#687 - Kenny Chesney vs. Tim McGraw & Beloved Songs We’d Eliminate Forever + Cover Songs Better Than Original

Hey everybody, welcome to this episode. In the last episode, we talked about Garth Brooks and George Strait, and we compared the two. And we did their biggest songs, one versus the other, and in the end, there was a 6-4 win, Garth over George Strait.

You guys remember that?

I remember.

Last week, the same time.

I was there.

It was all opinion, because They're arguably the two greatest icons in country music history.

Arguably being the word.

And when we posted that, we had so many people in the comments that were so sure that they were right.

No one's right.

This is opinion-based, right? Yes. Stuff like this?

I can read you some of the comments. And that video popped off. So, a random comment. There will be no Garth without King George. Let's remember that.

Okay.

That's not true.

Okay. Garth was probably influenced by George and says that. And also in country music, what you do is you pay homage to the greats before you. And Garth is very humble, at least plays extremely humble. And when someone says, oh, you were George Strait, he goes, hey, I wouldn't have been here without King George.

That's a good point. When he talks about George, he takes his hat off. But when he talks about my wife, he takes his hat off.

Okay.

Well, all right.

But I do think Garth loves George Strait, but it's just not true. If George Strait would have never existed, there still would have been a Garth Brooks.

Well, you don't know that either.

I would bet money on that.

That one single artist did not create the need for another single one of the great artists to go into this career and be as impactful over 30 to 40 years.

I think it's a safe bet. Okay.

So that's just one.

The next one is someone gets in the comments and says, George hits 60, number one, Garth, 19.

Okay.

Top 10 hits, George, 84, Garth, 36. Now, first of all, that George 60, number one, that is a misleading number because that is a combination of all the charts.

Oh.

Yeah. I didn't know that.

Okay.

It is.

I think he has 44.

If we're just using one chart, he has 44 Billboard country music number ones.

Still a ton.

Yeah.

But the 60, that was a big celebration. And I remember that.

And it was a big deal because he had 60 number ones when you combined all the charts. But all that's true, by the way. This is just cherry picking here. George, 60 number ones, Garth, 19. He says, George, 84 top tens, Garth, 36.

Fine.

But then you go to album sales. George, 69 million. Garth, 200 million.

You can't compare.

You can cherry pick any number you want to prove either way is the truth.

There is no truth.

You can have a debate about something and you don't have to be right.

There also doesn't have to be a right. This is all opinion based. By the way, we're going to do coming up Tim McGraw, Kenny Chesney.

Oh, oh my God. And they're old friends. Same.

Yeah.

They punch horses together. They did back in the day.

So I did an argument pro George and pro Garth. If you'd like to hear them before we move to our game, I would love to hear that. Okay. So this is George greater than Garth. George has more than twice as many billboard country. Number one's 44 versus 19. George Strait has a top 10 hit every year for more than three decades.

It's amazing.

That is complete staying power.

George has 33 platinum or multi-platinum albums. And George has a 110,000 ticketed seat concert sold. By the way, when he's 72, I know. So George Strait's argument is consistency at an unmatched level. consistently being really good he has more than twice Garth's Billboard number ones in the country and he's sold the biggest show ever so you could go yep it's George now one of the things though you could go George didn't write most of his.

Hits Garth did and that's going to be part of the.

Garth case so the argument for Garth Brooks is Garth has sold 200 million.

Albums 200 million.

It's the greatest in US history yeah it's amazing No other artist has.

Sold more than Garth Brooks.

It's the best selling in US history.

You know I bought all those, right? You bought all 200 million?

No.

Oh.

Every one of his albums.

Dude, that's why you're broke. You keep buying them over and over again. He has 10 diamond albums. The most of any artist ever. That means the album sold 10 million records.

Diamond.

The other is he wrote most of his hits.

That I didn't know.

You can use that. I can tell you exactly how many. Let me finish this first.

Okay.

Garth, if we're doing ticket sales from 2014 to 2017, that one tour, they sold 6.3 million tickets.

Wow.

For one tour.

Wow. That's amazing.

6 million tickets. So Garth's argument of greatness, one, he's younger.

Yeah.

So he hasn't had the time that George had yet, but it's how many people bought in 200 million albums, 10 diamond albums, seven CMA entertainer of the year awards. And the 6 million tickets on one tour is crazy.

Hey, and didn't he take a lot of time off in the middle of his career?

Yeah, to raise his kids. Retired.

In the middle of his career, not towards the end of his career where he's like, I'm older now. I'm just going to take some time off. No, in the middle where he could have just kept on pounding.

Interesting.

Like the Carolina Panthers?

Yeah, keep pounding.

So if you go over to my Instagram, MrBobbyBones, and leave a comment, I love it. But it doesn't have... to be definitive. Your arguments don't have to be, this is the absolute truth, especially when it's not based on anything that can be proven true.

There are arguments for both of them. Yes. We also did a poll on the Bobbycast Instagram. Yeah.

