My boyfriend FAKED being my ex…just to text his own ex! | Reddit Stories | EP3110

0:00 Hey, this is Angie.

0:01 And this is Dakota, your favorite OK Storytime hosts. And we've got some great stories coming up.

0:05 But before that, we have a quick two-minute break from the sponsors that keep this show running. Hello everyone and welcome back to OK Storytime. And you better buckle up because today we have some stories about crazy exes who did not get the memo that it's over.

0:22 I'm Savannah. I'm Sophia. I'm Riley.

0:24 And you know what?

0:25 What?

0:26 I really feel this one.

0:27 Me too.

0:28 Sometimes you just have to be really straightforward and say stop. Reaching out.

0:33 Yeah.

0:33 Or say, stop texting my mom.

0:36 What?

0:37 Even if you have to confront them at a rock climbing gym for a few hours.

0:41 Yeah. It happens to us all. Sophia mostly.

0:47 And today we have a story about a boyfriend who catfished his own girlfriend and As her ex.

0:53 That seems too complicated.

0:54 And it made a whole burner phone, pretended to be her ex-boyfriend just so he'd have an excuse to text his ex back.

1:01 Why not just do it behind her back if he's already going through all that? Who knows? Maybe he likes extra steps. Okay, well, I also see that we have a story about an ex who tracked a woman down seven years later. at her job and got arrested a week later with zip ties and a crowbar in his car. What? That's actually insane. Oh my goodness.

1:23 It sounds like a murder mystery. Sounds like a Dateline episode.

1:28 I hope not. I hope it ends better than those.

1:31 And then we swing back into another mess where an ex-husband who cheated got his mistress pregnant and had the audacity to ask his ex-wife to help raise the child.

1:43 No. not gonna be your babysitter that's insane that's a crazy.

1:47 Ask and we got a story to finish this off where a fiance demanded her fiance's ex to hand back her engagement ring and said something so vile about her future kids, I'm not even going to.

1:59 Tease you about it.

2:00 You got to hear it.

2:01 It's absolutely horrendous.

2:03 Don't bring the kids into this.

2:05 Sounds like we got some crazy stories here, so let's get into them. My boyfriend faked being my ex just to text his own ex behind my back.

2:15 That's too complicated.

2:16 Two weeks ago, I, 25 female, received a text from an unknown number. claiming they were my ex-boyfriend James, 25, male. I believed it was James, as he did write a status on Facebook saying he had a new number.

2:32 Oh, maybe OP's boyfriend made that Facebook account too. It was all part of the plan.

2:38 It was just casual talk.

2:40 How are things? How's your new boyfriend?

2:43 Oh, that would be immediately red flag. I'd be like, oh, none of your business, actually. I replied platonically and friendly as we did end on good terms.

2:53 Okay, then I kind of get that.

2:56 My current boyfriend, Max, 24 male, said if I am talking to my ex, then he should be allowed to speak to his ex, Brooke, 20 female.

3:03 That is an insane ploy. He's like, oh, um, if you are by chance talking to your ex, I should be allowed to talk to my ex. And I did not set this.

3:14 Up at all.

3:15 Like, so that just proves to me that you want to speak to your ex. Yeah, that's insane. What an insane way to go about that.

3:20 I said, that's fine. You can speak to who you want. Although, you know I won't like that. Wait, I've said that before. I'm like, oh yeah, you can do whatever you want. I'm not going to like it, just so you know.

3:32 And it's like, ooh. It's like, yeah, it's a test.

3:35 I wasn't happy because the only reason I ever stopped him talking to Brooke is because their messages were always flirty.

3:42 And she still sends him news. What? I'm sorry, the second that an ex sends a spicy pic to my boyfriend and he continues to talk to them after that, I am not, that's no longer my boyfriend. We have two exes in the story now.

3:57 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

3:58 Maybe the person that sent it meant to send it to someone else and they got mixed up. And instead of ruining the friendship, they're like, I just didn't see anything.

4:05 There was a plural on that.

4:07 So I asked him to block her and he did. But he said he would talk to her anyways because I'm speaking to James.

4:13 That's crazy. That was that.

4:16 By the way, this comes from BadTagunSick. And if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.

4:22 I'm Savannah. I'm Sophia.

4:25 I'm Riley.

4:25 And we're here to talk about some stuff and give some advice. But we don't have all your answers. We're just going to do what we do. But let us know what you do down in the comments. As OP says... A few days later, Max went to make dinner and I was up in the bedroom. I was looking for some socks for Max's drawer and I found a cheap mobile phone that I never saw before. I looked on it and it was the text I sent to James.

4:52 That's insane. Like, okay.

4:55 Wait. It keeps getting worse. It's ICU, which is really not because everyone kind of knows what's happening here.

5:02 But I got it. Savannah saw it now. I got it.

5:07 I'm seeing it right now.

5:08 Everyone saw it before. Everyone saw it maybe in the title. But I'm just getting it now.

5:13 This guy has a burner phone that he's trying to make OP believe that it's the ex so that he gets permission to talk to Brooke, his ex, She read the title!

5:29 That's insane. That is crazy. That's crazy to do that. I would have broken up with him the second that he wanted to keep talking to his ex. Based on their previous actions.

5:39 I was livid! He was pretending to be my ex-boyfriend? I confronted Max straight away, and he admitted that he wanted to get back in touch with Brooke, and he thought if I spoke to my ex, James... He could use that as an excuse to be able to talk to Brooke.

5:56 Insane.

5:56 I am pissed off. I am really angry that he had to do this behind my back. I asked to see his messages between Brooke and they are all flirty and just borderline inappropriate.

6:07 Dude, break up with him. What's going on here?

6:09 My boyfriend pretended to be my ex so he could speak to his ex. We live together plus own a dog. Is this salvageable? Where do I go from here?

6:21 There's an update. Probably you go out the door.

6:24 And go clubbing.

6:26 Yeah, you go.

6:27 Whoa. Back that up. Back that up.

6:32 You go clubbing.

6:33 And go clubbing.

6:33 You back that up.

6:35 You go clubbing.

6:36 And you yo-yo your ball. Just right. Just right.

6:41 Just right.

6:42 There's an update 15 days later. Beep.

