The Holiday Scrub with Joey Graziadei

Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya Rad, an iHeartRadio and two-time People's Choice Award winning podcast. Maybe at one point in my life I'll really get strict on it, but that's just crazy talk to me. We've always, like since I've been in school, I've said Grazaday because you can't expect people to add that much pronunciation.

The next movie press run?

Yeah.

We'll get more aggressive with the pronunciation.

We'll get a little more aggressive. Let's make it what people expect right now.

All right, we're going to get started. Everyone, welcome back. Joey Krause is here.

What an intro. Hi, guys.

Hello.

I feel like so much has happened since the last time we saw you.

The last time I saw you, if I can remember correct, was during Still the Dance with the Stars season, right?

With Jenna.

Okay, so we were in the thick of it. It was me and Jenna here. We were talking about stuff. Okay, I thought that was the case, but It feels like forever ago, but also not that long ago. So I had to get the timeline figured out in my head. Because yes, a lot has happened.

A lot.

Including you've, well, I don't know how much you can talk about Your next reality show debut.

Yes, yes.

But you won Dancing with the Stars after we had that podcast.

I did.

Which was incredible.

I'm the luckiest guy.

I honestly still don't really comprehend the fact that I won that show, but very grateful for it.

You re-proposed to Kelsey.

Yes.

On your own terms, which I love.

It was the best.

You're on another reality show coming up, Traitors.

Yep.

You hosted the Dancing with the Stars podcast last season.

I did.

And now you are in a movie as an actor.

I am.

I know.

Now you guys, when you say it like that, it sounds like I've been very busy. I've been trying to be busy.

Yeah, it's like so busy. When they said that you were coming on, I'm like, oh my gosh, we have so much to cover. I don't even know where to start.

I'm open to talk about whatever you want.

Well.

Okay, hold on. So we both watched the movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we're going to get into it because I'm obsessed also with Jamie Chung.

She's the best.

I've loved her since she was on The Real World. Do you know she was on The Real World?

I didn't know until I got to filming, which was honestly the best thing possible because she understood what it was.

Like to come from reality and try to start doing scripted.

And she loves acting, loves the art of it. So as someone that was like, trying to come in and take it very serious, but also knew it was going to be kind of trial by fire because it was my first experience and to be in that position and have that much to do, it was just really nice to have someone that was like your security blanket to help you through it that also understood where you were coming from.

Can I ask, did any of you watch Real World? No, just me.

Okay, okay. Because I'm like, there's like two types of millennials. There's like the real world people and like the Disney people. I was like the real world person.

I think it's a great show. I mean, I get it.

It kind of was the OG of a lot of the other shows that built off of it. So, obviously did very well.

Have you wanted to pursue acting for a while? Was this an offer that came out of nowhere? Was it something you were seeking?

I'm so curious about how this came about.

I would say it's somewhere in the middle.

It definitely wasn't something I was actively looking for at the time, but it was something I was open to. My first chance of doing it was actually playing myself on 9-1-1. I played Joey the Bachelor, and they had that crazy opening scene where a girl glues herself to the driveway, and it was one of those things that I finally got to see what it was like to be on a set.

And It was so different. Immediately, I was like, okay, there are similarities, but it is so much.

More different angles, different moments, people actually having to hit your lines, doing a lot of takes of the same thing, where in reality, it was just usually the cameras are in the background, and you're just kind of doing you, and you're just trying to find your way through whatever experience you're doing in reality. So I was open to it because I thought it was so fun, but I just didn't really put a lot of effort into it until this opportunity came along and it just seemed like a no-brainer and something I was so excited about. And I'm grateful to Roku for giving me the opportunity to actually dive into this because it was so much fun.

You're really good in it.

Thank you.

I appreciate it. Again, fake it till you make it. That's how I've been living my life.

So I think it's working out so far.

Okay, so The Holiday Spark, that's the movie we're talking about. It premieres on the Roku channel on November 2nd. Tell me how to find the Roku channel.

Yeah.

I mean, for me, Roku channel is in, when I thought of Roku initially, everyone has those TVs, right? And the Roku stick, but there's so many ways to be able to get onto the Roku channel. I just think people have to actively look for it. I think most people might not even know that their TV, they can just go onto the Roku channel on the home spring on the home screen and they'll see it pop up as a widget. And I'm, I'm excited to kind of see that starting to get promoted as it comes to that time. But Anyone can stream it. It's free streaming for anyone. You just got to look up the Veroku channel and hopefully you'll see my face on there.

It's a good movie.

I love that. Thank you.

I like love.

It's so layered because it's like obviously it's a rom-com, but also like it's about you guys discovering yourselves and like being good with yourselves before... I don't want to give any spoilers away. But okay, so you're engaged. You're engaged to Kelsey that you met on The Bachelor. Now you're doing a movie, a rom-com. Was she like.

I talked to her about it first. She was very cool about it.

