A LAP-se In Friendships: RHOA Recap with Dustin, Claudia, & Blue

0:03 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

0:36 In honor of Kelly Ferrell, I'm wearing a T shirt rain Drip because I'm also on a budget, so we need to get into that. Okay, I really enjoyed this scene. And this scene is Kelly meeting with her not her. I thought it was her hers, but clearly based on the language in the scene, she was meeting with a financial advisor, which to me.

1:09 No shade. Kelly never met that man until she put a mic on no.

1:14 Shade and guess what, it's fine. So she met with this financial advisor, and in this scene we are learning more about Kelly's finances. Kelly is saying that her Nana's chicken and waffles McDonald's location makes seventy five thousand a month. She's saying her second location in Sandy Springs pulls in fifteen.

1:39 Thousand a month.

1:41 That is a total of ninety thousand dollars just in terms of what each restaurant is making.

1:48 Right, that doesn't mean she pockets all of that.

1:50 And if you know anything about owning a business, you ask the CEO.

1:54 You pay yourself a salary.

1:56 So Raindrops is not like Kelly is pocketing the ninety thousand. What we did learn is her monthly expensive Claudia Blue and dustn't includes a two thousand dollars a month range drover, six hundred dollars a month for car insurance. Her beauty budget is around twenty five hundred, her hair budget is around three thousand a month, and her clothes is roughly around eighty five hundred a month, with a total of twenty two thousand dollars a month. Kelly said that she is used to being a housewife where she did not know how to paste some sails like her car notes.

2:36 And before I get to you guys, I just want to start.

2:38 By saying this, and this is why I was mad at doctor Wendy, who I love in real life.

2:45 I don't like when you girls play dumb.

2:48 Not saying you were playing dumb, but you can't be educated owning businesses and let all of your finances be at the hands of your husband. And I'm not saying you should pay anything right, however, if you are married to this man, you should know.

3:05 How much your mortgage is.

3:07 You should you should be aware about your finances, and if he wants to do that, that's great, but you should never put yourself in a situation to where if he decides to leave you, all those things go away. And I think it is such a wake up call for women like marry the rich Guy. I gotta be honest with you as I'm watching the Polygamist married.

3:34 Who's a Capricorn Blue Marrying.

3:37 Reliever Rising.

3:41 Episode Marrying the Rich Guy, I would love to hear from you about this first.

3:48 It's not the flex y'all think it is.

3:50 It's just I don't know any woman in my personal life that's happy or or or or was happy. I think when you look at your clause and all those things, that's great. But ladies, there are rich men who are good people. There's rich men out there who believe in God, who have the ability to be a family man who actually respect women, who respect their women's gay friends, who actually want to see.

4:23 You do well in life. Right.

4:26 And the thing with Kelly, I applaud her for being so transparent. This wasn't a scene where she looked the best in terms of understanding more about her. But I love the fact that she traded in the embarrassment for us understanding more about what she was going through. And even when she was looking at the house or her realtor is like the elevators, all those things. I just think, Ladies, I just don't know any rich woman, I'm sorry, a woman who's married to a rich man that is truly happy.

4:54 I think it's I think it's smoking mirrors. But Claudia, again, you have been in the business for every long time. You dated rich men too, and your friends have. Do you think that there is this sort of wake up call that women need to have that a merriga rich man where you don't understand where your your bills are being paid.

5:17 It's not the flex that your mother raised you to think.

5:20 It is.

5:22 Our mothers were were encouraging that back when women really were just getting the ability to have credit cards and get takeout mortgages.

5:30 So I understand why they would do that.

5:32 But now almost every woman that I know, almost every woman that I know that is with the man that has.

5:37 Bred, just accepts that the cheating is part of it, and.

5:40 The no time and they're there, they have things, so the lot of time, they wear their their happiness, the things they want you to think they're happy on their on their sleeve there there on their body. They're the jewelry, the this, the that, then the other. The people that I know are the happiest are married to people that are good people and hard working people. Maybe they're not multimillionaires, but they're like blue collar or upper.

6:04 You know, middle class whatever.

6:06 Of course it's we're being very gentle, but I mean, every rich guy that I've ever talked to has been just kind of thinks that they have a different set of rules if they go by. Of course, you'll find a unicorn every now and then, but for the most part, it comes with a certain level of narcissism, a certain level of being unavailable, a certain level of thinking that the rules won't apply to them, that of course I should be able to have other women. I'm rich, I'm successful, and they don't think the same rules apply for a successful woman, like somehow we're supposed to be able to remain traditional and all that. So, yeah, a lot of women I know that are married to what except I got to keep going back to one of my favorite couples,

6:43 Rebecca and David Justice.

6:45 You know, you've married at halle Berry.

6:47 They've been married for twenty some years under the radar, but they they're very happy and they don't but they're also away from the Hollywood stuff now. But other than that, I know a lot of people that are just kind of just accept that being cheated on this way, it's part of it.

7:00 And do you think what are your thoughts on Kelly and her expenses?

7:04 Do you think do you think Kelly has learned a lesson or do you think unfortunately with her new boyfriend buying Sunny five thousand dollars worth of veneers that she is still not getting it because Sunny five thousand dollars, I would have taken that and bought some real.

7:24 Estate me if that was even an options, you know what I mean, Maybe he wasn't the type of just give her the money. Like a lot of times people will do something for you, but they're never going to give you money where you can like bounce with it, right, so let me just do things for you. There was a girl, a really popular video model. Her name is Sulen Madeira. She was in Chris Brown videos all kind of stuff, and like there was a really wealthy man that would like really lace her with things, but.

7:47 Never the money.

7:47 So you can leave, right And I know I said her name, but she's talked about it. You don't really have the freedom to leave. So yeah, you got the teeth, you get the bags, you get the trips, but you're not really getting that deposit in your account. That's when you have true freedom. I do think she's gonna get it.

8:03 I do think that. I do applaud the being honest. Like being in Atlanta and being on the housewives shows, it's odd everyone.

8:14 It's pressure. There's immense pressure to live that life.

8:17 I never had red bottoms and so I did Housewives right, like instantly, you girl, you can't be going on them, Jessica Simpsons, you have to have red bottoms.

8:24 You have I'm like, why why.

8:26 Can't I wear my al though?

8:27 Girl? You house.

8:30 Like Jesic Hills.

8:31 They are cute, and so I just didn't expect that Yeah, I'm very honest, right, and j Lo too. She got some key shoes, Okay, y'all if we keep it in a buck all my red bottom.

8:44 And it wasn't until uh do meet.

8:46 You Solace, that was like, girl, my thousand dollars on.

8:50 GHOS store, go get you some shoes. She's both being I'm like.

8:52 God, damn it, trust me.

8:57 If I was never on that show, I.

8:59 Would still be in just the Simpsons and j Loves Okay, I'm just letting you know.

9:02 Right now for drills and all those Carlos.

9:07 So anyway, I think she's gonna she's like she got one for like she's one. The vulnerable thing is what's gonna make us like her and appreciate her. But she's also in Atlanta, where it's so run by the bag. Everyone has the same channel bag, the same bbl, the same light bulb, the same weave like everyone.

9:25 There's not a lot of individuality.

9:26 Like it's like status things you've got to have out there, and it's gonna be hard, but it is a good step in the right direction showing us I think I do like this.

9:34 And I want to say this, by the way, so guys, I know I love all the girls. When I talk about my female friends, I'm not talking about reality stars. I want you all to know that. So because I saw somebody say it should me and I happy. I don't want when I say my friends, these are people I see regularly in my life out side of work.

9:54 So I'm not talking about a housewife a reality star. Nothing. Go ahead, dustin your thought Kelly.

10:01 If Kelly getting it or do you feel like based on the scene that she has some more work.

10:08 To do, Shout out to Kelly, because Kelly is giving us a very honest portrayal of some shit that's probably real fucked up for her to deal with, and I think she's handled it in a very respectable way. This is a reality show, Carlos. You always say we follow the reality. This is what's going on. Some of the reality may be dramatized to make it more exciting for television, you know.

10:30 What I'm saying.

10:31 Like that conversation with the financial planner where she was talking about the lashes and shit.

10:35 You know, Kelly's making good TV, but at the end of the day.

10:38 She's facing something that I know the fans are giving her a lot of scrutiny. You know what I'm saying about, and placing her and her a lot of scrutiny over. I think that it felt like throwback old school Real Housewives sitting down in an office talking to this financial planner. It took us back to Charay and the party planner, who gonna check me boo. It's one of those scenes, one of those one off scenes that is impactful to her story and we don't forget it.

11:02 I like Kelly on this show.

11:04 I think that she's being honest, her being short tempered in the moment because she going through something. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's what that is. I enjoyed the scene. I think it's great. I also think that rich niggas get a bad rap because every wealthy man is not some sexual devian who wants to be deceitful and cheat on women and dog they partner.

