The Psychic Paramedic: Trauma, Death, and Taking Back Your Power with Sarah K. Grace

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1:17 and statements expressed by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the beliefs or positions of Next Level Soul Its host or any of the companies they represent. Now let's dive into today's episode. I like to welcome to the show, Sarah Kay Grace, Hey do Sarah?

1:34 What's up? Alex Ferrari?

1:35 Yeah? Were you doing? Sarah? Grace is so good.

1:37 Thanks for having me here today.

1:39 Thank you so much for coming down to Next Level Soil Studios. You. I wanted to bring you on because I've had a lot of psychics on mediums on but you are unique in the space because you used to be a paramedic. Correct, And I'm fascined. We're going to get deep into all of that. But at what point, let's go back a bit more. At what point did you start to sense that, hey, I got something that not other people around me have access to, or you started to feel different or see things or hear things, or just understand these abilities that you had.

2:16 I was a kid seven years old. I grew up in South Dakota, tiny town, middle of nowhere, pre internet.

2:24 Very open to psychic abilities, not.

2:28 At all, very conservative, and my nuclear family of origin was very volatile, and to put it mildly, so I didn't necessarily have the safety and the normal structure of a supportive family. And so I was a kid. I was riding around on my little bananasy bike, you know, And one day I went to bed, and the next day I woke up and I could see. It began with orc fields. So for me, it was like, you know, you see a street lamp at nighttime, you see the glow around. So I started to kind of see that around people into colors all the time, all the time.

3:04 And it began with that, and then it went into some energetics around like the earth. And then it went into feeling other people's feelings and sensing what they were thinking or what their intention was, or if they were lying. And then I began to be able to see disease in people's body. I'm a little kid man, middle of nowhere, right.

3:23 I couldn't google anything, like, I didn't have any sense of understanding, and I couldn't just go to my family and be like, hey, this is this okay. So I was hoping it would go away, and I just kind of waited it out for probably a few weeks or months, and it only got worse, and so I was very spacey, kind of disoriented. I had a lot of headaches, and I finally asked a family friend and I got the hellfire in brimstone, like, don't talk about this. We're going to send you to a looney bin, you know. And you hear that at age seven, and it just burned in my little brain, like, something's wrong with me? You know?

4:01 Why am I like this? If other people are not like this. I don't want to be like this. I want to be normal. I just want to belong. Yeah, I want to fit in. I want to be loved just like anybody. I want to belong. And so that moment at age seven, I can still remember to this day because that was the moment that toxic shame formed and I was in deeply internalizing that something was wrong with me.

4:26 Were you Christian? Catholic?

4:28 Grew up a Lutheran, ye, but very devout area of all kinds of Christianity.

4:34 So you had all that baggage. Yeah, so you start feeling guilty. Lutheran's I'm not familiar.

4:40 They're not as hardcore with guilt as Catholics, but it's still there's some thought in the genre.

4:47 You're in the same genre. That's funny. That's funny. So when you but when this started happening, did you did you think am I Am I losing it? Like? Or you were just so young because at seven you really don't know. At seven, you're just like if something happened, You're like, oh, I guess just that's the way the world is, right, Like, well, I guess this is what it is until they said the fire.

5:10 Until they said that, and then I was like, oh no, what's wrong with me? And then I really tried to shut it down and I tried to ignore it. It's just challenging when you're just picking up on what I now understand is just sensory input, right, that's coming into my nervous system because I'm wired differently, and there's nothing wrong with that that I know now, But I didn't know that as a kid, and so I really was scared.

5:35 Yeah, I mean, I guess you had no support, no anywhere, and at that time in history, especially in South Dakota, I'm assuming there wasn't anywhere you can get in from it. There was no internet, No, there was nobody talking about this stuff. So how long did you kind of keep this dormant in your life?

5:52 Oh gosh, I was closeted a good twenty five years. Oh wow yeah, yeah.

5:59 To your thirties.

6:00 Yeah, well until I became got into ems. Ultimately got into EMS and the energy started working through me and I could not ignore it any.

6:09 Wonder so before So, so, first of all, how did you Because I've heard this from so many different intuitives that when they stifle or close down their abilities, it starts to wear on them. Oh yeah, it wears on them mentally, it wears on them spiritually, emotionally, energetically. How did you deal with all of because I'm assuming some of this popped up. I mean you're in college and you're probably hanging out with some guys or you know, guys or gals and just like looking at them like oh that or does not look good? Oh god, I got Should I tell Nancy about this? Like you know that kind of stuff? Did you did that kind of creep into? I mean it had so creepy well.

6:52 For me, So what happened was, initially in high school I became an overachiever, and so through exercise and high performance, I kind of stifled it a bit because I started running ten miles a day, twenty miles at not twenty ten to twelve, when I was a teenager in high school still and I was rhythmically going into a meditative state.

7:15 At the time, I didn't understand what I was doing. I just knew that if I didn't move my body, I just felt so overwhelmed and I couldn't. It was really hard for me to be in my body. Now, combine that with the fact that I come from an extremely violent situation like it was extreme violence, physical violence, psychological violence daily and so in addition to being having this high sense perception that I'm trying to physically survive my day to day environment, so intensity became very normal for me, and I took initially to over exercising and high achieving. And it was when my mom died. She was diagnosed with cancer and her diagnosis to death was relatively quick, it was about six months. Wow. Now she

8:03 was a primary teacher for me, because she was a primary abuser for me, and I only wanted her love. She was very unwell, mentally unwell, and the physical and psychological attacks really tormented me and set my nervous system up for what I come to understand now, how full circle everything is. I took to the nine one one system well, because I was raised in that ad my I got this man.

8:34 I lived in this stress all the time. Right.

8:38 So when she died, though, that's really when it was like a lynch pin within me, because I was only seventeen. She went had a seizure, so she had non hog cancer. She had a seizure at my high school graduation party. She went down next to my cake. I'll forever remember that. That burns in your eye. She went down and that was the last time I ever saw a content. And so here I'm from seven to seventeen, dealing with daily physical attacks, psychological attacks, and then having to do with this, deal with this high sense perception, not feeling understood, feeling outcasts, feeling like danger. If I say anything, I'm going to get thrown into a looney bin. And so there was no safety, There was no supporter structure for me whatsoever.

9:23 And so when she died, it was like a lynch pin was pulled and I just I spiral, and for me it was alcohol and then into drugs and promiscuity and reckless behavior and smoking, and you know, I was just on my own train of destruction because I was like, not into this world, Like, what's the point of this if I'm being bombarded by all this stimulus and I don't have anybody. Nobody's here, you know, and so it. Yeah, we went through all of that until I had my overdose in my near death experience.

9:57 So tell me about when you I mean, first of all, I'm so sorry that you had to go through all of that as a you know, it's part of your life. Do you before we get into your near death experience, Now that you have all these experiences and your own abilities to connect with the other side, do you believe that you choose the path that you're supposed to in an incarnation. You have a soul blueprint. You choose the parents, you choose the environment, you choose the religion, you choose the community because they are all going to teach you, and even you choose the lineage because that brings all of that with it as well. Is that what you believe that happened to you? Because man, you you picked the heck of a one. I mean, you're like, I'll

10:41 take one of these, I'll take one of these. I'll put one of those in the car like abuse, Yeah, yeah, yeah, like ooh Lutheran, that's going to be a good one. But yeah, addiction, go for it. Oh wait, yeah, we haven't gone to the addiction aisle yet. Let's bring that in here. Promiscuity. So it seemed like you put it a lot early on in your life.

10:59 I stacked the deck.

11:00 You might. You were like, I'm just gonna do all of it. I'm sure your spirit. Guys are like, are you sure? Are you sure you want.

11:06 To do it all it?

11:07 Get spread this out over three or four lifetimes. No, no, no, I want to go now right. It seems like that would be the energy.

11:14 Yeah, that's it.

11:15 So you do? So you do agree that I do?

11:17 Yeah, I do now. And I've personally found that it doesn't It's not particularly helpful when somebody is going through a very hard time to be like you chose this all right?

11:26 No, no, no, Sometimes people say that and I'm like, yeah, it's not really helpful in the moment.

11:31 Guys, right after we've integrated and got the lessons right.

11:35 You've been shot, you know, you chose this, Like that's not do that quite yet. Yeah, ten years from can you remember that time you got shot. What happened after that? And then you start connecting dots totally. So, like you said, all of this stuff that you were going through helped you.

11:52 Oh it chimed me prime primed.

11:54 You wouldn't have been able to do that. No, not at all if you lived in a beautiful nuclear support you know, maybe in a new age in the world where your mother would be like, oh, you have the gift. Oh, let's help you. Yeah, grandma had the gift. Here's a book, here's the thing. Let's go to this covent like whatever is amazing? Right, And I've had both of those guests.

12:16 I've had intuitives who've had that, and I've had intuitives who've You're more in the extreme side of stuff that you had to deal with. So okay. So so then you've gone down the deep rabbit hole. Yes, gone down. You could go literally into the edge and then you die, you od So what what happened?

12:36 Well? So it for me, it was just the heightened sense of perception, right, going into higher states of consciousness. And I went into kind of this floating love bubble. So I had risen up out of my body and expanded. I felt very calm. For the very first time, I felt very loved, and there was this nurturing energy that I had just never experienced. And I was like, oh, thank god, you know, I'm good. I'm done. I don't want to go back there. And then I heard a female voice, probably a guide. Some people ask who was it.

13:11 Could be a guide, could be my higher self, and she was more articulate than I'm going to be. But she's like, yeah, we know it's hard, You're not done. And I was like, wait, I was floating. You know, there's fractals, it's golden Mandala's everything is just wonderful. And I hear this and I'm like, no, no, I'm good.

13:30 Thanks though, And essentially she showed me through visual we understand it's been very hard. If you choose to go back, you're actually gonna incorporate this and help a lot of people who are like you. And when you're in a heightened state of consciousness, everything makes sense simultaneously. So I'm able to see here and feel everything at the same time, and it's not overwhelming, right, and it just makes sense.

13:54 And I'm like, oh, yeah, of course cool. And I obviously chose to back and when I slammed back into my body. Reality sets in right, because you're back into duality, you're back into the tangible reality. And I had to crawl over to the phone and dial nine one one. And that was my first ever experience with nine one one. Yeah. Wow, yeah, And I'll tell you that the guy who came and I was in like Fargo, North Dakota, right in the.

14:26 Middle of nowhere.

14:26 It's like, well, they run like two calls place, they run like no calls, right, and this guy comes and I'll just never forget him as long as I live, because I'm just like this hot mess on the on the floor, right.

14:38 I was like nineteen, Oh my wow, and uh he walks in. He's got his little stathoscope, buzz cut, his little glasses. He was just a deck And I'll never it was very pivotal for me though. It was very important because this was my first experience with nine one one paramedics anything. And I remember sitting on that gurney just feeling like, dude, this is the worst moment of my life.

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15:12 And you're being a dick, you know, and I remembered thinking, if I'm ever in a position like that, I'm going to do it differently.

15:21 And he was. He did exactly what he needed to do.

15:24 Yeah. Yeah, he showed me. He shows that I made that decision that, yeah, I'm going to do it different.