When the opportunity came my way, I was like, okay, another great opportunity, but I need to first and foremost talk to my partner and see if it's something that they would be okay with because we both have said we had interest in going into scripted, but it's like, yeah, it's me playing a role with someone else building chemistry.

And I knew it was going to stay fully professional as it would, but I'm not going to just like do it without talking through it.

But she was so supportive.

She immediately told me like, Hey, I think it could be something you could be great at.

I think it's something you could fully commit to.

And then she made the joke of like, I've seen you kiss plenty of other women on TV. If you think an acting role is going to change anything, we need to reevaluate what we started with.

So she was the one that made that joke. And I was like, cool. Just wanted to make sure. But yeah, it is just acting.

And yeah, it was funny because it does feel like at moments it was getting back into The Bachelor because there's romantic scenes, there's moments, but then it's so different because it's just professional.

It's someone that you're working with.

And I thought it was so cool to marry what you felt on the show, but then now live in the character and try to make it feel as real as it did when it was on The Bachelor.

And I won't lie.

Like I had moments where I was like, I've been here before. This is a one-on-one with Kelsey. I am locked in right now, but it was in a scripted position. So then it's trying to find a way to have the character navigate how they would do it.

But I wonder if it probably helps that you're like lead, the lead woman, Jamie Chung is also like happily married.

You know what I mean?

I mean, I think anytime people do a movie with a co-lead, they always try to see if they have chemistry and how they flow together. And luckily Jamie and I like, From the beginning, her being so open and honest with me about what the experience would be like and helped me through it.

We just created trust.

Right away and had a very good working relationship where It did feel like it flowed and we had great chemistry on screen because we had fun working together. But yeah, as always, I mean, when you do something with someone, you want them to understand where you're coming from, your background. There's a lot of people that have seen me go and do other things and they always go, well, that's not Kelsey. How dare you go do something with someone else?

But that's our lives. Like we're going to keep doing our own things and supporting each other. It's going to be interesting to see people see me in another role. and have some type of romantic interest with someone other than Kelsey. But I'm hoping they can see it and realize like this is something he wants to look into and she's being supportive of it. And I think it's going to be cool to see the reaction, how people feel.

But Kelsey and I got a chance to sit down and watch it and she loved it. So that's all I know.

And that was fun.

I give her mad props. I would never be able to watch my husband do Dancing with the Stars or a love scene in a movie. It takes a strong, I think, people to be in the show business. Kelsey's like America's sweetheart, though.

Kelsey's like, I'm good.

I think from the beginning, like you said, it isn't a usual situation for people to be in a relationship. But we were lucky that our foundation was built off of people seeing and peeking into it and having their opinions. So we've spent a lot of time building our own foundation of just being confident in who we are and what we're doing and the outside world will have their opinions.

But I'm hoping people can watch this and just appreciate it for the movie and throw jokes, throw digs at the fact that like it's not Kelsey, but also be excited to see me do something new and something that I was really putting a lot of energy and effort into.

I'm sure Kelsey will have her fun with it.

There is zero doubts that people can expect Kelsey to throw some shade at me in my first acting opportunity.

That is just natural. It's who she is. If it doesn't come, I'd be like, did you actually watch the movie? Like, what's going on here?

I am curious, as the lead of The Bachelor, I've always wondered, because there has to be an element, because... You're dating 30 women or 20, whatever it was.

And you're having.

To go on dates and interact with people where you know you're not feeling the connection. But for the TV purpose and the storylines of it all, there is an element of... not acting, but almost acting where you're having to, you know, I always go back to my season and I'm like, oh, Ben must have been acting here because I know I was not getting the same attention the other.

Girls were getting. But there is like an element.

Of that that maybe you're able to channel like, okay, I can act a little bit.

Yeah, I think in a way, I wouldn't call anything that happened on The Bachelor as acting. I would say it was more getting comfortable with someone on camera and like creating some type of rapport that we can flow and have good conversation and make it very enjoyable for a viewer to watch because we're just naturally creating a safe space. I think that has probably transferred over to doing something like acting where you try to have an ability with your co-lead to like make them feel seen, make them enjoy being with you and diving into a character.

That's the only thing I could think that would be transferable because there were moments on the show where I could tell it wasn't getting there maybe.

With a girl.

Right.

Wanted them to feel seen and loved and heard when we were having conversations and make them like feel like they could be themselves and I think that was weird when I started acting I was like Of course, we're not together, but chemistry is someone feeling comfortable and feeling like they can just dive into what they're supposed to do in that scene. And I think that's the one thing I've taken from it that has flowed into it is just like, yeah, creating a warm space for someone just to kind of do what they're supposed to do.

So that was interesting that there was this familiarity of both of those, but. I do have to admit, like, I never acted. That was a different part of, like, knowing you have lines in the back of your head, knowing that you have to be giving some type of emotion, and sometimes it did feel like it was a date, or it did feel like it was just a walk and talk down the street, which I did on The Bachelor, but you're still thinking through it so differently, and it is crazy that there were similarities, but definitely a lot of differences.

