Mama Drama: Belle Collective Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue

Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. So Blue and Claudia, as Dustin gets back on, let's get into Bell Collective. All right, Rain John's Bell Collective every Friday, eight o'clock seven Central on Own.

The first scene I want to get into is Latree and Cliff.

Okay, Latrees is much younger than Cliff, in case you haven't noticed, so at the beginning of the show, Okay, Dustin's coming back in perfect time.

You got that?

Do you know their ages? Liters and Cliff Like, what the ages?

I want to say, and Lula Timara got this wrong.

I want to say they're like fourteen fifteen years apart, or maybe more than that.

I think, Well, he said he's fifty sick, right.

Mm hmm, yeah, so she's early forties.

No, she's in her thirties, so maybe twenty years almost twenty.

Years, maybe eighteen years maybe, yeah, so let's stay close to twenty Let's just say twenty years around that time. So since the beginning of the show, Cliff always wanted La Trees to have a baby.

She just wasn't ready to have one.

She was like, I don't know if I want to be a mom, and we follow that story and it just went nowhere because she was like, I just don't want to have kids. What happened this season and me being honored because I'm such a jaded producer because I think everything's fake. So, long story short, the producers came to me true story and said, hey, so Latree's supposed to have a baby, and I said, this.

Is Bullshit's a fake storyline. I'm not interested. They said fine.

Two weeks later they're like no, like she's actually getting to arguments behind the scenes with Cliff about having a baby. So I said, wait, is this really true? And they said, actually it is. She really wants a baby, because as Dustin has been watching watching it since day one, she never wanted a baby, and I always applauded her for being a woman who's like, I just don't want to be a mom. So come to find out, she did have a health scare this season Blood Claus.

She had to get surgery. Cliff wasn't there.

When she woke up out of surgery, and she felt that, oh my gosh, who's gonna be there for me to like take care of me? Like it was the realization for her. And when we're learning this season is she really wants to have a baby and that was her AHA moment. So Dustin, starting with you, we saw Clip and Latres get into a big argument about it.

What are your thoughts about all of that?

And are you too shocked that all of a sudden Latrees wants to be a mom?

No, Latreza never really said that. She didn't flat out.

I don't ever recall her just saying like I don't want kids. I always recall her saying she wanted to wait. So I'm not surprised that she now wants to be a mother. Typically, you know, biological clocks are something that people feel, and maybe that's just where she's at with it. I just wish Cliff would be a little fucking nicer about it. That's how I feel I wish he would have kind of like entertained the conversation in a different way as opposed to having a goddamn smirk on his face, his nose and lips curled up and his eyebrows up, all of that shit. You know what I'm saying, Like, just be a little bit more gentle.

She doesn't have children. This is something she's sensitive about.

Your old ass got five, you know what I'm saying, So, like, just be a little bit more gentle. So I wasn't surprised, and it's probably a lot of people that's gonna give the tree some flag for waiting.

But I don't know.

I just I feel like fifty six is not too old to have a child. Maybe I'm speaking out of turn or whatever, but fifty six, Cliff is an old ass. Fifty six though too to think about that though, you know what I'm saying, he is, you know, sedentary, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so maybe you know that is a little he's a different type of fifty six.

I don't know. I just wish he would have been a little nicer about it, that's all.

Claudia.

I think she totally has a right to change her mind. And if ten years ago was when she said no. At twenty eight, that is a young to have a kid and to put the pressure, and you should be allowed to evolve in ten years into eventually getting there. I think she got the right age to wanted a kid. You know, she's had time with this man, she can feel secure with him.

I mean, what's the.

Rush that twenty it's young to have Nowadays people having kids later in life and also when you have a healthcare I think that puts things in perspective. A lot of women didn't want kids until they were told they were come fertility issues. And when you feel like you can have it, then you can change your mind.

There's nothing wrong with that. He should be a.

Little more sensor.

See the fact that he has five kids with other women that are not his current wife. But the current the wife now can't get a kid, but these other women did.

That would piss me off.

