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0:05 I was in the Baltimore Ravens marching band.

0:07 You were? Mm-hmm.

0:08 My senior year of high school. I needed more marching bands.

0:11 What did you play?

0:11 So I joined French horn and mellophone and marching band.

0:14 Wow, I was going to say, yeah, you had a bunch of that.

0:16 We also, this is one of my embarrassing facts, we marched in George Bush's first inaugural parade.

0:22 In the year 2001.

0:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We played Louie Louie for the president.

0:26 Oh, yeah, I remember that. I rolled ex-presidential marching bands. There it is.

0:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:35 I was 18. I was like, weird.

0:37 Is that why you got into ska? Because you played like an instrument.

0:40 Yeah.

0:40 I was, I mean, that's a part of it.

0:41 Yeah.

0:41 I mean, cause I played trumpet and like, for me, the coolest thing I could be playing trumpet was in ska.

0:46 And I was like, yeah, yeah. So this is me. Yeah, exactly.

0:48 Oh, give me a rock star and a marching band geek.

0:51 Great.

0:52 Absolutely.

0:52 Oh yeah.

0:53 And all the kids in marching band, we had a ska band.

0:55 Yeah, absolutely.

0:57 I've told you the story. The lip tones. Yes. Cause we liked lipped in iced tea.

1:02 Oh, the Lipton. I like that.

1:05 The Lipton.

1:07 Johnny Fedora.

1:09 Johnny Fedora.

1:09 Johnny Fedora, which is named after, do you know the old Disney cartoon of like the hats, the two hats that fall in love? They get broken up. They're in a hat shop. It's called.

1:21 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:22 So it's the band.

1:23 Super early.

1:24 The band was named after the boy hat, which is exactly how you name a zombie hat.

1:28 Well, it is.

1:28 He's Johnny Fedora and Alice Blue Bonnet.

1:31 Alice Blue Bonnet.

1:32 Yep.

1:33 Beautiful. A beautiful animation, but that is.

1:35 It's like Toy Story before Toy Story. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:38 It's like, what if hats?

1:39 Because that was the only inanimate object that people had in their house back then. Hey, Jackie, get in here. The Fedora's walking around. Holy smokes.

1:48 Holy... This is horny for that top hat.

1:51 Johnny Fedora does sound like my Philly cousins making fun of somebody with a.

1:56 Yo, Johnny Fedora.

1:58 Johnny Fedora.

1:59 It showed up.

2:00 Jeep.

2:01 Jeep. Yeah, it's a scramble.

2:11 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 461, episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist! This production of iHeartRadio is a podcast where you take a deep dive into American shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news version of The Daily Zeitgeist dropping each Monday morning called The Iconograph, where we do a deep dive into the Zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon.

2:36 Uh-huh.

2:37 It's a little history based. It's a little pop culture based. We're currently in the midst of spooky season. And so we've done Dracula. We've done Hannibal Lecter.

2:49 Speaker 2:

2:52 Oh, and we got we got our final one coming up. It's a doozy. These episodes drop on Monday with Icon in the title. They're a lot of fun. But right here, right now, it is Thursday, October 22nd. 2026. Yep, it's National Nut Day. Hell yeah, it is.

3:15 National Caps, International Caps Lock Day. Shout out to everybody.

3:19 Like me who loves to go all caps. Yeah, exactly. My president, all caps. Also, Scar Appreciation Day. Shout out your scars. Remember your scars. Appreciate them. I got this one on my hand.

3:31 This one on my hand was when I went on a zip line, but I put... My kid had one in his backyard, and the parent's like, whatever you do, don't take the hand trolley and put.

3:40 It above the wire, or else you'll get hurt. Oh, I thought you grabbed the wire. No, baseball... I said, oh, don't do that? I'm seven. I put the shit above the wire. I go down, and because I'm all unbalanced... The hand trolley slipped under.

3:54 Oh, no.

3:55 And then I just like cauterized my hand.

3:58 On this steel wire.

4:00 It was crazy because it didn't hurt. And I was like in shock. And then I was like. Anyway, there's that one.

4:06 I got this one from smashing a cup on my when I was a kid.

4:09 Oh, they don't. Oh, they don't. Snakes don't bite. Snakes don't bite. Oh, they don't. What's that from? A plastic cup when I was a kid. Yeah. Or a snake. You told me you got that one from eating pussy. All right. That's a Scarface reference. Okay.

4:26 National Nut Day.

4:27 National Nut Day. Here we go. Yeah. Speaking of National Nut Day. You told me you got that one. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I watch two docks in the morning. Watch two docks at night. Desert sand is too smooth. Concrete has no might. That one courtesy of David Lesser on the Discord in reference to my two dock weekend. Two banger. Oh, yeah. Yeah, two docks. You can see everything. And, of course, the underrated history of concrete where I learned all sorts of fascinating information about sand.

5:01 And Where Chef Boyardee Is Buried. Oh. And a DMX Christmas album. It's a John Wilson joint. A John Wilson joint. JWJ. Thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

5:15 Yo, just turned from a bat, coming in from East Jubip and Fifth is Delco Dracula, a.k.a.

5:21 Delcula. Yeah. Thanks for having me. I want to suck your blood.

5:25 Hey, I want to suck. Yeah.

5:26 Must have had a long, hey, Jeep? No? Before we do, why don't you go in there and make a toilet?

5:31 Yeah.

5:38 Instagram has made my brain not work. Look, people know I love an accent. I'm a Sixers fan. You're probably more in touch with the reaction to the Sixers win than I am.

5:48 Look, it's not even that I'm a Philadelphia. The algorithms don't think I'm a Philadelphia sports fan necessarily. They just think I'm a lonely middle-aged man who has maybe shared custody of a child based on weird kids' activities in Delco that are happening.

6:03 It's a real shared custody culture. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:06 It's been a long, hard road, you know, but we're getting through it.

6:09 We're getting through it.

6:10 I got my weekend with the kid, so it'll be pretty good.

6:12 I just got to remember not to get shit-faced at Chickies and Pete's, you know? You know Chickies and Peets? Yeah, I was watching the Eagles down there.

6:19 Chickies and Peets.

6:21 Thrilled to be joined in our third seat by someone who is barely tolerating this. A stand-up comedian who's got a hilarious special called Milk Job. You know her from Lady to Lady, The Warped Tour, the founder of the comedy record label Burn This Records.

6:36 It's Brandi Posey!

6:36 Brandi! Hello! So good to see you in person, Brandi.

6:40 I know, I know. I love your faces in 3D. I love them in 2D, but in 3D.

6:43 I know, look at us.

6:45 So handsome. I know. So, so handsome.

6:48 Been doing a lot of work. Yeah. Been doing a lot of work.

6:50 Been sitting here. A lot of sculpting. Yeah. A lot of cool sculpting to your face.

6:54 No, just hammering. Bone hammering. Or bone smashing, I think is what it's called.

6:58 Bone smash.

6:58 Maxing.

6:59 No, like, this is what Clavicular said. He'd smash his jaw with a hammer to make it.

7:04 I'm like, you're a bit stupid. I don't believe it. I bone smash until it's National Nut Day. You know what I'm saying?

7:09 Hey, up top, hon.

7:10 Up top. Yeah.

7:11 Ha, ha, ha. You know, watching you guys just parade my culture in front of me.

7:17 It is also I come from.

7:19 Yeah.

7:20 Yeah. Beautiful. He does. I love it. Would not appreciate me doing this.

7:25 They're going to bully you like you realize how you were going to Philly was always like a big.

7:31 Yeah. Experience for you. They're going to be Philly to me. Oh my God. Yeah. We were talking about, there was a Instagram clip of a guy who was like from Philly and moved out. I was like, the fuck? Yeah.

7:42 People are like, nice.

7:43 They're all waving to me. And I was saying that I did the reverse commute where I came from like Ohio and to Philly every summer and was just.

7:52 Like, hi!

7:53 And then... Fresh fish!

7:55 Hey, look at Johnny's! Yeah, we got Johnny Fedora over here!

8:00 Joe! It's Johnny Fedora! Yeah, why are all of my uncles chanting fresh fish? It's spooky season. Do you have your big 12-footer?

8:13 Oh, yeah.

8:14 Which one? You got the witch?

8:15 No, I got the 12-foot skeleton.

8:16 The skelly. I got the.

8:18 12-foot skeleton on the side of the house. I got two six-foot skeletons on the porch. And I got a little three-foot guy next to the guest bathroom.

8:25 Damn. He dances. Next to the guest bathroom? Before you walk in?