11:26 It's a lot of niggas.

11:31 It's a lot of wealthy men who actually would gravitate toward a partner who is somebody that they can respect and who will make them want to do right, and who will who they want to provide a very beautiful life for everybody is not on the file ass shit.

11:47 I think that when it comes to go ahead, I think that when it.

11:52 Comes to entertainment, we often are We often see these sensationalized relationships where the like the ladies on Real Housewives of Rhode Island. How there are all those accusations against ruler's husband and shit. We see those because those are interesting fodder for like entertainment and television. But it's so much quiet money. Every rich niggas, every rich man. Excuse me, I'm trying. I'm trying, y'all. Okay, every mich rich man is not a celebrity. There's so much quiet wealth in the world. So many men who are just wealthy beyond whatever and live a quiet life. They're not out in the mixing in the lime, like they just living good, taking care of their wives and shit. And those are the women who are probably saying no to being on

12:35 these damn shows because.

12:37 All the time you see what I'm saying.

12:40 So I just want to clear that up because people feel like.

12:43 If you date a rich man, you doomed for infidelity and disrespect and all that shit. They don't even be like that. I think you can live a very good life. And I still think it's possible for a lot of people, including Kelly and her relative Lady looked just like Vivian from Real Housewives a Potomac. They friend Vivian, Karen and their friend and refused to be on the damn show.

13:05 You know who I'm talking about, Carlos.

13:07 I thought that I thought that realtor was Vivian from Potoma.

13:10 Thank you, Luta Lusla your thoughts on Kelly the budget be financial advisor and wake up call for women who are living a.

13:24 Lifestyle to where they just aren't aware of what's going on in their home.

13:30 This is a quote by Schaer where she says one day she was talking to her mother and her mother was like, share, you need to marry a rich man.

13:37 She said, Mama, I am a rich man.

13:39 Ooh, we're talking about Mary Richmond.

13:42 That's me.

13:43 And when I saw this scene, I one hundred percent knew that Carlos King was going to.

13:47 Pick this scene. Because I knew.

13:49 I was like, I actually had all these numbers memorized. I'm like, he's writing down these numbers as we speak.

13:53 I know he is. I see you, brother, I trust me. I'm starting to see the brick.

14:01 I'm gonna be very transparent right now, Okay, because I trust y'all and I love y'all, run I run a small business. It shocked me that we make more than Kelly does and we're digital right for a brick and mortar, those numbers are actually shockingly low. So as a business owner, I wasn't thinking, oh, seventy five K, fifteen K. I was thinking, oh, baby, how are you doing this?

14:23 You have payroll, you have overhead, you have inventory, you have insurance ADP.

14:27 Like I'm thinking as a business, but I'm like, these numbers are like abysmally low. You can't function like this, and you're still emotionally spending twenty two k. And also my financial advice has pulled me aside last week, so I got a little trigger.

14:39 I'm I'm gonna hold you.

14:40 And she said, you shut down a couple months ago. Why are you still spending like this? I said, excuse me? Like I just got chin checked last week by my financial my roe one. I was somebody I met on set, and that conversation is an ego commerce. It's like it's an emotional one. We don't talk about how emotional money is.

14:58 We know her heart is breaking up by her divorce. But like when you are someone who's like, I'm running a business. I'm proud of myself. It's a big part of my identity. And then something happens where your business have to be put on pause or in her case, maybe stop all together or file bankruptcy. It is seen as a failure in your mind unless you have a conversation with yourself, like, hey, baby, maybe we can't take a black car to target all the time, you know what I mean. Like I've had to have those conversations with myself. I'm not going bankrupt, thank God, I look at God in my hon wood. But like it is an emotional conversation and for her to share something that's I'll just say this, my numbers are better than her,

15:31 and I still wouldn't be that vulnerable on camera for y'all. So for me, I'm just like, she's braver than I thought. She's way braver than I thought. And also too, it probably shows me why Shamia being in her corner is so impactful for her. Right now, your friend who is up, rather than pitying you, is looking out for you, letting you stay at her townhouse, being like like somebody you can vent to helping you traverse through all these other rich bitches with their big old houses when you're looking for just a place to lay your head with your kids.

16:00 Like it made me understand why her and Shami are reaching for each other. It humanized her. I loved it, but I'm also now concerned for like girls, you okay? My first thought was are you okay? Though, like show was.

16:12 Sad that number didn't include her rent or mortgage either.

16:15 That was glam in her car and that's it.

16:17 I was like, she didn't say anything about.

16:19 Her cell phone bill, a health insurance, so it's even less.

16:23 It's lean. It's so lean, y'all.

16:25 So for the people, the average person who hears seventy five K, they're thinking, oh you rich, No, no, no.

16:30 Overhead, and that's fine.

16:31 I had to point out that, like you said earlier, Blue, the thing is, that's that's the money the business is making. You got to pay employees, you got to pay your business taxes.

16:41 So her profit that was the whole company.

16:48 That's that's.

16:51 How can the one take in fifteen thousand?

16:54 Well that was and that's the reason.

17:01 And I'm only bringing this up because we're talking about this and it's on TMZ. It wasn't featured on the show yet, but that's why when TMZ recently revealed that in Pinky's latest bankruptcy filing, she said, I make six thousand a month, right, And what a smart person on Twitter or threads outline was that's how much she pays herself as.

17:25 The owner of the business. Right.

17:29 It is not She wasn't saying that's all I get from my other whatever. But I think that's the biggest thing in terms of the fifteen thousand a month location is closed.

17:39 The thing is this. Claudia also brought.

17:41 Up something that I want to talk about too, and this is the mystique of Atlanta. I love Atlanta. When I was blessed to do the show in two thousand and eight, Atlanta as a black person growing up in Detroit, Michigan, Atlanta was my answer, there's wildest dreams.

18:01 It was in two thousand and eight.

18:02 I literally was like, you mean to tell me there's rich black people who live behind the gates and this is what they do.

18:08 I was influenced by it, and I was motivated by it.

18:12 But if I'm being very honest and transparent with you guys, because this is a safe space.

18:17 Yea, Alli is right.

18:18 The moment you're in Atlanta, there is this weird.

18:23 Keeping up with the Joneses that does occur.

18:25 And you know, I started buying cars and I was like, listen, I can afford it.

18:33 But it was less about that.

18:34 It was more about the fact that I became this person that felt that I'm in Atlanta and I have to have all these things, the big house and all this other stuff. And I remember having all of these materialistic things being in Atlanta being like, this shit makes no sense to me. Why am I a single gay man having a big house, paying for property taxes, landscaping, exterminator, you know, all of these things where I'm like, why don't I just live in a fucking like high rise and mind my business? But there is something about Atlanta that brings that out of you. And I do feel bad for the women, especially because I do feel like the women in Atlanta they it's this unspoken sorority to where women are competing with each other, the bags, the

19:27 rich Africans, who you're dating, who's paying for all of these things. That is a real thing that happens to Atlanta women. And that's why for me, it's sad that, like Dustin said, there are a lot of quiet, wealthy people in Atlanta, and I wanted all of them to do the show, and they all said to me, I will never do Atlanta Housewives.

19:50 Are you fucking kidding me?

19:52 You don't see those people, so you're not gonna meet those people. Talk to me.

19:54 It's very hard to meet the less you say, especially you're in the social circles.

19:57 Atlanta.

20:00 It's a great place for an ego boost too. If you did one scene in a TV show twenty two years ago and you go to the mall, uh, you will be stopped and some will recognize you, and it's great for your ego. But then they're also gonna clock what you got on and it is very they are. They gonna clock it on what you got into, and it's very much you are. That is your social currency out there, and they really really care. But it's very materialistic.

20:24 No one leaves the house like That's why I was so fish out of water out there.

20:28 Like I don't wear a lash.

20:29 Yeares to go to gym like three prayers, a lashes and contoured I'm not wearing a freaking waist training to go to get groceries like it was like that everywhere, like they really, Yes, it was a lot.

20:40 Yeah, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

20:46 Let's get back into the show.

20:49 My point is I agree with all three of you guys. That's why I was happy that Kelly was honest about it, because once again, that's why we love these shows.

20:58 And that's why I will always say Kelly is.

21:00 Amazing for the show, and you should keep her peach because some of these girls, and this is no shade, some of them girls are going through that and they will never let her know.

21:09 And I'll leave it at that. Yeah, raise, please, my god, I want it.

21:14 I don't want Andy to give her a raise, like I'm like them number scared me.

21:19 That first year contract. Be not nice boy, And I don't care.

21:23 Though it's her second year and she's climbing trees and trying to hit people.

21:25 Like back in the day, they used to double it and they don't do it anymore.

21:29 You like, whatever you negotia your first year, your second year, you know.

21:31 You're gonna get doubled and double it like it was used to go up fast and now they're like, oh five percent.