You're so... You're such a nice guy.

You're so.

You're so good. I know, you're very beloved. Like, you're genuinely, like, very good.

Yeah.

And I do wonder.

If that was an advantage you had or a detriment to your Traders experiment?

I would love to sit here and give you guys so much info on Traders because it was the best thing ever. We're allowed to talk about the fact that I'm going on it, but that show, it was unbelievable. I just can't share anything about what happened on it until it gets closer.

Right, because it's.

Wrapped, but the season airs. When does it come out?

It's going to be sometime next year. Yeah, it'll be sometime next year, but... That show, as everyone knows, is a cultural movement. People are so excited about it. And because of that, like we can't talk about it until the time is right.

And I'm going to be with you guys.

It kills me that I can't like, I want to talk about how amazing that show was, but it's just one of those things.

I'm like, I'm, I'm tongue-tied right now. I can't tell you how great it was.

That's fine. You don't have to talk about what happens. But were you like a fan of the show?

That I can tell you, yeah.

Did you watch the UK, USA, is it Netherlands?

I think it's been all over now. And I think, I forget where it started, but it might have been Netherlands is actually where it started.

Did you do your research before going on?

I didn't do my research other than that I was a fan. That was all I did was I realized... going into that experience from doing bachelorette, from doing bachelor, from doing dance with the stars. I knew of those shows and I knew what the format was, but I actually wasn't an avid watcher. Like my sisters and my mom watched those shows and I knew of them because of them, but I wasn't like tuning in every single week.

The last few seasons of traders, I was tuning in.

Like I wanted to know what was happening every week. So when I went through that experience, it was so different where I had kind of like pinch me moments where I was like, Oh, I'm I'm on a show that I've like literally love and have watched and I learned to love the other shows. But this one was like so different that I did have some background of like watching it on my couch as a fan.

And now I was like in the experience. So that was really, really cool.

Did any of the other bachelors like Wells or Pilot Pete?

Wells was on for two seconds.

Did they give you any advice? He might have good advice being that he was on it for two seconds.

Wells' advice was don't be on it for two seconds. That was his advice. He's like do better than me. No, I sadly didn't get a chance to connect with Ari and Pete before.

Oh yeah, Ari.

Because also you have to know when you get that opportunity on the show you're not supposed to be letting people know you're going on the.

Show they keep it very like.

Tight knit luckily well it's just someone because we live in LA we hang out together all the time and he was asking me to like go on a golf trip and I was like hey man I'm gonna be out of town he's like where are you gonna be I was like I'm gonna go to Scotland he's like I know what's happening we need to talk so that was the only reason why I had any conversation with someone from that experience but Mostly, like I said, this is, it was such a crazy experience because it felt like I was going back to my bachelorette days of, I can't say anything.

Right.

This is something that is new to me. I experienced, but like, I have to stay hush right now. And I'm mad with you guys. I want to be able to talk about it.

We get it. We're not the podcast that's going to try and trick you.

We're not like trying to whatever. But we're just like everything that you do, we're obsessed with. Like Dancing with the Stars, check. Traders, check.

You're getting married. We love.

You're in a holiday rom-com. I mean, everything you're doing is like what we love to talk about.

I think we have similar interests and we're enjoying that we get to go through this together.

Yeah. By the way, before we move on from Traders.

No, I'm not moving on. Oh, okay.

Michelle from Survivor.

She's amazing. Michelle's unbelievable.

She's been away for a long time. She won Survivor a long time ago. So I am so excited to see her back.

She's the best.

I was going to ask about the cast because the cast was released. We know who's on the show. But was there anyone when you... Did you know anyone else who was going on or did you meet everyone once you got there?

No, you go there and you don't really know much when you get there.

So there was obviously people I've known before from doing different things, which was cool to see some familiar faces.

But also.

There was more people you didn't know. And the cast is amazing this year. Again, all I can say is, like, people need to watch it. It's just going to be an amazing season.

We have a great group of people. And I'm really excited to watch it back myself.

Like, I'm excited to see what happens because it's one of those things when you're in it, you know your story. You don't get to see it from everyone else's point of view. So I'm just excited to watch it back.

I'm excited. We're very excited.

I've watched every single season like multiple times. It's like sick. I have an obsession.

Yeah. She does.

She goes deep.

I go deep.

Yeah. I want to talk about Dancing with the Stars.

Yes.

Because I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I felt like your season specifically, it was kind of a season that really brought people.

Into the show and made it almost like.

I've always felt like it's had a huge fan base, but I do feel like that season was a turning point for the show a little bit where a lot of younger people started tuning in and it just almost felt like with TikTok and everything, it kind of had its.

It really grew. And it was so positive.