8:29 Before you walk in. And he's motion-activated. He sings and dances at you a little bit.

8:35 Oh, nice.

8:35 What's he working with?

8:37 What are we singing?

8:38 He sings... Oh, God, hold on. Can I get the song? He goes, Hello, all you ghouls. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

8:44 So it's an original work.

8:45 Dancing around like fools.

8:47 Oh, yeah.

8:47 The rhythm don't stop.

8:49 That's what he does. The rhythm don't stop. There's amazing writing happening in the world of, like, proprietary, like, original songs and, like, what my flying witch says to people is a bizarre, like... really sweaty, long walk till I get to, like, she's like.

9:08 How am I flying, you ask? I'll never tell. But then she, like, keeps talking at you.

9:15 Like a lonely, like, older person.

9:17 Well, it's starting to hold you.

9:19 Yeah, exactly.

9:19 Like, all right, people are backing away. Oh, you're leaving already?

9:23 Exactly. I'm trick-or-treating.

9:25 Joanne Fabrics used to have a skeleton that had the worst jokes in the entire game. Like, I wish I could remember. I have a picture of all of them somewhere, but, like, If you just Google it, you look it up. The skeleton that Joanne's used to have, they were bad. They were horrible puns.

9:40 I was just reading because, you know, like in L.A. at Griffith Park, they have a haunted hayride. Sure. And then in Long Beach, the Queen Mary gets all spooky. Sure.

9:48 People who have gone have both been saying, like, it's just chock full of A.I.

9:51 Bullshit now. Yeah.

9:53 Oh, all the songs are in fucking Suno abominations like the like there's so much ai generated video that it's like people are like it's weird like it's not even like it i prefer lo-fi regular people creativity than like whatever this shit is because it's just i think so many people are used to hearing going this fucking ai that they're like We've lost so much culture.

10:15 Yeah.

10:16 I was just on the ride over here because, you know, Hermesi and I share one car.

10:19 I was taking an Uber.

10:20 The driver was listening to a country station that was all AI.

10:24 What?

10:25 Yeah. i because i was like whatever he's like that is the one like i've seen country songs hit right there are like some country song hits that are ai i feel like yeah i think place that's been most accepted.

10:36 Maybe but i just remember hearing and i and i was just like not to be antagonistic i was like oh who is this yeah just to kind of see you and he's like he's like and he was just like oh it's just a youtube station that i just turn on with like country stuff and i was like oh this is all like you know when you can hear the.

10:51 Voice it's just like you're like That's so weird. Glad you found this.

10:55 There's so much real music. You could just listen to real country forever.

11:00 You could put on a country radio station.

11:03 Yeah. I mean, I listen to AI country music, but it's so that it'll put my name into the song. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got Jack O'Brien in all places. Oh, you're just really just shoehorning into other ones?

11:19 Yeah.

11:20 Country roads and Jack O'Brien.

11:24 Yes.

11:25 All right.

11:25 All about me.

11:26 Oh, yeah.

11:27 Brandy, we're thrilled to have you here. Hey, it's great to be here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better. Let's go. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about those dang protests over in France. What the hell? What the frick is going on over there?

11:40 What's wrong with those people?

11:41 They're burning stuff. Yeah.

11:43 My stars and garters.

11:46 So we're going to talk about that because that is kind of the extent of the coverage in the mainstream media. Nothing else.

11:52 You would think that merely France right now is just a bunch of people.

11:55 Who are really just burning shit. Yep. bunch of freaking high running shit rules. They do. They do. Makes great news.

12:03 Makes great visuals. But yeah, I think the overarching thing is I think people who run corporate media, they don't want people to connect a protest with like effectiveness. So it turns into a thing of like, well, Paris is going to be destroyed because you let immigrants in. And that's the angle that's sort of being pushed right now.

12:21 So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about an update on the Good Morning America co-hosts. There's a Big story, like last month. That's what I thought. Remember, do you remember the Good Morning America co-host TJ Holmes and Amy Robach? Okay. They had good chemistry. They had good chemistry on air.

12:41 Yeah.

12:42 Okay. People are like, God, they have such good chemistry. And they're like, and we're actually really good friends off air. Our husbands and wives, we all hang out together.

12:51 With keys and a bowl?

12:53 Not even. Oh. Because the Daily Mail then revealed like, oh, they're just dating. They're straight up dating one another.

12:59 So that was where we left it. That's where we left it.

13:01 We left it there. Now their respective spouses... Oh, it's been a full white swap. Wow. Swap.

13:11 Oh, I mean, a happy ending.

13:12 I know for everybody.

13:13 Right.

13:14 Exactly.

13:17 Up top. Yeah.

13:20 Yeah. Brand. California.

13:23 My sense of I couldn't I couldn't go there with you.

13:26 Cretans from the east there.

13:28 That's a Philly coming out on.

13:32 And then we'll talk about Nathan Fielder, Elizabeth Holmes, lookalike contest, Halloween costume. Lookalike contest.

13:40 Yeah, I mean, Elizabeth Holmes seems to be an easy one to do, probably.

13:44 Yeah, but I feel people are saying you just wear like the black turtleneck and the red lip. I feel like the real trick is going to be to nail this version of Elizabeth Holmes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need the eyes.

13:55 For sure. I resent her for a lot of reasons, but also the most popular thing I've ever made on the internet. was just a picture comparing her to Chuck E. Cheese because they have the same vacant face. And it was the most popular thing I've ever done.

14:12 I started a comedy label.

14:14 Yes, I know, dude. I work my ass off at making so much good stuff. Just throw that up.

14:20 Don't they look alike?

14:22 Genius!

14:23 Oh my god!

14:24 People arguing with me. You got the wrong mouse. It's actually right. It is the correct answer, but god damn.

14:29 Your manager comes through and is like, we have to change the name of the record label to Don't They Look Alike Records.

14:36 I'm just trying to be like, who's another con artist that looks like a different mouse?

14:40 I'm just chasing it.

14:40 Yeah. Fucking tilting over here. Oh, no.

14:47 Does Shire Bolsonaro look like this? No, fuck.

14:50 Doesn't look like anything like Mighty Mouse.

14:53 All of that, plenty more. But first, we do like to ask our guests. Yeah. What's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

15:01 Well, okay. I'm not a huge horror movie fan. I like spooky. I don't like full-on scary.

15:07 Yeah, same.

15:08 So I recently, my boyfriend was watching Back Rooms, and I was like.

15:12 Oh, yeah, yeah.

15:13 I was like, I'm just gonna read it. So this is what I do with horror movies.

15:16 I didn't mean to read it.

15:17 I went on Wikipedia and I just read the plot. This is what I do with horror movies. If I'm just like, I'd like to know. So I'll just be like, all right, what's happening here? Oh, that's what happens.

15:26 How long was it? Like one paragraph? Because it's a lot of... It was very short. Then he goes into another room. Yeah.

15:32 This one?

15:33 Also a back room. Then his therapist don't believe him. Yeah.

15:37 I walk in and I go, I'm going to get eyes on this. Okay. Now I know what it looks like. Let's go read it.

15:43 Did you get to see his weird... abominations yeah I saw.

15:46 That and I was like I don't I will not watch this but I will find out what happens this is how honestly it's how I watch most horror movies if I'm gonna try to sit and watch something I will just I need to know what's happening ahead of time And.

15:58 That sort of disarms. Yeah.

15:59 All right.

16:00 I know where it's going. Yes, exactly.

16:02 Yeah. Because that I am that level of control freak.

16:05 But yeah, I do the same thing when like a man comes out from a horror film.

16:09 I just have to like.

16:10 Yeah.

16:11 I'm like, I don't fucking tell me why. Yeah. Oh, OK. OK.

16:15 So that's what happened to the older cult members in Midsommar.

16:17 I see. Exactly.

16:18 I'll start getting stressed out if I'm watching. I'll be like, I just need to. Let me just skip ahead and see what's happening.

16:23 Let me spoil this for myself.

16:24 Oh, okay. Yeah, I love to spoil things.

16:26 Have you ever read something and been like, oh! I mean, not really, but just.

16:30 What if I was like, oh, Wikipedia!

16:34 Oh!

16:34 Description of that event.

16:37 I thought Backrooms was terrifying because I'm scared of the color yellow. So that really freaked me out.

16:42 Yeah, that kind of office space. Yeah, yeah. And that too.

16:46 I think the way I came away with it, I was like, it's cool visually, but it's saying nothing. But I expect that from a filmmaker so young.