21:35 Raise five percent.

21:37 Oh yeah, nah, well things are different. Now let me just say that.

21:40 I won't say five, but I understand why she's clocked in so much this season. I'm just that seemed made me realize why she's been so clocked in this season.

21:47 Yeah, and I applaud you. If you're gonna sign up to do a job.

21:51 Do your job, well, get your bonuses. And you're Raisis and Kelly, and I'll keep saying it. Kelly is great for this show and this scene solidify to meet her peach. Speaking of Atlanta culture, I do want to get into very quickly Cay Michelle's scene.

22:08 She remember her doctor.

22:11 As we all know, Ca Michelle unfortunately have butt implants back in the day and has for years been suffering through tons of complications in regard to that surgery. She's meeting with her doctor and her doctor is advising her please do not go with implants again. But he did recommend this other type of surgery. But got the name of it if you guys can remember it. The only thing I remember is he mentioned something about human fat being injected versus silicone.

22:46 And for me, this as.

22:48 Cay Michelle's friend, as somebody who did my killer body with her lifetime big ass, this is out of style and praise the Lord Jesus right, fake big asses. I'll say that cay Michelle body to me as somebody who knows her and seeing her personally is just fine. And I did feel my opinion, I did feel it was kind of not the best advice for the doctor to tell her to get anything.

23:15 I think, don't do nothing.

23:16 I think, get rid of all the silicone and embrace your natural. But Cay Michelle has a beautiful face, she has everything going for herself, and you're married, and I just don't think having anything, whether it's a natural fat or silicone, she needs to get ever again in Life's.

23:39 I was shocked by that moment. Blue, what do you think about that whole thing?

23:45 I was disappointed because when Ky Michelle has been talking for the last ten years or so about how she's considered the chronic pain pain shit, she's gonna always have someloicone soul them through her bloodstream.

23:54 Those are serious things. All the surgeries are really serious. Maybe I'm silly.

23:58 Up until last night's episode, I assume that means meant she was gonna stop. It never occurred to me that we spent five years hearing these horror stories and that she still want to get more stuff done. So I was like, bro, I had to rewind it to make sure I heard it correctly, Like all thought we were done, baby, what are you doing?

24:14 So the fact that she's and then you have to think about this for those who don't know.

24:18 Me and Carlos used to do Kardashian recaps back in the day. The only three black people who watched the Kardasashian.

24:25 Stay till season coming up, oh Lloyd, all.

24:29 Four of us watching the Kardashians, and as Kardashian watcher, they actually when they were popular, they popularized the BBL. When the BBL became too popular and no longer was a status symbol, because we know status symbols are not just about the symbol or even the price, it's about being exclusive. So the minute something becomes too common and it's ghost, right, So what the Kardashians did, it's when a nurse could spend three K and take a day off and be an rin to get a butt lift in Miami, They're like, oh, this is ghost now the everyday woman can do it. They transferred to what they call the the Country Cruck Club bbls, which are the more smaller, higher like Instagram Fitness Model bbls. When kay

25:08 Michelle was talking, she requested the new trend of butt and I was like, wait, you're still chasing the trends after everything that happened to you with the original bbl So I'm shocked that kay Michelle is still trying to be trendy with her body after all that she's been through. That makes me sad for her. There's something unhealed in her that's revealing itself this season that none of us thought.

25:29 We all thought she was gonna be fun and effervescent and have great singers and you know, Kiki and befriends with Porsche and do whatever. I don't think any of us thought we were just gonna get a glimpse into how like unhealed she might be about her stuff. And even when they were playing with the game with Angela the basketball tournament, they were making jokes about how they think she's shadow boxing right, like she's making up.

25:50 Fake ops in her head.

25:51 Her being unwell is starting to become a joke with the other ladies, and they're joking to her face. Now I think she's going down sad in the way that I didn't see, and the butt thing showed me that it's deeper than the show. I would like her to come back because I think this.

26:05 Cast is great. They need some tweaks, but I think it's great.

26:08 But Kay Michelle needs to have a come to Jesus moment if she comes back next season. I would love for her to say I watched the season back and realize maybe maybe I miscalculated.

26:18 Things and be refreshed.

26:19 Because her still wanting surgery of any sort after all this time makes me realize she hasn't learned anything.

26:26 Claudia, I have never been here for these bbls and BBL community.

26:33 You guys can be mad at me if you want.

26:35 I just think you're enough without them and getting a BBL because you want a certain kind of guy's attention or for another woman to like outdo her ass to me, it's crazy, ladies, Like I am a fan of the nineties beauty, the nineties fine, it was really not about that, like your ass. If you get attention because of your ass over your face, your mind, your heart, I feel sorry for you, I really really do.

27:01 And be mad. I don't really care.

27:03 What I'm saying is you are enough with your face, You're enough with your personality. I don't want a guy that wants me because I got a fat ass. And they had a thing that was very popular about ten years ago called the squat challenge. You start with fifty and then the next day you go to fifty five, then you go to sixty. You take the third day off.

27:21 Within eighteen days, you will see a difference.

27:24 But nobody will I try that.

27:27 No, it's so hard. Like I'm doing and I had such results, and like nobody wants to do any work.

27:35 They just want overnight results, overnight fame, overnight ass Ask these real ones that are going to stay up built in the gym. That's why people that ran track have good bodies for the rest of their lives. Seriously, Ky Michelle, you can sing, you you you are talented, You're dramatic your TV like, you can do all these things.

27:53 Why is an ass so important to you?

27:56 And you're married at this point.

27:57 It's like, I hate that now unless you got a cave in butter or something happened, I don't know.

28:04 I just I get I get down.

28:06 I see black women inject all these things into their ass and they put that as a priority. Like you over here with bad teeth, not her, but people and your ass is like up high. But you got a missing side too, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't get that.

28:20 I don't get it.

28:22 Well, some people need.

28:25 Missing side tooth community. They caught astray at the end there, Claudia, together, you made me sorry.

28:33 You have to go ahead.

28:34 Some people need bbls.

28:35 Some of y'all walking around here looking like an iron board, and I didn't seen them where it's been to improve me. Shout out to y'all. Everybody don't need him. And Claudia is right, some people have going overboard. But my thing is this right, like the body stuff. When it comes to like body work or whatever, y'all know me, I believe that people have au timomy over their bodies.

28:59 Do whatever makes you happy.

29:01 That being said, when it comes to Kay Michelle, she has expressed how the surgery had the opposite effect on her and made her really really sad. So it actually hurt my feelings. It kind of softened me up to her when I watched her in this scene and the doctor because I'm like, man, this girl is going through a lot of trauma connected to this body work, and she's been vocal about that for many, many years. So I just hope that she finds like some peace when it comes to that, whatever that looks like for her.

29:26 Maybe she do want to get another procedure, you know, and that's.

29:29 What it would take.

29:30 I don't know, but it don't make seem like it doesn't seem like the right choice to me. But that's her motherfucking body, you know what I'm saying. Like, if she wants to, she got the right to do whatever she wants to do with her body. I just want her to keep the body once she gets it, wherever she gets it to, wherever she gets it, once she gets it wherever she wants it to be. I want her to keep the body in the scene on camera.

29:54 Stop leaving these scenes. Stop being not willing to participate in the scene of what's.

29:58 Going on on the show.

30:00 She did it again this week when they were at the Bailey Q of the Bailey Bowl and Fangi Bowl right with shout out to Angela and Cynthia when Pinky playing the game like she needed to shout out to Pinky coll When Pinky was like, well, is everything okay between you and Ka Shamia or between you and k or whatever. Shmid was like, Yeah, what's up with us?

30:20 She looked at Atky Michelle ca Michelle again opted to not participate and express herself and say what was really on her mind in the scene. And here we go, another vague moment, another start out moment of not participating in the show.

30:35 Here we go again.

30:37 So I don't really care what her ass looks like. I don't want her to be happy with her ass. I just want her to keep her ass in the scene. That's all I want her to do. Participate in the show. If you're going to be a real house off of Atlanta, which I think came Michelle has a lot of potential to be a great one, you got to participate in the scene. You can't just say I don't never mind nothing.

30:58 That doesn't work on this show. It's about having any pin, it's about expressing yourself, it's about moving story forward, and she has an obligation to do that. So I just want that to clear up. I don't give a funk about what she wants to do with her body.

31:12 That's on her.

31:15 I think that her priority is in the wrong place. Yeah, it's the internal work that needs to be done, not the external, and.

31:24 Said, it's the soul that needs the surgery.

31:26 Remember it pretty hurts immediately. Categories of taboo dusted. We make so much money, we need.

31:37 To we need to gamble, We need to play against somebody, take their money.

31:40 Why do you took me gambling once?