15:30 So okay. So now it's interesting because you were you were an intuitive prior to you in your death experience. A lot of times people don't have anything or access to any of that stuff. They die and they come back with it. So you were already very familiar with the spirit world, even in your limited capacity of accepting it.

15:50 But you it wasn't like, oh my god. You were like, oh, thank god, I'm back here kind of vibe. Right when you died, Oh no, I.

15:57 Wanted to go home. Yeah. When I was out of body, you were.

16:00 You were like, oh thank god, yeah that place. So when you came back, how did you deal with all of that because you're still closet. According to you, I was.

16:09 Still closeted and I was in you know, I had gone up to college in that area, very lost, very disconnected, no sense of safety, structure, support and financial health, nothing, and so I had spiraled and hit that low point and for me, I went in through the psyche valuation process, and I remember my intuition was very strong about don't you just you know, tell them you're depressed and having a hard time, and then get out and go home and then we'll start the work. And so I realized that nobody was coming to save me. And man, was I mad because coming through everything I came through, surviving everything that I had, I just wanted somebody to come, like, you know, help me out, do it for me. And

16:54 I had a chip on my shoulder and I was I was angry. I was angry at the world. And when I had that, realized, Alex, and nobody's coming to save you. You have to do this for yourself. Because when I'm in heightened consciousness, everything makes sense. So I'm thinking it's going to be easy. But no, they don't give you a trail map. You still have to do the work.

17:11 You still have to figure it out when you're back here with normal sense perception, right, And so I just remember like getting real with myself, and I went through about two weeks and just stomping around being all mad, like you know, I shouldn't have to do this, Like I'm owed you know, and we see this so much in our society, right, Like I'm outraged. Everybody's outraged about everything now, it's like everything everything, And it's like, well, that's your outrage.

17:37 Your shirt offends me, your shirt is triggering me. I have to tell you, I've been meaning to say it since the beginning of the interview. Your shirt is triggering me. But that's how people are outrage culture.

17:48 It's insane, right, And so but what I didn't I didn't realize was it. Well, it took me a couple of weeks and I finally was like, you can be mad about this all you want to, but the reality is you still got to do it for yourself. You're the person who's been engaging in these behaviors. You're the person who was doing the drugs, who was doing all the stuff, and you're the person who's gotten yourself to where you are now, So what are you going to do about it? And it was two part for me, One with having to deal with addiction and like hardcore drugs pretty much everything, and then smoking three packs a day and drinking every clear straight like I'm a go big or go home kind of girl, right, And so

18:24 I had to physically come off of all of that stuff. But then simultaneously I'm navigating and dealing with this. I hated the license perception, I hated the visuals. I hated the knowing. I didn't want to be this way. And so it was two part. I had been doing the drugs because it was the only thing that finally kind of jummed me enough. It took that edge off, right, But it's not conducive or sustainable for health and life, right, And so what I did is I just wrote down kind of like a little program for myself and I started I got to just move my body again because back in high school I was a big runner, and so I started exercising again. And then kicking alcohol was pretty easy for me. Kicking like the heavy drugs that

19:08 was that was a thing, and I just like flushed them and did several weeks of hardcore withdrawals by myself.

19:14 Wow, he white knuckled it.

19:16 Yeah, I white knuckled it. It was ugly. It was really ugly, but I knew because I had just I mean, you can't. I if I was to continue that, I would obviously die and stay dead, right, Like, there's nothing else for me there, I turned over every rock, I had all of the experiences, and you take it where it is. But ultimately I cleaned myself up and I was able to stabilize significantly. And then I left the Midwest and I went to Florida.

19:45 H Yeah, because there's there's no drugs there. I can say this because I lived in Florida. But it just never made movies about that or anything.

19:59 Well Miami.

20:00 Nothing about Miami in the seventies or eighties at all. And that's about the time you.

20:07 Nineties.

20:11 Yeah, you know, we we were talking before and we're like, yeah, You're like, yeah, I was in the I was in Miami in the nineties. I'm like, I was in Miami in the nineties. Like I was going to South Beach and clubing. We probably were in the same club at one point or another. I was on the table, I was drinking water in the corner because I was always the digited driver. So funny. So it's it's so far so you you're still dealing with I mean, you're first of all, impressive. Is all hell that you did what you did and what you went through. And I've known a lot of addicts. I've known a lot of people who dealt with drugs and with alcohol, and I know from watching closely how hard that is to do it by yourself, and white knuckling, not in a facility, not

21:01 with any support, says volumes about your spirit, and says volumes about you and what you're going through in this life and why you were primed to do what you're doing. In many ways, it's interesting because in many ways you you chose to come into a world as a soul in this incarnation and you and I'm sure you've had help along the way, but you but a lot of it seems like it's just you're doing it. You're like, I got to make this happen for me because no one's coming. No one's going to say I have no I have no safety net.

21:37 Correct.

21:38 So you've basically burned you were when you were born. They burned the boats at the shore. There's no one come and help you. So that's a really interesting place to be as a soul journey because there's only one way. It's through.

21:55 Yeah, Well, or you could heart eject, right, you can, you can, you can do a heart out. What it is I swear is I'm just I've kind of one of the things I very much appreciate about growing up in the Midwest, especially in the era that we did get her done. Man like bots, you got to figure it out. And the fact that nobody was there, And it wasn't just that nobody was there, it was actually unsafe to be around the people that were there. It created this It's.

22:26 Not that they don't support you, it's dangerous.

22:28 This hyper awareness and this hypersoft sufficiency. And so ultimately there's a stubbornness and I have this ability to just kind of figure it out.

22:38 Right, your gen X, So there's that.

22:40 Yeah, and today's my birthday, birthday here with you, but yeah, I know that's that's our generation.

22:50 Yeah, you just figure it out.

22:51 You just figure it out, you know. I mean, do you remember that commercial where they're like, at ten o'clock at night.

22:56 Do you know where your kids?

22:57 You know where your kids are?

22:58 Do you know where your kids? Actually showed it to my kids really to prove it to them. They're like, you know, they had to actually put on the news every night it's ten o'clock. Do you know where your kids are? And they're like, no way. So I went on YouTube and I found it and they're like and saut. Celebrities like Sydney Lauper and Madonna and all them. They all come up to you know where your kids are, and they're like you are you like kidding? And then they saw stranger things and like is that real? Like other than the monsters. Yes, yeah, it was very accurate as far as that's how it was. Like you leave the house and good luck. I don't even comprehend that with my kids.

23:33 Right, And there was no like electronic tracking, right, so we're just out there feral.

23:38 From dontel treated food. You'll find it somewhere, Drink it from the hose. You'll find food somewhere. You never had money because they broke.

23:48 Everybody's bikes are at your front, your friends.

23:50 That's the only way you knew. Those lights came on and you weren't home. It was it's it seems cliche, but it's the way it was. But our generation is really interesting because we just just figure it out because we were kind of trained, and you more so because you really didn't have any support, so you had to figure everything right. But that primed you for life. It did in a way. It was not fun ways, not at all.

24:16 I wouldn't wish it on anybody, And ultimately it has allowed me the fortitude to not only become who I become energetically in my understanding of my gifts and my ability to use my lips, but to be able to work for fifteen years in the niem one systems, the busiest systems of California, and take high energy perception into the trenches the streets. And so I have this unique ability to be ultra sensitive to energy yet still be able to go to the depths of the human consciousness and life experience repeatedly and not there's the fortitude needed for that nervous system warning needed for that. And honestly, all of my experience with addiction, with overdose, with promiscuity, with all of these things that I did made me

25:09 a better paramedic because I would run calls on people that were going through situations that I had personally been through. Now you can feel it when people have been there, you know, you can just feel it when people have been there, oh yeah, And so there's that sense of like, all right, we're all right, we're going to get through this.

25:27 And all of those years of becoming a running calls as a paramedic primed me to become an even stronger healer, right, because everything, it's like bricks and mortar, it builds on itself.

25:39 So I have to ask you, I mean, when you're I mean, I have very little experience with paramedics. I had a friend of mine who was a paramedic, so I kind of early on out of high school, so I kind of understand a little bit. I've seen movies, of course, and TV shows and stuff, and there's some very accurate ones like the Pit and things like that, which is freaking amazing. But it's a very high stress scenario.

26:04 You're literally walking into. I don't know what I could I'm here to help, but I could be attacked, correct, I could be I could be stabbed, that could be. I mean, you hear these yeah and then yeah, and then I've had relatives, a lot of doctor in the family, so I understand that aspect of it, that stress and that intensity energy, when you're kind of wide open energetically, how do you deal Because that alone is a thing.

26:35 Just walking around the earth being open and seeing people's auras and feeling people's energies and seeing things, that's a thing. But then walking into the most intense human experience, you know, of a stabbing, or of an overdose, or of a violent scenario, and and you walk into it. How did you back? Like, how the hell did you deal with both things right and thrive? Because you did this for fifteen right.

27:06 Well, so when I had a great, great question when I left Florida, I moved to Los Angeles, and I was just kind of stumbling around.

27:13 As most people don't move to Los Angeles. Does my stuff included?

27:17 And my intuition, I just remember I was like working at a gym, and you know, I was still kind of in this place. But my intuition every time an ambulance would go by, was like this, do this. And I was living in a Koreatown area before it got you know, refurbished. Now it's really pretty now, oh yeah, but it wasn't at the time. And I remember I was laying on my mattress on the floor and I heard like shots fired right outside. Little footsteps run right past my Yeah, and welcome.

27:49 Exact studio apartment, You're like, And so I peek out, and I go to the fire escape and I look down, and of course I see the body on the ground, right, Oh, my and my intuition, and so everybody's coming LAPD and you know, la fire and everybody, and my intuition's like this, this is what.

28:09 You should do.

28:10 And I remember just going and weighing on my mattress and I was like, I surrender, Okay, fine.

28:14 You know, because I still was so lost in floundering. But I'm like again, kind of had hit a bottom period where we think that it's just going to be this, you know, when you start to recover from addiction and you take care of all the sense of rocket ship and everything just ascends and all the sense is perfect and it's not. And the grit is the willingness to continue to go ride the waves of up and down right.

28:40 And so I was in the place and I finally surrendered, and I was like, okay. So I went to the UCLA e MT program and I went through that. I had never been in a militaristic environment before, so that was very abrupt for me. I'd been in the pin up modeling world and like, you know, I was like in that whole crazy world, like in Hollywood stuff, and so going into the first responder militant type environment, it was, yeah, a different thing. For me, I went, they assigned me.

29:10 My first assignment was down to south central Los Angeles and so I went in the nineties in the Greater Compton Inglewood. Yeah, I know, it was go Bigger, go home, I remember right now. Remember at this time, I was still very closeted, so I was still not willing to talk out loud about my abilities. And so I finally was in a socially accepted position. Okay, I'm going to do something that can become an esteemed career. So all right, So when I got on the ambulance, you have to understand there's a tremendous amount of mechanics that go to and I'm on one call. So there's logistics of location, there's extracation, there's how many patients do we have? And then you have all of us, and all of us have a specific role that go on that. So for

29:54 the first six weeks or so, maybe six months, my energy, the energetics and the intuition and kind of downshifted. And I think that was my guidance being gracious to give me time to give my bearings and understand like, oh, the captain's the guy with the clipboard, the engineers the dude standing out of the engine outside the house. You know, everybody's got a role. It's a very alpha, very testosterone charged environment. I thrive in that, like it's very intense.

