Vicki goes LA QUINTA-CRAZY! | RHOC Recap with Alexis Janssen

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So, Raindrops, one of the reasons why I keep telling you all, you have to subscribe to my YouTube channel at vcarlosking underscore because Alexis is under.

The weather and we're both wearing masks.

Of course, look.

Hers is black. Mine is white.

Well, I just had to match my outfit. I have a black and a blue and every face mask color, but I had to match my outfit. We have to follow the rules, social distancing, six feet apart, make sure we have our mask on. You know, you don't want to get my cold.

So she's on the weather, so we're wearing masks because at this rate, who the fuck knows if it's going to come through the screen. So listen, your favorite Ebony and Ivory duo is back.

What if I would have had white on today, then what would we do?

I know, but you know, listen, it makes sense. And that's why I love doing this with you. So are you, listen, are you okay? Is it, do you feel sick or just like, you know, stuffed.

Well, I almost canceled this morning when I first woke up because I was feeling that poopy, but I don't have a fever. So I did spring cleaning and my house will fall cleaning. And so all the dust came into my, you know, I was sneezing like crazy and my house looks amazing, by the way, but it's like, I thought it was just that. And then it just hasn't gone away. So either that caused something or I just caught going around town, but I'm good. No fever.

I started a Z-Pack today. Just a lot of, you know, a lot of gunk and sore throat. I sound, I sound, my, my voice is an octave deeper today.

Well, listen, you look good. You sound good.

And, um, you're having a better day than Vicky did in her Santa Barbara home. I can tell you that much.

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Where do we even start with that?

Okay.

I mean, listen, we have to save the best for last because let me tell you something.

Have you ever seen Blair Witch Project?

No.

Okay.

I'm trying to think.

Name your favorite.

I remember Blair from Save Your Life, or whatever that show was, like when you would watch the shows back when.

You're talking about the show with Tootie, Facts of Life?

Yeah, and Blair.

And so I was like, Blair?

Yeah, I know.

I know Blair from that show.

Alexis!

But then I'm like, nope, that's not Blair Witch. I don't know that one.

Alexis, I'm not talking about Blair from Facts of Life, okay?

No.

Facts of Life, yes! No, so. I'm talking about Blair Witch Project, which is a horror movie.

And remind me to tell you why when we get to what happened at the end of this episode.

But let me tell you something.

The ending of OC, this episode, episode 10, was straight out of a horror movie. I was literally, literally, Alexis, like, am I supposed to be watching this?

What is about to.

It was so.

Buddy, so Raindrops. Stay tuned. We're going to get to that in a second. Go ahead, Alexis.

No, I was just, we'll get to it.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. All right. So listen, the OC ladies.

Are going on a little staycation trip. They're in the state of California. So they're driving to Vicky's. Is this her third home?

Okay.

Yeah, it's three. Okay.

Rancho Mirage, and then the one in Mexico. I can't think of it right now. My brain is foggy. And then her OC house in Cotto.

Yeah.

There you go.

So Vicky has invited the girls to her Santa Barbara home.

So what we see are two separate vehicles, okay?

Honey, honey, it's not Santa Barbara. It's Rancho Mirage in Palm Desert. It's Rancho Mirage in Palm Desert.

Why am I saying Santa Barbara?

I don't know, that's way far north. You're like three hours off.

Wait.

Oh, because the girls, the other girls go to Santinez to Solvang, which is up north closer to the Santa Barbara.

Okay, I'm like, wait.

That's the two. One went to Rancho Mirage and one went to Solvang.

Thank you. Okay, shit. Now I get it. I'm like, did I make this up out of thin air? Okay, fine.

So we have Tamara, Carmela, and Gina- in the car, and before they.

Pick up Heather, two things are happening.

But the first thing that's happening, honey, is Carmella is injecting herself with insulin because of the.

Honey.

I don't have diabetes, so I don't know. I cannot make a comment on this.

No, but no, it's serious. I.

No, when people have diabetes, insulin intake is real. And if you don't take it when you're supposed to, it can cause harm. So I love the fact that she's doing it. But what was so interesting to me though, when she talked about the anxiety she gets and it's the reason why she has to do it because she doesn't, things would happen to her body. So it does sound to me like, Being on a reality show, I'm curious how that's going to work out for her because being a housewife alone, anxiety, I feel like you have anxiety the moment you're on set. The moment the audio person puts a microphone on your back, I feel like the anxiety levels raises. So I'm curious how she's going to survive being a housewife.

If the glucose gets triggered so easily.

Well, she has a lot of those pens in her purse because she pulls them out and just shoots it, you know, whenever she needs it. So that's the good thing. It's like an EpiPen, you know, if someone's allergic to bees or whatever, but peanuts. But I think she's handled it so well, though, Carlos. Like there's been so many times.

I didn't even think this one was very stressful for her to have to be like, you know. But I think that the other time she's been at a table and all of them are on her. I feel like, why didn't she pull out the pin then and shoot it? You know, but I don't know. It's, she gets stressed out when I wouldn't even, I wouldn't have been stressed out.

But also I agree with Tamara about the whole, like, don't come to my house and then have to curl your hair. Why didn't you do that while you were at home? What, what is the difference between doing it and being 10 minutes later to Tamara's or getting to Tamara's and doing it at Tamara's? You're still 10 minutes late.

Either way you slice it. Like, I don't, I was like, I was kind of perplexed. Thank God she did not ruin her Louis Vuitton shoe in the freaking drain.

Oh, my God.

That is the worst thing. It's so irritating. And the shoe guy can't fix that scuff. So then you've got this, you know, $ 1, 400 pair of shoes and you just ruined it by stepping in a grate.

That actually raises a good question. Are you less mad At someone. Because I have an answer. I can't wait to hear yours. Are you less mad at a person that is running late because they're at their house curling their hair and they're late for that reason? Or are you more upset when they come to your house, they're still late, but they have to curl their hair?

Which one is worse?

