Musk For The Children, Nathan Heals America? 10.21.26

0:05 What kind of scarf is that? What's the scarf say?

0:07 It's an Atlanta Thrashers scarf. Y'all remember the Thrashers? One of the worst teams in NHL history. Hockey's not real. My girlfriend likes hockey. It's not really my game, but I mean, I like that they fight.

0:20 That's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:21 Sure. There's that.

0:22 I think I would like he did rivalry more if it was just about fighting and less about gay sex, actually.

0:28 UFC heated rivalry would do incredibly well. Yeah.

0:31 No, if it was, if it was switched, if it was like two guys that have gay sex, but they secretly want to fight each other all the time, you know, that would be my kind of attraction.

0:42 And sex part is there. It's the tension.

0:45 Yeah.

0:45 When are they going to fuck each other up?

0:47 Yeah. Yeah. The tension about the brutality.

0:50 Yeah. Yeah. What'd you say about my fucking jeans dog?

0:54 Dude, why are you pacing? Is this a new thing? You stand up.

0:58 For the show? I'm fucking thinking about this heated rivalry shit, bro.

1:03 I'm fucking heated about this rivalry.

1:05 After I kiss you, bro. Damn it. I went to smack the shit out of you. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 461, episode 3 of Dirty Lee's Zeitgeist!

1:24 Yeah!

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1:30 Really?

1:31 Through the day's news. Oh. What's happening? What's going on here, people? We also have a non-news history version of TDZ dropping each Monday morning called The Iconograph, where we do a deep dive into the Zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon. And we are right in the heart of it. of our Fright Cons. We have done Dracula. We've done Hannibal Lecter. We've done, now, ghosts. Ghosts. Ghosts. And, yeah, we got one more spooky character coming up. It's been a lot of fun. You can check those out. They drop every Monday morning. They have Icon in the title.

2:15 But here... today it is wednesday october 21st 2026.

2:20 Big day it's national reptile day shout out all the politicians on capitol hill we love you people uh national billy evans.

2:30 Also because spoiler alert all of a sudden yeah once he went Yeah, once he went off, there's a moment in You Can See Everything. Once Mom Wasn't Home. Where, yeah, it flashes forward to two years into her prison term. Is this a spoiler? I don't think so. It's not one of the big ones.

2:52 But I think if you want to just skip forward 15 seconds right now.

2:56 Yeah, it cuts to him and he's into guns and reptiles all of a sudden. And it's just like, oh, man, I feel like I feel like that's good foreshadowing for where things are going. He also gets a little he also has a minor cold, I feel like. Dude, I think he's sniffing cocaine, bro. Wait, what?

3:15 Yeah.

3:15 Come on, baby. Anyways. No, I feel like it's hot.

3:20 I feel like we might skip ahead to it later, but you can see everything as a very good nuke Austin, Texas movie.

3:29 I apologize for my Austin. I love Austin, Texas. I'm sorry what they're doing to the place.

3:34 Yeah, for sure. This is what's collecting there on the outskirts.

3:39 Yeah, what Austin, Texas does to a motherfucker.

3:43 So that's it. National Reptile Day. Let's go with that. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Count Jackula, a.k.a. Hannibal Jackter, a.k.a.

3:51 The Jackknife, a.k.a.

3:54 The Jackhammer, because there is a movie called The Jackhammer Killer about somebody who kills people with a jackhammer. And truly, the climax of the movie is that he is thwarted because The person runs too far away from him to plug in his jackhammer, and so he just can't use his weapon.

4:18 Do they not run on gas?

4:19 This one does not. They're just plugged in? Yeah, it's a plug-in. It just goes off 110. Hang on.

4:25 That doesn't make any sense to me.

4:27 Also, Jack-O-Bantern. Those are my Treehouse of Horror spooky AKAs, and I hope they aren't too scary. for you guys i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray hey it's miles gray.

4:42 Yuck it's the lord of lancashire the shogun no gun okay you got guns you're gonna have gun problems however thank you it's good to see you here today and i'm not seeing you i'm talking to the two people i'm talking to today it's good to see the both of you today and i'm glad to i'm glad and thank you for inviting us into your ears today.

4:58 Well yeah we won't disappoint you Oh, my God. That seems... I feel like I will disappoint you, but... Oh, God. Way to set the stage. Yeah. What were first dates like? So just FYI, a couple things to know about me up front. I do things a little bit differently around here. Have you dined with us before?

5:21 Oh, awesome.

5:21 We're thrilled.

5:22 October 21st is Back to the Future Day. This is the day Marty McFly goes into the future.

5:26 Oh, shit. Into the future?

5:28 Yep.

5:28 Or into the past. Into the future. This is Back to the Future 2? Mm-hmm. So it's Back to the Future 2 Day. Oh, no, no. No, sorry. To the past. You're right.

5:35 Yes.

5:36 To the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any time travel. That shit's futuristic. Back to the future. Back to the future. Going to go jack in time. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests, an artist, creator of music that's been described as hypnagogic power violence. Please welcome back to the show from the Janie Danger Massacre. It's Janie Danger!

6:00 Hey, thanks so much for having me.

6:03 I wish I could have thought of something better than Janie Danger Massacre, but I already have danger in the name and that implies... yeah some kind of threat already so i don't really know.

6:13 Danger does a lot of work it does a lot of work.

6:16 Danger does a lot of work in the society for sure yeah.

6:19 In this society in this economy.

6:22 And invest in danger coin it's going to the fucking moon.

6:26 To the moon it's actually just my cell yeah janey what's your key doom What is that?

6:33 Is that an Austin, Texas term? I'm not familiar with it.

6:35 That's a Silicon Valley term that's like, how likely do you think it is that AI is going to end humanity? It's called P-Doom? of people who are like, we're actually kind of the gods of this world because we can speak about the world in terms of Bayesian economics and statistics. Bayesian?

7:07 Isn't that the girl that testified against Manson?

7:11 Bayesian? Janey, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. I'm thrilled to be here.

7:20 Do I get like a challenge coin? This is like my maybe fifth or sixth time.

7:24 Yeah, we need to get you a jacket.

7:26 That'd be dope. Do y'all have jackets?

7:28 No, we don't. I'm just saying, where the fuck are we going?

7:31 Do you actually not have merch?

7:33 We had merch, dude. We had merch for a while.

7:35 We're not good at like that part.

7:37 You're like Fugazi. You're like, we're all about the product, the music, the ethos.

7:45 We're spread thin. We don't sell merch. That's bad, too, unfortunately.

7:49 Tickets to our shows are only $ 5, and they're always all ages. Kind of like that.

7:54 Yeah.

7:54 I'd like to say that's what it is.

7:56 I've been calling y'all the Fugazi of podcasts.

8:00 God, if only we could have a mashup album with Wu-Tang like Fugazi did.

8:04 Wu-Gazi, yeah.

8:05 Yeah, that was great.

8:07 Yeah, shit's sick. I don't think they officially made that, but whoever did, it's cool.

8:10 No, I know, but to be... even a texture. You know what I was thinking?

8:14 That's a good pull. I remember listening to that. Woo, guys, he's so dope.

8:18 The other thing I was thinking, like, you know, for people that are, like, I was talking with one of my homegirls, and they were talking about how, like, they're like, you know, like, I'm on the brink of becoming woo-woo right now. Like, I don't know what the fuck's going on with me. And I was like, that's a cool, just two woo-tang Ws. And if you know, you're woo-woo.

8:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

8:36 I'm about to subscribe to Brianna Woo's sub-stock.

8:39 Yeah.

8:45 Janey we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about elon musk has announced a plan to gift spacex shares to every child in america and people are covering that as if it's something that will actually happen so we'll talk about that because they won't uh we'll talk about a uh total hot dog recall there's another big Food recall, we'll just check in with food recalls.

