Part THREE, Peach Please! | RHOA Reunion Recap with Dustin, Claudia & Blue

Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops, the Monday Night Live cruise headed to New York City. We have a live show on Sunday, September twentieth at the City Winery in New York City. That's right, Come see me. Carlos King, Blue Centric, Claudia Jordan, and Dustin Ross live on stage

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Now is the time, Claudia Blue and Dustin I'm kind of I'm kind of sad because it is the last time we get to recap Atlanta Housewife season seventeen.

We will get to rate.

So range job you see at the bottom of the screen. Our last topic is rate that peach. So what that means is we are going to so you want to stay till the end, rain drops, Claudia, Dustin Blue and I are going to give you all our rating for the top to the bottom, which sounds like Mike Weekend.

No bottom to the top.

We said bottom, bottom to the top, which is really Dustin's Weekend.

Oh okay, it's what Campbell say.

It's the journey said, I'm still opened up. She said, not open up? Hell yeah, yes, yes, yes, do it.

We will rate in terms of who we think was the bottom of the barrel, and who say the bottom.

We're not saying that it's it's it's.

You're saying the bottom, Carlos.

And who we think our top peachholder is, so leaving the comments, who you think is number one and number eight? Honorary mentioned to Cynthia Bailey, Okay, who is everything and we love you. We will be to be fair, we will be giving that to the peach holders.

Okay on my list, I'm so sorry.

No, it's okay, listen, look spoiler, Cynthia's number one on our.

Okay, I'm like number one friend.

Yes, okay, to be fair, to be fair, I wanted to do the peach holders.

So Cynthia, just know you're you're still number one.

Okay, let's get into the real Housewatch Atlanta Reunion Part three.

It did kick off with k Michelle.

Now listen, the Dallas trip was brought up in this particular part through reunion. But the first thing they brought up was obviously the biggest topic of Dallas besides the dirty rooms, allegedly was Cay Michelle feeling like somebody was plotting against her.

Cay Michelle did give us insight in this reunion.

She did say that they were on a bus and that Drew said something about trying something someone like frying fish or in regards of frying fish, and that's when k Michelle thought it was a scheme that Todd set up in terms of somebody talking about the rumors that she had to deal with years ago from a person I don't want to go in to detail, child Lord knows, I don't need any smoke.

Hey.

Claudia Michelle did say that, in hindsight, she should have let a play out because by her not addressing it, it became a bigger story what the alleged revelation was going to be. Dustin did you feel like learning that tidbit about Drew mentioning frying fish? Do you feel like it gives credence to k Mischelle's.

Paranoia? No, okay, thank you for having us.

Well, I mean, it's just a very complete, you know, answer for that, because the problem with it is it involves a bunch of people and a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with the Real Housewives of Atlanta, and it distracts us from getting to know Cay Michelle and enjoying her personality and enjoying her really being present in the moment. I really think that the show itself, the Real Housewives of Atlanta, is above that rumor about the smell. I really think that kay Michelle as a talent, as an artist who is over a decade into her career, I think that she's above that rumor. I don't think that the audience even knows that about that rumor. A lot of the audience is just getting to know ky Michelle,

and so I really hate that that rumor even found its way into this space, which was really new for her, and I'm sure she was looking forward to new experiences in this space. So I'm not sure why she was so hell bent and determined to bring that into this space and then use it as a device to now navigate her relationships or lack thereof, with these ladies. So I'm looking forward to a reset for her next season.

Claudia, I've been.

Going back and forth with this. I think two things would be true. At the same time, I do think that I wish you would have ignored it and not brought it to the I don't think the Bravo viewers may have been as on a hip to it as some of the other viewers. But at the same time, these girls do be trying it. Let's be very clear and then be like, what do you mean. I didn't mean it like that. It was all over the place. Okay, there's no way that those girls didn't know about that.

It was on the Breakfast Club, it was all all over the place for years. It was a huge deal that was made about it. And so like, on one hand, these girls are such big fans of hers. On the other hand, they don't know anything about the rumor. I don't know. I don't have proof, but I'm just saying. I'm only saying that to say I don't think Kay Michelle was wrong for being a little paranoid about because two people both said comments about fish and fishy smells and stuff like that. I would be sensitive to that too if that was out there about me. But I do wish she would have said what she said on the meding like and just paid it dust, because it did get bigger by her putting a light on it.

But like I, let's let's let's admit, let's let's not deny that. On these shows, a lot of times people will gaslate the hell out of you and say things, put it out there, and then when they're called to the carpet, hit you with a what do you mean you? And that happens. That happens in all reality shows, you know what I mean. So I get why k was sensitive about it, is what I'm saying, but I also get that it got elevated because of her saying something about it.

Yeah, Blue, Yeah, this one's a little tricky, right because when people mentioned fried fish, my first thought is it my vagina? So that's that that's there's a level of hypervisilance that you have to be operating from under for that to trigger you in that way. And however, Comma Drew is not above that type of shade. Drew's not above it. Drews is exactly the If I had to pick somebody who would say your smellfish, it would be Drew.

So I'm giving you a little bit of credit. If I was to pick the person who would pick that as a job, it would be Drew. But they were also in Texas. Everything is fried, the water is fried. So I don't you know what I mean, there's so many everything is possible. It's possible. So it's like.

You're here, but it was a fish oyster. It was a fish oyster combo with oysters. If you don't think like that, because no one's ever put a rumor about you about your smell, but imagine, imagine if there was right and a million people heard it.

You might be Clai. I completely am on your side. I completely understand what you're saying. I'm also saying, we're in in the fried food capital of the world, so it's like, damn.

It, are we in the oyster capital of the world.

You know, I think it's I think it's a note that before the rumor came upon the show, all of us watching the show. When we talked about Ky Michelle being added to the cast when we were joking, that rumor never made its way to our conversation. Never, And although it may have been a big story at the time that it happened, you know what I'm saying, it was nothing that was even in our awareness. I know nobody on this panel was thinking about a rumor that about that rumor, I don't even want to repeat it.

So this assumption that everybody's thinking about this and some pipe we might use.

It to Plly, I think it's a little far fetched. If that was so.

Present and prevalent in conversations with god in k Michelle, I'm sure it would have made it to its way to conversations we've had even off the show about her being on the show, and it never made its way to that. So I think that K Michelle and a lot of other people in the audience rather who may have followed her from other projects, are giving that rumor a lot more gas and energy than it deserved. It was hurtful, I'm sure who would want something to be said about them, you know what I'm saying, And she deserves some grace for that. Nobody was fucking thinking about that.

When it comes to this shows.

The vocal minority though in Kate, I.

Never thought about that.

When I never thought about it, I will say.

This, I knew about it.

If sky Daddy came down right now and said, I'm gonna show you what really happened. If we saw that there was no fishing site in Texas and it came out of nowhere and Drew was being shady, I'd be like, I believe that. If we saw that they passed by Roscoe's fist joint and she really was like I would love some whiting and k just like, oh it's time to fight. I would believe that there's I would literally believe every single scenario. Yeah, it's all possible.

It's not top of mind for us because it's not about us, but when it's.

You know, if somebody told you that your goot smelled.

Like, it's like see and that's your that's your achilles tendon, right, that's your achilles heel, because it is something that you probably have the battle like. You know, there's certain things that I don't know if you guys have dealt with, like rumors about yourself online, but that becomes like how could I think that you know?

You?

You kind of moved through the lens of and a lot of times when it's about you, you think the world thinks that even though the Internet is not even the majority of the people, right, it feels bigger to.

You though, Like I mean, it's not your fault. It happened, but it's your responsibility not to take it everywhere with you.

And then that's what I think. I'm gonna give this a second dozen two this, this is what I think I think, and I think all of you are right number one. But I will say this, I think in all fairness to k Michelle, like Claudia said, and I do agree with this. Listen, I have been involved in rumors that weren't true about me, and there is this heightened sensitivity that doesn't that that that reappears, right, It reappears when something small happens. But that's why, to Blues point, you do have to find within yourself and remind yourself only you are are creating this for you to believe it's something that is happening.

Right.

I do agree with Blue in terms of that, I grew with Claudia in terms of when if you it's in you. I will say this, like Ky Michelle, I think unfortunately for ky Michelle as well, Unlike us, she is entering this big show that is the biggest black female ensemble show in the world. And because I know personally this is something she always wanted, she got it.

And like Claudia said too, this isn't a show to where no.

One's above it, right above spreading things.

So I think with the heightened sensitivity that yes, is just in her. I agree with Dustin. I gotta be honest with you. I've known this woman since we did love and hip hop. They want, I promise on everything I love. I forgot about it because because in my in my purview as a in pop culture.

It's not top of mind for me.

When I think of kay Michelle, I think of love and hip hop, I think of music, and I think of the amazing sayings that she has. But with that being said, yes, you can't discount how she feels. But I did say this day one, and I'm never going to change my tune. That's why I've always said, Okay, you should have never brought this up, and if anything, if anything, I yes, I would have prepared myself for a response.

Yeah, that got brought.

Up, and I will say this every Let me not say every A lot of housewives, right, and I'm not just speaking on this show, but like a lot of these reality shows, when you know you're going on a show, or you know a new cast members coming on, Trust and Believe, a lot of these girls will do a lot little bit of research just to have something in their pocket in case someone ever comes at me.

So if this lead not to cut you off, I want to add to you.

Jason Lee did reveal that allegedly some women did contact him to get a te get a te on Chemis show.

He did say that it happens like they go on there and okay, such is being added. Let me have something, not even saying we're fighting. I don't like this person, but just in case you come at me, I have something ready to go. Trust and Believe, and people that say they don't do it, I'm side eying. Like it's a common thing that happens on a lot of these shows.

And I'm glad that Jason Lee confirmed that because it's something they reach out to other bloggers. They do their research, they look at old rumors, they go on Lift the Galley, they get things that they can have so they can quickly have something to say. It happens. It happens to everybody on that show.

Honestly, Clara Angela does it, so, yeah, it definitely happens. Yeah, some of them are more obvious than others. No, I love her, but I told you I don't like it. But she's just inspected gadget. But she's proofn Claudia's point. She's not the only inspected gadget on the show.

I would say that they've all probably done it.

Yeah.

Yeah, Moving on to Porsche and came Michelle, they did make up. Porcha said, look, we had a little sisterhood kind of fight.

Pretty much. I like you, you like me. We can move move on from it.

Shamia then decides to ask Porsche about a comment that Porscha made in my interview with her where she did say that Cay Michelle picked the wrong team and Shemiah felt that you guys had accused me of having an alliance. What did you mean by that team comment? Porscha said she did not mean it the way Smia is interpreting it.

She was more so talking about the fact that, look, you're you like this person. Those things may change as the season continues. And then there was unseen footage that was shown where Fedra did say that came Michelle takes ambient.

Shemiah said, it's easy to make her.

Feel like she's the fall guy because she has fallen out with so many of these women. Claudia bumps your thoughts about that, especially the unseen footage of the shade that phades through Kate Michelle.

You know, I didn't like this reunion honestly because towards the end it's seeing what they were like it was getting light and fun, and it just it just it's so catty, petty. Mean, I didn't like it. It doesn't feel fun when it's like a pylon, right. And I'm not saying Smi is right on a lot of stuff, because she's definitely contribute to how so many people feel about her, but like when she does improve a point or is right about a thing in an argument, it just gets glazed over. She said, that's what was said.