No two doubts about it. The latter. I do not want them coming to my house to curl their hair. Bitch, stay home. And get your dreads put in or do whatever you need to do. And then get your lip liner on and then show up at my house. Put your contacts in. Take your EpiPen. And then come to my house. I mean, it's like, oh, by the way, we're going on a trip together. Now let me go up and put all my crap in your bathroom and be in your personal space. I don't even want people in my bathroom.

Sorry.

My master bathroom and my master bedroom are off limits. Okay. Anyone can go anywhere else in the house. There's four other bedrooms, plenty other bathrooms. Go to one of the kids' bathrooms. I don't care. Stay out of my room. Period. Yep. I'm with you.

I think master bathrooms and bedrooms are totally off limit. Like those are our living areas that I'm just sort of like, this is my personal space.

So I agree with you. I would rather you say, hey, I'm late. I'm curling my hair. I'll be there in a second. I got you.

Because the moment you're here, I'm standing outside the door and I'm like, I'm hopping in the car and let's drive off.

I also want to play devil's advocate. There have been times when I was filming that they would tell me to arrive at, let's just say 220. Okay. Get to the house at 220. And I would get at the house at 220 or 219 or 215. And then they would put a hold on me and I wasn't able to go in scene. So maybe Carmela was. there early enough to curl her hair and they were holding her and you never know. You just don't know.

Okay.

And you know that happens, Carlos. As a producer, you have to be honest. You know that happens.

That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true.

Because we do sometimes delay talent because of arrivals holding them up to put a microphone on them.

So to your point, that is true. So I just.

Wanted to be devil's advocate because I've always liked Carmella and I think she's very real and legit. And I'm like, well, you know what? Maybe she was. really there early enough to get her hair curled and still be really on time for everyone. And we just don't know.

I mean, she's not. No, that's true.

She's not going to, Tamara, they wouldn't let me come. They were holding me back there. All the, you know, they're not, she's not going.

To say that. And we do love her.

So as they're driving, the topic of Heather comes up again, right? Because Tamara and Gina, by the way, I love, and I, I thought, Tamara and Jen after the first and second episode was going to be my dynamic duo. I like Tamara and Gina together.

Wait, wait, wait.

Back up. Slow, folly break.

You were excited to see who together?

Tamara and Jen.

Tamara and Jen. Okay, yeah, because they finally made up. Okay.

Yeah, so remember the first two episodes? They were like, yeah.

And Jen was on Watch What Happens and even said she'd rather been on Tamara's trip, so they still are good, just so you know. I heard it with my own ears last night on Watch What Happens Live. So, okay.

Good for you, Jen. You are on the right team, honey. Now. No, go ahead.

And now you're excited to see who together?

Tamra and Gina. And here's why. Oh, baby.

They were funny.

Oh, not only were they funny, they were shit starters. And I love it. They were starting. Listen, they were starting the pot.

Okay. What if we.

Would have ran over that bag?

Chanel down.

Chanel man down.

Alexis, we should do our podcast later.

You are on fire, Alexis.

Well, you have no idea what I've done today. First of all, I'm on Sudafed and a Z-Pak and my. I had only a quarter thing because I can't taste anything. So I'm not even drinking my poppy drink. But I've I've ran my stairs 75 times. I've cleaned and organized. You have no idea. So, yeah, you you didn't get tired, Lex.

Got drugged up on Sudafed, Lex. Lemon water.

It's good. You do it good. I love it.

Got it. And honey for the throat.

So the thing is, they are pretty much talking to Carmella like, look, how do you feel about what Heather said? And Carmella's like, look, I did find it strange because I don't know the timing in which she was texting me, how much she enjoys me, hanging out with me, all those things. But I don't know if she did that because it's sincere or because she, you.

Know, found out that you guys were going to tell me what she said.

She got caught, is the other side of the coin.

She got caught, exactly.

Tamra and Gina feel like the bitch said it because she got caught. And Carmella is 50-50 on it. Carmella's 50-50. Gina and Tamra are 100% that she got caught.

What does Alexis Jansen think?

A million percent because she got caught. That would never have, it would never have made light of day had it not come out on camera by other housewives that that was said by Heather. She then knew, oh shit, I gotta, you know, her, her, she, she puckered her tush a little bit and was like, oh shit, you know, pucker up a little bit. I've got to go, I've got to go own it now. And that's, what do you think, Carlos?

I mean, duh. Cause.

You think, you don't think Heather would have owned it if she hadn't, she never would have come and said it on her own without being caught.

I think it's in Heather's character to talk shit about people behind their backs. I think she's been doing it since she was five years old playing with Barbie dolls, and that's just who she is.

Okay, well, that's really low.

What? I think that's who she is.

So you think her mom didn't correct her and say, now, Heather Sue, that's not right?

I think her mom was doing it with her. Have you met her mom?

My mom would have put soap in my mouth if I was acting to people.

When I saw Heather's mother, I said, I get everything now.

I get it. Heather's mother.

Not only is she stunning to look at, she's a gorgeous woman. Her sophistication and temperament, I'm like, oh, wow. This is where Heather, Heather, Heather Dubrow is her mother. That's, that's what it is.

So I definitely think she was raised to talk shit.

I mean, that's what some people, not all, that's what some people do in high society.

So in the words of Lady Gaga, she was born this way. Okay. Okay.

If you hear it in utero, then yeah, it kind of sticks.

Just say it. Just say it.

I don't know. I'd like to think that that didn't happen, but okay. We'll let you.

We'll see. Look, when Heather comes to my podcast for an exclusive one-on-one interview. Never. I'll ask. Never.

You could not even pay her a million dollars for her to come on your podcast after everything you've said. You've screwed that relationship, honey.

Or lack thereof. You have to have a relationship to screw it.

But Heather, I would like to go on record saying the Raindrops can attest and so can Alexis. I've actually had your back a lot this season that I haven't.

So listen, it's been balanced. It's been balanced. Okay.

Okay. Definitely not like this anymore.

It's not this anymore. It's kind of this, you know?

So in this case, I am on Tamra and Gina's side that she did it because she got caught. And like Tamara said, a professional, Heather is known to talk shit behind their backs and how she doesn't own it until she's.

