Luenell: The Roast, The Rumors & The Real Tea

Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode of Reality with the King, I am here with the original bad girl of comedy.

Give it up for the iconic Legiondary Bunell.

Thank you, Hi everybody.

Yes, you look good boat.

You do too. You're so cute.

I haven't seen you fifth Hollywood's Down, Down and Glow and.

Go in Brooks' living room. That is my debut with you, and you're like this bitch is golden and flood one two steps in the half and I remember saying colors you better not you. You said, go, I'm absolutely.

See listen one thing about me. I ain't gonna lie.

Right, I'm not gonna lie.

You said you ain't gonna use this, are you?

I said absolutely? And absolutely. It was no.

Listen, how are you bed better? Are you thirty today?

No? I'm good, I'm stable. Okay. Why did I wear these shoes for the show and not for walking over and down?

You could put your leg up?

What you.

Oh?

We're doing that?

Okay?

Can you?

Oh? Sure?

Okay?

You're playing with it, baby. That's why you're having young men.

Young Men do come in handy for ship like that.

So when it comes to I'll be sure we're starting with that. How sure is al?

Well? What are you saying?

I mean, the fact that you are able to lift your leg up and touch your toes is the activity, you know.

I think that's a personal.

No.

Let me tell you, Let me tell you this, Let me tell you this, let me tell you this.

Go ahead.

Normally in my life I have told all my business. Yes, been out there, feet, rubs, kids, and I've done all that. Yes. For the first time at my age, I'm practicing discretion because he deserves it and we deserve it. I do so much. I guess some of this little pocket of love at this time in my life, I'm gonna protect it this time.

I love that and you should. So you're in love.

We are love I done been in love and the other motherfucker wasn't in love before. That's not that's not.

Yeah, And the good thing is this, I was.

Thinking about you a lot, you know, recently, with everything going on that we'll get into, but more importantly, the fact that you know, we've seen the journey of you.

You know, you have been in this career for many, many, many many decades.

And one thing I know you talked about, you know, even when you were working with the Yola at one point, you know, and doing interviews, you talked about love. And what I was so happy with you, right, was the fact that as a workhorse, because you work, Yes, yes I do, and I know that unfortunately at times, love wasn't a priority for you.

So the fact that you have found love.

It still wasn't a priority. No, No, it's not a priority. I've been married, I loved my husband, he has away. I have experienced the things that a woman want to experience. I got married, you know, we lived together, we had a life, So love wasn't a priority. I believe it's a necessity, and I believe that it's necessary, but I don't believe it was a priority. The beauty of this particular relationship with in some life is that it just happened and the friendship had been for like fifteen years before that. So, you know, my job is not to convince the world world whether they feel comfortable with what we uh, you know, if my job is not to try to convince you to whether this ship is real?

And what's real to one is? You know, it's all subjective. You know, are we dating? Do we go out to the movies and shit? We don't do that. What we got is a is a is a different type of wonderful trust and friendship and love and affection. And it's a soft place for the bad girl of comedy to land, you know what I'm saying, for a change?

Yeah, so what is different now than your experience before?

I don't need to be out in the club. I don't need the sections, I don't need all that shit. Actually I run from that ship. It's almost like I want to be invited to everything. You don't want to go to anything. Can I tell you?

I was talking to a teak, a Sumter, who's who's a really really good friend of mine, and she and I always laugh because we are homebodies, right.

But back in the day day day baby. We used to run the street.

What but she and I always laughed at even.

When we get invited, we don't want to go.

But if I don't get or we get married, we don't invite me. Excuse me? And I can't make it. How dare you the fuck? I wasn't coming anyway, you know, but you didn't invite me. So I bent about that all the time. But I don't want to go. No. Plus, I finally, at this stage of my life, I have two homes. I love them bowls. What is lavish and one is mid you know, and and and the lavish one.

I want to enjoy that, bitch. You know, I'm on the road a lot. I want to get in my pool. I want to you know, get my massages in my room massage room area. And I want to enjoy my kitchen and Netflix and chill. You know, I'm in hotel rooms ninety percent of the time, and I'm playing the other down ten percent. And so when I get a chance to be home, I want to be there. Why go to the casino and go to the pool? I live in Las Vegas? Why go to a pool? Far?

When I got a pool, why go buy drinks when I got them. I can smoke weed too and be negative if I want. So why get in a pool with fifteen hundred people, you know, somebody peeing when I can control who gets in this motherfucker right here, like maybe.

Eight So no peing in your pool?

I didn't say that. I can't control that. Have you been the dam jump here in my own pool? If I want to? So if you swimming my pool, you might be swimming some of my pee?

And oh, so have you been to these parties?

I went to one?

Or they're peing in the pool.

I don't know.

You know.

The only way to know somebody being there your pool. And so if you put that stuff in the pool, the terns bleue it from other fucking pee, then you just out. So that's cold, like I would never want to experience that because I pee in the pool.

Okay, okay, So when I come over to basic, you remind me, okay, I will, I will pray from the pool. Well, okay, how how were did these parties when you when you win?

I would not know how did these parties were? I only went to one?

Okay, so now I eat as plural as.

So, but I can't speak on what I don't know about. I can speak on what I went to.

How was that one?

How ironic? Now I'm not even gonna say what I was gonna say, never mind what it was. It was actually at the time that I went, it was a beautiful white party, black Heaven experience. You know, stars everywhere and women swinging on swings over the pool and acquadity what you call those synchronized swimmers in the pool and around revolving dance floor on white couches is like what Black Heaven would have looked like. I think they had gift bags. I didn't feel like, uh, I didn't think they had one by the time I was supposed to go with one. But yeah, it was great. I mean, and then and then I left, like like Marty Wayne said, and then I left early.

What time is early for lunel?

Well, what time is early forlunell? When time was early that night? And early? But I left early, I don't know, Maybe it was maybe around two am.

Yes, that's early.

Girls and the parties.