And it was 52% for Garth, 48% for George.

But I mean, there you go. That tells you how close it is.

And it should be close because you can argue for both of them. They both have stats. That nobody's going to overcome, at least not for a long time. And that was out of 200 million people, by the way.

The only thing, too, is just that George started in the 70s, 80s, right?

George started in the— for me, I feel like he's an 80s and early 90s country artist.

Yeah.

Although he's been around putting out hits forever, but yes.

Yeah, I think— yeah, maybe like even late 70s, but— Garth started later, so I understand it's hard to compare, and you're dealing with different kinds of people at different stages of life. You get into the whole, like, the best of all time. No, no, no. Johnny Cash was the best of all time versus somebody more current, right? So you have that. What I'm excited about this one, though, is that you have Tim and Kenny who are right there, neck and neck.

Because now they're doing, well, look, Combs, Morgan Wallen broke Garth's record.

Yeah.

Nothing really is the same because time allows new technologies to create new records.

Yes. Oh, and that could be the argument for Garth's more records sold. Do you want to hear the songwriting situation?

Yeah, for the hits. You're going to be blown away. Yeah, because I really thought... I fact-checked this twice. You're going to be blown away.

When you said this, I thought, like, no, dude, I don't think George... I mean, Garth wrote a lot of his songs.

So Garth, he had total Billboard country number ones. I believe I said the number was 19.

Yep. So Garth wrote.

10 of his 19 number ones.

No way.

So, if tomorrow never comes, unanswered prayers, the thunder rolls, what she's doing now, the river, somewhere other than the night, that summer, and going down to the sun comes up, she's every woman, the beaches of Cheyenne.

Dang, I had no idea.

George, of his 44, what do you think he wrote?

Of his 44? None. None. None.

I'm surprised it was zero.

Because I know there are some that he's written, like maybe just other album cuts or whatever, but no, not the hits.

There's a way to paint both of them as the greatest. And they both are the greatest. But can you both be the greatest? No, they're not both the greatest. That's like you're my best friend. There's no other best friend. Okay, but you're right. So let me say this again. To everybody, it's okay if one or the other is the greatest.

Okay.

You can call either one the greatest, and we're fine with that.

Yes.

Yeah.

Also, we don't care. It was just a fun little bit we were doing, more than anything else.

And it was fun.

To me, I was so surprised one at the Garth ticket sales, over six million on one tour, and I was surprised George didn't write any of his number ones.

Yeah.

That is surprising.

All right.

Do you guys want to do the deal?

Let's do it.

Let's go.

Tim McGraw versus Kenny Chesney. Ten rounds.

Ding, ding, ding, ding. I mean, it's almost not fair because I love Tim McGraw.

Same.

I love Tim McGraw.

Fair.

I love Tim McGraw.

But I think I love some of Kenny's slow jams more than I love anything of Tim McGraw's.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

And when you go song by song, because we're doing from the top, we're weighing chart success, lasting popularity, and signature song status.

So there is a formula here.

And so this is not an order that I pick for songs to go against each other.

I put in the criteria and it was matched for me.

I like it.

So 10 songs. Let's give it a rip. Number one from Tim McGraw. Live like you were dying.

Oh my God.

From Kenny Chesney. That's the good stuff.

Okay.

Wow.

That one didn't even compare. I don't think I want to go to McGraw. Live like you were dying.

Brandon live like you were dying. That's not my favorite song. Live like you were dying. I'm going to go the good stuff.

Even though I know it's in vain because I can't win because you guys I would go the good stuff I like that so one point Tim McGraw round two let's go Tim McGraw it's your love so good Kenny Chesney there.

Goes my life.

Yeah.

Oh, that's tough. Brandon, you go first this time. It's Your Love.

Wow, okay.

There Goes My Life, Kenny Chesney.

So I'm the tiebreaker? Mm-hmm. It's Your Love. God, with faith. And it's so believable because it's them too, you know?

She's pregnant in the video.

She's pregnant.

I'm not trying to convince you because I didn't pick that song.

They're really in love, so I feel like they're telling the truth when they're singing it. But then Kenny's singing, there goes my life. I'm going Kenny. Nice. Kenny Chesney. Nice.

I was going to ask if I could recant.

You can't.

Okay. Once you say it, it's out there. You're right. Tim McGraw, Don't Take the Girl.

Oh, my gosh. This is the best of all of them.

Kenny Chesney, You and Tequila. I'll go first. You and Tequila is one of my favorite songs of all time.

Yes.

It's a top 10, top 15 all-timer. I've not made the full list. That song with Grace Potter is country music excellence. I do love Don't Take the Girl. As a kid listening on Kiss of 96, that song would come on. I'd be like, that song's so deep. You got to listen to this. It's without a doubt, though, You and Tequila.

Yeah.

They're both monsters, but it's you and tequila.

You've been saying that for years. Like your best duets, like of, yes. So I believe you. Man, you know, I love you and tequila. But I remember this time when my dad, I was probably, I don't know when this came out.