I felt like there was so much joy and excitement around it. And I feel like this season, there's been a little bit of.

Negativity and.

criticism and tension and I'm wondering how it's felt for you to see that from the outside having done it and had such a wonderful experience.

Yeah I mean it's no surprise I've always spoke so highly on my experience of Dancing with the Stars because it opened up a new world for me gave me like the best experience ever to just put your head down and try to do something as niche as ballroom dancing on live television for two months like the idea of the show to me is so loving and fun and friendly and exciting because you get to put someone that's never been in this situation into a ballroom and see how they handle pressure. And at the end of the day, we're dancing with rhinestones and sparkles to hit pop songs and doing a classical style of dance. Like the idea of it, when you put it on paper, they even talk about it. The execs do from the show.

If you look at it, you're like, this is the most ridiculous idea ever. Like, how is this going to be successful? But it works because there's something about it that is so inviting.

And I think you're right. I was so lucky.

Our season started to bring a really big online presence. I think that had to do with Riley the year before. I think it had to do with Alona on our season, me coming off from starting to be active on socials. We just had a lot of people that knew how to bring in a younger audience. And the show was so grateful for that. And it's compounded. The next year, having someone like Alex Earl, having someone like Dylan Efron, having these people that, and Jordan Childs, like so many people that were so great at bringing more online presence.

This is just sadly what comes with it, that when people are online, no matter what comment section you go on, if it's your biggest star, your biggest fan that you want to watch, they're going to have negativity in there. And how I've been taking it is it is getting lost. I think the plot sometimes, I wish it did stick and focus on how great and fun the experience is.

But with more viewers comes more criticism.

And I think that is the beauty of the show where people do have opinions, but I hope that we can continue to focus on the good parts of it and, and, and trying to see how, how fun it can be for someone. My favorite comment that I've seen so far, my favorite, I guess, um, person that posts about it was Harry Trump gave a, like when it was at its highest, I feel like, and there was a lot of parody. He just made a post saying everything he loved about every contestant that.

Was on the show. And I thought that was perfect.

I thought that was a good way to at least let it be known that, yeah, we are seeing there's maybe more criticism we've seen in the past, but let's maybe shift our focus to on the good stuff. And I have nothing but utter faith the show will continue to push that and they will find their way through maybe some of this, yeah, discourse or negativity that's come in recently, but- I just know that the people that are putting it on, the people that are in it, have the best intentions that it will push through whatever has been kind of being maybe a little.

Bit of negativity.

I mean, even the best of us are feeding into it. Like, I get really heated.

About— Because you care, and that's great.

Yeah, so people are like— well, I mean, he's gone now, Guillermo. But, like, they were, like, bashing him all the time. And I'm like, it's not called— the best dancing star. It's like dancing with the stars and he's entertaining us. So leave him alone.

You can't watch that show and see that Guillermo had a place on that show and was maybe one of the best.

Parts of every week.

But people were so mad that he kept staying. And I'm like, get a life.

There is always going to be people that are non-dancers, people that have dance experience, and maybe people that are incapable of getting to a certain level and a certain point. That is part of, like, they do that on purpose. That is part of what the show is. You're supposed to have the judges in the fandom not always agree.

You're supposed to have people that are your favorites and people you're like, I just don't know how they're still here. If there was no discourse or people that are changing opinions, then you would just leave there being like, well, I know what's going to happen every week. Like that is what is good about reality TV. And I hope people can see that and start to like enjoy. it and have your opinions but stay kind that's always what I push is just stay kind.

Do you still keep in touch with Jenna Johnson?

Of course I do. How would you not keep in touch with Jenna?

Is she going to choreograph your first dance with your fiancé?

We need to clear this up, too.

I hope that Jenna and Val will be involved somehow in our dance and making us look better. But, like, people think I'm going to do, like, an Argentine tango or, like, going to do some type of samba.

Like, it's a slow dance.

I'm also not going to be worried about my elbows in frame with Kelsey while we're dancing.

No, no.

No, but you're going to want to like make it nice.

I think we'll have definitely some tips and some help to make it smooth. But also like the more I thought about it and when people bring it up, I think they really like think it's going to be like a spectacle.

I can promise you it is not.

It's going to be an intimate moment where we picked a song that we're so excited about that we're going to dance to and just be able to like that's I think of that moment is like that is a moment that is just you two and you get to enjoy the space together. And the last thing I want is to have choreography that we have to think about because I don't want to put that on Kelsey. I don't know what her ability is still. I have not seen her in those stressful moments. I want that to be a special moment. So we will take tips. And if Jenna and Val want to continue to help, we will obviously take a dance class with them. But no Argentine tangles will be happening.

As somebody who had a first dance, I wish... I just felt like we were just standing there moving side to side.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I wish we had like a twirl or like some sort of a dip or some sort of.

We need moves.

Yeah, yeah.

I think you need to have.

There won't be a lift because we don't need Carrie Ann commenting on that either.