What's that's when you leave a party?

What do you mean a party? When you when you left Diddy's party at two a m. Yeah, people were a lot of people. The party was still happening, Yes.

Very much so. But other people were leaving too.

Who left with you?

I look Kim oh and face. I was with Faith. That's my girl, Okay, mine too.

So how do you feel about because you know, listen, you to me and when I say this is a compliment and I believe you'll take it, You to me are a legend, right and if I had to say to the audience, right, like who I think you are in terms of a comparison, although you're incomparable, you're like the female Kat Williams to me, you know what I mean when when I say.

That, yeah, you are incredibly smart and witty and.

Your comedy to me.

Is very informational and the truth and it's still and you and you find the way Lunelle to still make it funny.

And I think that's your superpower.

You know what I mean. It's a gift for sure.

Yeah, No, and you and listen, you are gifted. Because the thing with you is you've been around for a very long time. You've been very blessed with a great career.

What are your thoughts on things has been happening in the media, Because you know, I know, you talk a lot about your stand up show too, but when it comes to like what's happening in the world, how do you feel about Like be kam Hart Rose.

As an example, I think how I feel really don't matter at the end of the day. I think that the people who know me know exactly how I feel, and I'm just not interested in any of it. When there's back when Dean Martin them used to do it and stuff John Witherspoon, Problem, Mooney Jones, Rivers and all that.

They took digs at each other too, but they weren't vicious. They were like teasing, you know, and you know, if you're drinking a little too much, they might say something like that, be like the bitches. They may say something about that, you know, but they didn't intentionally set out to hurt people. Since the flavor Flavor Rose, I've had no interest in ros. I don't want to be roasted.

I'm not going to do it. I think I did a Snoop roast just because you know, with Snoop and I was asked. But I'm not one of I'm not that's not my that's not my superpower, you know, I'm not. I'm here to make people happy and have fun, and I don't and and and the other side of the coin is I'm not that bitch. I don't play them type of games. I'm from open motherfucking California and the ship that are not gonna let fly. I don't think it's fucking funny, and I don't fuck around. But if you don't do that, and you know you don't do that, then I would never put myself in that situation to do a roast and then get mad because bitch, I don't have to do it. I don't have to do it, and if you agree to do it, you're throwing yourself

in the lions dead, you know, So I just don't do it. I want to be happy because you know, I have motherfuckers hurt behind tens ship about me and mine and I don't want to go back to jail. Carlos.

No, I don't want.

I definitely don't want.

You to, but I just don't say like that. I just not my nine thing.

Did you watch it?

Yeah?

But you watch a train wreck to car crash too? No?

No.

The reason why I wanted to know I had to be able to watch it.

To talk on it, you know, people are speaking on it and only sell clips of it. But I watched them from beginning end live, so yeah, but I was also getting ready see. I got invited, but I could not go because of my residency in Las Vegas. So I was in Las Vegas watching it on Netflix. I don't think I would have win if I was even in town. I just don't do them. I just don't.

I don't get off on that. I don't like it, and it's it's me and it's nasty, shit, fucked up man, I don't like it.

Well, I wanted to ask you this because comedians seemed to be split when it comes to the art of comedy. I've studied a lot of comedians from you know, my days of watching Depth Comedy Jam and all those things, and.

Which I was never on. Why not no people? No, people say, oh I used to watch I never did death Jam. I only did comic view.

You know, comic people.

Yeah.

Were you not asked?

No? No, I was not asked. But I also lived in la They filmed in New York, so I think, well, I mean people travel, I don't know. I wouldn't add It's okay, I didn't. I'm not doing death jam, Yeah, it's okay.

So when you One thing I've learned is that a lot of people say, for comedians, a lot of them have a dark past, which is how you're able to get on stage in front of people, which I think is the most courageous thing in the world to do.

It's that a therapy. Yeah, you can get paid to get the therapy, or you can pay to gainst your therapy. Yes.

So one thing that the people are saying, and I wonder I couldn't wait to talk to you about this, is people felt that, Look, one, in comedians, we don't have any rules. We tell jokes and it's not personal.

No, that's bullshit. Comedians may not have rules, but people have rules and it is personal. It's personal. You know, that's bullshit. Even when people say that in your jail, I'm firing you two days before Christmas. But it is nothing personal. Bitch is personal, Sure it is, so you know it just it's gotten out a hand for me for me, and that's just it. I'm not interested.

Was a George Floyd joke that you.

Heard was that the final straw in the sense of things have gone too far. Kima Heart was recently on the Breakfast Club, and he said, what do you think about Kima Heart's response? Do you think that he's being insensitive or that's just.

Who is he?

That's the question. I think he's being who he is. If you feel that way, you know you feel that way? Are you surprised? No? But uh uh, it wasn't the the George Floyd joke was unnecessary. It was the lynching jokes for me. Why are you even saying the word lynching? Lynch? When we lynch Kevin, he's a Kevin hartser show. When we lynch you, we got to use a bonds eye tree lynch him. If I had a win and was in the audience just watching, there would be viral footage of me getting the fuck up and walking the fuck out.

You don't cross the line for me, you know, I'm only talking about me. I knew Tony hans Cliff before this. I knew, you know, uh, we have worked together. He's a cold motherfucker. He's a razor sharp motherfucker. But I had not been around him saying anything racial but playing like the Dozens with the motherfucker you can go. But I had not heard him say anything racial.

Now I heard it, do you not mess with him anymore.

After that, I can't say that, you know, because I'll I'll do a comedy show with Charles Manson for the money. That don't mean I mess with you. You know, if we had to work together, I just had I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mess up my money and he get his so I could work with him. We didn't sit down and have less together before. You know what I'm saying. I just know him. We have worked together in the past, and he's cold. He's a cold snapper.