94.

Okay, 94. Do you know that for a fact out of your own heart and brain? I'm 99% sure.

You're talking about Don't Take the Girl?

Don't Take the Girl.

So my dad walks in. Fact check.

94.

Okay, good. My dad walks in. He's got tears in his eyes. I'm like, Dad, you okay? My dad didn't cry. He wasn't a crier. Public crier. He's like, I just heard one of the best songs ever on the radio. I was like, which one? Don't worry, be happy? What are you talking about? He's like, Don't Take the Girl.

I think it was called. He told the whole story. I'm like, I got to listen to this. Don't Take the Girl, man. I love that song.

Brandon? Brandon?

It's what made me fall in love with country music, Don't Take the Girl.

Wow, my favorite song of all time. Doesn't win.

Sorry.

Two to one, Tim McGraw takes the lead. Tim McGraw, Something Like That, Kenny Chesney, When the Sun Goes Down.

Eddie, you're up.

The only reason I'm going to pick Tim McGraw, Something Like That, is because that is my favorite Tim McGraw song ever.

It is?

Yeah, ever. I love it.

The barbecue.

It was Labor Day weekend. I was 17. Yes, dude. And then even years later, he's on the southbound plane down to New Orleans. Yeah.

Huh.

Barbecue stain and a white t-shirt?

That's my favorite Tim McGraw song, so I have to go with something like that.

Brandon?

Something like that.

Yes! Come on, dude. Unanimous.

Something like that.

Yes!

I'm just not a big fan of Beach Kenny.

Oh, that's a good Kenny.

To most people.

Yeah.

Next up, round five, Humble and Kind from Tim McGraw or Kenny Chesney, Somewhere With You.

Speaker 3:

Speaker 1: Speaker 1: Speaker 1:

Speaker 3: Speaker 3: Speaker 3:

My name is Kenny. And everyone's like, what the? All right.

Humble and kind versus somewhere with you.

Brandon.

Oh, you're going to do me first? Well, we're going in order. All right. You know what? I'm going to go somewhere with you. I'm for sure going somewhere with you.

You know what? I'll give it to Tim then. Humble and kind.

Don't do it because of our vote.

No, no, no. I know, but I was on the fence, you know, because I can do both. Not my favorite Tim song. Not my favorite Kenny song.

I like Somewhere With You, but I like Emo Kenny.

Do you like his version or do you like the, my name is Ken?

I'm really, really growing fond of my name is Ken. Also, Somewhere With You was something Kenny had never really done. Like the rap, the rapping pop sound. Like he's, yeah, he's, he's either beach or he's classic country, you know?

Interesting. All right. Three to two Tim's in the lead round six to my girl. I like it.

I love it.

Kenny Chesney, American kids.

It's me first.

I'm going American kids.

That's a good one.

Really good.

I don't feel like that's a beach Kenny. I feel like that's just straightforward. I'll make a good song. Makes you feel good.

Kenny.

Yeah.

It's just America. No beach.

You know what? Emo Kenny first. America Kenny second.

And then beach.

Beach Kenny third.

Yeah, yeah. Smart. And then it was Tim's which one?

I like it.

I love it.

Oh, yeah.

I got to go. I like it. I love it. Dude, he hadn't seen a Braves game all year because he was in love. Right?

I like the guitar part. And the crowd beginning.

Yeah.

I'm not a lover of that song generally.

I do like it. We'll play it in the dance party sometime.

But I don't think anyone can, like, walk this earth and say, I like it, without someone being like, I love it. I want some more of it.

That was also a cheer.

Oh, it was?

Yeah.

Oh, so he stole it? No, way back in the day, it'd be, I like it.

I love it. I want some more of it. Now I'm singing the song. Are you sure they weren't doing Kenny?

No, this is when I was in high school.

Okay.

So although it could have been that.

It could have been. What's the year on I Like It, I Love It? 95. That's high school, dude.

I'll take a look.

Hold on.

Was there a cheer? When did it originate? From cheerleaders that said, I like it, I love it. Let's see.

It's got to be after the song. Or else Tim would probably have to credit the cheerleader association or something.

They have to credit Mount Pine 8th graders. Mount Pine 8th grade cheer team. Okay, it gives me nothing here, so I could be wrong. Brandon, do you have I Like It, I Love It or American Kids?

It was the soundtrack to me and my brothers roller skating in our driveway.

I Like It, I Love It.

That's a little unfair matchup because I Like It, I Love It has some nostalgia attached to it where American Kids is new.

Yes, I think that was my problem with it. It's too new.

Okay.

Well, my child life was terrible, so maybe that's why I don't like it.

You like all the new stuff.

Yeah, it brings back too much hurt.

It takes you to a terrible time. I think it's four to two. Tim's got a good lead here.

Let's go, Timmy.

Number seven, Just to See You Smile from Tim McGraw. Just to see you smile. Or Kenny Chesney.