And yeah, he can make an argument, yeah I'm old, but so what she's young should be around to take care of it. I don't think her reason to have a kid that don't want to take care of me. Usually the kids, not that you didn't put you shoudn't bring a kid.

Into the world for that.

But I think she has the right to change her mind.

I do.

Blue.

I don't even think she changed her mind. I think she grew up because the thing about twenty eight is we know that your frontal lobe congeals mostly when you're twenty five, but most.

Thirty five.

So if you have ADHD, your brain didn't even fully develop until you were thirty five years old. When I was twenty eight, I could barely take care of myself, and then I evolved. I didn't change my mind, I grew up. So my thing is he got her super young, and she's having Most ambitious women I know at twenty eight are not thinking about kids. They're thinking about their empire.

They're thinking about their brand, their business, how they want to do stuff. Then they hit that mid thirty mark, maybe late thirties, and they find a decent man. They're like, oh, actually I am ready. Now that's something really natural. Before I knew her age, which is why I asked before I knew her age, because you know black women, we could be twenty five or sixty, So I was like, is she a peer or she a little sis? Right?

And I was like, well, if she's a peer, I'm on his side because if you are forty and he wanted to have a baby and he said no, And now it's been a couple of years, you missed the window. But if she's that young, her age is why I ask because her age completely changed my mind. Now I'm like, okay, now he's playing in her face because the age that he was even asking was inappropriate. At that age, at twenty eight years old, most women who are ambitious now the girls will go to college to get an mrs Degree and want to be a wife. But most ambitious women don't want a baby till about the age she is. Now, all my homegirls started wanting kids who didn't already have them in their mid to late thirties. And so I

actually think it's unfair. It's not what I asked you. You had me ten years ago.

Ha ha. It's more so now that you're a grown woman who's ready.

For a child. Do I want to be a partner? You don't get to laugh because you offer it prematurely. So to Dustin's point, I think that I don't want to call him an old man, but to have a man in his forties. Trying to force the girl in her late twenties to have a baby and her say no is normal. So have a woman in her late thirties now want one is also normal. I think that she's having a regular clock and I don't think he's being a good partner right now.

It's given payback, like you didn't want it when I want it, So now that you aren't old, I'm gonna say no to you because you said no to me.

Yeah, it feels like spike.

Even though I think she's right on time for wanting a child.

I will say this though, right if we look at it through the lands of clap who is fifty six years old, he does have five kids at the time he wanted At the time he wanted kids with her, they've been married for ten years.

He was in his forties.

He was probably around my age, right, I think, maybe is there's something to be said for a man being like when I if I have a baby at fifty six, fifty seven, when my child turns eighteen, I'll be seventy five. Like, is there something to say that he doesn't have the stamina to deal with wanting to be the best parents because of his age and mobility.

Yes, there's something to be said for that, but that's not the way that he said it, And that's what the problem is, because that makes perfect sense if you're fifty six fucking years old and you already got five kids, you know, you wanted a baby at a certain point with your partner and now they want one. You know, of course anybody would take issue that that makes sense.

That's not how he framed when he said it to her, and that's what made it sound crazy. He immediately got combat and going back and forth talking about glean, I'm a dude, Gean died, give me. Doing all that shit he was doing and saying all that stuff, it made it negative and combative when he could have just explained it plainly like you just did, where it makes sense and it shows some fucking regard to your wife's emotions about something and sensitive about as being a damn mother.

You know, it's just a way to do it. And since he wants to use the old card, his old ass should know how to deliver information like that in a softer, more gentle loving way.

It seemed like he likes to clown her a little bit, though a lot like.

Yeah, that his stick.

I think it's selfish if you're a forty six year old man dating a twenty eight year old girl to try to force her to do something early. I think that's that thing you said Carlos would make sense if his wife was forty. If I'm forty six and you forty and I said let's have a baby. We both getting tired, and you let the window pass for ten years, and now we're both about to get our ARP cards.

Yes, totally makes sense.