31:46 I'm on a break right now from that, I got chilled until I get you know, I got to get enough show, like three more shows. We able to handle my gambled problem. Michelle, you already had a nice body before all that. And yes, of course you can do what you want, but when it comes to you have to leave work and opportunities because you're leaving you having infections and open wounds.

32:05 We don't want that for you.

32:06 We don't.

32:07 And the BBL is the most dangerous, the most risky of all the plastic surgery procedures. That's the most dangerous one. That's what doctors will tell you. And I just hope that you see that. I think you looked great when you took the stuff up as much of the stuff, I thought you looked great. But again it matters what she thinks. But you know, we can tell her all day long, we think, but this morphia is real.

32:26 Clock, That's why I'm concerned, Like this body autonomy and then there's morphia.

32:32 Level.

32:33 Yeah, this scene felt like this It was the first time that I thought, oh, this is dys morphia.

32:37 Yeah, make me sad.

32:39 Maybe that's what I'm feeling in because I felt like it was just a little bit This was one of them scenes that takes things a step further than just having funny commentary about the show.

32:50 Let me get the.

32:50 Body image issues and shit, and specifically in the case that came to show, take out whatever your personal feelings about her or her personality.

33:00 He is right.

33:01 But when you see that this lady has for years been literally crying on television about how this has fucked her up in the head and physically, so to see.

33:11 Her in the n be even entertaining it in that doctor's office.

33:15 For me, I just was like, this is a sensitive thing and this is more than just entertainment right now, and people need to handle this with care. That's just how I felt when I watched that particular scene. Fuck the rest of it, but that part I was like, this goes a.

33:30 Little further than just which is why I wanted to say that somebody who does know her personally.

33:35 I looked at that and I felt sad.

33:36 And we did a Lifetime show called myr Killer Body, and I just don't want her to do anything else that could risk it. She did say, and wash what happens live that Pedra introduced her to this new to this doctor who does something along the lines of I don't want to miss quote, but long story short, Faedra introduced her to a doctor that can help her out, and even Andy it was like.

34:00 You want to do it again? She's like, yeah, but it's not still calls something else. He was like, all right, listen, I don't think it's anything wrong with saying it. We all love key Michelle, We're all rooting for you, and we all know what difficulty this has been. Episode two was her in the hospital leaving the awards for that.

34:21 So I think all of us are just saying that.

34:26 It may not be worth it anymore, and like Dustin and Blue are saying too in terms of there could be something deeper there.

34:34 We just don't know.

34:35 But I do hope that we get to hear more of that story versus the obvious of I just want it again because something deeper is happening there. Yeah, well, I want to get to Angela at her scene with her daughter. This scene with her daughter had to do with the fact that she is a lesbian. She married her friend who's another woman. Obviously they've been friends since she was a teenager. Angela mentioned that she feels some kind of way that she wasn't told about them getting married.

35:17 Angela is saying that her siblings believe that her wife is just her best friend, as her brother was being nosy coming down the staircase.

35:25 Solica, you know in the conversation. What was interesting about this scene is this.

35:34 Her daughter said that Angela was not easy to talk to and the moment she said that Angela Oakley wanted to shut her down and not even talk about it.

35:47 And for me, it was in that moment that I felt, Hmmm.

35:53 Something deeper happened in y'all dynamic that I believe Angela does not want the public to no because she obviously has emerged as a fan favorite.

36:04 I love Angela, oh lease, she's great for the show.

36:06 I think the daughter feels like, if we're gonna keep the rope in front of the cameras, let's keep it real, and her daughter was sitting on ready to keep it real, even when Angela said, you're entitled, and she goes.

36:22 Angela said you're entitled and spoiled, and she goes, what I pay my on bills blah boom.

36:29 I feel like there is something deeper going on between Angela and her child that Angela does not want to come out. And I don't know what that is, but I got the sense that Angela does not want to have a conversation.

36:43 Okay, so oldest daughter number one, right, we all know that there is a very story passed between every mother and the eldest daughter. There's all sorts of books, studies, think pieces, substats, all kind of shit written about this, right, So that's number one, number two at the end of the day. Even and I agree with you, I think there is absolutely some more story there, and I respect him trying to protect it. But what I definitely respect it is the way that Angela is leading with love when it comes.

37:15 To her daughter.

37:17 Flat out, and the daughter was sitting on Ready. But it wasn't directed towards Angela. You know who it was directed towards. Then people on Twitter who has a lot of shit to say about that conversation between her and her mama were kind of trying to like come at Angela's neck. Amari, her daughter, cleared that shit up real quick on Twitter. She said, hold on, me and my mama loved the fuck out of each other. And what you saw was not us fighting. You saw us talking through work and working toward and understanding.

37:46 She she cleared that shit up very fast.

37:50 So the bond that Angela and her daughter Amari have is a very real thing. Shout out to both of them for being willing to share that shit on TV. I believe Angela loves that a lot of her daughter one hundred percent. It's not even a joke. I believe that her daughter, or Maria is the oldest, saw a lot of stuff. Saw Angela go through a lot of changes.

38:10 Y'all know how they go the whole Me and my daughter kind of grew up a little bit together or whatever.

38:14 She saw a lot of changes, and so that's just her POV. She loved her siblings.

38:18 As a gay person, I feel like she hands's handling it well. She said, when it's time to have a conversation with her younger siblings, who are kids, by the way, and she don't even need to talk to them about who the fuck her wife is.

38:31 That's her echo fucking kids. I was so dramatic because I hate that. I hate that focused on that when it comes to gay people.

38:40 What we're gonna say to the kids nothing, motherfucker their kids. We're not gonna tell them anything. That's her, that's her friend. That's all them kids need to fucking know. That was pissing me off. But anyway, I like to see much love to them.

38:55 No, much love to Angela. My love her daughter.

38:59 But buddy, before I get to the girls, I do want to say this, and again, this is my own experience, and I'm not trying to play on every gay person that comes out. I'm going on record saying I do not think Angela OPI's homophobic. I know that people the comments are saying that. And again again, in all fairness, you guys have every right to come to your own conclusions when things aren't spelled out correctly. And that's why as a producer, I always tell my cast is best if you tell the truth fully in front of these cameras, because if you don't, people are going to walk away.

39:35 Where the own device is.

39:36 I'm saying, Carlos King the first I don't believe Angela OPI's homophobic at all. Now, what I will say if I could be very honest right as somebody who was the first gay I have. Y'all know I have nine siblings as the first person, and I have a gay brother he's younger. When I came out the closet, I came out to my mother first, and Dustin is one thousand percent my mother rest in heaven. She was like, when are you going to tell your father? And I thought, at twenty five years old, like I'm telling you? Can I just start there like I don't want to.

40:15 I don't My.

40:16 Coming out story should not be on your timeline, respectfully, and I know you mean well, but it should not be your timeline. I didn't tell my father until he saw me tell Oprah like ten years later. Oh my gosh, I hat just to help girls on the story. Yes, he found out me coming out on Oprah Winfrey when I was doing her behind the scenes show and Oprah said, are they any.

40:39 Gay people in the building.

40:40 I got a question and my producer said, walk in, You're gonna gay person in the room, I'm like, all right, and then Oprah was like, I have a question for you, and it was it was airing, and I told my mom.

40:54 My mom said you have to tell your father and I said, no, he'll find that on and he did. But my point is deafine is right.

41:04 I think the mistake Angela's making is it is not your job to tell your daughter when to tell her siblings who are teenagers, that she married a woman, because my question would be if she married a man, would that even be a conversation that you would want her to have or her siblings. And that's why I do think that we have to be very careful when we're trying to say, well, I'm cool with it.

41:35 And again I think Angelo's cool with it.

41:37 But as a gay person, I know what it feels like to be told by a parent you need to do this on my timeline, and it's not fair.

41:44 To that person.

41:45 I do think when someone when it's a gay person involved like the outrage and not saying that she's giving fake outrages like that, but it's always like what was the kids think? Kids nowadays are so much more progressive than their parents. I said something to my niece about gayness right, And I loved how.

42:03 Open she was.

42:04 She's like, I don't know who i'man to marry man or a woman, And I was like, look at that. She was so open to everything. And I bet you like not saying her parents, my brother and his wife, but people that are that age be thinking, oh my god, it's gonna be so traumatizing for these young kids to know that their aunt or their older sisters.

42:25 In that way.

42:26 When all along go to any eighth, ninth and tenth grade classroom.

42:30 Now they are so much more open and forgiving, not forgiving, open and fair and love.

42:37 People for more for who they are.

42:39 There's less rules now, and I love that for the youth nowadays, especially up in the Northeast and mass is so progressive, such a healthy environment for kids to feel like anything is possible.

42:51 It's not I don't have to be worried like that.

42:53 So sometimes you know, it's much ado about nothing. Of course, you do have some parents that are homophobic.

42:57 I don't think Angela is, but I you know when they I feel like when they when it's about a gay person, it's so much about the sex. Okay, straight people out here having sex at fourteen two. Okay, well, okay, whatever you know.