30:22 You have to like it's sink or swim, and I like that type of environment. And to me, running a nine one one call, it became like putting a puzzle piece back together really quickly and under a tremendous amount of pressure, which my system, again is primed to do.

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30:49 But about six months later, when I'm like, okay, groovy, I understand how to run a call, where to take a patient, all the things, then all of a sudden, the high sense perception started coming back and I did not one. I was so mad. I was like, just leave me alone.

31:03 I'm doing fine doing the thing.

31:05 Man like a bit in finally kind of I'm always around swat dude, So I'm not going to talk about like I see dead people or I see colors or.

31:14 It's basically marines. You're like walking around with marines. Like, hey, so your aura, like when you were shooting that ak, like your aura was a little dark. You know, you don't want to do that.

31:29 It's what it was a little little yeah, probably wouldn't have been super well, especially in the early two thousands, right God.

31:36 And so my my primary challenge was not understanding what would happen to me? Was this spontaneous expansion. And so it's like take a take a dial and turn up the gain and all of the sensory and put around comes and all of a sudden, my energy really expands. So I feel very large, and it's hard for me to separate what's mine, what's other people's. Where it is the end of the scene, you know, that kind of thing.

32:01 And so my primary challenge all the way from seven until I got a real handle and understanding on what this is, why I'm like this, how to navigate it was this spontane I didn't have a sense of control, I didn't have a sense of safety, so I didn't understand it. I still feared it, and I still tried to push it down. That said, when we like on the first CPR call, my my experience would be and this happened every single time. My tail for death is tasting metal and very I have a tell for death, so I became what's called a black cloud, and black clouds in our industry are the people who get all the really gnarly calls. I became the paramedic who was always there for death and so pose no, no, no, it's just some people get we gets randomly assigned.

32:50 Calls would go, someone's going down, you get the tones right, and I would just get this set and I would taste metal.

33:01 So what would happen on a call, though, is everything would slow down like the matrix. So from the second I opened the ambulance door, my feet hit the ground, I had my little combat boots. Everything would just go and it would go very very slow. So then you know, and then I know, And so what would happen for me is every single detail starts happening simultaneously. Like I can see the drip of sweat coming down the firefighter's you know, face is trying to extricate the body from the car, and I could hear whoever. You know. It's like all of the sensory information would expand from me and I would have a knowing of what was coming.

33:38 And so what ended up happening is I was able to be there in so many people's transitions so many people during their last moments on earth, and to me it became midwifing. It was such an incredible, incredible gift and like honor, like a death. It's a death duel, except the emergency style, right, And I had no idea like what I was doing energetically, and so it was just such an interesting space and feeling to be because I was still wrestling with this one part of myself.

34:11 But the high sense perception would spontaneously expand every single time I'd go on a call, and what I started to pay attention to was that it was really helpful. Never one time was it like remember I was told I was ashamed, like don't talk about this, this is bad. But whatever this knowing is or whatever these visions are that are telling me what to do, it's giving me guidance that's going to help the family calm down, it's giving me guidance that's going to help the patient calm down.

34:40 And so I was able to be there in people's worst moments, utilizing these high sense perception over and over and over and over again. And that's how ultimately I began to challenge like, wait a second, maybe maybe I was sold a loadable when I was a kid. Maybe there's nothing thing wrong with me. Maybe this is actually good and I can actually really help people. And that really turned the tide for me becoming empowered.

35:08 So when you're you're in Los Angeles and LA does have some woo will win it. Yep, there are some bookshops you can go to, even in the early two thousands. So you did not go and look for books or look for a center or a spiritual community. Nothing. White knuckle in it again.

35:29 I guess that's just kind of how I roll.

35:30 You know you do.

35:31 But I'm very much about like figure it out, like figure it out. I think that I wasn't on a personal level. I was not yet ready to delve into my own inner trauma and what it actually takes to go through and somatically release the trauma that I had been through. It's not an easy thing to do.

35:54 Those calls help.

35:55 You, yeah, because what ended up happening was I was using my past right to be able to show up for other people who were experiencing similar situations. And I was like, ah, I got you, I get it, and they can feel it, and they can feel it.

36:07 Yeah, you can feel authenticity. Oh totally. You can feel. You can feel it's like a vet meeting another vet. I've seen that. I have friends of mine who are Vets, and then I'll be hanging out and they'll be wearing their like hat like war they were in Iraq war or something like that. And then you just see some random guy just walk up what you knew you in Yeah, and they're like oh this and that. I'm like, oh this, I did this too, And you could just there's that.

36:33 You could just tell that you've oh yeah, that's yeah, they've been there.

36:36 It see energetics a subconscious programming.

36:38 Well, I mean you come from la and I know you had a little experience in the film industry as well. There's a version of that for us in the film industry. Like you when you win a director or a DP or a gaffer or anyone who's got shrapnel walks on the set, you go, oh, yep, yep, yep, I can you smell it. I always used to tell people. I'm like, if you're a young director and you walk on a set with a bunch of vets, they'll smell you within the first two to three minutes of you even speaking.

37:10 Oh totally, and that will determine the rest of your day and the production totally because if they feel that you don't know what they do, they will roll all over you. Oh yeah, all over you totally. And it's something similar with what you're doing. So it's interesting. So all right, so let me let's go into a call.

37:26 I want to I want to kind of dive into a call here. So, and we've been talking about the psychic abilities and more the intuitive and the energy that you've been doing. Are you also a medium because I.

37:35 Know you I have that capacity, it's not my primary. My primary now is clairvoyance, clare sentience, so seeing, feeling, knowing, and then my practice now is medical intuition and psychic surgery. And so when it comes to mediumship, if you want to dial somebody specific, it's like, nah, maybe you did and miss.

37:52 With that, But for me, I'm like, is uncle Bob here energetic? Energetic Bob? All right? Because I know that I've asked this a quest, like you could be a psychic without being a meeting, but you can't be a meeting without being a psychic, right right? Generally speaking? Okay, because you're talking about seeing people in their transition. So let's go into a call. Yeah, that someone passes, what do you see? Okay? Is it different for everyone?

38:17 Well? Yes, So now, first and foremost, please understand the most important thing is there's nothing to fear. Death is absolutely inevitable for all of us. It is just like it's as natural as birth, and none of us know when it's coming. So there's so many people that are so scared to live. They bubble wrap themselves and they do all these things right, and the fear really cheats them out of their life experience a lot of times.

38:43 So what I'm here to tell you and remind you is please live your life. We are born to die. There's as many ways to die as there are to live. There's literally nothing to fear. It's like taking off a heavy coat. Sometimes it may hurt, but it's only briefly, and you will always be greeted by something or someone. Okay, So you're never going to die alone, even if you're physically alone, because you will be greeted by a loved one, by a celestial by master. Yeah, some sort of Jesus.

39:11 She's the hardest working Jesus, hardest working man show business. He shows up to all the nds you didn't see, so you didn't I didn't see.

39:18 You heard I heard a voice. There was a female voice. Yeah, but I mean in plant medicine ceremonies.

39:24 I've we'll get it today into we'll get into I'm dying to see what you saw in a plant ceremony.

39:31 I'm dying here that Okay. Now this is really interesting because what I started to notice is that there's a difference between a medical or an expected death like a hospice and stage cancer slowly versus a trauma death, okay, And so what happens to the soul and their experience and transition was very different. And so it was interesting because I saw so many deaths that I started to notice commonalities. Mind you, at the time, Initially, by the end of my career, I was open about what I was doing. My coworkers were like, ah, it's just her, you know, and we're.

40:06 Cool with it.

40:06 But at the beginning, I still was really scared and didn't understand. But what I noticed, in say like a medical depth, person's chilling in their bed or you know, on their couch whatever, and for maybe a few days or a few weeks, their oric field begins to expand they start getting visited by loved ones. They may start astral traveling. Now what is that. It's the veil thinning.

40:28 So what does the veil thinning mean? So here in human paradigm, we've got gravity duality, the five senses, and the egoic infrastructure perfectly designed to have our little independent human experience. Right, So as the body begins to release, the oric field expands and kind of thins on the boundaries.

40:49 So these safeguards that are normally in place just open and let the information through. That's always there. All of this energy is always around all of us. You got, but it's the senses and you know, the egoic infrastructure that it's designed this way to kind of allow us to have the life experience. Okay, so they're going through days, weeks, whatever, and their heart rate will finally kick out, and then the respirations go through kind of agonal respirations, which is like guppy breathing. And what I would notice is it was really beautiful and sometimes it was fast, sometimes it was slow, sometimes it was more vibrant, but it was always a similar pattern. So the uh chakras would begin to unfurl and it looks like ribbons, okay, usually beginning

41:36 at the root and it unfurls all the way up through the crown. And so I began to understand way to sect this is the light at the end of the tunnel experience, because I'm watching the person die physically and then I'm watching what their energy body is doing in terms of releasing it. And so it would very slowly unfurl like a ribbon, and the soul would typically shoot out the crown of the head into the top right corner of the room, normally where they'd be greeted by to see slept ones or pets or some sort of religious archetype or deity, and so it was really did you see this?

42:10 Yeah?

42:10 I would see it over and over and over again. And so they would come out and when they would release the crown of the head, sometimes every once in a while out the chest, but usually out the crown of the head, It's like a water gun, right, And sometimes like if people had a lot of spunk and pizzazz and hardiness, there would still be color. And some people were like, I'm over it, man, it was just like a wisp. But regardless, they would reform and the soul looks like the person embody just you can see through it. And I would get to watch this little family reunion right up in the corner. And you don't share death experiences, that's a thing.

42:46 That's the thing. So there's a near death experience and they just share death experience. And I've had many people on who had share in the medical field, hospice nurses.

42:54 Yeah, that's what we do, man, And they.

42:56 Sit there and they actually experience the near debt you're viewing it. They actually are out of their body for a second and they're kind of like seeing it from the astrol. Yeah, will yeah through that problem and not part of it. Sometimes every once in a while they'll go to a certain point and they can't go past that.

43:15 That that that point in no return, and then they'll come back in. But you're kind of doing a version of shared death experience again again.

43:23 Yeh, that makes sense. And then having to tend to like the physical body. If if it was a protocol that we would still need to run a CPR or think there were still all the logistics and mechanics that I would have to handle there. But if it was like a do not resuscitate or an n stage hospice and we're there to just declare death whatever. I would still go through that experience and then understand and then do a pronouncement of death.

43:43 So did you So when these are happening and you're watching Jesus or Uncle Bob show up. Further, I didn't have an Uncle Bob. I just think it's funny. It's and Jane and Uncle Bob. I don't know why, but uncle Bob. People say, put it on a T shirt, like I see Uncle Bob. I'm like, okay, okay. But so when you're going through this and you're seeing this, was there any moment that they acknowledge you?

44:09 Oh?

