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The Daily Zeitgeist· Staffel 462· Folge 1

Trendy Minaj For Press Secretary? 10/26: Trump/Nicki Minaj, Brazilian Presidential Election, Vivek Ramaswami

Montag, 26. Oktober 2026 · 44 min

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In this edition of Trendy Minaj For Press Secretary?, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Trump and Nicki Minaj in Michigan, the Brazilian presidential election, Vivek still doubling down on his BS ahead of the midterms and much more!
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Give me the low down. So I saw this on, on everything app. You said you heard of Ethan, you know, Ethan Klein.

I saw it.

Yeah. I know who Ethan Klein is.

Okay.

And vaguely, um, I think I get him confused with like five other constant streamers.

Um, okay.

But he's an annoying racist, racist, uh, podcaster whose podcast is too damn long.

Oh, he's that one. Oh, he's that racist podcaster.

Most recently, he was in a huge feud with Hasan Piker over Ethan and his wife Hila's support for Israel.

His wife is Israeli.

What? I wouldn't call it a feud. He was fucking obsessed.

Well, yeah. I mean, whatever. You know what I mean?

It was constant talking about Hasan Piker and them going back and forth. And they used to have a show together. So anyway, this guy, over the weekend, his wife posted this thing. She goes, I'm devastated. My husband has been cheating on me for six months.

Wow.

Unbeknownst to me, I thought something was wrong, but he said it wasn't. And I just thought maybe I was, you know, doing the thing of like, I felt something, but then.

I pushed it aside, but something was wrong.

Come to find out now that we don't know, but everyone is now starting to say, oh, we suspect this 27 year old intern.

Of being the mistress.

The clips I've been seeing of them playing grab ass for the last six months have been absolutely insane.

There's no confirmation from them.

But if you look, people will be like, people were getting a vibe even before this is confirmed. At one point, she was telling the other people in the show, just so you know, Ethan said, I can come in whenever I want to.

I can make my own schedule. She's an intern. One of the producers is like, Ethan told you that? She's like, yeah, he told me privately.

And then he called Ethan on the stream and confirmed it. And he's like, Tamara said she can come in whenever.

He's like, yep. Yep. And she's like, see? This is so weird. Yeah. Yeah. No, definitely weird.

He dressed up as the cat in the hat and dressed his wife up as thing one. And this other girl is thing too.

Wow.

The side piece was thing too. Although if it's six months, we don't know if they were, that was when it had begun, but you could, you clearly, you clearly had eyes on something.

Well, it's also like, we don't know if it's six months. Cause yeah. Yeah.

That's all he admitted to.

All right, fine. You got me. It's been six months. Severe fuck away behavior. I feel bad for her.

I guess I shouldn't feel bad for an intern on that show, but I'm just saying, like, the internet has rushed to conclusions before based on what seemed like irrefutable circumstantial evidence.

I think the bad thing is... She could just be a creepy boss who, like, doesn't know how to interact with young women without just being like, yeah, yeah, yeah, what she does. Yeah, yeah.

I think just based on now, everyone just putting all this forensic, these moments together from streams when you look and you're like.

Bro, Jack, Hila stopped following Tamara on Instagram.

So many people on this show stopped following her. That was the other thing.

That is irrefutable evidence in 2026.

She dropped the note and then people looked at the follows and they go, damn, everyone who works on the show stopped following her. Hmm.

Okay. All right, I'm back on board. You're back in. All right.

But again, everybody on the show is trash. Pull me back in. There's not a single innocent person on that show.

Sure, sure.

There's also been like unofficial official people like YouTubers are like all the president's men right now. They're like, oh, I have an inside source telling me about this.

Sure.

That's the thing that makes me suspicious is when you have random people being like, I have sources that I can't reveal. And it's like, it's not Woodward and Bernstein. It's somebody on YouTube, you know? And so like that, that's when I get suspicious of group, uh, crime.

It's coffee Zilla and Phil DeFranco. And we are going to be making a movie about this mystery.

And Phil DeFranco look like, it looks like he's made by a cobbler. now. It's crazy.

Looks like he's made by a cobbler. It's a fucking terrible thing to say about someone.

Who's a cobbler. Look, if you guys are too scared to make fun of people's appearances, that's on you.

That's on me. I got no soul. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week-trend edition of your daily bike heist! Yes! Yes! It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Mr.

Miles Gray! Hey! Hey.

This is the episode where we tell you some.