Confronted by it. Tamara knows it more than I do. So if Tamara says it, I believe it.

Agreed. Okay.

So, okay. Where are you going?

Well, I have a question since we're on this, since we were, Tamara and Gina were in their golf cart and then they had the later or in their little bike thing. And then they went to dinner and then, What do you feel about the whole real estate thing? Or does Carlos lie? Because watching live, Andy Cohen did a poll. I want to see what you think. Should Heather have used Gina is the question. I'm not going to tell you the poll.

Okay. Here's my thoughts. I am actually on Heather's side. And I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why.

Okay.

I believe that Heather did two things. Two things can be true. Do I think she.

Worked with Carmella because that was her way of having an alliance?

Because she needs somebody on her side. Sure. Absolutely. I do believe that.

I also believe Heather told herself, this won't be a bad thing because it's a rental property.

And anybody who knows anything about real.

Estate, when I contact my real estate agents and they know that, okay, and I'm not buying, I want to rent, the conversation is not the same.

It's a one million percent.

Right?

And their commission's not the same. And they're like, actually, this is like going to the dentist for me, but I'll do it for you as a favor.

Exactly, exactly.

So the thing is this, was Heather's intention to form an alliance with Carmela?

Yes.

But I also think Heather thought to herself, I'm not even going to present this to Gina because I'm not buying a house where the commission that Gina would make would be what it is. Because let me tell you something, in the state of California, okay, because I want to make sure I give the raindrops all the info.

Well, I want the info too.

This is Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

Okay. So in the state of California, a.

Real estate agent's commission is up to 5.47% of the sales price.

That's a lot of money, right? A lot of money.

But can I tell you something?

Yes.

I'll be honest with you because I've bought and sold lots of properties and no one falls for that. You negotiate upfront. You don't do the 5.4. That's a fricking high. That is the craziest thing. And anyone that hasn't negotiated with their real estate agent, I'm sorry. I'm not paying 5.4 on my house. I'll go get my own license and sell the damn thing myself. Not paying 5.4.

What do you negotiate?

I'm not going to tell you.

My- Okay.

Okay.

But here's the deal. Here's the deal. What is it for rental? What do they make for rent? I thought that's where you were going to take this. I want to know.

Okay, no, that was going to be next. That was going to be next. Okay.

California real estate commission percentage for rental.

Okay? For rental property. Okay. That commission equals... One month's rent.

Oh, that seems fair to me. It's like a deposit. It's kind of a deposit.

That's fair, but here's the deal. The amount of work you're putting into to get what? Between $ 5, 000.

To $ 6, 000? Uh....

With what Heather's looking at, just so you know, I just put my son in a rental apartment. Okay, he got married and they're in a rental. What Heather's looking at is upwards of 10.

Okay.

10 a month for that rental.

Right.

So even for a California state real estate agent, $ 10, 000 for all the work you got to do isn't worth it.

When they're commissioned, I watch Million Dollar Listing.

Josh Altman, who sold that beautiful home her and Terry own in OC, that.

Motherfucker got at least upwards of half a million dollars.

It's insanity.

But I don't think, Carlos, I don't really think that finding a rental is that hard. I don't think that... I'll find it for 10 grand. I'll do the research for you.

I don't think it's that hard.

You get on and put in Zillow. What's for rental? I don't know. I'm just guessing. But Zillow is where you find some houses too. But it's like, you just put it in and find a rental around and you go look at the rental. I don't think it's that much work that I will take the five or 10 grand, no problem.

Here's the deal.

What's so interesting to me is I understand Gina's concern because I, listen, and that's why I said two things can be true.

I do think those are the reasons Heather did it.

And I also think Gina is right because if we're friends and for Gina.

To And for anybody except Josh Altman.

But for Gina, $ 10, 000.

That's a lot of money.

It's a good chunk of change.

That's where I'm, I don't agree with you that I'm on Heather's side. I'm on Gina's side that Heather should have gone to Gina. I do see the business side of it where it's like, She lives in, you know, Carmela's other home that's not in Corona Del Mar is in Rancho, you know, down near San Diego. So I forgot what Rancho Santa Fe or something like that. But anyway, I get that she would know a little bit more of the ins and outs of that area. What I would have done if Heather really wanted to use Carmela is I would have gone to Gina and say, I know we've been friends for six or seven years now, eight years, whatever it's been. And I just want you to know, my thoughts are here. I think I should go to Carmela because she's down there. She knows the

area and just, just touch base. And like, you know, but to kind of just like do it and be like, Oh, it's no big deal. It's kind of like Gina's feelings didn't matter. Or like, did Heather really not think that it would hurt Gina's feelings? Any woman would know or person would know, you know, whether let Gina make the decision.

She doesn't want the five or $ 10, 000 commission. Don't just go to the newbie in the group and. and discount your friend that's been doing real estate for four years right before your eyes and is doing a great, I mean, it looks like Gina's doing a fabulous job. She is.

No, she is. She is.

She is.

And I agree with you when it comes to that.

I agree that if that was her thought process, at least give her a heads up.

Let her have the choice. Let her say, no, I don't want to do it.

Yeah.

No.

And it was interesting because even when they were disagreeing, at the restaurant, Heather did say that she was pissed that Gina told Carmella and was talking about what she said behind her back.

And Heather felt that Gina did that on purpose to hurt her. Right.

But then Gina was so smart in her confessional and goes, well, if you don't want things to get out of the bag, don't say things. Like, if you don't want things to be spoken about, then just keep your mouth shut and don't talk, don't say it. Because You're on a reality show news alert. Anything you say is going to be used and held against you in the court of reality TV.

Like it's going to be there.

You know, they're going to say it. Yeah.

Who knows what, when Heather said it originally, which we don't know yet, they might pull that up at the reunion or whatever. Whenever Heather said it originally, oh, they said it was off camera.

It was off camera.