9:09 Why so many food recalls? Hey, what's happening? Disney has gotten the memo and have figured out what to do with Star Wars next. And that is they're going to do a version of the Super Bowl where Star Wars cartoons are playing the Super Bowl.

9:27 And almost like any property owned by Disney, it looks like. So you could even be like Milhouse could be out there getting CTE tickets.

9:35 They've done that. So they've done that in the past. They've done regular season games with Simpsons characters, which I'm fine with. Oh, I see.

9:42 I see.

9:42 I think there's like, yeah. This is really putting their foot on the Star Wars pedal.

9:46 Yeah.

9:47 I think there's some, you know, IP that is good. Like when you just like throw some, throw a Homer Simpson skin on the body of, you NFL quarterback and it's like, wow, look, Homer just threw that touchdown. I'm like, yeah, man. That's fun. That's what I want. But Star Wars, for some reason, just feels like they keep fucking up.

10:13 Does it look like when they put a Homer Simpson in Fortnite where.

10:19 I think it's similar to that. How did that go over? Well, this one is more cartoonish.

10:24 They took out Peter Griffin, but Homer's still there. I still have my jigsaw skin, so that's really what matters.

10:32 They look more like Funko Popgolf. I don't think that's a Disney property yet. It'll be one of the two companies' properties eventually.

10:40 What's the other one?

10:42 Paramount Skydance, Warner Brothers, Discovery.

10:46 Frito-Lay and Disney. HGTV, Paramount, VH1. Penguin Publishing.

10:51 Yeah. HarperCollins, Northrop Grumman. The publishing industry really took over everything, weirdly.

10:56 Yeah.

10:57 And then we'll talk about You Can See Everything, because it is a hit at the box office, but it's also popular with the right. It's popular with the left. We'll look at some of the responses. We'll have a little five-second chunk where we'll speak about the movie with spoilers. Mm-hmm. And so we'll get plenty of warning on that. We'll get plenty more. All that, plenty more. But first, Janie, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

11:27 Okay. Y'all, I'm not going to lie.

11:29 I always get a little nervous when I'm looking this up because I kind of don't know what to say. Do you mind if I just read off a few and you guys pick the interesting ones?

11:37 Sure.

11:37 You always got some interesting shit cooking up.

11:41 All right.

11:41 So I just wrote down a few that were notable to me. Hello Kitty Island Adventure, Trying to Remember the Name of Michael Winslow, General Tso's Pizza Rolls, Best Emo Albums List That Pissed Me Off, a lot of Misfits lyrics for a Misfits cover set we're doing on October 29th at the Drunken Unicorn in Atlanta, Steve Harvey, and the Mexican National Anthem.

12:10 Hmm. I got to know. My two picks are... Let's each pick a couple. Okay, Jack, you pick first. Okay, I was going to go General Tso's Pizza Rolls. You pick one. I got to pick one. Okay, and I'll do the next one. Okay, tell us about General.

12:22 Tso's Pizza Rolls. Okay, so my girlfriend was craving Chinese food the other night after we had came home from a Halloween parade after a few drinks in the middle of the day.

12:34 And I was like, baby, we.

12:36 Should not door dash anything right now Um, cause we don't have any money and she was like, I was like, okay, hang on. We had some dumplings from. Trader Joe's or Costco. I can't remember Costco dumplings actually. And I was trying to remember a simple general so's recipe I saw. And I remember it was from this, uh, Instagram account. I like, there's a few actually that basically cook, uh, what's called like line cook meals. where it's like you get someone who's like a line cook who comes home and they drink like a bottle of like Fernet and Malort and make like trashy delicious food.

13:20 Is it that one account where the dude is like throwing bottles across his kitchen?

13:23 Yeah, he's like throwing highlights across there.

13:25 Yeah, I've seen that one. He's like, fuck, and just like stabbing a can.

13:28 Yeah, I don't know if it was specifically that one, but because there's a handful of these like popping up. Ever since The Bear, line cooks have been having a moment, which, I mean, you know, shouts out to them, shouts out to them. But I was trying to remember what his simple General Tso's sauce recipe was, and... I followed it more or less.

13:52 And you know what? Pretty damn good.

13:54 So you use the sauce and put it on and you like tossed pizza rolls in it.

13:58 No, I tossed a Costco, uh, chicken vegetable dumplings in it, which was a lot tastier. I do not like pizza rolls. I think they're really gross.

14:07 Sure.

14:07 Um, I, but I remember he made them with, uh, freezer burnt pizza rolls. And that was like how the General Tso's recipe stuck.

14:17 In my brain.

14:18 That'll do it.

14:19 Was from pizza rolls. So I looked that up and I said, thank.

14:22 You, chef. Thank you, chef. Yes, chef. Oui, chef.

14:26 And what was the other one?

14:28 The other one, I was just curious, why Michael Winslow?

14:31 Because Michael Winslow is one of my favorite characters from the 80s.

14:35 One of my friends was making that weird... Can any of y'all do that where you make like a.

14:42 Yeah, the water drop. You fling the corner of your mouth while making a little O with your mouth. Let me fucking go. And I told... Oh, my God. That was not pulled off the internet.

14:54 That wasn't a macOS system sound called water drop or.

14:57 Whatever the fuck. No, that was... Wow, yeah.

15:02 Boom. Wow, you can do it from the bottom? Bro, you could do it. I used to do it like... Watch, I'll hit my head. What the fuck? Watch, this one's the chest. I'm going to beat my chest and do it.

15:15 Wow, it's a shame this is an audio-only format.

15:18 They're going to think you just have a soundboard.

15:23 No, this needs to be the only Instagram clip for a week.

15:26 Okay. And you're the one who just said Michael Winslow is one of your favorites.

15:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cadet Larvell Jones to you.

15:33 What was his name, Larvell Jones?

15:35 His name was Larvell.

15:37 Wow, that sounds like a blood-borne NPC.

15:39 Yeah.

15:40 He's like, I will purify your blood. My name is Larvel. Larvel.

15:49 Yeah, literally, I just couldn't remember his name, and I just... He's a funny person, because I remember seeing him all over... Like, it seemed like any time a talk show or a TV show needed to kill, like, 10, 15 minutes, they were like, bring out Silly Noises guy.

16:05 Yeah, right, right. Yeah, like.

16:07 And he'd be like, here's the.

16:09 Sound of an ambulance. You want to hear Jimi Hendrix? Or there's one that he would always do, Led Zeppelin, I think. There's a lot of feedback. He would make the sound of crunchy guitars with a lot of feedback.

16:23 It is wild that he is... has not been replicated. You know, he's a little, like, Weird Al, like that. But even, like, even Weird Al, like, gave way to, like, Lonely Island and stuff like that. But, like, Michael Winslow, there's people who do impressions, but I feel like there's nobody who, he, it's still, he is the icon for a person who makes sound with mouth.

16:46 I have a theory that, like, now that you mention that, that, like, a lot of that style of comedy, like, it's not just Michael Winslow, but also, like, Carrot Top or um Gallagher like that's just like anything like that is just taken over by like just some random asshole on TikTok that's like.

17:06 I'm gonna smash a durian with a hammer.

17:08 Right right right I'm gonna make my house roll it stinks Some guy in his shed who's like, 77 impressions of different farm equipment in seven minutes.

17:19 Yeah.

17:20 Michael Winslow, like, probably, like, went to, like, acting school. Like, Michael Winslow's probably from, like, Juilliard or something. But, like, he just happened to have this, like, talent. The Juilliard of noises. Like, now you can just be some guy from, like, St. Louis who's like.

17:34 Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop.

17:37 This is the sound a bunch of eels make. That is what they sound like. We've all heard a bunch of eels.

