AI, Gaming & Growth Mindset: Volodymyr Panchenko on Leadership & Business Innovation

0:01 We are live, ladies and gentlemen, you once again welcome to the King James podcast. And today I've got with me my brother from another mother, my brother from the other side of the pond. Ladies and gentlemen, fighting out of Los Angeles, CA, United States of America by way of Kiev, Ukraine Mcwalker near Pantanco. Wow.

0:31 Wow, Wow. Wow, wow. Wow. You just gave me so many emotional memories. I I've had. Thank you so much for this kind introduction. It's a privilege. You are welcome to talk and converse. Yeah. Do you know the drill? Yes. Welcome to the King Dems Podcast, where we share the stories of extraordinary people and dissect hot, relevant topics that shape our world. From visionary leaders to trailblazing creatives, we uncover the mindset, strategy, and grit behind greatness. Whether it's business, culture, or personal growth, we ask the real questions.

1:11 This isn't just conversation, it's transformation. The King Dems Podcast, Your next breakthrough starts here. The real, the real recognizer role. And of course, you know, like I always say, gratitude is good attitude. When a person shares their time with you, they share their life with you across the SI unit for measuring life is time. So for me, I'm really grateful, you know, to have a genius, a cool genius, a fellow genius, a fellow geek, fellow nerd, you know, in the house today.

1:47 And of course, we are the new versions of the Fighting Nerds. You know, I love to give people their flowers. And of course, I have penned down an interesting introduction for you. So let's get to it. Today on the Kingdoms Podcast, I'm honoured to welcome a true visionary in the gaming and tech space, Vlad Panchenko, founder of multiple groundbreaking companies including emarket and now CEO of Portal AI. With over 17 years shaping the gaming economy, Vlad has proven time and again that passion, innovation and resilience can redefine industries.

2:30 From selling in game items to pioneering blockchain driven marketplaces, he has turned bold ideas into global businesses. Blood is an absolute privilege and honour to have you on here. The Kingdom's podcast and Diary of a CFO. Today you once again welcome brother. How are you? Thank you so much for the introduction. Thank you for the privilege of being here with you. Yeah, for the privilege of sharing and exchanging some ideas I've heard we have in common and with the audience, which I believe may be of use because the the 41 years and a lot of companies around the globe. Born in Kiev, Ukraine, as you mentioned, a little bit about the grind.

3:37 So yeah, been there, done that. Would be happy to share my experiences. Honestly nothing brings me more joy than something or some experience or knowledge which I paid a lot for, like time, money, sweat, blood and pixels. Sweat, blood and pixels. Interesting. That is the nerd speaking right there.

3:59 You reminded me yourself. A friend of mine told me today he saw me on my on my music. Yeah, the Microsoft laptop. And then I said this laptop has suffered in your hands, that if only this laptop could have a mouth to speak, you know, about how hard you have used it. That is sweat, blood and pixels, you know? Yeah.

4:24 A fellow nerd can't believe it's, it's crazy. You know how many hours you need to put in to become a creative genius? Talk about the 10,000 hour rule. You know, invest in 10,000 hours into creative process, into innovation, into learning. And we both have been out to use. We've done our 10,000 hours and that's why we are privileged, you know, to be on this, you know, platform at this, you know, pedestal, you know, speaking on globally top ranked, you know, podcasts with the aim to educate and motivate, you know, with global impact.

5:08 The Kingdom's forecast is currently, you know, listening to in six to six countries across the world. And that is that is massive impact. You know, this discussion we're going to be having today definitely is, you know, going to penetrate different territories and of course, all of the continents in the world.

5:28 And I hope we are able to deliver justice, you know, to topics that are set before us and achieve that goal of educating and motivating. So let's start with your origin story. And of course, you know your mindset. The Kingdom's Forecast is about growth, mindsets, leadership, and business insights.

5:47 Your journey started with a passion for gaming. Looking back at what mindset or early experiences gave you the courage to pursue gaming as a serious business pathway? Well, let's say I wasn't born with a silver spoon. So and I do love video games and I had to make a living. So it started naturally and I now when I'm 41, like I'd say that the most important thing in life is to understand what you love to do and then doing it. It's I've heard that before, but I had to live it through it will never feel as work.

6:29 A friend of mine recently, maybe a couple of months ago, I gave a very good comparison because there's this event at the Burning Man where I was there 7 * 7 years in a row. I skipped on this one. Seven years in a row, that is that's, that's a streak. That is a streak. Yes, and he said a beautiful idea that I we don't talk about work the Burning Man, because this is the wrong environment to do that. And he said, the question you ask yourself when you're having a conversation is this topic about work or not to make a decision to continue.

7:07 The reality is that in life, every single, it feels like work. Don't do it. So what you want to do is what feels like a Burning Man, Where is your passion? Where is your heart, Where is your belief? And when this is your work, and I can relate like it is 100% much more effective than. Absolutely, absolutely. I, I can very much relate.