I want to know how forever feels.

Hang tight.

The Bobbycast will be right back. The Bobbycast will be right back. And we're back on the Bobbycast.

Eddie, you're up first.

Dude, this one's so hard. Man. I love Just to See You Smile. The melody to Just to See You Smile. I love that. And the feel of that song. It comes on, man. I just love it. But I remember when Chesney came out and he's like, I want to know how it feels to be Jimmy Buffett. And I'm a huge Jimmy Buffett fan. Made me really love that song.

So let's go Chesney.

Brandon?

Man, this is really tough.

It's really hard.

I'm going to go How Forever Feels.

I'm going to go with How Forever Feels. So what were the three? Forever, Jimmy Buffett, Richard Petty? Richard Petty, yeah. That's awesome.

I love that song. Four to three, McGraw on the lead.

Dang.

From Tim McGraw, my next 30 years. From Kenny Chesney, don't blink.

Dude.

You up?

I'm not sure, but I'll go. I think it's you.

Don't blink. I got to go Chesney, don't blink.

Man, as a father, you got to go Chesney, don't blink.

Don't blink all day. Good one.

What was the Tim one?

My next 30 years.

Yeah.

Written by Phil Vassar.

Oh, cool. Yeah.

Fun fact.

Thank you. I think we're tied at four to four.

Wow.

And dude, you haven't even scraped Beach Kenny.

Right? Okay, here we go.

I'm scared for Tim.

Tim McGraw, Where the Greengrass Grows. That's a good one.

Corn Pop Up and Rose. And Kenny Chesney, Summertime.

That's a bow down and a yoo-hoo. Yoo-hoo. Oh. Summertime. Is it back to me?

Mm-hmm.

I'm going to go with Tim McGraw, Greengrass Grows.

Brandon, over to you for the Greengrass Grows versus Summertime. Summertime is such a banger.

I mean, just a yoo-hoo. Is Summertime Beach Kenny?

Yeah.

Okay.

Even though they're not at the beach. But when do you go to the beach?

Summertime. Exactly.

Got it.

Got me. You got me.

Good.

Let's go Kenny Chesney summertime. Oh, you don't like beach, Kenny, dude.

You can't do this.

I know, but I also don't really care so much for where the green grass grows.

Where corn pops up in rows.

I'm going to go. Where the green grass grows.

Yeah.

Only because you don't like Beach Kenny. I don't dislike Beach Kenny. Of the three though, emo, American, beach. I feel like summertime could be under the American Kenny. I just don't relate to people that go to the beach and like the beach. I just don't have a romantic. That's me.

I know, but I don't have a romantic version or vision of the beach. So it's not even that I don't like the songs. For a lot of people, those songs make them feel Like they're at the beach.

Remind them of being at the beach. Remind them of summertime. I don't like that.

True.

Write a good song about Wi-Fi, Kenny. Being inside.

And then there's Wi-Fi, Kenny. Yeah, with the air on 68. You got Netflix on.

You got good Wi-Fi.

It's dark in my bedroom. Yeah, let's go.

I think McGraw takes the lead 5-4 going into the 10th. Gosh, how are these so tight?

That's crazy.

At number 10, final, from Tim McGraw, Indian Outlaw.

Oh.

From Kenny Chesney. She thinks my tractor's sexy.

Oh. Two equally shoving along. It's a strong round. Hot summer sun.

Brandon, you're up.

I don't remember the score. I don't need to know the score right now. Yeah, don't worry about the score. I know somebody's up 5-4 because we've done nine. It's you versus you.

Yeah. This might be the hardest one.

This is really hard.

This is tough. Brandon, you're up. I'm going to go Indian Outlaw.

I'm going to go Indian Outlaw. So here's my ranking. Emo Kenny, American Kenny, Beach Kenny, Tractor Kenny.

There is Tractor. Could it just be Farmer Kenny?

The very beginning era. That's Tractor, Farmer, Kenny.

That's true.

That's the four stages of Kenny.

Wow.

If I'm rating them in order.

It doesn't even matter what I pick now. You guys got Indian Outlaw. So I'll just make it unanimous. Indian Outlaw.

All right.

But Tractor Kenny was cool. I didn't really catch Tractor Kenny. I don't dislike Tractor Kenny.

I just wasn't. I think I was working when Tractor Kenny was blowing up.

What do you mean you were working?

Like in music, but not country at the time.

Got it. Not at the golf course.

Because I grew up all.

Listening to country music. But then once I got into radio and I was doing.

Pop and hip hop. That's what you're listening to at that time. Yeah, I was always in it. That's a good point.

I'm still laughing about Kid Rock Kenny. Oh, we forgot about that. Emo Kenny, Kid Rock Kenny, American Kenny, Beach Kenny, Farmer Kenny. That's the five stages of Kenny Chesney.

That's a lot of Kenny.

Mike, what's the score?

Did they tie it up?