But if you are going to date at forty six, knowing that you're old and tired a twenty eight year old, it's selfish a center your time clock and not think about hers.

I think her age makes itself.

It's reasonable in general, but with that age, I actually think it's selfish to ask somebody I'm in my forties right if I was a dead at twenty eight right now, which I would not, there's certain things that make sense for me that I would have to factor him in that I would have to temper because of him.

So it's selfish to be thinking about you what you can't have both.

You cannot say I'm tired at forty six while dating marrying a twenty eight year old.

You can't do that.

Yeah, People saying, oh, she knew what she was getting into marrying an old and man. Well he was the adult by getting with a young girl young and she might not be ready for your grown man activities.

Like that's a big deal.

It's selfish at that age. At that age difference makes it selfish. The logic is sound the age difference. If I'm forty sixth day in a twenty eight year old, there's certain things I know that he doesn't know yet, and I know he doesn't know that yet because he hasn't hit his thirties yet. And I'm gonna be like, you know what you might I think you want this, but I know you you're gonna want something different. Let me give you some grace. He didn't give her no grades.

He was being selfish. I actually think to Claudia's point, he's upset he couldn't bully her or coerced her into getting away from her big boss lady thing. He's like, oh, you want to be a boss baby, Look at you, no baby.

He has comments brought up deon Sanders and Carucci, and one of the things that me Claudia and Erica cop talked about on your podcast accidentally informed.

Was this notion that listen, age.

Differences is when it comes to man and woman since the old days, has always been a thing, right, There is something though, as somebody brought up Deon Sanders and Carucci. Deon Sanders was in his sixties. Yea, his sixties and Carucci's in her thirties. I'm not mistaken, right, is there this thing as we're talking about the age difference between men and women to go from Tracy Edmunds, who has blue pointed out right when it comes to like if you're dating somebody close to your age, where you both are about to fill out the ARP card, right, And I'm not calling Tracy Edmonds, Oh, what I'm saying is obviously she was closer to his age than Carucci is, right, looking.

Like that fifty nine, My god, you could look maybe if you're watching, please give me your prayer, your dietitian, all of those things.

That we all had dinner a Crusacean last year.

It's like a Claudia, I'm gonna call youa blue and dustn't in person in.

Edd no shade looks younger.

Than mostly everybody Okay, okay.

There's something to wear.

Because I actually I was kind of going to no shade. I was kind of understanding Cliff more just being a person who may be scared of being immobile raising a kid. But Blue pointed out something so interesting that I'd rather focused on this part now that we can move on to Matt Carey and the moms. I never looked at it as if you decide today someone younger, you also have to.

You also have to.

Retain the sort of idea that this person is going to want things that you don't want in your same timeline, because your age gap is so severely gapish that the timeline is there. But when it comes to mandating women like a Deona Samon's Carucci with that's a thirty year age difference, what do you ladies think is the reason behind that choice?

Because when you have someone like Tracky.

Edmonds, extremely gorgeous, she has her own money, she's a multi millionaire, she's a she's a career woman, to end that relationship the moment you.

Became obviously this big girl name.

Now for somebody thirty years younger, is there this sort of like epidemic happening?

I don't think he left Tracy for her. Okay, they broke up and then they got together, but she was down and with them when he was going through a lot of health issues and she had his back. And I also think certain men like Tracy is the type of person, not saying that Cruci isn't alike, because she is. She's extremely talented, she's beautiful, she's sweet, very like, I have nothing but good things to say about her. Tracy is a she's a boss right, Like, She's going to get that attention when she walks the room, not just because of her looks, like her presence, and that's not for everyone. And there are some men that like that maybe in the beginning. This is my opinion, this is what I'm assessment, and it makes them feel away, you know,

And sometimes these age differences make them feel like the teacher, like the Some guys like feeling like like they have an experienced boss woman. There's not a lot of new things you can introduce them to as opposed to like a younger woman. And I just feel like some guys like that. And also when they get older, like what Diddy got with young Miami. In my opinion, it seemed like he wanted like a shot in the arm of relevancy and youthfulness to kind of get that kind of going, get the people talking. It's not a news story if Diddy dates someone his own age, just like with Jan Sanders.