Of the things that were trending over the weekend. We also let you know what is trending in our hearts on our own overrated, underrated.

We ask our guests every damn day what's overrated and underrated in their book. What about our book? Yeah, no one's asking us. Who's asking us? We are. I'm in the house. Miles, tell the people something you think is underrated at this point. Underrated? First up, Eating ice cream with a children's spoon. Okay.

Now, it forces you to take smaller bites, and therefore, I'm savoring every single bite because I can only get just a little bit. Because my kid left his spoon out.

It's an ice cream. I didn't want to do a dish. I'm like, fuck it, bro. This is a spoon. I'm eating it.

I had an amazing experience eating a carton of ice cream with a tiny spoon.

Tiny spoon ice cream. It just made it, it was like kind of like classy Dippin' Dots, almost. You're eating it like you're supposed to drink a glass of wine, kind of.

And also, I felt like it was like, because of the frequency of bites, I didn't have to eat as much ice cream as I normally do. Wow. Anyway.

What's that like? I don't know.

I'm still, because then I started sort of doing that thing where you like morally start doing the moral licensing in your head and you go, well. I mean, I probably barely ate any, so I might as well just.

If this is going to be the new.

Thing, then maybe I can eat the whole carton now because going forward, I'll only eat like a third of it at a time.

Yeah.

This is the new me.

I know how I went.

I can actually take out credit on my future, on this discovery that is going down with my diet. I'm going to consume more dairy and sugar than I do need. So.

Yeah, that's something I just sort of stumbled upon this weekend, which is also connected to a larger question that isn't underrated or overrated, but I wanted to ask you. Uh-oh. Because Her Majesty thinks that... Do you think Yoplait is a child's yogurt?

That's a great question. Damn, you took a breath, bro. Fuck. Nah, you took a breath. It's a yogurt that I ate as a child. Motherfucker. That we typically ate as children.

However, however, I don't know about all the offerings of Yoplait yogurt.

Strawberry yogurt.

I meant like low sugar you know high protein type thing the huge strawberry.

They use with the red the foil top baby yeah the yo playables are they still rocking with that same pack well i bought a i bought a look i'm going for value so i bought like an eight pack and they came in sort of like the regular rectangular cup So it, man, bro, this is fucking me up this morning. Give him the Geist child breakfast. He has like these like kids, uh, You know, like little yogurt pouches.

Sure.

And then Her Majesty was like, oh, I heard her saying you want some yogurt. I come out and he was eating a Yoplait.

And I was like, oh, shit. Oh, you like the spoon? Like you're doing the adult yogurt and stuff? That's some big boy stuff.

Because he occasionally will eat that, but he usually likes the pouch. And I was like, oh, how come you gave me the Yoplait? She's like, I couldn't find the kids ones. And they were like sort of buried in the back. And then I was like, but those are the kids ones. She goes, what do you mean? She's like, these are Yoplait. These are like kids yogurts. And I just went to the store and got them for me.

And I was like, this is not... Adults also drink Eat Yoplait for the record.

There are adults. Not all adults. I took an L on that one.

The top of the Yoplait, speaking of small spoons, the top of the Yoplait is small. It goes from a wide base to a smaller top. Like Blake Wexler.

You know what I'm saying?

Exactly. Exactly.

It's it's almost designed for a small baby spoon would be one way of looking at it um i think it's delicious all right we can move on now.

Um that's a good note on on the ice cream i will say i uh i have a tendency to gulp that shit down and like we have a built-in you know how like there's like Some refrigerators have a thing that's like, oh, you left.

The refrigerator open too long. It's going to go ding, ding. We have that built into us when we eat ice cream too much, which is an ice cream headache. And I still can't. I don't get ice cream headaches. Do you not get ice cream headaches?

No, I have to go to the thing where I go, oh shit, dude, I'm already halfway through this thing. And then I go, and then I start scraping. I go, am I at mathematically half? And I start whittling it down to what I think is the midpoint. And then if I go past that, I go, well, fuck it, man. As long as we leave a third for later. I can practice abstinence, but I can't practice temperance. is a way that. a professor at my old school used to say that like you, I can't, I can stop myself from eating ice cream, but if I eat ice cream, I'm going to house that shit. I do not have the ability to use a tiny little spoon and fucking Zamboni off a little layer off the top of the, you know, light OCB comes into it where I start

using math to sort of excuse it. Yeah.

Um, all right. Uh, wow. No ice cream headaches. I have to do it.