6:46 I broke up with him the day I posted on Reddit.

6:49 Yay!

6:50 Efficient, did you? But did you club?

6:53 I posted on Reddit in two hours after I ended it. He didn't take it too well, but I followed through and I left him. He didn't seem that bothered, to be honest. I brought my dog and all the vet bills are under my name, so I legally own the dog. If he wants to take me to court for him, he can. But I've looked into it and he won't win.

7:11 About all of this situation, I'll never understand why he did what he did. Surely it would have just been easier to just message Brooke behind my back to begin with and said he went to extreme lengths.

7:22 Because he's silly.

7:23 My only guess is because he felt guilty for talking to his ex and wanted to make himself feel better?

7:28 I don't know.

7:29 None of it makes sense to me. I moved out of our home straight away and I lived with my parents while I looked for a property. I found a place and I'm moving in two weeks, so that's something. DLDR, I dumped him.

7:41 Yay.

7:43 Nice.

7:43 Yeah, get him out of here. This guy sucks. Like, he's stupid. Yeah, he's silly. He's a silly little boy. You know what I do to silly little boys? I buzz them. I buzz them. Buzz them. Buzz them to the buzzards. But we got another story. My ex tracked me down after seven years, so I had him arrested. Wee woo, wee woo, call the police. Okay, Liam Neeson.

8:09 Trigger warning for mentions of intense stalking. Ay yi yi.

8:14 Background.

8:15 So Andrew was my first real boyfriend. I was with him from 2015 to 2016. Not another Andrew. Not another Andrew. Haven't we had enough? When we got together, I was 21 and he was 30. Whoa. Nine year difference. Which I realize now is a huge red flag.

8:34 Yeah.

8:34 Okay.

8:35 Growth.

8:36 But at the time, I didn't know any better and didn't have anyone in my life to go to for advice or support. The whole relationship was all real trash fire. But he was very controlling and treated me like crap. And I always just thought it was my fault for not being a better girlfriend. Eventually, I found out that he was cheating on me for pretty much the whole time we were together. Why is a 30-year-old getting... Well, okay.

8:59 Who's he cheating on you with? 16-year-old? Yeah.

9:01 I mean.

9:03 I confronted him about it and demanded that he stop sleeping with other girls. Girls, plural?

9:08 And you broke up with him, right?

9:10 Yeah, let's do that.

9:11 Right?

9:11 He told me that I was a stupid, immature child for expecting our relationship to be monogamous because men aren't built like that. Right.

9:19 Oh, wow.

9:20 Yes, it's my fault for you cheating.

9:23 Oh, wait, sir.

9:24 I get it now. Men are animals that have no self-control. And he goes, yeah. And then you go, so they shouldn't be in charge of actually anything and they shouldn't have jobs. Because they're just too simple. Is that what you're saying? Uh, no. I'll never forget that exact quote. Anne said that I had no right to tell him what to do. In the middle of arguing with him about it, he said he was done with me and just blocked me on everything.

9:52 What a relationship to have.

9:54 Good. That is awesome. By the way, this comes from TrueLives404. And if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay story time subreddit. Anyway, I hope he says. Getting dumped this way really messed me up, especially because at this point in my life, he was pretty much the only person that I even talked to.

10:12 Even though he was the one that cheated, I thought the relationship ending was my fault for being too clingy and not mature enough to understand adult relationships. See, I hate that. That's how, that's, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to speak it. Speak my truth. That's how I felt.

10:30 When I was 16, dating an older man. He was 23, I think.

10:35 I think.

10:36 I still don't know his actual age. Because like five years later, he made a YouTube channel and said he was 22. And I was like, wait, I'm 20. How am I about to pass you up?

10:44 We don't know how old he was. It was really weird. So yeah. But no, it does feel like that. And then the worst part was that for the next six months or so, he would get random girls he was with to send me photos and videos of them in bed together.

10:56 Oh my God.

10:57 Or I assume he was getting them to do it because it looked like the messages were coming from their numbers. Maybe he was using random accounts. I don't know.

11:04 What the actual?

11:08 Or he was texting, like DMing people and saying, yeah, this is my number. Send it to this account or send it to this number. Like they might not have known it. Like that's disgusting.

11:18 People walk the earth like this.

11:20 Yeah. People like this have hands.

11:22 Yes.

11:22 Obviously this really upset me and made it harder for me to move on. I know how stupid it sounds, because he was obviously such a terrible person, but it took me a long time to get over him. Honestly, the reason that to this day I haven't had any other serious relationships is because my experience with Andrew really turned me off dating anybody. But anyway, all that stopped eventually, and a couple of years later, I moved to a completely new state. I don't really stay in contact with anybody that I knew during that part of my life, so I haven't heard from Andrew or heard anything about what he's been up to since maybe 2018. I was at work when my boss came in the back of the shop and told me that a client was asking

12:00 for me. I don't want to say exactly what I do, but it's a creative industry where artists have their portfolios online, so it's typical for someone to come into the shop and ask for a specific artist. So I go out to the front and see that the client is Andrew. I was shocked, and for some reason embarrassed that he was there to see me. I don't know why, but I just defaulted into customer service mode and asked, Hi, what can I help you with? Andrew said that he missed me and wanted to talk to me. So he looked me up and saw that I was in Colorado, so he came to see me.

12:30 Yikes.

12:31 Scary. Like he seriously said that he came all the way from Arizona to Colorado just because he saw on the internet that I worked at this shop now. So I ignored that and told him that I could help him with professional services, but otherwise I'd have to ask him to leave. Andrew kept asking, did I miss him and do I have a new boyfriend now? I just kept asking him questions from our new client checklist and pretending like I didn't hear anything else he was saying.

12:54 After a couple of minutes, my boss came back out and asked if everything was okay. I explained to him that this is my ex-boyfriend and that he seems to be here for personal reasons only. So my boss told him that if that's the case, to please leave and furthermore, not to come back.

13:09 It's literally American Beauty. Love it.

13:10 Nice job, boss. Andrew seriously looked like he was going to cry.

13:16 Good.