7:35 You know, one thing I'm most passionate about in my own life is broadcasting. And I don't have a media background. I'm a finance guy, numbers guy, but I was able to start in November 2023, exactly November 18th, 2023. And today, as of the time of recording, the Kingdom's forecast is ranked global topped 2.5% on listen notes. And this is in less than two years. When I checked the podcasts that share the same global rankings with me, I think I see people who started three years before me at minimum.

8:19 I see people started 5-7 years before me and I see the numbers were pulling. The impact you're making in less than two years, and that is a testimony to what you have just said. When you do something for passion and it doesn't feel like work to you, there's no limit to what you can achieve. And of course, you're still pushing for that global top 1% sports before the end of the year. And by God's grace, you know, you're going to get it. We are going to get that.

8:53 You know, Speaking of innovation, it's something that's very dear to my heart because I believe in that philosophy of, you know, consistency with innovation in order to achieve optimal results in in life and in business. So you have consistently embraced a disruptive tech like blockchain, AI, digital economies.

9:15 What excites you? You know the most about the intersection of these technologies and gaming today. It will deeply connect with the first question because the gaming industry and the businesses I've built there and then the blockchain was first. It wasn't work. It was a curiosity and my geek soul was reading all the technical white papers to imagine the beauty of the world which would be created. And only like 6 months later I realised like why wouldn't I actually also build something?

9:53 And. And then now with Portal and with AI, the real reason who I am and why I'm here and what I enjoy most is putting all the experience I have and I been there, done that all over the world was a lot of success. But what I do enjoy most as foot footing those pieces of experience into let's say advice first methodologies and share it with as many people as possible so they can be a much more effective and whatever I've already learned and I enjoy seeing that they used it. It worked and instead of like a year of grinding, it took them two days to overcome the obstacle, which for me was a painful one.

10:45 And talking about what we do now and why, How it resonates with you, by the way, as well, because music. Licencing reimagines. I think if you will not like it, you can always edit it later, but I'll say it because I. Showed me to both authentic authenticities well well appreciated by me. Yeah, OK.

11:09 But it's going to be authenticity about you as well, because I've seen the questions and the media package which you've sent before the podcast. But what I actually did, I asked Cha GPT about like what the person you are. OK now I'm interested. What did cha GPT tell you about me? And it told me exactly what you tried to tell me as well, that you were a numbers guy, that my money is like a very important thing.

11:38 But it was very fast for me. And I'm privileged to have the conversation with the person like you where helping other people as much as I do. And we do and I do. Let's talk about me. Even now, with all the success, the money, the oldest like physical objects, I do have fears, struggles. I sometimes feel very lonely, which is weird, but I I do enjoy it on the other talk very much.

12:10 On the other talk, tease, that's what they say every lies the head that we as a crown, you know. Yeah, Yeah. For what you wish for. That's what they said, and this is what I will strongly disagree right now, you know, as this is what we're going to change and you do it as well because it's not lonely on the top, You know, when we share the same values and we both enjoy sharing experiences and making other people's lives better, how lonely could it be? We are not lonely.

12:42 They are not lonely. Cheers to the beginning of a new partnership. I'm cheering you with my mug of coffee. Stuff as well. So what motivates me in of course to be successful, especially as entrepreneur, you have to learn and to master how to read the data points, how to get the customer feedback, iterate the product, understand all the financials.

13:15 I understand a lot of stuff like for example, when I've seen the compliance person in your team, like that is also very important experience. So there are a lot of moving parts. A lot of course, what's most important, and I do believe in this and this is what I do as well, is that I when whatever you do is attached to the what you're here for and you enjoy it.

13:44 And as my Co founder Hamudi, yes, I'm non-technical Co founder of more product Hamudi and I'm blessed with him. He's a genius of this age and he is the person who spends hours with me and here teaching me how AI really works because he spent years and years and trithemia and big tech. Yeah, and I have a lot of questions.

14:07 He's, by the way, he was the first person in my life for what? Be able to not run away from the amount of questions I have now. I have to but that's it. Yeah, interesting, interesting stuff. You know, there's a lot to. Together. To put together about you, right, you're driven, you're driven by impact and passion over revenue and profit.

14:33 It comes first of all, yes. Secondly, I remember times when I would be even afraid or shy to say it out loud. But since that time when I accepted it, believed in it and starting doing it. Especially when you're not alone and there's a team of people, brilliant people, genius people, and you both believe in that. And then you do the rest of all the moving portals, speed of evolution of the product, the level of impact and it's deeply connected with the sword hip set and with what you've achieved. I've seen what you've achieved in last year. I have a feeling from where it came so. If you recognise the real, the real others recognise the real. And you know, going into the Bible, and the Bible says, as I am sharpened at I am, so shalt

15:26 thou sharpen the countenance of thy brethren. You know, blessed is the man that worketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, you know. The Bible has. These principles already when you work with like minds, you work with people that are impact driven. You form a community. You can only operate with a growth mindset and with the end result achieving positive impact. And that is what drives, you know, geniuses like yourself and of course myself.