Because I remember as a kid, I was drinking Slurpees and they'd be like, brain freeze. I remember that commercial like, brain freeze. And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about. I just drank this whole thing.

To the dome.

I think there's some synapses that are disconnected or something from hockey injuries or something.

Or maybe it's just like my body knows that I need the extra preventative measure from just drinking icy things or eating ice cream too fast.

It's a defense mechanism.

Yeah.

I come from a ice cream scarfing people. And there you go. We, we need to stop.

Uh, my underrated is looking at your town, like a tourist. Um, my cousin and his wife were in town from Poland. and we kind of scrambled a weekend together, Googled things to do in Los Angeles this weekend, and did a handful of them, and they were really fun.

They were really fun. What'd you do?

Took a hike up to the Hollywood sign very early. I'd say the Hollywood sign is fairly underrated. It seems like it's going to be a tourist trap. It seems like it has all the same shit as Um, you know, Mount Rushmore where it's just like, whoa, thing on the side of a mountain. This is stupid and pointless. Um, but when you, there are like hikes that are right up around it that are really nice hikes. And for some reason it is just kind of cool to be so close to something and to see something so iconic at such a surreal scale.

I've never actually made the hike to go right up to it.

I've never gone all the way up, but just like being up near it for some reason, this might just be, you know, I'm built different. I'm built in such a way that I'm just really impressed by big Hollywood sign. I am just kind of like, wow, I feel like I'm in Hollywood. at the, uh, the end of North by Northwest, you know, like it's, we're.

We're right there.

Um, we did, we did a, uh, day of the dead celebration at the Hollywood forever cemetery, which I never would have, uh, thought to do, but like they, you know, they do, uh, altars on the graves of various people, um, you know, families put them together, uh, Yeah. And then, uh, David Lynch had one that was very cool. Uh, you know, I mean, you know, Paul Rubens had one on his, um, but yeah, just like a series of altars for the deceased who are buried there.

And, uh, it was, it was just a cool vibe.

Definitely the sort of thing that had I not been in tourist mode, I would not have caught whatsoever.

Yeah.

You'd have been like, oh, the Sixers are playing later. We can watch that in my living room.

Miles, believe me, that was my first instinct. I was like, he's going to want to watch an NBA game. He's going to want to watch an NBA game. Is your cousin, wait, who's Polish? His wife is Polish. They live in Warsaw. He's from Minnesota. So he, I was trying to catch a Timberwolves.

Game for him. Oh, yeah. Mellow and Ant? Yeah. They're, they're. They're a problem.

Do you, uh, when you've like lived abroad for extended periods of time, do you get like really into sports? I like, that's something that he and I were talking about that year.

Yeah. Yeah.

Like I got so into the NBA the one time that I was like living for multiple months in Europe. I was like obsessed, like just reading, just like consuming Bill Simmons columns. It was like when he had like his page two column, but like, I was like refreshing waiting for his next column to drop.

The big things for me is, especially cause I would spend a lot of time in Japan for like months on end as a kid.

Yeah.

Is the, uh, like one was cause usually be in the summer. So there wasn't basketball happening, which is the one thing I would have really been focused on.

So it manifested in weird ways.

Like I had to get every issue of like the source or double XL magazine.

Exactly.

And I would just ingest every single article in the source.

About every page.

Every page read the fucking advertisements just knew weird stuff about r & b songstress maya how she secretly she has a soft side but her dream man is a thug and it broke my heart because i was like i was in love with maya and i'm like i'm not a thug but i was like no i know i'm not a thug and i can't be with maya because she wants a thug that and then i would watch like weird whatever american show would be randomly playing on tv which is like Over the years, it would be 90210. So I got really into 90210 because I was like the one place I could hear English being spoken on TV. And then it was CSI Miami.

Oh, wow. Yeah.

When I was in Ireland for a semester and the Simpsons was on more than it is here.

Like it was on five times a day. Good people. Which was wonderful. My kind of people. Yeah. What's something you think is overrated? Loaded Oreos.

Okay.

You guys seen this? You guys seen this? Loaded Oreos.

I've heard of double. Even triple stuff Oreos. I didn't know what the fuck it was. I was, again, as I was buying.

Oreos with sour cream and cheddar cheese on top.

And bacon crumbles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. During my same shop where I bought Yoplait yogurt for adults, the guy's child also likes an Oreo here or there. And then I saw some weird different ones and they had one called Loaded and the cream in the middle was like cookies and cream middle.