16:52 Yeah, of course.

16:53 It didn't quite have like a real sort of piercing message. The thing that I liked was like, oh, this is kind of fucking weird though.

16:58 Yeah. Good for you. I'm glad we made some just weird shit. Yeah. All right. I'm interested in the line between spooky and scary though. What is the scariest movie you like? And what is the one that's just right over the edge there for you?

17:12 Right over the edge there for you. I like a Scream.

17:15 You like a Scream.

17:16 I like Scream. I like Evil Dead 1 and 2. I won't watch the new Evil Dead.

17:22 But they're kind of campy.

17:23 There's campiness. I need campy.

17:26 I need a tension breaker.

17:28 I guess the Evil Dead is like as much a love letter to Looney Tunes cartoons as it is like a scary horror movie. Exactly.

17:35 I can handle a couple of jumps. I don't like Grimm. I think I don't like just like a non-funny grim time. I don't, I don't want to watch a dead nun. I don't want to watch like anything like super, super natural. That's not like fun at all.

17:48 Yeah.

17:49 It's not, not for me at all.

17:50 Yeah. Yeah. Like two X supernatural. Yeah. Super, super natural. Did you watch him when he was big?

17:56 I did, and it scared me.

17:57 Yeah, but was that right on the line for you?

17:58 That's right on the line. That's for me.

18:00 I was like, I liked Widow's Bay because it has that. It was like, there's good comedic moments, but still being freaky.

18:07 Yeah. Scary stuff happening in back rooms in that show, I'll tell you what. Yeah. Doug! Dougie Fresh. There it is. Michael Winslow style. I think this should just be what the show is for. I'm Michael Winslow. You've gotten full Michael Winslow. Hey, Delco Man.

18:36 What do you think about that?

18:39 Yay! I'll have some, like, sound effects.

18:41 Yeah, we did an old school clacker thing.

18:44 Yeah.

18:45 Podcasts are at a point now where we're either becoming full talk shows or morning zoo crews.

18:50 We're fighting for our fucking lives right now. We're fighting for our fucking lives. You don't know what we are.

18:59 You don't know what it's like. Brandy, what's something you think is underrated? Okay, I like doing my underrated overrateds together. So my overrated is... the descent of child stars, and my underrated is the descent of child influencers. because we haven't seen how dark that's going to get yet. Oh, sure, sure, sure.

19:25 But we have seen so many things about how dark child stars, how horrible their lives go, you know, whatever. But, man, we're only just... I saw a child influencer today who, number one, they shouldn't exist, just like child stars shouldn't exist.

19:38 Yeah, we're billionaires.

19:39 I saw one today who, yeah, of course, we're billionaires, you know.

19:42 Billionaires, child influencers. I actually blame the child influencers for the state of the world more than billionaires. That's a little thing about me and my political.

19:50 position.

19:50 Very like right wing conservative take. Find anything else. Yeah, yeah. Anything else besides wealth disparity.

19:57 I just saw a kid today whose whole thing is he loves toilets. And he's got, he's got like a million followers and they keep just sending, he's like, Oh man, the tank on, he knows every part of a toilet. And I was like, what's this going to be like a 40? You're going to be a man. That's just yelling.

20:13 He's like, Eight or nine.

20:17 Yeah.

20:17 He's really young.

20:18 And like, that's a great video for your family.

20:20 Yes.

20:20 Why are you monetizing that and putting it on the internet?

20:22 Thank you.

20:23 And that like, if I was watching, I was like, this is a, this is going to be dark. This is a dark life.

20:28 Because there's then pressure. Yes. From outside to stay.

20:32 This is a thing.

20:32 Like kids go through very intense things. very strange what's my identity yes in one word yeah toilet you can't be like can't have a manager like anchor you to that one thing where you're like I'm actually not that into toilets.

20:46 Anymore exactly we're getting a lot of heat on the toilet stuff so man let's go let's keep them coming let's keep them coming I've moved on to bathtub oh god no there's already a kid you know Rachel Baths.

20:55 Exactly she's got a whole account well and like I have an I have an adult influence that I've been following that I've just I've been watching her descent happen and she now has like gone up she doesn't have the followers she used to now she just like is doing TikTok hair tutorials in a warehouse with like five other women in front of ring lights.

21:12 And it's deeply dark to me. Oh, like in like a content farm kind of thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

21:15 And like a content, and she'll show backstage like, isn't it so fun? And I'm like, this is Black Mirror shit, but you're an adult who consented to this entire, this entire ride. So like the kids that aren't even aware, it just like, I'm just like, oh, we have true bad things coming.

21:30 Yeah, it's going to be different, right?

21:31 Because child actors, like they're at the will of like the, old traditional entertainment industry that doesn't exist anymore. And like, these are like, they're probably just getting tormented by their close family who are their managers and shit. But I think the closest comparison we have generationally to me feels like when kids were really good at sports in high school, that was like the closest you could have a thing where they go, why aren't you doing sports?

21:56 That was like your thing.

21:57 And everyone goes, their thing is sports. That kid's good at football or baseball or basketball. They're going to they might be a professional one day and then you get to like they don't get they don't go d1 or they get injured right and then like either like i've seen kids have a real tough time with like readjusting your expectations for yourself in that sense totally you know or they kind of just like kind of get real and they're like actually i'm like a fucking buddhist monk now yeah good for you.

22:21 Yeah when one of the parents leaves their job when toilet kids influencer dad is like actually i have a I've stepped down from my position to really focus on, he, he got 800,000 likes on his video. Yeah. Right. Exactly.

22:36 The toilet kid is the breadwinner in the family.

22:38 Yeah.

22:39 Nothing good is coming.

22:40 We're going to build on this.

22:42 I think, yeah, it's like the lesson for, especially for something like social media money, like getting money from Tik TOK, Instagram stuff is like, dude, you like, can you got to act like that shit is not going to be forever.

22:54 Sure. Yes.

22:54 No, so many, like there's a, I was just reading about somebody who's like, like one of these only fans, people just bought like a, it's like fucking.

23:01 Like $ 9 million house or something.

23:04 And then like, clearly the algorithm shifted and they're in a completely different landscape now.

23:09 And they're like, I don't know what to do or whatever. It's like, you shouldn't have fucking, just fucking build a pile of money and then figure out what you're going to do. Don't just spend like, it's never going to fucking go. You just like make the algorithm. You're a God. Did you ever see the one, like the guy who was doing all those weird videos with his kids? And he like, They were like chasing the algorithm in these really weird ways. And it ended up being like these videos.

23:32 They made like hundreds of videos that had huge likes, but it was out of a horror. Like, because he's just there being like, I'm silly, doopy, dopey dad. And like, it was just like.

23:43 I remember like with Ryan's toy reviews. I remember we talked about how he started off with this kid doing toy reviews.

23:50 And then the dad like inserted himself in the feature film. Yeah.

23:54 And like completely was like, I'm also good at Hollywood. And you're like, you've ruined your kid's career because you insist you're actually also some kind of star.

24:02 Yeah, boy, it's just so dark out there. Yeah.

24:06 Any anything where you're making your real life into a product that you're monetizing is really going to fuck with your head like as an adult. yeah yeah as a kid like i can't like it's beyond like fucked up at least those at least uh you know the cory's got to come home from the set you know.

24:25 Yeah exactly the phone wasn't a constant thing you weren't like you know the algorithm wasn't driving you or not or like you weren't reading comments all the time you know it's.

24:34 There's an amazing clip of nathan fielder going viral of where he like did this video where he's at a like living in a content house with like 18 year old TikTok influencers.

24:44 Oh yeah.

24:45 Yeah. Yeah. Oh wow. People are like rediscovering it because he's like becoming famous with people who didn't know about that. But it's just, it is one of the darkest things you've ever seen where he's just like, you know, chasing them around, he's like, I don't like them talking to their parents because it creates this weird adult energy that brings it down and then he's like.

25:08 Do you remember there were all the Lime Scooter houses around in West Hollywood where you'd be like, oh, there's an influencer house here because there's just gaggly kids on scooters with cameras outside. You could just feel like, oh, there's a bad place nearby. Yeah, yeah.

25:24 Yeah, I've been to a couple of them. They're not as good as you think they're going to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're always checking my ID or some shit. I'm like, dude, I'm fucking 23 too. What the fuck?

25:33 Come on.

25:34 You never heard of it? All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about France. Yep. What the fuck is going on with those guys? We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back.

25:56 Yeah.