But think about this. You never know. Sometimes when you're filming. well, at least me, and I think, you know, I've talked to other housewives about this and they feel the same. You forget if they're still there filming or if you're having your after hours fun. You don't remember like, oh, when we were having all that talk about, you know, our wild night the other night and were the cameras still up or were they stopped down? Like you literally forget because you're filming for so many hours and then you have a little bit of fun girl time and then you go to bed. You know, who would have known if the camera would have caught it?

I think Heather's smart enough to know what to say on camera, what to not. I think she's that calculating. I just think that's who she is, which is going back to her character. What did you think about the fact that they also were talking about Vicky?

And they feel like... Tamara tells Carmella that Vicky's.

That Vicky says she did not have Rooks in her bathroom, food in her pantry.

I'm like, what?

So Carmela has to now FaceTime the people to be like, can you please show this?

What is going on here?

I freaking love that. You know, and it's kind of like, I could so be in Carmela's shoes on that point because I have like, you know, I had three kids all living here. And all of them were teenagers. All of them had, like my door was a revolving door. No one even knocked. Everyone just walked in. So I would have 12 teenagers here all of a sudden. And my pantry and my fridge would be gone. Everything's gone all of a sudden. I'd just gone to Costco. And then if anyone would have come to my house, like Vicky would have come right after that entourage of 12 or 15 teenagers walking in and, bye mom.

Okay, we're going to the mall.

Okay, mom, but thanks for the leftover filet mignon and then all the eggs. And we're going to eat everything right now. We're going to do everything. And then I'd be like, I got to go back to Costco tomorrow. You can ask Spencer. Every time Spencer talked to me, he's like, what are you doing? I'm like on the way to Costco. I get Carmela. And then she's like, please show the pantry.

And it's like stocked. I, I, the thing, the thing is Vicky is just somebody that has a lot of opinions. And I just think, I think what's becoming a Vicky, I don't think Vicky's a girl's girl.

I don't. I think Vicky looks at people, judges them.

And finds holes in their stories or just find ways to poke at them. And maybe that's her way of trying to get to know a person. But I never saw Vicky on the show ever embrace somebody head on. I feel like everybody she's been friends with eventually, you even, you even, right? I feel like she looks at someone and dissects them and calls out what she sees. And then she makes up her mind whether or not she wants you to be friends with her.

She hazes for sure. She has a hazing. And she, I've talked to her about this. So nothing I'm going to say is going to be a shock to her. Um, cause she knows she did it to me too. She hazes and then she either falls in love with you or she really doesn't like you. Like she is very, the one thing I love about Vicky and here's the thing that I want to say about the whole Carmela thing with Vicky is, you know, Vicky doesn't, she's not two-faced.

So everyone's calling how they're out for being two-faced and you're, you're fake and you're doing this and all that, whatever. Vicky, you know, where you stand with her, you know, if she likes you or she doesn't, you know, if she's irritated with you or she's not. Yes, she's a little bit scroogey this season. I'm definitely seeing that now. Remember your people commented to us, like, Alexis, I'm giving you grace because you haven't watched everything. It's like now I'm seeing that she is being a little bit, you know, like I said last episode I taped with you, she bit off more than she could chew. She really bit off a little bit more than she could chew. So I just love her. I still love her on my screen.

I don't agree with everybody else. I'm I can see, I know exactly what she was thinking in that kitchen with the pizza when she's just like, let's move on. And nobody would drop anything. It's like, I already hashed it. Let's move on. And she kept trying to tell him, let's move on. She wasn't ready to keep her apron on and finish cooking the pizzas. Instead, she wanted, you know, she's just like, I'm done. But I can picture myself being in her shoes too. Okay.

Well, we'll get to that because I disagree with you. I like emphatically disagree with you. But that's why you and I work well together because we have different points of views.

We kiss and make up at the end of every episode.

Always, honey. Hey, everybody.

News alert. This is a podcast about feelings. of what you're watching and seeing and viewing and how you're perceiving it it's about what you feel it's not we're not rocket scientists nothing is bible or scripture it's we're just giving some opinions so i can say your opinion stinks and i don't agree with.

You I just think it's the craziest thing. It's insane. But we'll get to that. We'll get there. By the way, one of the moments that I.

Carmella, I haven't had an episode where I dislike Carmella.

When the cops pulled them over.

And Carmella's like, oh, shit. I don't have my license on me. Like, making the ladies more scared than they already are, I thought that was so funny.

And she was so dry.

She was so dry. It was perfect. Because I was bleeding. I'm like, oh, shit. Where is this going to go? You know, she's going to end up in jail. She's like, just kidding.

I loved her.

She's getting pulled over for expired registration tags.

The girls are freaking out. I want to ask you this. Hold on.

Did you see, let me pull it up real quick. It was on cameras. Hold on a second. Did you see what the cop actually did with them? Hang on.

You're going to die.

The cop got out of his vehicle. Production was, okay, I'm going to play it for you. Ready?

Yes, Zoe.

You must not have seen it, but I want the raindrops to see it too. This is freaking hysterical. Okay, watch what the cop does.

Are you kidding me? So guys, he's doing like a TikTok video.

Okay, wait, watch again now that I get the music.

Listen.

Bob gave him a ticket, but then he let him do a TikTok with the other film crew was in the car, obviously, and pulled over and filmed them doing that.

I was rolling.

I'm like, I commented on it. I said, hey, this TikTok's not cringeworthy. This is everything.

The fact that he was... Let me tell you something, baby.

That could only happen in OC because in Atlanta....

No cop's going to allow you to do that in Atlanta.

Baby, that is OC California style. But you know what's so funny? I wonder if he.

If he got in trouble by... I do.

I do wonder that because my son's going through the fire academy right now and it is... 3,000 people. It is intense. You have detectives calling you. It is intense. And so for a cop to be in that role, they take it very seriously. So the raindrops can understand what's happening. The cop was standing there with his arms crossed and the girls are all dancing around him. And, and the film crew is filming all of this and they put it to that music. So it's, it's like, it's hysterical. You've got to go to Tamara's page and you can see it on her Instagram, Tamara judge. But it's, it's hysterical. It was just so funny. So funny.

Did you see the comment?