44:09 Yeah, really?

44:11 Oh yeah, yeah. That's the stories about that in my book. And it's literally like, so it's telepathy, right, the ability to communicate through thought form. And so because whether it's it's just my wiring, it's any intuitive any medium whoever, like the spirit for whatever reason, recognizes that we have the capacity to see them, okay, And so there oftentimes was a little bit of a brief like nod right, Sometimes they do a little dance. Sometimes they would yeah, And it was really beautiful to watch how happy these people were to be freed, a lot of them from their bodies. So again, very beautiful experience, nothing to fear.

44:50 And then we'll come over to the trauma death because so it's very mechanically intact over here, very similar now with the trauma death. The world we live, man, we never know, right, And this is why I just might the biggest takeaway you guys, please please please just go live your lives. Just do it, say the thing, take the trip, tell the person you love them, like, take the chance, do it because we never know. Everybody thinks they've got time. But every single morning, every single day, I would run calls on somebody who just got killed and they had no idea.

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45:36 Oh man, they're coming. You know, you go through a Starbucks drive through, I'm like, you pull out and you just get t boned and that's it, like, or you're just in a car accident, or you're shot or whatever like. And so in a trauma death, what would happen would be that say it was a vehicle accident and with extircations, so the body's in the car a lot of logistics for us to navigate that. And so I would see the soul of the person standing next to or floating.

46:01 Just above the car.

46:02 They look like the body that's in the car. And so I would very quickly. And this took years to develop because at first I was like, ah, you know, I didn't know, and I had a lot of things to do. There's a lot of things to do on a trauma call, for like tending to the body and getting them to the hospital. And so over time though, I would look and I would acknowledge the soul and I developed kind of a protocol and it was like, Okay, look, you're dead, you were just in a car accident. I'm gonna play your body of the car. We're gonna start a CPR, I'm gonna get you the hot teleopathically while I'm over there cutting clothes off and start in id's and doing all of this style. And so it's a very like maximum, I mean everything, We're doing everything. I got,

46:41 you know, five six firefighters with me and police officers with me. And so what would happen in a trauma call would be that the person is confused because they're like I was just walking down the sidewalk, man, like what you know, they're looking at their body that's on the on the ground in the curb, at the gutter, and they don't get it because they're literally in your body and then you're knocked out of your body.

47:04 Is it? Is it kind of Patrick Swayze and Ghost It is kind.

47:07 Of Patrick you're Swayze And because that's exactly Yeah, it's exactly.

47:10 They got a lot of things right in that movie. But that sounds exactly like for the Trump for the trauma ones, not the not the slower death ones, but the trauma one.

47:19 Right, the Trumps just like super confusing to people.

47:22 Is that where ghosts come from.

47:25 Well we'll talk about that in just a second. Okay, Okay, let's get through the protocol. So essentially, what would end up happening is nine times out of ten, if somebody is killed and we have to start CPR on a trauma, they more often they don't really come back. It's very rare that we actually get pulses back and you know, full cognitive function, et cetera. And so we would I'd be communicating with the person as we're doing this, and what would happen on a trauma call. It was interesting.

47:51 I thought this was really interesting. It was always a celestial it was always an angel now and it started like fireflies and it would be next to so imagine the scene. Okay, we got a crumpled car, we got a body of a car, we got a soul floating, we got all of us coming up to like handle that, and then it started like fireflies. And to me, an angel isn't like this winged creature with like flowing. Yeah, it's never helped.

48:16 I love the way your voice just showed it. It's a weird creature, spiritual. I love that.

48:26 It was.

48:26 It's a frequency, you guys. All of this is just frequency. It's all just energy. Okay, there's a consciousness associated with celestials, and it just is the most nurturing, calming, loving, amazing energy ever. Usually eight to twelve feet tall. The big ones are twelve feet, but usually around eight to twelve feet cobalt blue, very very gentle, very compassionate. If there was features which I often didn't see, it was very androgynous, very beautiful. But they never say anything. They're just there to like just coated the entire chaotics scene of crazy with this really beautiful calm, and then the person who had just died would be like, what is this right?

49:09 And I would watch them sometimes well yeah, sometimes yeah. It was just very very gentle. There was kind of this understanding. It's not like they came and you know, no, there's no snatching. You're not going to be snatched by anything, especially anything dark. We'll talk about that too, But it was this gentle coming to understanding, gentle like, okay, wait a second, I guess I just died. And then they would turn and they would embrace and disappear. And so at that time I knew that we would be running a CPR, you know, to the hospital.

49:42 So the body could still be alive while this is going on.

49:47 Yeah, if they were still connected by like a spider web, or they would just one little silver string of data that's connecting the body to the soul. And once that snaps, then you have to understand that the heart doesn't just stop. It goes down and kicks out, and then the respirations go down and kick out.

50:05 Usually did you ever see anything like that and revive them, Yes, but rarely. But in other words, you saw them standing the angel came or.

50:14 No, most of the time. If the angel came, they were gone.

50:16 That's that's like. So if they're just standing there, they're like, and no one's coming.

50:21 There may be a chance.

50:22 There may there still may be a chance, but it could go.

50:24 It could go either way. But again with trauma calls, you have to understand that the practicality and pragmatics of and I will one call and understand CPR and getting you know, actual return of sponging use circulation with cognitive intact is very very rare on people that have been in trauma docks.

50:41 I mean I watched the pit. So yes, I understand all everything you just said. I just said everything that I could do this right now, let's go, we could run a call. It's fine, It's fine completely. So it's so you were you mentioned something about dark. I know that's a lot of fear a lot of people have of like so going back to ghost, Yeah, the dark experience that came and pulled the bad gun down. Oh my god, can you imagine. But that's the one place that got wrong because I've never heard in all of my experiences, in all of my conversations, that doesn't.

51:15 It doesn't happen.

51:16 It's not a thing. You're not going to. Dark angels not coming. I've heard of hellish near death experiences which are self induced subconsciousness and to you because of the program you had, and then you always have a way out and generally all of them Jesus shows up, an angel shows up, someone shows as soon as they ask for it. So I'm glad. I want you to clear that fear for people because of people, because of all the dogma and all the crap that were thrown on that.

51:42 You're like, if you did you know, if you did this, the dark angels coming or death is coming for you.

51:48 No.

51:48 No, I've saw hundreds of deaths and what hundreds of dead bodies and.

51:54 Some probably not the most most kind souls. No, No, some of them might have been. And then the darker doing dark stuff.

52:01 Yeah, I mean that's part of the human paradigm, right all there's parts for all of it. But I never one time saw a dark entity come snatch a soul away ever, right, Okay, So there's nothing to fear in that. And my understanding with ghosts is sometimes we disembody. So if there is a self induced death, sometimes we disembody and there may be a little bit of curriculum left, whether it's karma curriculum or some sort of balancing integration type curriculum from higher assignment, and the person then can spend the rest of their incarnation cycle as it kind of in between as a ghost, if you will. Now it's not just maybe if you had a little bit more to learn or balancing some karma stuff. Some people

52:47 are just really dang attached, Like I like this house, damn it, I'm not leaving.

52:51 It's like okay, and the angel shows up and to like get with that stuff next. You know how much property values are. I'm in la Are you want you this cow? Cost kind of thing? Right, right, I've heard this. I've heard this that these are people who a lot of times I've heard that ghosts are they don't know they're dead, No, they just they literally are just embodied, like I'm just living alive, Like why are these people in my house? Get them out of here? You know, like that other that old movie The Others with Nicol Kinman, But they thought maybay the ghosts, but it was the other way around. All that kind of stuff. So it's that the way you understand as well for ghosts.

53:30 Yeah, oftentimes for sure. Also, my understanding is that there are no fragments that are left behind. Ultimately everything integrates into the hole. And so at some point there can be you know, maybe a medium comes and like, yo, you're dead, you know, or someone like yourself feel like me and be like do this little triosh thing that I do with them, and just tell them because again, if they don't know, or if they're attached to a person or a place or something, all of it's okay.

53:55 And ultimately everything ultimately integrates. Everything as far as I've been able to perceive, ultimately integrates. And it's not like two weeks from Tuesday or like you know, it's the time. The linear structure doesn't exist in higher planes. And so some people are, wow, how long does this last? Or you know, it's we can't quantify it like that because when you're in the heightened state, everything's happening simultaneously. So you're in that state, and then ultimately the ghost will have ghost spirit will have an invitation. Yo, you know, here here's an opportunity to transition.

54:33 And again I'll go back to ghost. That's exactly what happened to Patrick, you know, Trick, Patrick, God bless his heart was his soul. But when he passed in the movie, a light came, an invitation came. He's like, but yep, no I got and he had to deal with everything he dealt with and when he was done dealing with it, he left. That's it, he was, I did my work.

54:53 I need to solve my murder. Yeah, you know, setend me. He's Demi Moore. I don't want to leave, right, you know, you're in the nineties, they mean more in the nineties. I don't want to go anywhere. Are you getting you know? And she's like, that's Patrick Swayze in the nineties, like yeah, you know, so you know, it's it's interesting. So that with the ghost thing is is interesting because the anger, like you hear angry goes, hauntings and things like that.

55:17 They could just be like get out of my head.

55:18 Yeah, totally. Isn't it funny how it's always the same thing with light flickering and like throwing books and candles. I'm like, can you guys come up with something else?

55:25 A little?

55:26 Yeah, I don't think they have the ability to do something else, you know, Like you know, but it's but it's interesting. So it's not that they're evil. They're just evil. A concept evils this concept here. Yeah, there is nothing like that there from your understanding. On the other side, there are from what I understand, there are lower energies, oh for sure. Yeah, so it's not like evil spirits, but there is lower energies have that that have chosen to stay where they are. Everyone has the ability to evolve at certain point. It's not hell or anything like that.

55:56 But even in the astral realm. Even Yogi's talk about that, and they're littered in their books. They're like, yeah, if you're in the astro realm and there's multiple levels and all this kind of stuff, but there are lower levels, yeah, of souls who just don't want to or they're addicted to the negative energy or something like that.

56:14 Is that what you want and everything serves a purpose. So I have to understand a lot of times what I see in the spiritual community is kind of a light chasing or like the good vibes only only want to feel good kind of thing, And it's a misunderstanding oftentimes of the nature of duality. There's nothing to fear in darkness, because if we didn't have darkness, we couldn't have light. We have to have the equal opposite correct and my personal lived experience is the more willing I've been to go into and own my own darkness, my own shadow, my own fear, my own behaviors and characteristics, my own trauma, that gives me the access to the equal opposite amount of light. So people are wanting this like high vibe experience and trying to like come up

56:58 out of the bodies all of these different practices, which it's amazing. There's a lot of great ways out there, and don't there's nothing to fear in darkness. It's part of the human paradigm. The more we understand it, the more that we own our side of it, our part in it, then what happens is we are given access to both.

57:20 Let me ask you this, so not recently, but it seems like a lot more recently, there's been a lot of spiritual teachers who have fallen some grace, some very large ones. Yes, and doesn't negate their teachings. It doesn't negate the good they've done in the world. But it seems like what you just said trigger something in me that said, well, it's because they didn't address the dark in them. They didn't want to go to that, and then they fell into ego, or they fell into power structures or things like that, which are all traps, even for the most spiritually class. I always say the spiritual ego is one of the worst.