But you know, for me, once again, it's like if you have a choice to say something, which you do, you can literally say, I'm not saying that shit, you know. But it's the way I feel about it. It's like remember back in the Cowboy movie, like let's say no in Roots or something like that, when some of your most respected beloved white actors were also in Roots playing slave owners. When they got to say I feel when they got to say the word like nigger, I feel like they always wanted to say it. Now they get a chance to say it and get paid to do it, and can say it under the guise of acting. But you really feel that.

Way and with that being said, not that put words of your mouth. Could it be that between the white comedians Shane Gellis as well, that they now had the opportunity to say it because one thing Chelsea Handler did saylud Nelle'm not sure if you saw what she said. Chelsea Handler said, they're racist.

I think that every white man that gets to say the word nigger under a vortex of acting or art. I think that dick gets hard when they said, and I said what I said. The only person ever even heard of having a problem saying nigga in an art farm is Leonardo DiCaprio. When he was doing Django. They said he had a problem, felt uncomfortable. I respect him for that, But in the history of my life, I ain't never heard nobody have a problem with it and say it just saying. I bet Danil wouldn't say it.

Have you ever heard him say in the Italian movie just saying.

Period, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

Let's get back into the show. As Kevin Hart. Industry planned.

Oh, I don't have no comment on that. I don't know. I don't know enough about the industry plan to comment on industry plan. But you know, they say he's a clone too. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have no goverment on that.

When it comes to comedians, especially black female comedians, do you.

Feel like you ladies get the respect that you deserve.

I think the people who have earned the respect get it. Like I mean, I don't want to name names, but there are females out there who have respect. Guess what. It's not a lot though, And that's and and and and and it's more than just being funny. You can be funny and be a dick to work with. You could be a road snitch. That's a bit tells all these niggas business. You could have a drug problem, you could think. There's a lot of reasons why it's more than being funny. Do you have a presence? Do you do anything else that's stand up? Are you trying to grow?

Can we see grow? So the people who follow you, they want to see you grow. They don't follow you to just do the same shit. And then there's people who do. Because I have found that every hack ass comic that I think in my mind as a hack has an audience as a following. As people who dig them even though they're dicks in my book, you know what I'm saying. So everybody got they fans, there's people who don't care. I guess that folks grow, But I think the intelligent comedy audience today wants to see you grow, wants to see want to see you grow, wants to see you grow in your comedy, wants to see you grow and make maybe business, you know, and do some other things that help some other comics that really deserve it,

or maybe do some you know, podcasts or YouTube things or skits or movies or tethers and not just you know, because you're gonna be in the club the rest of your life. But that's all fuck you're doing.

What was it like for you when you, ferson got started in comedy because it is a boys it's the boys club, And what specific when you decided that, okay, comedy is going to be my career. And what I know about getting your start in terms of comedians is it's tough, you know, like to get on stage, to even book the stage and all of those things.

Did the.

Industry embrace you or did you feel like you had to, of course be better than the men in order to get half of their respect.

But my story ain't like nobody else's story, and nobody else's story is like mine. So I had no intention of ever being the standard comedian ATROB. I was raised in the suburbs. I did theater, and I liked the theater. I fancied myself on Broadway. Ain't misbehaving, which Letacy is doing now, Ain't misbehaving. This is my favorite musical Black No Carter was in it. I saw myself doing that.

But my.

I was living in Long Beach. My roommate was sleeping with a comic and he would be at the house all the time, and I just be talking shit because I come from a shit talking family. I'm not the only shit talker in my family. So he would hear me around the house and he thought I was funny. And he said, you know, I managed this comedy club.

I host this comedy club here in Long Beach called Miss Wizz. If you ever want to come down to the comedy club, I'm gonna put you on a minute. You walk, you walk in because you're funny. And I said, I don't want to be in a fucking comic. I want to say background for Luca I want to go to Bradwick. You know, the drugs was good back there in Carlos and bitch you know what you wanted to do.

So but one day, like you know, like if you know anything about my comedy now, I don't tell jokes. I sort of like tell stories. And I have a guessed and I have been thinking about some things. I guess in the back of my head. I've been thinking about some things that happened to me. And me and my girls were sitting on the balcony a hot l a night, drinking homemade magarines, and I said, let's go down this club and see what this guy is talking about.

And most people who somebody says the minute you walk in and put you on, say they freeze. But I had been in church choir, I had been doing theater before, so I didn't have stage fright. I think that every comic could benefit from doing theater, learn how to use more use of the stage and contact with the people.

You know, uh, I think about theater background is great for for for us comics. So anyway, we got in the car, we went to the club and he was the guy was there and he seven, put you up next. I think like T the early T. K. Kirkland might have been on stage, and so he put me up. I went up there. I did like maybe eight minutes or something like that, and I just told this little story with her. I'm maybe two. And when I got down, this guy came over to me. This other guy came over to me, and he's a little short, dark guy.

He was like he was fun a little bit, and I was like thanks, and he said you need to come to my club and he gave me his card and the car said Robin Harris MC and host. So I met Robin Harris on the first day I ever did comedy ever. And then yeah, and I feel like Robin to this day. You were saying a female cat wisdom, I feel more like a female Robin Harris.

Oh wow, I mean yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes. So would you say like Robin sort of like did he helped guide you in the sind or like gave you some of the like ways.

To you know?

No, No, he dis invited me to the club and at this time the Comedy act Theater in Lemary Park District in LA Now remember I think I was yeah, I was a beach. He he just got me to come to the club. But then you met a young Jamie Fox and young d O Hugley and the young du We was young. This was before Comic View, and so then we met a guy there named Quinton, and Quinton used to see me on stage, I guess, and he booked me for my first gig away from just like the neighborhood, but it was still in like in La like a riverside somewhere or something like that, with d O Hugley, who was the first person I ever did shows with away from the club, and things just started like that. You know, I don't know. It's the Lord, honey.