17:45 It says he said he had few, Winslow had few friends growing up. To pass time, he would imitate the sounds of engines, animals, flatulence, or anything that made noise. Following high school and college. I can do the flatulence.

17:55 Yeah, we can. I mean, yeah, that's beginner shit.

17:58 But then following high school and college, he performed in nightclubs and theaters where his sound imitation skills won him positive appraisal and enough money to move to perform his act in Hollywood.

18:09 Damn.

18:10 There ain't no story like that anymore.

18:11 Imagine going to Magic City and expecting like strippers and you just see.

18:17 Some guy like.

18:18 Somebody better fix that leak.

18:23 One of these ladies is going to get hurt.

18:25 Better mop that up. I do feel like, I mean, there's been kids going viral for doing bird calls, like doing bird calls that nobody's even familiar with, but it just like, they're like, I bet that is what that bird sounds like. There is another one.

18:42 I do it as machine guns.

18:43 Yeah.

18:43 Yeah.

18:46 There's a machine gun guy, too, who all like the Call of Duty first-person shooter. Like, nuts go fucking crazy for you. Like, dude, do a fucking M60. Or like, A-10 Warthog strafing run. There's a corner waiting for the next Michael Winslow online to just come stand on.

19:04 I support that corner of gun too, but that's just like whatever, just making like sound effects.

19:09 It's weird. And then like, and then like every 15th video, he's like, I want to talk to you guys about Christ.

19:13 And you're like, Oh no, literally, literally. I, I, one of my like most toxic like traits is that I, um, anytime I get one of those videos, that's like.

19:24 Can a bullet stop a hundred rubber duckies? I'm like, I'm watching that. I'm watching that every single time.

19:32 And it ends with a biblical message. I want to know.

19:36 I want to know.

19:37 There's so many of these YouTubers that do that. Some are Mormon and stuff, where they just have access to clearly a lot of money to do stuff.

19:47 We're like, I'm.

19:47 Gonna I'm gonna go to every single theme park hotel and like it's just about having the capital to like basically say I'm gonna hit every hotel and then at the end it's like.

19:57 You know, like God also loves you. Just want you to know that.

20:00 You know who likes hotels?

20:01 Christians.

20:02 There's a big hotel up in the sky waiting for you.

20:05 Hey, Jesus is waiting for you right next to your bed, side table. Every time, open that drawer and open up your heart.

20:12 Let him in. What is something, Janie, that you think is underrated?

20:15 Okay, I couldn't find... I had a hard time with all of these, honestly. Where did I write this down?

20:23 Over, under.

20:24 Well, I think personally, the album Crisis Acting in the End Times or How to Kill the Antichrist and Save Rock and Roll by Janie Danger is a criminally underrated album.

20:35 A lot of people are saying, many are saying.

20:38 I think that's very underrated. It should be very, very highly rated. It should be going off the charts rated.

20:46 Should be.

20:47 But aside from that, I had a few here I wrote down. Honestly, I wrote down Nathan Fielder, but I feel like we're going to talk about that later.

20:56 So I might save that.

20:57 I wrote that down because even though he's one of the most highly rated things ever, I still feel like he's misunderstood in a sense by a lot of people. So we could maybe save my thoughts on that.

21:10 Okay.

21:11 Yeah, yeah.

21:11 Here, I'll go with this one since it's Halloween time. Free movie sites. Free movie sites. Not everyone is good at torrenting. And I understand that. I've told some of my coworkers, one thing I really like to say, and I say it like this every time, is how it feels to not have any streaming services at all, not pay for any of them. And I'm doing a motion of handcuffs with my hand, and I'm breaking them. Breaking them, liberating yourself. It feels so freeing, not having to pay for anything, and just... finding it, and I still probably spend, I still give more money to movies I like and stuff than I ever would by using streaming services, but I will say there's still to this day websites out there on the regular internet that you can just click, click,

22:05 clackety-click away, and it might not have exactly what you want, but it's gonna have something beautiful and crazy, and especially around Halloween, I'm a big fan of effed up movies and it does have a lot of really bad shit in it that I'm kind of working on a secret little project about right now.

22:22 Okay.

22:22 But it has a bunch of just normal ass, like dope ass movies.

22:25 Like it's got like a bunch of like slashers and Giallo and it's got like Harmony Corrine movies and like anything that's, um, effed up.

22:35 Right and it's just it's just there i was surprised how much shit was on the internet archive too like i was looking for an old comedy central show and the entire season was just like uploaded it like it was like not it was like 360p which is fine it was like from the 90s yeah but i was like yeah it's all here and it's not on a single streaming site.

22:53 It's probably better quality now than it was watching it on like a crt in like the in 1994 like Yeah, so shout out to free movie sites. I think they're so underrated. I don't want to say too many because I don't want to blow up their spot.

23:09 Go on Reddit.

23:10 You find them by just searching. Yeah, go on Reddit.

23:13 Also, there's free movies on YouTube. You can watch Inland Empire in full on YouTube. I don't know how. It hasn't been taken down.

23:23 You can watch Silence of the Lambs on there too. What? Maybe if it's free? Premium?

23:28 Amazing.

23:29 I don't know.

23:29 Amazing stuff.

23:30 I saw it and I was like, y'all are changing the words. I can't watch this version of Silence of the Lambs, actually.

23:37 You realize you're watching Seinfeld of the Lambs. Kramer, what are you doing to these girls?

23:43 What are you doing?

23:44 They put the lotion on the skin, Jerry.

23:45 I can smell you.

23:48 Like Kramer's Buffalo Bill. And Newman's Hannibal.

23:53 Yeah.

23:55 And it's like, I know how to catch him, Clarice. With that Wayne Knight laugh.

24:00 Yeah, Clarice is, you're like, I don't remember Julia Louis-Dreyfus being in this film.

24:05 Hello, Elaine. I could definitely see her coming around the corner to his cell and just Wayne Knight sitting there with a big smile on his face. That is an awkward moment where Hannibal Lecter is just standing there in his whites with his hands behind his back or on his hips. Very cute.

24:24 Fucking George was in Jacob's Ladder, which I remember the first time I watched that, I was like, what the, that's George.

24:29 Oh, no, George, late 90s, or late 80s run.

24:32 And it was great, too, because Jason Alexander was wearing so many wigs in different roles, too.

24:37 Oh, he got hair in this one? All right.

24:40 Yeah.

24:40 We'll do that.

24:40 That was kind of the prototype of just like Guy in a silly wig. Like every episode of It's Always Sunny where Frank wears a wig.

24:48 It doesn't have to be a joke. It's just always funny every time he shows up in a wig.

24:51 Just do it with a straight face. What's something you think is overrated? Overrated.

24:59 Well, I think the end times are quite overrated. Speaking of which, crisis acting and then we'll get to that later.

25:05 Yeah.

25:06 I wrote down just saying words. This is something I've encountered on Twitter a lot lately.

25:12 I've kind of made my own little copypasta to respond to people who.

25:17 Just, like, they'll use terms, like, I don't like the term slop anymore. I think y'all have used the term slop too much. I'm seeing y'all use it to everything. You could go to a LensCrafters and be like, I'm tired of glasses slop.

25:37 What are you saying? What do you mean?

25:41 Y'all are just saying shit. Everyone is just saying shit. Things that are like very specific personal grievances to them and then acting like this is a broader problem or a broader reflection on like societal ills. And I want to stress that like, I actually really like, I call it artful hating. I used to be on Rotten Tomatoes a lot, like way back in the day. I think it's pretty trash now.

26:14 But way back in the day, I would look up like classic movies and stuff. And I would always try to find like, the, the bad reviews, like the one motherfucker who's like, I didn't care for the Godfather.

26:25 It insisted upon itself.

26:27 Yeah.

26:27 But I want to, and sometimes it's stupid.