25:56 Seen this? You heard about this? Seen this? You heard about this? That is like a, I feel like the level of introspection that is happening in response to this is like the Jay Leno thing. level of introspection where they're like, seen this? You heard about this? New French Revolution, I guess.

26:14 A bunch of dancing French fries. They're burning their baguettes over there, it looks like.

26:18 Burning your baguettes? What the fuck are you talking about?

26:22 Pepe Le Pew is the resistance.

26:24 Yeah.

26:25 Whoa, I bet they're saying it's Sacre Bleu, huh?

26:29 It's not what's going on.

26:31 I mean, yeah, obviously the protests that we started a few weeks ago originating from young people saying our public education system is fucking falling apart.

26:42 Demonstrably, noticeably.

26:45 We don't have pathways to get into higher learning because of the system that exists right now. We feel like our fucking futures are being robbed before our eyes and we are children.

26:57 Yeah.

26:58 And that morphed into a lot of other, you know, coalesce into a much larger thing where people are also talking.

27:03 About the cost of living. And there's protests everywhere happening right now across the globe.

27:08 Go Costa Rica in Africa. There's all kinds of things. People are living under the same pressures of inequality. And we're we're seeing the breaking point get more and more vivid right now.

27:19 Again.

27:20 That's for people who bother to actually be like, well, why are they protesting? Because I think for us, we go, well, you're protesting because something's.

27:26 Terribly gone wrong.

27:28 And you're trying to get the word out and you're trying to demonstrate you're doing something.

27:32 You're bringing attention to something.

27:33 Right wing media has now turned this into their like big October story to try and get more conservatives to the polls.

27:40 Yeah.

27:41 You know, the media matters did like this whole analysis where they're like, man, the emphasis on these French protests is phenomenal. crazy outsized considering like this is a midterm like we're going into the midterm peak season right now not as much mention aside from the look what they're doing there and this is also because they allow muslim people and progressives leftists to have this green red alliance and this.

28:05 Is what you get green red alliance yeah media matters pointed out that it's It's kind of predictable that Fox is going to have something to freak out about, like in the run-up, usually something happening in another country. So 2014, Ebola. I don't remember that they were like, Ebola's coming for you.

28:24 Democrats want you to have Ebola. That was a hard one to connect the dots to. Yeah.

28:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

28:30 But that's D tier. 2018, migrant caravans. The caravans was big.

28:34 The caravans was big. Did way bigger numbers than Ebola.

28:37 It was crazy how they just completely disbanded the day after the election.

28:40 Yep.

28:40 The migrant caravans just... They were heading... very slowly towards the border. It was like one of those things you like cut back and forth.

28:50 Yeah, which is funny.

28:51 It's like, wait, so the Democrats win the House and then they're like, all right, no more caravans.

28:55 Yeah, caravan actually went away.

28:56 You hit that harder and be like, what happened? They won. America's crime crisis in 2022.

29:01 Yep.

29:01 And now we've got, of course, the French rioting and looting.

29:07 Yep.

29:08 That's what the Democrats want for you.

29:10 Yeah, it's a very, like, again, all of this emphasis purely being about completely removing the responsibility of the state and just focusing on young people and going, oh, they're burning things down. I see constant posts on the internet, like on Twitter or Instagram, where clearly they're just feeding this sensational footage to just feed people this sort of sentiment that, like, well, protesting is bad. Right.

29:37 And obviously, like, sure. I think most people like, yeah, you don't make your point by burning down like some small little cheese shop or whatever. Sure. Yeah.

29:45 But again, there's also, you know, there's so many people who take advantage of these moments, too.

29:50 Agent provocateurs as they're called um and that's what i call them yeah our agent provocateurs we engaged the agent provocateur uh.

30:03 Yeah yeah and again and again this is just i it's it's such uh i think a really convenient marriage of talking points for conservatives because Domestically, they're dealing with the rise of progressive policies and politicians and even people further left of even progressives that are gaining traction. And you have our inbuilt love of xenophobia or hatred of foreigners in America. So being it, this is what you get when you let foreigners in your country plus progress equals everything burns down.

30:39 Plus we love to shit on the French.

30:42 Yeah, they do. I know.

30:43 It's crazy. I'm like, they're amazing people that actually don't take shit from their government at all.

30:49 Yeah.

30:50 We could take a lesson.

30:51 God damn. It's wild.

30:53 And like, I just want to point out this other thing I was reading, right? There was this op-ed in Business Insider.

30:59 Yeah.

30:59 Where this was it.

31:01 So all the other scaremongering didn't work on me. You know, they're like, this is coming for you. I'm like, oh, because people can't afford to live. And they're like, no, because Muslims. And I was like, OK, that doesn't really make sense. But then this one actually scared me. This is I just want to read the headline of this. Yeah.

31:21 I went to Paris to see Celine Dion in memory of my mom. I ended up trapped in an Uber during the riots.

31:27 Yeah. Yeah. So it could happen to you as well.

31:32 Oh, Brandy, does this look like somebody who's in touch with the anger of the proletariat?

31:39 Oh, no. So this woman has like a leopard skin. Leopard skin. Yeah. Almost feels very African.

31:46 Feels very coming to America.

31:47 Yeah. It's an essay written by this woman, Rebecca Mack, who owns Cosmetic Finance Group.

31:54 Let's take a second. It was written by Claude.

31:56 Yeah.

31:58 I don't think she's a writer. The preamble says this as told to Claude essay or chat GPT. So yeah, she owns a cosmetic finance group. She does a finance company. She owns a finance company and MC aesthetics, a cosmetic clinic group. She again, she's, this is how it starts off. My mom, I went to Paris to see Celine Dion in memory of my mom. My mom had loved Celine for years. We had tickets to see her before the pandemic in Manchester before she died. But the show was canceled.

32:31 She never got to see her perform. She goes on to then do all this stuff about how she said she was at the at the hotel and the hotel.

32:39 People said, don't go out there. You're the perfect victim.

32:42 Oh, and so this whole thing is about how she was too scared to leave because the people told her she was the perfect victim.

32:48 She was in an Uber.

32:50 And she was stuck and she was so scared that she said the Uber driver made me get out. But we said, no, not in the riots. And then luckily the cops moved some of the barricades so cars could travel to the venue. And then it's the last part.

33:04 I just want to read the last sentence here. Don't make me get out. It's rioting outside right now. Yeah.

33:11 She said, I'm so grateful I saw Celine on Friday. It is a memory I will remember forever. Oh, so she ended up seeing her.

33:16 So she made it.

33:17 So she made it. She made it to the show.

33:19 But Jack, she got scared on the way there. Oh, she got scared. Yeah, she got scared. She had a scary commute. She got scared. Yeah. Hey, go try to see Celine in Philly. Yeah. All right.

33:29 She says, I'm so grateful I saw Celine on Friday. It is a memory I will remember forever. But I'm very upset and disappointed because I do like to go to Paris quite a lot. The whole experience made me lose my love for Paris a bit.

33:42 Wow. There wasn't a single fucking word. No. About what was happening. It was just that we're here.

33:48 Guys in masks were burning stuff and yelling and banging on my Uber window. And I was almost late to the Celine Dion concert. And now I'm like, not really into Paris as much.

33:59 You're losing.

34:00 Yeah. It's like the billionaires who are like, when Mamdani gets elected, we're moving out. She's like, if this happens again. like three more times, I might stop going to Paris. No, you won't.

34:09 We'll be late to Celine. Celine Dion's also like, get my name out of your fucking mouth.

34:13 Yeah, right. She's like, please don't. And again, a lot of people in France are like, this is important. Yeah.

34:18 Yeah.

34:18 Like, we understand why these people are frustrated. We're fucking, we got our backs to the wall too, but we're so older, we're older and tired.

34:25 Yeah.

34:26 Our ability to push back is not as dynamic as young people who have so.

34:32 Much more to fucking fight for.

34:33 It's their future.

34:34 Yeah.

34:35 And, uh, Yeah, so again, this whole thing too, the other thing that I really realized too, this is also elegantly increases Islamophobia, which is very, I'm sure, welcomed for people who are, you know, defending what Israel is doing too. Because drumming up more Islamophobia makes what's happening in Gaza more excusable, right?

34:55 If the tone of Islamophobia is like, well, yeah.

34:57 Yeah, Islamophobia is kind of like de facto at this point, then it makes it much harder to empathize with what's happening to Palestinian people.

35:03 But it's just.

35:04 it's a very opportunistic moment to use that. And again, you know, cause they're even using, and a lot of this coverage, you're like, you want to see the other, these other hybrid leftist Islamists.