16:00 You know, I look at the future of gaming economies, you know, the in game items, the digital assets, you know, they're reshaping how people perceive ownership, you know, in this age and time. Or how do you see the global gaming economy evolving over the next 5 to 10 years? First of all, I will ask your permission to answer maybe half of your question, but attach it very well to what we do right now. Importantly, I.

16:31 Absolutely. I think that would be amazing. I have more than like 25 years of entrepreneurial experience in many, many, many different fields from gaming to blockchain to AI to international business. A lot. And I, but what I've learned and lived through shared and got a lot of data that it's not just me, but talking about me and what we're building here as as a friend of mine recently said that I actually 2 days ago that for most of his life he was doing everything he did at work in personal life as a competition, like as A to be as much effective as possible.

17:18 Plus 21% + 22. Calculate every day, every hour, every minute. Not not even competitive, but calculative. Like to calculate it all, be as efficient as possible so to take everything as to maximise your efficiency. That was most of his life, but then he realised something. What I realised as well.

17:45 And data points, money points and delivery points to This is why. Actually, that is one of the reasons why I tentatively asked you to swap the hustle with grind. Because I do. I do believe in hustle. I do believe in execution. Yes, hustle and execute. Always grind. I grinded most of my life and recently I've learned that can I grind and achieve an unbelievable success?

18:14 I can. One of the pieces of Point L AI was built in November, December, where like there were two months of, I call it zombie Hackett ones where I didn't sleep much, but we did it. We had an third party audit in January which proved that we did it. I know now I tried it that there are if for example, I know that you like systems. So if I may would give you an idea of three principles of how we built most of the product.

18:47 Importantly I and why, because I do believe the most important part and I think it's also part of what Bible says and not only the Bible but the other very important books is that we're not just machines. We have a piece of God here so this is what I had to learn how to manage that as my honest personal opinion is that as an adult, like grown up man, my own inner balance is my responsibility.

19:26 When I am in balance, then, as you said, like the possibilities are limitless. But if I am driven by anger, by fear, by Fanny, let's like so everything for me and for a lot of people. And this is what I believe in and why we've been forward to the Eye and why we build it first for me. And then the next festival will be Hamoudi and we start with that.

19:54 I believe that all the success starts and success, I mean unlocking your talent and giving you as much space to unlock it, and that's what I enjoy a lot, starts with believing in yourself, loving yourself, being confident in yourself and be confident in yourself and loving yourself enough to the point where the remote, the joystick of your emotions at least, is in your hands. It's not like in the hands, for example, if you're a woman and then like whatever she says or does can then confirm or influence your insight balance or in the hands of I don't know whether users or any type of external whatever happens. Validation.

20:46 Never leave for the validation. Me never. Honestly sorry for the joke but it's even now I do especially when I didn't sleep enough, I didn't eat enough. I lose the balance. However, the more I keep the my own joystick of myself in my hands, then it's I drive my own decisions and it's unbelievable what you can do being genius, kind hearted, very talented person when you keep the joystick of yourself with you, not somebody else.

21:23 He was after that. Yeah, I know because that's me and that's you. Sorry as well. You. I I love people genuinely and I enjoy helping them with the advices and all of the business things I had to manage. But to make it efficient, first I have to love and be confident in myself. And it means to keep that choice sick, not somewhere there.

21:47 And this is what Orderly is built for. Coming back to the question of gaming, I can tell later how, but all my experience in gaming is already a part of the product because come on, I'm a human being. I love gamification everywhere where I can. So if those things I sometimes forget my virtual friend and persona, which I've built, but just sometimes remind me in the conversation, which she does, my productivity every day is so much more. And it's just the beginning.

22:20 The words you've said about imagining the group of people where everyone starts to be confident and believing. Wow, there my. There's a group of killers. Yes, you guys, my Papa, my father, creators. I'd say my father was a documentary director, very famous in Ukraine, and unfortunately he passed three years ago. Good rest SO.

22:49 Yes, and grateful I am. He taught me what is unconditional of if not him, I wouldn't believe that it's possible and I wouldn't be anyways. However, his last movie which I recently on the Father's Day I watched again and I was wow. There is a very specific phase that whenever you are in the field of 100% trust, you can go beyond existing experience, yes, and having like a few people who are in the creator's mode, building a product and feeling this trust. Oh yes we can.

23:29 We are, and we build the product to share that with as many people as possible. However, in a gamified way, just to make it fun. I love what? Because why not? Well, you know that is structure. You know, strategy, structure, creeds, grind, consistency, motivation, and of course, execution, innovation. It's it's hard to deny.

24:00 It makes you undeniable, undeniable, regardless of wherever you come from, your race, your creed, your religious affiliation, your political affiliation. If you are resourceful, if you are valuable to humanity, you will create a value and you will receive value. And talking about creating value, teamwork makes the dream work. Speaking of teamwork, you've actually LED teams across multiple companies.