The Lord moves some mysterious ways. And even though I may have a stern vernacular, I still feel like I'm doing God's work because laughter does it's so good, like medicine. So many people come, you know. I think this world is so you know gen ex gen Z based everything based on these kids. But I feel like senior sentences need a cheerleader too, And I don't give up fucking my audience be old and they be coming a wheelchair they come and walking and everything, but they need to laugh too. I'm the reason they got out the house.

I'm the reason they put on their clothes. I'm gonna go see Lounell and I don't care. I don't give a fuck about doing colleges or any of that shit. People at my age and older they need a reason to laugh, and I'm glad to be that reason. I'm not trying to. If you love me and you're younger, that's great. But when I'm talking to out, can't only understand if you're gown.

Yeah, well listen, that's why you have a residency.

Do you know what I mean?

Because obviously you have a fan base of people who like to get dressed and come and see you. How is it being in Vegas and having the residency for you.

It's like having a home for sure. You know, like a lot of people have a home club, you know, in Chicago, and this is your home club, you know whatever, And I feel like this is my home club. Now. I'm not so delusional to think that if I wasn't pulling numbers, it would not be my home club no more. Because no matter how funny you are or how cute you are, all that shit is great. I know a bunch of funny, cute, handsome comics that would look great in Vegas. But when they put your picture on that website, will you sell tickets? And that's really all it boils down to. It's cute you funny, that helps, that's great, but bititually by tickets come see you. It's just business.

It's Las Vegas.

Has the industry been fair to you? You think like when you reflect in your career.

I think that I have missed some opportunities that I wasn't afforded to get a chance to do. But I think that I can't say that the industry been unfair as I've worked my mother fucking ass off to get any of the recognition or money that I get, which fails in comparison to others. But am I comfortable? Yes?

Am I probably rich? And all my siblings maybe I got older brothers and sisters don't know if they be quiet, you don't know what the fuck they got, you know? And uh, you know? Am I providing for my daughter a wonderful lifestyle? Yeah? I'm doing all that. Do I still love the Lord? Have I forgotten sold my soul?

Not at all? You know? And I can be happy with that. I'm doing better than anybody, including me, ever expected and I have people who understand me and respect me and like what I do, and I couldn't act some more. You know, God is good. Amen. Yeah.

Is there a role that you wanted an audition for that you didn't get that you really like prepared for in audition?

Yes. I auditioned six times with Craig Brewer for the part of Queen b and Dolomite is my name, Divine Joy. Randolph got that role, but I didn't lose the role and lose a movie. Craig ended up making me Eddie Murphy's aunt in Dolovite, and my scenes were just me and him, which was better than anything. Once again, the Good Lord, you know cheers.

I mean, let's say, baby can chips law all day log that's you know, that's my language too. Working with Eddie Murphy, though, what was that experience like?

Well, it could have been a nervous way. But luckily for me, I already knew Eddie because I knew Charlie. Me and Charlie had worked The Rest in Peace, Charlie Murphy. Me and Charlie had worked our movies together. We had been friends, we had kicked it out of in his comedy shows and all this kind kind of remember they had the Black and Brown comedy get Down. It was like said and Charlie and George Lopez and all that stuff, and he was my friend. And so I had met Eddie back at the Norbit premiere and we spoke then and then projects that Charlie would do, Eddie would would see him, so he would see me. So when I heard that I was gonna be autism for Dolaby is my name with Eddie Murphy knows that Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy,

like Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy. And then they took me through like a bunch of like screen tests and everything and all that. But I didn't get the world, but I appreciate the world that I did it. And I literally stand by that movie. I like that movie. People trying to talk about that movie. That movie is great.

Son.

Were you surprised that there were negative responses to?

Yeah, yeah, I'm like what she was great? Man. I think Leslie Jones did the best job she's ever done in anything. And don't I mean not doing my inner Winterton coming to America. I'm sorry. I got my two Eddie Murphy movies. Anyway, shout out to Leslie for that. Yeah, but uh, I know that the negative comments for Dolomite would come because the white man don't understand some might have liked you any more. So you know there's some stuff I call O F t U only funny to us, you know what I mean. They don't get it.

What is your relationship like with other black female comics. It's like a sisterhood when it comes to that world, I like to think.

So, I don't think I have too many bad relationships. I'm sure I might have some that I'm not aware of. You know, everybody don't love to do now. You know somebody might, Oh, I've had a bitch, but you know, maybe at the bank bitch. So I think that, you know, the comments that I come in contact with the black female comics I've worked with for many years, or even some of the new ones, I think we're cool. Yeah.

Taraji has been in the news recently and I stribute saw the headlines. She is talking about what it's like to be a black actress in Hollywood, and she has been very vocal about it in recent I would say years, because she started to talk more about it when she was on the promo for the color purple, and she talked about how her black male counter park like Tyree's, gets franchise movies, but she doesn't get any. And then comedian Monique, who, as you and we all know, have always been outspoken about how she felt was the mistreatment of black actresses in the business when it comes to not only the roles you get, but once you get the role, you don't get the necessary treatment.

Yeah, yeah, I mean that's been happening to Sinus Dorothy Danders. So the mistreatment of black women and then underplayment of the black women in Hollywood is well known fact. If you go to and I just mentioned this comes in Atlanta, if you go to Tyler Perry's studio, the twelve studios, I think it's twelve that he has named after black actors and actresses. If you look at all the movies that they've made for white Hollywood and not now one of them got nawn studio named after him. Not nothing.

Maybe I mean maybe there's some like uh little you know, the it's the roll room or something like that. We're talking about studios. It's onundstages, yes, And when you go to Tyler's, you know you got Holly Berry would be Goldberg. I'll see Davidson, Ruby, d Sydney Poorte, Oprah Winfrey, you know, and it goes on and on and and you're just it's it's amazing to see so the underpayment and everything like that. I think it's about to change. If we can join with these younger creatives that are doing things without studios, just like independent rappers and things are our studios.