But no, I'm kidding.

We just need to find a way to have some type of movements that flow. Then you go back to your safe space of just kind of swaying through the dance floor.

But no, I've seen actually... You know who would.

Danny and Pasha teach those classes, did a while ago, and they're, like, free time. And they have, if you look on their Instagram sometimes, they, like, will do, like, these are the four dance moves you should do with your significant other, and they have it down.

It's, like, very easy, but also very simplistic.

Right.

It doesn't look like it's showman in any way.

Right, right.

But it's also a really nice touch. And then you just go right back to a normal hold after. So we will find ways to add those, whether it's going to be Jenna, Val, Danny, and Pasha.

I have a lot of pros at my disposal that I'm friends with. You think I'm not asking them questions when it comes that time? Of course I will.

I want the Tarzan dance.

Yeah, I mean, that was the first thing Kelsey said.

She's like, if we are going to start getting choreographed, then you better believe that we're throwing the samba out there. And I don't think I could do that dance again. I don't even remember how to do a promenade run.

It's in my head.

I know what it was, but that, yeah, that dance was so fun and I just don't think I need to be in a loincloth and shirtless at my wedding.

But speaking of your Rolodex, I feel like you have a lot of friends. She has a lot of friends. Was making the wedding guest list hard?

It's still in the process. Like we've sent out all the stated dates. We're getting on our invites again soon. And it's just hard because of course we've been so lucky to be connected with so many amazing people.

And I want everyone to be there and share that moment.

But the place that we chose does have a strict number on certain aspects of what we're going to be doing.

And Yeah, all I can say is I want everyone there. It's just I can't. What's the cap?

Right now, I think we're getting closer to... I can't even tell you the cap because I think we're trying to adjust it. But it's like somewhere... We're in the 200 range is where we're at. So it's not like it's crazy.

It's like the space.

Can only hold so many people.

I didn't realize the amount of logistics that go into planning a wedding. And yeah, there's still some numbers that I think we want to have as many people there as possible.

But.

sadly it doesn't doesn't work that.

Way 200 comes at you fast it does especially we have big families and we have like obviously friends I've lived all over I got friends from Hawaii Nashville Philly and now LA we've obviously met so many amazing people and now what we do so it's tough like the list was not easy to to get to that number but it's it's evolving I would say that's why we get.

The invites out Who's been more into the details of the wedding planning? Has it been an equal shared or has Kelsey been like, I'll take it on in you?

She says I'm the one that does the most, which I think is surprising because I think I'm just I'm there.

I'm active. I'm involved.

But I think for me, all the stuff we've been doing so far has been more, like I said, logistical, bigger things that we have to figure out. from venue to decisions that are going to be, I think, in terms of the budget. I've been very involved in that side of it because I feel like I need to know how much we actually are going to be spending on this. So that I've been very involved in, but now we're getting into more of those details of like, what's the place setting going to be?

What's the color? What's the vibe? And I'm just like, I'm sitting there with like twiddling my thumbs.

Like I don't know anything. And I, they laugh at me. Our wedding planner, her sometimes when I do add something, they're like, yeah, that's not going to happen.

Like, you're right. I don't know anything. I'm just trying to still stay involved.

It's like when Monica and Chandler have like the wedding binder and she's like, do you want roses or lilies? And he's like roses. And she's like, Or Lily.

Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to in any way try to be, I want it to still feel like both of our days, but I know she's the one that has taste and she knows what she's doing. I'm just going to make sure that we are keeping everything in line and we just want to have a really fun weekend with our friends and family.

Are you televising your wedding?

No, we are not.

No, we just like when we did the reproposal, like we want to have this be a moment for us. Like we know what our base was and what how we got here. And we're so grateful for it. And we'll definitely be talked about on that day.

And we'll be grateful for it, too. But yeah, I like this to be just for us.

So I do think I think if you were to like televise it, then you'd have like other people's opinions and other people saying like, oh, you need to do it this way. And then it just kind of becomes... It's just.

Part of it, you know?

If you're going to decide to televise it, there needs to be a production crew. There needs to be certain things that are locked to how it's going to look. And it's been a while. The last TV wedding we had was the Golden Wedding, and I.

Went to it.

So I got to see what it was like, and I realized quickly, like, I don't think I need this to be my wedding if we get here one day.

Yeah.

Do you have....

Any have you shared anything about are y'all where you're doing it or.

Yeah we we shared uh just a little bit for it where it's going to be spring of next year and it's going to be in Louisiana that's all that's all we've shared so far so yeah it's coming it's going to be here before we know it I feel like the date felt very far away and that was on purpose so we didn't feel like we were rushing through anything and we continue to ask our wedding planner like are we still on time because it feels like it's almost here and he's like no no you're good we're good we're chugging along so We're still on time.

We're still doing everything the best we can, but I just can't wait for.

It to be here.