35:14 Right. Look at Zoran Mamdani. Sure.

35:16 Look, you're freaking.

35:17 Yeah, look what he's done already. Look what he's done. Look at Abdul El-Sayed.

35:20 Look at the horrible stuff.

35:21 Look at the latest, look at the latest headline is about Zoran Mamdani.

35:24 He said, he's, he's looking into making sure companies don't force you to use AI chat bots. And if you need it to speak to a human, that it's a very easy option to speak to a human to have your problem solved.

35:35 You happy now, New York? How dare you?

35:37 I was just in New York. The rats are skipping with joy down the streets. The vibes are immaculate.

35:44 I saw the rats doing will do before they were going to the temple for the mosque.

35:49 They were going to pray. It is a very easy story to connect what's happening in France and what's happening politically with this election. It would just be like, Well, they seem unhappy with affordability, the very thing that's driving, you know, a potential blue wave in America. And somehow they've that doesn't get mentioned at all. And they've like found this way to like pretzel themselves. Muslims and Muslims and leftists have decided to come together and burn everything down if they win the election. This is what Democrats are.

36:25 Chuck Schumer is going to dye his hair blue. He's going to get in those streets.

36:28 He's going to have that blue barcode at the top of his head.

36:32 Slicked back. Looking great. Real piece of shit. Looking great. It's frustrating because.

36:39 The message, I think it's so clear to people who understand what the stakes are, but then you have an entire media apparatus and like right-wing propaganda machine, because also this is helping elevate like right-wing voices in France too.

36:52 Of course. All the American freaks are like, well, look at what this guy said. He's, he's over there.

36:56 Yeah.

36:57 Uh, and we get, again, trying to separate people from understanding what, like, how exactly their oppression is playing out, like, in their day-to-day life.

37:07 Yeah.

37:08 And connecting it to all the problems we have here in the country and being like, hey, we're actually all the same and, like, let this empower you to also stand with your business.

37:15 You know? Yeah. Yeah. And it's not just, like, Fox News and right-wing, you know, it's, you know, they're protesting against Macron. Macron is like, these are outside agitators who are burning things down, you know, they want it to seem like, you know, there's an article in The Atlantic, Jacobin, like, kind of quoted this, Article by this guy who sounds like very working class, Thomas Chatterton Williams. Oh, Chatterton.

37:38 Mr.

37:38 Chatterton Williams. Chatterton Williams.

37:40 Yes.

37:40 I can feel how.

37:42 Small the chin is. Much of the protesting by students has become an exercise in nihilistic resentment beneath the pretext of school reform. And then he just, like, connects everything back to, like, this is not how to do it. You know, they're always asking for protesters to do it in a way that's, like, more convenient, which kind of doesn't really align with.

38:05 Don't challenge the state.

38:07 Yeah, yeah.

38:07 And also, to be fair, Mr. Chatterton-Williams definitely went to an all-boys boarding school where he was beaten every day by a head mouse. Yeah, head or gut.

38:15 Head or gut, Chatterton. Yeah. Guts today, I suppose. LAUGHTER Today's gut day.

38:22 Variety's the spice of love.

38:26 Oh, I think your fist touched my spine.

38:30 I'll duel you after lunch. I must go to the infirmary after that.

38:36 I do think that this is something that we're in for as, you know, cost of living becomes a bigger and bigger, clearer and clearer issue that people that is like driving, you know, people to protest and push back around the country and like vote in certain directions is just completely getting rid of that context because it's not just the right that can't acknowledge that it's also the you know neoliberal like mainstream democratic party and the you know new york times and the atlantic and people like that they so they have to find a way to obscure that message and make it about something yeah that's not.

39:13 Beholden to capital yeah yeah the other thing too that doesn't ever get talked about to the fucking French police also fucking killed a murderous shit they're doing you know what I mean like I think that's the thing we've all we all have seen this version in our whatever country you live in to some degree right like i can look at that surely obviously the to the extent that the protests are happening in france it wasn't really like what the kind of stuff we normally see in the u.s maybe save like 2020 but we're also acutely aware of you know the police's love of state violence to silence people when, again, they have legitimate grievances.

39:51 This isn't just kids being like.

39:53 Ah, friggin' scooter e-bikes are too expensive. I can't do a wheelie down to Champs-Élysées.

39:58 They're fucking.

39:59 I can't do a wee-wee down to Champs-Élysées. A wheelie.

40:03 A wee-wee. I was like.

40:05 A wee-wee. A wee-wee.

40:08 Just getting that thing on one wheel, bro. But again, the thing that really.

40:13 It's so vivid for me is because you think... again, we think about how much our future is going to completely depart from what we thought it's going to be, you know, whether it's from a climate standpoint or inequality thing. And to see that these people at this age are so clear about like how few options they're going to have because of this current system we live under, it breaks my heart. And also I'm just like, more people need to actually understand and see what's happening here.

40:42 Yeah.

40:42 No, and it's our job to fucking back them.

40:44 Yeah, exactly.

40:45 And, you know, be like, our future's tied to them. They're the future.

40:48 Yeah, yeah.

40:49 This guy on Instagram was saying something like, it was just like, sort of like, you know, sometimes when you're older, you got.

40:53 To learn how to ride sidecar. Yeah.

40:55 Someone else's revolution.

40:56 Yeah. And figure out how you rah-rah it and support it.

40:59 And I'll tell you what, millennials are real good at that sidecar. We never got to be in the front seat, so we're pros.

41:05 Hey, we'll make some good memes.

41:07 Yeah.

41:07 I'll bring food.

41:08 Too look elizabeth holmes looks like chucky cheese.

41:11 Yeah hey it's the elizabeth holmes looks like chucky cheese lady.

41:18 Can we just do it with a little less property damage though yeah it is they're like these are outside agitators they've had 7 000 arrests since the protest started and 85 percent of them are between the ages of 14 and 18 yeah so it's like yeah i don't think it's I think it's outside agitators. I think it's actually students.

41:38 Well, I think, yeah, they use outside agitators to try and say like, they're not that mad.

41:42 Yeah.

41:43 I mean, that's what it, rather than like trying to explain like the property damage or whatever. It's like, no, they're not, there's, this isn't actually people who have.

41:49 A grievance with how we're doing things here.

41:51 They're just agitating for something like this.

41:53 No, exactly.

41:54 Also, I can't believe this lady did not take the opportunity to go steal herself a Hermes bag or something like that.

41:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:59 Like, she looks up at me like, oh, it's time to go shopping.

42:02 I know. She was like, until we were stopped beside a Louis Vuitton store that was being ransacked. And I said, do they have anything in a Europe 42? Let's take a quick break and then we're going to come back and we're going to talk about what everybody's... here for which is a conversation about wife swapping we'll be right back all right and we're back and man first of all this is just a story about the fact that uh we've been doing this show for way too long uh the the story was four years ago 2022 is when it broke Yeah. Oh, yeah.

42:47 I just missed this.

42:48 Yeah.

42:49 I just remember at the time it was just like one of those things. Oh, it was kind of like this love story to be like, they love each other, though.

42:58 It was just funny as a nation did the K-I-S-S-I-N-G. Oh, T.J.

43:02 And Amy sitting in a tree.

43:04 So, again, yes, this is the story about the Good Morning America anchors, T.J.

43:09 Holmes and Amy Robach.

43:11 They were married at the time. And they said they had great chemistry.

43:14 Not to one another.

43:15 Till the Lloyds frigging outed them as a couple. And they went public. And then everyone was like, oh, wow.

43:23 They're together. People loved it. People loved it.

43:26 People loved it.

43:27 People loved it.

43:28 And there was no, I'm not sure if it was necessarily like a salacious affair, if they were like legally married or whatever.

43:34 Regardless.

43:35 Yeah. I have a feeling when you're married to another person, it's probably not the best situation for the other spouse. So now we're hearing something out of a TV show. Their exes are now about to get married. What? So Amy Robach's ex, Melrose Place star Andrew Hsu. Yes, brother of Elizabeth Hsu, if you had to ask. And Marilee Feibig, who was TJ Holmes' ex, are now officially engaged.

44:02 Wow. Wow.

44:03 Now, TJ and Amy, they just got married last month or some shit. But this is what Andrew Hsu had to say. He's very grateful and hopeful about the engagement and said that after growing closest friends, he and Marilee have found their, quote, happy ending together as they plan their wedding.

44:20 National Nut Day. Oh, boy. I think there it is. Damn it. Damn it. We were almost a news show. Now we're back to Morning Zoo. He was a member of Cobra Kai.