You can gain the popularity, you can make the money, and you don't. It's you know, it's just like the music industry is changing, the movie industry and stuff is changing. I don't know how we're going to get more black people in positions of power, more black people that can green light movies. More Spark Lee's more, John Singleton's more, Uh, Ryan Cooplers and stuff like this. We need more of that.

But some some kids are sitting in their fucking room right now working on that, working on doing that, and we need that because that's the only way we're gonna change. And we gotta cut off the head of the snake. You know what I'm saying.

Do you think.

I feel he's are all my opinion people not Opindon expressed by the hostess. The show is where I feel direct all comments to me because I got time today.

No, the thing is there is listen.

One thing about my audience is a very diverse audience. But obviously my largest demographic is black women of all ages. And listen, when it comes to you, you impart so much wisdom when it comes to just experience, and I know you do, and I listen, I don't think you get.

This my opinion, right, So let's talk about that too. Listen.

I think when it comes to black female comedians, you Monique would be Goldberg. Obviously, with be Goldberg, it's like the Yeah, she's the most she's the most decorated black female. I mean, deserves it all, does it all, and she's one of one, right, But for every Whoopy Goldberg, there is a some more, there is a lunel, do you know what I mean? And when I look at for example, you and some More, you two make me belly.

Laugh, right like you know, like the lab but you feel it from the gut.

That's what I go. That's what I yeah, no.

And I want you to know from my mouth to your ears, you you do that so you deliver that I am a black man as a producer and company owner in unscripted television the reality TV. So I know a little something about how the industry works when it comes to, like I said, black female comedians, I do feel like, and even Show Underwood, who I met recently too, I just feel like the industry is not kind to you women, And I feel like when you look at some of the black male comedians that they definitely have a leg up when it comes to opportunity to fil.

Black female comic that's selling out arenas. I'll wait, who who would it be?

I think Monique could? No, what do you.

Think I mean? I don't know. I've seen her do arenas with Cat sometime. I don't her own you know, I think if I had the white powerhouse machine behind me, maybe I could. I don't care though, I don't care about.

You don't care any more? Or did you used to care about?

I used to care when I was like on tour with Cat wos the only person who ever took me on tour. You look around and you're like, Wow, this is amazing that all these people, thirty thousand people came out of the house to see you. But see, I'm a different type of comment I'm a purist and en Row thirty eight. They may not be paying attention to what you're talking about. They might be filming, they might be texting. I'll be on the front. It might be you know, I would fight with their boyfriend that I pay attention. I really like them more intimate room where you are paying attention so you can feel what. I'm not just spending my mouth up here for the money.

I make money. I don't have to do this and just do it for the fuck of it. I mean it. I mean the shows that I do. I love the audience that I see. I want them to smell me. I want them to you even compliment me on I smell today, smell that way. When I do my shows, I want it to be a big sensory thing. I have a video that plays. I want them to feel me, and I want to feel them back. And I don't really feel it like that. I've been out there, you know, Chappelle and all that stuff, Radio City, all that stuff, but for me, I don't need it. I think that would be great if we did have somebody though, a black female that gotta have like other couple, maybe a couple of comments or by their subdue the special, But

I just don't understand who it will be. Jesus will send somebody down that would be the next black female funt phenomenon, because even if we we go back, I don't know if she can sell out an arena, you know. And there's multiple guys doing this, but they're not just doing it because they're on Instagram. They got a machine behind them.

Do you need the white male machine behind you in order for you to sell it arenas?

As a comment, probably probably the Live Nations and the things like that. That's not us and they're running it. They got it own lot if we do, you know, just like I said, where's the black promo collective that wants to you know, that wants to give give them a run fair of money? And then will it get you know, if this sh a criminal you know, when something happened to you, if you come along and start stepping on these big entities toes Because I don't know, I'm conspiracy theories. I'm always thinking the man out forget me, So you know, I would love to see all that though.

I would love to see him challenge. I would love to see, you know, a black female flourished like that. I'd ride with him that. I would want them to be able to earn it, though not just because you popping on Instagram. I would want you to be able to be a real stand up comic and be able to do that. If the Internet shut down tomorrow, would you still be able to You know what I'm saying, I I I just just me yeah, yeah. But there's you know, and not only that, these black comics got restaurants, they got franchises and this and that, and the black females said, just I don't know about them having that.

You don't hear about the US. I should say, you don't have a barbecue spot, or I'm building houses over here or doing you know this anything anything. Bitch is trying to survive, and I don't. I just don't know about black female comics and the ship that the guys. Of course, you know, they out there making.

Deals on the golf course and in the sauna, and you're not invited to those places.

Not really. I've been out on the golf course. I know why they like it out there without the bitches. It's peaceful'ful, you can drink, the guys can commiserate, you know, like girls get together the guys. You know, I get it, I get it, I get it. Really don't need no bunch of bitches out there unless they really know how to play golf and they're like, oh my god, can you help me? It was like golf swing, you know they like that, but a bunch of business there did?

I get it?

But why can't we get like listen, I'm I'm I. You know, I create wright and I pitched, But why can't like you She'll earned the wood, Tiffany Hattish some more, justs hilarious. Why can't you guys be with Whoopi Goldberg and say you're the queen of this?

Could we do something together?

Because I will say this, it is a boys club, and I think there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that. But is it time, though, Lunelle, for women to truly come together and show im prove that we had what it tastes? Queen's of Comedy was success? Was it as big as Kings of Comedy?

No, and everybody in King's Comedy got shows? And shit, I know women now this thirty years ago. I just don't know they had the same opportunity. But what is it you don't know. I don't know. I think they just want to keep bitches in the bitches's place. Why not, I don't know. I don't know why. I think it was because there's no women in power. You gotta get, you know, we gotta quit want to be the star and get to be up in their motherfucking boardrooms and ship like that and run and some ship. We need smarter more, you know, uh, determined to ask people in higher places. The only thing that's gonna change. Everybody want to be the motherfucking star. But you gotta have you know, you got gotta have a universe for the starting shot

in deep you know, and it's just got we need more people at the top. I don't you know, I don't know, you know, I don't know. We need fever And with the Eastern Rays though and the people like that, they're trying to do it. And I think that there's a lot of women that we just don't know about this coming. So I hope, I hope that's the case.