13:16 Cry, little baby. Little baby boy. Cry. Which was very unsettling to me because I've never seen him be emotional like that. But he left without arguing. My boss went outside and watched him leave to make sure he didn't hang around outside. He came back in and asked me if I wanted him to call the police, which I said I didn't think was necessary. He said okay, but that if I changed my mind to let him know, because he'd back me up and say that Andrea had been trespassing and pestering his employees. Good boss!

13:44 And?

13:44 That's true. Really good boss.

13:46 Yeah.

13:47 Yeah, actually, it is my supervisor, and I do what he says, and he says, you gotta get off.

13:52 You gotta leave.

13:52 You gotta leave. Sorry.

13:54 He also had someone walk out with me at the end of my shift, but we didn't see Andrew around anywhere.

13:59 Great boss.

13:59 I was supposed to work today, but my boss told me not to come in. He's giving me a paid day off? Your boss is awesome.

14:06 A1 boss. A1 boss.

14:08 Jeez.

14:08 My gosh, amazing. Because he wants to watch and see if Andrew comes around again looking for me.

14:13 Oh.

14:13 So now I'm thinking about it today and trying to decide if this is worth going to the police. Probably is. I don't know what to do and I'm not sure if I should be scared. I looked up our local laws about stalking and I don't think it's illegal to come into someone's job one time and leave after you're asked to. So I don't think they'd care. Probably, unfortunately, they would not care. Yeah. But it might also be good to have it on the record that he did come in just in case he does anything else. Also cool.

14:41 I also don't understand what the F he even wants. He's the one who broke up with me and it's been almost seven years. And we do have an update about a month later. So how did he find her? I guess she posted online somewhere that she was at this new job. And he must have known kind of where she lived. And then maybe he showed up to multiple locations. Or maybe this is just a one location thing.

15:07 Update! Update!

15:08 About a month ago, I posted about my ex-boyfriend showing up at my job unexpectedly. I don't think I'm allowed to link, but it's in my post history. Everyone told me I should report it to the police just in case he showed up again. But I decided not to because I really didn't think he was going to. This turned out to be a big mistake, and that's why I wanted to update you all on what happened afterwards.

15:28 A week after he came into my job, I also saw my ex hanging around in the parking lot outside of my apartment building.

15:35 Oh!

15:36 He didn't try to talk to me or anything, but I saw him sitting in his car when I went inside. So then I called the police and told them that my ex-boyfriend was outside my apartment and that he had also showed up at my place of employment a week earlier and that he was harmful and I was scared of him. Good job, OP. I'm really proud of you for trusting your gut.

15:53 Yes.

15:54 Yeah.

15:54 Because that seems like that is the thing that you learn in the seven years since. So good job. It is better to be safe than sorry.

16:00 Always.

16:00 Oh, yeah.

16:01 I would hope, OP2, that you have, like, mace or something on you not even just for your ex but just in general i think.

16:07 That would be wise a cop car came and when it showed up my ex immediately tried to run away like he got out of the car and tried to run away down the street what an idiot used your car dummy he's like.

16:19 One man one man power better than cop car 300 horsepower.

16:24 So the cops stopped him and put him in handcuffs and searched his car They found zip ties and a crowbar that he admitted he was planning to use to come after me. OP, I am so glad that you trusted your gut. I am so glad that you trusted your gut. I will say, what is the reasonable cause there to enter his car? I guess because he ran away.

16:49 Yeah, I guess so.

16:49 And it's like, oh, like, why are you running away? What do you have to hide?

16:52 Yeah, why are you running away from the cops?

16:54 Yeah, running, leaving your car there instead of like driving away.

16:58 That's terrifying. I'm so sorry. So right now he's in jail and hopefully he'll stay there. I also have a restraining order against him. Apparently that triggers automatically when someone is arrested for a violent crime against you. But anyway, I wanted to share this so that other women won't make the mistake I made. If someone makes you even the slightest bit uncomfortable, go to the police. That's not quite worded, but I understand what you mean. If someone is making you uncomfortable and you feel like you are in danger... Trust your gut.

17:31 Savannah's ready to fart on me at any time. I'm uncomfortable.

17:34 I'm in danger. I'm lucky that I just happened to see my ex before he had a chance to do anything to me. It's still unclear to me whether he came to my state with the intent of coming after me or if that was what he decided to do because he didn't like how I acted when he came into my job. But either way, I should have gone to the police in the first place. And we do have comments, but do you have any final thoughts?

17:56 I'm just happy OP's safe.

17:58 Yeah.

17:58 And he's behind bars.

17:59 Yeah, me too. I mean, that's just insane. Like, these people are just, like, out there.

18:03 Truly can't be goofy about that. No. I will be honest.

18:05 Yeah. There's nothing to be goofy about here because I'm just glad you're safe. Yeah.

18:11 The fact that he was, like, actually, like, saw you.

18:14 Had plans. Didn't, like.

18:16 And he confessed it, too.

18:17 Yeah, like.

18:18 They're, like, zip ties, crowbar. What's, why? It's just, like, insane.

18:22 Like, what?

18:23 Like.

18:23 Just move on. Yes, just move on. Go get help.

18:26 Just figure yourself out. Why do you have to ruin someone's life?

18:29 I don't know. Well, we've got some comments. May I suggest you move, please? Opie says, I'll probably have to. It's okay for now because he's in jail. But if and when he gets out, I don't think I'll feel safe knowing that he knows where I am. Yeah. Another commenter says, was he following you home after work and that's how he knows where your apartment is? This is terrifying to think he might have been watching you for a while. I'm so sorry you're going through this, and I'm so glad the police helped you. Sending all my good vibes that he gets put away. OP says, that's what must have happened, yes. Commoner says, do you know how he found your address or where you worked? It would be best to figure that out and plug that

19:05 hole before making your next move. OP says, I know that he found out where I worked because of my professional portfolio online. And then I believe that he figured out where I live by following me home from work. Terrifying. So scary. But that is the end of that story. And we've got another one coming right up.

19:23 My ex-husband wants me to raise his mistress's baby. I said, heck no.

19:29 Oh, I'm getting a call. Ring, ring. I can't. I can't do that. I gotta go. I'm getting a call. I can't. I can't do that. I can't do that for you. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I gotta take this. It's the Pope.