I think it's 6-4. Yeah, it's 6-4.

6-4.

Let me look in the camera so we can get a solid clip out of this one.

Come on. All right.

With a victory of 6-4, your winner, although very close... Tim McGraw.

Yeah, Timmy! Congratulations, Tim.

You like those? Those are fun, huh?

Oh, I love playing that. And you don't realize, because I'm telling you, I'm going into this thinking like, I'm never going to pick a Chesney song. I love Tim McGraw. He's one of my favorite artists of all time. And then you compare these songs. They go head-to-head like that. It's hard to pick.

Dude, the comments are going to be crazy.

And people are going to be so sure of themselves on who's the greatest. There is no way, buddy, for sure who the greatest is.

All right, let's do one existential question.

Oh, yes. Let's get deep. Maybe two. Okay.

And I'll go first because you guys do not know these questions. So you have to think about it while I'm answering. What universally loved song could you happily go the rest of your life without hearing again? So it's a song that pretty much everybody knows, everybody loves. But for some reason, you're good. Think about that, I will give my answer. Mine is going to be Don't Stop Believin' by Journey.

Oh, you're crazy.

It's a great song. I've heard it enough for several lifetimes.

And I guess you don't go to the bars a lot.

And at this point, hearing it now, feels like somebody telling me the wedding reception has another 45 minutes.

That's so true. It's a good song. But I think of it in the terms of wedding receptions, bars.

The end of the night.

Maybe classic rock radio. That's it.

So that is a universally loved song that I still like, but I'm okay if it gets removed from all playlists everywhere.

But even if it comes on, like... Too long.

It's eight minutes of.

Yeah.

Gosh, I love the sound of that song. I feel like if that song comes on, I just smile. Because I haven't been at a bar at 2 a.m. in a long, long, long time.

They should radio edit that.

Middle part out, and then they should also radio edit out the beginning of November Rain, all seven minutes of that.

Oh, that intro long. Yeah, yeah, you're right. They should. I wonder why they don't.

Because it's such the fabric of what that song is. It was such a different song from Guns N' Roses to do. It's such a piano-based all through. Even when, and I still remember, the piano's playing.

Dude, that intro was so long. But the video was cool.

Yeah.

Okay, what universally loved song could you happily go the rest of your life without hearing again?

Do you have an answer?

I do have one.

What is it?

You guys aren't going to like this one. It's I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston.

Why would you think we wouldn't like that? I really don't have an opinion, but why would we not like that?

Well, because that's a song that everybody loves. Everybody loves that song. But I'm fine with it either way. But I'm taking it away from you. You're never going to hear it again. But I'm not emotionally attached that I'm so sad about it. Like I was kind of sad that you took Don't Stop Believing away. Because like say you're like the president, right? And you say, no more Don't Stop Believing ever to be played in any speaker in the world. That would make me sad to never hear Don't Stop Believing. If you said as president, no more, I will always love you.

Yes.

I would go, I wasn't listening anyway. But like, I guess my wife, my wife, literally, she'll be like, turn that up. I love this.

I'm like, that was the first version of the song that I knew.

Yes.

As much as I love Dolly and now love that version of it. I knew Whitney Houston, the bodyguard, that song on like top 40 radio before I knew the Dolly version.

Yeah.

So I think that's a good one. But would you kill the whole song? Kill Dolly's too.

Oh, I can't.

Dolly has to go to the song. Oh, dang, I didn't realize that.

That and all versions of it. I just made that rule up. Dude, Dolly's version's really good. Yeah, kill it. Okay, let's get rid of it.

Brandon, what universally loved song could you go the rest of your life without hearing?

All right.

I think you guys might agree with this, and this only comes from my years of, like, playing in cover bands and all this kind of stuff. I could totally go my whole life without hearing Sweet Home Alabama again.

Good one.

Huh.

Also, I.

Really associate that with getting my brains kicked in in Tuscaloosa, Arkansas, Alabama.

Oh, right.

I do associate that with that, so there's a little negativity there for me. But that song is played everywhere, and people are like, oh, let's go, turn it up. Mostly because he goes, turn it up. He does say, turn it up.

Turn it up.

That's a good one.

Yeah, I like that.

I like that one. Okay. Question number two.

Which cover song is so good that you almost never need to hear the original again? What cover song is so good that you never need to hear the original again?

I have two answers.

I will not give my second in case one of you guys have it. I don't want to hog if you don't because I have two that were very close. But I'm going to go with Nothing Compares to You, Sinead O'Connor. It was originally a Prince song.

Oh, I didn't realize that. Okay. He wrote it and he recorded it. He may have even recorded it later because the family, I think, recorded it first.

Well, Eddie doesn't like Prince, so.

True. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got rid of Prince, too. If I remember correctly, Prince wrote it. The family recorded it. Sinead O'Connor did a cover of it. Prince later recorded it after to have his version of it. But she makes that song sound so personal that it feels like she wrote that song. It's been seven hours and it's great.