I was like, oh, this is crazy. It's like, it's like self-referencing. Wait.

It has, it has like broken up cookie bits with the cream in the, in the cream part of the sandwich.

That's like. Isn't that crazy? Mindfuck. It's like feeding a hamburger to a cow.

Exactly, bro. It's like feeding an egg to a chicken. You don't do that unless you're sick or me.

And I got it. I thought it was loaded because it was like different. It, this shit was like a triple stack. Oh, they triple cream it? Ecstasy pill.

Bro, this thing was so thick. This is the thing I'm realizing with Oreo cream. It's, Like mayonnaise, like I fuck with it in the context that it's meant to be, but you go slightly over the normal amount and now it's like disgusting.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like I'm fine with mayonnaise on a sandwich like potato salad, but when something is like so mayonnaise-y and you know it's like, bro, this is so mayonnaise-y, you're like, fuck, what is this?

This cream, same thing. It was so thick.

I took a bite, and I could tell just from how much travel there was from my bite, from compressing.

The two sandwiches. I was like, eee.

Yeah, it's like when you jump off a high dive and halfway through, you're like, wait a second, I should be hitting the water.

Where's the water? It just keeps going. It keeps going. Yeah. I, like, dry heaved just from the bite.

Because I was like, ah, no, way too much.

It shoots into the back of your throat. Yeah, exactly. And I was like, I can't do this. I can't do this.

And I won't.

I ate the whole thing. I showed her. I can't do this. I can't do this. I will eat the whole thing. I will eat the whole thing for, you know, the experience.

I remember then I, I, I showed her majesty and she's like, don't, I was like, do you want to try this?

She's like, no, it's way too much fucking cream.

Yeah.

And I was like, I shouldn't, I didn't know what she's like, what did you think loaded meant?

And I was like, cause it was loaded with other, God damn it. God damn it. It's taking L's all over the place with these groceries. Well, yeah, because they do have, like, double stuff and triple stuff. Yeah, yeah. Extra stuff. I should have known. I should have known.

Well, yeah.

So is this just a rebranding of the same concept, it sounds like? I don't know. I think it's because the cream is different.

It's not just the straight-up cream because it's got bones in it.

I've talked before about how I think the ideal combination... The ideal balance of cookie to cream is you Big Mac the Oreo. You take the one side off of one of them. So you have just cookie and all the cream on that one.

Yes.

Stack that on top of a regular, unseparated Oreo so that you have basically three cookie, two cream. And for some reason, that balance really works for me. And also it allows you to eat more.

A lot of cookies in a quick period of time, which was something that I was very into during the pandemic. Yes, we call that the four-sixths compromise. That's exactly what we call that. All right. Uh, well, I, I will keep my eye. I mean, to be honest with you, if you want them, I'll bring them to the studio. You can, you know what? I'll bring them to the studio.

Today and you can, you can dry heave with the, or you might be like, this is actually perfect.

This is perfect. Perfect.

Yeah.

Um, I'll try and big Mac those and see if go ahead and go ahead. I mean, that might be too much. Um, what about you? Uh, something that I think is overrated.

Uh, speaking of the Simpsons is, uh, how, uh, recent the Simpsons movie was, was overrated by me. My kids watched it over the weekend. And at one point they said that the year in the movie was 2007. And I was like, what a weird decision by the Simpsons to place this movie in like eight years before it was actually made and then i looked it up and this movie was made 20 years ago this movie came out 20 years ago um and.

So you completely overrated oh that's you're saying you I'm so old. It was essentially like I was like, yeah, no, the Simpsons movie. Dude, you're Matthew McConaughey in Interstellar, dude. Exactly. That's what I felt like.

I felt like I was behind the bookshelf in our TV room.

It's 2015!

No!

Did they like it? I mean, they were big laughs. Big laughs. I'm not always there.

I'm not sitting down and taking it all in like I would a another movie, but you know, I'm like other where other places in the house and like just the rate of laughter and the, the size of the laughs that it was getting was a pretty, pretty impressive.

So, um, yeah, I mean it's, and they watch the show too. So here and there. Okay. Okay.

So for this, this was like a contained whole thing. Like they were seeing it all.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like when they're with their cousins, they mainline the Simpsons.

Isn't that when, uh, Flanders tells Rod or Todd when he goes, I wish that was my dad.