43:08 So, I.

43:11 Don't think it's as big of a deal as Angela may think it is.

43:17 I had a very different reaction to the whole scene. I've received the scene entirely differently, and it's not like I'm disagreeing.

43:25 I just received it differently for me.

43:29 Before I found out I was fan sexual. For a second, I thought, you know how, sometimes you're like, where do I plot under the rainbow? And my pan and my bye and my gay, like, what's happening right? I don't think we under the rainbow often talk about internalized shame masquerading as discernment, and sometimes we're slow to share, not because it's not a big deal, but because we haven't made peace with it ourselves entirely, and there is shame that we're working through that stops us from saying something that could have been lighter because of us, not them.

44:03 I picked up some internalized shame in that young lady. I'm not judging her, I'm just perceiving she's still working through how she feels about it. And I also picked up that Angela was being almost protective. I don't think she was being judgmental I think she felt like her daughter was acting knuck if you buck on the camera, and she knew that she wouldn't be able to deal with the outcome as much as she thought she could.

44:24 You have a friend who's trying to have a difficult conversation, and you can tell they think they're ready because they're they're restless, but they're not really really ready for the outcome or the response. Angela, we always joke that she seems like a seasoned housewife. I heard on the streets Carlos that y'all want her for a seasons three through nine of some of the streets have said that y'all y'all been wanting her as someone who's season. She's thinking, you think you want to have this moment, baby, I'm not sure you're ready for the response.

44:47 To the moment.

44:48 So I thought Ida like a protective.

44:51 Mother saying no, baby, I don't think you're as ready as you think you are. And though I do believe her daughter is still working through internalized shame, I don't think it's about don't rush me.

45:00 I think it's I'm not fully at peace with it yet.

45:02 And also, can I be honest as someone who's had friends like that when you don't tell them. It's not about don't rush me. You're making me complicit on the lie because now I can't talk about your wife. I have to pretend that's your homegirl. I'm complicit. These are my kids.

45:16 If they ask me questions, I'm having to lie to keep your secret.

45:20 The person who's complicit, because this is not like we all live in different houses and your brothers and sisters live in Massachusetts and I live in LA and you live in New York and I don't want to rush you mind your business.

45:29 These are children who are in my house, who.

45:32 Are engaging with you and your partner, and I'm having to lie with you to pretend that's just your homegirl.

45:38 I'm complicit.

45:39 It's not stand offish like we're all in different homes. And so I think Angela's probably thinking and she can speak for herself when your brother and sister are like to Claudia is form.

45:47 We're progressive. We can people, whatever how you doing, be who you are. We're watching TikTok.

45:51 Everybody make light of gay stuff and they're like, wait, is that some gay shit's happening? And they ask Angela, and Angel's like I don't know, Chad, I just work here, and she's like, can you just tell you? Like, I don't know what to tell them, can you just tell.

46:02 Them for me?

46:03 If that was the case, I believe that, Angela, because I actually agree with what.

46:08 You're saying as a as a another point of view.

46:12 But do you think if that was the case, Angela would say, they're asking me, and that's that's.

46:19 The only thing that I'm curious about, Like I do.

46:22 I think she didn't want to have that conversation.

46:24 I think I think she was trying to nip it because she was realizing from seeing how because communication is ninety three percent now on verbal that girl was getting visibly more emotional as they were talking.

46:34 A mother, and we all know whether it's a mother or a good partner.

46:38 You could tell when somebody's stomach drops and their voice gets shaken, like when we all know when Kenny's voice got shaky.

46:43 She's about to get mad.

46:45 Her daughter's body started to feel activated, and as the mother, she's like, let's just shut this down, Let's just shut it down. I think Angela was trying to de escalate something that she could tell her daughter physically was getting emotional about She's like, I don't think I think this is actually too much for us.

46:56 But let's stop.

46:58 Yes, because even as we get to the therapy scene and this is no shade, I'm just outlying what I saw. I thought the therapy scene was a wash. I didn't learn anything new from it.

47:08 It was.

47:10 H Yeah, it was ninety seconds.

47:12 It could have been a episode on rabotv dot com because for me, the one just the one thing that I struggled with is and again, I'm a viewer. If you're going to introduce a topic to me, I'm old school. I do believe you have the you have the responsibility to the audience to lay it out, like lay it out there, and I agree with you. I think Angela, who's a great mother, is obviously trying to protect her daughter.

47:48 But if that's the case, don't even bring up a subject. Then I'd rather you pull I'll rather you pull up the other girls in the show pool, which is, don't give us nothing. I would rather not know anything about your daughter's relationship ship then to get a piecemeal and that therapy scene, I was like, this is some bullshit.

48:05 This scene is terrible, not terrible in the sense of the actions, but in the sense of Lindsey Harbert telling Andy in this three part reunion, I've learned.

48:18 Reality TV wants a resolution at someone. If you're gonna dangle it in our faces, we need to give a carrot. They were dangling that carry and we never got to bite it.

48:25 And it was unsatisfied as a viewer, because it's.

48:28 A conversation if you're really protecting of it, and it's not comfortable like there was many I mean, the girl had a green screen, she had a confessional, So yeah, I missed me with not ready to talk about it.

48:40 If you're gonna go do a confessional like that should be mom.

48:43 I'm not going on TV and doing anything about this.

48:46 Why would you even introduce that to the Real Housewives of Atlanta, one of most popular reality of all time?

48:53 Like why would you even do that?

48:55 So I don't know, Yeah, which is why for me, I could be totally wrong.

49:00 I felt that Angela's daughter was ready for the smoke, and I do agree that Angela wasn't ready to I think it's twofolk. I think Angela wasn't ready for her daughter to deal with the aftermath of People on social media will say but I also think Angela wasn't also ready for what was about to be revealed about their dynamic and when she spoke about her mother in heaven, like Dustin said, I think, I think first born kids can all agree that your grandmother is lois key in some situations, your mom who raised you, or somebody who you value as this person looked out for me. And I just felt that they dangle so many different nuances that the black community can relate.

49:57 To that I did feel the ball was dropped but not giving it to us.

50:02 Have you ever I have a question. Have you ever.

50:06 Thought that you were ready to tell a story and you're like, oh, this is something that happened in the past, I'm ready to tell it, and halfway through you start crying, like, no, I thought I was.

50:13 Here, what was going on?

50:15 Yeah, I think that's what happened.

50:18 Oh shit, No, seriously, right.

50:21 I think we saw a human glitch where you think, oh, I'm always I can tell it, and then you're like, wait, why am I steering up and you realize when you're halfway in the thick of it, I'm actually not ready.

50:31 This is a little too raw. I think we saw that happen and the producers couldn't figure out how to like walk it.

50:36 Back, if that makes sense, because I feel like they're readiness and then they were like, oh, snap, maybe not so much.

50:42 Because it's it's a very sensitive We're talking about sexuality, we're talking about the complexities of a mother daughter relationship.

50:51 We're talking about.

50:52 Minor children, siblings of the person, and how do you properly inform them of this very adult subject. You know what I'm saying, It's just a lot of sensitive shit, a lot of degree exactly. It's a lot of nuance and layers here. It's something then that needs to be handled with care for sure, especially in view to those to her younger siblings. And actually shout out to both of them for being willing to talk about it on TV, because that's not some shit Black families traditionally do.

51:23 So.

51:23 Shout out to Angela and her daughter Amari.

51:26 The whole episode was the whole episode a raw wound, like everybody had even to me at the end, I was like, somebody needs to hold her.

51:34 The whole episode was very emotional.

51:36 Well, let's get into that. I want to get into that because Cynthia and.

51:44 Angela through Billy Bowl Part two, and before that, we did see that Portia and Drew are talking and they have decided to be business partners, possibly when it comes to go naked hair spoiler alert.

52:01 We saw the photo shoot, so we know that Drew did say yes.

52:04 Ultimately, I look, you guys can obviously say everything you want to say in regards to the Billy Bowl. I'm just saying for me as I start things off, I don't I'm not going to talk about the game and the.

52:20 I don't care about that. This seemed to me really outline the bias in this group. This group.

52:33 Is divided because they have chosen one person to be hard on and the energy isn't being matched. Right when I looked at the Billy Bowl scene, what's happening in this moment to me is I do feel like.

52:55 What the energy they're getting. Shamiyah, who isn't perfect.

53:00 Shemiah, in my opinion, hasn't done anything more or less than what these other girls have.

53:07 And I do think there is this there is this thing where and I'm gonna call it out.

53:12 And I know more about the way these shows work. Being a producer especially comes to the show. We know that Porsche is the Queen Bee, and I do feel like the relationships that they're having, everybody wants to be on the Queen be side this season. Porscha is getting no smoke except Kelly Fadrian giving Porscha no smoke. Obviously, Porscha isn't getting any smoke from anybody. And I'm not saying Portra deserves any smoke. I'm not saying she does.