So Raindrops, watch this video on Tamara's page. It's the cop in the middle and the girls are surrounding him dancing. California Highway Patrol commented, okay, but don't do it again, Gina.

Gina? They said Gina.

Gina and Tamara collaborated on that. So they posted it together. But don't do it again, Gina. But Gina wasn't driving. She just did the TikTok.

That's why it's funny. It's like, why is he blaming Gina? It's so funny. Instead of the cops.

He didn't say don't do it again, Dennis, you know, or whatever.

The cops say. That's hilarious. That's hilarious.

So getting back to the girls, I thought that was a great moment with Carmela.

But I want to ask you this. when was the last time you got pulled over? Oh gosh.

Well, knock on wood. Give me some wood. It's been a long time, but like I had one year where I was, the kids were little and I was running to preschools and they were at different schools and, or no, my twins weren't quite in school yet. And I got like four tickets all back to back. One was crossing a crosswalk when there was a pedestrian that had his foot on the street, but I was just going and my car was loaded with Costco and I'm running to pick up my son. It was like my fourth ticket.

So then I get the letter in the mail that said, you know, one more and your license is going to be revoked or whatever. And I was like, holy crap. I like, I was driving like ever, the grandma you've never seen. I was like, two hands, 10 and two, going 20 miles an hour at all times.

But other than that, that scares me.

They were a little, I, so, you know, I try not to speed. I'm being honest. I don't really, you know, sports cars and all, I don't really want to speed. I'm not that girl. What about you? Okay.

You want to hear a funny... Oh, this is a good story. It's a good story. It's a good story. Okay.

I was coming home from celebrating my birthday in Cabo the same weekend you got married, which is why I wasn't at your wedding.

October 3rd weekend?

Yes. Uh-huh. Yes.

You did not tell me you got pulled over.

What?

No.

Let me tell you what happened. So I got back from Mexico.

And.

I came home and I had to make a run someplace.

So at the time, I was driving a sports car at the time, right? So all the raindrops who have a sports car know you have to rev the engine, right? Because I haven't... I was out of town. So I was out of town for a week.

You got to get the bugs out.

Yeah, so you got to like... So I'm leaving the community and I'm like... And then.

A cop pulls me over and I'm like, okay, whatever. I can explain like, hey, I literally was out of my gate for maybe 20 seconds.

And I'm like, hey, long story short, he said, license registration. I was like, you're fine. He said, your license suspended. I said, no, it's not. He said, yes, it is. And I'm like, no, it ain't.

Wrong Carlos.

I didn't know it was.

So apparently, because I don't want to say too much, but apparently it was due to a default in an insurance. So long story short, I wasn't aware. So listen, I have to take my podcast in two hours. True story.

And I'm like.

I'm sweating.

I'm like... And he said, I'm going, he said, because I do believe you didn't know, because I can tell you, like, I'm like, my reaction is like, my heart is beating fast. And the nice officer said, look, I'm giving you a citation.

Take care of it. Explain what happened. Blah, blah, blah. But I can't let you drive this car. You have to get out.

Did you call AAA to tow your car?

I had to walk back home. No.

And leave your car on the side of the road?

I called my friend who lives like 20 minutes away from me. I said, can you please pick up my car? And the officer said, because I guess he was like, are you.

Really going to leave your car here? I said, I'm going to leave it here. And he was like, all right. And he kept circling the block. So that's the last time. And I'm like, oh my God, this is crazy. So yes, that's the last time.

Let's talk about when a little bit of fame helps come your way. When Heather's like in her confessional, she's like, yeah, well, I got pulled over the other time and the guy just wanted a selfie. And then we, you know, and then he let me go. I'm like, dang, okay. I'll take a little bit of fame if that gets me off a ticket.

Oh yeah, no, once again, Alexis, that can only happen in the OC. Okay. Oh, I agree.

I agree about that part.

That's it. That ain't happening to the world, boo. Yeah, the loosest state possible.

So, yeah. I can probably do that. Highest taxes, lowest control rate of anything.

So, I want to get into this moment because one thing that happened when the girls, Tamara, Gina, Carmela, and Heather were at dinner was.

Seeing Heather and Gina get into it.

And Heather feeling like Gina pretty much was trying to set her up. Gina feels like, like you said, no, just don't talk shit about somebody if that's what you do.

Just don't do it.

Do you think in that moment Heather was trying to gaslight Gina? Because I want to explain to the audience, when Gina got irate, I took it as, huh, Gina feels like Heather is trying to be the victim in this moment and she's not the victim.

That's how I took it.

Well, I think Gina made it very clear. She's just sick of Heather flipping the table all the time instead of just owning it and saying, like, if I put myself in that situation, like if I was Gina- All I'd want to hear from Heather is just, I am so sorry. I honestly was an airhead. I didn't think about that at all, how it would affect you. And I'm sorry. And I will not do that again. And I get it. I understand now because like, you know, if your husband comes to you or someone comes to you and they're upset, it's, you can't deflect. You have to, their feelings are valid. Feelings are not, you can own your feeling and your feeling is valid. So you have to validate that feeling. So all Heather needed to do

was just validate Gina and say, I'm so sorry. I didn't think about it at the time. Now that you've pointed it out, you're right. But I think you're right that Heather was trying to like skirt around it or just, I don't know if deflect is the right word, but something like that, like kind of just, you know, make it a lesser of a problem than it really was when it is, it was, it's a problem. And you know what, by the way, we didn't talk about the poll.

So last night on watch what happens live, Andy asked if, whose site are you on, Heather or Gina's? Should Heather have used Gina? And you won that poll, mother effer. It was 55 to 45. So, or 50 to 40, 50. It was really, really close. But the most were more like Heather was right to use it. Because I can see, like I said, I can see the fact that Carmela lives down there. She knows the area better. And it's just a rental. It's not to buy. But at the end of the day, my heart still feels like if I were Heather, I would have gone to Gina first.

So that's why I say Gina, but you were in the majority, the slightly, slightly.

Like I always am. No, I'm teasing. I'm teasing. No, but I think I'm teasing.