26:30 Like a lot of times you go on letterbox and you're like, I didn't like, you can see everything because Nathan Fielder is like, not like woke or something.

26:38 And you're like, what, what do you mean?

26:40 But are you sure?

26:41 Like sometimes it's ridiculous, but like an artfully done, like hater thing, even if it's something I love, I'm like, you know what?

26:49 That's worth reading.

26:50 And I feel like the way, like here, I wrote down one example where someone was talking about the Cameron Winter, Paul Thomas Anderson, Carnegie Hall performance, Paul Thomas Anderson film. And they said, bourgeois darling, Paul Thomas Anderson strikes again, this time with a toothless derivative, anti-revolutionary concert film, Devoted to saccharine young nepo baby psyop Cameron Winter, in these trying times, Anderson chooses to mock liberatory aesthetics with grainy anesthetic 35mm slop.

27:26 What?

27:27 Like, what?

27:28 Like, you're just connecting a string of personal grievances together. Like, you don't have to like Cameron Winter. You don't have to like fucking his music. You don't have to like Paul Thomas Sanders' movies. You don't have to like these aesthetics. But the connections here aren't, like, connecting in a way that actually, like, materializes in an actual critique of anything except for a string of personal grievances.

27:54 And it's word slop. So what's your copypasta you hit them with?

27:59 Ooh, let me look that up. I think I said... Let me go to.

28:05 Jarvis, pull up copypasta file.

28:08 Jarvis, hit me with my X to everything app tab. I said, we're just saying fucking words, bro.

28:15 Just anything.

28:16 Just open a dictionary and start putting shit together. We're doing fridge magnet shit, bro. Let's link up and say bullshit from a fridge.

28:23 It's lit.

28:24 Because they're just.

28:25 Saying bullshit from a fridge.

28:26 They're just grabbing a group of pre-selected fridge magnets and cooking them together.

28:36 It's like the new version, poetry fridge magnets, but you're just doing Twitter buzzword shit together.

28:42 Yes. You get your own slap phrase. One buzzword after another.

28:45 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I hate it. I'm so sick of it.

28:49 I think there's a very real connection between Paul Thomas Anderson's shot selection and AI slop. I think they're right on. They've nailed it. Yeah.

29:00 Yeah, it's weird, too, that slop started as a term for, like, AI slop and slop.

29:05 Like, I don't know. Like, I get why that word.

29:09 It's also weird that, like, the term slop kind of is downstream from, like, 4chan stuff, but don't really have to get into that. but like it, it had like the connotation with that. And now that it has connotation with anything, it kind of just means nothing, which is just something.

29:26 That ends up happening on the internet. You know, like just certain shit just gets so worn out. It's like, I don't even, it's completely lost its meaning at this point.

29:33 Yeah.

29:34 The death of all meaning is just something that I think about a lot and something that's been like a core thing about like my music and writing and apparently i mean judging from the uh cultural schema right now like it's i'm not the only one to be thinking about stuff like that especially with like the the big the big hit movies that are out in theaters right now so.

29:57 Yeah Superchaser Victor said, I saw someone refer to There Will Be Blood as quality slop. Something people only like because it's good. High quality filmmaker slop. Amazing.

30:10 I'm tired of this good slop.

30:14 Bring me some more fucking alcohol slop to deal with this bullshit.

30:19 Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about Elon Musk and a couple other things. We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. And I think we can blow through a couple stories here before we get to You Can See Everything, which is what we're really here to talk about. Really? For the foreseeable future. No.

30:48 So Elon Musk announced his plan to gift SpaceX shares to every child in America. And this is that there was a Wall Street Journal article. Musk vows to give each U.S. child a SpaceX share. Like people are treating this as a as a thing that is possibly going to happen. So just real quick, he generally likes to promise to donate money to charity more than he likes to donate money to charity. He signed the Giving Pledge in 2012, which is, you know, the billionaire pledge to give more than half of your money away to charity before you die or in your will. He transferred more than...

31:27 Where is he at right now? So he transferred $ 8 billion of Tesla stock to his charitable foundations, which... Sounds like a lot. It is only 0.9% of his net worth. But as of his nonprofit's last publicly available tax return, most of that money is still just sitting there. An estimated $ 500 million has been dispersed out of the $ 800 billion in the last decade. So he says he's going to do something. He puts it in a position where he could do something. $ 800 billion, you said? What's that?

31:59 You said $ 800 billion he gave? No, no. $ 500 million. But then you said of $ 800 billion. Of $ 8 billion that he put in there. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay.

32:12 Sounds like a bunch of charity slop to me.

32:15 Yeah, it's charity slop. It is essentially what it is, where he does the thing to get the credit, to get the headline, that he put $ 8 billion in his charitable foundation. It's like he's about to give it away. And then he has only done a small portion of it. But for the most part, everything else, he just kind of...

32:34 lets it cook. This is probably to compete with Anthropic, who announced it would allot a portion of its shares to a public benefit fund on an ongoing basis the day before Musk made his announcement. Isn't Anthropic also lobbying the Pope to try to get him to admit that their AI is sentient?

32:55 Oh, and that has an AI?

32:57 No, to get... They want the Pope to be like, hey, could you just... Tell people that our AI has a soul.

33:05 Right, right, right.

33:07 No. Have you heard what the Pope said about AI? Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, yeah. He ain't going to be like, this child has a soul. Please treat Claude well.

33:16 So how would it happen? Did they insult it? Or is it just born? Did God insult it? Or does the Pope insult it? Who is ensouling the AI? I think that's how in this hypothetical where it does have a soul.

33:30 I'm not here to compare me, the creator of this AI to God who creates, you know, beings with souls. I'm just here to ask the Pope to say that. Yeah. Yeah. It's essentially where.

33:44 It's basically, you're just like, it's like, you're trying to get a pull quote for the back cover of your book or something. Yeah.

33:49 Right. Kind of like God, would you agree the Pope? Yo, this shit totally got a soul.

33:54 Hey, Roger Ebert and Richard Roper, can you give my AI two thumbs up to put on the front cover of the DVD? Two souls up.

34:03 He's really in like PR control mode this week. Just like with the fucking stupid car. I got a shout-out. Oh, the flying one? The one that went upside down on the wall.

34:13 The roadrunner or whatever? The kickflip off the fucking wall.

34:17 Shout-out Max. No, I'm kind of interested in that because I'm usually... I'm often finding myself in situations where I might... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I might have to do a Dukes of Hazzard style.

34:26 Someone on Blue Sky, shout-out Max Zeniel of Zeitgang who sent me a video about how... Someone's been doing this... This is a new technology even? Like, what the fucking... The Elon Musk car thing?

34:38 No. Again, it's just all, hey, look over here. Don't look at that, look over here. It's a cool trick he saw a car company doing. He's like, that old.

34:48 If Elon Musk wasn't the most evil person ever riddled with Antichrist particles, I would say that, just in the abstract, making Looney Tunes technology... Where, like, you can, like, run off a cliff and, like, look down and, like, be like, uh-oh.

35:05 Uh-oh. Gravity.

35:07 That's awesome. Just in the abstract, I think that that's pretty fucking cool.

35:12 As distractions go, that was a pretty good one. Yeah.

35:16 I do think it was meant to be a distraction from who he is or what he's doing. If he was just a guy who makes Looney Tunes stuff, then, yeah, you're like, eh.

35:23 That'd be dope.

35:25 It'd still be better to give that money to people who need it, but just in the abstract, doing stupid shit like.

35:35 That, I don't know. Same thing in my brain that makes me watch how many rubber duckies does it take to stop a desert eagle? It's the same thing that makes me interested.

35:48 Well, how many?

35:50 How many Squishmallows would stop a bullet?

35:53 Do we have an answer on that? I'd like to get an answer on that.