58:00 There's more ego in the spiritual world than the fire Department, and that's because those guys got calendars and parades. I've been in the spiritual world around twenty years now, and there's a lot of really beautiful, well meaning, well intentioned people, and there's so many different beautiful practices and modalities. And for me my experience, I was closeted. I didn't want anything to do with this. When I finally surrendered, when I finally was like, Okay, there's got to be a reason I'm like this. I'm using it to help people in their worst moments. This can't be bad. What do I do for me? I began with meditation. I got into meditation circles and communities, and I went into yoga.

58:38 Then I went into Kundalini. Then I went into mediumship, and then I went I was reiki and all these different energy healing practice.

58:45 Oh yeah, yeah, I like to explore.

58:47 I want to dabble right. For me, my most profound healing and integration areas were going to be shamanism in plant medicine ceremonies, in addition to the medical intuition training in the psychosurgery training that I ultimately got. But all of these are branches of similar trees or the same tree. And what I kept seeing over and over again are people giving power easily to like whatever this guru or whoever this persicular culture, but give their power away. When I advocate for you, guys, I believe this is my belief.

59:24 Always take what resonates and let go of what doesn't.

59:26 Okay.

59:27 I believe that we are all our own best teacher and healer, and I believe that you are the guru of your own life. And I advocate please retain your personal power. Go explore, go experience, and take what resonates, let go of what doesn't. Be mindful to maintain your personal power, because there's a lot of people very large egos in the spiritual world and they're they're wanting that, and so it's all what it is. But I really believe that the more willing you are to just kind of stay within self and hold your own personal power.

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1:00:15 I mean, that's that's the key, man, because it's like you have your power, I have my power. Each individual has their power. And what I love doing now more than anything is helping people remember that, right. It's like I don't want you power, man, like I don't need that. I have my own, and I want you to remember yours so that you can feel good and you can be healthy and you can change your patterns and behaviors and lives.

1:00:35 I mean, it's basically what I mean. It's as simple as what Christ said back in the day. The power of the Kingdom of heavens within you. You everything I can do, you can do it more. Yeah, I mean he didn't want the pomp and circumstance that's around him right now totally, which is what I That's what we do all the time here Next Level Soul, which we want people to understand the power is within them. Now.

1:01:01 You can learn from a thousand different modalities and we do talch on all of We try to all of them. Yeah. Yeah, but it's not about giving your powerway to any individual. You might really love one modality, go for it, but never let go of your own yeah power, because there's always someone there to take it. No, oh, always someone there to take it. So before we go into the plant medicine, because I'm going your experiences in the plant medicine during your time as a paramedic, what is one of the craziest stories that you have that you're like, man, that was a that was a wild ride.

1:01:39 Oh gosh, there's so many different calls. But like I'll just give you the example from the beginning of the book. And I like sharing those real stories because I like bringing people into that visceral experience with me. And this one shattered me in some ways because you got to understand I was just trying to do my job, still didn't understand energies, didn't have anybody talk to about this stuff.

1:02:05 So imagine doing these things and seeing these things day after day and not being process so you can't process. I had young kids at the time, and it's like.

1:02:15 I got about that you also raising children while you're going through all of this insanity and going to the playparks with other moms.

1:02:21 We were talking about like nannies and petticures and I'm over here, like.

1:02:24 Yeah, I just saw someone fall off a built Like It's.

1:02:28 Like, yeah, totally not relatable as much. But so I was working at the time with my favorite partner, Kevin and who has since passed. Love him, and Kevin and I were just chilling. We had been slammed all day long and we were just having a dinner or whatever, and we got the call for a car accident. It was pretty late at night and we were almost off shifts, so I was mad because I wanted to go home.

1:02:53 But we got down the street and I wasn't thinking it was going to be a big thing, and I just see this this hummer in the intersections, white, got a big fancy grill.

1:03:01 Whatever.

1:03:01 It doesn't look like there's very much damage to it. So I was like, ah, whatever, is it just going to be a te bone or something. But then I see this huge debris field, right, it's just all these parts. And then way over here in the embankment is a tiny Honda Civic just crumpled, and so I knew at that minute, crap, that's my patient. And so firefighters going, we got to extricate stabilized jaws of life all the things, and so for me, I pop out of the ambulance, my boots hit the ground. I go into full matrix style, like right, and everything is coming at me. As I'm walking, I can only hear my breath going in and out.

1:03:36 And this girl was only like seventeen oh and seventeen eighteen, and she was trapped in pinned from femurs down under the steering column which had been crumpled over her. But the impact was so severe that her body went into the passenger side and her head was in the back. So this poses an extrication and an airway issue for us because we have to reach our airway to keep her because she was doing that guppy breathing thing. But I remember, I'll never forget. She was just staring straight at the ceiling in her eyes with this beautiful emerald green and I just remember looking at her like she's just a baby, right, And she was there, she was she was on her phone, turned in the corner and that was it, and they were stabilizing the car. And

1:04:20 I'm the smallest person on scene, and so I have to reach in and I'm trying to like breathe for her. We have tubes and things that we can stick in people's smells and throats, and so we're trying to stabilize and put a cervical collar and figure out the way to extricate.

1:04:34 And so I was.

1:04:35 Breathing here for her, and I saw the spider web and I saw her soul just floating right at the top of the car here, and she was looking around like what, you know, what's going on? And I was like, oh, you know, you've been in a car accident. I'm here to help you. I'm going to get your body out of the car. And this is telepathic, of course, not we're laying that, but I'm doing everything necessary to stabilize her physical body. And then finally when they got the jaws of life and they were able to hoist up the steering column off that was holding her blood pressure intact. Okay, I saw her blood pressure plummeted. And so it was at the time right when they released the steering column.

1:05:14 And you have to understand, there's the smell of gasoline mixed with blood. There's like sparks coming from the saw, from the jaws of life. There's you got like eight of us with extrication team and you know, fire department, police and everybody that's there. And as soon as they released so she had been floating here. I was talking to her, talking to her telepathically. I'm breathing with her through the window. And as soon as right when they were pulling the steering column off, there's the fireflies. There's the fireflies, which was the celestial frequency coming in. As soon as they lifted, blood pressure plummets, heart rate kicks out.

1:05:55 She's done, and hear that little spider web snaps, and so I watch her fully form. So standing now above the car, looking at the angel, and so they I watched the merge. I still got my arms story, I'm all scraped up. I got a glass at my hair. We have all kinds of stuff happening on scene. And we had to pull her out. Once they opened up the car door. We had to pull her out, put her on the backboard, start the IDs in and be and get her all the way to the hospital, which they declared her dead just you know, five or ten minutes later. So it's this like full capacity sensory experience.

1:06:31 And then you go back and then you got to give the doctor, the trauma doctor and the nurses this turnover report. Everything is extremely fast paced and extremely intense. And there was two things that really hit me. One was that the police came and said they wanted to know if she made it. No, she didn't make it.

1:06:54 She was on the phone with her boyfriend. He was two blocks away in a restaurant about to propose.

1:07:00 Oh Jesus, oh my god.

1:07:04 When her cell phone cut out and he heard sirens. He came, oh no, and he watched us pull her out.

1:07:13 Oh so that hit hard. And then I have kids, Yeah, were they around that ege? No, mine were young at the time, but still.

1:07:22 And then the nurse, God bless her. I'll just never forget because you have to remember I was just a hot mass. I'm covered in blood, I'm scraped out, a glass in my hair, I'm doing my job like I'm all in it, and this nurse just turns on her heel and she just looks at us and it's like, why do you even transport her? Like why do you even print her hair? There's no empathy and it just went there was like and I just went to the bathroom in the earms started bombing because I was like, what am I supposed to do with this?

1:07:49 Wow?

1:07:50 Fifteen years of.

1:07:51 That I have to ask you, you know, dealing with I mean, and I understand you have the the psychic thing going on, and the psychic thing going on, and you've got the I see the energies and the angels and all. I know you had that side of you. Yes, we do. But you're still a human being and you had fifteen years of seeing death all the time and seeing humanity at it's the worst of humanity at the worst time of their lives or shortly thereafter then not their lives. How did you process it without anybody to talk to about it, because it doesn't sound like you had You're not talking, You're not going through therapy or anything like that at the time, not at the time, eventually, but during that time just processing that. Like I mean,

1:08:42 I have family members who are in the healthcare field and nothing is extreme as what you're doing, and they had to just process just being in a hospital period like, not not even an emergency room, just like a hospital and they had the process stuff that they saw. So how did you even deal with How does it change you?

1:09:03 Oh?

1:09:03 Fundamentally changes us as people. And again, first responders were a different breed, you know, we run towards what everybody else runs away from. And so there's something within us and our wiring and thank God, thank God for us right like we're needed, especially in this world now because it's busy Now'm one one is always very busy for me at the time. I would go between working shifts in the streets on running nine one one, and I became a paramedic instructor, and so I would teach school, and so I would go between, and when I started to get too burned out from running the calls, I would teach more and then so I would kind of lateral back and forth with that, and that was a good day. That was my co And so I was

1:09:47 raising two small children and me being kind of the intense, like adrenaline junkie. It was about I start. I've always exercised a lot, you know, especially after I got healthy again, and so marathons, ultra marathons. Yeah, I was like elite level fitness for a couple of years. Like, so I was always kind of doing the higher intensity, but the physical exertion helped me to process through a lot of it.

1:10:15 And I still didn't get to the root of my own personal trauma and deal with the full magnitude of it until I got into my own somatic trauma therapy.

1:10:23 Right. So, because it's not only that you you came into that job with trauma, yeah, and a lot of baggage, and eternally you're like, I just you just shoved down somewhere. I don't want to deal with it. Then you start seeing that all of this, do you carry that with you? No, you know you were lucky you just let it go.

1:10:41 Well, and again, because we're wired differently, like I'm not looking at that like it's a person and this is just how we're trained. You have to understand there's no sense of like I'm looking at it like, oh, we have eleven bullet wounds, find the entry, find the exit, you.

1:10:55 Name.

1:10:55 We have to stabilize the body, stabilize the body. You're going and you're running the mechanics. So we run the mechanics with a huge team, and the team are usually dudes, and you know, it's it's a very intense, but it's a very fine tuned machine, like that of being a first responder, and so it's it's less about that and it's not the like the bloods and the blood and the guts, and the gore doesn't typically affect us. It's what humans do to each other. And it's always the mom, the mother screaming when she just lost her baby. Ah, that's the worst of the worst that pierces through you.

1:11:31 That's what stays with us.

1:11:32 So the closest I have had to anything that you're talking about. I had an experience once. I think I've ever spoken about this. I was driving in Orlando with a buddy of mine and we were going to a comic book convention. But my friend was a registered nurse. You saw a car accent or something car acent, he stopped because that's just instinct, and it was I'll never I mean, it's burned into my head. I can only mend you have thousands these in your head. I we got out, He's like, I gotta help. Two motorcycles ran right into one of them ran right into a van, like the front No, so the vans here. The motorcycle t bones the bodies off this So it was a father and son. The father is the one that t bones the son. I guess cliped something. But he was out.