I mean, I feel like America loves you guys so much, and y'all are so beloved, and y'all are so funny, and Kelsey's so funny and her running your Instagram while you were.

Gone was just.

She's doing it now.

No, I'm back. Don't worry.

She still has full autonomy to use it whenever she wants.

I never got the passwords back.

So like just know moving forward that sometimes she might go rogue and just post something and I'm fully aware and ready for it. It was actually my idea when we left because we had something that we had the joint post. So I knew I need to give her access to it. And I was like, well, I'm going to be gone. I don't have access to my phone.

If you want to have fun so my Instagram's just not dead for a bit, by all means, go ahead. Did not know what that meant. Did not know what I opened up. The idea of that casting photo and how I just looked in it. I did not like that photo. And she knew I would not like that photo. And she just ran with it. It just became a running meme. And good for her. Because, yeah, she's funnier than I am.

So she knows how to do it.

When The Traitors airs back, are you allowed to have your phone in post?

Whenever you are done with filming and you come, they will give you your phone.

Oh, so it was just for the filming that you couldn't.

When you're filming during that entire time, you're off the grid. You're not allowed to be in any appearances. You're not allowed to be on your phone just because it's supposed to be just for the show.

Got it.

I personally didn't see that she had taken over, so I saw you posting, and I was.

Like, what? Is he good? Like, this is so funny, but like, what's going on? And then I saw it. I was like, this makes all the sense.

I thought that was the best part of it is like half of the people were in the bit.

Half the people weren't.

I think she had like a story takeover she did with my sister at one time. And then people like, okay, like she obviously is running his account right now. But some people miss that. And then, yeah, you know, there's also like someone that's a little bit older that's following me that doesn't compute to them.

Like this can only be Joey. But yeah, she's putting a picture of.

Me napping when I fell asleep on the couch with the heart bubbles above her. And it's a picture of her. And it's like dreaming about my fiance as I'm not here. And people literally would comment being like, this is so sweet of you, Joey.

I'm like, what?

You really think I would do this? Like, of course I feel that way, but this is out there.

If you read the fine print, you got to know this is not me.

But it was awesome.

I mean, I think moving forward, anytime I have to promote something, Kelsey will probably take over my Instagram.

I think it's going to be a strategy now.

Yeah, it's very smart.

It works. It's very important that you do that. I was going to ask about the re-proposing idea. Was that something– like, obviously when you propose, it's such a whirlwind, and you're still– I mean, I remember by the end, being in the final two, I was like, I've barely spent time with this person. And so you're getting engaged and you are like, I can't wait for more. But was there always an idea that you wanted to repropose and do it your way?

Yeah, we talked about it right when we got off the show, just because even from back to the show, getting proposed in that timeline, in that setting, we wanted to have strong weight to it. We wanted to explain like, okay, we don't have to get engaged. We could just end together. But if we get to this point, do you want to, what does it mean to you? And we both said it was a promise to one another that we see it getting here, but we need to reset when we get out of it and focus on building a relationship outside of this experience because this is a bubble. And then when that happened, we saw other people from the past in the franchise do that. They decided to get another ring to kind of re-promise each other. And I

think the biggest thing for Kelsey was I wanted it to have more weight this time, even without losing the importance of the other one, because every girl deserves, as she loved to say, to be in her fiance era. Like people, I think the only negativity we got from our post-show time is everyone's like, this is a long engagement.

This is a long engagement. But we talked about that.

But I know as anyone, if you're engage with someone for three years, like it's going to feel like, man, like that was a long time.

I wanted that reset for her.

I wanted her to have that ability to not only pick out a ring that was fully hers and unique to her, but also like get that excitement of we're, we're getting married in a year. So the timing was perfect. It was almost a year in advance of when it was going to be. And it just was a really good time to promise one another again, that we see the same things we did when we got engaged that day back in Mexico. And We did it again in a different spot in Mexico. And yeah, it just was a good reaffirmation for us.

It's so beautiful.

I know we're talking a lot about wedding, but I feel like, okay, so you have... The holiday spark comes out in November. Then you have the traders coming out in January. Then you're getting married sometime in the spring. Then what's next? What are you focusing on?

I don't know if I can think that much ahead right now. It's just like six months from now.

You just named like three things that are very important to me over these next six months. I knew with a lot of things that were coming through the pipeline over the last few months from filming this movie back earlier this year, from getting the opportunity to do Traders, and most importantly, to continue to focus on planning this important day for Kelsey and I, like that was where my, I think normal timeline was ending where let me just like really focus on getting through this. And then after it kind of have that shift of, okay, let's also look back at what happened. How did you feel about all these different experiences? How did the world look at these experiences? and then go through what you want to

do next. I am more open than ever right now that I know I want to continue to do something in entertainment, but I don't know exactly where it's going to lead.

I love doing this movie.