19:47 My 30 female, ex-husband 32 male, and I have two children, four male, two female. We have been divorced just about six months, and he is now expecting a baby with his new girlfriend. I'm admittedly not over him. We were together 10 years, my entire adulthood. It was and is a messy split. I'm still bitter and hurt about it.

20:10 And he seems to have completely moved on somehow. When we had our oldest, neither of us wanted him in daycare.

20:16 No judgment. We just didn't feel comfortable.

20:18 So I stayed home and eventually started my own business that allows me to work 99% remotely. But there is that 0.1% or not 0.1, just 1%.

20:27 Math, am I right? He comes in one day a year.

20:30 My parents are also local and retired and help me out as much as they can. This arrangement works for me and I get to spend time with both of my kids. Now, X's girlfriend is five months pregnant and they got in a huge fight because she asked him to tour daycares and he said absolutely not. He wants her to stay home with the baby. None of his kids are to go in daycare. Admittedly, the ones here do suck. He called me to vent and then he dropped the bomb. He asked if I would be willing to take care of their baby since I'm home with our two and get help from my parents. And when I have to take the kids to the office, I can because I own it.

21:10 Oh, ring me. I'm getting a call. I got to go. It's the Pope.

21:15 Sophia's really popular today.

21:16 I have to go. I wish I could do that. But the Pope needs me. He wants me to be the new Pope. Oh, I got to go. Yeah. I'm going to be really busy. No, that's immediately no. Like, no brainer. He mentioned that I know how.

21:35 He feels about his kids in one of those daycares, and I sort of lost it on him.

21:40 You know how it feels when you have the kids in the daycare, and you go, you know how it feels when you cheat on me?

21:46 It was a year and a half of walled up anger and hurt. And I said some nasty things that I've since apologized for. By the way, this comes from Special Agent Garbage. And if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay story time subreddit. As Opie says, fast forward to three days later, new girlfriend pulled me to the side when I dropped off my kids to their house and asked why I was so ugly about it. And why I thought, My kids were better than hers. And why her baby doesn't deserve the same things mine got. Girl, what?

22:17 Because it's not my baby. That's not my baby. That's your baby. Are you trying to like live my life?

22:24 What a thought process to have.

22:25 That's insane. I'd be like, hey, do you want to go up to someone's random person's house, knock on the door and say, hey, take care of my baby. You should babysit my baby for free.

22:33 Yeah, because you should want the same thing for my child that I want.

22:37 Yeah, go up to any rich person's house.

22:38 Your children have a great life. My child could have a great life with you.

22:41 Give my child that life. I want your life.

22:44 Crazy. I never said that, but apologize if anything I said came off like that. Told her I'm happy for them.

22:51 I'm not, but pleasantries.

22:53 But was certainly not going to babysit their kid. She's a nurse, so I get she can't work from home and doesn't want to give up her career, but they should have thought about that. I left before it blew up again, but ex called me about two hours later and asked me to come get the kids because he and the new girlfriend were fighting and he didn't want them around for it.

23:12 This is a trick! And he's like, can you just take the kids now? I'll be back in eight hours. That's just, ugh.

23:21 I'd be so pissed.

23:22 Because, like, you don't want the kids to, like, see that and whatever.

23:26 No.

23:26 Obviously, because they're two and four. But, like, also, I can't just be at your beck and call.

23:32 I have things to do. That's so weird to be like, hey, can you pick up the kids? I'm fighting with my wife. Right? Weird. I pick them up, of course.

23:41 And X texted me on the drive home and asked again if I would babysit for them for $ 200 a week.

23:46 That is pretty cheap. A week? I said, no.

23:50 And he called me a bitter witch and said I'm being an a-hole because I'm hurt. Okay, cool.

23:54 I'll take that. Sure, sure. Yes, that's it. Whatever makes you sleep at night. You nailed it.

23:59 All right, cool.

24:00 They're your kids.

24:00 Have fun. I don't see it this way at all.

24:03 I reiterated that the request is absurd and I would not be talking about it anymore.

24:08 This was yesterday and all.

24:09 Day today, New girlfriend has been texting me and having her new friends and family review bomb my business.

24:15 Isn't that illegal? Isn't that defamation?

24:17 I think it is. That's defamation.

24:19 Oh, wow.

24:20 You could probably take a report for that.

24:21 That's insane to me.

24:23 It would be like, oh, like putting like zero stars.

24:25 Yeah.

24:26 Oh, my God. Wow. I'm not worried about it. My clients know my work. Oh, okay. Never mind.

24:33 Ex-husband hasn't said anything else, but has been shorter with me in our conversations about the kids. So am I the a-hole for refusing to keep my ex-husband's new baby?

24:42 And the verdict is not the a-hole, obviously.

24:45 Clear as day.

24:45 Not the a-hole. You are absolved because you are also the Pope. Self-absolution. I got you an awesome job. Congratulations. You are now the Pope. I showed that to my boyfriend and his brother and his brother's boyfriend, and they were cracking up. Isn't it so good? That's, by the way, guys.

25:06 We had him on the show. Tom McGovern, the guy from Wolf of Glendale, their new album dropped. Yeah, it's very funny, and he's a funny guy. And also watch that episode.

25:16 Now I am the Pope. More people should watch that, because we had a great time. Yeah, I know. More people should watch that. It's really funny.

25:23 Anyway, relevant comments. Tangerine daydreams, not the a-hole. I don't understand how they can possibly expect you to watch their children. This is not your responsibility. Does he know that you're still not over him? Asking because it sounds like he could be using your feelings for him to guilt you into this. Stick with a resounding no. OP responds, he knows.

25:45 I made a stupid mistake right after the divorce was final, right around the time he got a new girlfriend pregnant, ouch, and fell for his regret speech. We had spicy sleep and I told him I didn't want this either and maybe we could.

25:57 Work on things.

25:58 And we had been having the start over conversation up until new girl found out she was pregnant and he finally told me.

26:04 About it two months ago. Dang. So he's playing.

26:09 Yeah.

26:09 Playing with you. He's a freaking player. He's a player player. My heart is broken. But logically, I know we're done here.

26:17 I will get past it. Butterpie Scottish says, not the a-hole. This timeline is a bit confusing.

26:23 Did he cheat?