But it is a story and it is like a subject of interest when it's like, WHOA, what's this about? And we've never heard so much about his dating life until he's got with Karuci. We heard someone with Tracy, but with Carucci you hear a lot about it. And I think people that attention is addictive and let's not act like Jan Sanders has not been a lover of attention's entire career. He's been very flashy. He needs people to talk about him. He made a rap song. Must be the money, the jewelry, the things. He's very gregarious and loud.

He's a bit you know, he's I don't know.

But after that, that's im'll say about that. I had to accuse myself and the rest of his com.

I'm going to cut my eighth I'm go ahead at what's happening, dus you want to say it?

While he's coing, I was to say.

That as a woman, I have been called a cougar before, because I've never dated a man older than me, so I've only dated men who were younger than me or just my age, and I a couple of years ago was entertaining someone who was ten years younger than me.

That's I'm never doing that again. By the way, don't recommend I.

Was dating a young man who was ten years older than me, and I realized it was mutually beneficial because there was a level of because he was attractive and a lot of women liked him are impressed by him. He liked being around a woman who could show him something because he got tired of being the one happened to be the prize. But what I found interesting was he rejuvenated me. It wasn't like he was like, oh, I'm being a predator and he does on mind. We had lots of great debates. But when you date a younger man, I've heard a lot of women in their forties say this, When you date a man in his thirties and you're in your forties, there's a sweet spot there where he's young enough to be open to feedback.

He's not one of the older guys who wants to be.

A misogynistic because he's more progressive, and so I did a younger men because they were progressive and they were fun and they kept me light. When we fell out, though, is because I was old enough to check him, but he didn't like being checked. The girl he dated right after me was five years younger because she was easier to control. So I've noticed this whenever a younger man dates me and me being too hard to control. Because Claudia's point, I'm a grown ass lady, and it doesn't work out. They always late younger girls afterwords to reassert their dominance. It's happened every single time. So I'm not saying it's a scientific study, but based on my own love life, men who date women who are equals if

they don't like how much energy it takes. The win is the younger girl who's more glamorate and more interesting. Because you guys will know, I've lived the full life. It's kind of hard to impress me, right, But people are like, well I know souls. I'm like, oh, I know her too, and they're like, well, damn, I was trying to impress you, bitch her too. Sometimes men want to want somebody to impressed some kind of life into them, I don't know.

To me, like, once you get into your old is Caruchiuchi.

From years they said, Dianas fifty eight of the twenty year age gap.

This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

So she's thirty eight, he's fifty eight.

To me, once you get in your Caruci is a grown ass woman, you know what I'm saying.

Caruci just has a baby face.

And I think because she looks like her facial she looks so much younger. You don't think thirty eight when you see her. And Dionne Sanders is a mature look in fifty eight.

So I think that the.

Visual, yeah, the visual is a little jarring when it comes to them specifically, but to me personally, I don't know. I might be the only person here, but like thirty six fifty six, once you're in your late thirties, to me, we all wrong, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's not like a shocking age difference to me for somebody who's thirty eight and dating somebody who's fifty eight.

To me, like, it's just you're up there now. If you're in your twenties. You said, what would you day younger in their thirties? Yeah, I would date like mid thirties. I've dated.

My ex was what four years younger than me. That's that's the same peer group.

Like something fun about the thirties something I.

Didn't feel like I'm a day younger for sure.

Yeah, I'm a youthful person for my age. I still be out, you know what I'm saying. I'll be up late, ship like that. You know, play music loud in my apartment. So it's just you know, but I just feel like if you're in your thirties, you wrong and people need to mind it.

Agree, people be happy.

I'm a dustin. For me, I'll just speak myself. You at least have to have a.

Three for sure. If I'm not doing it.

Too, I can't do it nor no more like wrong with you.