1:12:31 I mean he was like, he was also hurt. But nothing is bad. When we got I'm getting chills just even thinking about this. When we got there, I had never experienced anything like it. And my my buddy went into nurse mode like he was. He was an R guy too, so he's like boomom boom, boom boom. And the guy's the father. It was purple. He was purple.

1:12:58 His face was purple. So they had taking the helmet off and they were trying. He was trying to revive them. And there's chaos and people yelling, and empt has not gotten there yet and cops haven't gotten there yet. It's like we didn't see it happened, but we might have been ten seconds fifteen seconds behind. And then the kid is sitting maybe fifty feet away and he's sitting on the ground bloody, but he's up and.

1:13:24 That he just lost his dad.

1:13:25 He's yelling at he's yelling for his dad, and the screams because no one was telling him anything because there's nobody there that knows what they're doing yet except my buddy, and the yells and the screams. I'll never forget it. He's like yelling for his father, yelling for it. I'll never forget that.

1:13:43 That's what stays with us.

1:13:45 That's what stays with you, isn't it? And and that was and then we got in our car, like as soon as the empty we just got in our car and left. But I can't imagine you're dealing with that not only once a day, dozens of times sometimes years.

1:14:00 And just remember that's how fast it happens. That guy had no idea, the idea. And so remind just the reminder to everybody, you guys, please live your lives. You know, please live your lives and celebrate and do what you want to do and do it.

1:14:15 What is the biggest lie you had believed about yourself that you dismissed?

1:14:21 Oh, that I was crazier? There was something wrong me. Man, if somebody would have told me twenty years ago, would I tell people now like sure would have shaved a lot of you know, time off my process. But I understand that I had to go through everything. I had to go through all the steps and stages to really understand and be able to integrate deeply fully embody and integrate self acceptance, groundedness with highcensed perception and you know, very intense energetic abilities.

1:14:50 Why do you believe that someone who had such a traumatic past, picks an extremely traumatic career. What do you believe that that experience those fifteen years did for your journey, because I know what you did for others and helping.

1:15:07 You know what it did, Alex. Honestly, you guys like we tend to be so self absorbed and so self focused, and we just start in our little bubbles living our lives, and a lot of us are like, poor me, right, And so I was like, poor me right, I've had this hard life, which I did genuine and you had a poor me I genuinely did.

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1:15:40 I genuinely believe that it should be mandated for people to have to write along to see what is actually happening. Right, there's the concept of what's happening, and then there's the reality of what's happening, and we as first responders in law enforcement, stand between the general population and that, and so having a good understanding and idea of what's actually happening.

1:16:01 It shows you you go outside of your bubble, you get to see different experiences, how different people live, different demographics, different socioeconomic background. It's completely different people than you, and it humbles you to the core. Because I realized, yeah, I had it rough Man icon. You could look at what I come through and you could be like, I get it, you know, and that pales in comparison to what some people go through. And I have been humbled by people that I have met out there on the streets and you look in their eyes and you see God because the clarity in some of them. I mean, it is all around us all the time. And if you're just in your little world so self focused and just trying to like maintain being so spiritual, and I

1:16:44 have to do it a certain way, and I put my pressure on myself to let's just be real, Okay, take yourself out, go talk to somebody. It's not like you try to have a conversation. Learn something about ways that other people are. So that's what I learned, Alex. It's not about me. It's not all about me, and we're all in this together, right, and some people are going through things that you could never even comprehend. So that's the biggest takeaway because I was able to see, like, yeah, all of this high sense perception stuff, I really wouldn't wish on a lot of people. And ultimately some of the things that I saw in the nine one one system, I was like, Wow, my life is cake in l a in La in the Bay Area too? Are Yeah?

1:17:24 Rough? Yeah, callis it's busy. It's not Fargo. It was wasn't It wasn't Fargo, North Dakota. Fargo, North Dakota.

1:17:34 Yeah.

1:17:35 I only know that access from watching the movie. I apologie. I'd never been. It is like that is it really is that? We don't? You know?

1:17:42 It comes out? You know what's funny is people are like, I can only tell you have an accent when you're on a call, because I guess it would come out on calls all of a sudden, the South Dakota accent on a call the most part. I got rid of that accent.

1:17:57 Yeah lord, how have to ask you though? So the angel energy I find very fascinated at any moment. Did you ever connect with those energies?

1:18:10 Connect how?

1:18:10 Like?

1:18:11 No?

1:18:11 Just like.

1:18:13 Hell, for sure? You know what it is. It's so magnificent. You just feel it's omnipresent. It takes your breath away. There's some deities and some celestial frequencies and some of the archetypical energies and frequencies. When you go into meditation or plant medicine journeys and you come face to face with some of these, it's just like you just feel like a little mouse on the corner, just grateful to be there.

1:18:34 You know.

1:18:35 It's just absolutely reverence.

1:18:36 So it was it always angels, Well, that's a trauma, trauma.

1:18:40 It's celastial, and there's different you know, breeds of angels or whatever. And I wasn't. It wasn't like I am Michael. It was never that. It was just like this, there was an energy of frequency that would form. But on the other ones you saw, yeah, like if they had a religious archetype or pet or oftentimes.

1:18:58 So what I have to ask, I mean, obviously geez this Jesus who else? I'm just curious.

1:19:04 I would just see the different ones from the different Hindu Buddhists, like different because it's just archetypical.

1:19:10 Right right, because that's what they're using usually.

1:19:13 Because it would be it would be that, and it was more often times family members.

1:19:18 So let me ask you from your point of view, when you say architect archetypical, if you're a Buddhist, you expect Buddha to show up, You would expect, right, You don't expect Mohammad to show up.

1:19:29 Right.

1:19:30 Is that representation of Buddha actually Buddha's energy or is it another energy from the other side making you comfortable that like that's it? Is that what you think? That's not the actual Buddha energy?

1:19:43 Well, it's it's it's it's paradoxical, right, because more than one thing can be true simultaneously, especially especially right. And so it's it's there's a frequency that comes into a clairvoyant vision and that creates a picture through mirror mortar neurons, which forms the thought. So that's how we're getting these.

1:20:02 So if I'm seeing dark entities or something on someone, it's not that they have like a snake on them. There's going to be an energy frequency associated with whatever their experiences that's creating that, and so that's how it's registering to me. So is it the actual frequency of that particular deity?

1:20:20 Yeah?

1:20:21 And then is it my perception being met with that?

1:20:24 So it's probably going to be a combination. I have to ask you, and I'm saying I'm asking this question for a reason you tested. I'm asking you this question for a reason. The you know, you've seen every aspect of humanity in those fifteen years, especially in LA. And I lived in LA for close to fifteen years too, so you meet everybody, but you definitely met everybody, and you say different, socioeconomic, all that stuff. But you probably ran into some pretty gnarly bad people doing bad things?

1:21:01 Is there one? And I'm sure you don't know them. Maybe sometimes you're like, well, there was a shootout here, so obviously these guys weren't this or that. But when you walked into a place maybe later on your shift or the next day, I'm like, you know who that was? Kind of like that guy was like the biggest drug dealer in this or that kind of stuff. At any moment with any of those those gnarly people, did you ever see anything negative? Did I see anything negative?

1:21:26 Meaning like energy wise? Yeah, yeah, for sure. So how explain that when it comes to and this is a great question. Actually, I'm glad you circled back to it. So when we're shedding the body, it's taking off a heavy coat, your yourself, your experience is still intact, so your likes, your dislikes, your thoughts, your believes you're all of your experience is just all of a sudden, you're like lighter and there's no pain but right, But it's like that's when you're disembodied. Right, And so again, I've never seen a dark entity or energy snatch you away at that stage where darkness is is in this paradigm.

1:21:58 This is a dualistic I'm the human experience. We have contrast. It's the point of being alive. So there's a whole lot of contrast going down out there in the world. Let's just be real, right, like, this is what's happening. Look, it's like we're in this powder kit right now or boiling pot. Pressure is high. Everything's so intense. People are like coming and glued all around us right now. And this is why it's really good to understand what this is now. There's nothing bad or wrong. There's different soul incarnations and experiences. Some people incarnate specifically with the dark soul experience, and they serve as teachers, like they can be very powerful destructors, right or disruptors, disruptors, destructors, sociopaths, psychopaths,

1:22:39 narcissists like actual narcissists, those guys all kind of are in that genre, if you will. Now, when it comes to dark entities or darkness in people's fields, typically going to be attached to substance. So oftentimes alcohol, meth amphetamine, heroin, uh, fentanyl, oxyconton, every one of these types of things, even overeating, any type of addictive behavior, any sort of subconscious program that's going to be you know in that uh you know, when we get in that place, we're not in a good place with ourselves that has that denser vibration attached to it. So oftentimes I would see entities like if somebody's got victim mentality or they're like really sociopathic or psychopathic, and I would see things crawling on them, like almost

1:23:29 like bugs in their in their energy fields. You could see their energy in they're in or not physically, this is in the energy field.

1:23:35 Right, So is this after they disembodied?

1:23:38 No, no, no, this is a human thing, man, because we have this is common when you're walking around.

1:23:43 So when you're walking around, you'd be like, oh.

1:23:45 Yeah, and I mean more people now, Like when I'm out and about, it's rare to see somebody who's like vibrant and healthy and happy, if you are healthy and happy in today's society, that's like the ultimate act of rebellion. And I see and I say a hell you out of that right and live your life, maintain your power and learn, learn your system, learn your energy bodies, learn what your physical body needs like, start to understand what you're here for. Because each of us has a gift.

1:24:11 I believe you know. Not everybody's in this energy spiritual world. Not everybody's meant to be in this energy spiritual Some people are like musical geniuses or mathematical geniuses. Awesome, right, everybody's doing what they're doing. But nothing to fear in darkness. And I would have presented in when I was in myself destructive days, I would have presented like that I had a lot of dark energy because I had a lot of trauma and a lot of self hatred and a lot of despair. And that stuff shows up thick in the fields. And I can see it in people's cells.

1:24:43 I can see it in their emotional bodies. I can see it in their thought patterns, and I can track it in disease processes in their bodies. And then the invitation is always like, well, how's all working?

1:24:54 For you.

1:24:55 You're ready, do you want to like shift that? And nobody finds me until it really read like nobody's ever gonna like show up because I'm not the handholding healer type. I'm still very much the paramedic.

1:25:08 You're not that.

1:25:08 It's gonna be okay, it's gonna be fine. Come over here, We'll have a nice little tea. You're more of the sledgehammer, Yeah, get back.

1:25:18 To the get or done right? Well, my, my, what I like to do now is it's like triage, overhaul, stabilize, and get people there their physical like physical, mental, emotional, energetic, and spiritual. Right, So we'll overhaul somebody's entire life in working in a session to get them reconnected to their power to understand like what all of this is, which to me, it's an invitation, right. Maybe it's because I'm where I'm from and I've been through what I've been through.