26:24 OP responds, yes, he was cheating with her for some time. I don't know exactly how long, but definitely before we were divorced. deleted says not the a-hole your ex's new kid isn't your responsibility not only that but i'd find it strange if you did babysit your ex's child that he had with his new girlfriend so not only is it morally not your responsibility but socially i'd find that weird clearly not the a-hole also i don't know if you have any custody agreements in place but i'd look into getting one he called me two hours later to get the kids is a major red flag yeah That's what I'm saying, because he can just use that anytime and be like, oh, and even use it for his own child. Yeah.

27:06 Like, oh, my gosh, emergency. Like with my wife. Can you hear? Please, please take the kids. I got to go. And it's like, it's just date night.

27:13 Yeah.

27:14 And it's like, that's not. See, we're going to be in the Turks and Caicos. That's what I came up with. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OP responds, we have 60-40 joint custody.

27:27 I got the majority because he works weird hours and it just made sense. He's a great dad, honestly. The kids think he's Superman and I want to preserve that.

27:35 I wouldn't.

27:35 We always had the agreement not to do big fights in front of the kids and he's upheld that in his new relationship so I can respect that to an extent. He did come over and do movie night and bedtime at my house with them that same night.

27:48 I mean, at least he's a good dad even if he's a terrible partner.

27:52 I think someone said in the chat, I think it was Christina saying, you know, if all those people were review bombing your business, why don't they take care of the kids?

28:02 Yeah, you just respond, hello, I'm sorry you do not like my service. Have you thought about babysitting his children?

28:07 I would say, if he asked me again, hey, could you babysit the kids that are not yours? I go, all right, well, I have options for you. You should make a list. Yeah, here's the list.

28:16 I'll take it.

28:16 Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite goofball host here. And we're going to get back to the stories. But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

28:24 A few of the repeat things I've seen addressed below. It looks like Google has flagged the influx of reviews for spam. And I did call my lawyer to see what she recommends going forward. Yes, my ex was cheating with his girlfriend for some time before we divorced. I don't know how long exactly and don't think I want to know. I'm also a licensed professional, so going against her nursing license is a surefire way to make this worse.

28:48 Lawyer will advise on how to proceed.

28:50 That's on her. Yeah, you're going to throw gasoline on fire already? Yeah, good luck. Have fun.

28:56 I don't mind if this is shared on social media. Figured that comes with posting here. Second, and probably final update for now. Google is removing the reviews.

29:05 Nice. Nice.

29:07 Whack-a-doodle and her idiot family all have the same last name, so it was pretty easy to see the reviews weren't genuine.

29:13 Nice.

29:14 The ones from her friends with different names.

29:16 Were removed, too, because, again, it was poorly executed at best.

29:19 X has apologized for her behavior, and apparently he is taking some time away, and she thought he was with me. I have no idea where he went after he left my house Tuesday night when the kids went to bed.

29:30 Don't tell me there's a third woman.

29:31 Oh, I'm sure there is.

29:32 He certainly is not staying here. We have only spoken to confirm pickup from swim lessons today. My parents had already planned... to have the kids this weekend. X has a graduation to go to, and I am going to the beach with friends, so I don't have to worry about where they're going since X is effectively.

29:48 Homeless right now.

29:50 Oh, wow.

29:51 Dang. Well, he's probably going to lose more custody.

29:55 Oof.

29:55 There's a second update. I just want to get into it. Yeah, I feel like OP is doing everything she can right now. And just don't let him get in your head. Because that's what he's trying to do. Yeah, truthfully, he is. He's in your head. He's in your head.

30:10 Get him out of my head.

30:11 Yeah, you just... Truthfully, he cannot just do that.

30:15 Like, there has to be, like, some sort of law or something where, like.

30:20 Zeus's law.

30:21 Zeus's law says.

30:23 To do what?

30:25 Like, that you.

30:27 Like, because she, I mean, she could just, like, take, or, like, she wouldn't have to take care of his kid.

30:32 Like, I don't know. Is there anything to, like, protect you from that? Like, I don't even know.

30:37 I mean, just saying no. Yeah, just saying no and then, like.

30:40 I mean, just getting a custody agreement for your children and then saying no whenever they ask you. That's all you can do. That's all you need to do. Update two.

30:48 99% sure a kid isn't his.

30:51 Oh, dang.

30:53 Well, that's a plot twist.

30:54 So now you're just going to watch some rando kid, even though that was a rando kid.

30:59 So the cheater got cheated on.

31:01 Yeah, unsurprising. Also, it makes sense because she probably knew, oh, he's going to leave me. Finds out she's pregnant and she's like, oh, yeah, this is yours. This is yours. Don't leave me.

31:12 It's a cheater's affair. Mm-hmm.

31:14 He and new girlfriend are lily white. I'm black and white by racial.

31:19 And the little girl is pretty obviously mixed race. She looks more like me than him, lol.

31:23 Uh-oh.

31:24 I am happy and healing and glad to be out of the mess with the both of them so I can get my life back.

31:30 Well, I'm happy for you. That's all. Get your life in order and ignore this guy and someday you'll get over him and it'll be like a terrible dream. Yeah, it just.

31:40 Unfortunate how it plays out, but truthfully, thank God it's not you.

31:46 Yes. Glad that you don't have to worry about it. Hands clean, he cheated, it's all him. Let him go, let him be, whatever. As long as you're being a good parent, we're all good.

31:56 Agreed.

31:56 All good here. But that's the end of that story.

31:59 My ex's new fiance demanded my engagement ring back.

32:04 I refused. So that's mine, actually.

32:07 So I, 24 female, was with Kin... 28 male. That's a name, by the way. Not like with kin.

32:14 I was with kin. Like a child.

32:17 Yeah, no.

32:18 This is the name, kin.

32:19 For five years on and off. We go back when I was in second grade and he was in sixth grade.

32:26 Bang. Had the biggest crush for a long time.

32:28 That's going way back.

32:30 I hope it was just you had a crush on him. It's kind of weird for a sixth grader to be like, I love that second grader.

32:35 How was your art class going?

32:37 How were your multiplication tables? Yeah, did you do them well?

32:41 We did get together when I was 19 and he was 23.