35:56 Dude, I don't know if they've done Squishmallows. They've probably done rubber duckies, though.

35:59 Yeah, for sure. Also, the recent Elon Musk documentary reveals that he slashed his childcare payments to his ex because she publicly admitted that the baby was his. And it went from like $ 40, 000 a month to $ 20, 000 a month after.

36:13 Ooh.

36:16 She like tried to negotiate from a lump sum of 15 million plus a hundred thousand a month in child support. She was like, I don't know that that seems weird to me. And then he was like, you still want to get a 40,000 a month. And then she was like, okay, I guess I'm going to go public since you're like put, you know, hardball negotiating with me when I just had your kid. And then he was like, it's 20,000 a month. So, The one share, it also, that headline reads like old-timey philanthropy.

36:47 You know what I mean? Yeah.

36:48 Like, that's kind of like the sort of bump he's trying to get from being like, Musk promises one share to every U.S. child of space fuck, you know?

36:57 Yeah.

36:59 Sure, but again, you're not buying it. Who the fuck wants a share of anything? Like, that's, I'm not like a stock market person.

37:06 Like, I don't, like.

37:08 I've been addicted to everything under the sun, but gambling. Because gambling implies I'm losing things. And I don't... That's why I can't ever get behind the stock market. I had a Robinhood account for a few weeks. Because it was around the time the GameStop shit was happening. And people were like, Dogecoin will make you some money. I did it for two weeks. I saw it go up to like $ 100 and I was like, I'm out. I'm going to get my nails done.

37:36 Like, I'm good.

37:37 I closed my account immediately. Like, I just, I don't understand. Like, why would I want to share?

37:43 Okay, control.

37:44 Give me a little bit of money.

37:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:47 It just hits you up for $ 100. No, it's not even control. It's just like, I have money. I'm taking that.

37:52 No, I'm saying that you're able to look at that and say, I've reached the usefulness of this, and I seek no more.

37:59 I mean, maybe I stopped before I found the big pile of diamonds.

38:05 Maybe I should get back into... Oh, like that meme?

38:07 Yeah, like the person who stopped digging right before you hit that payload.

38:12 Well, I'm going to start him off with that big payload, so... I mean, Musk could just offer every child $ 150.

38:18 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's about what a SpaceX share is. I think this is implicitly their pitch for, like, this is what we'll have instead of Social Security. Yeah, right, right, right. Money that is actually held by the government to help people. It's like, no, instead you get a stake in the stock market. Which, it makes sense that they would want to do that. Sorry, I mean, we're chaining you to the radiator that is Wall Street. That's right. Right, yeah.

38:50 Just so you know. So don't fucking, don't get any ideas, because you'll go down with this thing.

38:53 Also, one thing I just don't understand about SpaceX is, like, where is NASA? Like, I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but, like, I thought NASA was what did space stuff, and it was publicly funded. And now SpaceX is like a private company and they're like, we're doing rockets too.

39:14 Yeah.

39:14 And it's like, what?

39:15 Cause funding's just been going down and down and down, you know, to the point where it's, you know, where they're like partnering with SpaceX, right?

39:24 Yeah.

39:24 To help do things.

39:25 I'd have to assume there's subsidies and stuff there, too.

39:30 Everything Elon-related.

39:32 Oh, yeah. And now, too, with obviously this administration, one of his friends is heading up NASA.

39:39 Who?

39:41 I'll tell you right now.

39:43 His name is Jeffrey Epstein. He's back, and he knows about rockets now.

39:50 He's always been interested in science, actually.

39:53 Look, I'm done with... I know.

39:54 Jared, his name is Jared Isaacman.

39:58 Jared Isaacman?

39:59 Yep. Jared's a good man.

40:00 The binding of Isaacman?

40:02 Yep.

40:03 He's 43 years old and like a big... Yeah, again, huge Musk ally.

40:08 Speaking of excess Oregon meat, hot dogs have been recalled. Kayam Foods has announced a massive recall of nearly 1.6 million pounds of ready-to-eat cooked meat and poultry products. Pounds. Because of a temperature storage issue.

40:24 Have y'all seen the thing about how every time there's a headline about food being recalled, they find a picture of RFK? where he looks exactly like the food that's being recalled.

40:35 This one's so easy.

40:37 Hot dog, that's a slow one down the middle.

40:39 Oh, yeah, yeah.

40:40 That's a slow one down the middle.

40:42 Literally, his face looks like he is made of hot dog meat. You baloney-faced motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, we got you right here. This is not a light warning. They say that there is a reasonable probability that eating the meat could cause serious adverse health consequences or death, and this is all because they gutted food testing. the safety net those there to catch food before it was out and harming people. And, you know, now they catch it when people get sick from, you know, it's like, it's like the old King testing method where like the King has a peasant test their food for them and then watches to see if they die. Come on, chew it up.

41:24 Is that good? Are you dead? No. All right. Give me it. Give it to me. Give it to me. But I'm eating it. Yeah. It's, I mean, Also, we're not really in hot dog season.

41:33 It's not.

41:35 I do see hot dogs as a very seasonal food, although I grew up eating them.

41:39 Kind of year round.

41:39 They bloom in the spring.

41:40 It's time for the hot dog harvest.

41:45 They grow like asparagus, just like straight out of the ground. Just straight up out of the ground.

41:51 You just pick them. Is that how asparagus grows? Just straight up? Yes, dude. Wow.

41:56 No, if you have never looked at a picture of how asparagus grow, it's like garden eels. If you've ever seen a garden eel, they just come right out of the ground.

42:05 Oh, yeah. It's like otherworldly.

42:08 It's exactly how in my head it would grow. Whereas cashews are weird. They look like a fruit has taken a little shit. Yeah, on the top of it.

42:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

42:17 Whereas asparagus is exactly, it just pops up straight out of the ground.

42:23 No, it's so unserious. Okay, I've never seen cashews growing either. This is all so crazy.

42:27 What in the hell?

42:29 It's like an apple just poops it out.

42:31 What the fuck? It's a lot of mass just for that little thing on the top. You're like, what about all that other shit? dude yeah what about the other stuff like.

42:39 The ultimate rich guy food i found.

42:42 Out i found out i'm allergic to cashews recently oh really yeah someone one of my co-workers brought in some uh dill pickle cashews and i was like do you want some i was like of course i like put took a handful i was like my mouth is quite itchy right now so it wasn't like a full-on reaction but like the it's.

43:00 Your body said yeah you sure It's.

43:03 Like when you eat an out-of-season hot dog.

43:05 Yeah, exactly.

43:07 It's not quite what you want.

43:08 My throat closes up. You don't want to do it. I never thought of hot dogs as being a particularly volatile food. I always thought of them as being pretty stable. Because it's so chemically processed. Hamburger meat sitting out. if i if i'm like at a barbecue and there's been hamburger meat sitting out in the sun all day and hot dogs sitting out in the sun all day yeah i'm gonna feel fine about the hot dog.

43:32 Because that shit is yeah yeah.

43:34 Like there's no organic material underground for a couple weeks and like it would still be fine.

43:39 It's also like like it's ready to eat when you get it like you're a absolute psychopath if you do that but like you can like.

43:48 I know i have a i had a friend who would eat raw hot dogs because you can he's like no you actually don't need.

43:54 To cook just lucy's out the pack lucy's oh yeah that in vienna it's like a vienna sausage basically but yeah worse like.

44:03 Vienna's got that juice in the canes.

44:05 Yeah, you do get the juice, which makes a great Bloody Mary or dirty martini.

44:12 Yeah, the Vienna teeny.

44:13 Use all the Vienna sauce. Yeah, let me get a dirty Vienna martini.

44:17 Yeah, it's shaken. Yeah, you better incorporate that shit.

44:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, I'd like mine stirred. you know i don't like the.