1:25:49 Maybe it's because I'm stubborn. Maybe it's because I'm gen X. Maybe it's all of it, but I always what's unique about me is the willingness to time after time. I mean, I have been burned to the ground so many times in this life. But there's always this little ember, there's always this little thing that's like keep going, well, I'm curious, what was I what's the lesson? What's the invitation? How can I transmute this? How can I integrate this? And it's the alchemy of spinning and integrating that and what happens when we have that willingness, and that willingness is absolute key because if you don't have if you're bypassing the willingness and you don't want to be uncomfortable, if you're bypassing the willingness and you're wanting to externalize your power,

1:26:36 you're not ever going to be able to fully integrate and land and own your own personal power. And I'm just all about you guys. You could do it like we could totally do it. And helping people understand, yeah, that they have the potential to really integrate. I know you've been through hard things. I know this life is Oh, it's a lot, right, But if you're willing to take one hundred percent personal responsibility for your physical health, for your emotions, for your thoughts, for your behavior patterns, and challenge old paradigms, make new choices, stop blaming and being outraged. Please, I see all the time in the world of empaths and high sense perception. I mean, these guys are my people, and there's tremendous victim culture. I'm so sensitive. I can't function.

1:27:26 I spend a long time there. I can't go out. I can't go in the crowd. I can't. It's so much, it's too intense. I can't And that doesn't serve us ultimately, because we are here, the humanity is shifting. Obviously, We're having a lot's happening in the world. I really believe that the more that we own our own power and buck the system and have fun and be healthy and be powerfully grounded in our gifts, that assists this evolution of consciousness.

1:27:54 But with that said, though, I mean, like for me, I'm fairly sensitive. I don't partake like large crowds. I don't like concerts that kind of stuff. I'm not like I'll go, but I'm you know, I'm gonna be like the kind of thing, so I kind of mentally protect myself and I you know, put a little you know, white light.

1:28:18 Can I give you tools?

1:28:20 Okay? Well, first of all, before you give me tools, let's get into this before you, Before you want to go out. So before you give me the tools, I would love to hear these tools, because I'm sure the audience would like to hear these tools. I have to ask you what it's because I don't I don't think I've had maybe once or twice in the whole time i've been doing this, I've had someone read my aura.

1:28:38 Can you do you mind reading me as an example and then give us a tool?

1:28:42 Yeah, for sure. So typically when I'm looking at somebody, we're going to start from the outer layers and work our way in. And so for you, obviously your crown chaka is very open.

1:28:50 What does that look like?

1:28:51 It's a cascade for you, It's going to be a very beautiful golden mixed with purple energy, and it's wide like a crown. You've got a spiral coming down. You've got very synthesized, streamlined mental body energy. What that means is you're intelligent and you're good at linear thinking and execution. So what that looks like is ticker tape algorithms like the matrix. Remember Greens, my favorite movie. So start up here at the crown. We were open here because you're open minded, you're grounded too, those of you're analyticals. So you've got this really beautiful blend between left and right brained.

1:29:24 The energy is synthesizing down through third eye and then coming down into throats, so you have this really beautiful open cascade here. You're open hearted, yet at the same time a little like.

1:29:34 Yeah, you know, we'll suss ye out.

1:29:36 So you're not just like, yes, peace in love everybody. I'm not that very energetically open, but just sus it out, which I appreciate because I really like grounded and I appreciate people who are skeptical. I appreciate people who want kind of like, let's land this stuff, let's make it make sense, right, And so we're starting there, and then we would go into We've got orange coming out around the shoulders. We've got some tightness and stiffness in the back of the neck and shoulders pulling a little bit here between the shoulder blades, a little bit of holding up here under the diaphragm. And so that's just kind of you're ruminating over things, you're creating things, You're gonna build things, but you're gonna you still got a lot

1:30:17 to process in terms of all of this expansion that wants to come out, and you're like, yeah, but I'm a human and I still get a balance all this stuff. So this is being pulled here under the diaphragm, which just pulling up the neck on the shoulders and wants to come here. Root is root, and pelvis are quite open, quite grounded, just in terms of you're grounded, you're running and synthesizing your energy. So I'm seeing gold, I'm seeing purple, I'm seeing orange. There's the green ticker tape and what it looks like.

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1:30:53 The ore is not one color, you guys. It's Russian nesting dolls, right, And each layer of the field has a whole bunch of different data and information, so it's always moving around. Now, if I was to touch you, or if we were to actually deep dive into a session, then I could trace back into like each organ system and find any imbalance, any areas of holding shame, and then we would look at physical, mental, emotional, energetic, and spiritual ways to integrate and become that's awesome.

1:31:24 So that's that's mine. And then what are some examples of other kind of orc So like I'm open, so you're open, but others are closed.

1:31:34 Some people are super close. You know, what most people look like are going to be bobbleheads. So because everybody's in their head and they're so anxious, and everybody's so amped all the time, and there's so much like cortisol and stress and everybody's systems like they're in war zone all the time. So they're overthinking. They're constantly being bombarded and stimulated. So it's like a bobblehead of information that cuts off here at the occiput at the back of the neck, and they're disconnected from their heart. They're disconnected from their own personal power and truth. And so I oftentimes see people forward leaning because we're in a very driven, motivated society. You can never ever stop, you can never stop,

1:32:10 and so it looks like a hypertrophy. So hypertrophy is swelling and it becomes the oric field becomes like a flat tire. Okay, so most people go forward and then they're top heavy and forward leaning. Now what happens there. We can have sleep interruption, insomnia, emotional distress. We can be disassociated and a lot of times what I'm seeing with people. We have two general categories. Now there's going to be a lot of crossover, but we have a ton of people who are exhausted, super depleted, apathetic, just sluggish, like say, like they weigh weigh a thousand pounds, so their fields are saturated and looks like gray clay, and it's just heavy and bogged down, and it's like they try but they can't like really get it, and so

1:33:01 that could be oftentimes I see is what I call an undiagnosed and path. They don't know they're taking on and holding everybody else's stuff, right, And so it's really easy to release and integrate that if you know how to do it. But then we have to It's not just about the energetics, you guys. We have to hit all layers, every single level matters physical, mental, emotional, energetic, and spiritual. All they're all correlated. And so we can come to a clearing and we have to understand, Okay, balance hormones, get yourself hydrated, balance the gut biome, make sure that the adrenals and the endocrine system are dialed in.

1:33:38 What are your beliefs? How you doing? You got paraslites like where are we at with your physical and then what are your belief structures? Are you addicted to processing? Are you addicted to intensity? Are you addicted to and are you willing then to shift into a different way of being right?

1:33:52 And can you talk because obviously you're very fit and you said you've worked out a lot and you take care of yourself and you've been doing this for a long time. What's the energetic of the foods?

1:34:02 Oh?

1:34:03 God, can we talk just dive in a little bit on that, because it's something so important that people in the spiritual community don't get.

1:34:11 Yeh.

1:34:12 In concept, You're like, you should be eating stuff from Mother Earth and you should be doing and I've seen all of that, but most don't and they don't understand. They're like, why can't I meditate? Well, maybe because you're hopped up on caffeine all day, yeah, or maybe you're taking forty Red bulls a day or something like that.

1:34:28 So what are the energetics that you see in foods? And how does it affect not only your body, but your ability to connect with spirit, to connect with yourself, connect with your own power to function.

1:34:41 Oh, it's such a huge thing. So few food as fuel let medicine like, let them food be thy medicine, thy medicine. Now we are living in a toxic environment and this is just what is from from top to bottom. Okay, every close the food, the water. Now we can scream and stomp and tantum around about how terrible it is, and we can pull our power back and say what am I going to do about it? Okay?

1:35:11 Each our food is not food.

1:35:13 Our food is like food like substance. We're eating microplastics, we are having fluoridated water. We are like, this is a real thing, and most Americans are riddled with parasites, heavy metals. Don't know it right, We're not taught about it. We're not educated about it. So even if you're eating what you think is organic, it's still been sprayed by something.

1:35:34 Or we have the trails and the different things going on in the atmosphere. So the soil itself is lacking nutrients. And we're pretty far down the chain in terms of anything actually having a tremendous amount of praana. It does exist, And for you, it's about for each individual. You, guys, there's no right way for each person. Everybody's different, right, So if some vegan works for somebody, it might not work for somebody else. My system needs more like Paleo or Mediterranean. I need bats and good proteins and a lot of you know, things to anchor me. Otherwise I float away like a helium balloon with all of this stimulus.

1:36:15 Taking that self responsibility. Understand that most people are chronically dehydrated. Chronic dehydration leads to lethargy, apathy, like limp system coagulation. Everything is interconnected. So we want to start in the easiest possible way. Just drink more water, add some lemon water to it, or electrolytes to it. Just drink more water, pink salt, well something, yeah, well some something, well something something.

1:36:37 Go outside and sit in the sun for ten minutes, like just get a little bit of vitamin D. Right, So we're going to start super basic paramedic protocols. Man, We've got to make this stuff like easy and applicable and free so that you can do it, you know, for yourself when you're feeling low. The world is what it is, and we can still retain our power and say, Okay, I'm going to figure out what my system needs and what works for my system. So that I can still thrive, because thriving as humans and thriving as sensitive humans is possible.

1:37:09 And again, I'm all about buck the system, man, right, I'm all about like, yeah, to be healthy, to be happy, to feel good in your body, ultimate active rebellion to meet that success.

1:37:19 So when you see ultra processed foods versus a whole food, yeah, energetically, it's.

1:37:27 Just it's essentially like gray, very slow moving like that. The energy is something, it's very very low charged energy. It's going to be a darker or more slow moving charge with no like vitality. Vitality is moving energy. Vitality is going to be a brighter sitting water versus moving water.

1:37:47 Yeah, exactly.

1:37:48 Yeah, it's perfect analogy. Okay, so we'll start with hydration. Go get some sun, Just move your body, go walk around the block, you know, just little things. Start with the basic things. And then if you can, I used to you know, eat all the fast food kind of stuff over time. I mean, this is real. Let's be real, like we do.

1:38:06 What we do is a paramedic. Yeah, I mean you don't have time to you know, I need to make my whole, my organic thing a thing.

1:38:18 No, and it's about like, okay, personal responsibility, figuring out what works for your system and then dialing in and being like, oh, maybe you're severely constipated or have g I chronic GI issues like Chrohn's disease or IBS, or we have leaky gut syndrome and that flares into autoimmune things in line, all kinds of stuff. But it's all interconnected, all right, And so we always want to start with like the least invasive and then work your way up into a more advanced protocol. So always start where you are and then figure out like, yeah, actually my system does need you know, good meats or heavier fats, or maybe some people are like no, I do really a lot better on Just plant plants and find what really

1:39:01 genuinely feels good to you. From there, clear out the GI. Clear out your GI. You guys, very very important to understand. Just do some research. The gut biome. The microbiome is the second brain of the body, and it literally feeds every single organ. And if you aren't recognizing that you have parasites or heavy metal toxicity or things like that, your whole system is going to be balked. So it doesn't matter how much organic food you're eating, right, because it's not going to be processing through the system.

1:39:31 That's the thing people don't understand, Like if they don't take care of the machine that's running it, like processing this food. You could eat the best most energetic food in the world, but your body can't.