32:44 He is my older brother's best friend. Best brother? Still our best friends. Oh, I said brother's best friend is the one for me. My best friend's brother is the one for me. My brother's best friend is the one for me. We do have a two-year-old son together. Whoa. So you can get the backstory. Oh, thank you.

33:05 Was that the backstory?

33:07 Okay. That was all the backstory we got.

33:09 Dang.

33:09 It was like you just were kind of obsessed with him, and then you fell in love.

33:13 How does your brother feel about this?

33:14 He probably was like, oh, what the heck, dude? That's my best friend.

33:17 Dude, my best friend's now my brother-in-law.

33:20 Sick. That's actually kind of cool.

33:22 We broke up due to him moving to a different state a few months ago. Now he moved back because his grandmother is not doing well. We didn't get back together. He, however, reconnected with his first girlfriend from high school. Let's call her Molly, 32 female, who also used to date his older cousin, LOL.

33:40 What is happening? Why is everyone dating everyone? Small town.

33:45 For some reason, Molly never liked me, and I didn't really initiate any bad feelings towards her.

33:50 Gee, I wonder why his first... high school girlfriend hates you because you became his girlfriend.

33:56 Yeah, that would, that would be it.

33:58 I don't really know her, but she is good with her son. However, not good with me. I treat her with kindness when she's around and I usually leave her alone. She just gives me these glares and says a lot of really passive aggressive stuff to me, which I don't let get to me. Ken's family really adores me and I love them so much. When I was with Ken, He did propose to me with his grandmother's ring, which I still do have.

34:24 What?

34:25 Oh.

34:25 His grandmother also gave me her silver jewelry with turquoise on them. And some vintage western jewelry.

34:33 Dang.

34:34 You really lucked out.

34:35 Which were in the family for years. Dang.

34:39 Okay. Yeah. She likes you. Who cares about other ladies? Grandma likes you. Truthfully, I'd be dating the grandma at this point. Yeah, grandma's got the wealth.

34:48 She also gave me a very special ring and bracelet that I wear every day. The ring is a matching ring, which Ken has as well. It belonged to his step grandfather and his grandmother.

34:59 Geez, they really like you.

35:00 Either way, this comes from deleted. And if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay story time subreddit. However, Molly learned of this and she demanded I give her all the silver jewelry and the engagement ring, especially the matching rings. She thinks I should give them to her because she's going to be in their family now and I'm going to be second fiddled.

35:19 Well, it's so funny that you say that because actually grandma loves me more than you. And that's why she gave me all the jewelry.

35:27 Yeah.

35:27 And the thing is the grandma gave it to you.

35:30 Not even like him. Also, it would be so insulting, I think, to the grandma to just give that away.

35:35 To some other girl who she's like, no, I'd be like, actually, you'd have to talk to the grandma.

35:40 Yeah. Maybe talk to her about that.

35:42 Sorry.

35:42 I just have the ring on, look at it and go over my dead body.

35:46 It ain't happening, sister. She had said that the only reason I'm around is because we have a child. That's what you want to think. Of course I told her no.

35:55 And had said that this jewelry means so much to me and was given to me and Kin's family is a second family to me. That seemed to make her more angry and it got to the point.

36:06 I had to block her.

36:07 Yet she still continues to pester me about it. I did tell Kin about it and he said he will take care of it but it still is happening. His grandmother is literally like a second grandmother to me. I did lose my grandmother from my father's side when I was 14, and it was really hard on me until I met Ken's grandmother, and we talk a lot and see each other from time to time, where I see her as my grandmother. I cherish them so much, and especially now that she's not doing so well.

36:35 So Reddit, am I the a-hole for not giving it to her? Absolutely not. Do not give her those rings. She doesn't even like you. Why would you do her a favor when she's mean? And also, it's like an engagement ring.

36:49 That's Ken's job to be like, hey, can I have that back or something?

36:53 Which, stupid move on him if he says that. I think that's dumb. It's just not happening. Molly, as much as you want to piss and moan.

37:03 That's all it is. Pissing and moaning. You're just doing it to yourself. Because you're not getting any of this jewelry, buddy.

37:10 No, sir.

37:10 There's an edit. Everyone's saying I should give the engagement ring back. I forgot to add that Ken's grandmother wants me to keep it and Ken doesn't care for it. He wants me to keep it.

37:21 Wait, I'm sorry.

37:22 Someone said to give the engagement ring back? That's what I said.

37:25 I was like, I could understand if Ken was like, hey, can I have the engagement ring back?

37:29 But crazy for the commenters to be like, yeah, give the engagement ring back.

37:33 Yeah, no. My friend actually had a fight with her like boyfriend at the time over because she was married and got divorced and still had the ring.

37:43 And he was like, you need to sell it. Like, that's just a reminder. You have to sell it.

37:47 She's like, OK, like, I don't know what you want. That was before I met you.

37:51 So I don't know.

37:52 You know, so this is like a universal story, I feel. So does the rest of Ken's family. His two older sisters don't want it, nor his older brother. It's just Molly who's making it a problem.

38:03 Of course. There's an update.

38:05 Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fashion host here. We're going to get back to the stories, but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. So I was supposed to have a serious, important chat with Ken about his crazy fiance, Molly.

38:17 Oh, so they are engaged. Oh, I'm totally missing the story.

38:21 Yeah, no, I thought they were just boyfriend, girlfriend, but I guess.

38:25 Yeah, I didn't. I didn't. Okay. Okay. This is fiance. I didn't realize that. Oh, and she wants that ring. I actually totally misunderstood. Why would you want someone else's ring? I thought that they were still together, and Molly was... I missed the part where Molly was the new girlfriend.

38:39 Oh.

38:40 Who do you think Molly was? Yeah, I thought she was, like, an ex-girlfriend. Well, she was. Like, she was... He went back to... He went back to his ex-girlfriend. Yeah, he went back to the ex in high school, which is Molly. If I said anything that didn't make sense, it's because I missed that part.

38:53 And then I guess now they are engaged, which.

38:56 Okay. Skip that entire part. That was never mentioned. I completely understand.

38:59 Yes.