They were like, no, I didn't, And then lo and behold the roll that beautiful being footage back and there's Phaedria saying that she was on ambient. So it's like, you know, I know, once you don't like someone it's hard to give them any kind of compliments or grace or just say yeah, you are right. But I struggle with that too, But you have to. You have to when someone's right, even if it's not your favorite. You got to say, hey, man, she was right on that regard, because they cut right to it and no one gave her credit for that. And then even Kay said, you never told me not to be friends with those girls, and it just got brushed under the rug. And it's like, so it just looks like a complete like nope, writing

her off everything. Tomia says it's bullshit, a lie, she's fake. She says, she's a she's all the things. But like there's a there's a there's a a cause and effect to a lot of this stuff. Now I don't know who's the origin of all the bad and all of this, but I will say, in that moment, specifically, what you're asking me about, she was mindicated somewhat to me, and everyone just kind of brushed right past it because they don't like her, so they ain't giving her hit. So yeah, came to Shelfers saying that though it got lost and everybody jumping because everyone's been talking over each other. They all do it, and we didn't really get to a big enough point. Wasn't made about that, And I think that was a big deal.

Blue for me, it was. It was interesting. I'm gonna tell you this, I'm so exhausted of the Portia Shmiah thing. It's over. Yeah, And I'm the kind of person that you got one time to tell me you don't want me bet I'm the Torius for saying bet. So for me, this is already long winded. I'm over it. They're not going to be friends again. It's over. Let's make peace with that, Let's mourn it, and let's move the fuck on.

So all these little pieces and the granulars, I don't care like it's over. And I think there's a part of Shemiah that is still in mourning, and a part of her hopes that even when they said what's the last thing you could say to everybody? They all have these great points and Shamia's thing was being more forgiving, I think. And this is not a bad thing, by the way, because I relate to it. There's a part of Shemiah that still hopes that there's a level of comprehension or understanding that Porsche will have for her that will soften her heart to her, and Porscha's over it, like that relationship is dead. And so Shemiah is seeking to be understood while the other person's moved on. Right, And we've all been in that predicament on either side,

where we're either the person who the person's trying to explain themselves You're like, bitch, I've left the group chat, I'm not in this anymore. Why are you explaining? It doesn't matter what you say, I'm over it, Or the person who's thinking, well, maybe if I just make sense and make this point and have this win and x Y, she doesn't care. It's over and I look forward to next year when we can all move the hell on.

I don't care about the ambient comment. I don't care. First of all, it was Porsche who was talking and said I didn't say that, and the show was it wasn't her, it.

Was a Phaedra.

Right. So it's a perfect example of because your heart is broken about Porsche, every slight somehow still brings you back to her because you still love her. Right. Grief is love that's lost its way. Grief is love that has nowhere to go, Sami is still loves Porsche and it is grieving the fact that she is dead to Porsche.

Porsche is done with it, right. And also that part at the end where I'm gonna be honest with y'all. If I ever come on the show and I told you not to mention my mother or my child and you keep mentioning it, that's my last day on the show. Those kind of boundaries enough, right, them bringing up the mother and the child thing. Even when Andy said, why why are you shooting baggers at me? She's like, because I said, I don't want to talk about my mother or my child enough enough, you know what I mean.

So yeah, I'm just saying that at a certain point, we're beating a dead horse. The horse is dead.

The horse, Claudia, the horse is dead.

Oh wait, did I accidentally unleash the horse?

I accident the perfect So so dust, do you agree with blew that?

Look what we was Smiah looking for a moment to talk about how she feels is possibly be.

Whatlse.

I'm looking for the empathy to feel understood out.

It's when the contradiction, I'm sorry, the contradiction in terms of ports saying I forgive you, We're good, but also saying, well, you did say ky Michelle was going to choose the wrong team, and I feel like it because everybody's against me. You guys make it seem like they are because of me. Or was Shamia reaching making sense? And did the ambient clip help her case?

Well, let's start at your last part of your question. No, the ambient clip did not help her case. They were talking shit about ky Michelle, just like ky Mi. Shelle's been talking about them and their confessionals, just like Porsche and Shamia used to talk shit.

Together about people when they were on good terms. That's all it was.

So the that was not the smoking gun that I think Shemiah thought it was, And her even resorting to that is an example of her misalignment with with the with when and how Shamiah speaks up for herself. And we'll get more into that later. Because I truly love Shamiah on this show. I want her to be she deserves to be a part of this and and I'm glad that she'll continue to be on it. But I want her to just have a I want Shmi to just take a hot shower and just sit in front of her vanity. You know what I'm saying in her beautiful you know, master bath, you know what I'm saying, And wear in some really luxurious towels.

And just steam her face all of that.

Not white diamonds, not white diamonds perfume, literal white diamonds on her body, you know what I'm saying in her mirror, in that beautiful mansion, and just center herself and really be like, I am going to start being honest and reacting in real time with my real emotions and do that instead of.

What she's been doing.

And we'll dig a little bit deeper into that when we get into our ratings of the housewives. But Porscha and Shamia, that's a dead relationship at this point. There's always a chance for reconciliation in the future. And Porscha was the leader while they were friends, and she's leading the charge post the breakdown of their friendship. Porscha was setting the rules of engagement for them on that stage in real time, and Shamiyah was being compliant and subordinate to Porscha in that way and accepting those new terms because now she truly can say how she feels. And she's still answering questions saying, well, I actually agree. I think instead of saying I'm mad about this, you made me feel like this, this is how I feel. I

don't care what you're talking about. We're going to talk about what I want to talk about. It's just a difference in the approach. So I was not swayed by that information of faed you talking shit about that ambient or whatever it was that she said, that's the housewife shit.

It wasn't a smoking gun to me.

This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

Let's get back into the show.

Andy asked a question from a viewer if Kelly was a rebound BFF for Shemia, because of course Shemia fell out with Portia and this in this conversation. Obviously, Kelly said no, that her and Shamia developed a friendship, but within this conversation it did come up. In regards to Faedro representing Kelly, Kelly did reveal that she did pay Faedrus team ten thousand dollars. It wasn't free. Faedrus said the billable hours was well over sixty thousand dollars and that she did get a discount Kelly's like, look, I didn't know it was a discount. All I know is you gave me a bill for ten thousand dollars and it was paid. Portia asked, well, why are you trying to Why are you trying to discredit Phaedra? And Fadra

did say that she felt like she was being discredited. Claudia, do you feel like Kelly was discrediting the work that Faedra did do whether or not she paid ten thousand and the work that actually did occur with sixty.

I don't know. I think she was responding to all the there was like all that stuff online that Kelly's broke and she got sixty thousand dollars worth of free legal like the ager just you know, like just did all this stuff for free, right, sixty thousand dollars worth. So I think she wanted to make a point that no I paid something. Maybe she was discounting it. I don't know how much work that Fadra did on it.

I do know that there was a positive result. So you know, I get how Kelly's like, I get paying, and I get how Fage's like, hold on, bitch, I mean it could have been more. I did give you a discount. So I think they both have a you know, a dog, and they both have a valid complaint. I could see how they would both feel actually I'm both on it. But yeah, but I did tell you about that ten thousand last week, and that did come from Kelly.

I'll been to that, all right, Kelly.

Delightfully just love it.

She adn't be mad about that, no, because I sent your voice. Mama's like, yo, did she do sixty thousands worth the free work for you? That's dope? And She's like, well, I did pay some. And I was like, wow, I'm listen. I do this journalism.

We're gonna have so much fun in New York, Claudia, We're gonna have so much fucking fun.

I do this journalism thing and throw my body and of the bus and the train. For you people is a.

Red light and the bus not moving. Cloda, you could just chill, no Blue.

That is not my style. I am an arians. We don't do the tip. We did the whole shaft ball deep Okay.

Well, speaking of a shaft, I don't.

If I'm missing out you.

Are recover from.

I'm gonna tell you this, and Dustin can probably can validate and back this up. I tell people, probably I may not be great at everything, but I'm gonna tell you this, there will never be a dumb moment in our relationship. Oh we know that end of the day eight years ago we got together. We've been broken up before.

He's like, you ain't lying, and everyone does that. We messed up in this function, but it won't be born.

That's right, God damn it.

Shaft.

Okay, So what's the pagunta again? What's the question?

You know, what's down to effect now?

And I said, I actually, let's get that.

Well, I just want to get to this one for you because listen, listen, I'm only saying Porta's couch because she's.

First chair, so leave me alone.

Yeah, and I want to say Cay Michelle's couch because she's first chair.

Leave me alone.

Okay, So it.

Was Portia's couch versus Ky Michelle's couch. And to peggyback off of what Claudia said about Kelly, Drew stepped in and you know, like Claudia said, Kelly felt like, Okay, I need to defend myself because everyone's making it seem like I got no money.

But you know, Andie did say well, girl, you.

Six thousand dollars for a teeth. You don't want to say it was thirty. You know pocket that thirty? You know the rest of it.

She said, who said he didn't?

She did? He didn't?

Right, Drew mentioned, you know obviously she went to Kelly's restaurant, said she did go to support but couldn't support because it was closed.

Not true.

I love you, but girl, cousin, no, damn won't. That's why some fish, Drew. This is why everything's possible, you know, damn wold. That's a lot Drue cousin, I love you, what I haven call you a lot on that one.

What's the question loose?

Yeah, the question was are these girls ganging up on Kelly? You have favorites? Feeling like she was discredited, and Drew said, I did.

Come and support you, but I could not support you because my support was not allowed because your restaurant was Closedike was that.

I don't think they're ganging up on Kelly. I think Kelly can handle all of them. At the same time, there's a viral video of people fighting.

I love fight videos.

But there's a viral video of people fighting. This fight on the internet where they're like in a parking lot around the park and there's one person that is taken on. I think it's a young lady. She's taking on like and motherfuckers at the same time. And that's the energy Kelly brought to that reunion stage for sure. And listen, I'm a person that believes that the reunion stage is the battleground for the tough conversations. It's where you're supposed to show off how tough you are and what you can handle. And that's where people are going to throw whatever they have your way if they are interested in disrupting your experience, and you either can handle that or you can't. And I feel like Candy as well. But

I feel like Kelly can handle herself on that reunion stage.

And I also don't feel like it was a pile up.

These are people who she has legitimate disagreements and issues with. It just happened to be more in them than it is her. So you know what I'm saying. It looked like that, but it wasn't a pile up. I don't think she even intimated that it was a pile up. She literally just faced each confrontation head on, So I thought it was a fair and powerful the course and the way that it goes on the stage.

And blue Kelly did act poor said to get her naked.

Mob get her, he said, get your go naked models to get Yes, that was kind of funny.

It was funny. But they also make money though, so you know it was.

Funny and that's funny.

You're yeah, it's funnier that that naked open I do. I think it's diminishing though. I do think she diminished though to the diminished question, As someone who just came out of a four year legal battle, if my lawyer gave me a fifty thousand dollars discount, I might give him a blow job. I'm not this is a joke, but I'm just saying a fifty dollars discount is a big deal. Baby.

There's no world.

I'm just joking. He's a happily married man. I love you, friend, but I'm just saying, there's no world where I'm getting a fifty thousand dollars discount where I'm not being anything other than grateful. Like to me, anything other than gratitude was weird to me. So that actually was my least favorite Kelly moment. I was like ill, bitch. She gave you fifty thousand dollars discount when you were looking at four thousand dollar apartments. That's like a rent. I know how to do math, right, y'all talk fast, but I count slow as a tourist. So she offers you a year of housing for free. You welcome, bitch, That's what I would feel. I but fed don't know how to read child. She just starts to make faces.

But also, don't do nothing for me. If you're gonna wash my face with it.

You know what I'm saying, Like, if you give me the discount, then just let me be give just give me the account. Nobody even needs to know that it is thousand dollars worth of work.

Yes, she paid me, but when we.

Discussed it, it's a year of housing. Mathematically facts or facts a year of housing when you were you were grateful. Shamia gave you two weeks. Phaeder gave you a year. That's just called math. So it was diminishing. There's no great for me on that because I can count. That's the first thing. What's the next question, Carlos.