But I think the reason why it's split is because I can see both sides.

Cause I agree.

I agree with you. Heather should have been set. Look, I'm not giving you this one.

It's a rental. I don't think you need it, but if you do, I'll give it to you.

But I think, I think because of Carmela, whatever, But I think it should have been Gina's choice because they are friends and they have been friends for five years.

And they did go to New York to eat pizza. Exactly. All right.

So the rest of the ladies are at Vicky's house and they're in the pool, you know, and listen, I love Emily. I know Emily is not liked on social media, but I told you guys social media isn't real. So I like that Emily doesn't mind. First of all, I smile every time she calls Vicky Victoria.

Oh, why?

I think it's because she's the only one who does it.

All of us have at times, though. I mean, back when we were filming 5 through 8 or even now sometimes. I mean, because that is her name. And I mean, she kind of reminds me of a Victoria.

Yeah.

You know, but she's just like me too. So I don't know.

Okay, but go ahead.

Yeah, no, but I like the way she says it. So Emily is like, look, we do feel like whenever we talk about Mike, you find a way to sort of like throw a jab at Jen.

And Vicky's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Don't do that. And Jen's like, no, I kind of feel like you do that too. Blah, blah, blah.

Vicky feels like they're poking the bear and this is low hanging fruit. And Shannon's like, look, you can't say that. Like you wouldn't want anyone to say that about you. She's like, Shannon, you can call me low hanging fruit. She said, but I would never do that. And Emily's like, let's be clear. I couldn't even call you Debbie Downer.

So calling you low hanging fruit is not even like something you would want.

Us to do.

I want to stop there for a second because in that moment, You can tell that Vicky is realizing, oh, you guys are trying to put me in the hot seat and I'm not going to fall for it. I'm not going to be the topic of conversation because we all know on these cast trips or dinner scenes, somebody has to be in the hot seat. And in that moment, the wheels were spinning and And Vicky said, oh, I see what you guys are doing.

Not me.

Similar to what Heather did two episodes.

Ago when she realized, all right, what? What? Okay, just say it. Bring it up, Emily. Go ahead. When they talked about how she talked shit about Carmella.

Do you think Vicky in that moment before we continue felt that way?

Yeah, for sure. she was, Vicky's just like, I'm not doing this. Just like in the car where she's like, we've got 30 minutes to drive. I'm not getting involved in this little like hoopla, whatever you guys are going to do, just to have your conversation. Because a lot of car scenes don't get shown. There's so many times you're traveling that the car scenes don't get shown at all.

So Vicky's like, I'm going to do my 30 emails right now for this 30 minute ride. And you just keep your, you know, do your thing. It's a waste of recording, filming anyway. But in that moment, when that was all happening at her jacuzzi and her pizza party throwing It was definitely like she's like, I'm not going to be in the hot seat. I'm not doing it.

That's why she took her mic off. That's why she went to her bedroom. She's not doing it.

Well, before she even did that, girl, we got to get into the fact that baby, her boyfriend Mike comes up again and they're like, you do not want to talk about Mike. Vicky finally admits that she's been hurt in the past by comments from that other people have said about her relationship.

Yes.

Which I'm like, okay, now we understand why, but it's those moments where don't say in the confessional, say it in the moment.

And I feel like the reason why I.

Am extremely disappointed in Vicky is because you can't say how upset you.

Were that you were fired. Her words, not mine, right?

And how you did not think you deserved to be fired.

Her words, not mine. And as somebody who enjoyed Vicky, I.

Have not enjoyed her as much as I did in the past. Because she's acting like she's too good to be a reality star. She's acting like she's too good to be a housewife. At the end of the day, this is the show. It's sort of like when you graduate from high school and you go to college. And you get invited back your senior year. But you're over all the proms, the graduation. You feel like, I already done.

This is stupid.

You don't have to be here. You did not have to say yes. You did not have.

To sleep with an orange on your pillow sheets and take a picture of it. You did not have to do any of those things. You could have said, guys, I appreciate it. I know what this show is about. I'm not there anymore. And I feel like the problem with Vicky is she signed on to do the show, but she doesn't want to.

Do the show.

Exactly. But here's the thing. I said this last week when we were taping the pod. I said, you know, she bit off more than she could chew. She did not know. So you can't be mad at her for coming back on the show thinking she wanted to do it. And and then, like I said, the show is a totally different animal now. When I film just as a friend of it is a totally different animal than seasons five through eight. And Vicky was on until what, 10.

And then she's been gone for six or seven years. So, and just making cameos. So it is a different beast now. So I think, and I'm defending Vicky.

Yes.

And everybody can hate me for it, but I do understand her. I do understand. First of all, I know her heart and she's not a bad person, but like, I do understand where she's coming from, where it's like, I, this is way too much now. It's way too much now, but the question is going to be Carlos. Will they even ask her back? Because if you know, no, no, I, As a producer, you feel that in your gut? I don't even want to go back, though. Would she even go back?

Yes, because it's ego. Nobody wants to get fired again. Nobody. Nobody.

And look, because she paraded that orange like it was, you know... a trophy for selling the most insurance in the state of California, this meant a lot to her.

And because I am watching her Ultimate Girls trip, and that show was.

Filmed prior to this season we're watching.

Two months.

She has, but not even that. She has the same behavior. Listen, I appreciate Lisa Vanderpump, and I'm going to tell you why. Lisa Vanderpump, has been asked to come back to Beverly Hills Housewives.

She's been asked to be on Ultimate Girls Trip.

She's been asked to do so many things under the umbrella.

How do you know this? Because Andy has said it. And she has said it.

Oh.

So it's been out there that she has refused and said, no, I'm not.

Yes.

But see, I almost feel like Vicky, I feel like Vicky's going to say she wouldn't want to come back this season. I feel like, not that she's going to be fired.

Give me next season.

Our next season. I think she's going to say, I think in my mind, she's like, this is way too much. I want to focus on my three houses and my love life with Mike. I'm done with this show. I think she would say no to coming back.

Okay. I don't know.