I think scripted is something that is so exciting and so new to me that I fell in love with the art of it. I fell in love with really playing a character and trying to make it believable and honest and still feel like something I could look back on and be proud of like other things I've done.

I don't know if I got more reality TV than me.

It is a lot to continue to do all these different shows, but I'm never going to say no to an experience again that could challenge me like all these have. And then in terms of Kelsey and I, like, I just can't wait to take that next step and figure out what's more going to happen in our lives. Like that's a person I want to continue to do things with and continue to experience life with.

And I don't think anything's going to change.

It's just going to be another step towards where we're going to kind of continue to see ourselves and, And of course, like we want kids. We want to buy our first home. We want to take these huge steps. But as for like personal and professionally, like I am very open. I loved hosting. I've loved doing new experience with shows.

And now this idea of scripted is so exciting.

And for Roku to take a chance on me to actually see what this could be has been really, really eye opening that it's something I would be.

Open to doing more of.

So where did you film that?

We filmed it in Atlanta.

Okay, what time of year was it?

It was hot.

I don't know if you can believe that it was cold when we were watching that movie, but it was being in a full fireman's outfit in April time in Atlanta.

It was steamy.

But it was funny because we had to walk in scenes and kind of be cold with your hands.

And you're sweating.

It's like 80 degrees outside right now. But it was really fun. It was a cool experience to go to Atlanta. I haven't spent a lot of time there. And yeah, it was a great place to film it.

Would you ever do Special Forces?

I would be open in a way.

Becca's obsessed with this show right now.

She's like, people love it. I love asking people. I love watching it.

I do, too. I do, too.

But it's such a specific type of reality show. Like, it's not like, you know, Dancing with the Stars, I think, is actually very physically demanding. But still, there's like the element of glam and like you're at home.

I mean, you're in a, you know, comfortable space.

Special forces is so fascinating to me because I'm like, you're putting people in like the worst condition.

When you're looking at them, they have bug bites all over them.

And I'm like, obviously it's an opportunity and it's, it's financially lucrative, but I'm always curious to ask people if they would be interested.

I usually don't say like no way to anything.

It's not something I think I'm actively looking to do, but I also don't think it's like an automatic no. I've had friends that have done it. Tyler has done it. I've talked to Hannah Brown about doing it. I talked to Nick Vial about doing it. Like even on our season of Dancing with the Stars, we had Danny Amendola and Dwight Howard that did it. And those two didn't even make it to the end and win. Like the other three that I talked about, they decided to quit at a certain point. And they still said it was an amazing experience. So I think it's one of those things that you never want to say no. I just have to be in the right mindset that it's something I really want to do because if you ever think

about a show that you need to be ready for or like mentally committed to, that is the show.

You can't go and be like, all right, I'm going to see how this goes.

Like you're doing some of the most difficult tasks possible and putting yourself through the ringer. And yeah, I just would need to be in the headspace and the mindset that it felt like it was something I really want to do and haven't gotten to that point yet.

So we'll see.

I also feel like you have to be like, You're a winner. You're just a winner. You win everything.

Thank you.

Thank you for saying that. You're a winner.

I do think people go on there and they're like, I'm just going to go get my check because I think you just kind of get the flat rate to go.

And then after a day or a couple hours, they're like, okay.

My mindset with all of that has been the reason you're getting a check is because you're supposed to fully commit to what they're asking you to do and try to do your best through it. I'm very lucky that the other experience I've had has gotten me to the point to actually be successful in it.

But all I know is that if I'm doing something, I'm doing it full force. I'm committing.

And sometimes to a fault, whatever it's going to be, I'm going to make sure every day I'm showing up and giving my all. And that is a very big ask out of a show like that is to commit and do it. So I get why people have that mindset, but if I'm doing something, I'm doing it.

That's what I'm saying. That's a show that's hard.

But also like everything that you do, I feel like, you know, like you're going to shoot a movie in Atlanta for how long was the shoot?

It was about like a little bit. It was around a month. It was a pretty quick shoot.

But it's like you go, you do that, you have to like fully immerse in that. Then you go and you do Dancing with the Stars. You're dancing every single day for however many weeks that you last. Then you go and you do Traitors. You have to like fully immerse yourself into like this game. It's like a lot of mental load.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of the fun thing like mindset of all these different experiences is you don't know what it's going to be like.

You go into it. And I love being in uncomfortable situations. I love learning. I love challenging myself. What's your sign? I'm a Gemini. Yeah, I know.

That's usually the response I get. She judged me immediately after that. If you didn't see that.

I watched.

I felt uncomfortable. I think it's fun to continue to challenge yourself.

I really do. I've enjoyed that.

I don't know why I enjoy doing it while also millions of people get to judge me as I challenge myself, but it's worked so far. So I'm going to continue to be open to experiences and learning from them and just seeing where they continue to take me.

I'm curious, getting the opportunity to do the traders, because I know I'm joking about you, but you literally do win everything. Like, you... Didn't win The Bachelor at, but you won in a different way because you became The Bachelor.