I need three. The threes are fun, The threes are give me a three. Two no, and Shannon Shark definitely not a one.

Move on to the.

Next topic of discussion, which is Matt and carry.

So we talked about the big age.

Yeah, which a lot of the brain drops in the comments section are going in on.

It was I love so I want to get into this topic. So listen. None of us are married on this panel.

But obviously.

I'm still trying, y'all. I'm still trying.

You want to get married, Blue, You want to get married. I actually, here's the thing.

I want to get secretly married. I want to know one day drop it on y'all. What are you this weekend? Blue? Oh, I got me a husband.

And then like, I don't know if I recommend it though, like it's good and bad. It's fun in the moment, but then you're like, why do we do Let's like no one, no witnesses, no new like.

You know, something's wrong with it.

It was the white wedding chapels, all moldy in there. That's why I went.

I want to go to the courthouse and do like the steps, like you know how Harry and and and Meghan how they were on the step a beautiful white dress, all the steps like a nice picture, and then throw a party from my one universary and we're celebrating that we made it a year.

And I agree.

David Justice and his wife Rebecca, they got married like on some courthouse in Vegas, like and they've been together. They never had the big wedding and they have been happily married for like twenty some years, like.

Waltistically the small of the wedding along of the marriage.

I was just about to say, the thing is this when you have a big as somebody who.

Has produced six wedding specials and more than it didn't work out for none of them are still married.

Oh maybe it's you, Carlos my courthouse, Carlos, I'll send you a postcard.

No, I.

Did not give me ant. I was literally going to make a point when.

You have when weddings are a big production, oftentimes it's less about the love and it is more about the show oftenness of it.

Yeah, and oh one wedding I've done, thank you.

Memory that they're still married is Keith Shing Gucci you Yeah.

They're never getting divorced, So that's a good.

One married so strong. You can sit on her lap on the boat.

Oh who did that? Yeah?

Yeah, people talking all the all them weird ass people online to talking ship making an issue with that like it was inappropriate in some goddamn way. Meanwhile, their marriages are what here be broken okay, and they're still together, so okay, okay.

I want I want to marriage, not a wedding, so I don't care about the wedding is cute, but to me, the marriage is more important.

I want a wedding thing.

About to say that, Claudia, I want them ceremony to if I'm gonna do it.

Yeah, we we like want to show off mix all the sense, like yeah we.

Are, like we're paying the town. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna give you a moment to reflect how much I.

Want to do this. I want to do that.

But privately I'm with Blue. I don't want I will It'll just be me and him and we'll have a nice dinner and then that's it.

No, we want the.

Exit that loss us and hurt.

See y'all want a spectacle and I want to Yeah, yeah, what's wrong with that? Don't even think he's going to the wedding. So he's like if I show up as a party.

Yeah, I want the great healthy relationship and the show off antics and all that.

I want the gifts. I want the bridle show.

I'm wearing white.

Don't worry about how many people have been Withney business.

I'm with a veil.

In the church. You know.

Though, I'm just gonna say, do you believe in the evil eyes about who you give access to intimate?

Well, once you do reality, that evil eye ships out the window and you got a million evil eyes on you.

Now right now people, someone's watching. I can't stand that bitch right now. You gotta imagine my wedding. I'll tell you that much.

Sorry, it's one thousand someone with veneers way too big for their mouth, and you know, chicken pox scars on their legs.

Mad right now? Oh my, okay, let's Pa Carlos all right?

Right, So there is a big mother in law war happening. Claudia Jordan's with Carrie and her husband Matt. Their mothers aren't getting along.

In this recent episode, we saw that Carrie's mother in law pretty much doesn't think she is living up to her role as a wife and a mother and has problems with it and his voiceing it and it's putting Carrie's husband Matt in the middle. Claudia, what are your thoughts on that? And when you were married for four months you have issues with his mom?

His mom liked me, and when we were breaking up, they like the parents came over. They were trying to talk to me because I had all this stuff packed by the door, change the lots. It was like talking to me and they let him stay. I have to say this, and I already know people are gonna make a thing out of it. Carrie's mother in law?