44:25 Dilution yeah sure you don't want to you don't want to bruise the juniper.

44:28 Yeah stirred with a hot dog though.

44:32 Yeah yes with a hot dog but it's.

44:36 Got to be like an 18 incher so you got the same kind of length of like a cocktail mixing spoon.

44:40 Yeah there's uh there's a classic cocktail called a tea punch and uh the the lore behind it is that it was stirred with uh your finger and it's There's still bars that will, if you order a T-Punch, they'll start with their finger.

44:53 Wait, why does that make a difference?

44:55 Because it was like a cocktail for sailors.

44:58 It's basically like a boozy-ass rum daiquiri with rum agricole and a lime cheek and just some cane sugar. It was just meant for sailors. When they need a quick, boozy, drinkable drink, they just pour a shit-ton of rum, agricole, cane sugar, lime cheek, and then stir.

45:18 It with their finger and there you go.

45:19 Drink up.

45:20 Drink up soldier.

45:21 I'm going to go to a bar and I'll be like, and do it the old school way.

45:24 Yeah.

45:24 Do it the old school way.

45:25 Take that glove off.

45:27 Yeah.

45:27 Find a girl with some long, like nicely done nails.

45:31 I want whatever is growing under a bartender's fingernail to be, uh, to be in my drink.

45:38 Yeah, five of them.

45:39 So they got to go like with their whole hand. That's how you know they're a pro.

45:44 Yeah.

45:45 Like a basketball.

45:46 All right. Well, I can palm a basketball.

45:49 Yeah.

45:49 Let's let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we will talk about you can see everything. Oh, which you could ask. Is this the film that can heal America? We'll be right back. And we're back. And as mentioned earlier in the week, you can see everything as a box office hit. I have to assume they're expanding it to more people. At first I was like, okay, it's going to have a good first week because everybody who fucks with Nathan Fielder is going to go see it.

46:27 And it's going to be very popular in the sorts of cities where movies open. But I was like, I don't know if it's going to... I don't know how leggy it's going to be. And now I'm like, no, this is, everybody is talking about this. This, this movie has broken containment. It is not just for film people anymore.

46:46 Like this is, everybody is talking about like, I feel like you kind of have to see it. It is your duty as an American.

46:55 You're talking about whale fall, right?

46:57 Yeah.

46:57 Of course.

46:58 Talking about whale fall.

47:00 Yeah.

47:01 Well, fall is a great word. They should not have wasted on that movie.

47:06 I don't know. Have you seen it?

47:07 Have you seen it? No, you saw it? No, I didn't.

47:11 I saw someone describe it as a movie made specifically for AMC Stubbs members.

47:16 I was like, that sounds perfect. That sounds perfect.

47:21 I'm not an AMC Stubbs member.

47:22 Or maybe it's just kind of like, it could be like the new seasonal fashion trend.

47:26 It's like, are you doing whale fall? yeah yeah it sounds.

47:31 Like something like like a rednecks would do you know how they do the thing where they like stick their arms and into the river and let fish bite them for like fish yeah like they're going we're going whale falling we get sucked up by a whale again there you go yeah hillbilly hand fishing what.

47:48 If we went inside that whale and kissed each other.

47:52 Right here in front of god and everyone just like jonah.

47:54 You I will say, you were saying how much of a hit it was. It was number two in the box office this weekend.

48:01 After Street Fighter.

48:02 Do you all know what number one was?

48:04 Street Fighter. Yeah, what the fuck?

48:07 I think I saw one trailer for those.

48:10 I didn't even see a trailer.

48:11 I saw a quick Instagram stories ad for it.

48:17 There's a fucking Street Fighter movie? I thought the algorithm knows I'm Asian. Like, how the fuck are you going to put this shit in front of me? Like, I was so into fucking Street Fighter.

48:27 But anyway, I'm glad to see that even the members of the right, even the right, you said heels, so the right wing, is it they like the Charlie Kirk I mentioned maybe?

48:37 I don't know.

48:38 No, they actually don't like that.

48:40 They don't like that part. Yeah, I was going to say. Keep my man's name out of your mouth is what they say about that. But yeah, Megyn Kelly talks.

48:48 Talks a bunch of Kirk slop.

48:50 Talked on her show. And she did complain about the audience's reaction to the moment when Charlie Kirk gets name dropped. But she still praised the film as a whole. On the Monday episode of The Megyn Kelly Show, she talked about her experience seeing Nathan Fielder's new documentary. And she said she enjoyed her time watching the film and even marveled at how full the theaters were for it. But there was one moment that rankled her. It did go political in this scene. It went political. over someone who I happened to love. His name is Charlie Kirk. And it was fucking ridiculous. It was ridiculous. And I was in the midst of a bunch of leftists in the theater.

49:32 I'm not going to ruin it for you again. But his name came up and one person was shitting all over Charlie and one person was defending him. But then she also said she really liked him. Like, the movie? I love it. 10 out of 10.

49:46 Did they ever get past that, I guess? Megan, you live in New York. You're surrounded by leftists quite often.

49:53 You look.

49:54 Yeah, well, I mean, for them, anytime someone just has just a shred of empathy or anything, they're like, those are just these leftists or whatever the fuck they are. Why aren't you booing the mention of Charlie?

50:06 I will say, just in terms of, like, theater experiences, I... I've been a bit annoyed lately. Something me and my friend have talked about, like, performative laughter. The very opening scene of the film, like, Nathan Fielder's in, like, the third, like, shot of the movie, and people bust out laughing just at, like, his face.

50:27 And I was, like, looking around, like, guys, like, calm down.

50:32 And while there is, like, a lot of funny things in this, and I have to talk about prime time a little bit too. Cause I had a very similar experience where like people were laughing that whole movie. And I was like, this is terrifying. None of this is funny to me at all. And there definitely was scenes in both of these films that like were intended to be laughed at. But like, I was a little like, uneasy at how much like people were not taking things like seriously right and that entire like the dinner table scene which charlie kirk has mentioned is very funny but um.

51:07 Should we do a spoiler here i guess it's is it a spoiler to say charlie kirk gets mentioned I don't think so.

51:15 I mean, the context, you don't even know who the people involved in the conversation, which I.

51:19 Think is a broader point. The people involved in the conversation is a bit of a spoiler, so we'll say maybe if you plan on seeing it, this is the time to dip on out. Janie, why don't you first plug your album before they leave for people.

51:31 Who haven't seen it? Yeah, my album's called Crisis Acting. It has a fuller title called Crisis Acting in the End Times, or How to Kill the Antichrist and Save Rock and Roll. If you just type Crisis Acting by Janie Danger, there's been two singles, Kill Yourself Help Book and The Last Word, which both have.

51:52 Beautiful music videos.

51:53 The Last Word music video came out recently, directed by Nadir Bassett. He's a very talented director and director of photography. It's a very beautiful video that we're very proud of. And I'm very, very, very, very, very proud of this album.

52:07 We worked really, really, really.

52:08 Hard on it.

52:09 It's been described as conspiracy punk, which I think is a very cool term. And yeah, I mean, if you like rock music, heavy music, it kind of has every, it's like a culmination of everything I've done. It's a little bit of every genre of like, punk music, alternative music.

52:30 Sort of like what Nathan Fielder did with You Can See Everything. Took little bits of his experiences making things and culminates in this masterpiece.

52:37 You could call it music slop in a sense.

52:40 Because it has a lot of different types of music that I care deeply about. And it's about a lot of what we're about to talk about, about things not becoming real and the disassociation people have with like reality and leaning into like, insincerity and hedonism and lunacy. And it begs you to return to a sense of sincerity and community by the end of it. And I am very proud of it. There's also a crisis acting, the crisis actress manifesto that accompanies it, which you can read on my sub stack and.

53:16 On other stuff.