53:46 The point that I'm.

53:47 Making is I, as a viewer, I'm not understanding what does Shemia do so badly that she deserves all this shade coming her way?

53:57 I am I am confused by that.

53:59 And when I saw how Pinky, like Dustin said, try to bring up okay, came Mischelle, what's going on with you guys? And I was frustrating that moment honestly because Dustin, you did say Pink, it was doing her job. I'll give her a C plus because no, you should have said, hey, I met with Key Michelle.

54:21 Ky Michelle said yes, like we gonna have a real conversation.

54:26 And in that moment, I felt bad for Shamiah because she's confused, Like I got beat with ky Michelle because if you look at what happened last week. Shamia has no idea what came Michelle said about her and to be in this hear me out to be in this group and you already know you and Porsche and good and we get it.

54:49 I do feel like now that the girls know that Portion.

54:51 And Shamia aren't friends anymore, they're going to side with the popular girl in school and at the expense of Shemiah. I'm not saying Shamim innocent. I feel like Shamia is doing her job, reading the girls, being outspoken and all those things. But I do feel like Angela has a heart on for Shamia that to me, the punishment does not fit the crime. And I do feel like Angela has way more smoke for Shamia than she did Proportia last season. And as I'm watching this attagonistic way of her dealing with things as somebody who thinks Angela's everything and she still lives, I would have to say, me being honest, I am surprised that Angela has this weird heart on for Shamia when other girls have done worse.

55:41 And I'm not sure why Shamia is all of a sudden getting this treatment for saying sasquatch.

55:49 I agree with you, it's giving Kenya more two point zero when everyone was like hating on Kenya. And yes, has Kenya done some things that can make people feel a way. Yes, has Shamiyah. Yes has a lot of a cast and stuff. Yes, But I feel like, you know, when like everyone's getting along and then there's like a little break in something like there's like one person that could be liked as the weakest link all the weaker link, it builds our bond to all at one person or to just pick on that person, and it makes our bond.

56:20 Now it's like we're extra having fun.

56:22 Ah, wasn't that so funny over here?

56:25 Just doing the most see that shit all the time, and it's like it's easy, like okay, once we just we don't want to fight with each other cause we're actually finally in a good place. Drew and Porsche we're great now and and and you know, Angela and all they're getting along, so they don't want to.

56:39 Have smoke for each other. They do not guess, but they do go to the person that she's an easy target. And I'm not saying that Shemiah.

56:47 Hasn't done anything. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I don't think anyone on the show is innocent. I think everyone's done their little shit right, But it's easy to like, you know what, if I had to pick one person, let me pick her, and let's all join in and just pie on it, because I feel like the same way, the punishment doesn't fit the climb when there's other people have done sup to you that's done worse.

57:05 And I hate this Samia Angela thing because I like them both. I really like Angela, but I'll be like, yo, why you what's up with that?

57:12 You know?

57:14 Dartin.

57:15 Yeah, I do think Samia is getting a bad rap, not a bad rap. I do think Samia is being unfairly identified as the nucleus of every problem on the damn show, and she's just simply not that.

57:28 You know, people have their own reasons for maybe not preferring.

57:33 Shemiah, but I don't think there's been an occurrence or any she's done anything egregious on camera for us to see that will warrant some of like the vitriol that she's receiving. And I'm not speaking towards Angela because I feel like Angela just be talking shit and trying to mind you know, things that will make the show progress.

57:51 I get what she's doing, but there are other people who have kind of I don't know. I just and and everything ain't no flat answered like zero some you know what I mean. So, of course to me is not innocent per se, but it is a little bit heavy handed her way, in her direction, you know what I'm saying. And it is getting kind of boring to watch.

58:11 But I think that that's going to lead to a very activated to me at this reunion. And I don't know about y'all, but I am looking forward to it. I want to see the reunion. I want a blood bad current. I want that what was that fucked up ass wedding from Game of.

58:26 Thrones, that red wedding. Honey them dragons. I love that show.

58:31 That's what I want, Blue. I want the red wedding.

58:34 That's one of the worst blood maps in the history of television.

58:38 They are shooting, they are shoes. A reunion this week?

58:41 Yeah?

58:42 Can I can I speak on behalf of tauruses because Angel is a tourist and so I'm not confused ahead, Okay, I just I gotta speak from my people.

58:50 We're very specific about this as a.

58:54 Tourist woman who shockingly is known for being direct, right, I know, surprise, christ surprised if I see three of y'all on some bullshit and two of y'all admitted, and the third one not only does it admit it but keeps playing victim. I'm gonna have a hard arm for you because you're not so I'm the same. I'm gonna be honest if you do something. She means a tourist too, So it's they see each other. If you it's our says to who are wrong.

59:23 Sometimes unless they've gotten to talk to the lady, they don't know how to admit it.

59:26 I think for Angela, the thing that is annoying her because it's something that actually annoys me.

59:30 And I've had to learn to accuse myself is Portia says some shit and she ate it. She's like, you know what, bit she got me?

59:39 My bad?

59:39 I did it right?

59:41 What's so the other people?

59:42 My bad?

59:43 You got me?

59:44 Tomiah continues to feign like nothing that is being said about her, and I'm just speaking of Bavava Taurus.

59:52 She's still playing.

59:53 Victim and not just eating it. I cannot I'm so sorry. I don't care about the offense. I care about the accountability. M h the girl who not only doesn't need it but keeps crying. She's gonna keep kissing me the fuck off. I'm sorry, I just love.

1:00:12 You keep crying rather than just taking the l.

1:00:14 But let me ask you this, and this is good and and this is I'm so glad we all agree. You don't care about the game, Greg game by the way, Cynthia and Angela Greg games.

1:00:29 Yes, I understand.

1:00:30 To me, this scene, to me sort of, this was the first scene to me this season that was so blatant with the alliance that has occurred, right.

1:00:42 Because I I I there were two offenses for me that I was.

1:00:50 Like, I'm really annoyed right now, right I was, I'm like Dustin, I love Ka down to the ground. I was annoyed that, Okay, you did tell Pinky this, and yes, Pinky.

1:01:02 Tried to bring it use you could talk about it.

1:01:06 I was not happy that kym mischelle did not stand on business. I was annoyed by that, Like you, you gotta stand on business with these girls. There can be more scenes where you say.

1:01:18 Something, I ain't doing shit. She ain't do nothing, Carlos say it. She ain't do shit. She's sitting in that scene, mute and silent.

1:01:28 Yeah, you know what I'm saying, folding into herself, she said in that scene, just like this, she was uncomfortable. And she's got so much personality in her confessionals, she's got so much personality. On Twitter, she had way more personality and she was more lively on watch what happens.

1:01:44 But you don't get to just.

1:01:46 Stand in the semi circle and just stand there when you have some of that and somebody mind you.

1:01:54 Pinky probably have been thinking.

1:01:55 The entire time, like say something, say something, so she probably was like, well, fuck y'all all right, you know, or maybe she was prompted by producers, who knows, but either way came Mischelle was literally they took the rid carpet like those you know, those reels or tick type videos, or the guy throws the rid carpet out in front of the random people walking down the street and then he does like a photo shooter and walking down there like a model. That's what Pinky did to Ky Michelle in that scene. Here you go, here go the floor girl.

1:02:22 And what it came to Shechelle, she just stood there and that is Angela's watching that. By the way, Angela's watching all these things happen again.

1:02:32 But that's why I'm gonna say that, Claudia, you got next. But that's why for me, I felt like, and let's have a real conversation. If if Samiah pull came and Sheryl pulled, the rest of those girls would not just say all right, are we done filming?

1:02:51 They would their best to extracted honest mea right.

1:02:55 And so that's what I'm saying blue about this bias that I'm seeing e when it comes to these girls because Kim Michelle is allowed to get away with there's no energy, no energy, but she's ada though I'm not gonna try to here's the thing, she was dead on arrival.

1:03:10 Shemiah actually knows how to activate. They're not different to me.

1:03:13 It's not even a bias, it's different expectations. We know Shemiah could be a media darling, can be a fan, Faith can turn it up. What's friends with everybody? I think for me, what I saw in that scene was and Angela even said it, she said, you know, you're still mad at me about the fact that you blame me for what happened with you.

1:03:27 In port She said it.

1:03:28 She said, Kimmy, I understand that frustration. Angela me wasn't picking her. She's like, let's.

1:03:34 Finally do this.

1:03:38 I agree with you, and that's why I'm annoyed with all of those girls in that scene.

1:03:43 Yeah, I think it was even I think Angela was frustrated, like this is the perfect situation for us to finally have this nasty Porsia's here, you're here, Shemias here came, We're all here.

1:03:53 Why the fuck are we not having the conversation?