Opera, God, what.

I just put a calculator. I didn't do nothing. Controversial. That's just called happening account.

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Yeah, they got a lot of cute stuff, by the way, So I'm shout out at Home good I didn't want to ask you this, you know. I mean Kelly did say get your gold naked models. She caused the Golden Retrievers. Angela said you have new teeth and nowhere to sleep, You broke bitch, Claudia Jordan. Was that a rehears read or was that off the down?

Well, it's not.

Really rehearse, if you like, respond to what someone else said. So you know what I'm saying, because she was responding to I don't know. I didn't like it.

There are my feelings, and I wasn't even there.

No, I mean, the no place to stay thing is like kind of like redundant. It's like it's been driven to the ground when we all know it was only two weeks. I'm like, but it was a read in real time. It was it was okay, it was angel still that bitch.

It's fair play. It was fair play. Kelly was in shaken. She had something to say for sure, in return, she had at a return serve. And I don't think that she was offended by the notion of it being said. I don't think she liked it, I'm sure, but I think that Kelly came to get down, okay, and that's exactly what she did. So to me, it was not too far. I don't think anything on the stage was too damn far. I think they did with housewives are supposed to motherfucking do on the reunion stage, and I personally enjoyed it.

Blue My breathfast took for a second, like, oh but yeah, I was like, oh my god, yeah, sometimes the girls get a good look in between that and the gold naked models. I was like, oh, well, the girls are reading. I will say this though, and we're gonna get to this. We're talking about the Peach rankings, because I did have a very stringent and clear way that I ranked these ladies.

To hear them, Yeah, I'm so annoyed you made because you know, I don't believe in ranking people. I believe we can all co exist in all.

You know how many people are gonna make videos about this ship tomorrow mad at the rankings that they don't Oh, I can just see it now. I'm not gonna be on Yes I am.

They don't have to diematic because we mean it. No. But I think that Angela and Kelly. I would actually like to see them make up because I think they're stronger together. I think if somebody ever pissed off Angela and Kelly and they had each other's backs, it would be the fireworks show of the century. So I'm personally rooting for them to become friends. And you know, the girls are weird ship during the off season and come back with new besties. So I'm hoping this is the next remix.

People that they hated one these they next season.

I want a Kelly Angela little duo. I need to see that. I need to see it. I need to see it.

Kelly and Angela like they are, they are what do you call them? Carlos sports multipliers, like they get back they did, both of them.

I will say this, I I I actually disagree with Blue, but hear me out because you fight.

Messy. You thought you were working on that. I'm like, you didn't want to get mess.

I don't care. I do want peace.

I disagree.

I know I want pee.

Listen, We'll get to this later. I do want peace with Poria, but.

That I in the Middle East. You want piece of the middle exactly world piece what happened for that happened.

So I do want peace, just not with Kelly and Angela. I will say that.

I know this would have sound so.

Crazy, but listen, I am a real Housewives, motherfucking historian.

Okay.

I grew up producing Lenipia and Kim Zosiak Mimi Kim Charay.

So yes, so hear me out. Hear me out.

And Angela and Kelly are forest multipliers. They have the I and the tea and when they read the marathon, and it could go on forever and ever and ever, and no one's getting tired. I will say selfishly as a viewer, I would love to see Angela versus Kelly.

That's you know.

How, you know how like no shade we all enjoyed, like Mimi and Claudia, right, like we all.

Enjoyed Giselle and Karen.

I'm just saying that there is something delicious about Angela and Kelly's beef with each other that I know will never get dangerous, which is why I like it.

Okay, I see that, and I agree, yep, okay, okay, that.

Mess want to mess to a Look at y'all fun, I know, because they would be also be fun if they were all the same, Like yeah, look back again.

Some of the biggest beasts like Giselle and Karen, Like, imagine them partnering up and like taking down someone else that's annoying. Imagine that if me and Ninnie were back on another season and like we had a lunch and we was like, all right, bitch, I'm over yeah me too, but I respect you, I respect you, and then we clowned the someone else.

That's all we love.

We love those moments.

We got that in season twelve when for the brief moment when Porsche and Kenya were on the same side or was that eleven, No, that was twelve when Porscha and Key were on the same side at the snake Gate. Remember when they were in Toronto and then they cornered they worked together the corner yo yo, Yeah.

I loved when Kenya had her baby shower. I flew in for that and then I saw Porscha there and I was like, wow, Like, But what I liked about it was, I'm a side eye when you make up with someone overnight when it was that deep, when it's something where it's like saying horrible, vicious things about each other for a long time, right, and then you have one little sit down or you decide you both don't like someone and you like friends overnight. Because I hate that grinds my gears, shouts Peter Griffins, some family guy that grinds my gear so much. When I see it, I feel like that's so fake and it's so performative.

But what I liked about their beef was it happened over time, and that's why it seemed more legitimate, and when it happened it felt very real to watch, like, wow, lookout far yok came years later, you're actually at her baby shower, and like, legitimately they were happy for each other and who would have thought you would have seen that it didn't It didn't, but they did get there after it was and it wasn't so fake like overnight like some of these.

That's why.

Point listen, I grew Claudia on this.

I think I think, I think it's cute.

I think it's too I want to watch Angel make up and then fight again, but like, don't make up overnight, and then it just feels like, all right, you're a flip flopper.

Like I want to see them both read each other at least five more times coming to and they can be fun but fun.

That's why the carter is down.

Yea, let's speak here, go ahead.

Dev re Union set the stage for season eighteen blood baths between Porscha and Sma, Porsche and Kelly, Kelly and Angela, Kelly and Porsche, low Key, Porscha and Ky, Michelle, Pinky and Thandra. Okay, the stage was said for all of that, So season eighteen, Porscha literally said, Eddie said, where we're gonna go?

How where do we go from here?

Porscha said, immediately to hell, Hell, Hey, Kelly said, I'm fine, Let's do it baby all season. Kelly is okay, So let's not act like that's not what we're gonna get next season.

Of course.

Yeah, I can speak for everybody when we say we want these ladies to resolve these issues.

We don't want this to be no lingering ship it. But I'm looking forward to.

The fireworks next season, in season eighteen, when we have already seen these ladies jail together as a cast, some for two seasons, some for next season, it'll make three. The conflicts, the beefs, the emotions involve, all of that is gonna be on a very authentic, real level because of the time that they've spent together.

We're just getting to the good fights. So let them fight, you.

Know what I'm saying, and like Carlo said, safely to a point where they can come back from it. But we just getting to the fucking good part, you know what I'm saying. Like next season is when we're really gonna get the good shit.

As a fan of reading, I would like to give a little unsolicited advice to Angela and to Kelly. It's unsolicited. Y'all could say I don't give a fuck what you think, and guess what I'm getting fucked that you don't give fuck what I'm about to say. I don't say this. What makes it read good is something we haven't heard over and over and over again right from you. So please, Kelly, no more references to Angel's big feet. Who cares it's been, it's been, it's been run to the ground, and Angela no more reads about Kelly being broke in her new teeth. Okay, we know that, Like y'all are both clever enough, you're gonna keep it going. Give us some new give us something that we all noticed but we no one said

it yet. Then we'll be like, gag. But if it's the same, it's yawn boring because y'all y'all did that. We know angel got big feet, we know Kelly got some new ass teeth, and that she she had some financial problems. We know this already, and like it's not a read anymore. It's like, oh god, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, no, I agree, I agree, Dustin. I want to you start with this.

Cynthia Bailly and Shamia got into it over the dirty room in Dallas.

Cynthia said she walked.

Through each room and no one called it dirty upon taking it. Media and Kelly said understood the ship was still dirty and that they had to wait two days for it to be clean.

That Cynthia told me it was clean. Cynthia and Smia had a little bit of a shade off.

You know, Listen, don't underestimate Cynthia Denise Bailey because she has gone against Mimi Portia, Mary.

Lord, Marklaw.

Yes, so Cynthia and Peter Thomas Honey the biggest housewives of.

Sedra.

Cynthia has definitely battled with the biggest of them. So I thought it was very funny to see the split screen between her and Shamia.

But Dustin, what are your thoughts?

Do you think not that you have against some context, Cynthia said, look, I showed you all the room, no one said it was dirty before they claimed it, and that she can only rely on people telling her was clean, that she didn't physically go there for a magnifying glass and a blue light.

To check. Was Shamia and Kelly oliveline.

Or were they substantiated based on that fact toy okay.

So first thing we're gonna recognize is the fact that we all know Cynthia would never put them in a dirty room, full stop.

We know that Cynthia went out of her way to make sure that the room was clean.

If the room really was dirty, then those ladies obviously would be, you know, kind of thrown off by that, and it would interrupt their schedules of you know, cleaning themselves up and getting dressed for the next event, and that would piss anybody off. So I'm not saying they shouldn't be upset, but Samia and Kelly talked about it in a way that felt accusatory towards Cynthia, and I think that's what the viewers and Cynthia herself kind of took umbridge with, right, But it wasn't a big deal.

At the end of the day. We all know that Cynthia is a vet, the vet of all vets. She ain't tripping over this bullshit. Shemiah has much bigger fish to fry, so does Kelly. So I think that's why all three ladies kind of just piece it up and moved on. Cynthia was warm and receptive to it, even though they had a little back and forth. You knew it wasn't gonna go too far with those two because they really have no issue with each other.

So it was what it was.

But stop acting like Cynthia puts you in a dirty room on purpose, because you know she didn't.

And that's it. Blue.

It was tired, child. She's like, we still gotta get out of here. We're still talking about the damn Roomnia was tired. This could have been an email. And I understand her feeling like that because it did feel dragged out and drawn out. And even she said she was like, so you guys were not clean enough to tape with us, but you were still taping and then we're doing the show, Like, yeah, we're doing the show over here too. I really hate that they didn't join that dinner, Like I really do hate that they did enjoy the dinner because I feel like they'm not joining the dinner. Is when the Talls and the Smalls on intentionally subconsciously kind of made itself solidified to many of the viewers. I think that was

an unnecessary chasm that happened because that was the moment where it became those two. I don't want to say clicks. It was exact. I went back and watched the whole season.

Yeah it is, Oh my god, the rain jobs. I didn't think about that. So Dallas was the trip that started the divide.

Yeah, over over, over a dirty whatever. So I just I wish sometimes it's the smallest thing, the butterfly effect, that creates these big things. I think if the girls had been like, the room is dirty, but y'all were all friends, We're gonna go sit down, and some of y'all dressed ups and was not, let's just ki key, I think that would have been a more fun moment.

Number One, they would have been there for that Pinky and Angela read that was in my the highlight of Angela season in my opinion, right, they would have been there for the fun of that, and it would have taken some of the teeth out of everything. So I felt like it was a fun, old school kind of keykey happening at the main table. And then swing little sweet cheery we got the dirty room like it was just a child. It created it unnecessary, and then they kept dragging on the next day where Cynthia was like, now what else you got? Like, are you serious? We're still talking about this goddamn room. It's been forty eight hours.

So the room was inconsequential and yet still impactful in a way that I wish it hadn't been.

Ce j.

It's like, uh, well, then this happened in Potomac in Colorado. There was a dirty room and cabin, so cavin so listen, I get where. You're on a reality show and everyone else had a chance to freshen up.

Again.

Girls don't want to do scenes if they don't have their proper glamb, and you feel like Sonos has an advantage over you, and you were over here dusty and mussy, and you know people already talking about oysters and fried fish. You definitely want to take a shot before you go to set. Okay, I understand that, but we all know it wasn't Cynthia's fault, Like and y'all know, and I know you guys are newbies, Shemia and Kelly. Maybe y'all really believe that Cynthia has something to do with it.