44:31 Oh, shit.

44:31 Andrew Shue? Andrew Shue was apparently Peter from Cobra Kai. Oh.

44:37 Sick.

44:37 I mean, they're a good-looking couple, though. They are a handsome couple. They look great. They're kind of hotter than TJ and Amy. They are.

44:44 I actually think so, yeah. I'm happy for everybody involved. Do you think the exes get invited to the wedding?

44:51 I don't know. Yeah, where are we on speaking terms?

44:54 We're all just good.

44:56 You know, what about that? This is him in Cobra Kai. He's not one of the main blondies. He's just kind of a background Cobra Kai. Jack, that could be you. That could be me. Oh, wow. You should get a black karate gi one year. Cut the sleeves off, dude. Be Cobra Kai. I like over laugh because I already have one. Yeah, I'll probably get one next year or something.

45:18 Not this year. Definitely don't already have one. Sweat stains under the arms. Are you okay?

45:23 Yeah, but I feel like I see stories like this. You hear about like, oh, people ended up with the other person's spouse, but it's usually like elderly people.

45:32 They're like, we were the four best friends until our partners died. And then we are now together. And then rather than going through the process of meeting someone new, we just figured, why not? Yeah, exactly. I think the best example, the most famous example, there were two Yankees pitchers who were pitchers on the same team. rotation for the Yankees in the late or early 70s. And Their families hung out together all the time. That's how it starts. Exactly.

46:04 So this is a lesson to anyone, okay? That's why our wives don't want us to hang out. Exactly. Because she's like, are you worried about Miles and Jack?

46:13 You got to have an uggo couple friend. That's how you keep it good.

46:18 No, don't hang out with your podcast host friends. No, no, no. Widely known for trading families with teammate Mike Kekich. In the early 1970s. It's pronounced cuck-itch. And it should be because it's kind of wild. I always heard the story that they switched, but it was really like, it's clearly this one couple wanted it and the other couple was just like, oh, okay. They didn't stay together for more than a couple of weeks. The other couple.

46:46 That's a lot of trauma bonding.

46:47 Yeah. Yeah. the couple that like lasted to like old age was like a guy who was an all-star pitcher. And so he basically was like, Hey, I think we should trade wives to the guy who, after they traded wives, he was traded away like that season. Oh, damn.

47:07 After it went south.

47:09 Wow. So it's like really, wait, I don't understand. That's how it was just, it was just a proposal? He's like, hey, bro, what if like, we don't know exactly what happened. What we know is they came to spring training in March 1973 and announced that they were trading wives and children.

47:29 Oh. Yeah.

47:30 I guess to get the wives to go along with it? Are they so sports-brained? We're like, yeah, we're doing a draft.

47:36 Yeah, there's a bracket system for which wife.

47:39 She's like, first pick. I'm actually going to take your son, dude. He seems pretty cool. No, you're cool too, Junior. You're cool too, Junior. Look, if you're around in the next round, I'll definitely think about you.

47:51 The stats on this kid, though. Peterson and the former Susan Kekich remained married, but the relationship between Kekich and Marilyn Peterson only lasted a few months. Oh, man. The kids just had to be given back to the store, I guess. I don't know. Did they have a receipt? By June, the Yankees traded Kekic. Oh, man. Oh, wow.

48:12 So Peterson must just be world-class sociopath.

48:19 Because he was like, okay... I get your wife. I get your kids.

48:24 And then I go to the Yankees and I'm like, that didn't actually work out. Now it's kind of awkward for me to be around him. And the Yankees were like, yeah, get this deadbeat out of here.

48:32 I'm feeling like that's why I'm kind of in a slump right now.

48:34 Because he's around. He's kind of freaking me out.

48:36 Did they go to the World Series that year is the question. I don't think they did. What's his record look like after the switch? Because this could just be like a superstitious thing.

48:46 Oh, yeah. Baseball players are super superstitious.

48:50 Yeah.

48:50 They finished second in the AL East in 1970.

48:54 Not good enough. What season was this, you said? This was 73. Oh, 73? Mm-hmm. They finished fourth in the AL East. Wow.

49:03 Yeah.

49:03 Not worth it. Not worth it. I wonder why. You hear about clubhouse problems. I can't imagine why this would have caused anything.

49:11 What's Peterson's explanation?

49:13 Oh, Miles, it's actually a pretty beautiful story, according to Peterson.

49:17 Quote, it's a love story. It wasn't anything. dirty.

49:20 Peterson told a reporter in 2013. Do we have to say that?

49:23 Yeah.

49:24 I could not be happier with anybody in the world. Mama and I go out and party every night. No.

49:31 We're still on the honeymoon and it has been a real blessing.

49:35 That's in 2013. That's in 2013. He is like. It's a love story. Have you seen I Think You Should Leave? I basically did the relationship equivalent of Give me that. Give me that. My wife? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Kekich.

49:52 Give me your wife, please.

49:54 You want a bite of mine? A bite? No, no. You get out of here. Is Mike Kekich okay? And the other lady, are they okay? That's a tough one. Yeah.

50:02 Family style. Doing a relationship spook of the Beppo style.

50:07 Oh, my God. In 74, he went to Japan to play baseball. Damn, man. Oh, man. You come over with your family and they're like, oh, have you dined with us before? We do things a little bit differently here. I get your wife and kids. We do things differently. Give me that.

50:21 What?

50:23 You can have mine if you want, but you probably don't. But, you know, if you want, I'm a little bit tired of them. Wow.

50:29 Oh, so first he went to Cleveland, then he went to Japan.

50:33 Wow. You love to see it. You do love your Fritz Peterson. Yep. We were actually talking about the famous show wife swap for some reason. And, uh, super producer Justin was, uh, pointed out that there was a Chappelle show sketch, uh, sketch called spouse swap, trading spouse, trading spouses, trading spouses. And that actually came before the TV show.

50:58 Somebody saw that and was like, let's do that.

51:00 Wait a second.

51:01 I wonder if like the trading spaces, people are like their first idea was wife swap. And then like, Let's ease the public into this concept. What if people switched rooms in their houses to design? And then we'll get up to that.

51:13 Yeah.

51:14 And there's an era of reality TV that was so much more unhinged.

51:18 They were like human rights violations, basically. And also the way they were produced.

51:22 I had a friend who worked on Elimidate.

51:25 You remember that one? Oh, yeah. That was the MTV one, right?

51:27 Yeah.

51:28 No, no, no. Elimidate.

51:30 It's a truck full of suitors, right? It was like a truck full of them, right?

51:34 Yeah.

51:34 Yeah.

51:34 And it would go, eliminate. And yeah, exactly. They'd come out of a bus.

51:38 I think you're thinking of Next. MTV's Next, I believe. Let me use my stupid memory for that one. All of those shows at the time, like Shipmates. Do you remember Shipmates? Where they would put a blind date couple on a fucking cruise ship?

51:53 Wow.

51:53 And then just feed them fucking alcohol and like let the, let shit just completely devolve on camera. Like where you would see, like looking from our perspective now, like this guy's like an abusive fucking freak who's losing it because he thought like this woman was going to hook up with him and he's too drunk to like figure it out.

52:09 Yeah. And that was just like the whole format. Like, I don't know, let the guy crash out on camera drunk. Yeah, yeah.

52:13 Shocking no one got thrown overboard.

52:15 That we know of.

52:16 That we know of. That's very true.

52:18 That we know of, yeah. So much of reality television is like, what if like we got people drunk, but didn't acknowledge that they were drunk and just pretended this is how people be. Yeah, exactly. Behind the scenes. They're like, you need more booze? You need more booze? I feel like you're a little thirsty.

52:33 Yeah.

52:34 Another friend worked on Jersey Shore, like who used to work on real world. And I remember she was saying that that first season, they were so used to the production culture of boozing up your, your cast people to get them to do shit on camera. She was like, This was the first show we didn't do a single fucking thing.

52:52 Oh, because they were just getting after it themselves.

52:54 And they were like, hey, we're about to go to this other place. I'm like, what? I thought you guys were hanging out. They're like, no, no, we're going up. Like, shit. Okay. We got the camera crew together. They're like, they were fucking moving.

53:03 They could barely keep up.

53:04 They couldn't keep up with the fucking Jersey Shore cast people. They were naturals. They knew.

53:09 They knew. They were in their element.

53:10 They were in their element.

53:12 Well, congrats to the happy newish couple.

53:15 Yeah. I hope they go the distance. I hope so.