And I have not, I have talked to her, but I've not asked her that question. I'm just saying.

When was the last time you spoke to her?

Oh, like, I don't even like three weeks ago. I think what's funny is story is I was texting her and I said, I love you back on my screen. And then I'm carrying, like, I have all these things in my arm and she texted back and she's like, oh my God, and I miss you. And we're talking on text. And then all of a sudden I'm holding all this stuff down the stairs and I hear her voice and I'm like Hello? And I like pocket dialed her.

So then we caught up for another like 20 minutes. But I'm like, well, I didn't mean to call you. Sorry, my hands are full.

Hold on a second.

I went down and then we just caught up. But I didn't ask her that question at the moment. So I don't know. I'm just guessing that this was just too much. And she's just like, I'm over.

Listen, I hope I'm wrong because I, listen, I'm not somebody who wants to see anybody get fired besides two housewives. But anyways, that's not this topic of conversation. So then we get to.

Because that's a whole other story.

I think your raindrops probably know, Carlos.

They know. Let's say they know one from a show premiering next week. Anyway, so one thing I will say is Vicky gets up out of the pool, right? And she is like, I'm done.

I don't want to argue.

She's livid.

She goes into the kitchen. She's making pizza. Shannon comes in looking scared. She tells Shannon, I expected you to.

Have my back.

I would not let anybody talk to you the way you let these girls talk to me. Because Vicky feels like, and I will agree with Vicky with this. I will agree with Vicky on this. Vicky goes against Tamara for Shannon.

It's true.

You know?

So I'm with Vicky 100% on this. Shannon did not have Vicky's back like a real sister.

Okay?

Because when it comes to Vicky, I will give Vicky this. She has Shannon's back against Tamara Judge. And when Tamara is not even wrong, and Shannon is, Vicky chastises Tamara as if she gave birth to her 49 years ago.

How old is Tamra?

She's 59, remember? She's 10 years older than me. That's how we have to remember. She's turning 60 next year.

Okay, 59 years ago.

So Shannon didn't say anything because I was like, well, Vicky, look, where points are made, points are made, and she made.

A good point.

The funny thing to me is Emily and before I get to that, do you agree with Vicky as it relates to Shannon not having her back in that moment in the pool?

I think Shannon's in a really... I'm being very objective.

Like in a hard place?

Yeah, she's in a no-win. She's not going to win. So I don't know. I probably might have frozen up a little bit too if I was Shannon. I don't know. I don't know because it's... Because you know Vicky is kind of out of line. It's almost like, you know... I don't know. I think Shannon couldn't have won no matter what she did. I mean, yeah, so what she's going to tell the girls, okay, let's lay off Vicky.

And then the girls are going to be like, well, why? We're just trying to communicate. We're on a reality show. We're supposed to talk about things, talk about feelings, conflict resolution. And I don't know. But I did laugh my butt off. when she did the potty break in the neighbor's house on the golf course, I was literally rolling laughing. I was like, that was comic relief at its finest. And then, and the girls are all leaving her and she's like, we got to comic relief before all the drama.

Yeah. So that was good though. That was good. That was good. That was good.

Anyway, that's, I just don't know. What do you think though?

I think she, listen, I'm with Vicky because Vicky, listen, Tamara's not always wrong, you guys.

And, but, Vicky has never once told Shannon, you were wrong.

So, and again, it's not Shannon's responsibility to have Vicky's back because she had hers, but I do at least understand Vicky in that moment.

It was the one time this season.

I understood her point of view because I want to always get props where props are due.

But don't you feel like in the kitchen, Shannon was trying to do that? Like she was trying to smooth things over and make things light.

After the fact, though. Oh, yeah.

Vicky feels like this. In front of these bitches, have my back. Because I have your back in front of Tamra. Not when you're not around.

I do it in front of Tamra. Right. So that's what Vicky wanted from Shannon.

Shannon obviously knew she fucked up, which is why she's like, you want me to make pepperoni pizza, the green peppers, the onions.

Tomatoes.

Do I cut these tomatoes?

Yeah, I'll cut tomatoes.

The funny thing is, Emily and Jen in the room with their matching PJs, like, I'm scared.

What do I do? This is weird. We're at her house.

We're going to get kicked out. Let's at least go out and, like, try to help. They went out to the kitchen. Vicky says....

Vicky says she's livid, and it's her home. Vicky tells Shannon.

That, again, I would not let people talk to you crazy that way. Jen comes out, apologizes. She says she's sorry. Vicky says, when someone says they're sorry, they move on. They don't come back. Emily then goes, well, you never said you're sorry. And baby, Victoria is pissed. So much so, she tells them she's done. She's going to lose her mind.

and that they need to play the quiet game.

If I had been, if I had been there, because I know Vicky, I know, I would have looked at the girls and been like, we're playing the quiet game, guys, like this. You do like the little kid throw the key away, like you zip it up and throw it away. Like I would have totally, because Shannon could even feel Vicky blowing, like boiling, like it's boiling, it's boiling. And then sure enough, Vicky's like, Mike's coming off. I'm going to my room. Bye, everybody. Get the fuck out of my house.

Was she?

Oh, but no.

Listen.

The fact, I will, listen.

Raindrops, I don't care what y'all think. Emily was the MVP this episode. Because even when Vicky's like, no, Alexis, hear me out, hear me out.

Emily would not back down to Vicky. And I love it. I love it. I love it. Because Vicky, listen.

She's the queen bee in the sense of she's the OG of the OC. But I like the fact that Emily's like, but no, I mean, we have to learn how to talk. Vicky storms off, goes to her room, then Michael appears. And this is when the Blair Witch Project, horror movie, Freddy Krueger, Jason in the basement, Friday the 13th, when they played that sinister music, when Michael came in.

As if he was deaf?

Yes, like, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee.

I was scared. I was scared, too.

And I was also like, what do you think about the fact that he, I was scared. I was like, okay, well, is he going to explode or is he going to keep his cool? Like, I don't know the guy, so I don't know. But what do you think about him showing up everywhere, like Vegas and here and everywhere? What do you think about all that?