I don't believe. I think that was great producing by producers. If y'all did that shit, they away from the group and.

They have already debunked that. I told you.

That, can you hit my sound effect?

Can I get my sound effects?

Please?

Because that's what that did create the biggest divide it did. That lasted the whole season.

Blue was right.

It had never got back on since. In a great way to make people beef is something like that and blaming Cynthia, sweet ass Cynthia, when they all know people and producers probably there's probably someone and someone's ear too well, you know, the other girls didn't have a jery. That happens, y'all's follows follows, of course, not on any shows that you produce, but yes, this is happening. It happens, y'all. Listen.

They don't want me to talk. They're probably gonna meet me real quick, so I'm just let you on overhow this happens. All the time. Producers will call you and be like, what if you think about what they said at genneral oh, I think they were shading you, And you're like, I didn't really think about it like that.

Now I do, and now I'm mad. I'm I'm telling y'all. I'm telling y'all, this was probably something I could have been squashing five minutes and it got dragged to a whole beef and get creat a beef. It created a divide, and I do think that like, yo, yes, you one percent should have the same clean accommodation as the other group.

Hell no, wasn't Cynthia's fault. And y'all, I get you don't want to shoot with the other girls and y'all shop while your pool being dustine instead of you know, being with the girls. But it did. It did set up the rest of the season. And yeah, you guys were the enemy after that, so you know, great producer though y'all.

Maybe it was two babies. Yeah, okay.

About that baby.

I don't know about the Lakes babies. I don't know if this boys or girl. It's one of them. That's all I know. He's the boy or girl, that's all I know. I don't know the dude date. I don't know the.

Is it gonna be alco. Are we gonna get drinks backstage before the live show?

Yes, and we'll have.

Yes, girl Blue, We're gonna be drinking and adderall.

On Vegas. I already know this license and in New York too.

It'll it'll it'll be a time.

Well, listen, I'm glad we're laughing at this because unfortunately, you know, we do have to talk about the breaking news that happened in this reunion. Unfortunately, the embryo that Shemiah and Gerald Sarah get took did.

Not pass the first trimester. My condolences obviously to Smia and Gerald.

Here.

Smia also confirmed that Gerald never put the pressure on her, and she put the pressure on her cell.

Because she feels like a failure once again.

She talked about the fact that you know, Gerald gives her so much and she just feels like this is something she wants to give her husband, who truly does spoil her, and I want to give at to ky Michelle. We we well, we did see the first two and a half parts of this reunion. Was the revelation that came Michelle should bea had this episode that happened at dinner, but the fact that Cay Michelle found it within herself to say something.

That y'all know me.

I mentioned the Lord you got me when cay Michelle told Shemiah that when you're down to something, God is up to something, and I thought that, I'm sorry said a long time.

When you're down to nothing, God is up to something.

Yes, when you're down to nothing. Thank you. When you're down to nothing, God is up to something.

And I just thought that was extremely beautiful that Claudia, we can do this.

You want to do this, you tell me what to do.

Damn it.

Well.

I love the fact that you know you broke the sadness. But listen, I want to bring this up. It was a debate on social media whether or not Porscha should have offered condolences to Shemia in this moment, because all the other women did, starting with you Blue. Do you think Porscha should have said something in regards to what happened.

It was a big debate on social media that was divided.

If someone's dead to me, I owe them nothing, like respectfully, I was moved to like I got emotional watching what Smia was going through. It broke my heart for her. I had a thousand percent believed that the pressure was not put on her. It was something she sincerely wanted to do for her partner. I have many friends who are from his same culture who have told me, like, hey, I watch the show. I don't think you understand we're from It doesn't matter what he says. Culturally speaking, the family wants that, you know what I mean. So there's some implied cultural norms that Shamiir probably picked up on and took on herself because she knew what it would mean to not just him but his family, you know

what I mean. So my heart a thousand percent goes out to Shemiah in every way possible, Like it's bigger than the show even, right, So there's no joke around that. And if you talk about my mother crazy, you're dead to me, and I don't owe you shit, and so those two things can coexist. Don't virtue signal after you've crossed certain lines with me, because if you cross the line, you don't get to tell me how to cross back over it. So I don't think Porscher owes her anything because to her should be talking to a ghost. And I do think everybody else having that moment with her made total sense. But yeah, if you ever hear that somebody's done something dirty to me that involves my mother, of all people, none of you all better tell me

I should have sad shit to them personally.

Dastin.

Yeah, I agree with Blue one hundred percent on this. I think it was actually respectful of Porsche to not say anything right because obviously, like she went on to speak on later, she sees the endearing eyes that Shemiah looks at parts of their friendship and the memories of their friendship with.

The best thing.

After the things that they've said and done to each other, said about each other and done to each other, the proper thing to do was for Porscha to do what the gay people called keep it cute.

And that's exactly what she did. You know what I'm saying.

She sat there, didn't have anything to say, she wasn't disrespectful, and she just moved. She just minded hers and a lot of more people need to do that the world would be a better place. So I thought both ladies handled that situation.

Well, yeah, yes, that's heartbreaking.

I disagree. It's called being an adult and having a soul and having listen. The negative of Porscha and Shamia is a drop in the bucket compared to the years of friendship that they were friends. And it can get ugly with you. And I've found grace for someone that I didn't fuck with before I got on the show.

A couple of times, you know, I remember when someone's mom was sick with cancer, on the show we did. I'm not going to say her name, but Carlos, you know who had nothing but bad things to say about me the entire season, made fun of my sexual abuse, all kinds of things. Maybe you y'all may think I'm a sucker for offering some grace, but when her mom was sick, I put together a care package because I put my stuff aside. My stuff with her is a drop in the bucket compared to what you're going through, and it's just called being a decent human being. I think Portie made a big mistake by not offering just a word. You're supposed to be the leader of the show, the so called face of this franchise, and sometimes you

gotta do things. I even got to give Nini some credit. After our beef of season seven, we went at it. We said so much stuff happy this. I talked about a hair, all kinds of things we said. I remember when she had a breakdown at the reunion and we all said some things about it to her, and I'm not going to share rehash all of that, but when I got home from that, it didn't cost me anything to say something nice to her, and it ain't I could have been like, fuck that bitch forever. It's not fucked that bitch for ever. She was having a real moment and and and something was very painful to her.

So I did what a human should do and have some kind of empathy. And when I got home, I checked my email. She written me an email and she said, I know we're not a good place, but and I've never posted this or anything, right, hopefully Nina, you don't mind me saying this. She said, I appreciate the kind things you said to me. And I said, you know what, I appreciate you reaching out to me and saying this as well. And this is some real grown woman shit.

We put our shit aside. And I just would have liked, yeah, I'm on here and you could be like man that bitch for ever. But I just I guess I don't see how how what their beef is as being so evil. They both talked about each other's mother that we can have an argument about who started it, but like to me, there's been worse stuff set on this show about each other and your friend that you had since you were younger lost a last male embryo. I think is a way bigger deal than their petty beefs to me, I think the beeps better. Again. I'm not in it, but I just felt like I feel like she missed an opportunity to show a real leader quality by just saying something like, you know what, although we in a good place,

I feel for you, period, don't have to be fake and do a big, long speech. My opinion.

To me, that's about that's about you.

It's my opinion.

I understand. But once you bring my mother, if you talk about me, I can forgive you.

She didn't bring a mother by himself.

No, I understand. But my thing is once you cross the line with my mother that certain people have lines, and we're allowed to have different lines. If you talk about my mother or my child, I'm allowed to have that line, and it doesn't make it any less decent than anybody else.

Actually doesn't.

Also, also, I think that it is of note here that this is a very fresh thing for them. That shit in Scotland that really was the breaking point for them. It's fairly a fairly recent occurrence. So they're both still very mad at each other. Porsha is still very angry with Shemiah. Shamia is still very angry with Porsha, and I think that it's a bit unrealistic to expect them to be virtuous and you know, and and let their good sense over real their emotion in that moment when it is sufficient. To me my opinion, I think it is sufficient to not have anything to say, not making faces and acting disgusted in the moment or disrespecting, you know, the sanctity of motherhood and the seriousness of what of

the loss.

That Shemiah experienced.

But that also doesn't mean that you have to then muster up some words to say to a person who you are actively angry with, you know what I'm saying. I just think it's a little unrealistic to expect that, and I think it's dope that they just it wasn't anything. I don't think they allowed their disagreement to touch that situation that surrounding Shamia is lost.

I think.

A reason it's what I'm saying literally is a name for why it's valid not to virtue signal. And I would implore people not to self abandon just to look like good, decent people to other people. If you have it to give, give it. But if you don't have it to give, don't lie.

And if I'm talking about something as personal as losing a damn baby, I don't want anybody, anybody that I'm mad at to say anything to me. I'm gonna take that as if the same way that Porscha felt like Smia even bringing up her daughter Palar at that table triggered her.

Right, just bringing her.

Up, she felt like Shamia was using that as a tool to start some shit with her. So if I'm sitting here pouring my heart out about something that's deeply personal as losing my last embryo, which love and prayers and blessings to to to Shamia and her family for that experience, right, But if I'm sitting here kicking it about something that personal, the last motherfucker on earth that better open their mouth. As a person that I'm actively in with, It's not the time. I don't give a fuck about the history. According to Will, it just went down between us. The history wasn't shit anyway. Portia literally just sat on the stage and said, flat out, now I'm realizing this was never a real friend. Those experiences

were what they were, and she may have had this infer from whatever. They're not at a place where they could connect over something that's serious in their relationship.

That's just the facts.

I would only say this if I had been through it, that's all. So I do see that. I don't think it's unrealistic because been there, done that, and it is hard. It's just I've said I would have loved to see that, as I think that would have been a great moment. But you know, it's a I am the show. They're not my friends. But yeah, I think.

I will say, listen, I'm split on it in the sense I think all of you guys are making great points.

I do think what we have.

To remind ourselves is they were, for instance, fourteen, and this isn't some beef that occurred because they met on a reality show, right. These women are in their forties. This is a thirty plus year friendship. Mothers were involved, And honestly, I'm having this light bulb moment because of what Dustin said, because I am reminded too that this is a fresh beef, and I think to give I think, to give both women some grace. I don't have the answer in terms of how to handle this level of vitriol with my best teenage friend, and we're at these odds.

On a national scale where our mothers are involved.

I think when you look at it through that lens, I don't think there is an answer for I think I think Porscha did everything that anybody would have done in that situation based on the history of their friendship. This is thirty plus years and I'm not excusing her behavior. I'm not condoning it. I'm saying this is my opinion.

I don't know what the right thing to do was in this situation or the wrong things objective That's why.

That's the point. There is no right. It's too subjective to make harsh statements on either side because not everybody is the same. That's why compatible, they're incompatible. This is another example of why yeah and incompatible, because both are valid and neither is better or more decent or good. They're different types of people. Where I come from, I don't want my name in your mouth if I don't fuck with you, and especially if it involves a child, a mother, or anything sensitive. I come from a culture where the power of the tongue somebody that you don't fuck with, even mentioned in your name, is considered bad juju.

So for me, culturally, I don't want my name in your mouth. If I don't fuck with you, I don't need your fake canoless, even if it's sincere fine, but I don't owe you access to me or any kind of energy. And I think we need to get out of the habit of not allowing people to be different without diminishing how they move. It's subjective. There's no wrong a right answer, because it's subjective. It's very subjective.

I don't know. I don't even know how people can sit there. And I could not even stomach that. Like, I feel like I want to tear up now about what happened. Like I get what y'all saying. I guess maybe I'm too nice, Maybe I'm a suka. I don't know, but like's not too nice.

It's just it's just a different way of moving. They're both equally valid.

