Gilmore Girls Gazette: Parenthood: Are You Team Mark or Team Hank (Season 4 E9 & E10)

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Y'll more girls Gazette with Amy Sugarman and Danielle Romo, an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to a special episode of Parenthood, and I'm sorry to be the one starting it off because Daniellelle is not here today because she had a kid thing, and so Jackie and I are here to chit chat about our latest two episodes of Parenthood, which I will tell you quickly are episode nine and ten of season four. They are you Can't Always Get what You Want and Trouble in Candyland. Good episodes. Both good episodes, don't you think?

Yes? And might I add this week, we've had a lot of schedule stuff, so this is the third episode I'm on this week. Phelated for somebody.

Oh my god. First of all, that's amazing because you did Gazette, right.

Gazette, I did for Tara because she's in derry duty. I did tell me, Okay, I love it.

So yeah, everybody's scrawled back and you can just hear the Jackie Show all week. So there's a lot to talk about. But my first question for you is are you team Hank or are you team Mark?

I'm team Mark. I know that there's chemistry with Hank looks so funny, but I feel bad for Mark. I'm like a super empathetic person.

Here's the thing. When I watched this the first time, I was team Mark. Yeah, and it's so weird to say. However, many years later, when was this on what year? Let's see, this was on twenty twelve. Yep, so now it's twenty twenty six. I can't do the math. I'm going to give that as fourteen years. Yes, I have totally switched to team Hank. It's super weird. I think it's just because my age. I'm like, oh, I think I just get them better, Like the whole thing feels better. I feel like I thought a lot about why did she want to go with Hank to La.

And then Mark explained it at the end.

What did he say explain?

Remind me because at the end when he breaks up with her at the end of episode ten, he says, you have these good things and you tend to ruin it. It's like, you know, she's very going after the wounded soldier, you know what I mean?

I get that. I totally get that, and I think he's right. I think he's right. But I also think she's drawn to Hank and she knows it because I thought about it a lot, like, first of all, it was a work thing, and this job is important to her, and she's never had a job that's like a career, right, She's been the bartender blah blah blah, So this is actually a career and it's important. And I know that if somebody asked me, hey, you have this work thing, even if I was supposed to go to a wedding with my boyfriend, I would be like, I gotta figure out how to do both. I've got to do this work thing too, you know what I mean, Like, sure, there's times when you can say I can't do it.

I think she's also so drawn to him for a million reasons that it's why it's pulling her, which is what makes me this time realize she should be with Hank. He is the right one for her. Before I actually thought maybe it was Mark, and now I'm like, no, it's Hank. And I actually started to do some like you know, cheating, and I looked ahead at some of the clips of Hank on TikTok and it's like this round, I really see why Hank is the right one.

I have to tell you something to do.

You do it too.

I cheated with Hank, and I know what happens.

And I'm like, oh, I know. Have you not watched this before? No, I have not seen you and Danielle are on your first round? No, I like went to the Hank edits on TikTok because Hank is cool. Ray Ramondo is never been hotter than he is in this show.

Yeah, he's got that, Like there's something cool about hiving and something about their chemistry. So I do see it. I do know, I do recognize and acknowledge.

It was still a painful breakup, and I was desperately trying to figure out what restaurant they were at. What restaurant were they at when they break up?

Was it the Yama Mode? No, that's in La.

Oh, but did you know they're filming in La because remember they're on the trip to La, so it's something you know in La. But it was cringey and painful when she comes stumbling down the hallway and he's waiting for her at the door. Now, I do question how would he would know what her room number was? Because no hotel is giving that out unless she was like, I mean, maybe she told him I'm in room twenty seventeen or whatever, but that was I was like, but it was cringy and oh and then the elevator scene.

Oh yeah, I was afraid he was going to say something about kissing her, remember I was. That's what I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm glad he didn't because if we both thought that, it's kind of a clever move on it to not do that.

Yeah, where Hank kind of is protective of it too. It's you know, because he loves her.

And then I can't remember how long it is before now she and Hank like hook up. How about the famous lady who I can't name playing the mother? She st recognizable playing, Yes, she's on a lot of things Breaking Bad.

Yeah, she was the she was Hank's actually, oh that's she was Hank. Hank's wife, wasn't she in this?

She's Hank's wife.

