ago.

51:30 What? What?

51:34 This has been artists on artists on artists answering the question now.

51:37 That's why I call it showbiz.

51:39 Live from the beautiful Dynasty Typewriter.

51:43 Go to the after shows on our Patreon and go see us talk about this and so many other things, including a cool musical that we did recently.

51:51 It's wild stuff over there.

51:53 Where's Jeremy been this whole time?

51:55 Jeremy. Jeremy's been dead for 20 years.

51:58 Jeremy's never been here.

52:00 Bye.

52:02 Bye.

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