Dude, it's been a while since I've heard that song. I mean, I know how it goes.

You took my love away. It's amazing.

Okay, okay.

So that's going to be mine. That's the cover that I think is better. If either one of you two have your answer, feel free.

Do you have yours, Brandon?

Yeah, I think so.

Go ahead. I have a few. But you pick one. Got to pick one. What? Got to pick one.

About Hallelujah by Jeff Buckley. Oh, that's so good. Over Leonard Cohen. And I get Leonard Cohen. Cool.

Right.

But I don't get Leonard Cohen.

Yeah, yeah.

He talks a lot, right? He sings to me. There's going to be Cohen heads out there.

I made that up.

Cohen heads.

There's going to be Cohen heads out there that get mad at this. But to me, it's almost like a William Shatner type situation when he performs.

Yes. I think that's so accurate.

Yes.

But I'm not a Cohen head.

You're not. You've said this many times. You're not a Cohen head.

Okay. Cohen head. Beach Kenny. Kid Rock Kenny. I think that's a great one. That's a really good one.

By the way, that's the version I knew. Which is the one on Shrek? That's not Buckley, I don't think.

I've never seen Shrek.

You've never seen Shrek? I don't think so. Put that on your list.

I know Smash Mouth from Shrek. I know Smash Mouth did Shrek. Trust me, I know Smash Mouth more than just Shrek, okay?

I love music. I love it. I don't know Counting Crows from Shrek, but I don't know. What version? It was Rufus Wainwright.

Oh, wow.

That dude's awesome.

He's great.

Okay, Eddie. What cover song is so good?

I've thought long and hard about this.

And it looks like a minute, 19 seconds.

And the best thing I could come up with is I'm going to go with Van Halen, Pretty Woman.

You think that one's way better.

Than Roy Orbison? Really? Yeah, dude.

I'm just going to credit this to not giving you enough time.

Yeah. No, that's a good one. I love Van Halen's version of Pretty Woman. But if you had more time, even another three minutes, I think you'd change your mind. I think what got me was I saw a TikTok recently of David Lee Roth singing it, like acapella on his phone.

I thought you were going to say, I will always love you again.

No, I thought about doing that, but that wouldn't make sense to my last take.

Right.

It's not, what are you talking about?

What song is that?

Cause I did think like, you know, um, any of the, like Jimi Hendrix all on the watchtower. Oh, good ones. Like Bob, I love Bob Dylan's version, but I mean, yeah.

Uh, the other one that I had is Tennessee whiskey.

Oh, that's really good.

So originally David Allen co. George Jones did it too. But Stapleton, although he doesn't officially, he owns that song, especially to our generation.

What about Crazy Patsy Cline? Well, did Willie cut it? Yeah, he cut it.

I don't know it well enough. I've heard him sing it, thinking back now. Crazy. It's a little Coen-y.

A little bit.

Crazy.

Willie had Coen Willie.

That's a good one. What about a... Man of the World. Nirvana over David Bowie? Yeah.

David Bowie?

Yeah. I'm just a Nirvana fan. I missed the Bowie train. It was before me. Same here, yeah. Never knew it.

So I have to go Nirvana because it's one of my favorite records ever. That Unplugged live in New York. That's... I didn't even know the Meat Puppets until Nirvana did the Meat Puppets song on that album. Them doing those covers on that record put me onto a lot of bands when I was 16 years old.

They do a lot of covers on that one.

They did a few. They did the man who sold the world. I want to be right about this. They did. Who sings?

Oh, I think Dolly did a cover of in the pines, in the pines where.

The sun don't ever shine. Yeah. She did it after.

Yeah.

Let me get this right.

Because covers from Nirvana unplugged.

Let's see what we got here. Jesus Don't Want Me for a Sunbeam. I loved that song. What's the original on that one?

Vaseline's. And I like the Nirvana version better, but of course I like Nirvana.

Jesus don't want me for a sunbeam. It was awesome.

The Man Who Sold the World, David Bowie. Plateau, which was Meat Puppets. Oh Me, which is Meat Puppets. Lake of Fire, which was written by Meat Puppets.

Huh. And then Where'd You Sleep Last Night, which is a blues song. Did you sleep last night?

That's what I'm singing, right?

No.

Oh, was I singing Lake of Fire?

Yeah. Yeah, you weren't singing that one.

In the pines, in the pines.

Oh, yeah, you were singing that.

Okay.

So they did six covers on that album? That's crazy.

See, Dolly did a cover that Nirvana did, and it was really good, and it was In the Pines, Where'd You Sleep Last Night? It's really good, and she did it, I believe, And the version I saw was 1994. So Nirvana did it in 93. She did it in 94. She had played it way earlier, too. But it, I mean, it sounded like her song, like an East Tennessee song. Wow, that's amazing.

What about the song that really connected you and your grandma? Was it Hard to Handle?

Mm-hmm.

Sure was, Black Crows.

There you go.