1:39:41 You can't absorb it, and so that's kind of the whole.

1:39:44 It's like putting high octane in a really crappy engine exactly. The engine's been like you've been beating this engine with low you haven't changed the oil and fifty thousand miles and you're putting ultraprime gas and you're like, why isn't this working totally wrong? The engine? You have to prime the engine.

1:40:00 I'm the engine now. One of the other things I see oftentimes in the spiritual community is wanting to be out of body, not really focusing on being in the body. So there's a lot of ascension, visualization, meditation like up and out. I'm going to go up and out so I can feel better. Okay, cool, I get that. And we're here. We're in a body. You're in a body, you're humans, So we got to like be in the body.

1:40:20 And the more willing we are to be grounded in the body and again take it's you bring back the power and it's that willingness. A lot of sensitives don't want to be in their bodies because it's a lot dude, I get it. I've lived it forever. It's like this constant stimulus bombardment. So the last thing, like when I started my process, I've done twenty five years now of somatic trauma therapy and processing and integrating and plant. That is all the things facing myself over and over and over, and every single time I would be circled back to just be in your body, feel it, regulate your nervous system, be present with what is, and then you make new choices. Right, so as you're feeling better, you're you're willing to be

1:41:05 in your body and do the basic things. Hydrate, eat cleaner foods, less GMO if possible, less you know, processed food if possible, But just get out and move your body and hydrate and get in the sun. Just those things are going to make you feel better. Then you figure out supplement wise, and then you get into managing gut biome through all the ways that there are, and you're going to really start kicking in. The reason that's so important is because the more willing you are to be powerful in your body, the more willing, the more powerful you can be in your energetics, in your gifts.

1:41:39 And that's the thing that people don't get.

1:41:40 And I know it makes me no one Bananda sandwich because I'm like, you guys, down and in, down and in. They're like, no ascension five D eleven D. I'm like, cool, but down and in. We're here right now, we're having a human experience. Do you want to own this? Do you want to be this? I get that you being human is limited, and there's a lot of contrast, and people don't unnecessary understand and a lot of sensitives just don't resonate. We don't feel like we fit here, we don't feel like they necessarily belong with other humans. So it's easier to want to go out.

1:42:09 And in the East, I mean even in the Vedic traditions and those things they're talking about prana, they talk about the food and ire Vedic and all of that stuff. So they understood that there needed to be a balance with all of it. But a lot of the New Age movement does not talk about it. It's something that it's something that needs to be spoken about a lot more because it's you know, you can meditate all day, but you go out, you know, fast food, yeah, and then meditate. I'm like, I'm meditating. I can't it's not working.

1:42:39 I'm like, well, maybe because you're not taking care of the vehicle.

1:42:43 They are in totally you know what I mean. Yeah, and you can't visualize parasites way Sorry, guys, we actually have to detox those.

1:42:49 You know, it's not just.

1:42:51 About like that visualization or meditation. It's embodying, it's being, and that's coming to terms with you. You got to get real with you, and that's that's the that's the CRUs, that's everything.

1:43:04 You have to get real with you in every aspect of your life, not just food, not just spiritual, not just mental or trauma. You've got to look yourself in the mirror in all aspects of your life. And most people do not want to do that because that's it's scary, it's scary, and it's it's unpleasant. Yeah, but for someone like yourself who's gone through so much unpleasant, so much so, that muscle is so strong within you. You're like, yeah, that's what I do. I just I just do that because I'm just that's that's my happy place is to be.

1:43:36 It is becoming. I used to think there was something wrong with being uncomfortable and comfortable. You have to learn to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. It's not that or wrong if you're uncomfortable. The question is always like what is this bringing up within me?

1:43:52 Right?

1:43:53 And the key takeaway to everybody who's watching this is really the willingness. The more willing you are to just one be authentic with who you are, be true to me. The most spiritual thing you can possibly do is be real, be authentic. Absolutely, can we get out high fiving and just be you and accept yourself as human and the spiritual construct of I need to be a certain way and always happy and flowing and etheric, and it's it's a construct. That's not the reality. You don't You're not etheric.

1:44:31 If you get out of bed two in the morning to go pee and you step your toe like you know, that's real. We have reactions and we have contrasts, and being okay with who and how you are, being okay with your sensitivities, being okay with your past history being okay with challenges looking at how did I recreate that?

1:44:50 What did I get? Why?

1:44:51 Why did that cycle back in? Why do I attract another one of those dudes like or whatever is? Can we stop caretaking men or when men or whatever and men don't care?

1:45:03 That's okay, okay, okay, I know you were. You were trying to be inclusive, and I appreciate that. But I've never met a dude like you know what. I think I can change that girl. I think I need to nurture her. That's not that's not a male trait and she generally listen, listen, I was raised with women. I'm surrounded by women all the time. I get it, and even I am not like I must nurture this. But no, it's not a male energy and it needs to be balanced because the male energy is like drives yea and the female energy just like we need that, Yes, we do, we need both. Yeah, we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

1:45:51 I think more of this one right here. The women want a little bit more feminine, divine feminine energies is needed more because we got a lot of this. We do the world right now before we finish up. I have to because I promised to ask psychedelics. So plant medicine, what the hell did you see? Because you're open already? Yeah, So was it a slower ramping in because form I to understand plant medicine. I've never taken any plant medicine, but everyone I've spoken to have. It's like a rocket ship, especially if you're not initiated or ready. It's a rocket ship, like you go from zero to a thousand like that, and most psyches can't handle that, have an issue with that.

1:46:36 But you were more open about it, like you've seen stuff experience. So it was it an easier ramp up.

1:46:44 Into Well, it was just a bigger version of what I deal with every day for me, right, And so wasn't as daring. Yeah, it wasn't as drawing. And okay, so I was in that world. I was in the scene for about five years and it's become a very popular It's like I got my spiritual merit badge. Right, I've done whatever Alaska and Bufo and like combo and all the things. Now there are very profound and powerful applications for these. Please only do plant medicines. If one, you get a solid internal yes, if there's any hesitation, if there's any wavering, don't do it. You're not ready. Two, everybody and their mom is running around pouring ayahuasca and plant medicines right now. They went down. They got some

1:47:27 shaman pants in Peru. After a two week initiation, they came back and claimed that they are like whatever, and these people are running like eighty people ceremonies in warehouses and stuff.

1:47:36 It's insane with you in van eyes, yeah, but everywhere. Don't take ayahuasca in La. I'm so sorry. I'm sure there's some price, some good shamans. I'm sure there's a shaman version these you guys.

1:47:49 Just all of these things are just adjuncts, okay. But it's the bullet train. So if your foundation is not set, if you don't have a good self connection, not grounded in your body, if you're you know, on a very down that precipice of trauma integration, but you're not sure which way it's going to go, it can do more harm than good. Okay. So in any I've done.

1:48:14 All of them.

1:48:14 Myahuasca five A MEO d MT DMT mescalin combo. I begin all of these things, and I like that I have done that because I can speak to them in first hand experiences. What I learned in all of that is that all it does is it opens you up to the higher consciousness. You have some insights. Yes, sometimes we purge, sometimes we release. You come back and guess.

1:48:37 What, You're still you.

1:48:39 You're still you, And it's all about integration. So what I've seen is that it's become a very hip and popular scene and a lot of people are wanting that as the magic bullet or the magic ride, like I'm going to go do this and then I'll be fixed. Now rubber meets the road, guys, it's back to square one.

1:48:55 And then you then you're dealing with what did I just experience? What did I just see? How do I deal with that? Where do I put that? When I got to go back to my cubicle and deal with my boss who's annoying, Like we come back. It's all about integration. Plant medicine work in today's culture, it's all about integration. It's all about what you do with it.

1:49:17 And if you get that sense of like, oh I must not have got it.

1:49:20 I got to go back. I got to do more. I got to do more.

1:49:23 I got to do more rides.

1:49:25 And then what we're seeing is just it's addictive tendency, but it's.

1:49:29 Another way of numbing this. Like I don't want to be here. I want to go somewhere. I want to go home.

1:49:34 I want to go home. I'd rather be home. And I understand that, you guys, but we are always higher consciousness for all of eternity. We came here for the specific reason to have your human experience. This is a tiny fragment of time. It can dry, it it can really dry, and it can seem like an eternity, but it is over in a second, so we will always go back.

1:49:54 So what was the craziest thing you saw in any of those experiences.

1:49:58 There isn't anything that I didn't see in the way of face to face with every deity, every ascended master, every dark realm, every hell realm. I've been through all of the things. And Ayahuasca is grandmother. She's very light dark and so that was a lot of my trauma integration. I came face to face with my mother. I needed to come face to face with my mother and like hash out some stuff. So mescaline is going to be grandfather.

1:50:23 It's going to be more of like plant healing, earth healing, and it was a lot of a gentler ride. So each of these ones have very specific applications. What I would advocate for you if you're thinking about doing it, First, get a solid internal yes. Second, research really good viable resources. MDMA assisted trauma therapy is doing wonders, combats responders. It is legit, all right, So you can find agencies that are like, we're the psilocybin, all of these things. It's it's opening. The field is opening, thank goodness. And always ask the providers, ask questions, how long have you been doing this? You know, find real people, find real people that really truly know. Don't just do it because your

1:51:10 best friend Jamie wants to go.

1:51:12 It's Friday night. There's going to be a ayahuasca ceremony in Van Nye or up in the hills. Yeah, and then you show up and there's a bunch of you know.

1:51:20 Because what happens, You're going to go, You're gonna have whatever experience you're gonna have. Okay, then you're going to come back into your body and you'd be like, whoa Okay, that was the thing. Now what I'm experiencing in my practice, and people seek me out for all kinds of things. But like I get a lot of people that blow out disregulate their nervous system and they have full sight breaks or close to psyche breaks. So then we induce like tremors or insomnia or night tererers or anxiety. These are very potent tools and so just use them accordingly. Yeah, that's what I said.

1:51:54 This is nuts.

1:51:55 Yeah, and you know what I did, honestly. So I'm grateful that I did all of it, and my biggest takeaway is that I didn't need to do all of that. I liked the experiences. I like being able to speak firsthand about the experiences. I like being helped people to help people integrate those experiences. But my most powerful has been when I'm just willing to sit in my body and feel it.

1:52:21 Sarah, where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing? And pick up a copy of your book Journey into Grace, which is Tales of the Psychic Paramedic. That's awesome. That is a that is awesome that you can you can find me.

1:52:35 At Sarah kagrace dot com and that's Sarah with an h K Grace dot com.

1:52:40 And if someone wants to do a session with you or anything like that, it's.

1:52:43 All on there. You can work with me individually or in groups or there.

1:52:46 I have a feeling that I can talk to you for at least another ten days. There's stuff, there's glic. It was such a pleasure meeting you, a pleasure sharing your story with my audience. And thank you so much for the bravery that you've done with coming up publicly doing this and doing the good work and really helping to awaken the planet. So I appreciate you. I appreciate you too, Thank you, Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes for this episode at Next levelsoul dot com Forward slash seven one two, And if your soul is craving an even deeper journey, step into Next Level Soul TV, our streaming sanctuary for

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