Answer.

They're equally valid. That's the point is they're equal. Though there's limit is value, they're equal.

Someone I had many many years with shares on national television. She lost her last embryo. I could be mad at this bitch, this bitch my fucking nerves, but there'd be something to me that would be like, but yeah, they're arguing about their mother and mother has been beefing since the eighties. Their mom has been beefing. Okay, we've been known this and the oh they bring up the mothers.

They both said she put each other's mothers and it ain't the end of the world what they said either, We've had worse. You know what the end of the world is. What happened to me is embryo. That's the end of the world for that, for that baby.

That irony is. It's motherhood conversation. Embryo is about motherhood.

And I don't want to argue with you about my opinion. I don't like this is so sad you guys, this is so sad to me her.

But my opinion though, so I get to talk about how my opinion is valid though, So I don't want my opinions.

I'm not saying opinions not valid.

That like, I'm not like it's not as decent. Those words hold weight. I never said that, I understand, But it's to say that the decent thing to do the alternative is also decent, not to me exactly, and that's diminishing you.

Blue.

I just don't agree with you. And guess what.

Somebody's talking, please, but I'm saying talking.

We have many times not agreed on this panel, and oh, I don't want you to think that I'm diminishing you as a.

Poss the mother's girl. It feels that way. I will be honest because for me, my mother is my world and the way embryo would be the world for Shamiyah. And because my mother is my world, that makes me as emotional as you are about this embryo.

I could understand there was a one way thing where it was all this season was to mea coming for Portia's mother. I would one thousand cent agree with you. I'd be like you damn right, you damn right, because I can't hear you because we're talking at the same time. I'd be like you, damn right because she was she deserves everything. Because they're a whole season. It's just been one way. She just but it was they were both They're both guilty, right, So I'm just like they almost like watch themselves watch each other. In my opinion, that's why there's fourth where is so we can afford different pinions.

I'm sorry everythink I'm diminishing you. I just don't agree with your bit, I don't agree with your take, and that's okay, because there's been many a show you don't agree with mine, and that's okay.

We're still gonna I don't disagree with your take. I think they can coexist equally. So that's the thing. I don't disagree with your take. I think your take is valid for you and my take is valid for me. So that's actually the difference. I think they're all valid.

It's not the difference, but I'm saying the same thing. We just don't agree with each other.

Look, I do want to say this because I don't want to spend too much real estate on just that moment, because what I what I would like to do is sort of talk about the bigger conversation. So what I'm gonna do is sort of use this opportunity to transition to the end, which is the state of Shami and Porta's friendship. Listen, what happened, which I think, well, let me not assume, but I think all four.

Of us can agree that it was nice.

To see Shemiah hug it out with the opposing couch in terms of just saying like, look, it ain't that deep that what we got going on and we'll see what happens next season.

What I do think is deep as this.

I think the reason why this season was so activated.

And I was talking to a friend of mine.

Because she kept saying to me, like, what wasn't about this season of Atlanta Housewives that rattled people? And I said, because you had a best You had a set of best friends who fell out over something that yes, they went through each other, but the history of their mothers. And I said, everybody, black, White, Latino, Asian, Latina, whatever the race may be, can relate to that because we all look at ourselves and say, what would I do in that situation?

And that's why listen.

I think when it comes to YouTube Balloon and Claudia, I love the healthy conversation of what is the appropriate thing to do in these situations? And that's why for me, I don't For me, this is Carlos King speaking. I don't have the answer. I don't know what I would do. Y'all know me personally, y'all know I'm the King of grace.

Dustin knows that people try them all the time, and I find my way to reach the high road. But I also know there is a wrong road. And I just I think it's I think it's nice to say any of.

Us would do something that situation.

I just think it's so unfortunate that we do have these two women. I'm gonna say this, This is gonna sound like a fucked up thing to say, but I'm only speaking from my heart, and I'm sad to even say this because I know those girls, Shemia and Porsche will never be friends.

They will never be friends. When Porsche said.

Like Dustin said earlier, I saw her endearing eyes and I saw that there was something I could I at least appreciate it. This is my opinion that Porscha clocked it, because all four of us did. And remember from the top of this season, all four of us said, we kind of see Shania looking at Porscha away where she misses her, and we all I think, well, I'll speak for me. I thought Porscha never saw the look because she gave it nothing, no shade. But when she says she saw it in her mind, she was like, maybe we can get to that. I think, based on what I saw, they will never be friends. To me, I don't even think, guys, on some real shit, they will be cordial. I think in the knee Ney Leaks catchphrase of the door is closed, I think that bitch is bolted, padlocked,

bringing camera security guards. I think there's dogs outside. I think there's a fence. I think there's bob wire on the gate. I think these two will never ever ever see it for each other. And the reason why I feel that way is because when Andy brought up the mothers, I my mouth was on the floor. And this is me, as a producer and a host of the reunion. When Andy asked the obvious question to me as a producer and a host, Okay, well this is what happened to you.

It should be a about your mom and your daughter. I when Porsia said, I'm trying to figure out while we're bringing up my mother and my daughter, I said.

And Blue, I'm gonna start with you in that moment.

And that's why I love this topic of the show, because again I don't know what the right or wrong thing is. I will say to you, as a producer and a host, I would have done the exact same thing Andy did, which is asked the question that redefined this season.

I did not know that Andy was not.

Supposed to bring that up because we saw it on the show. But that's when I realized this shit is.

Deeper than what it is. So Blue, I want to start with you on that.

Do you You mentioned earlier that you agree with Porsche that don't bring up my mother and my daughter.

What are we doing this?

But I thought it's because it was brought in the show. Oh and the reunion is the stage to talk about it.

So Andy wasn't wrong for asking, right. I don't think Andy was wrong for asking is to your point, it was the obvious answer. Here's the thing that people need to understand. When you are someone who is incredibly high functioning strategic, takes it on the chin, has people like Kelly and so and so giving it to you, and you're like, oh, I could give it back, right. We've all talked about this in different shades, about how Portia's a vet, now she's a strategist. Now she's playing the smart game.

Right.

Claude's even mentioned that there are moments where she looks at port She's like, oh, she's playing chess while the girls are playing checkers. When you are somebody who is functioning at that level, your grace is the fact that you're a good sport because you're down for a tussle, right, people like that, And I'm saying this professionally the work that I've done. People who are that supple everywhere else have a hard line somewhere. The reason why you can tussle and do all that stuff and not cry and not take it personal because there's something that you will take incredibly personal, and there's a line you can't cross with them, and that line is finite with them. I'm on somebody like that, right, I have a line like that.

My line will always be my mother for me personally. So we just happen to have the same line, which is why I instantly understood it. There is nobody on this fucking planet, excuse my French, who can talk about my mother and ask for grace wives at any moment. After that, you're gonna have to die mad without me.

Right.

The eulogy has been said, and so it does not surprise me, she said, And I think, Carlos, you even said this. My child and my mother, those are the two things I'll do everything else in this ecosystem. I'll tussle, I'll argue. You can bring up a married man Simon the Africans. You could do whatever you want. The only two things you cannot do are polar my mother and she stood on it. So why are we being surprised.

There's nothing to be surprised about. She stood on it. Some Pece people actually mean what they say. I know there's some folks who will say something, but there's certain circumstances. Not everybody has circumcircumstances. Some people say what the hell they mean? And I think she meant that shit, which is why. And I looked at her face. I watched it twice. She didn't make any faces. It was the biggest poker forrace. She was literally still and Eddie said, you're shooting daggers at me, and she said, I don't understand why we're talking about the thing that I told you I wouldn't be talking about. Further, I respect it because I moved the same way. So whether I'm a good person or not, people know, I'll give all the

grace in the world until you hit that line. And the line is pretty deep in. You can get a lot of things off on me before we get to that line. And so it's like, because we've seen Porsha be a good support about everything else. Why are we upset about the one thing that she won't play with?

I don't get it, Claudia, what's the question the episode?

So do you is there when.

When Andy brought up the elephant in the room, which is the moment that read the this season obviously in Scotland portionshal Me the mother drama. Were you surprised by p Porsia's reaction? Was it substantiated? And do you think this show can coexist with the two of them?

I don't know, because I do think that it is over as well. I agree with you. I do think that it's over. I think they'll never you know, be friends again, and probably rightfully so. I mean I think this season, if anything exposed that maybe well not maybe they've definitely weren't the friends that they both thought they were.

And they both can make an argument for that, you know what I mean, like, well, damn I didn't know you was Damn you never had my back, Damn you was kind of bringing up conversations with girls like they both have a claim on that. It ain't one sided. They both can say some things that the others did that kind of contribute to mind of their friendship. Yeah, it's gonna be like Talls and Smalls again, I guess, which is kind of annoying, you know, but.

It's not good. I will say that.

I I didn't like it either. I felt like it was just it made it. It just felt like so negative. And then when new girls or people on the show, like, it's making people that had issues with others say, for f them, Mom's gonna jump on either just team Shmi or Team Portsche and then we just get two camps and I think that's whack. I think that's corny. I think it's took away. I think the show started off with like some legitimate grice people had that could you know, they weren't like super like bad where it's like end of the world type shit, but they were like shady things.

It just like everyone just forgot about that and they just jumped into either one of the two teams and it just it just kind of I personally don't like it. Like I'm actually glad the season's over because I don't know how much more that shit I could take, honestly, like this last and we went from the finale of the show being kind of fun, a little bit of hope of course not hope between Sami and Portsie, but they were able to be in the same room. It wasn't evil. And then for this it just felt just so yucky. It really did like I'm glad you do on that you said you do agree with me?

No, no, I'm saying I think, and Carlos are like, we mess. I think you and I walked away with the safe no offense. That's what y'all said.

We were mass.

We don't want nobody to get along.

Yeah, because I'm a clipping found that was not about me and Porsche.

That notion of me and Porsche. It was about the other people I know.

But no clip, no clip.

It want to answer, can you let me and my Claudia have our moment? Let us land the plane so Clada as I was saying, you and I, on the other hand, we walked away kind of grossed out, like this is just so negative. Can we just give it a rest already? And I agreed that. I think the episode Episode three grossed me out a little bit. Episode three was a little bit more greasier than I needed it to be because the retrospective of twenty sixteen to onward, as someone who knows how painful. Here's the thing. I'm the girl with the shtrong boundaries, but I still crying the shower. Fuck you talking about my mama, But I'm still crying the shower afterwards, I'm still you know, I would hate to see my most painful friendship breakup in

a montage that you would now ask me to talk about it. That was horrible to me. It was. I hated it. I hated it. I hated it. I hated it, and I can't imagine how hurt both Porsche and Shamia felt being put in that position. So Claudia, I'm glad it's over moving forward.

If if the mom thing is such a hard line with Porsche, which it should be, right, it should be excited to all the mothers. Okay, unless the goddamn let me die. Unless the mothers are going to be on the show and hash it out and be at the reunion, let's leave. And that means ask for everyone came a show, don't be talking about Smia's mother to MEA's mom, don't be talking about the girls, Porscha's mom. Don't call to me a dog harrying the bone, or whatever else was being said. Maybe the mothers need to just not be a part of the show, because I feel like that's what stopped them from even like moving, like repairing their friendship.

I think that, like Porscha did say, I think I saw something that there could have been she was open to it. Maybe I don't know if she really was, but I'm gonna take her at her word. And I think the mother thing from both, you know, just took it to the next level and it got ugly, right, it got very ugly. And then it's, well, you talked about my mom, will you talked about my mom too?

And yes, they're both the rights, so maybe the mom things can a they all keep the mamas out unless the mamas want to hold peaches whole little baby peaches and be on the stage. Because I think it's I think we were cheated out of them, a redemption story and all that because of some stuff with these ladies.