53:18 If anything, out of spite. If anything, just spite.

53:22 That is a good interview question.

53:24 Some of it is spite. 5%?

53:27 Is it 40%? How much of it is you picturing the other couple in your head as.

53:33 I think that's hard to stop at a certain point.

53:36 I get it.

53:37 Or if they're like.

53:42 it's actually none of that. Like, we don't think about that at all. Like, they don't know, they don't realize that that's what it's about. Yeah.

53:48 Or the Good Morning America, I don't watch the show. Are they still the hosts?

53:52 No, no, no. I think they've moved on.

53:53 Yeah.

53:54 I think they were fired for it, right? Or like, one of them was? Yeah, it could have been. It feels like it was treated like a scandal in a way that I was like, well, not really.

54:04 Because according to them, they said, functionally, they were all saying like, the marriages were pretty much over.

54:09 Sure, sure.

54:09 So it wasn't like, so they weren't, That's why these couples are not being like, they're cheating pieces of shit. They were just like, yeah, shit was fucking cooked anyway.

54:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say this.

54:19 He did say, this is what Andrew Hsu said, quote, I had to accept my own part in marriage not working out for me and not understanding myself well enough and not understanding what matters in a relationship well enough to find the right person for me. And that has been an extraordinary gift. I had to grow through a lot of pain and a lot of struggle and a lot of humility. I think the magic of love is when you go from a need to giving.

54:38 Hey, that's a man that's been to some therapy.

54:40 Hell yeah. So it feels very like everyone's kind of like, yeah, all's well that ends well, pretty much.

54:45 Good.

54:45 Yeah.

54:46 You know, good for everybody.

54:47 And I'm saying, bro, this is the hotter couple, man. Yeah. You guys are killing it. You guys are killing it. This is what it should have been. I will say the story update that I'm waiting for is the wife of the guy from the Coldplay concert.

55:03 Yeah.

55:04 Hooking up with Chris Martin from Coldplay. Oh. That would be.

55:08 That's a fun full circle.

55:10 That would be a lot of fun.

55:11 Yeah.

55:11 I'm doing the Britney Broski to that one.

55:13 Yeah. Okay.

55:15 National Nut Dandy.

55:16 Yeah. National Nut Dandy. And finally, continued fallout from the hit movie, You Can See Everything. Oh, yeah. Have you seen it? Not yet. Oh, okay.

55:28 No, I've been.

55:29 Never mind.

55:31 No, I've read a lot about it. I just haven't had three hours.

55:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's worth your three hours.

55:36 But we've moved to the next phase of this being like a culture phenomenon.

55:40 Yeah, it's going to be... It's one of the top couples costumes for Halloween. I didn't think about that. Nathan Fielder and Elizabeth Holmes, which people are saying, you could always go as a Billy Evans and Pamela Henderson, which is a reference that you don't get, but.

55:57 Not yet, not yet, but you will. And you'll love it.

56:02 Our writer, Jan was pointing out that like, I think people are just going with black turtleneck, bright red lip for Elizabeth Holmes.

56:09 Yeah.

56:10 But for Nathan, the thing that you really need to lock down is that $ 7. 99 Hamilton Bull schoolmate headphones. Yeah. Wow, people got the exact model. I had this in the back of my mind the whole movie. So he's like... listening to the audio that they're getting the whole time. So he has these headphones on the whole time and they look like the oldest, like the, the ones that are made out of that cheap black foam, you know, that's like, uh, has a lot in common with the sock they give you when you're trying on shoes at the like really fully disposed. Yeah.

56:48 Yeah.

56:48 Yeah. One time use. But I was like, I was assuming that like, that can't be what it is, that it has to be like some expensive piece of sound equipment. that just looks like that.

56:59 I have a feeling if it's the sound guy who's providing it, it's probably part of a whole kit for that whole wireless setup for him to have the monitor. The guy with the cans is like, dude, I blow through these fucking things constantly. I'm not going to fucking spend $ 100. I get them for $ 8.

57:12 They don't need to be super high fidelity.

57:14 Yeah.

57:14 They get the job done. Thank you, Hamilton Bowl Schoolmate Headphone.

57:18 Yeah, it's like a waitress with a pen. You borrow it, they lose it. They're like, no, I'm not getting the good stuff. You're just getting the cheap shit.

57:24 This is a fucking bick full. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have fun with it. Also, multiple lookalike contests being held in New York. a la Timothy Chalamet contest.

57:33 New York is the fucking like capital of impromptu lookalike contests.

57:37 Is it in Washington Square Park? Like all of them are?

57:40 It is in Washington Square Park.

57:42 1 p.m. Sunday, October 25th in Washington Square Park. Elizabeth Holmes, Nathan Fielder lookalike contest. And then there's also just Nathan Fielder lookalike contests happening.

57:53 I'm just really excited for all the guys that are going prematurely gray to just really have their season.

57:58 Let's go.

58:00 It's always looked good, but now you're even more validated. It's great.

58:03 Yeah, I feel like Brent Weinbach kind of looks like Nathan Fielder. Yeah, he could do well, for sure. I mean, he's got his own thing going.

58:09 Right.

58:09 Obviously, but you know. I think Nathan Fielder should enter a Brent Weinbach lookalike contest.

58:13 Let's talk about that.

58:14 Yep.

58:15 What about that, maybe?

58:16 Yeah, Nathan, you too good? What's going on?

58:19 I feel like he's going to show up to these himself.

58:22 Yeah, probably.

58:23 If anything, this was put on by Nathan Fielder. That's like a larger PSYOP.

58:28 Yeah. And he's just like, he's going to be in the shadows like this.

58:31 How many times do you think the CIA has approached him and been like, hey, would you be interested?

58:36 He's like, no, I'm Canadian. We love the way your mind works.

58:39 Yeah. We have a little bit of that juice. It would be really interesting.

58:43 He's like, what would you have done with Gaddafi? I want to see how you think about stuff. How do we know he wasn't already? How do we know that Venezuela was not just a buzz marketing campaign for that sweatsuit?

58:59 I mean, honestly, I don't put anything past it.

59:01 The Nathan Fielder episode, he goes to a struggling Nike, and he's like, and the challenge, get the Nike tech suit trending again.

59:09 And he's like, okay. we're going to take Maduro and you put him in a Nike tech suit. Send him 20 of these for free. Just see. Just see what happens. I mean, then it also lost all of.

59:19 Its fucking cool factor when like fucking Ted Cruz and those other jokers started wearing tech suits to.

59:24 Be like, Hey, look, not all of his schemes work.

59:28 That's true.

59:28 That's true. That's true. Yeah.

59:30 We don't know about the graveyard of, of failed schemes that he's got going on.

59:34 Yeah.

59:34 Yeah.

59:35 I'm sure there's for every, the, for every episode that we see, there had to have been like three to five threads that just completely went dry on them that they're like, yeah, we can't, this isn't going to go anywhere.

59:44 Yeah. It is. There are these like series of billboards that play into you can see everything that I remember driving to a recording, taking pictures of and being like, what the fuck is this? Is this like a Nathan Fielder scheme? The like founders, inventors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so weird that it did end up tying in.

1:00:04 And then you end up finding out in a very weird way. Again, check out, check it out if you've got three hours.

1:00:11 Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

1:00:13 Yeah.

1:00:14 Brandy Posey. Hey. Such a pleasure having you, as always.

1:00:16 Thank you.

1:00:17 It's good to be here.

1:00:18 Good to see you. Thank you.

1:00:22 Thank you. Thank you.

1:00:24 Thank you.

1:00:24 Oh, my God. Thank you.

1:00:27 Do what?

1:00:28 Brandy, where can people find you?

1:00:30 I am on the Instagram and the threads at Brandazzle. My record label, Burn This Record, is on Instagram. Instagram, and YouTube.

1:00:39 Subscribe on YouTube.

1:00:40 Subscribe on YouTube. Hey, we are also extremely close to monetizing our YouTube channel. Let's go. How many more do you need?

1:00:47 I need 500 hours. 500 hours.

1:00:48 So close.

1:00:49 Of content uploaded? No, no, no. Of just views.

1:00:51 Of people watching. 500 hours to watch.

1:00:54 Thing yeah yeah.

1:00:55 Which i know you guys can do that did you get to the.

1:00:57 One because i remember before you need a certain subscriber number to that's done okay.

1:01:01 I got the subscribers i'm way past that i just need i'm so close to the hours fire.

1:01:06 Up your laptop farm site.