53:18 Yes. Well, yeah, everyone loves a manifesto.

53:20 Go there now. Check it out now. Crisis, crisis acting in the end times.

53:25 And look, and if, but if you're down for spoilers, if you're.

53:30 Down for spoilers, keep listening because it's about to happen now. You've been warned. So yeah, the, uh, Wait, what were we about to say?

53:41 So, Helen Keller shows up and the joke is that you can't see everything.

53:44 We were talking, I mean, we were just, I think where we were leaving off was talking about where the right was at.

53:49 Oh, yeah, yeah. Those reactions. Yeah, so Matt Walsh also praised You Can See Everything as a, quote, extraordinary bit of filmmaking. Which prompted, I think that was the point where people were like, is Nathan Fielder going to unify and save the Republic?

54:06 No. Can I tell you why?

54:07 That's not how it's happening. That would be too convenient and not how what needs to happen will happen.

54:13 Right-wingers don't deserve to appreciate good art. So there's that. So even if they do like it, they don't deserve to like it. And I feel like right-wingers always like to take a very different message out of what's... And hey, for the record, I do this with right-wing art that I like. Like when I watch Death Wish 3, I'm like, this is... Very problematic, but it's.

54:35 A cool movie.

54:36 It has explosions. So that's what I take from that.

54:39 I get the sustenance from it, right.

54:41 I think even in a hypothetical world where everyone received this message and was having a moment where it's like, we should be more honest and real and understanding of each other. The fact that right-wing people are coming out and glazing it means that every annoying, like, fake-o, weird-o, anti-social leftist on Twitter is going to be like, Nathan Fielder's MAGA, and he's uniting MAGA coalitions, and we have.

55:11 To stop this.

55:12 So I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry to hate on my own team. I rarely do that, I swear. But that is the one thing that I think would, like, fuck up this hypothetical thing.

55:23 Sure, sure, sure.

55:24 Sorry, that's my tangent on that.

55:26 Yeah. I mean, it does seem like the conservatives are saying it's like an indictment of millennial idealism.

55:35 I don't think that's entirely wrong.

55:36 I'll be honest.

55:37 Yeah, I don't think that's wrong either. I think it's very critical of a lot of different things in the culture. Yeah.

55:43 Right.

55:43 Yeah. It's also a takedown of, like, tech oligarchs and the fact that, like, truth doesn't really exist anymore. Yeah.

55:51 If I may, I want to also say that, like, this movie really benefits, like, the fielder fanatics, like, people who have gone from Nathan For You to the rehearsal, and especially The Curse. I think a lot of people did not watch The Curse because it is a tough watch, but The Curse deals a lot, and the rehearsal season two, deals a lot with, like, him kind of feeling guilty about like tricking people and Nathan for you and being feeling guilty with like the insincerity that he showed. And I think that that in conversation with primetime where Lance Oppenheim is like critiquing how like Chris Hansen brought about this world of like punishment and, and shame and like, like just like shame onto like the mainstream where everyone

56:38 can like shame someone that they think deserves it. I think that he's starting to realize maybe it's not good that I'm making this piece of art just for everyone to tar and feather this person who's already going to jail for a decade. I think that the self-flagellation plays into that a lot and to lead us into the spoiler territory after the first hour is where Elizabeth Holmes actually does go to jail because all we really know is that it's about 34 days leading up to her going to jail. And that happens on the first hour where Jack, I guess I'll let you take it from there.

57:15 Cause I've talked a lot.

57:17 Where Amanda Seyfried shows up and is like, you're, it is kind of the question you're asking because they keep referring back to the dropout and being like, what, you know, the, this thing that was very damaging to her. And, um, they watch it with Elizabeth Holmes and, you know, she's like very uncomfortable in it. And when she shows up, Amanda Seyfried, like, the crowd, like, our crowd was just, like, so giddy with excitement. And then she really, like, fucking pays off. Like, she's amazing.

57:51 She is great. And also, fucking, what's his name? The actor who plays Billy is also an actor. Christopher Abbott. Christopher Abbott also plays Billy.

58:01 From Girls is where I know him from.

58:03 Oh, he's in Girls. Oh, yeah, he is. Oh, my God.

58:05 He's, like, Marnie's boyfriend who ends up, like... I think having a drug, like a heroin problem. Like he goes through like a tech oligarch phase and then has a drug problem.

58:15 Ironically enough, yeah.

58:17 Interesting casting there.

58:18 I know him from a horror movie. I thought I can't remember what it was.

58:21 He just was the wolf. He was just the wolf man.

58:23 Oh, he was the wolf man.

58:25 Whoa.

58:26 Yeah, that was where it really, like, the first hour is very engaging and fascinating. But it really, like, all of the, like, glowing five out of five stars reviews you're seeing is for everything that happens after that second hour. And that's where I bring in how it culminates all of, like, Fielder's, like, predilections and things that he's been exploring with, like, what is.

58:55 What is sincere?

58:57 Like he literally starts doing the rehearsal, but with Amanda Seyfried as this real person of these real events. And I, want to share this story. I'm sorry I've been going on a lot, but this movie's been in my head a lot lately. When I walked out of the theater, there's a bar next to the Plaza Theater in Atlanta.

59:18 And I went to the restroom because I had to pee. And I get out of the restroom and I look up and I see this girl in a black turtleneck with like kind of like fucked up lipstick and like kind of like fucked up like eyeliner and she was blonde and I was like holy shit I literally I felt like a pit in my stomach where like I literally funny to bring up Charlie Kirk like you know how like people post a picture of someone who kind of looks like Charlie Kirk or like an AI thing.

59:49 And they're like, am I going fucking insane? Like, am I just seeing this guy everywhere?

59:54 That was literally how I felt where I was like, am I just seeing this person everywhere now that I've just seen this movie? And thank God I went by the bar and I saw one of my friends and he was like, yeah, my wife just went to the bathroom.

1:00:07 She's dressed up as Elizabeth Holmes. I was like, Oh my God. And he was dressed up as Nathan Fielder.

1:00:12 He had the like, uh, same like headphones that, that Nathan had.

1:00:19 On.

1:00:19 I can't stop thinking about that moment because I genuinely had, like, I came back to my girlfriend and I was like, I need a drink. I feel like I'm going through psychosis right now.

1:00:30 Did the film have that effect on you too? Because I feel part of watching it is you sort of have to reckon with whoever you thought Elizabeth Holmes is, was, the depiction, what it means, what message you got from that. You're just questioning more at a macro level, how we interact with people's personas and how quickly we are to just be like, I know the fully defined person based on these three bits of information I have, because I felt like that was the thing that gave me discomfort too, of like sort of realizing what it means when you are put in front of cameras.

1:01:04 And the media just makes you a thing.

1:01:06 And our sort of, our sort of thought killing cliches, we sort of abide by to just sort of define people in certain ways. Not again, I said this on Monday when we were talking about not to say like, she's innocent of anything. but just this added texture of like a humanity around a person that's very easy.

1:01:20 To just flatten into like a one dimension. I will say just to, to kind of tie those two points together. The, the one thing that is like Nathan Fielder is wrestling with the truth and like the unknowability of the truth. And like, well, you know, feelings of guilt, Amanda Seyfried is, you can tell like wrestling with like feelings of guilt and, you know, things like that, but like kind of, you know, keep, also maintaining like a a level of kind of incisiveness yeah but the the two that aren't wrestling with that at all are elizabeth holmes and right her husband are just like no we actually did nothing wrong here's why over and over and over again as they're like trying to back their way into a technological breakthrough that will

1:02:08 justify like everything that they've been saying all along. And so I do think, like, ultimately, it is an examination of these types of people who have taken over the world and don't possess, A, the need to blink, or B, the need to... An internal monologue. Yeah. Like, any need to ever doubt what they've done in the past and instead will just keep reconfiguring the truth inside their mind as they move forward in whatever way is going to be most convenient for them.