And then he goes, and I wish you didn't have the devil's curly hair. I did catch that one. That was one of the better jokes. Um, the devil's curly hair is so stupid. Uh, but yeah, I was, my son was like, why did that upset?

Because he like, Noticed that I started muttering about walking into the ocean with rocks in my pockets after I found out that the movie came out in 2007. And I was just, like, thinking about the equivalent movies when I was his age would be... Like I was, I was thinking like, that's like the Godfather, except no, the Godfather was released eight years before I was born. This movie was released 11 years before my youngest kid was born.

It's like, like paint your wagon or some other like old ass Western.

Paint your wagon. Paint your wagon came out in 1969. Like that's. That's what was 11 years old when I was born.

So like they're watching this thing that I think of as like, yeah, it's just, you know, the Simpsons. This is the pop culture that we all exist in the context of. And to them, it is essentially the same as me watching the, paint your wagon yeah exactly you know paint your but i will say kudos to the simpsons for having enough jokes that stood the test of time that it it was not like uh watching paint your wagon and in fact uh the the jokes are still landing with eight and ten year olds.

Oh for me wow 73 would have been the exorcist yeah and the sting and serpico pretty.

Good year Not bad. Yeah.

Although these are all movies that as a kid, I'm like, I'm never watching these. And then I went to college and I was like.

Fucking Serpico, fucking badass shit, dude. Serpico's so tough, dude.

The guy's so fucked up and like not able to deal with his problems, but.

He's got a gun. So he takes it out on like people.

Yeah.

He's completely destroyed his personal relationships, but oh man.

That's what's actually good about him. Look at his style, bro. Serpico, look at that fucking swag, bro. Fucking bandana, dawg. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. All right. What do we got from over the weekend? Some big news stories, some that are just continuing. Trump will not stop talking about asses.

His cognitive decline. Will not give it up.

Took an unexpected term recently when he wouldn't shut the fuck up about, uh, John Husted's ass, um, with the, uh, caveat, I don't do this with men very often.

That's the direct quote. Um, but yeah, during a rally for Mike Rogers in Michigan, uh.

He was trying to explain the Husted situation, arguing that he's never done that with a man before. And then he shouted out Nicki Minaj, who was at the rally and her, he said, she has, one hell of a beautiful ass, which feels, which is weird. Like, obviously that's just like weird. Like don't do that. But also weird that like he can't total. Now he's feeling insecure.

Yeah.

He's feeling insecure about it, but he has no brakes. So he can't just like stop talking about asses. And instead, um, this is where we're at. It's just one hell of a beautiful ass.

One hell of a beautiful ass. Stand up, Nick. I think then he said stand up, but it's just stand up, Nicky. Yeah, which is not great.

I mean, this is what you get for hanging around these people, Nicky. This is what happens when you start pledging allegiance to the type of guys who only hang out with the white girls from the Baby Got Back video.

You know? You know what? And stop me if you've heard this before, but you've got one hell of a beautiful ass, Nicky. Yeah.

He, I mean, that whole rally was wild. It was had a, I mean, again, this was in Michigan. So it's all Mike Rogers versus Abdul El-Sayed. And he just, the Islamophobia, he just broke the fucking knob off that thing.

Just cranked it up.

Um, you know, desperate times, it turns out, which is funny because Mike Rogers is also like in this weird dance of trying to set distance himself from Trump, but also like needs him. It's, Look, yeah, you love to see it for these craven fuckers.

Yeah, it's a tough position. It's a tough position. A lot of the worst people are in tough positions, and you do hate to see it.

You do, or you love to see it. I don't know.

Wait a second.

I do. Why do I feel.

Oh, because they're the worst fucking people. Our writer, JM, was pointing out that this could actually be... So, what, one theory beyond cognitive decline for why Trump keeps talking about asses?

Could this be a.

Disney greenlighting Frozen-esque strategy of 4D chess. So you know the theory behind Disney greenlighting Frozen?

No.

That they made a movie called Frozen so that Disney Frozen would stop directing people to conspiracy theories about Walt Disney's head being frozen?

No. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I remember this being mentioned. Okay, sure, sure, sure.

So that if you, yeah, Disney Frozen meant you got Elsa decaying, not cryo dome.

Not cryo dome.

So this theory is that prior to this, when you Google Donald Trump ask, you got a BuzzFeed article that said this weird angle of Donald Trump's butt has everyone talking because, you know, he has a very strange butt that is definitely, you know, encased in diapers and So maybe this is just him trying to flood the zone with Donald Trump, but on his own diaper.