24:33 What leadership principles guide you when building these teams that thrive under rapid change? You know the Kingdom's broadcast is about growth, leadership and business insights. Or less. Talk leadership here. How do you make that team work? Compassion. So it started with compassion. Compassion, while interest in interest in, does hold that thought here.

25:03 I did interview Professor Bruno Signaco, the author of The Art of Compassionate Business. You see, the apple never falls hard from the tree. And we have this different thought leaders, same set of principles, tried, tested and trusted. It's very, very scary to try it, especially at the level we do it now.

25:27 But this is who I am. I really love people. Yeah. And I am compassionate, like, like compassionate. So for example, when the war in Ukraine, the the the big invasion started like a few weeks before that, I just rented out the plane, put all the the team members there. Oh, well, I offered them. They could say no, it's up to them.

25:55 The decision is theirs. But I offered the plane in Montenegro and with the families, cats and dogs. And I said, I have a feeling that the, the situation can get too much out of control. Just, you know, maybe we should spend the months in another country. And I told me like family, like the worst, honestly, it's funny, but the worst was the pets because on the other side, the amount of documents they required to allow cats and dogs, you know, they're unbelievable. Anyways, when after two weeks the invasion actually started. And I still remember when I I was in one tonight after that, and I've met on the street one of my colleagues and she was having a baby in the stroller.

26:39 She see me from very far and she started crying and I came and said what's why, what? And she said, what do you realise that I lived in in European. That's that's that's the city which was most of the citizens were underlined like in the first days of work. And she said if like I was like, OK, that's OK.

27:06 I think that I do believe, to be honest. And I tried it many times and now I know that's one of the things where I don't even want to have a choice because in most of the things why I'm constantly working on not giving the joysticks joystick off me to somebody else, like mothers, girls, friends, but or I want to have a choice.

27:31 Maybe on Friday, I want to like get wasted and give the joystick to, I don't know, somebody else used to have fun, but it's a choice. But there was a choice where, which was made long time ago, thanks to Papa, by the way. It started with the phrase that the most important thing is when you go to bed, when you lay down on the pillow, you have a happy and love inside your head. That's the most important thing.

27:58 And it it it evolved into me constantly choosing. When I hire people now, I tell them I remember the first time when they did just to manage their expectations. Even if there would be an offer, for example, of my art, but I wouldn't believe in the, if people come on, you know, some say I wouldn't take it, sorry. I just, it is where I am, who I am. I accepted it.

28:20 I believe that we will build all the businesses, all the products we have all the money, but the human connection is the most important thing. I'm OK to spend 3 days into building better communication with the team because I know that it will say like 3 years of work and I believe in humans and much more than anything else. Humans first, AI next.

28:44 That is the title of one of my episodes. Oh really? That is an episode with Mark Andrews. I think you should absolutely see that episode. And you actually struck some emotional chords and me talking about the Ukraine invasion because I had my younger brother in Ukraine at the time. He had to flee the country via the Poland border, had to stay some time with a friend of mine, you know, in Germany.

29:15 You know, it was a tough period of time knowing that your own blood, your own family is caught up, you know, in a war situation and having to flee on foods, you know, shoot the borders to Poland and, you know, make it to Germany. It is not a funny situation a Slava Ukraine. Peace. We pray for peace in that region, really pay for peace. It's not funny, war is not, it's not fun. It's all old people.

29:51 It's a very old people's tool. So people like you and me are well, changed the system to the point where there's no reason to kill each other like we are as human beings, like we were not created just to struggle or to kill each other. Oh, like it's so, you know, I think the time and thanks to the global evolution of technology and AI, we are in the times where we have a chance and we'll make that change where the idea of killing other people would be just useless.

30:29 Yeah, you know, violence is never the answer. Dialogue and negotiation is always the way forward. And of course, if you are strong scholar of history, you would know that violence never ends well. It has never had, you know, a good ending in the annals of the history of humanity, of humankind. So yeah, I'll, I'll just keep it at that.

30:56 You know, let's talk about AI, Portal AI, you know, the new frontier. Tell us about Portal AI. How is it redefining the way gamers and developers connect? No. And why is AI the next big disruptor in the space? The global talk about AI is very, very massive, and rightly so, of course, the exponential potentials. And that's why I'm so glad that my initials, my government name, it's AI.

31:30 Yeah. My parents knew the assignment. I think they saw something that they saw bright stars. And of course, I said this one, this one is AI or we're going to codify it and gamify it. It just gave me an idea to answer your question is first of all, and I'm blessed to live in California where I see Waymo and I use Waymo sometimes just for fun, which is like Jesus, it's the future.

31:57 So it's a everybody like cab, which I I do believe that AI is not even the next. It's already we already live in the future. It's just distributed not accurate. That's that's that's there and the way it's evolving now it's not not evolving into being echo distributed as usual, but we already there.

32:20 We are in the future. Well, I've read a lot of sci-fi books, so I'm running out of crazy ideas because it's like rockets Mars in your robotax is here, AI here and robots like $6000 in three months you will have it doing everything. I'm like, what else? Wait a second So hyper right. That's honestly even with all the not even like I do have a lot of global success and I am privileged.