You don't want to know.

I do want to know, hello, we're taping a podcast about feelings. Yes, I do want to know. I'm not asking you what temperature the weather is.

Fuck, I have to go there. Shit. Okay. Okay, I'm going there.

I can take my question back.

I'll answer it. No, listen, I'm fair. I'm fair. I'm fair.

Okay.

I think Michael allegedly could be possibly allegedly controlling.

Because I'm going to tell you why.

This is Carlos King, the producer, talking.

So I'm only talking as a producer. Okay.

To make the choice in the edit to play the sinister music as Michael appears in the house. Y'all shoot him going to her room, closing the door. The next thing we know, she comes out and Victoria says, don't talk about Mike.

He's already, and she caught herself.

I took that as perhaps production is seeing things we don't see. Hence the sinister music choice. I've been watching OC.

Since day one.

I've never seen Brooks get sinister music the way Michael did.

And Michael doesn't say much.

So to see that, then, I'm sorry, to hear that, then to see Vicky leave and then talk to my friend, the showrunner, Luke Nestle, the producer that they titled Production Staff, and she's like, everyone can get the fuck out of my house.

And to be continued... I have chills. I had chills. I watched that moment twice.

Wow.

It scared me.

Well, I think by the time the reunion comes, we're going to learn a lot more. If they're still together, then they worked through it. it and everything's fine. Otherwise, the other side of that is Mike is like, I'm not doing this reality show. We're over, you know, like, you.

Know, back. I think the, my opinion, my opinion, my opinion.

I think the only reason Vicky would not do this show anymore is because Mike will tell her not to do it.

I don't agree with that. And I want to ask, now I want to call Vicky and ask her, but then she'll be like, you're using it for your pod. So I'm trying not to talk to the women about everything anymore.

Has she seen clips of you on the pod?

I don't think so. And Vicky doesn't watch the show, by the way. She doesn't rewatch any of the scenes. She would go to the reunion and I would always be in complete awe of her because I will dissect the scenes and I am like, my notes are going and I'm like on it, you know? she's the opposite. She doesn't even watch the scene or doesn't care what anyone's commenting about. She just lives in the moment. I love her.

Okay.

Anyway, no, I try not to talk to the girls about the pod and ask questions. And I also think that at this point, they're like, we're not telling Alexis Jack shit. Cause she's going to go back and just like spew to Carlos about it. I'm in a really bad pickle.

Actually.

Thanks a lot.

I am too.

Carlos.

How do you think I feel? I have this. I recap all this shit. I got Atlanta Housewives mad. I don't fucking know what I do anymore.

Last Kathy Hilton party we were both at, it was two years ago, and you were there. I had no clue what you had to feel like because now if I'm in a red carpet with all these girls or at a big party, I'm going to be like, oh, they probably hate me. They don't like me. I still love them. I'm like, you had to be in such a weird state then. I wasn't potting with you back then, so I had no idea.

You weren't.

Now I totally get it.

You weren't, but that's why I will always say this. The housewives who love me because of the pod are Salt Lake City girls.

They could not have been sweeter.

Aw.

They could, like, literally, literally could not have been nicer.

Nice.

Because, you know, I'll say this. The newer housewives are.

Get it.

They, which is so weird because you would think the OGs or the vets would be this way, but I find out that they're not.

The new housewives appreciate our, our voice.

Right.

And they don't take it personally.

They don't take it personal. It's like, it's almost like because they've seen so many seasons of housewives now, I mean, OC has been on 20 years. So for 20 seasons to see it and watch it and see it like kind of evolve, it's kind of like, you got to be able to let things roll off. That's what I love the most about Carmela. She's just not letting anything stick on her. She's just like letting it all roll.

And that's how the new girls are. Cause they're like, look, we're on a show to create drama and to Fight and then make up. So kiss and make up. So it's like, you know, they all kind of get the assignment.

No, they do.

On the other hand, has forgotten the assignment.

Well, some of the OGs and vets don't appreciate the assignment. But again, in the words of Patti LaBelle, and I'll leave you with this, Alexis Jansen.

You sat up all straight, so I'm trying to get my posture good.

Okay. Don't worry when people are talking about you.

Worry about the day they stop.

Ah, Salt Lake City gets that. Salt Lake City gets that. See, you know what my mom always said? It's none of your business what people are saying about you. You just butt out. Like, it's none of your business. You just keep doing you, Lex. My mom would have died if she's rolling over in her grave right now, like, thinking about.

All the crap that's been said.

Marvelous advice. No, marvelous advice. So, again, this episode, I laughed. That ending was so creepy.

Now they're leaving. Jen and Emily are packing up their stuff to leave. That's how the episode ended, right?

Yeah.

Do you think they actually left?

Yes, I think they actually leave. If it were me, I would have left. I would have called an Uber. I would have been out of there. Even if I didn't want to drive all the way home, I would have Ubered to a hotel there in Palm Desert. I would have been out of there and then got a spa treatment the next day. That's me.

No, I'm excited.

It's ramping up though, Carlos. It took, this is episode 10. So it took nine episodes. So Beverly Hills was eight or seven. This one's nine. It's okay. Slow burn. We're loving the OC women. We're sending lots of love to them. I want to know that cop's name. I'm going to look up. I'm going to zoom in on his badge.

Make sure he pulls me over so that I can get a tick talk with him.

Oh, okay. Okay. We love that. We love that. We love that.

No, but I agree with you. Shout out to the OC ladies. This was, to me, the best episode of the season.

By far. I was thoroughly entertained.

I agree. And it did all the, it did all the feels. Like you said, it gave us the laughter. It gave us a little bit of, we got scared. We had it all.

It was good. It was good. So, Alexis, I love you.

Alexis and I, once again, want to give a happy birthday shout out to Spencer.

Happy 40th. Spencer, I'll see you in a couple hours.

We love you, Spencer. Happy birthday. Alexis, have a great weekend, baby. And I will see you next week, boo.

Bye, guys.

Love you.

Bye, baby.

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