Um, the other thing too, that people were talking about was Steven Chung, the in-house troll for the white house. Uh, he was like, you know, mentioning, he's like, maybe she could be the next, uh, press secretary. And people were like, I got so many texts from friends who like that I used to work with and like, right. Like rap radio who know, like I talk about politics all the time.

They're like, Hey, please don't tell me Nikki's actually going to be working for the white house. I'm like, guys, for how fucking racist this administration is. Do you think for a moment they would have like a black woman up at that podium representing this administration that would, first of all, just from a white supremacy angle? No.

That's not going to happen.

Also, I know we could picture everything, but I truly can't even picture what happens when someone... Nicki Minaj can't even handle when someone on Twitter points out that her husband has all kinds of fucking charges against him. I can't imagine what would happen if someone brought anything up where she would have to get defensive at a podium.

So, Stephen Chung was being cheeky. Okay, Nicki Minaj will not be the next press secretary. I mean, whatever. If it did.

I have to feel like some parts of reality are still going to hold, like at least the administration's racism.

But they also, in turn, in the same way that Donald Trump is now talking about Nicki Minaj's ass to cover up the fact that he was talking about.

Husted's ass.

Maybe they're covering up their racism by, I mean, we know exactly that that is definitively what they're doing with Nicki Minaj.

So they just keep telling me like, boss, you got to talk about a woman's ass.

Everyone keeps talking about, you keep talking about guys asses. Okay. We're losing the Groypers. Right. Well, we already lost them actually.

Fuck.

Um, another big news story, something new that happened is that Brazil had their election over the weekend. Um, And Flavio Bolsonaro, who looks like the Will Smith movie Gemini Man. Like, he just is like a straight up younger version of his dad. I truly thought it was just his dad.

I was like, damn.

That consuming your own poop thing that Bolsonaro does is working for him.

Wait, was he doing, like, for a fecal implant or something? I think so. He keeps having, like, weird... Wait, he was eating his own shit? He keeps having weird, like, things with poop and, you know... I feel like there was some... I'll have to look it up. There was something with Bolsonaro consuming his own poop or, like, getting.

Poop every other day to protect the environment was something he said in 2019.

Oh, okay. Try and fucking stop me, bro. Every other fucking day? No, not going to happen. Something's wrong with me if I'm that irregular.

I just remember there was like a picture of him in a hospital with like a tube going up to his nose that looked like it was brown.

Maybe that was.

maybe that was AI. But anyways, there's weird stuff with Bolsonaro. His son got his ass whooped.

Yeah, I mean, also, I gotta say, like, to your point about Flavio looking just like Jair, I wonder if they, like, those kids even have a mom, or just Jair Bolsonaro goes into the fucking Amazon and slowly just, like, goes through a fission process, like....

That could be it. That's almost definitely what's happening. Yeah, and this comes out, like, primordial ooze, and then there he is. I will call you Flavio. Yeah, so... It was a big, big election.

A lot of people were holding their breath, mostly because everything I was reading in the build-up were from environmentalists saying, like, this is going to be, like, the death of the Amazon rainforest with Bolsonaro's, like, ecocidal policies.

And him being like, it's all about growth, man. If you want to fucking... If deforestation is what it's.

Going to take and cutting down the earth's lungs of the Amazon rainforest, then that's what.

We got to do. Yeah, you got to get rid of those. Big bullet dodge there.

But Lula da Silva won a historic fourth term as Brazilian president.

And like in the first election that like meant that they had to do this runoff, he had lost in the overall vote. So that was people were very worried. Trump and his administration were working overtime trying to get Bolsonaro's clone into the office because Bolsonaro is currently on house arrest. This is like people who pay attention to democracy have said that this is basically.

What the U.S. should have done.

Arrest your despotic fuckwits.

Fuckwad former president tried to overthrow.

The election yeah tried to overthrow the results of the election um they put him in jail they passed a law saying he couldn't run for president anymore Um, and so he had to put in his fail son, which like that would have been great if that's what we were dealing with in 2024. I mean, maybe now we might still have Joe Biden in there, but, um, you know, if it was Donald Trump jr, uh, running for president, I don't think he, he's not quite a clone of his, of his father. He looks, he looks like you could.

Yeah, exactly.

It's like multiplicity, you know, like once you do too many copies towards the end there, they kind of just get a little wacky. But again, predictably, from someone who is being backed by the American right wing, Flavio Bolsonaro is not.