Got the, everyone's dream girl.

Everyone's dream girl.

You've gone dancing with the stars. You went dancing with the stars. Going on Traders, did you feel that? Obviously, we don't know where you landed.

The mojo. The mojo is probably high.

I think all I would say is I've been very like, I've experienced so much reality that I am very aware of like, if I'm going to do something. I want to make sure it's going to fill my cup up as much as it does theirs. And for traders in general, I just was excited to go on. So I didn't really think about what would happen or anything like that.

It just was a show I was really a fan of. And yeah, I mean, we will see if my winning streak continues. But at the end of the day, it's just like, it was a really fun experience.

Okay.

I love that. I love you guys trying to get anything.

Out of me.

I'm going to be here.

When it airs and you can talk about it, you have to come back on because I like.

Love, like love talking about it.

When I am able to start talking about the show, like I'm really excited to do it because it was an amazing experience and there is so much to talk about doing something like that.

So yeah, I'll come back again. You guys, I love being here.

Just like the headspace. I had lunch with Lisa Rinna a couple of weeks ago and I was just like, literally, not just me and her, we were like at a lunch together. And I was just like, I gave her a barrage of questions because I was just so fascinated with the psyche that comes from that show.

It's definitely something that anyone that goes on has something to say about because you're in a different situation there.

Are you still doing tennis and coaching?

Yeah, I got a chance to go to the Tennis Hall of Fame a little bit earlier this year for Roger Federer's induction, which was really cool. Anytime I get to do something in that space, it kind of feels like home. I'll be going to the Bahamas a little bit later this year to do another tennis pro-am. I did that last year too. So fun way to like get on court and just play again. And it's mostly just friendly. I think my competitive juices don't allow me to be friendly on the tennis court sometimes.

I want to win still.

But no, I love any time I get the chance to morph my world with tennis because I do think it was the catalyst for everything. Like I know I would not be here today if I wasn't a teaching tennis pro.

It's just... It opened up a lot of doors for me.

I never thought it would open up the door of me being on reality TV and being in a movie.

It made you so personable.

I think it just puts you in a situation.

You meet different people. You learn how to communicate with them. I always said my job as a tennis pro was be the most fun hour of their day. Like how can I make when they come on court, live with it and be like, this was, this was one of the best things I did today. That's your job in hospitality. And I loved it and I miss it at times.

So now when I get to play tennis, it kind of reminds me of that comfort of what my life was like. Before I got a little crazy recently.

You can always put your kids in tennis.

It will happen. Are you kidding me?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

Again, either boy or girl, they will be playing.

Yeah, it's a nice, safe sport, too.

It's great.

No, I think it teaches you a lot of life lessons, too. You won't meet a tennis player that hasn't quit. Every tennis player gets to the point where it's such a grueling sport that at one point they're like, I'm done. But they always find their way back to it because there's a love-hate relationship with such an interesting sport like that.

But it gave me a lot.

I can't remember if last time you were here, if you had completed your bucket list.

Yeah.

But have you started it?

Like once you complete a bucket list, that feels like a big deal, but are you, have you started another one?

I'm open to it. Yeah.

No, when we, when I came on here last time, uh, one of the things I put on my bucket list was learning how to dance was like my little nugget to people and saying like, Hey, I'm doing dance with the stars and I can't tell you.

But yeah, I put it on the list.

Um, and I didn't mark that off the list until I did dancing with the stars. And I think after Dancing with the Stars, I still had like 20 something things left out of the 30 and had like six months to do it.

So that was a little hard, but it was really cool.

I think what I love most about that was not only challenge myself to try to do something in a short period of time and do all these things I wanted to do, but it was also really interesting to see how much people resonated with it. And they thought it kind of, the amount of tags I got of people doing their own bucket list and saying they were inspired by it and finding ways to push themselves to do something in a timeline. I thought that was the coolest thing I didn't even expect from it. It was just for me a way to like keep myself accountable and do something fun.

But I've thought about it. I mean, I'm 31 now.

I think if I do another one, it probably won't be that tight of a timeline, even though I'm sure people love that and that was part of the excitement.

I think.

I'm open to doing another one at some point.

And again, just keeping myself accountable to do some things I really want to do.

You'll do 40 and you have nine years.

To do it. That's what I'm saying. You got to figure it out.

I don't know if nine years of people will stay engaged, but if they will, I will do a 40 before I turn 40.

If anyone can keep the peace. It's you, Joey.

I appreciate you guys. Joey, thank you so much for your time today. Everybody check out the Holiday Spark premiering on the Roku channel on November 2nd. Traders coming next year. Wedding next year.

I'm booked and busy.

Yeah, we can't wait to see it all.

Thank you guys.

We're such fans. We love you.

No, I love you guys. Thank you for having me.

The Holiday Scrub with Joey Graziadei

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