1:03:56 Everybody participated though everyone's not participating.

1:03:59 Everyone's look like bully.

1:04:00 The one person who participates, it looks like a bully with nobody. Everybody else is playing dead.

1:04:05 Cachelle is not participating, she said, you want to pile on. I get that, and I can do something else. Though you I be so mad if your first year. I'm forst year and you ain't doing your job, but I have to go give one hundred and ten percent or that ship is annoying and that's a quick way to get people to resent you.

1:04:23 And then Portia is not participating with Shmir.

1:04:27 We all checked out, and it's like, okay, so now you've got spokes people speaking on your behalf, and it's crazy, like there's such a disconnect because everyone is not showing up for work for.

1:04:37 Angela, who now looks crazy because everybody took the day off and she's at work by herself.

1:04:41 But I gotta say this, and I'm not blaming Angela because obviously it's not her job to make sure everyone clocks. Yeah, the thing is this, if I was Angela in that moment, the reason why it looks bad for Angela and Shmia looks like she's being picked on is because this y'all tell me if I got this wrong, I do not understand the life of me while we're talking about Angela versus Shemia.

1:05:06 To me, it was great, It wasn't amazing, It wasn't Puerto Rico.

1:05:11 You now, this is the gag.

1:05:13 Minia and Claudia never talked about Puerto Rico. After Puerto Rico. They had other shit going on. So the fact that we're talking about this and it's hoping the lap dog no shade. There's tons of puppies that was on that fucking wood that wants to be on Portia's lap and that is no shade, right, So the thing is nobody is trying to have like these honest conversations.

1:05:38 That's why Pinky, I'll give her that she tried, but she failed.

1:05:40 Because if you want to again talk going back to Angela and her daughter, don't break up shit in half asset that gets from my fucking nerves. You guys are making twenty thousand plus more episode.

1:05:55 Call this shit out. Hey, we are here. What is y'all issue?

1:06:02 So y'all y'all like Angela right now?

1:06:04 You see the irony is right now as we're talking about it, you sound like Angela.

1:06:08 And that's why unless it was let it out Angela.

1:06:12 Let me know if Angela should have said Portia, No, we're all gonna talk about this and all of you guys are going to address this because this this can't just be about Angela and Shamia and came Michelle and Pinky. What did cay Michelle say, because clearly you're not some fucking you know profit the energy is wrong. There's no fucking energy. Came Michelle told me obvious behind Shomia's back, let's bring it up. And I think that to me is what's frustrating me about these girls in this scene because you girls aren't trying to clock in faith are sitting there making side comments. Drew was just there looking gorgeous and made me.

1:06:50 Laugh in that scene, Carlos, when Drew said yeah, because last season he just being somebody's lap dog and this is you do it again, she.

1:06:58 Was like, who's left, Carlos.

1:07:05 If Kenya Moore was there to Claudia and Clodia live in the place, because Kenya have Angela.

1:07:09 Kenya Moore would never allow girls in the scene with her to not work.

1:07:14 She would clock it and get everybody together, like I'll be damn if I'm the only one working.

1:07:19 Y'all gonna work. Y'all gonna work.

1:07:21 We're not just gonna sit here and let some people sit there twiddling their thumbs. You're fighting her, battle for her. You ain't saying ship you're on the Beyonce mute challenge.

1:07:29 Say it.

1:07:30 It's so annoying. It's so annoying, and it makes someone erradic, like you do Angela doing the work of three people. Yeah, it looks like she's just being messy And I'm not keeping for Angela.

1:07:41 By the way, I'm just saying that I all four of us would have been the Angela. That's why I had to call that we wouldn't be hypocrites, all four of us.

1:07:50 What the fuck?

1:07:50 Somebody God agree something?

1:07:53 I agree? And and and the thing is this, The thing is this. I just don't like it when a show kisses the ass is of the ogs or the vets.

1:08:07 And no one is there to just have real conversation. It's it's the most frustrating thing.

1:08:14 And I and for some reason this scene, I thought it was so blatant what was going on because they were annoying.

1:08:20 It was annoying hours.

1:08:21 I was like, Poorscha and Angela, and what y'all gonna do?

1:08:25 Not y'all, but what people, what it's going to do is going to turn you know, when people someone gets picked like whether to me is right wrong or not.

1:08:32 It's gonna end up making people start siding with her just because of like, well, okay, what was it.

1:08:37 You're almost gonna forget what the beat the original beef was about, because now it's just too much like y'all not even addressing what it really is.

1:08:43 Like just it and the things ain't that big of a deal. They're not serious things. They're little things, and they're not.

1:08:50 More frustrating because we could have been had this conversation.

1:08:52 Yeah, the things that they're funning about is not like, oh, you actually did have sex with my husband.

1:08:56 It's none of that. It's little goofy things.

1:08:58 That's literally she dragged you wrong.

1:09:03 To say nothing else about that dirty room. Yeah another word, you define word. It has nothing to do with the story of the season. We don't want to hear it no more.

1:09:15 I did ask something about that. We didn't talk about that last night.

1:09:18 We went out to dinner too, So like I feel you, but.

1:09:24 Yes, we know Shmia, Yes, Jerry, you dragged it, and you know take Fish, you dragged.

1:09:31 It elected me.

1:09:33 I just want I just want her to like actually lectured me and Angela, And I think accountability is the wall that's between them. I think, honestly maybe coming from wrong. I've seen Angela. The minute you eat it, Angela will let it go because.

1:09:48 The same way the minute eat it's over and you know what, you know what you did. But me too, my man, I still might hit you.

1:09:57 But like you think, I think Shemiah feels like she can't admit anything now because when you feel like it's you versus everybody's faith for her to say, you know what, I was wrong.

1:10:09 She's just gotta she got to stand on her now in her mind, but it's not helping her.

1:10:13 It's not helping her.

1:10:14 But I think that's what part of the problem is. Smia feels like she has to defend herself. She's being defensive in a way that is kind of like a turnoff for the fans, And I feel like it's because she feels like she has to protect and defend herself when everybody coming at her. And I wish she would just like I wish her fuck y'all looked a little bit different than it does. That's what I wish her fuck y'all looked like. I ain't even gonna plan of that whatever. And if we got to get into an argument, we argue, But I'm not about to feel like I now have to avenge, you know what I'm saying all this other shit Like, No, I just wish her fuck you looked at little different.

1:10:48 But I'm thoroughly entertained. Baby.

1:10:53 I feel like, like I said, I just think that to me, it's just still like in a growing pain's uncomfortable place in the show.

1:11:02 Yeah's not you, So this is you know.

1:11:05 I think she's just like just the being the bad guy on the out. She was always the sidekick to the most popular girl on the show. She's like, it's gonna take this season and maybe even next season to still get to that you know what. Like the villain era was, she could beat her Kenyon more and be like, you know what, fuck all, y'all suck my deck.

1:11:21 Okay, but she's not there.

1:11:23 She's you can tell she still looks like she still cares.

1:11:25 I think she's like, wait, what, I'm on in the n group for once in my life, I'm on the outside. I'm not thinking about she's with Candy, She's with all those friends. But in this situation, she's on the ouse. In this group, she's on the ouse.

1:11:38 The tourists. Please to me.

1:11:39 I'm just trust me, sister, I understand. Okay, the tourists need to die on stupid hills.

1:11:45 I get it.

1:11:45 My life change where I could just take it out, my entire life change when I could just take it and keep it moving.

1:11:52 That's all you need to do. I promise you just try it, try it and get.

1:11:54 Back to us and came Selle, please wake it up. It's honestly you are not living up to your full potential.

1:12:00 And I take it. Fans.

1:12:01 I'm sorry because episode three I was giving a prop sa she's a star, not on this show.

1:12:05 She's not doing it.

1:12:06 She's missing, she's at bat, striking out. She's missing so many layups where.

1:12:12 She could be great.

1:12:13 And with that funny one liner she used to have. We know she's funny, she's entertaining, she smart. It's a waste of a check. It's but you know she's not the worst. It's phaser first because Phaede has a talent too. She's doing nothing.

1:12:26 Unemployment child, I don't even know. Watch this is sever we're watching her seventh season.

1:12:30 But she's gonna have the trip. She's gonna have the trips Scotland.

1:12:34 She's gonna have the Scotland a Scotland child, My god, she gets the pick rooms and you know, okay, maybe she'll talk.

1:12:42 Oh wait, let me stop paying.

1:12:45 Girls hit it. I can feel go ahead. Clean up was not gonna be my segue.

1:12:53 I'm just gonna say, look, Scotland is next week.

1:12:57 We all know that this is the trip where unfortunately it is the Based on my interviews with both of them, it appears to be the.

1:13:09 Final now on the Copnother friendship in Portia, which is unfortunate. We'll see what happens.

1:13:17 I'm not it's not going to be in next week's episode, but obviously it's definitely.