Accepting the results. Oh, no. But he doesn't have much of a strong argument.

Yeah. No.

So this is what he said. This is from the New Republic.

Bolsonaro said that the results of the runoff election should be annulled because of a Brazilian Supreme Court ruling extending voting by two hours. However, both Lula and Bolsonaro's parties had called for that extension, making his point moot.

So, yeah. And even though like, yes, just like with the Trump family.

There are Supreme Court justices there in Brazil that have been put in there by the Bolsonaros.

They were still like, yeah, no, man, it's you got nothing here.

You got nothing here because it's sort of the same thing to early the early vote count favored Bolsonaro. And then as the day wore on, it was just like, what the heck? It should be if I'm winning the second I see one result in the beginning of counting, that's all it should be.

I was winning with like 80% of the votes You were up 5 votes That was after 10 votes had been.

Counted I think it's just not fair It's not fair dude I think horse racing should work Just the second someone's in first place Call the race.

That's right We'll do that Let's take a quick break We'll be right back And we're back.

We're back.

And, uh, all right.

So the Vivek Ramaswamy story has, uh, we, we talked last week about how they really stepped in it by doing an attack ad featuring Amy Acton's terrible mother, um, who had sided with her, uh, abusive father. like when she was a child. And so the, the ad is her being like, Amy's a liar. She, and it's like, no, this is like a, kind of open and shut case of like, you, you are the worst parent in the history of the world. And what you're doing is using somebody's sexual, like history of sexual abuse, like as a way to attack them.

Yeah.

Well, cause I think that people, that when they put this ad together, they're like, we can get Amy Acton's mother to say she's a piece of shit.

Yeah.

In this race. Great.

Without understanding the reason, like truly for people who know they're like, yeah, of course they're estranged because this woman sided with Amy Acton's abuser and she hasn't seen her since she was a child.

So this isn't much of a mom.

This is a narcissistic person who lost custody of their child. And you somehow gave them like a couple bucks to say something terrible about their own kid.

Yeah.

The Cleveland plane dealer, uh, never endorses candidates and have broken their policy of never endorsing candidates, uh, to endorse her saying a candidate who uses child sexual abuse as a weapon against the person who endured it has crossed a line that Ohioans should defend whatever their party.

So that's, that's kind of where, where people are on this one.

And yet Vivek and Trump are like choosing to double down on it. Like not only, so he's continuing to like run the ads and, And then Donald Trump is on the campaign trail saying, you know, Vivek asked me what to do. And I said, you got to ride with it, which is.

And then he accused her of lying in this like really weird roundabout ways. Like we ran an ad about lying. It had nothing to do with childhood abuse.

Wow.

And you're like, so then what's her basis for knowing that? Yeah. Yeah.

Of course, you'd think that someone who's raising someone would, for many years, would say, this person is a liar. You would hold that against, like, the evidence of, like, oh, okay, so you've seen them from childhood all the way to their adulthood.

Except they've been estranged since she was a child.

Yeah, and you not having custody of them. Kind of different there, Vivek, but.

Um, and it doesn't, his argument does not seem to be, uh, you know, succeeding with like their Ohio venues who were scheduled to host Republican campaign events. So these are not like, uh, you know, woke coffee shops in like urban areas. These are places that were planning on hosting a Republican campaign event and have pulled out because of public backlash.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, well, you can try.

I mean, they're trying everything, uh, cause now it's, it's the final stretch.

They got a week. Um, and yeah, the old.

Dog ale house and brewery in Delaware, Ohio canceled the old dog, man.

Also, I love the Cleveland plane dealer plane. That's such a good fucking.

Oh yeah.

I hope like they're there.

They're actually like, they live up to the name, like in that real colloquial sense.

Like, We're giving you the plain deal, man. We're giving you the plain deal here. That's what I do. I deal in plain.

But yeah, right now it looks like, I mean, the polls are tight. The polls are tight still. So we'll see if that terribly, terribly fucked up ad will help Acton. But it seems like it's certainly not hurting Acton right now.

What are the Democrats saying in the run up? Because it does seem like there's I'm seeing like all these 90 percent chance of retaining or taking house control and like 60 percent of the set for the Senate. And I, you know, there are definitely things that I'd love to see the Democrats start saying and like, you know, prove that when Democrats love to be like, we're lit and we're listening.

Yeah, I mean, they.