No, but in Breaking Bad, remember she.

Was the main guy's wife known the brother in law's wife. I never watched Always More.

Purple and his name was Hank the d oh the way.

Oh that's weird. I never watched that.

Yeah, oh, it's so good.

She's cool and we're not done with her. She's gonna have she comes around again. Yeah. So yeah, I mean that was my lead storyline of the two episodes. I definitely was into their whole thing. There's some sort of awkward things again with Drew and Sarah and Mark and that all that just a little bit. It's nice that Drew's back with Amy, although we don't really see them much.

I think we're just to assume they're fine. So let's go back to Max doesn't want the dance.

Yeah.

It's rough for me to watch because he's so like, no dance, you know, with the room and you're like, oh no, just do what the other kids want. Ah, But then you get the whole storyline about Christina really wanting him to go to the dance. You know, she's she's worried about her health. She dances with Max, although she did him dirty on the dancing. That's not how you dance, yeah, because it's like this, you don't put two arms up.

And you don't try lock you're.

Going well also, but she goes you put your arm on my shoulder and I put my arm on your shoulder. You don't.

Yeah, it's like as if you put both arms on the shoulders and the hits.

And the waist, right, I'm like, yeah, what so, I'm not sure she taught him the best dancing, but she did teach him how to go ask a girl to dance, and that was I'm cute. Yeah, that whole thing was cute. And she was smoking pot and when Julia came over for advice and then that's how we learned, they just bribe him and that was funny.

Yeah, she was like, here's the candy.

Yeah, that was all good, funny, good storylines Joel and Julia. Yes, I'm concerned and we should be.

So, oh, I don't cheat on that part.

I won't ruin it for you. But okay, look, of course Jewels should be able to work jo and you know she comes around also, Oh then you know Amber's boyfriend breaking the glass. It's like, oh god, there's so many stressful things about that whole thing. Yeah, I feel for Julia, but also I don't.

Yeah, she should have been so like, oh, you're going back. I feel like, Ego, you.

Committed to the parenting, and it's like this guy's been committed to the parenting the whole time.

Yeah, and I feel like, you know, the episode before she mentioned that like staying at home doesn't fulfill her as like working.

She needs to get back to work.

Yeah, exactly, it was possibly like and both.

Those kids are in school all day.

They could figure this out that that part was like creeping into this episode because she wasn't feeling fulfilled and she's putting her insecurities on.

Joel also was happy that Victor didn't get an A on the test because no kid's gonna like do that, so it's not realistic. But I did really like her going in and the explanation. Now, my one sort of thing is they've gone from zero to one hundred with Victor, and I think that's sort of the problem, Like he needs some transition for this kid, Like this kid's mom went to prison. Yes he's been, he's not young, he's lived with in this tumultuous situation. You can't just be like I'm your mom, this is your dad. They haven't even adopted. I mean, the whole thing is like very confusing.

So that's a little.

I'm with you on that. Every time since you've mentioned that to Danielle, every time I see it, they're like I love you or call me mom. I'm just like right so soon totally.

And the kid is obviously like, what kid is going to be able to do that? No kid exactly. So that's a little funny in the storyline, but maybe intentional. I don't know, you know, so that one, you know, I'm in do it the whole thing I'm into. Oh my god. How about Pamela Adlin.

Oh I recognized her right away. I was like, of cours, perfect fit for her.

Let me give you the best trivia ever about Pamela Adlin. So, Pamela Adlin is becoming quite a famous actor right She's had her own show. She's like very well known. I think she's like not award nominated. So she is the neighbor to the Luncheonet, which also is weird because the Luncheonet feels very hate ashbury ish, and her condo looks like it's five million dollars, so it's like very very and also you knew that you were buying a condo right next to this. But I did love the courtroom scene where they all come in. But let me give you a little fun fact about Pamela Adlin Grease too.

She is in Grease too. Oh so you know how the Pink Ladies, there's the little sister of one of them in Greece two, not Greece one. Oh my god. So there's sort of a younger sister in Greece two of the Pink Ladies, and it is played by Pamela Adlon.

Well, I'll give you another like fun trivia fact. Her daughter, right was in mar Yeah, that.

One, Marty Supreme, Marty Supreme, Yes, with the guy that everyone loves shall no way. Yeah, her real life daughter.