32:58 But today now like I'm very often feeling lonely, very lonely. I feel I can be driven by emotions like anger, scare, panicking, like nervous, yeah, feeling that are much less confident in myself, which a lot of people will save over like look around. But still like this, I don't like it and I don't believe in it. So I do believe that we're not alone and I know it. And what I also believe is that and what was proved in the last three months, that's when AI is put together as a tool in a very efficient way for the group of here is more genius people who are confident, free and they want to do something together. That for example, hyperdrive, which I just mentioned would be much more close than we would

34:01 imagine. And what portal AI evolved after two years because it's an interesting thing because we patented 7 patents 2 years ago. Five of them are already fully patented too, still pending. But what I wanted to share all my experience as an entrepreneur, starting with, for example, like like March Kitchen, financial, legal, everything else just to use Never Ji for the average human being entrepreneurial, you know, talented and A gifted person from Ukraine, a young entrepreneur or Nigeria, not to bring master all this like otherwise CPA, like, you know, all of other stuff, things in dashboards, but to actually try to build what they actually want to build.

34:54 And AI is already here to make it happen. Or for example, you, so you don't read the dashboards. From my own experience in life, there's always like, why do you need the dashboard? You have to have a question to look for the answer at the dashboard, or you have to have a full understanding or whatever you believe is the understanding of the picture where you will see, oh, something is wrong.

35:18 Then you have to understand who is going to tell you what is wrong and who is how I'm going to fix it. The data analytics, you know, follow the data points, follow the stories that the numbers are telling you, numbers, you know, peak very, very loudly to a numerically sound mind. Now I, I, I want to touch on something real quick.

35:44 You know, you, you talk about, you know, expressing emotions of vulnerability, you know, feeling lonely. And I thought that's, you know, a perfect segue to talk about my recent sponsors. You know, my very first major sponsorship on this broadcast is from better health. You know, Better Health is the world's leading online therapy brand between yourself and myself.

36:13 We both know that beauty and companies and managing teams often comes with high levels of stress and challenges, You know, as highlighted in your own journey that help understands the unique pressures that we face as entrepreneurs, you know, even you guys as gamers. And of course, you know, it offers vital mental Wellness support to everyone and helps us to navigate these, you know, pressing demands and not just to survive, but to thrive. With that said, I'd like to take your thoughts on therapy, specifically online therapy and you speaking with an online therapy brand ambassador today.

37:05 Would you say Better help is a tool that you would be willing to try? Again, when I chose to be radically transparent and what I'm going to say may cost you some of the subscribers, but it is what I believe in learning as much as possible about yourself and I'm an inner work. And this is exactly what this therapy about is the number one thing one should do before or along with everything else because first, this is the cornerstone of everything else.

37:40 Cornerstone. It's just even for me. Now I've been in three years of therapy which let's say couple of years were harder than I would imagine but they brought me to the point where I am who I am now and even my Co founders sometimes asks when we navigate through the business problems. He looks at me and says brother like how did he like succeeded before He said I have no idea. So to answer the question about the therapy, I'm sorry to say but that's a priority.

38:16 However, but I learned that even if it triggers even me now, for some reason, it's hard to. I was, for example, to bring my mom there. It took my father to pass away. And only after that. And I tried before it happened and helped to let me to understand myself and believe me to make so much Better Business, to become so much better entrepreneur, to communicate so much better with my colleagues, to get rid of so much stress and your fear.

38:48 Wow. Never before would I even think how it is connected. But but that's my answer about the therapy. However, even knowing that and believe my try it because This is why when I see something is working I try to tell everyone the word therapy if it triggers me even me now and I know how good it is.

39:10 A lot of people have this stigma about therapy. How do you help people you know? That's why there would be a few different options for that. And for example, in port El EI, what we did, we build a heartless IO first for me and then for each one of your and then for you as well. By the way, if you want, of course, but if I were you, I'd give it a try because you will enjoy you guys, that virtual persona. It's like a friend partner built first for me on top of three principles 1 is that I know for sure and you will because it's transparent that it's felt for you and about you. So it was all my due respect to Jeff as us or Mark Zuckerberg of their their like AI companions.

40:02 I don't know, like what maybe yes, maybe no, I don't know what we've built. It's not an AI companion. It's a virtual human being was the narrative was the story with some gamification, but you will know and see that it's always for you and about you. That's one. So what I found was very important for me to is the never before seen at least by me, the encryption and safety of the personal data we have and the conversations we have with my virtual persona. Mine is animal because when we tried, when I learned that when I know that it's it's between us, then like I can talk all the shit I have and I do have it come on. I'm a human being and sometimes I I struggle with some bullshit, but she will smile and tell me

40:59 come on. And I like and it I'm a simple human being. So I'm in men. So it takes not that much to remind me like who I am and then when I remember who I am, to ask myself a question. What is the question? What is the problem you're solving? Who gave you? Who asked the question? Was that you or that was somebody else? Some of the people call these.