Hey, little mom, won't you touch my belly now? Because, mama, I got a belly belly now.

Now, now, now, now, now, now.

Mm-hmm.

Big one.

Yeah.

Was that Old Shredding? Yeah. Oh, that's really good. Yeah, I didn't think.

That's a live voter-shorting album where he sings that, and you can hear the sweat.

Oh, yeah?

Hit the microphone? It shorts it out?

He's just going so hard. And it's a live album.

He's like, oh, okay, just right here, just right here, just right here.

It's a great album.

You know which other one?

He also does Respect on that record.

That's right. Otis Redding does respect. That's another good cover. Because I believe it's Otis Redding's song. Oh, Aretha covered it? Yeah.

Oh, I didn't even know that. So that would be great to pick. Because his is like when he gets home, he expects you to have sex with him.

Dang.

Wow.

He must respect me. I'm pretty sure. That's not Aretha's take.

It is not.

She's like, uh-uh. But the other side of that. What were you going to say? Oh, I was also thinking of Can't Help Falling in Love, Elvis. You'd be 40. UB40 dominated that. That's what I think, dude. That was so good.

I'm kidding.

Otis Redding's 1965 recording of Respect. It's about a working man's plea to his partner for loyalty and appreciation when he comes home.

Now, by appreciation.

That's what he meant.

I think I assumed it was a little more than that. Aretha changed that arrangement.

Yeah, for sure. Obviously.

Yes.

Okay.

So in this episode, Garth and George, either is fine. We're not going to be mad at you. Just relax, guys.

Relax. Kenny and Tim. Tim wins, but it was close.

And then the songs that we think the cover is so good, we don't need the original.

So thank you guys for watching. We hope you've enjoyed it. I'm on Instagram. If you want to leave a mean comment, Mr. Bobby Bones, I'd prefer you not.

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I want to share a clip with you from movie Mike's movie podcast. He had Josh Holloway on the actor. You would know him from being Sawyer on lost. He was also on season three and four of Yellowstone. They talked about lost him getting started in acting and his new Western movie. And if you like this, I encourage you to go subscribe to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast and hit it up.

All right, thanks.

Josh, how did you grow up?

I grew up in the 70s, bro. They didn't have chairs like this.

What was a movie theater like? Like the first theater you went to, what was it like?

Well, it was the Dollar Theater. Actually, the first one I really remember was Star Wars. You went to Star Wars? I went to Star Wars when Star Wars was in the theaters. I was like seven years old. Three brothers, or two brothers at the time. And we walked in there, not knowing anything about it, and walked out with our jaws on the ground. Like, that was a cinematic experience. Like, unforgettable.

Star Wars?

How did that change your trajectory? Did you watch Star Wars and think, I want to do that? Or did you just see that and think, like, that was awesome?

No, I... I wanted to be Luke Skywalker and Han Solo and all of them. Are you kidding me? Not for real. I just thought, you know, like a normal child.

No.

Did I want to be an actor at that point? No. But did I want to be Luke Skywalker? Yes.

Everybody wanted to be Luke Skywalker. So when did it start for you? Cause I know you got started in modeling, but when did you decide I want to be an actor?

Strangely, I kind of just fell through the cracks. I did. I, I was a model for years, and then I had opened a development company in Georgia, so we were building houses. But I was living in New York, so it was all on the phone and fax. Remember fax?

I don't remember fax. I know it from movies.

Anyway, that was no fun because it was just all paperwork and phone. And then I opened a restaurant in Los Angeles. It was huge for a year and crashed like everything in Los Angeles.

Restaurant stuff business.

Yeah.

And then I was thinking, well, might not try acting. I've always wanted to do it and just been afraid to try it. So I went to this four-day intensive. And it was with this acting coach named Corey Allen, who happened to be Buzz in Rebel Without a Cause, opposite James Dean. He was the main antagonist in Rebel Without a Cause.

What was your first big yes?

Lost.

Lost. That's a big yes.

That was the big one. My first time on film was with Alicia Silverstone in the crying video.

I saw that.

That was the first time.

You were like a criminal in that arrest.

Sold her back. Terrible. That was like foreshadowing of all my characters. You know, flirt with a girl, con them. No. But that and then... I did Walker, Texas Ranger with Chuck, with the original Chuck Norris. It was fantastic.

So you're on loss and I think that's a good segue into this because the movie, you actually bought the movie rights to Flint when you were working on Lost, right?

Well, I didn't buy the rights. I approached Beau Lamour, and we talked about it, and he was like, not yet. You're not old enough. I was like, bro, gray my beard. You know, we can make it work. And so we started our relationship then.

20 years ago.

20 years ago. And we started a development process then. And then I had another series that took me out of country and it just kind of went away. And then we came back to it. So I've been touching base with Mo, I mean, Bo L'Amour for 20 years. And then finally he called me. He's like, I have a writer. I want to do this. trust in it.

And then I helped him get his father's entire library represented through UTA. So we put things in motion.