Her real life daughter is in Marty Supreme. Oh my god. Okay has a different last name.

Oh right, because Pamela Adlin's probably the dad's last name or something.

Yeah, Odessa, Odessa.

Oh yeah, what's your last name?

A Zion? Oh yeah, good stuff.

Good stuff. So I did like when they when all the neighbors come in and I'm glad we won and we'd have to deal with this. It went on a little long, I would say it did.

It did like I was like, we get it.

I think too, but it was like we get it, blab. You don't like the neighbor situation. They're smoking, but I don't understand why they would be parking in her parking place. That was weird to me too. I'm like, yeah, I don't think they're not parking in your condo. Like that was weird. The smoking and the like loud and the peeing. Fine, but like I'm like, what are we towing cars for?

Maybe they were trying to like portray like cause I'm in San Francisco. I know there's like the new San Francisco. They're redoing all these houses, taking over these like you know, expence or taking over these Victorian houses and all, and they're making them like blocks basically, and then you have like the historic stuff like the luncheon Nette. Maybe they're trying to portray that San Francisco.

Yeah, sure, fine, Sure it just dragged. Yeah it was good. Also, there's no way they're gonna get into court that fast.

Yeah that's so true.

Like literally you'd be in court seven months a year later, never two days later. So that was a little bit like really, all right, let's talk about Ryan and Amber and we're worried, right, Yeah, yes, all.

The pills that he's taking, it's just sad and Ambers like tells him I love him.

I'm not as crazy about her pink streak and her hair.

Yeah, well I had hair, so I kind of like, I mean.

It's all fine. I just think I liked it. I liked it before. Somehow her hair got longer real fast, Like I don't know how that happened. She's sweet. I loved the scene with her and Craig t Nelson that was like, craigtie Nelson is like brilliant in this show. He is, He's so good, amazing. The acting is amazing in this show. I did. I was watching it with a friend and I remember like pausing it and saying, the actors are like amazing in this show. I shed some tears during it, just because it's like watching how brilliant they all are just makes you emotional.

I think I cry weekly with the show. When I'm doing the.

It gets worse. That's the one thing I do remember. The earlier seasons were a little bit lighter, a little bit more fun. It gets darker as we go very deep right now, Yeah, and it just gets darker. So that was tough, but all I always enjoy it. I'm glad we're doing two at a time. I am kind of one to crank through it because I'm ready for some something fresh, but I definitely like it.

Oh yeah yeah, and Ryan Ryan Matt Lauria is like every time you go screaming, I just kind of tilt my head.

Yeah, I mean, I think the casting is brilliant because Friday Night Lights was cast so well.

It's like, yeah, you know, yeah, they all do a good job. And these are real life stories that you know, somebody in the writer's room has experienced, and so the actors have done a great job bringing that to life. And when we're watching, that's why we connect with it.

And I do forget that she's Lauraai, I really do. I like can embrace and lean in that Lauren is playing someone different. Yeah, and Peter Krausea, I'm not thinking about nine to one one Dax. You know, like they really become these characters. Craigina I have to say, it's Craigtinilsen to me is the he's like the glue or the best part or whatever. He really brings out brilliance.

And May Whitman is just amazing.

I know, I love her. I need to watch more because she's really good. Wait wasn't she in when she was little?

Independence Day?

Okay, there you go.

One Fine Day with George Clooney, One Fine Day with George Clooney, Fine Day. I haven't seen that one, but it's it's so good. Yeah, so I like it. I'm gonna give this a nine. They all get a nine. But like you know, nothing too controversial, nothing too much to discuss, just kind of like okay, good good.

Yeah, moving along. We're seeing, you know, them find their way.

Everybody watch it.

Yeah, it's all good.

It's good anyway. It's look, it's Is it the most compelling podcast we've ever done. No, because the show is just good. But there's not a lot of controversy. There's not a lot of hot takes. It's just as good. I think the biggest hot take is like Hank versus Mark and I'm this round. I'm all for Hank.

Yeah, that's that's interesting that this round you are because you'll see that ye see it differently, so.

Yep, same thing like with a Gilmour Rory's boyfriends. Yeah, you change with time. I don't know how we end this.

Everybody don't forget.

Gilmore Girls Gazette: Parenthood: Are You Team Mark or Team Hank (Season 4 E9 & E10)

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