They're listening to their consultants a lot, it still seems like, where they're like, God, get a load of these freaks, huh? It's still sort of like the meat of it. Although you do have plenty of candidates who, because they are a little bit more connected to reality, are speaking about affordability and these other things. But on a larger level, we're seeing at a national level for the people in Congress that are in office, they're making their own case about, okay, well, You know, if we take power, we're going to show Trump like we can slow down all his investigations and his other fascist harassment projects, like trying to strip Ilhan Omar of citizenship with all this other bullshit by using

our budgetary powers to defund those expeditions.

And I'm like, listen to, yeah.

Pardon me.

Like, yeah. I mean, I know like on paper you can do that, but like on paper, he had to go to you to start a fucking war and he just did that anyway.

And we're still here.

Right.

So I'm, I don't like he's, he'll always just move money around. Um, but okay. I understand. I, I appreciate the sentiment.

Um, and the other thing that I think they're, they've read that just popped up this Monday morning was talking about reopening, uh, an Epstein sort of investigation.

This is in Bloomberg.

It said, President Donald Trump, it said, quote, Democrats are preparing to launch congressional investigations into the administration's handling of files related to the late disgraced sex offender if they regain power. They say the administration botched the release of documents. Botched is a very kind word. And are using the issue to hammer Trump and GOP lawmakers in key races.

Really put their foot in their mouth. It's going to be one of our top priorities. Yeah, like.

They were lying to protect all of these fucking predators, is what they did.

He's on wax, saying a lot of my friends would be very unhappy. Like, that's a thing he said.

Congressman Robert Garcia said it's going to be a top priority. He said, quote, the country wants disclosure. They want release of the files. They want justice for the survivors. I think this is kind of a double-edged sword, right? Because it's there is an appetite obviously from people to be like, what the fuck are you guys doing? You have fucking papers right there that say this fucking guy did this to this person.

Right.

And, do you want to enforce some laws here? And so I know that they're definitely tapping into something that had huge bipartisan support, but when 2028 rolls around, people aren't going to be looking for it. They're not going to be looking for the candidate who's like, who's going to get Epstein. That could be part of your offering, like in making your case. But I feel at that point too, people are really going to be asking who is going to be advocating for the 95% of the country that is who needs some kind of assistance, who needs laws to be changed, who needs inequality to be reckoned with, who needs quote unquote inflation or corporate greed to be fucking regulated.

So can they do both?

I maybe I'm, but I guess the one benefit, to actually making this an issue is like politically, you're going to make the GOP either waste energy trying to defend this shit, which is not a good look at all.

Right.

Or they will abandon Trump to be like, yeah, I mean, we knew it was bad the whole time. I guess if we got to do that, we got to do that. I just, I don't think that's going to happen. So I'd imagine they think that by doing this, they are going to force more Republicans to be like, and this guy.

Voted to fucking not release the files. And this guy said this about it.

I honestly think it's weird that they haven't like done more with, I mean, I've said this before on the show that like, it just feels like he is so weird and off. balance when he's talking about it and like out of touch with what people want and expect that, like just making him talk about it and get distracted by it and focus on it is really like, like seems to work in their, in their interest. Obviously it can't be the proactive like platform for, for the future of the democratic party, but being willing to like see what people care about and then, you know, just deal with that in kind of an honest, uh, aggressive way.

Like does make sense to me.

Yeah.

The thing I'm worried about is like a fundamental misread where they go, Oh, people love the Epstein files and just think of it as the Epstein files rather than people are sick and tired of abuses by the elite.

Yes.

And when is someone going to curb those abuses across the board?

Not just in this one instance.

Of, of sexual predation, but, but also financial predation and greed and these other things that are also happening, that the oligarchs, elite class of people, are perpetrating against working people.

Seems like a winning message. It's all of that.

It can't just be like, Epstein files gets a lot of buzz and completely miss what the fucking engine behind that interest is.

That seems like a very... Simple and straightforward message.

For a candidate in twenty twenty eight that I can't. I mean, I don't know who that's going to be who's saying that, but they do.

I got out.

Got out around 2011, 2012, man.

So you're going to have to find somebody else.

Would have loved to help you on this campaign, Gavin Newsom. Would have loved to help you. Would have loved to.

All right.

Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday, October 26th. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get your vaccines while you still can. Get your flu shots. nasty out there. Don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to y'all tomorrow.

Bye. The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Law. Co-produced by Victor Wright. Co-written by J.M.

McNabb. And edited and engineered by Brian Jeffries.

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