They're not really technically on the show like that, you know, And I hate that because imagine, like y'all became friends when y'all mama's had beef right, y'all already they already had their issue and threw it all y'all were able to power through and say let's keep my moms out of it. And then second season of a reality show together it blows up and it just puts it dead.

Any hope. Think about all the conversations they had, all the stuff they really know about each other, all the tea, all the time they lean on each other, whether they had a flowed of relationship or not, which I do think they did. But damn, that sucks. That sucks.

That's Scotland moment, Claudia.

Win, You're gonna let me go?

Oh so sorry, so sorry? Yeah, no, cuse Claudia did a great point about how there was a moment in Scotland when Portia defended Shemiah and I had a little bit of hope.

Okay, st when me and Blue and I can talk for five minutes.

If that's yeah, would you like me to repeat the question between Venus and Serena over here?

You know what I'm saying.

It is good television.

September twenty I got a point. I gotta play hell out.

Oh yeah, is that a penis?

Oh no, father, I'm so sorry. That's Prince Albert. I'm so sorry, that's Prince Albert. I'm so sorry. I'm a nasty girl. Let me mute.

I'm muting right, Blue, what's supposed to be letting him talk, Let this negro talk. Let Dustin Dunston speak. I'm meeting myself too.

I don't even remember what the fuck I'm supposed to be pontificating on Okay.

And his friendship Andy bringing up the Porscha shuting it down, Candy to coexist.

Yes they coexist, Yes they can coexist. And big Porsche not the little one.

Because when Porscha said she didn't want to talk about something, everybody fell in line. And I was fascinated by that. And I love to see people take up space like that in the spaces that they occupy. And Shemiah was subordinate to that notion, right when Porscha said, I'm not talking about this, and that Shemiah kind of just agreed.

She acquiesced, And so I think that it's telling, you know what I'm saying, Porscha is still running things over there, and hey, if they're gonna let her do it, let it. That's the way that shit go down, you know what I'm saying. And if I don't know, I agree. I think that both Claudia and Blue made great points. I think that if the right thing to do is to hand yourself with some grace and some dignity, but also you better not say nothing about my motherfucking mama or my baby if I have one, so you know, let it all play out. Now, here's the point I've really been dying to make. Right here, Oh your point running shit doesn't.

Okay because that was made understood. My thing is this.

I have been watching the Real Housewives of Atlanta since season one, episode one, which means I persevered through seasons thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen. I deserve the wholeness that season seventeen provided me when it felt to when it comes to the cast feeling solidified, when it comes to these women having two seasons with each other and now getting ready to have another season with each other jelling. I deserve that that show was all over the place for seasons thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen. Now that things finally come back together, y'all want to tell me they being too mean, They was too hard at the reunion, it was.

Too much fighting.

No, now we're finally getting real fights. No fights about well, Candy, you didn't send flowers to my sister two years ago and some shit happened, and even though I've been talking to you all this time since then, Now I'm gonna call you a hoe, and Charae's gonna agree, and y'all gonna like this. Y'all, we didn't get that. We finally got real portion. This portion in shmias. Shit is real, you know what I'm saying, And we hope to see it through to a better brighter ending for them, but at least we're getting authenticity. I've been as a person who, like I said, persevered through seasons thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen when we finally thought we were getting it again and it got interrupted again.

God damn it.

We deserve what we got in season seventeen and we needed to hold fast through to season eighteen. Now, that's all I wanted to say. Y'all can go ahead and continue making it.

I'm the fact, Thank you please.

Dustin as the yogurt after a spicy meal, I like to point out that we still have two minutes of silence.

Bloom.

No, motherfucker, No, I'm just.

No so rain jobs. Let us know the comments.

I will say this as a producer, I have never ever experience what these producers are about to experience. I have all the answers I don't have with this one. I sometimes will put myself in their shoes when I watched some.

Episodes, like what would I have done differently? Right?

I'm very close to Portia, as everyone knows, I'm close to Shamiyah.

I don't even know which.

Is why listen, I'm laughing, but dust It, it was funny.

Dust It, Guys. I gotta admit when Porscha shut that shit down, I will I love.

He was like, it's a show.

Just admit you were.

I was.

I was because I'm gonna tell you what it was for me. It was Portia looking like this.

I'm just wonder to Barby, I said, it reminds listen.

I've had a couple of girls checking me on my show. When I host reunions, they shove remain nameless. I got I got checked twice. Doesn't know who they are, and one of them I looked at, said.

No, Claudia, real life. I'm gonna say this one Destiny. Destiny tried me on Huntsville once.

My fellow taurists us uh.

Actually she pulled up blow to Claudia and and I said, here I go.

She said.

While we talking about this, I said, Destiny, I'm trying to land the plane.

She said, I hope, so I did just like this.

I'm sorry. I've seem Destiny all day. Y Alardy don't have a bias so like like Destiny, Remember.

I said, yes, I remember.

Literally I digrass.

I digrad. So anyways, I am are you okay, friend? I don't.

You still look upset about it? All?

Okay? Anyways, I don't the producers this is this is it's bad.

Is that company Carlos?

Someone just walking your house? You got distracted. I just saw that. You just you're looking over there. So yeah, you're gonna try to act like it was your dog, your dog, it was not.

Are you tapping at a man pretending it's a dog.

He's not going to act like it's a dog. After the fact that I saw he looked up. The dog is not the dog.

Yeah, he's trying to So anyways, my point is I don't ended the producers on the show this season.

It's going to be very hard. But baby, what I will say is I said what I said, and I've been saying, it's just day one, y'all got mad. Not y'all, not y'all. Oh girls, that ship down and it was like, okay, so.

Andy crossed his legs and said, so they're not control room like, you got to give it up.

You got to give it up when a motherfucker somebody like.

That, Hey baby, I have baby, listen Ninni.

The only thing Nini ever said was what did she say? Dusted? She with a black dress sees it?

Oh, She's like okay girl, damn that that was. That was when I was like, what's wrong with her?

And that's when Cynthia fried her ass and was like, well let us fall all over then you know what I'm saying?

Okay, and they echoed it. Shout out to the producers.

Okay, so I want to say the time. Okay, by the way, great season we are.

Now, can we come for us to help?

Weeks twenty twenty weeks twenty weeks blue before before we get to rate that, Peach, Claudia, myself and Dustin.

Warned you y'all hate you.

Remember we said when we recap Atlanta, Housewives is a different beast, is a different energy, The fans are different, the cast is different.

I say, it's a very different feeling so blue.

Before we get to rate that, Peach, what was your experience like recapping Atlanta Housewives on Monday Night Live.

Y'all popped my cherry. And it's been quite a while since I've been able to say that. I haven't been a version in a while. I feel very exposed. But I man, y'all, y'all undersold it. Even with the warnings, y'all under sold it the amount of times people walk up. I don't like blue, I like pink, which tickles the fuck out of me. By the way, I will say this though, doing the show with you guys has reminded me why I'm perfect for platforms like this, because I still don't give a damn. But I enjoyed it though.

But like, there's a certain level of healthy apathy you need to Dust will tell you. We've talked about this, a certain level of apathy. Even Claudia, I reposted your thinking about it today. There's a certain level of I don't give a fuck, Like I give my pants for the show and then I go out with my life.

I like confirming that I am who I thought I was when it comes to the show. And also to I like the tussles, like I like that me and Claudia can have a spicy conversation and next thing, you know, Dustin says some kumbai ash it and then Carlos gets around by portrait.

I like this show.

I like the mast like you like I'm having a good time.

Yes, yes, yes, okay. So the time has come.

As we give our report card of the peach Holders this season. Honorvery mentioned to I'm not gonna say a friend of anymore because she has a past that what should we call her?

The god mother? Yes?

I want Yeah, I want to give a shout out to Cynthia Denise Belly for being the godmother of this season and who truly has redefined the role of what it means to be a VET, a legacy housewife and coming in to play with the girls. And she has done it in a way that I really no longer want my legacy vets to be holding anything. I want them to come back to be like Cynthia Belly. So I want to give a warm shout out Yes, Cynthia Belly.

Ronava Paul and look looks the best I've ever seen at She's getting even more like she's already dropped dead gorgeous.

Even when I saw in down, I'm like, oh my god, girl, like even like she was always here and then she went I love a higher. I'm like, wow, yes, she's.

More attractive now, like I want to age like that, like I want to really is.

Yeah, I love it happy and it shows.

And just so y'all know, the Peachlight single is coming out this Friday, so make sure you guys. You can pre order it now, pre save it, pre download it, but make sure you guys get it rain Drops this Friday. Okay, August twenty eighth, make sure you guys cop the Peach Light Cynthia Belly's newest single. Okay, and when y'all do tag her so she could be posting her stories all right now, the moment has come, Laudia, Dustin and Blue for us to rate that Peach So rain Drops, we are going to rate it.

Come on, graphics, this is hilarious, this is fucking We are going.

There's eight Peach holders.

We are basing their performance, guys on personal story reads, shade, star power, and their overall performance on the show.

So we're going from eight to one.

Okay, so we all say in our eight and then we all say seven. One person go all in a row.

No, no, one person goes. We're gonna do it separately. One person goes first, then the next person.

Okay, but you.

Gotta start from eight to one, and you are allowed to state your reasons why if you want to, if you want to, so to pop this cherry of peaches.

Okay, Dustin raw, where the D is not silent?

Please?

Oh give up capital mm hmm.

Itolicized or not?

You leaning?

I'm gonna call human resources on you, Carlos.

He said, would have left.

Wait a minute, harassment for my friend here, my club. Enough, he's a brain brain being a little bit, he's a person. Why are we just setasizing him? Dick man from New York?

Oh?

Is that that is what I've heard?

Yeah, that's allegedly allegedly allegedly.

No, he said it wasn't allegend the last feelings you guys, allegedly?

Okay, come on, sound the fact now, Dustin kick things off starting with number eight.

Yes, So okay, here's my list.

I'm gonna keep this ship short and sweet because it's nine twenty seven and I'm ready to go.

So here's the thing.

Right, and I love it here and I would rather be nowhere else, right, But we've been here, So.

Here's my list.

I'm just gonna give you the rankings and offer a brief explanation and then pass it to my sisters and my brother. Number eight is a tie for me. I could not decide between the two, so number eight is a tie between Phaedra and ky Michelle. They tied for the number eight spot in my book, I thought that both ladies had great performances on the reunion stage. I enjoy both ladies on the reunion stage, but that is where it stopped for me. I feel like they kind of fell short during the season, and I think they both had potential to do really amazing things that would connect them with the audience in new ways and both of their case scenarios, but we didn't get that. I'm hoping that we do get it next year. I was, however,

pleased with both ladies on the reunion, So number eight is a tie for me between Phaedra and k Michelle. Coming in the number six spot for me is who Angela Oakley? Love her to death. I think that she is one of the new Marquee housewives of Real Housewives of Atlanta. I think she's necessary. I think that she fell short this season, and I think that her mistake took up too much space in the season. In her personal straight overshadowed all the other things that she could have been talking about, and I didn't like seeing my girl scrambling like that. I still think she's an incredible housewife.

It was a rookie mistake, sophomore mistake, but it just took up too much space of the season. It distracted me from her for the season. So she's number six. Number five Pinky, motherfucking call. Pinky added comic relief to this season in a way that I didn't even realize was necessary.

But I'm so grateful for Pinky. Don't give a fuck.

She says what's on her mind. She laughs, un scene, she doesn't care in a way that is she's just She doesn't take herself too seriously, and it feels good amongst a lot of serious issues going around.

So I love Pinky. I think that she's a perfect fit for number five.