But in my lifetime, I'm trying to keep my residency. Do these little city winey get my podcast because I got another one coming to Okay, little about later and do my thing and make my money and stay happy and stay the funk out the way. I don't want to be in the bullshit. I want to live my life. I still got a private life, still got family. You know, My family keeps a motherfucker very in check. I have seven brothers and sisters like seventeen nieces and nephews. And you know you can't go with no func shit. I'm about to go to Arkansas and Augusta, be down there in the red dirt, you know, no jewels and all that shit, and eating buttermilk and cornber and a cup. Now, you know, I keep it real regular. I don't know,

I don't know, but there needs to be things definitely need to change. Yeah.

Do you think people are just afraid of being blackballed and that's why they just don't want to step on the toes of people in power?

Well, what do you mean? What do you mean?

Well, look, let's be real here.

We know that there are people in positions that could stop you if they feel like you're trying to take over what they're doing.

Right, Well, no, man, men don't want to work for women and they don't like you know, and that goes from the boardroom to entertainment big boss. Women always have a fucking problem with men, and they're insecurities and all this type of shit. If you're qualified though, too and you know what you're doing and you have to respect, I don't see why anybody has any problem with any of that shit. But I think maybe that has some things to do with it. Who is the bitch thing she is and that I don't want to work for her?

You know, It's just like that's part of the old boys club thing is they don't want a woman to come into these spaces. But there are women out. I know they're coming. I got faith, I know they're coming. I just don't know why things have happened the way they have. Those queens of comedy, all of them should have had shows. The only one who ended up with show was fucking Monique Lurry. Didn't someone didn't and they'll didn't why they were all there? What did Monique? But then what did Monique do that they didn't do? Did she work harder? Did she push harder? But did she do because there are things that separate you. Everybody can start out the block evenly, and there's gonna be some bitches that win so I think the ones who do

put in the work and push a little harder and maybe risk being called whatever and take it anyway.

What is your relationship like with money? You guys have one.

Yeah, we're good. We just you know, we don't want to eat and all that. But I've had her back and certain things that she has spoken on before, like wage disparity, shit like that, and uh, you know, we takes back and forth from time to time. That's good enough for me. That's good enough for me.

Wanda Sykes has a Netflix special. Uh what did you think?

I think if you're politically inclined.

And.

Because there's a lot of political stuff, I think if you're you know, up out, if she did comedy for intelligent really lugged in people, you know, which is a platform if that's what she used, If that's what you want to use your platform for, and there you have it, and there's a market for that and people will watch and people will dig it and it's on. That's put it on, right, Yeah, that was Netflix. And so yeah, you know, she had a lot to say, and she's not you know, while don't she comes from a certain perspective, you know what I'm saying, so I have to respect that too, because everybody got opinions and everybody got different ways of looking.

When it's all like said and done, when it comes to the stuff you've done so far, is there things that you want to start doing that you haven't had a chance to do.

Yes. I think everybody who's interviewed me, and everybody who's ever heard one of my interviews knows that my goal was to be the next black female in late night television. I was I've been told no by people who had late night TV shows, and now what do you mean? Okay? So I talked to George a little place. She said, they ain't gonna let you on network TV. And I was like, well why not, because you know, I do have the intelligence not to cuss our network television. I don't have to retch syndrome, you know, I know what to do. And uh. I talked to our senio. Arsenio said no too, they're not gonna let you on and we'll achieve it. I'm like, well why, And then everybody's well, well, you want to be yourself, and for you to be yourself,

you know you would be better streaming and you and I agree with that. I agree with that, But why not, though, why not Channel four at eleven thirty late night with Lunel Life from Las Vegas. Why not? You know, I can book guests just like anybody else. I have relationships just like anybody else. I'm intelligent. I have a Bachelor of Arts degree in English literature. I can write my ship.

I can. I know what the fuck to do. But there's been opportunities for me to be on network TV, but I didn't. I didn't get the call. I didn't get You know, everybody, lots of people with with with the I got to tell you, but I'm not going to tell you this right here, right now for them. I'll tell you one opportunity I didn't get. It has to get and I saw everybody. They tried everybody, but they didn't let me do it.

I'm assuming I won't say much, but I'm assuming it was when there were opportunities to sit in a chair to to start there.

But then I also know myself and I'm better suited for late night anyway, not really, not really, And after speaking to people in the position and the the hoops you have to jump through, I don't think daytime was particularly for me.

Anyway, Is that why you think Sherry show didn't work?

No, No, I don't. I don't know why they canceled Sherry's show because she has a demographic that adore her, that she had to work for in the on the on the flight of coming after Wendy. You know she built it. She wants to only bring like happiness and fun. That's what she did. You know, she does stand up so she can deliver. And she looked to breaking her clothes and all that stuff. And I don't know why they canceled her and not others. Some of others got canceled, some others did not.

Who do you think is gonna get canceled that they get canceled.

Well, I didn't think they're gonna canceled Drew Barrymore, just some the fact she did Barrymore and that Verry Moore name carries wait in Hollywood, right, And I think Kelly Clarkson wanted to leave as he walked away.

Yeah, do you think Sherry was done unfairly? Because respectfully, do you think she just could not get out of the shadows of Wendy because of what happened and that people, no matter how many ways she tried to make that show different. It was still like that halo over her, that this you took Wendy and these are people mind you took Windy.

Absolutely probably so I may have played into it, sure, But at the end of the day, they always say it's about ratings and it's about numbers and stuff like that. You're not pulling the radios. But you know what, if I had a four year network TV show, I wouldn't cry about it. And she's not either. She's onto the next already. Cherry always ran on her feet. They cut her from the view too. She got her on the fucking show show. She's already shoot in the movie, so you know she's fine. But I just, uh, I think that for years was fine. That was fine, That's what it was. You did it and she got to start in Hollywood Walk of Fame while doing it. So I ain't crying about nothing. I wouldn't be.