1:01:07 Gang yeah if you guys can like make a playlist there's a ton of stuff on there just make a playlist play it through a few nights in a row yeah listen to some comedy there's great i have a podcast where i interview everybody that's on the that's on the label.

1:01:19 That's up there like yeah what's been a fun interview.

1:01:21 I just had Heather Shaw on. Do you guys know Heather Shaw? She's amazing. I just had Heather on. Her album is currently in a pre-sale right now. It comes out on October 30th. Man, great fucking time. I've known Heather for a decade plus at this point, so it was a good catch-up.

1:01:35 Where? Down in Philly?

1:01:36 From Fest in Gainesville. She's a Florida girl, so there's a punk rock festival I do every year. That's actually this weekend, and I met Heather there like 12 years ago or something.

1:01:47 Oh, cool.

1:01:47 We've been homies forever, so yeah.

1:01:49 There are pockets of Florida that sound like you're in Delco. Yeah. Or like Jersey Transplant.

1:01:56 Very, very much. Gainesville's got that energy for sure. But Good Cop, Rad Cop is extremely funny. It's a good duo out of the South that does like funny punk rock songs and stuff. But their album, like, yeah, a lot of great, a lot of great stuff on there. So check us out guys. Burnish Records on YouTube. It would mean a lot. I'm, So close, and I really, my goal for the year is to get that shit done.

1:02:16 We need that monetization.

1:02:18 Yeah, that would mean a lot.

1:02:19 It would mean a lot.

1:02:20 We can do it. Come on. Yeah, come on, Zeitgang.

1:02:23 Come on, Zeitgang.

1:02:23 Thank you. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

1:02:29 Yeah, I just read my friend Ryan Connor, very funny comic. He has a book that just came out called 12 Guys Walking into a Kitchen, because he is the second of 12 boys in his family.

1:02:42 What the fuck?

1:02:43 His parents, he has a biological brother. His mom got remarried. He has two older brothers from that marriage. Then they adopted three refugee boys, two from Vietnam, one from China. And then when all those kids were in their 20s, their parents said, we want to get a girl. And then they went to an adoption fair and they actually found four boys that were looking for something. So they adopted four more boys. So they have he has 12 he has 11 brothers he's the 12th one and it's like this amazing book just kind of about like the story of this incredibly cool diverse family and like how they have like come together over time and what he's learned from all of them and it's just like a really nice little comedy memoir that like Just feels good

1:03:26 to read.

1:03:26 Yeah.

1:03:26 Yeah.

1:03:27 So big shout out to that.

1:03:28 Need stuff like that.

1:03:29 Yeah, it's nice.

1:03:30 You know who else I like to hang out with? 12 guys. My man, JC. Hey! My man, JC. Yeah! Let's go! Let's go! Yeah, Jesus!

1:03:40 Three days, Jesus. Where you been? Yeah, where you been, doll?

1:03:44 Come out that cave, Jesus! Turn that water into wine? Gonna make the kickoff, Jesus.

1:03:51 Mary Magdalene. Get the water. Time to turn into wine.

1:03:54 Yeah, Mary Magdalene. Yeah. So many Marys. Before I tell you where I'm at, if you're in L.A.

1:04:01 Tonight, Thursday, October 22nd, at Video Tech, OK, in Highland Park, I'm actually going to be doing VHS court with Emily Heller, where you go up. We argue before the court, which, you know, one of them, you know, Zach Broussard is one of the hosts there where we argue just before the before the audience over two films. The winner, the film is played. So if you want to see a fun thing, yeah, I'll be doing some funny shit with Emily Heller. Do you know what your movie is?

1:04:31 No.

1:04:32 Oh, so you got to go up and do you get to get a little bit? You get assigned. It's like debate team shit. Yep.

1:04:39 Yep.

1:04:39 Yep. You just get it and you go defend it. Yeah.

1:04:42 It better be about Delco. Tell you that.

1:04:46 Amazing. Miles, where can people find you as their work? I don't even know where I'm at anymore. I think I'm in Delco. I think I'm in America. I don't know where I'm at. You can find me everywhere at miles of gray.

1:04:55 I'm talking about 90 day fiance on four 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Also continue to talk about soccer. the Premier League Champions League on Ain't It Footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. A work of media I like.

1:05:11 There's just, look, like I said, I got to play this.

1:05:15 This was really instructive for me trying to nail my Delco accent. This is from at Nicole Marie 0421. It says, wow, it is really a cold day today. Hashtag South Philly. And she's just giving an explainer. Like, wow is a really, it's a fundamental phrase.

1:05:37 Is it wow?

1:05:37 It's a way into the accent.

1:05:39 W-H-A-L. Wow. We say wow, but when you think of it as wow. Wow. Well, here. Here we go.

1:05:46 South Philly words and how we pronounce them.

1:05:48 Wow.

1:05:48 Wow.

1:05:49 Wow.

1:05:50 Look at the way you're moving.

1:05:53 Yeah.

1:05:54 Wow.

1:05:55 Is she serious right now?

1:05:56 The house looks really nice. Wow. Wow.

1:06:02 I love it. I love it. There's a subtlety to it. Again, my love of accents.

1:06:07 There's just something about it that it just tickles my brain. And my stolen Delco Valor continues.

1:06:14 We got to get through there.

1:06:16 I know, but we're going to have to do a show in Philly. You may never leave, man. I know.

1:06:19 You're going to love it.

1:06:20 We should do a show where a task takes place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:06:26 Well, you've got to go down to South Philly every year. They have the greased pole competition. Have you seen this? Where they put a provolone and a salami at the top of a pole. They grease the whole thing up.

1:06:35 Who'd get up there?

1:06:36 Yeah, it's teams of people that train all year to get the salami.

1:06:41 Get me in there. Get me in there.

1:06:43 It's amazing.

1:06:43 Man, wow. Wow. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky Jack OB, the number one. Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore O'Brien. Work at Media, I've been enjoying. There's this basketball league. The National Basketball Association.

1:07:02 Wow.

1:07:03 They have some of the best basketball players anywhere. Around. Yeah.

1:07:06 Wow.

1:07:07 And they've got this one guy who's been playing there for 24 seasons in a row named LeBron James. And I've been a fan of him since before it was cool. You know? When he was a child? Yeah, yeah. When he was eight, I guess. Oh, okay. Interesting, Jack. And he, this past season, started playing for the team that I follow in the National Basketball Association called the Philadelphia 76ers.

1:07:34 Sixers for short. Anyways, they just had their season opener with LeBron James on their team and they won in New York against the national champions. And this is probably as good as it's going to get because nobody's like hurt yet or anything. You guys keep riding this. I think we're going to go 82 and 0. Yep. And so based on this data set you got, look, At this rate, we are going to win 82 games.

1:08:03 Perfect season. I look forward to it. Honestly, Philly deserves this. I'm so excited. I'm so sorry for the cars that are going to be flipped.

1:08:11 I'm so sorry. I was just going to say, whenever they win a title, they're so cool about it. They're so normal and cool. But yeah, Sixers haven't done anything in a while. In a while.

1:08:26 Well, that's so exciting.

1:08:27 Yeah, it's very exciting.

1:08:29 I almost might watch basketball. I'm so excited for you.

1:08:32 It's great. It's very exciting. They also have Jalen Brown. Yeah. And things are exciting. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom of the description, you're going to find the footnotes. Footnotes. Dickhead. Footnotes, dickhead.

1:08:56 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also... like to link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Yeah. Yo, mom. Yeah. Is there a song you think people might enjoy? This is a cool one. This is from the artist Rachel Rose.

1:09:09 This is like one of those people, like a small independent artist that I just got served on Instagram. And I was like, oh, this is kind of high beat. The track is called Open Season.

1:09:16 Open Season.

1:09:17 And the drums, the sort of instrumentation reminds me of Fiona Apple's Sleep to Dream. So if, you know, that era of, you know, Tidal, that was the name of that album, right?

1:09:27 Yeah.

1:09:28 Fiona Apple era appeals to you. You might like this track by Rachel Rose called Open Season.

1:09:33 I remember.

1:09:33 Just being like a music nerd, when I first saw the clip, I commented on it. I'm like, these drums are very sleep to dream.

1:09:38 She's like, that's exactly what I was going for.

1:09:40 She said it?

1:09:41 She came back? She came back.

1:09:42 She's like, you noticed.

1:09:43 Thank you, you fucking dickhead. And I was like, why are you mad at me? Yeah, yeah. So open season by Rachel Rose. Check it out. It's a good Biden track.

1:09:50 Rachel Rose.

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