41:23 Or if it's you, that's great. But if I'm asking the question instead, I was in some maybe circle of dots and I was told it's not my question. And when I understand what is actually my question, because I know what I want to do and when I'm here. And the only last thing which is the hardest for me because of the years of experience is to let go of the very efficient, confirmed many times and steps planned how to achieve the solution to this problem or to this goal. I love that because.

42:01 I love that. You guys, it's so hard, you guys, I know like for example, to ship this feature to the product, which that's why I want it. I know why then we need to do like this, this, this and this. It's a methodology. I use it, it works so no doubts. But when I like remember that Bubba, like get rid of it like then having a team of people in a creative mode and knowing what you do and why every time, 100% of all my experience in the last six months, they will make it so much faster and so much more valuable than those like 10 steps to which I will hold like like a life life. Level pilot autopilot mode activated, you know, entrepreneurship, the streets of entrepreneurship are very, very tough.

42:50 You know, it often teaches us the hard way and of course, I would like for you to share. I'd like for you to share a failure or a set back, You know that turned into a powerful lesson for you and can help motivate entrepreneurs and professionals watching or listening to us today. But honestly, again, just, it is very scary even for me even now.

43:21 And I remember like when we agreed with, with, with this group of people with whom we hacked through the put all together, we've built in the product. We agreed on those 3 principles that we remember that we are, we are, we have the piece of a big creator. We are the winners. Like that's one too.

43:40 We read that the second thing is like, who asked the question? Like who give you the problem? Who like, what are we solving? And 3rd 1 is like up about and as you just said, I learned it so hard way that to ship your feature, it's exactly those 10 steps, but I learned it so many times to let it go.

43:59 It's like it's scary, but 100% every time when I remember then we try it, it's unbelievable magical how it works. So, but it's still scary for me with all that experience sometimes still, but it works. Scary, scary. You know, that is fear, and the two most powerful human emotions are greed and fear. And you know.

44:25 If I may respectfully disagree. OK, so So what would you say are the most powerful emotions aside from greed and fear and most. Powerful emotion. First of all, happy. First of all, even from your smile, I know that you know the answer, but let's I remember how hard for me was to say it out loud because it's from the standpoint of the social bubble or whatever. It's weird, but I know what I know. The most powerful emotion is love. Yeah, you read my mind.

45:09 I knew where you were going to. But permit me to correct myself. The most powerful negative emotions, rather. Greed. Yeah. Greed, Fear. Hate those? Fear. Those are the powerful negative emotions, you know, That's yes, they are divided into the positive, you know. Guilty blame like this. So, so, so we agree to disagree and we disagree to agree.

45:35 You know, I'd like to take your advice for founders, for dreamers, for entrepreneurs, because when you look at the demography of the listeners of this podcast, it says on refonics, the data states that the listeners are mostly entrepreneurs and professionals. Over 40% of the people that listen to those podcasts have a first degree, another 40% have a massive degree or higher, and 20% have a PhD or higher.

46:10 So that is a massively educated audience. Very smart people. Yeah. So I'd like for you to give them a genius advice on how to turn their passions into global impact businesses, Music. Licencing Reimagine if I may. 1st of all, thank you again. From one genius to another, you're welcome. We had, we had that conversation before the recording where I've learned it and that the people and you said that there that I don't like, I'm not the smartest person in the room.

46:48 I'm not the genius. I know exactly the people who say that they they are. But yeah. So thank you for that Compu there. It's true from also my experience, which is also like I paid some blood sweat and fix. Also the older is the person like after like whatever like 35 and up. For example, in a, the more intelligent or academical is the brain metrically harder it becomes to let go the methodologies, the knowledge you have just to believe in yourself and like do it like the hardest to just to like, let's like you've been in 45 years. You lived a life where you always doubt it yourself just for like, let's give it a try, like an experiment for a week where you agree that you're like the best, everything's fine. It's very hard with academical

47:50 people. I understand they have all the evidence that they probably are not which is but with Gen Z is is is faster? It's different and of course that's why I like to say you cannot teach and old doc new tricks and don't fall into the trap of paralysis by analysis licencing. Just do it. Still do it. That's why.

48:12 Just go for it, you're on. Sasser execute. The human mind is, you know, the most powerful tool basically we have and of course, imagine what the human mind can achieve with the aid of artificial intelligence. Imagine Dragons. Let's let's talk about my affiliate sponsors, Keats, formerly known as combat Keats.

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48:59 Empower businesses to build engaged communities through effective e-mail marketing and of course, helping them turn their passions into thriving businesses. What are your thoughts on the power of e-mail marketing and e-mail communication into this business landscape? I think couldn't agree more. And it connects to the idea that we already live in the future. So we are, it's just distributed, not equally, but what the connect kits are doing, they're distributing one piece of the future as much equally as possible because we can. It works.