What are you getting your your star.

After my uh, after my podcast next year? The drops after my pod? Okay, here's my plan. You want to know, tell me we are not competitors, we're notts because I gotta book your ass to interviews. What I'm doing, I'm gonna call this card back in my research too, so you'll be getting fall. You can ask me anything as as me I know, starting with L. Be sure to slap you in your mouth anyway you put a leg up.

It was a segue.

Oh my god. No, here's the deal. This is what's going on with me?

Tell me.

Last year I had a comedy reoccurring monthly. Uh, limited engagement. A lot of people say they have a residency in Vegas. You do not. You have a limited engagement. If you do eight gigs in Vegas, that is not a residency. That is a limited engagement. I have a residency. I've been there seven motherfucking years since before COVID, every motherfucking weekend, okay, and just started taking vacation two years ago. So I had a monthly once a month, the first Wednesday of the month, limited, you know, reoccurring a date at this club in Burbank, Burbank. You know where Burbank is, Yeah, of course Burbank called Flappers, right, Okay. It was very very successful. I would have myself, I would have an

opening sometime myself and then a special guest comedian. You know, every time I did it, different people, So it was very successful and Jennifer losing. Everybody all all the dogs would come out and see your girl, right, and the club was happy. I was happy, and they said, let's do it again Nature. I'm like, cool, let's do it again Nat year only one day a month, you know what I mean. And it's in La and I got a house in La and I didn't come to La anyway.

So we did that, and then this year, I couldn't go back until the Netflix's Joke Comedy Festival was over. So that's over.

We're congras that.

Thank you. I had a ball. So this coming, I don't know when this is gonna drop. How soon does this drop?

With the like two weeks, so to be soon.

Okay, by the time this drops, this would be starting. My first Wednesday back at Flappers would be June. Okay, June, and I had the first Wednesday in June, July, August, September, October, November, and December. Right, I've booked all up. We're gonna I'm gonna do I'm not gonna have a comic infront of me no more. I'm gonna do fifteen minutes of comedy in the beginning. Gent I'm gonna have a special guests who will never announce the special guests because special guests sometimes have to change their plans and then you got to re advertisement shit. So please believe me though. My guests are no fucking slouches, and I'll tell you off air who some of them are. And my plan is to do those seven episodes with some of the biggest

motherfucking stars that I know, and then at the end of that, we will during the holiday break will like put a compilation together of cliffs of all those and shop that. And I want to do, you know, serious six some radio or Hulu or Netflix or something like that. If I have to not be on network TV. They don't want to be on a big thing and make enough money to get off the road a little bit, because Auntie doesn't want to be out every motherfucking weekend anymore.

You know, I'm not every weekend should I'm a be and some day I'm gonna be granny and I want to be home with my kids, not in some fucking hotel room in Notches, Mississippi. Shout out to Matches.

So we love that, and listen, like you said you want to. You may have a grand baby and we see that your daughter's here. By the way, she's gorgeous. Period, she's a gorgeous woman. And you know, listen, can you update the fans on how you two are, because obviously they watched and.

I'm like twelve years ago, I know, but you know that it ain't me girl. Their nosy, So they just want to know.

Was there a singer that you sent by matter? Send me your question?

I have, I have. My supporters are called the rain drops.

Yes, so the special ones get an exclusive opportunity to submit me. Oh okay, so you gotta build your community.

Oh on the podcast, my community, my podcast. I wasn't during COVID and so boom, they're ready. Okay, So my daughter and I are great. Of course, everybody still got rocky days. My problem has never been the action to the mouth, and that's you know, the kids these days, they get away with more than we ever did because apparently you can't beat them no more so anyway. But of course, like she's here with me now, you know, and she's my I always say she's my best successory.

You know, I got lots of accessory, but she's my best successory. She knows the business because she's a professional dancer and has tour and so so we have that in common. And you know, everything is a growing process. I had to grow, she had to grow. That was then, this is now. We still have our days, but I wouldn't take nothing for it, and I'll fuck motherfuck up and fuck with her. And that's O Dead Homies or whatever.

By the way, I have to say, HAX is my favorite show out right now. Everything it's it's I mean, so when you talked about Late night Comedy, I thought the Jean Smart char she's playing.

I see, Hollywood don't write for older women. But then they did, and look what happened, Emmy after Emmy after Emmy.

That's why I want you to know.

I believe in you, Amen, I really do believe in you. And I can see it happening. Thank you, and it's going to happen.

Amen.

All right, are you ready for my rapid fire questions?

H ship, Let you go so many.

It's not a lot, it's not a lot.

I'm here for you. Let me tell you. Carlos, Yes, baby, you don't limited the interviews that I do, even though, but I was like, oh, for god, I'm putting on all the things, and I'm yeah, all the stuff.

Thank you, John, I appreciate it.

Baby.

I like with somebody making sure that they come prepare.

Yes, it's happy as cute as you because this ship here.

Thank you know, thanks brain drops. Okay, so you ready?

Yes?

Okay?

Is this live? No?

Where are they coming from? Okay? No?

No, I have rapid fire questions? Yeah, okay, okay, okay, so you ready for it? Yes, I'm gonna start up high.

Okay, Okay, is this multiple? What?

No? So Pete Davidson, yes, okay. So obviously there was a situation you guys were on the talk show. You were touchy Philly. He said, he fuck uncomfortable. You apologize that, Pete Davison. What is your relationship like now with Pete Davison? And do you think people overreacted?

I think he overreacted, I think, But I also think that you may not have ever said that. I think maybe people might have said that to create a contversy because I was just doing like this. We had a blind fold and I was doing like this, like I'm touchy and so that I don't give up fuck about Pete Davison in that type of way. You know, I think he looked like you need a blood transfusion. He's paled. Fuck.