Who does she look like?

To y'all? Who's the first person that popped in your mind when you saw her?

I'm gonna say it s no think shadier.

Chat?

Who does? Come on?

It's obvious the glass Chat?

Okay?

Is the Chat going to its four bus.

On pens And I know Claude okay to work with m Hm Terrycus's wife Paladeen. Y'all ain't ship there's another Palden wait t balls.

Okay, I'm gonna say it looks so much like al Reynolds.

Car okay. Claudia just reminded me of out with the glasses and the light, the hair. I don't know.

I was like, oh, like we could be a relative against the Claudia.

I see it though now that you say, I wish we had to, but I see it.

Est look AT's face I'm having.

I had I had a good weekend, you know what I'm saying.

Oh, y'all, trying to restrain y'all, like I'm not easy.

That's your aries brother, me and Blue who in our small weddings up to.

I mean good, I'm just saying she's from like the glass, like the same glasses, like the toxedo jacket.

I was like, oh my god, like she reminds me a song right now? All right, whatever, that's fine. I'll see I.

Saw simply holding the years. You know, you know what I'm saying. I saw simply rid. That's who I saw.

Your truth and thoughts, No, Claudie, what do you think about the whole favorite.

Of Matt was wrong for sending his mother to go have a conversation with Carrie when they know they already ain't feel like they already don't have a great relationship, right, So I thought that, like, why did you send your mom over there to do that?

Like it was never gonna end, right, It was like made worse. It was triggering.

I felt bad, like I'm like, don't send your mom over here, you know we don't get along. And then on camera too, and then she came with some glasses. She kept like being all snippy and stuff. I was like, damn, be funny though, like good character for reality TV.

But like no win situation.

You know what I mean, like doesn't have the cutest boyish look.

Right, yes, old rock style. I should have kept that to myself. Alexa Reynolds.

Said, blush so hard. I'll come back to dust that, Claudie. Are you you want to add now?

I said enough.

I think you think she said enough?

Are you serious?

Hey, give me the rope.

Like you want to, claud talking about you know, come on.

Jesus, oh my god.

Well I thought it was messed up because that lady's a housewife. I'll have to do it side by side.

Now, go ahead, Blue to luzbe trying to make that look thoughts not win. I will say this respectfully, respectfully, it's too late.

To say the Titanic right now? Okay, are you trying to patch it? The holes in the boat now? The ice bird already hit. The boat is compromised. The boat captain. I didn't think simply read.

It's a white it's a white soul singer. It might be simply read, No, it is simply red.

He was in the eighties.

That's that.

Yes, Yeah, I'll keep holding on and you want my thing.

Yeah, it's simply read with that haircut.

Can I see it? I'll keep holding on. I mean he was wrong.

Then there we go.

A little like edwards to the hand, like a little bit like that, like a little.

Listen me and doesn't have the same kind of ADHD because I always get it like I always.

Okay, no, okay, professional we're journalists. No, so that we lost those a long time ago.

Is nowhere?

Girl is the integrity? Okay? No, here's the thing. Matt and his mother.

My mother loved the money, but have a problem with the work. And that annoyed the crap out of me because the lady sat down and she said, you a great you're a great mother. She did say she's a great mother, so she didn't attack her mother. She said, you're a great mother to a shitty wife. And my son needs somebody to cut up his meat. And I said, well, your son sounds like a pulsty, but it's okay. Like the way she was talking, I was getting upset because like your son a grown man. He's a grown man.

He can wipe himself. And respectfully, that lady was a housewife. She don't know about running three million dollar businesses. Right, your mother and her Cocker two haircut, can't give me directions to a place that she's never been before.

Christ hold it together because if you lose it, Alution.

I just think that she was not the right person to have that conversation and for her to be so spicy while her mother is sitting there.

To me, it was disrespectful.

That lady seemed real nice watching her daughter get talked too crazy, And I think he's the problem, because how do you bring your mother into it?