1:02:39 No, that was definitely something I started taking from it and about like part like act two, where it was like, yeah, like the move to Austin and stuff is like, this world is just ran by a bunch of actual fucking psychopaths that have No regard for anything.

1:02:55 And yeah, you're right.

1:02:57 Like, I think Nathan and Amanda are two people that like actually are wrestling with these issues in their own way. Amanda Seyfried, interestingly, kind of feels like the audience surrogate.

1:03:08 No, totally.

1:03:09 Especially in the screening.

1:03:10 That I saw. Everything she was saying was getting the.

1:03:13 Like claps and like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:03:16 Um, especially when she was like, we need to go tell her some shit. So they break up the fucking theater. We got to break them up. People are like, yeah, exactly.

1:03:25 And that's, that's interesting too, because I'm curious what y'all thought about like the ending kind of campfire scene where the turkey Nathan's talking about how she said that thing about like love and how like, well, like it's, it's about like, this dynamic of, of love that we have. And I love him. And Amanda Seyfried's like kind of revolted by that. But Nathan Fielder is like, you know, I actually thought that was kind of sweet and I might be in the minority here, but I actually also thought that was kind of sweet when she said that.

1:03:55 I don't know. There's a love is gross and it doesn't make sense from an outside perspective, but when you're feeling it, it's amazing. And yeah, like I, I, That it, I was very skeptical of the fact that when she was talking about how much in love she was with, like how pure their love was, it sounded like she was quoting him and then the one, the one thing that she kept coming back. So she said the monument star love, which to be fair, he had said before as something that she would say or had said, but then the fact that she kept coming back being like, I never have to fake it with him. It's like so real. And like the one conflict he had with Amanda Seyfried was about faking orgasms. Oh, right. Made me

1:04:43 think that like he had given her talking points to hit. So you never have to fake it with me, right? Yeah. Yeah. It does benefit her to be in this relationship with this toxic guy who does the dirty work and goes out there and she gets to just continue to like be this sort of idealist thing like that. seems to be maybe her mo but we're yeah.

1:05:06 So there's also a lot of very fascinating like sexual dynamics which was something i wasn't really expecting but like yeah it's like they're in like a techno bdsm like like it's it's like it's not like actual like domination and control like physically in like a bdsm sense but it's like this weird kind of like digital financial BDSM.

1:05:32 And you see that like in the, probably the most chilling scene to me, it was the, the scene where they're making her into the AI thing where they're like taking all the pictures of her and you see him later, like use it, like he's using her body, like, like in kind of a consensual non-consent way.

1:05:53 Yeah. It's funny that that is also a moment where he's, yeah. Very comfortable talking about jacking off to porn.

1:06:01 And he shows his dick, like, pretty early on.

1:06:03 That is. Amazing.

1:06:07 It's not a bad dick. I hate to hand it to him, but it's not bad.

1:06:10 Nathan Fielder. It's a fine dick.

1:06:11 It's a decent dick.

1:06:12 Nathan Fielder loves a bit of full frontal. That's what I got to say. When he has the artistic license to do it, you're going to see some meat. You know what I mean?

1:06:20 You get some of that in The Curse as well.

1:06:21 Yeah, exactly.

1:06:22 Nathan's like his little micro penis.

1:06:24 His little fucking weird ass dick. Janie, I feel like we could talk to you about this forever.

1:06:29 You got me on a movie episode, so you knew what you were getting into.

1:06:33 Thank you so much for joining us. We've already talked about the new album. Thank you so much. Where can people find you and follow you, though? You're a wonderful follow.

1:06:40 Yeah, GodsPerfectVictim on Instagram, Wifesucker on Twitter. You can pretty much Google Janie Danger, find my music anywhere. Spotify, Bandcamp. If you want to buy my music on Bandcamp, it helps a lot. If you want to come to a show, I should hopefully have a tour out sometime next year. Florida fans, look out for that in particular. We're looking into doing a little Florida weekender come spring with another lovely local Atlanta band.

1:07:09 So, yeah, or something bigger on the horizon. I'm probably... This.

1:07:13 Has been a really busy year for me, so I'm going to be taking a break at the end. Me and my girlfriend are going to Japan for a bit.

1:07:20 So.

1:07:22 Yeah, sayonara to everyone for a few weeks.

1:07:25 Hell yeah. Oh wow, you're already studying up.

1:07:27 Yeah, I'm studying up. Yeah, I'm learning, I'm learning. Been watching a lot of Takashi Miike films. Yeah, Janie Danger, Janie I.E. Please check it out. I'm very proud of this album. So I hope you like it too.

1:07:40 Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media? Oh, wait, Janie, is there a work of media you've been enjoying? It's Ichi the Killer, probably. Oh, shit, yeah.

1:07:48 Ichi the Killer is dope. I did look up something recently. I mean, so I have to do like, I'm getting paid to do a DJ set later this month on Halloween night. So I've been putting together, it's an emo night DJ set. So I've been trying to put together a bunch of like, emo it's not that emo i'll be so for real um because there's just not that good halloween emo music or emo music in general i'm sorry um anyway uh i've been enjoying a lot of that uh the cover of astro zombies by my chemical romance is great but i also have this uh cute uh twitter video i'll send y'all it's called drunk pig i think y'all like that it's it's a pig that ate something that got him drunk and uh i think.

1:08:35 It's really cute so passed out yeah Well, that is the best part. But yeah, you guys can enjoy that.

1:08:41 We will link off to that in the footnotes. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying?

1:08:46 Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray.

1:08:49 You find me talking about 90 Day Fiancé on 4, 20 Day Fiancé, talking about the Premier League on Ain't It Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin.

1:08:58 Working media, I like. Just look, I'll keep encouraging people.

1:09:02 Check out.

1:09:03 You can see everything. Just go do that. Go do that if you can. We'll talk about it tomorrow. We'll talk about it tomorrow. Working media, I've been enjoying. In reference to, you can see everything, PJ Evans.com. retweeted this thing raindrops media tweeted the world's largest 4dx cinema is at regal times square in new york city and it shows the theater seats just like going crazy like bouncing up and down and he said when billy starts beating the eggs um.

1:09:30 I have to say billy was right about that.

1:09:32 Billy i was gonna say that is the one place i'm you gotta beat them harder she was not beating them well she was not doing it at all she was just doing no she was just like moving it back and forth like it was very strange.

1:09:44 I understand it's showing something about control but she was not beating them very well you gotta beat them hard you'll get more air in them it'll be a better scramble I will say.

1:09:53 We're the culinary assholes that be like, no, I mean, he got a point. He's right about that.

1:09:59 I'm sorry he was right about that.

1:10:01 It's the one thing. The one thing. And then I like to tweet by Garuka who tweeted, punching Houdini in the gut so hard he dies probably felt amazing. Let's see you escape this, you fucking freak. I saw that this morning. That's funny. Yeah. Uh, you can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien, blue sky, Jack OB, the number one Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter and blue sky at daily zeitgeist.

1:10:32 We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of the episode, wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song. that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

1:10:48 Yeah, there's an album you need to check out. It's called Crisis Acting. You know what I mean?

1:10:54 Crisis Acting by Janie Dane.

1:10:56 Crisis Acting.

1:10:57 What song should we link off to?

1:10:59 I am really proud of the song Staircase Whip, so I think you should do that one. Yeah, Staircase Whip's a Incredible song. Staircase wit.

1:11:08 Or AI-generated depiction of hell would be very appropriate.

1:11:12 Yeah, we've been in a slop thing.

1:11:13 So actually, everybody, go check out Janie Danger's AI-generated depiction of hell.

1:11:17 Because it might just be a mirror for our times. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to you all then.

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