And I was asking him earlier, why do you think the girls are so onto you? Because why I don't get it. I'm sitting next to you, and I just don't get it. But uh, it was blown out of proportion. I was not trying to salt Pete Davison, And if I did, he should have been mad enough to pull his blindfold off and look me in the face and tell me like that. Because once we said again earlier, if you reference I say, I don't play them game, you got something to say to me? Say it. They gotta go whining off in the corner like a little bit and saying some shit. But he may not have even said it. It might have been a plant. It might have been an industry plan.

Now next, who is the biggest gatekeeper in black comedy Hollywood.

That don't tell people's stuff and don't share information? Yes, I don't know, I don't know. I don't have an answer to that.

Okay, which comedian is nothing like their public image?

Okay?

Oh, he's a sweetheart.

She's just very quiet, introspective and well read. And he's not out in the streets wild and like you know we have before and stuff and likes you know, peace, likes peace. I believe.

Have you ever been blackballed?

Maybe? Maybe, but it didn't stick.

What celebrity man flirted with you? That will gag people? That was shocked people?

Oh my god, I can't even tell you. Oh no, it would be so shocking, it would you would just you gotta tell me. No, I can't.

You got no way.

Your daughter says, say, you wouldn't appreciate it.

Is he married?

No? Oh no, honey, he's a whole gangster. I can't. Is he a rapper? Yeah? Does he?

Is he in his forties or fifties or older?

I can't.

No, No, no, daughter, she knows better. She know better.

Period. Who is it?

No?

No, I'm not telling. I'm not. He would not like it. And I say he's a gangster and I is he alive? Yeah?

He was just Yeah, he was just a Snoop Dogg. No, I'm okay, wait Snoop Dogg?

You doctor drem telling? Okay, wait, it's like black one. No, I'm not telling. I cannot. Look, that's how nervous I am.

But he's a rapper.

Oh yeah, a big one.

So he's West Coast? Okay? Is he big?

Okay?

So you're not doing this?

Not Dre? Not new. I didn't say not, Damn. I said, I'm not telling. And and Super's married.

Hey, I'm trying to guess, Jamie. So what's the three things I gotta tell you to night?

I don't date presidents no more, honey, that's another that was another.

Time such night wanted to sleep with you?

Absolutely not? Is its sure? And he he did. I'm trying to get And if I tell you, are you gonna tell?

No?

No? West Coast Okay, Snoop and Dre?

Who's who else is it?

If?

What's another question? Don't worry your little brain about that.

Okay, I'm gonna come back to that. Okay. Who got opportunities that they did not deserve?

In your opinion? And what respects?

Did someone get an opportunity that you didn't think they were ready for the same person.

The rapper, Jamie?

Who could it be?

I've taken guesses from the room. If you would know, bro, it's okay, Snoop, Dre, that's that's that's where we are.

How do you know that there's other West Coast rappers and dj Quigg, there's who No way, Daniell, Are you nuts? I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that? Oh anyway, Okay, what else y'all tripping?

No?

Uh but listen, I want to even tell you after if you're gonna tell, If.

You tell me after, I'm not I'm not shady like that.

My fucking daughter is over there and she's she's licensed together. Don't you dare? Don't you never ever ever ever?

And I mean that, Why okay, why don't you want to say his name?

Because it would really shake up that apple cart?

You and podcast? We shake up an apple cart?

Yeah, well, let's shake up cherries tangerine.

Okay. My last question I got okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, damn that was a god no way okay. My last question. Who in Hollywood switch up on you after they made it?

Hmmm? Uh, I don't know. I know, I'm terrible at answering. I'm not giving you what you want, But I don't know because if they did, I probably didn't know because I probably stopped fuckinging them first. Mm. Okay, So I don't really know who switched up to me. They would think it would be me that switched up from them.

But since I'm you know, fairly accessful, but it ain't me, motherfucker is Yeah, a couple of people who you don't really know in the commonsary the industry have distanced themselves from me when we've been close. And I think it's because of my time has gotten much dinner and I don't have time to kick it with you like I used to. And I also I'm very more picky about in my house, so maybe they might say it's me.

I love it.

Well, Lunelle, tell the rain drops and you're fans in the world, how they can support your residency.

How can they buy tickets and all the products that you have coming up?

My cash have to okay, baby venmo Zelle, No, okay? My uh my website where you can go on there and see am I coming to a city near you and also purchase tickets that said shows that are on the site. My website is Heylunel dot com. Can you put that graphic h E y l u e n e l l dot com haluneil dot com for all tickets and information. You can order my fragrance on there.

You know, I have my own fragrance out too one. It's called iconic one, it's called Legendary. They come a body period. Thank you, I humbly thank you. They come in body creams and a roll on oil and a spray. My Heylunel t shirts which Danelle, where's the bag that? See? My t shirts look like that? With Shurotsky quest tools and you can get the face of the microphone of the toad bag at Heluneil dot com as well. You can follow me on Instagram just at Lunel at l U E n.

E l L.

You can try to DM me if you like, but there's no promises because I got told I used to answer all my dms you're crazy.

No, I stopped that shit child.

After it got to me, I was like, oh, I'm just talking Toil like the first test out.

Be sure slotting your dms.

No, because we didn't even have dms. I don't think we weren't doing dms when we first met. We met like fifteen years ago.

That's when I first started dating.

No, we don't date. We're grown. We see each other, we spend time together. We don't date go out and get ice cream and shit. We I mean, you know, we have done that, but I'm just saying, do you guys do it? So we're gonna start with am.

Do y'all do it?

Or no? Or is it? That is personal? I told you you want me to sit here and say I suck at fucking deck? Is that what you're trying to give me this? Do you? I'll tell you if I do, if you knew everybody going ahead, if I dye, murdered, suicide, please, no shade.

I'm just saying, give it up, allow down, you are amazing.

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