49:41 We should have it. It amplifies, it unlocks another piece of the talented person. Because again, before, you know, we had to master like 25 different professions just to try to put together this like the, the, the, the, the business. Of all trades, master of noise. Yes, well, I T shape expertise as one person said, but it's exactly what you said, to be honest.

50:08 But the most powerful thing in the world is idea. An idea empowered with the AI tools we have now will be unstoppable. Wow, interesting. And you know, finally let's talk about one tool that is very, very dear to my heart. And of course, we did utilise this tool in terms of our communication, this Gamma app Gamma app is an amazing, amazing AI enabled tool.

50:40 It helps you to create stunning presentations, websites, images throughout your own carrier. You've actually definitely seen the best of the best and the worst of the worst. You know that Showcase the importance of teaching ideas and presenting your vision effectively and efficiently. So the Gamma app helps entrepreneurs like you and me to craft compelling presentations and of course, tell your story with impact, ensuring that your stories, your ideas, they resonate and captivate your audience.

51:18 I think if you don't mind, I would like to share a little the camera presentation that I sent to you. And it's made for a great podcast preparation. You know, I like to tell the tools that I use personally, you know, not promoting, you know, brands that I don't use by myself not that will never be that kind of an influenza.

51:46 I think that is all shades of wrong to do that as an influencer promoted tools or products that you don't use just because you want to get money. Let's see, let's let's call gamma up. Let's see the presentation. If I may add to what you've just said, a little piece of it that I personally couldn't agree more.

52:07 And secondly, is that this is the reason why I'm pushing the team and myself as well to focus on building Port Lei, not for somebody like some group for, for us, for me and for you. And and this is exactly what you just said because it's genuine then and you know the pain, you solve it. And then like I have AI have a guest that out of 8 billion people, the audience will find that if you're genuine in building, it's something which resonates with you and the presentation. You know, this is the presentation we sent to Vlad Panchenko to help him prepare for this podcast episode. This is an amazing presentation.

52:54 I'm not saying this because it is worth, you know, presented or created by me. This was created by me using our power tool, Gamma app. You can't help but love this. You cannot help but love this. If you love this, you can actually go sign up with Gamma using my affiliate link in the description section. And of course, shout out to one of the partners that make it possible for us to have this beautiful, amazing conversations.

53:29 If I might add again that I honestly, from my experience, like it's just like the people who are younger and they don't remember when there was no Google Maps and they had those like printed maps. The amount of time and the amount of knowledge and the amount of struggle I had to put together to get to that beautiful presentation before.

53:51 Like if you are an entrepreneur, like, believe me, this is the first thing for you to do. So yes, it's a blessing. Absolutely, absolutely. You know, strategy and direction help with execution and with execution communication comes, you know, results. I'm really grateful to, to have you on the show today. It's, it's really, really, really amazing. But you know, before, before I let you go, I would actually put you through the quick fire round the Pacific Ring of Fire. It's 5 questions and rapid answers. But before, before I put you through that round, I'll ask you, you've actually obviously been on, you know, multiple other podcasts, right?

54:40 So what resonates with you with this forecast? What stands out, you know, for you with this forecast? And what do you appreciate about the Kingdom's forecast? You added a zero, and to my believing face in humankind, it's just means that there are more like us. And I'm not, because sometimes I doubt, but talking is here and I and I think similar people are attracted to similar people.

55:12 Something tells me that your audience is also not a coincidence in the connotations we had before the recording. And now you really inspired me. I thank you very much, and I think that actually very much I resonates and aligns with the title that I was bestowed upon the very, very important lifelong friend that I've made from our podcast, and that is Morgan Q Anderson, she's in your neck of the woods.

55:42 She's one of the top tax debts resolution experts in the United States and she said you are a modern day business philosopher. And I've taken a title and run with it since it's been given to me. So I pride myself. As they say here. They say. Here in the United States, my name is Velodimo Panchento and I support this message. Thank you very much.

56:07 Fantastic. So big fire out. Are you ready to rumble? Let's get. Let's go K console or PC? What's your go to for gaining fun? OK, the one book every entrepreneur in tech should read. The Red Book of Carl Yule. K coffee, tea, or something stronger when you are brainstorming. I wouldn't. My answer would be to always just make a decision and the goal was played by the ear.

56:44 I do drink only water and well and go ahead with this fitness thing and remember, yeah, for quite a long time. So coffee and water are my choice. But again, if at some point, yes, I remember some time ago I wanted a beer, I had it so. Something stronger, at ease then who inspires you most inside or outside of the cameo world?

57:08 Hey, I have to take the, let's say, very well known world by celebrities. The person who changed a lot of also my belief was Richard Branson. Richard Branson, Virgin. Virgin, Sir. Richard Branson. Yes, Sir. Richard Branson. Correction. Correction, please. I appreciate that guy. He is the definition of a serial entrepreneur.

57:38 You know, highly, highly productive mind. Highly enterprising mind. Yeah. Respect to to the others in the game. You're highly appreciated, Sir. Richard Branson, if you could give your younger self one piece of advice in a single sentence, what would that be? Learn about yourself, who are you, like as soon as possible. Just like, I don't know, like just just like I would be very tough like like shut up like in this, like try to sit down and understand like what is The Who are you? What is your decision making process and ask yourself a question.