39:00 Can... If he wanted the engagement ring back, yes, could ask. It's not Molly's place to ask you. But also, I feel like if I was in a relationship and then the guy, like... Or if he, like, proposed to me, engaged to me. If he proposed to me, but, like, before, like, asked the last girlfriend to have that ring to propose to me. I wouldn't want it. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be proposed to with that ring.

39:21 That's very awkward, I'd be like, no.

39:23 That's your ex-fiance's ring? Yeah, and she actually wants it. Yeah, that's really weird. I'd be like, no, that's just a reminder of all the.

39:32 You gave that to her. Well, technically, again, Kin's grandmother.

39:35 Gave it to her. Yes, which even more so is like, that's mine.

39:38 Yeah.

39:39 We were to meet at a spot we both agreed on, and next you know, when I got there, Kin brought Molly, and I should have just walked away, but I didn't. I tried to be the bigger person. So I approached them both, and Molly didn't look at me until we started talking about her behavior towards me, especially around our son.

39:56 She started saying I was lying and just causing trouble for them. She really bashed me so much in front of Ken. For some reason, Ken didn't say anything and let her verbally mistreat me so much. I had to walk away, not before she admitted to destroying my art I made for Ken and gifts I got.

40:13 Him, our pictures together. That's really messed up. Okay, so she is crazy.

40:18 Yes.

40:18 Crazy ex-girlfriend, crazy current girlfriend. Also the fact that he's doing nothing. Yeah, he's literally just like, I don't know, my grandma gave that to her.

40:26 Not that you have to stand up for your ex, but the thing is, you can be like, okay, that's enough. Now you're just name calling, whatever. I'm sure she was calling her name. Yeah, I'd be like, hey, can we not? Yeah.

40:37 Do that. We're adults.

40:39 She's 32.

40:40 Come on. We can be adults here and just have a normal conversation. I couldn't take it, so I yelled at her and called her colorful names, which I know I shouldn't. Purple. Green. Red.

40:51 Blue.

40:51 Turquoise.

40:52 Blue.

40:52 Turquoise. Cyan.

40:54 Magenta.

40:56 Seafoam green. Seafoam green.

40:57 How could you say that?

40:58 But after everything, Seen Kin just let her do those things right in front of him. He was so unfazed by her tantrum towards me. I just told him, I'm going to go for full custody so I can make sure that crazy banshee doesn't be near me or my son.

41:14 Fair. Truthfully, yeah. Yeah. That was a real big letdown.

41:19 Yeah.

41:19 To let her just, like, say all that stuff.

41:22 And you just sit there. Like, that is the mother of your child.

41:25 What are you there for? Like, why are you there?

41:26 I guarantee you he's just sitting there because he's like, for once, I'm not getting yelled at.

41:31 He's like, oh, okay. She's talking to me. But just, like, dude, if you're unhappy, like, why are you spreading that?

41:38 Tell me you're unhappy by telling me you're not happy.

41:40 I couldn't look at Kin the same after that. No more at all.

41:45 I had to call my best friend Leah and my older brother Alex. After I left, I told them what happened. My brother Alex seriously drilled into Kin when he called him.

41:54 Oh, yeah, because they're best friends. Yeah. Oh, I forgot about that. Dang. Yeah, this is her brother's best friend.

42:00 Yeah, so she's like, yeah, he said nothing and they just call me names, blah, blah, blah.

42:04 Brother, he just said nothing. Dang. And he's like, I will solve this. Yeah, brother to the rescue.

42:10 My friend Leah comforted me and made sure I was okay. She told me she will help me with anything and that she's my biggest supporter. Also, what is weird is Molly liked my brother for some odd reason, but my brother never liked her, especially about how she was treating me and saw.

42:28 In person.

42:29 Leah did message Ken and tell him that he was an idiot and that she will throw Molly's butt out the window if she is ever to be near me or my son again. Ken did try to get a hold of me, but I blocked him on everything. I don't know if you can fully do that because he is the father of a child.

42:47 Yeah, you do have a kid together.

42:49 That if he wanted to message me or talk to me, he can go through my friend Leah or my brother.

42:54 So now here I am, gonna.

42:55 File for full custody and make sure he has supervised visitation. I will try to make that happen. I tried to be the bigger person, but I can't do it anymore. I can't have someone who is that unhinged around me and my son, especially when it was someone who I loved more than life itself. I can't do it anymore with him. This was way more than the whole engagement ring and silver jewelry. It's like she tried to erase me and be my little boy's new mom. And his own father just watched and looked like he wanted to make that reality.

43:29 Dang. Concerning. You were hurting. Yeah. I'm so sorry. That is tough. Dang.

43:35 I'm going to make sure to keep my jewelry and my son all safe. And I have my friends and family for help. But honestly, thank you all. I hope for the best for all of you beautiful people.

43:45 And there's a second update.

43:47 Oh, no.

43:48 I hope it doesn't get worse. I hope that you got full custody.

43:52 Yeah.

43:53 Yeah.

43:54 Or at least, like, you know, majority or something. Yeah, like 80-20 or something.

43:58 Ken finally realizes, oh, I don't like Molly.

44:01 Yeah, oh, wait. Molly kind of sucks. Yeah. Ugh, doesn't that.

44:06 Ugh. It's a bad taste in my mouth when, like, you've known this person and then they go for, like, a horrible person.

44:11 You're like, what? Do I even know you? Yeah, it's like, that's what you wanted? Yeah.

44:16 What?

44:16 You didn't like me, but you liked.

44:18 Yeah, you choose this absolute monstrosity over, like... me yeah it's kind of crazy.

44:26 I know this isn't related well maybe actually it is related but why did kin have to because you are engaged in a sense right op and kin but then he had to move to another state.

44:37 Why yeah actually i don't know.

44:39 And then he comes back and rather than continue your relationship because we don't have it's very blurry on why you guys did not continue your relationship after you had a child and then he comes back To see his grandma.

44:50 That's why I was confused. I was like, what?

44:51 Yeah. That's very blurried and muddied that I'm very like, where's the line where this got disconnected between you and Kin?

44:58 Yeah.

44:58 And now he's with Molly.

45:00 Absolutely. That's true.

45:01 I didn't even realize, like, they really, the only thing that, the only backstory we got from them breaking up is them, like, he just moved.

45:08 He just moved. Yeah, he just moved.