So tell me about this book, because you read this book.

Yes.

And you were so just enamored with this book that you decided like, I need to make this, I need to be a part of this. What was it about this book that has you here right now about a walk into the premiere?

I've read a lot of books, read a lot of Westerns, and Louis L'Amour is like these quickies that you can just knock three days and you're like, boom, boom, boom.

I'm not a huge reader. I'm reading this right now because I watched the movie.

I love it.

I'm like, I got to read the book. It's amazing. And he has such a library. So it was just something I read. It stuck with me. Like, this is a movie. It writes itself. And we really attempted to do this true to the book in the Southwest, in the Malpas. That's a national park you can't get to. Without helicopters.

Can you get to the part where that?

Well, that part where the hideout was.

Got it.

You're not allowed to do that. So we had to pivot and adapt the story to Montana.

Which looks beautiful.

Which is amazing and beautiful. But luckily, our writers and everyone were agile enough to do that. And Bo agreed. Yes, it's a different setting, but we kept this true to the story as we could. So that's why it's in Montana. We couldn't get there. They wouldn't allow it.

But it looks so good. Like I'm watching just the, even the opening scene, like the train scene, like pulling in on that. It looks fantastic.

It's fantastic.

But I imagine that has to be a beast to film, to go somewhere like Montana, be out in the wilderness. But what I love about it is like, you feel the setting in it. So what was the filming process being out there?

It was the best job I ever had. Are you kidding me? It's Montana. Like you said, I mean, everywhere you look is a picture in cinematics. So just the scale of the scenery was a character in itself. And the crew were incredible. They were all Montana, like, roll up your sleeves. Let's do this for the fun of it.

And we called it the Flint Sprint. We were like 25 days of real independent movie filming, like indie. But with that spirit. So it was truly one of the most magical experiences I've had in filmmaking. Everyone was in it for the love of doing it.

Do you feel like independent filmmaking is kind of having a moment right now? Where it's kind of cool again.

It's had a moment a long time since Sundance. It's just those moments have changed drastically. So yes, kind of the definition of more of a true independent is back. Not the multi-million dollar.

That looks like an independent, but it's like not really an independent.

Not really an independent, backed by lots of money. The true ones are coming back, you know, that are really driven by the creatives and the artistic process without a lot of money.

Do you feel like your experience in those 20 years waiting for this movie to be made has allowed you to play Flint better? Like if you would have made it 20 years ago, do you think it would have been a much different movie? Do you kind of like, Okay, it did take a long time, but it feels like this was... Yes, it was correct.

And life, as long as you're living true to yourself, life redirects you and you find that things work the way they're supposed to. So, yes, I was definitely not ready. And now I've had children. Now I've gone through an entire career. I've become the age that this character was supposed to be. And it has a different weight. It just has a different weight.

You did a lot of your own stunts in the movie.

Yes.

How demanding is that physically? Like, how do you have to prepare for that?

You stay prepared. You just do it. You just do it. Yes. But it was so much fun, actually. What I did with this one, because it's a Western, I came here two weeks earlier. I went to kind of what I call cowboy camp. And I grew up riding my whole life and kind of growing up. Being a cowboy, but to actually learn the skills was so much fun and tough.

I had saddle sores, like couldn't, could barely walk. You're learning these big weapons. First time I cocked that big rifle, I broke my pinky. And they're like, use all your fingers, not just your pinky. I'm like, oh, you know, you have to learn these ancient weapons. They're different than the modern.

So that was a lot of fun. And such a journey.

What's the most useful skill you've learned that you had maybe learned for a role that maybe now you like use it in everyday life or it's just like wow I can't believe I learned that. Is it like dealing with weapons? Is it something else?

So many. Actually the latest one and I can't use it anymore I'm so mad. I was my series Duster on HBO was I was a wheel man for the mafia so I went to stunt school so I can parallel park at full speed. I can put the License plate right in the camera.

Oh, I'm terrible at penalty parking.

I can do all of that, like all those crazy stunts you see. I can do all those slings and it's bomb.

I feel like that's the best skill to learn. I got to go.

That's fun to do.

Lost this week, 22 years ago it premiered. I'm sure you've been tagged in stuff like crazy. When you see all that stuff popping up in your feed, what's the first thing that comes to your mind? Like, is it a great memory?

Is it just like... It's, like, unbelievable. Really? People still are watching this? It still has legs? It's shocking, but it's... I feel proud of it. When it comes up, I'm still proud of it. I've always been proud of it, but it's not something I think about all the time, and I don't tag anything because I am not on...

My wife does all the social media stuff. She helps me. I'm just not in the tech world. So I hear about this from you guys and my wife.

So we're still like, these things are going on. Still debating the finale, all that stuff.

So I'm like, really?

So I'm a little removed from that, but it's fantastic.

Josh, this has been great.

All the best.

Good luck with the film.

Thank you. Appreciate it, brother.

Thank you.

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