Number four, I have Drew Sodora, who I feel like coasted this season, really but coasted in a way where she was self assured Drew has been here since season thirteen. This is now season seventeen, so this was her fifth season as a housewife, and I think that it shows Drew knows the confessional space now.

A lot better.

Her interviews are some of her best moments, and even in scenes she speaks up, but it's still composed in a way that was interesting to watch for me.

Number three Shemiah. I love Shamiah on this show.

I still think that there are great things in Shemiah's future as as a part.

Of this cast.

Shemiah had a tough season and I think she fell short when it came to her response to things and the way that she shows up. I think that an example of that would be what she did on the reunion stage when Andy would ask Portia a question or Angela a question and they would say something that was blatantly their take, and Shemiah would go, well, I mean, actually I agree too.

I don't want it to happen.

I just feel like instead of just being like no, I don't like her because she fucking did this to me and this is why I fucking feel like that.

And Shemiah needs to take up.

She needs to own her space more in a way that reflects what we saw in the first episode from season sixteen. Rewatch that. Find your power and show up stronger in that way. It's not just about cussing somebody out or having a smoking gun of information. It's about prowess and I want to see Shemiah kind of rain over these girls in that way. Number two the biggest Kelly you know what I'm saying. I'm sorry. Kelly Potter is a wonderful new addition to the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Kelly don't give a fuck about what she says to anyone, and it's not in a way that's reckless. It's in a way that's audacious, you know what I'm saying, And in a way that's bold, and it's like, I can't believe she said that, But it's what you need on this show.

Everybody always says if.

It doesn't have any drama, you guys aren't gonna pay attention to it. Y'all, don't watch the shows that don't have drama in Kelly is willing to go to and cross a line that is necessary to make an ensemble cast show like this interesting.

Whether you like her or not.

You need a firestarter, and she lit that fire off season and she's gonna do it again next season. I love what Kelly brings to the show and I appreciate her on it. Number one for me, big dog Porsche, it is what it is. Porsia did a great job leading this cast of ladies this season. She ushered the new ladies in, She got in the paint when she needed to. She was honest about the lesbian shit, and I love that for her that she reached that point where she could be forthcoming about that, and I feel like it neutralized a lot of people who would have used that in some way against her. So I appreciated her performance as the leader of the cast. And what sealed the deal for me having the number one spot

was Porscha sitting on their reunion stage with them legs crossed arm over that left leg, and she looked at Andy and said, I'm not talking about my mother and I'm not talking about my daughter, and everybody fell in line, and that was it. You know, there was an opportunity for the other ladies to be like, well.

She might not be, but I am.

I didn't appreciate what dad, you know what I'm saying, And they didn't do that, and I think that reflects leadership hardly what you want that. This does not mean that I, you know, have agreed with everything that these ladies have done, and that is why I ranked them that way. It's just my real reflections and shout out to the og of LG's Cynthia Bailey, who I love on a personal level.

So that's that for me.

All right, Wow, Okay, that was Dustin Raths.

Up next we have the beautiful blue centric blue Centric rate your rate that pache starting from number eight.

So my metrics were like your what y'all know? I like me a linstunny metropole. Virgo loves this. So I also added emotional regulation to my list of the metrics you gave, like who was ten toes down? Y'all know how I feel about say that shit or don't say that shit. So for number eight, like Dustin, I was shocked.

I thought I was gonna be provocative. I have Fadriak Michelle tied for number eight because how you show up the last day of work and want to tussle? But it was it was a good last day of work, right, So I think because they missed fifteen episodes of work they have to be just as far as docking their pay.

I also think too, that they're the ones that I'm feeling like they know they're behind. I think Fader and k Michelle Loki agreed because cam Michelle alluded several times, well I finally understand the show now, like she's like, oh, I finally got it. Yes, the show is over, baby, it was. It's over. So came a show and and Fader just because you know, I have to dock your pay. Actually, number six for me is drew S Door because her only storyline was Ca Michelle on a horse, and so I didn't know what to do with that.

A horse, Claudia, Oh yes, a horse, where's the sound effects?

It was the horse, and the thing is I like Drew. I liked Drew a lot. Wait, not the horse. I actually personally liked Drew a lot, and I love the points that were made about how she finally hit is like gotten into her groove. But there was a much storyline for me there aside from a horse and a man on a phone. So because of that, she had to be number eight. Number fourth actually for me is a tie.

Wait wait wait wait, that was.

Because there's ties. There's two ties. Yeah, so eight is shared between a Phaedria and k Michelle. Six is drew by herself because the seven would have been from one of the other two and four is a tie between Angela and Pinky because they're like oscillating fans. Sometimes it's hot and amazing and like, girl, what you're talking about?

And the fan just kept on going. Sometimes I was clapping for them, other times I know what the hell they were talking about. When the fan was on, it was dope. When it wasn't, I was like, we could have just kipped that scene. That could have been an email. So because of all the cameos and the bad reads and the inspector gadgets and the whoever else did a man give you a check for touching your booty? It was all weird, all the question marks right, but when it worked, it really worked. So because they were both hit or missed for me, I either loved them or didn't care. They both got them before as a tie.

Number three is Shomia because I did put an emotional regulation. Shamia has to be in the top three for anybody who's paid attention because Shamilla was a lot of people's storylines.

We have to give.

Her her her. I say, tens on twenties, twenties on sixties. I don't know, y'lad do the math. But Shamillah was ten on twenty.

Please don't mess saying I worked on it.

Ten on twenty. Okay, you're really you going to the drugs for that? Anyways, I don't remember Dustin having all these sound effects. No, but Shamiah was a top three. In fact, what's interesting is had Shamia been more audacious, it would have been a two, right, But the lack of audacity, I had to take some points off, even though Shemia, honestly, I hope you understand that whether you feel seen or not, because I do know that emotional and she wants to feel seen and understood. Your relevancy is undeniable at this point. Nobody ever in life can ever call you irrelevant. You were very much the storyline this season. Now. Number two is fascinating for me because I was watching the show with some people that I

was working with, and I was like, Kelly, don't give a fuck, and they both said, Louie, you don't give a fuck.

Me.

It's just the fuck, not me being a Kelly of money and not live. So because I'm not a hypocrite, because just show up knocking it over, like hey, I'm here, bitch. So because I'm not a hypocrite, I do have to give Kelly number two. The girl worked for every every dollar she made, she worked for her money. And number one has to be Malcolm X. I mean Porsche, who who's just put a hand up and everybody turned. I ain't never seen no shit like that on reality TV and my goddamn wife. The last time I saw that was Denzel on Malcolm X. Okay, I ain't never seen a rhythm. Nation ain't got shit on Porsche. My god today, my brother, I'm an audacious bitch. Even I was like, maybe I would have shut the fuck up too if

I would sit on that couch. I nini shaded so Porscha could blank stare. Okay, So love her or loathe her, we are not haters. Bitch kiss the ring, I guess or not, but either way, you you don't one wearing it. So I gotta give her. And the funny thing is me from two years ago, who was mad about her, and Simon would be shocked to hear me say this, But to Claudia's porn. We gotta give people our credit, whether we fuck with them or not. So Porsche, I think it's pretty undeniable that you are that shit. And I think even Andy knows her at this point. And that is my list.

Okay, thank you Blue. Up next we have Claudia Jordan's list. Claudia Jordan's starting with number eight.

I agree with a lot of this stuff the rankings towards the end, and I'm glad that we are all on the same page. I have Fader in the number eight spot. I think this is the best she's looked though in her confessionals. I love a lot of her outfits. And I wasn't a Phaser fan. Well I'm not a favor fan, let's be real, but I think she was.

We were all waiting for fad of yesteryear when she's with the Ogs, and I think the bar is severely lowered. I'm gonna get to more of that in my rankings. The bar is lower now because the amazing OG's, the ones that were on the Mount Rushmore are not there. So now we're impressed by things that would not be a big deal back in the day. So Phedra I'm like, yo, where's that phaser that could like, you know, gave that that read to Kenya that she wrote down like you know even now, like we didn't get that, but she did look good and I did like that she helped out Kelly. I thought that was seeing a charitable side of her. I like that. Number seven I got ky Michelle because she was only active for two episodes, And

I'd be damned if I put someone in the top five, top six if you only work for two episodes. Now, when you did show up, you were really unpredictable. I didn't know what we're gonna get, Like, oh, you're gonna be up, you're gonna be down. We don't know what personality gonna get. But what's frustrating with someone like that is, damn you have it, but you chose to not give it for like fifteen episodes. So I just think there is room for growth there. I give number six to Pinky only because I felt she came off one dimensional in the show when we do know, as Dustin said, she is funny, she is smart, she got her husband that loves her, that's rich. She's an actual housewife, something that is very rare on this franchise. There's hardly any

wives left. She's a wife with a bomb ass husband for what we know, and we didn't get to really see enough of that. You know, it's I think it was like what was episode three four when they finally sat down, We like, I want to see more of that. So I do think there's like a lot of room for growth. And now that we know that there's a baby on board or two or three, you know, I'm we do know that next season. I'm just playing, y'all just kidding that we do know. Like next season, I hope we see more of her family and not just about business like business. Okay, that's cute. I'm gonna give I went back and forth with four and five. I was kind of switching them. I think we're on similar pages.

I give number five to Droll. I wanted Drew to be in the top three. You know, I was going so hard for her early on the season because I loved that she was like she came in more relaxed, best she's ever looked. I love that she got the spirit of of of Ralph off her back and out of her basement things when moving forward, like she was like boulder of the season. She didn't let people like playing her face like like like nothing that she really did before. But she really was like and she also I like when she's getting attacked, she don't get like mad Rara, she gets she keeps a smirk and she I like how controlled she is of her emotions and she gives like a little she's she keeps, she keeps the composure, and I like a girl that does that.

But once she did become a go naked hair model, I think that was the end of her storyline. We didn't really get anything forward after that, and I do think that things change, and it became I didn't like her just going from like kind of being so strong coming out the gate so strong, to just simply kind of just kind of like her and Shamia the whole.

It just became I think Drew's so much better than that role. I think she's just I just think she's better than that, you know. I got to give number four to Angela because her reades. Of course, Alito, she's smart. I think she looked amazing. I think her body is just such tea. I think the reads about our feet are stupid and dumb and very low brow. I do like that. Listen, say it. What was you wonta about? Angelauily?

But whose man was at almost every scene that was required her supporting and they all the smoke that people have about her relationship, he was there. I think they have a different type of relationship that people aren't used to seeing how they talk to each other. But when it counted, he was there. He was there. She also was open and you know, shared stuff about her daughter and all of that, and I thought that was great.

Once again, though I think she got caught in her well I won't say lies, but it kind of went left for her and things changed towards the end of the season for me, where I was like, she came out the gate so strong and I kind of fizzled towards the end. And once again, she also started kind of doing the dirty work over there for you know that couch. I'll say that y'all gonna be y'all not gonna agree with this, and I don't. It's okay. I'm giving portion number three. And this is why I do like this.

She was vulnerable.

I love to meet the best part she showed vulnerability with Dennis, Like I hate when girls act like I'm not bothered. I'm unbothered. We're humans, We're supposed to be bothered by things that really impacted us, and I would love to see more of that. I think that's like a complex kind of relationship. She showed us a new love interest, but she did get the girls to do her dirty work, and I did not like that. I would have liked it. It would have been more like, hey man, I got this. This ain't this I got this because if you you know Ogi, you're the lot, You're the og there. So I didn't like a lot of that, And I feel like a lot of the heavy lifting was done by the minions, like the girls I became, I don't want to say minions, but done

by people that were supporting her. And I just feel like Portia is too much of a veteran. She don't even know when to do her dirty work. She knows exactly, she knows how she got this. I'm giving Shemiah number two because everyone made her their goddamn storyline, and if they didn't do that, Shemia would have ranked lower because she's not good at responding. She's not good in the moment.