1:13:21 A part of this trip.

1:13:24 And look, they are taping the reunion this week, and it is going to be Dustin's right, it's going to be a blood bath.

1:13:36 It's going to be a blood bath. And it's like a fat cake like party.

1:13:45 In my house.

1:13:46 Anybody's New York if you're in New York thinking allowed as New York in the background.

1:13:53 I do think it's as much as like to me, is not going to be ready for that many people like her versus that many people, and it's gonna be real.

1:14:01 I predict it's gonna be really bad for her.

1:14:03 Like it's too many people.

1:14:04 It's like you, like Bruce Lee fighting all the ninjas around you, like over here, over here, that's.

1:14:09 Gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard for you.

1:14:11 Better get us some adderall and some moscato.

1:14:14 And beyond ready because you canna be.

1:14:15 Focused or just take the l shock everybody.

1:14:20 Yep, yeah, you could just see that. We'll speak, we'll speed.

1:14:24 But bring.

1:14:29 You're setting her up for a beautiful bring your beautiful mothers and sit them on the couch the same way that Carlos and them made sure that Mama Joyce was sitting on the couch in season six to say her piece, and it was one of the best fucking reunion moments ever.

1:14:43 A Papa Rochi, Si, you remember that part.

1:14:47 So I wish that I hope that both mothers can come and see that conversation through on the reunion states that's.

1:14:55 What we want.

1:14:58 Yeah, well, let's ain't drawn. Let us know the comments your thoughts on it.

1:15:02 Before I let you guys go, somebody did ask a question that I think we all should answer, and that is your seating chart predictions for the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

1:15:18 Starting with Dustin Ross.

1:15:20 Yeah, it's Dustin Ross's prediction for the seating chart of the Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion.

1:15:29 For sure, fourth chair, first chair, Porsche, Shaniya, second chair, Phaedra Angela, third chair, Kelly.

1:15:45 Pinky, fourth chair, Drew.

1:15:51 And whoever else is left. And then my baby Cynthia comes out and just do her thing.

1:15:56 That's what I think. Michelle at the end, Oh, she ain't got to say. She ain't say no, she's sitting in the front. If it's big on letter saying, she could put it be up in the front.

1:16:14 Yeah, because she's great at that she hasn't had anything to say, and the reunion seating is based on who has the most to contribute to the story, you know. So I think that I'll put her like towards the end. But I definitely think she's coming back next season. I definitely think that she'll continue on the show. I definitely think she can do well, but she gonna be on the end at that reunion.

1:16:36 Blue to loose my your seating charm prediction or the Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion.

1:16:42 I actually Dustin and I had the same chart, and my only concess I asked him where you put Ky Michelle.

1:16:48 My only thing is.

1:16:49 I'm wondering, not a diversity higher, but I'm wondering if Michelle is gonna be bumped up simply because she's Ky Michelle.

1:16:56 That's the only wild card that I had, Like, I'm wondering if he is going to because it's her first season and everybody was really excited about her and she's been such a hot topic that that's gonna push her up a little bit further than she's earned.

1:17:09 Based on her work, if that makes sense. She ain't got shit to say. I mean, that's just doing a whole set on that lady.

1:17:14 Yeah.

1:17:18 I do think Portion and Shamir are at the front. I do think have been avoiding each other so much.

1:17:24 And he's gonna be like the two Barbie Keith, You're gonna put them, that's my prediction, like the two Barbie Dolls.

1:17:35 So I think that's whether they want to or not. That's my prediction. Because Andy's messy.

1:17:40 I like the story. Yeah, okay, Carlos, look, you know my store I like to shop. Yeah.

1:17:54 Uh, Claudia Jordan your reunion sitting chart prediction for the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

1:18:00 Of course, Samia because it's Samia Shamia, Shamia Marshall, Marshall Mark.

1:18:04 Okay, she's gonna be first chair on that side.

1:18:07 I would say Porscha because she's a star, but she hasn't been as many conflicts this season, So I'm gonna go with Angela because she's quite busy everybody else's stuff. Not that Porschie doesn't deserve a closely to Andy, but I feel like She's like had a not uneventful but she didn't have a lot of drama this season, like you know, okay.

1:18:25 You know what I mean.

1:18:26 And then I will say, I don't know the order of Kelly and then Cynthia, Kelly, and Pinky and Drew. I would put Cynthia on the couch, Kelly, Pinky, Drew. I would put kym Scholl and Phedra in the green room and they can just watch it on the screens because since they didn't contribute much to the entire season, they can just be where the snacks are.

1:18:51 Not craft services.

1:18:53 Yeah yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised that Porscha wasn't, you know, like a. But I just feel like as far as like drama, like Angela was kind of busy and that's my girl, but she was kind of busy and everybody else's ship.

1:19:06 She was kind of being the mouthpiece. It's up that she had nothing to do with.

1:19:09 But yeah, uh, Cay, Michelle came, sell and and Fhaser can actually just carpool together and hang out in the green room.

1:19:18 Claudia, it's gonna.

1:19:20 Be small and talls.

1:19:21 Via like you know how they clustered the couches. I do feel like it might be as Smalls and Talls couch though too.

1:19:28 Okay, here's my prediction.

1:19:32 I'm just as far as being involved in the drama. I think I had more of a peaceful season than I thought she was gonna have. I thought it'd be more drama with the sway and all that, So that's what I thought.

1:19:41 Well, you had two of them in the green room, So do you agree? Is A can be cleaning the toilet in the commercial break?

1:19:51 I want to give her that because she's got a lot of jobs, but I don't think that's one of her jobs. But I do think she could take the day off like she's been taking the season off, and she could just be in the green room.

1:19:59 Why I spent all that money and glamor in a gown and then please don't come with that ship you had on last season with the bullshit like this was her last season.

1:20:06 Oh yeah, the head the head thing, Yeah, that was weird. It was giving real gladiated with with with no Gladiator.

1:20:14 Carlos.

1:20:16 I just want to go on record say Monday nights is my favorite night of the week. Okay, so all right, this is.

1:20:28 Okay.

1:20:28 I'm stuck in the bathroom. All right, so here we go. I think first chair is Porsche.

1:20:36 Should me you can see that too, of course, yes, okay, So I'll go.

1:20:41 To Porscha's collge.

1:20:42 I see Porscha, College being, Porsche, Angela Oakley, juice A, Dora mm hmm, Phaedra wow, I see phaithe I see so once again, Porsche, first chair, next to Portia.

1:21:01 Angela, next thing, Angela drew and then.

1:21:04 Phases at the end, and then Cynthia comes out right ye on this couch, I see Samia, Kelly mm hmm, Cay, Michelle. Literally just.

1:21:30 We see each other.

1:21:32 It's crazy that it's crazy that as much as.

1:21:38 Like Cynthia as a friend of the show was so much more relevant this season than some of the housewives were in there the housewives. And that's what's like, she she she deserves like she facilitated from a member of out the Gate. We're praising her about how great she was in that role, but then she became bigger than in front.

1:21:55 Of the show.

1:21:55 She it's like almost you forgot, like it was like she was more clocked in and locked in. Then some of the housewives were sorry, call me here, I don't give a fuck, y'all call me hat her.

1:22:05 Yes, I'm not.

1:22:07 It feels like when Michelle Obama comes out and we can beg her to run for president, and she don't want them to do with us. She just wants to show up and say hi, Ki Bailly is a Michelle Obama and America is Atlanta. Like I just came to say hi, y'all. I'm not trying to say we love her so much want to she don't want to know.

1:22:23 Cynthia's great. Cynthia's great, and once again God's great season. And I want to say this not that I give a ship to give a disclaimer. The Beauty of Mother and I lie that clearly, you guys love because we're seeing the numbers here. I love the fact that we only stick with what we're watching on the show.

1:22:41 Right and listen, there's tons of people who recap the shows, and I love all the people, right, But what I will say, the Beauty of Mother and I lie. We stick with the show. We know we know so much shit about everything that I love the fact that we don't try to bring in outside influences things, things we may know by talking to people.

1:23:04 You guys should really appreciate the fact that we are.

1:23:07 Literally sticking to what we watch on the show, and that's the beauty of us, and the beauty of the four of us is as you saw tonight, we had a lot of disagreements, but it was respectful disagreement and we love the point of view like we always do. And but I just want to say, I love That's why I love doing this with you guys, because we definitely do a good job at that. And the beauty is, the beauty is things can change in the next episode.

1:23:35 That's why you should never feel comfortable like I'm the fan favorite, I'm this, I'm that Every episode showed us something a little bit more about these women that were able to talk about. So I want to say, yeah, wonderful. All right, so listen, Blue, Claudia and Dustin. I will see you guys next week. Make sure to watch the Real House Spots of Atlanta every Sunday the next day on Peacock as well.

1:23:57 I love you, guys, Love y'all.

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