Don't tell your wife that you brought her into it and then say, y'all bring in drama.

Okay, that's a good point.

Dustin Ross say focused, I can really be serious.

I'm kidding.

Speak nowld your peace.

So okay.

First of all, this is one of my favorite fucking scene in the episode, number one, number one. This was my favorite scene of the episode. Okay, Miss Marlene woke it up. Miss Eleanor sat there and played the tennis match doing like this.

The entire time. I love the fact that Carrie's husband told his mama that he was sitting there at lunch his mama. Yeah, and I want her to do that too. Well, maybe you need to say something to it. Maybe you need to go over there.

He totally hyped his mama up, sent her in there, and then when he talked to Carrie, him and Carrie was both lying.

He was sitting there talking to Carrie.

Maybe I should I say so when he set her up, Carrie sitting there like she came.

In talking about you. I'm a bad mom, a bad wife. Mind you.

The lady had just said you a great mim. I just don't want you to see you just don't see my son. It was the perfect storm.

I loved that.

Scene, and I also loved the fact that it was not no knocked, drag out, get nasty, mean ass fight. They have a playful banter which was well, as is evidenced by Carrie's mama, Miss Eleanor saying.

Don't y'all start don't y'all start doing with y'all?

That's what That's how Carrie and Marline what's her name, Marlene, Miss Marlene, that's how they go back and forth. That's their banter, you know what I'm saying. And even though they was kind of serious, but they were still playful. It was respectful. I enjoyed it, and I can't wait to see another scene with them. Mama's tam be In and you.

Will made it made me think about tag.

This show is unhinged, all right, so the time Okay, So rain jobs, Claudia Blue does, and I are now going to get into the latest episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Thank you so much. Collect them once again.

Bell collects them every Friday, eight o'clock, seventh Central on own and make sure you guys, I know the South Archaic.

Just do it for me. That's our DBRs.

Yeah, do it.

One more note on Bell Collective, One more Bell Collective note.

I fucking loved that.

My second favorite scene was Latrese, Tambra and Marie sitting down kicking it at that cigar bar, laughing, being girlfriends with one another.

That felt so good.

As a person who watched that show from season one, we always wanted that.

I'm glad they found that space.

I think they make a good group, the three of them sitting there talking shit. I love seeing Latrese's host Marie's blind date and come to her defense at first, like what's your intentions with my girl? They've been together for long enough that they're now on that arc of their relationship, and I love that so I just want to I love them scenes.

That was good.

Thank you, Dustin, thank you, and listen, I will say this.

And that was perfect timing as we get to Atlanta, because I have a lot of unpopular opinions about this episode. I know made surprise the three of you, the rain drops as well, but to to go and piggyback off what Dustin just said. So Claudia and Blue Latrees and Marie were like the Porsche of the show since season one.

They just did not get along.

They were almost fight, almost gote to physical altercations, almost almost.

We have a swifty security team shout out to them. But what we have seen this season that has really stuck. It has really stuck.

They found a way to be like, look there, and there's two things I'm not ashamed to say this.

Number One, they all feel like, how much more fighting can we do with each other?

Like over it?

The fans don't want to see it anymore. How can we find a way. I had to talk with them too, like this show can't last and you too don't have any real beef. Right.

It was like Drew and Porsche what you're describing?

Yeah, So Drew and Porsche and it was a well good to that too, and it was for me the opportunity what Dustin said, because I always said to them, you guys have more in common.

Than you don't. And the reason why it's stuck because that's the difference.

Kenya and Pedra didn't stick because and I don't mind saying this, that was also us saying we're sticking tire of Kenya versus Fedra.

And the reason why I never stuck is because if you know Fedra, Faedia.

Will never give King at the time of day and listen, I think Kenya also knew, based on the Apollo situation with Fedra that she would never trust Pedra. But they did their job for the show, but it never stuck. I applaud Marie and Latrez for it's sticking and reunion and you're going to see a lot of surprises too there.

But thank you Dustin for acknowledging that.

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