45:10 He just moved to another state.

45:11 I was like, yeah. That's why I was like, wait, they broke up? Yeah. And then they break up.

45:16 Yeah.

45:16 And then like who. It was so quick. Who got the child? Like what was happening there? Because they had already had the child and then he moved away. So and then he came back. Yeah.

45:24 What happened there?

45:26 I don't know. What happened? Maybe we'll get it. What happened?

45:28 What happened?

45:29 Update two.

45:30 After the whole messy ordeal, I did get a lawyer, which was my friend's uncle. I have gotten all the text messages from Molly and her friends. Just got everything in order and ready to go. I did show Kin's older siblings and cousin and his grandmother everything so they know not to trust Molly around. How deranged she is.

45:50 They all blocked her and she was no longer welcome to Kin's grandmother's house or around anyone. Kin did try to reach me after blocking him trying to explain himself I believe but I didn't answer him for a little while. My brother ignored him and so did most of our friends but I did unblock him and read all of the messages where he says he was sorry for everything.

46:10 to regretting breaking up with me, destroying our little family, and to saying he loves me.

46:17 Dang. Whoa, what a plot twist. Wow, I didn't need to know all that. Whoa, wait. Oh, no.

46:26 Wait, there's more.

46:27 There's more.

46:28 He wants to marry me this time, to getting me pregnant again, to wanting more kids.

46:35 He said he will leave Molly for me.

46:37 This is weird.

46:39 This is too, I would not touch that with a 10-foot pole.

46:42 I go, what's the catch?

46:43 The catch is Ken. Ken is the catch.

46:46 Do not try to do that. And by catch, I mean he's not a catch. That's crazy.

46:51 Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

46:52 I was honestly really nervous after reading all of those and listening to his voicemail where he was crying not to leave him or be with anyone else or marry them, which I wasn't dating anyone.

47:03 You literally already left me. What are you talking about? Yeah, I don't, dude. This is weird. This is weird. Very weird.

47:10 He did try to go over to my family's ranch, which is two hours away at the countryside, and my aunt didn't answer for him and told him to go away. She told me he had waited for me for such a long time and Molly wasn't there. He did leave and went to my brother's house where I was at, demanding to know where I was and our son. But my brother, of course... Told him I wasn't here and he needed to leave. It took him 10 minutes.

47:33 But he did leave.

47:34 I did block him again after everything and his actions are making me scared.

47:38 Oh, okay. Well, now this is not good. I mean, truthfully, I don't know him. Do you think that he would be like... Dangerous? Yeah, dangerous. I don't know. I think this is all just a little bit. I think he's spiraling.

47:52 Yes.

47:52 I think he's losing a lot of the friends and then Molly and then, you know, his son. I think he is spiraling and I think he's not in a good place right now, which is not your responsibility to fix. But I don't think that contact with him will help him either. Yeah.

48:08 He's spiraling and getting desperate.

48:10 Yes.

48:12 Like showing up places and being like, you need to answer me.

48:15 And it's like, dude, you messed up. It's too late. It's too late.

48:19 Yeah, it's too late.

48:21 Literally.

48:21 I don't think he did break up with Molly, and I'm sure she knows what's going on, but I don't know. Just a little update for you all, and if anything else happens, I will update you all.

48:31 Have a safe day, and there's a third update. They keep coming.

48:35 Geez.

48:36 I really hope it got better, and I hope he's like, yeah, I'm actually in a really great place. My son's doing well.

48:41 Kid got help.

48:42 Everything's fine. Kid got help. I'm married to another person who's lovely.

48:46 Ooh.

48:46 Still in contact with his grandma. Update three.

48:49 This is going to be my last update and final post. I have fully unblocked Ken again, and he showed me proof he had broken up with Molly and blocked her on everything so he can be in his son's life. We are going back now to our custody arrangement. All of his family are happy that she's out of the picture.

49:07 Ken did ask if we can try again. I did tell him no, and maybe in the future when we are both fully ready.

49:13 Okay, good. Don't go.

49:14 That is a start for sure.

49:17 And we take things very slow and cautiously.

49:21 And safely.

49:23 My big brother is kind of back to talking with Kin, not fully yet. Our friends are keeping their distance with Kin after what Molly has put everyone through. I did get messages again from Molly from a different account she made and started sending me messages like, I destroyed her life. Took everything from her. That Ken was hers first before we dated. That she took Ken's virginity and she was supposed to have his first child.

49:49 Dude, she's just going, Ken is just going back between two women. Back and forth. Back and forth between two women.

49:55 And if Ken and I have another kid, she hopes it won't.

49:59 Oh, she hopes bad things. Oh, yikes. We're going to leave it at that. That's when I blocked her again.

50:06 I wasn't surprised about her disgusting behavior, but still couldn't believe that Ken brought her around our son. She could have been training my child to hate me when I wasn't around. She's gone now, and I do worry sometimes if she will try to do something to me, so I plan on getting a restraining.

50:22 Order against her.

50:24 On the other hand, Ken is being a good dad and hasn't pressured me to get back together. He still does say he loves me and wants to hold me, but I make sure he knows there are boundaries between us and that I'm not ready for stuff like that.

50:37 Yeah, put those boundaries up stronger. Don't touch me.

50:40 I did visit his grandmother recently and we had a great time crocheting together.

50:45 Big wins. And it was fun.

50:47 But she's getting weaker and weaker, which is breaking my heart. So I am planning still to go see her. That is all I will be posting and will not be posting anymore.

50:56 Thank you again. And I hope you all have a lovely winter. I mean, it's the best ending we were going to get in this story. Truthfully, yeah.

51:04 I think you did everything in your power, Opie, to make sure that your son was okay, make sure that you were okay. And I think that's what was most important in this.

51:15 Yeah, and clearly very successful at snapping Ken out of whatever days he was in with Molly and making him realize that he was going to lose his son.

51:26 And everything else.

51:27 Yeah, and everything. Literally his entire life fell apart. And that was just, I mean, that was, it was him and Molly's fault. Like, none of that was your fault, Opie. None of it was your fault. Like, he had it coming. He had it coming. He only had himself to blame.

51:41 But that's the end of that story and the end of this episode. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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