She's really not And I do think because she's authentic and she's not doing a reality show on her mind. She's like, this is how she really feels. She's gonna stutter. She's gonna stumble because she's emotional, and he she who controls their emotions will always win. A readoff will always win because you're in control. She's not there yet. And again I give her number two because every it was Shamiah, Shamiah, Shamiyah.

I got sick of haired about Samia. Honestly, it was a lot, and they were dead ass wrongs for not having her in that first year with all the goddamn storylines and conversations around Shamir. And I'm giving Kelly number one because of this. She showed the most vulnerability to me. She talked about embarrassing and stuff. She showed up with a T shirt to her to her a green screen, and as much as we want to like clown it, it was trending. She also was cool to apologize the people.

She showed she's willing to make up with people. I feel like some of the beasts would not even be there if she wasn't so close to Shamiya. I think the girls really do rock with with Kelly. I like that she shows growth. She showed us a new relationship. She also has the right amount of delusion to give her top dog in my e spirit, in my opinion, and I don't think she does the dirty work of others like she was friends with Shamiah. But I don't feel like she was doing Shamidia and she wasn't doing her bidding. I think she wasn't, So that's my opinion.

I know I'm gonna get dragged tomorrow, but guess what, y'all, I'll be in Dallas eating crab legs. I won't watch her tomorrow.

Crab legs.

Okay, Claudia jord all right, I will keep it short and simple. I want to re it a rate.

This list is based upon the elements I said at the top of the show, personal story, drama, shade, read, overall performance. Okay, this is my list. Number eight Phaedra. The what I will say is Faedra has a lot of potential and I need Faedra to get back in her bag. She has it in her. We saw that this reunion. She looked gorgeous. The reads were reading the shade was shading I as a producer and a viewer.

I'm never going to reward anybody who uses a lifeline s sos Rihanna Okay to save their job at the reunion.

I'm not impressed.

I'm not. I'm not.

I don't think it's fair to these other women to see somebody coast for eighteen seventeen episodes or sixteen I'm sorry, sixteen episodes.

And then all of a sudden delivered at the reunion.

And as a producer, what I will say is, those girls are watching that and they're saying to themselves, why is she getting away with it?

But y'all want me to give my husband my third.

Kid, you know their kids kids. I gotta do all that and she gets to do nothing. So I would say phage number eight for that reason. Number seven this is hard, but I got to be very honest. Seven is Drew Boom. The reason why Drew is number seven is because Drew, this is your fifth season.

Damn.

I expect more from you. Drew.

This was your first season without Ralph, and.

You show us that. And JU knows I love her and I love her album, but I gotta be fair, Drew. Disclaimer, Please, I expect more from you, Drew. I expect more from you.

This was your first season without your estranged husband, and I expected more from you and you under delivered.

You are five seasons in.

I expect more from a five season girl, like I expect more from a vet. Okay, I'm not impressed by horses. I'm not impressed by day with open leather jackets, diamond chains and hookahs. I'm not impressed. We need more from you, Drew. You haven't in you. You are one of the most beautiful women on Bravo and you know how to read.

This season was not your best. You are number seven. Number six goes to kay Michelle. The reason why ky Michelle has one up on Drew is because I will give kaymans sh grace. This is her first season, and I will applaud Ca Michelle for contacting the producers when she had the butt lee and allow the cameras to be there. She didn't hide it from the production, she did not talk about it afterwards.

She called production and said this happened to me. Follow me. That's a star. Okay.

I will also give came to show number six because she delivered at the reunion again, but again we don't give extra credit for that, but I see potential in her base on the fact that in Dallas, although I would have wanted her to really expose what happened, I was enjoying her and Drew's situation in that moment. I appreciate the fact that we got her husband. I appreciate the fact that we got her work story, and I appreciate the fact that we got her and Porsche and her and the girls to have their things okay. To shows number six, number five, I would give the Pinky look.

Pinky has tremendous potential on this show. Tremendous. Pinky is smart, she stands up for herself.

I don't know too many pregnant women that can go total tote pfectual parks, and I was impressed with her.

I was also listen.

I know I give Pink a hard time giving me one thousand and one not Dalmatians, but business stories. And I will say the reason why she gets number five at least she tried. At least she tried this season to give us something.

Was it too much extra credit?

Yes, but I appreciate that she definitely said I'm gonna get y'all this and that, and y'all can pick and choose which one you want. She gave us Derek. She was open and honest by her bankruptcy. She went tell to Teba Angela Oakley. Okay, Pinky impressed me.

She really did. She really did. Pinky. In my opinion of all the girls.

I think Pinky has the greatest potential to Candy Buris this thing and I am. I'm rooting for you, Pinky, I'm ringing for you. Number four goes to Angela Oakley. The reason why Angela and Angela and Pinky was back and forth and me.

But the reason why Angela.

Got extra point over Pinky is because Angela's story with her daughter and the honesty that Amari gave to us, I thought was rich. We don't see too many black mothers and their black daughter who come out as lesbian, marrying somebody and having that open dialogue and being so open and honest about it, going to therapy as well.

We don't see a lot of that with black mothers.

We I feel like, when it comes to media, we've seen black mothers deal what they gave black son, right, We've seen that. But to see her deal with her daughter who got married and then to understand what that felt like for her, I thought was great. Listen, Angela definitely got into it a lot with some of these women that I felt was unwarranted, but she delivered, meaning she was able to go toe to toe. She was able to go toe to toe with Shamiyah, with Pinky, and she allowed herself to be a president. And like Claudia said, we got Charles Oakley and we were able to really see him show off for her too.

So she's number.

Four, my top three. Okay, this was also hard. I'm going to give Kelly number three. Okay, the reason why I will give Kelly number three. First of all, kelly sophomore season impressed me, and I haven't been impressed with a sophomore season since Candice Diller Bassett second season Homemakers. Okay, Canda's first season. I remember being like Kndace second season.

I called the producers, I said.

I'm a candy gal. Okay, Candace second season.

Needs to go into history books. So does Kelly. Kelly Potter has impressed me so much. Yes, she is present, she's likable, she's delulu in the best way possible.

She's also very honest.

I mean the fact that this woman bled with her bankruptcy, with dealing with her ex husband, the fact that this woman could not film with her children and was still able to be.

Alive this season to have a presence.

That's IMPRESSEDI uve so all of you girls, you got boyfriends, secret girlfriends in the basement allegedly, you know these off limits. Nothing was off limits with Kelly Potter, and I will give her this.

You are the one to look out for. You are a sleeper hit.

You are a sleeper hit, and my darling, you deserve all the flowers that's come your direction as long as you stay the course.

Okay. Number two goes to Shemiah.

The reason why Shemiah's number two, I'm gonna I'm gonna say the first the last point.

First, what would this season be without Shamiyah?

Agreed?

Sorry, love her or hate her?

I am somebody that have the pleasure of working with Kenya Moore, a polarizing figure.

Where you are you either love Kenya or you hated her?

Shamiah Moore and is that same person you have a love Shamia or you hate her?

There's no one.

Between Shemiah's honesty about dealing with the embryo, dealing with Jerald, dealing with her best friend, and her not getting along navigating these relationship with these girls.

She was everybody's storyline. Samia did all of that and didn't I have to knock right she was.

She was able to to find her footing and yeh, she feil she got back up. She felt she got back up, but she was still standing looking gorgeous and porcelain as ever.

Yes, Tomiya is.

An extremely attractive woman with a with a lifestyle that is to be envied. And I love the fact that she has not allowed this show to break up her marriage and the fact that I have seen Shemia love her hate her.

Who she was last season to me was a lap dog. This season she wasn't. And and I'm all about an improvement.

Samiah gets my Most Improved award because at the end of the day, she was the main bitch.

We were talking about. And I mean that kindly. Shamia's that girl all.

Samia's interview is the highest rated of the girls this season. So and so my point is saying that is only to say love her or hate her. Y'all was watching it, y'all watch her. Tomia's that girl, and you you happen to give the girl her flowers? Okay, Number shocker. Okay, number one Honestly, all jokes aside. Number one goes to Portia because and this is not going to be something that I know people are going to enjoy hearing. And I understand the way of this comment. This show belongs to Portia, and I know it's an ensemble show. I have said this publicly when I interview Quad years ago a couple of years ago, that every once in a while on an ensemble, on a female ensemble show, someone emerges as the as as the mainstay, as the face

of the program. And love Porschow Hey Porsche. There is no show without Porsche.

And and I know that's that's that's that's a tough thing to say.

But hear me out when I say that, I'm not saying that Porscha leaves the shows did. I'm not saying that. So let's be clear. When I say there's no show without Porsche, I mean episodes. Porsche gave us a coming out story. I'm a big Kyle Richards fan, and I'm not here to label Kyle Richards, but what I am to say is that.

Kyle decided to do something her way, and I respect it.

Porsche came out the gate and said, this is what's going on with me, And she did it in a way that I felt wasn't exploiting sexuality.

She did in a way that I appreciated her journey.

I appreciated the honesty with her and Dennis, how she broke down and cried when he gave her the ring and we were able to see what.

Was going on.

Porsche shall also you could love her hate her even when her and Shamia were not at the best. Porsche proved this is her show by inviting Shemia to her home, even when they were at odds.

She said, come over.

And when they and when the girls tried to poke and prod at at their friendship, Porsche shut it down.

And so we're not doing that.

Porsche is somebody that I will go on records saying.

She's just Porscha has this.

Personality and the star power that makes the other girls fall in line. And I'm not saying their followers before I'll say that, and I love all the girls. What I'm saying as I'm watching this show, Porsche.

I remember doing.

Season six a lont of Housewise when we went to Savannah and I said this public I'll said again it was Nini Least had this energy.

And Claudia you can speak to if you want to. I don't when you're around Niini.

Nini has this energy where you kind of just fell in line, like it was not that you were a follower, but she controlled the energy in the room.

I didn't notice.

Okay, that was season seven for you. But Porscha owns the energy she's in.

And Porsche has this special quality where she's funny.

She plays on the dizziness.

Yeah, but she can.

Beat a bitch ass okay, and you are afraid of her, okay. And and Porscha doesn't mind dancing in the mud with you. And Porsche appreciates a good opponent. She was raised by Nini Leagus. Okay, Porscha and Kenya Moore will always have the best battle in the history of the franchise. So Porsche appreciates of Kelly, like doesn't said when she said this goes to hell, Kelly said.

Good, I got my horns on.

Let's go this And last, but not least, Porsche has this power because I have never ever seen anybody state emphatically we're not talking about this, and everyone said, so we'll be having for lunch, were having dinner after this. Are we gonna go and do that? We're gonna brap this show up. Okay, so we Yeah, Porsche's that girl.

Love her, hate her? She is that girl. And that's my list.

Good job, y'all.

Yah yeah, okay, I generally agreed on who's like in the bottom of the middle of the top.

Yeah, it was.

It was interesting, So rain drops, let us know the comments. Rate your eight to one, let us know your thoughts. Okay. But last, but not least, I want to give a big shout out to the producers of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Okay, excellent job. Shout out to Lorraine, Lauren, everybody involved. I don't know, everybody.

Joy everything.

That's going.

Andy should have us on watch happen.

Seriously, we should.

We should be Bartennis with Dustin as much as we be, uh you know, part of the We're like the the fifth producers here. Honestly, well be you were mentioned in all three episodes Carls have been keeping count.

You were mentioned in all three episodes of the reunion. I know you knew.

I mean, it's been flattering. It's been flattering.

So shout out to the producers the Bravo executives who overceives the show, the cast and crew. Thank you peach holders, excellent season seventeen and we're looking forward to recapping season eighteen.

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