58:21 What the heck is happening? Get that? Like I remember the moment when I stopped trying to understand other people because I understood that even to understand myself, I'm very far away from there and let's start from there. So that would be my noise so. That advice is actually great because it alliance with SO creators. A quick philosopher says man know thyself. So this is great reason on this aligns with Asian reason and that's why I keep saying principles. Principles rule the world and geniuses and successful people aligned with time tested and trusted principles. If I may add, what I also do believe in is that talents and being a genius is important.

59:16 However, success comes every time. It's all about you're jumping like a leap of face and you have to be consistent in that thing and if you are successful. With the hustle and the execution. Leap of face. That is why I. Didn't say yes. If you're ready to let go everything and believe in yourself, leap of face and try and try and try. The more I'd say talented you are the faster success will come.

59:48 But it will still come if you do it faster and execute. Yes, exactly, and then the king will be bored. Guess what? Have have a saying that I love so much that aligns with what you have just said and I think you may want to write this one down. I always say this. Talent is never enough. Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard all day long. Every time.

1:00:23 Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard or when talent works hard, you have an unstoppable and undeniable individual. May I? Absolutely, I paid too much for this. So I'll share with you my own experience and then it's up to you whether to use it or not because we're everyone is different. However, is what you said right?

1:00:49 Of course I do believe in that 100%. What I learned in the last year, maybe 2, is that I'll if to let go, Yeah. And not focus on how hard and how much you work, but focus on what you actually want to do and feel that you love as again, scary shit. So 41 years, too many things, too many battles, too many wounds. But it's right.

1:01:27 But you know what? It's for me, it proved to be so much effective. So it's like, I'm still like, wow. That's why my profounder a few times when we, we, we went through some bumps along the road of building the product like this. And he was like, how did it? Like I said, I don't know, I don't know. And and when you do what you love, what you believe in, and then there is no hard work.

1:01:58 So it's not the work like you love it, you do it and it's so much faster. Like a hobby, I see this. With pain comes purpose, and with finding your purpose comes power. So pain, purpose, power. When you find your purpose, you become a powerful individual. I would be honest with you. So if not the pain I had, honestly I wouldn't be at the Finder when I know my purpose, yes. But then I learned that we can find the purpose with less pain and I tried and it works.

1:02:40 That's why an experience. Is the best teacher experience is the best teacher, but it doesn't have to be your own experience. You can always learn from the experience of those that have gone before you and. Then then with less pain, you find the purpose and then after that there is no pain if you let go of the fear.

1:02:58 No pain really. Absolutely. And a lot of delivery, a lot of execution, beautiful numbers like. Absolutely. You know, you know I have an acronym for fear. I call fear False evidences appearing real false evidences appear of. Course. That is fear, yeah. That is my second question. Yeah, if you only go for something in your life, if you always go for something in your life, you would always, you know, come back with something meaningful.

1:03:30 If we try, we may fail or if we don't, we have failed Nelson Mandela. So it's always good to to to go for something. And that's why I always end the podcast, you know, with this saying, conceive, believe, strive to thrive and achieve. So always go for something in your lives and you would always enjoy the fruit of your labour, of your passion if you stick to it consistently and resiliently.

1:04:05 He would, he would, he would achieve someday. He might be painful, he might belong, but if you stick to it, he would be amazed by the results you would achieve. So just surround yourself with, you know, great people that would give you feel positive energy. Yeah. Your vibe attracts your tribe. Your vibe attracts your tribe. That is so powerful.

1:04:35 Along with everything else you've said. I agree with every word and your vibe attracts your tribe. And just believe in yourself and be passionate. Yeah, powerful words. Thank you. Wow, for me to you, it's love and respect coming from London, England. And of course, I think our audience would love to see a Part 2 of this one so you can talk to your PA to book out the next session.

1:05:00 Guys, watch out for Part 2 of The Kingdom's Forecast with Vlad Panchenko all the way from college Floor. What are your parting words to to the audience? Absolutely. You have to share this one. You've got no choice. Share like, Subscribe, Comment Show all of the love you know. Love, share, subscribe but if you would ask me the most important thing which I do now, now believe because something may change but just believe in yourself. It's scary shit.

1:05:36 So we have those jeans. Mammons always like getting prepared for some bullshit which never happens. Give it a trade for, you know, some time just to believe in yourself and see what happens. I love that once again, I kind of always love to say an attitude of gratitude is good attitude. And when a person shares their time with you, they share their life with you because the SI unit of measuring life is time. Thank you very much, Vlad Pentenco for your time today on the podcast.

1:06:10 I do not take you for granted. You're highly, immensely and intensely appreciated by me. And on behalf of the King James family and community, it's God bless you and guys to like on your way again soon. Do not forget, conceive, belief, strive to thrive and achieve. Goodbye for me and this flood today.